Dana White's Obsession With Jon Jones

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[@grixiscontrol]

your video name is wrong, you wrote Why but should write Dana white Delusional ? No he is not becouse he is right Jones pfp 1 anyway ) but islam beating strikers and opponents from lower division on short notice i dont see dangerous opposition

[@TyLord3]

Better help is garbage, unsub

[@redjimizakaria]

why nobody talk about Jon steroids ?! in other sports you will be striped of all your titles and banned for life

[@RaekorEvolved]

They destroyed Nick Diaz's fight career with a 5-year suspension over smoking grass, But Jon Steroids story, oh that's only a "Pictogram"

[@MoralesCorner]

He was banned for it already. Stop the whining, it's getting boring. People give him a pass for that because we believe most guys are on something and the doping control is not really trusted in this sport

[@domson4158]

they all do stereoids

[@martinszn]

Islam popped as well why didn't you mention that?

[@RaekorEvolved]

​@@martinszn the substances islam was "popped" for, has been added to the list of banned substances only three months before Makhachev tested positive for it, even USADA stated that he has "not intentionally violated any rules" and was later cleared of all wrongdoing by USADA. so you cant really compere that, to jon jones circus, jon jones was handed 15 month suspension when he got popped. jon jones has a story where he spent 8 hours under the cage hiding from USADA Testers coming to Jackson gym he trains at, when they asked around where he is at, the coaches lied and said he was not there, knowing hes under the cage, they waited until the Gym closed, then later on USADA Found out that he was hiding under the cage and they tried to get a warrant to test out of he pissed under the cage in that 8 hour, From that time USADA were on jon jones. and if you want to go outside the Sport and mention how he hit another car with a pregnant women inside, and he saw her pregnant, instead of helping her, he ran away, on top of all that he had drugs in the car which police found, sorry but its hard to compere those two.

[@devenp.5508]

Does jones not realize beating Stipe at this point is going to have the same impact as when Yair beat bj penn or Connor and cowboy. This clown needs to stop ducking Tom.

[@iguessso1790]

They literally fed Cowboy to Conor, that was disgusting imo

[@timurjack8773]

P4P is based on current activity and current wins, more than the half the people that Jones beat are either retired or went to lower level competition outside of UFC. DC is retired, Rampage is retired, Lyoto is retired, Glover is retired, Gustafson is retired, Sonnen is retired, Belfort is retired. As for the ones who are not retired; OSP and Santos are not even ranked in top 15, Jones arguably lose to Reyes and Reyes is not even ranked in top 10 and was on a long losing streak, Anthony Smith lose to lower level fighters as well, and is not in top 10. Cirly Gane was not even the champion when he fought Jones, Jones won the vacant Heavyweight belt after Ngannou the lineal champ left, and Gane is arguably not even top 3 heavyweight considering Gane never fought Aspinall, Pavlovich, Blaydes or Stipe. Jones's best p4p win is years before vs DC (DC has 72' reach, Makhachev has 70', Volk has 71', Jones with 84' reach has bigger size advantage vs DC) when DC was no.14 ranked in p4p list. Second DC fight is No Contest since Jones cheated by using steroids. Makhachev competes in most stacked division, and beat the p4p greats such as Oliveira, Volk, Poirier, and also beat Arman before and will have to rematch him. Even someone like Bobby Green or Drew Dober is arguably a better win than Cirly Gane in terms of p4p. Another thing is other than Jones is proven to be a steroid cheater and he never got that 50 ufc clean tests jacket (Makhachev got that 50 clean ufc tests jacket), Jones never fought with home field disadvantage, Jones always fought in USA with home field advantage while people complain when Russian Makhachev fight in Abu Dhabi, Makhachev goes to fight on Australia or USA and fight with home field disadvantages.

[@iguessso1790]

Thank you for this comment, you get it!!! You put into words what i was too lazy to do

[@Harinjo916]

Facts, everything you've written is a fact also Jones biggest rivalry was against DC who he towers, Jon is bigger than DC for 18cm like that's huge, he also fought him in LHW while DC is a HW. Both times cheating with steroids/eye pokes and what not. Meanwhile Islam is fighting the most competetive division out there, while Jon is ducking and hiding under the octagon vs Asspinal😂

[@grapefruitsimmons]

4:56 techinically hes never lost. But everyone knows Reyes won rd 1,2,3 and theres no rule written anywhere that says the "championship rounds" are valued higher. So due to incompetent, corrupt judges, yes technically hes never lost.

[@fladagreat]

The Gustafson win is up for debate too imo.

[@thememeconnoisseur4088]

​@@fladagreatUnlike the Reyes fight, that fight with Gus was a clear 48/47 for Jones

[@ulyre6367]

@@thememeconnoisseur4088 its very debatable i see it as more for gustaffson than for jones

[@fladagreat]

@@thememeconnoisseur4088 it's not clear, and neither is the Santos win. Edit: literally just look at the stats The amount of strikes are super close but Gustafson obviously landed more head and body strikes and the control time is negligible

[@thememeconnoisseur4088]

@@ulyre6367 Go look at mmadecisions. It's an overwhelming concensus that Jones won against Gus

[@franlovelsimic8421]

Dana attempted to do damage control. Jon is stalling a division (again), wants to continue fighting older, out of prime fighters and those homosexual allegations certainly don't help in a community as conservative and hyper masculine like the casual MMA one. Dana is talking out of his ass and Islam is absolutely P4P #1 right now.

[@yzwme586]

Islam is flavor of the month right now, next it will be Pereira, then Izzy, then x, x . It changes after every big fight. The true P4P is Jon Jones, Dana is correct.

[@viego29]

​@@yzwme586Jon Jones is literally the most popular fighter atm, what are you talking about.

[@plokijuh5830]

How dumb do you have to be to believe those gay allegations?

[@kainkabil6393]

@@viego29 except he is not. i dont like him but Connor is the most popular especially since ufc 303 not happening. plus this is not a popularity contest, this is not wwe. it is about fighters that fight and be the best as p4p category. with your logic Elon Musk should be the goat

[@viego29]

@@kainkabil6393 bruh let's be honest Connor is retired, Jon is the biggest ppv draw the UFC has at the moment

[@mushroommummy]

Not better help 😭 solid video tho

[@grapefruitsimmons]

BetterScam lol

[@garyparietti5124]

Understanding p4p is simple.. I don’t understand why everyone’s soo dumb.. p4p number 1 means.. you take every single fighter.. hypothetically give them all the exact same body.. same height same reach same everything and made it all about skill.. put all the ((current)) fighters against each other.. who wins.. that’s without a doubt Islam… you shrink Jon jones down to 155.. Islam would obliterate him

[@viego29]

Whats with the Jon Jones casuals here, they dont even know what P4P means😂

[@BuenoMcgurski]

Dana has to say Jones is the best, since Francis left he’s been trying to convince everyone that he never existed.

[@Harinjo916]

Jon Jones ducking any hard fight, his biggest rival is DC who is shorter then him for 18cm lmao

[@Woobieeee]

Why do people think champions that defend their title 3-4 times are somehow the GOAT or P4P? Champions out there with 10+ defenses over a 5-6+ year time. Its embarrassing to entertain some of this nonsense.

[@Thot-StompaSigma]

This is the pfp list not a goat list and you don’t understand what “pound for pound” means, Islams weightclass has 10 times the skill that light heavyweight and heavyweight has.

[@BenRangel]

I think Jon is GOAT but to me the P4P list is a lot more current. Jon’s last LHW fight should’ve been a loss, and besides that he’s got one win in 4 years - so I’m not less confident in Jon’s dominance at the moment than Islam’s

[@amirfam5219]

All these Talks would be irrelavant after Stipe knocks Jones out.

[@iguessso1790]

I will be so happy and laugh when that happens!! But we all know it won't, unfortunately. I am 95% sure Jon is going to win eventho I don't want him to win

[@plokijuh5830]

CM Punk is clearly to P4P Goat, put respect on his name

[@jameslancefield9810]

He's only saying its Jones because of Francis. Frankly, Jones is disqualified from P4P rankings for being a steroid cheat, in my opinion.

[@bertyz2507]

Is because what Dana means is when you put Islam and Jon Jones in the same room Jon Jones is still going to win. So basically for Dana size matters 😂

[@GoForItAlways]

That’s not p4p but it is what it is

[@ricardorodrigues4726]

So? If you put Tom and Jones in the same room, Tom is gonna win and if you put Francis and Jones in the same room, Francis will kill him. That is why Jones ran, sorry, I meant bulked up for 3 years and lands in heavyweight as soon as Francis leaves, isn't that adorable? xD and then has the audacity to claim that Francis left because of him xDDD 3 YEARS, 3 YEARS. And now he is trying to come up with every excuse under the sun to avoid Tom a guy, that unlike Jones, cleaned the division. Also, believing Jones has to be some sort of IQ impairment, I mean, the guy is a drug cheat and a pathological liar, Tom and Francis never lied like that so I believe them over Jones ofc, I mean... Not gonna believe Dana or Jones, 2 known liars.

[@sauromatae9728]

Jon Jones doesn't even deserve to be in any sports

[@405bench4]

Dana is a business man. Every word that comes out of his mouth is to advance the interests of the UFC. Why should we expect anything else?

[@saadalikhan3031]

The mma community cant make Its mind up? What are you talking about? Its Dana and Bisping vs the rest of the internet.

[@m4rshy459]

Wait... Jones used steroids and refuses to fight Aspinall.

[@David-nf4nj]

Jon Jones is the #1, Ariel Halwani is a sausoge.

[@HugoHeinze-be8ef]

I think Jones's career is so hard to judge objectively because it took place over a transitional period in the sport. He did beat legends as a young champion but did so while having physical advantages over the competition changing the landscape of the division from there on

[@bhumihar-fy7wt]

so why is not fighting the interim champ and fighting a fighter whose age is 42 year and who last fought 4yr ago and knocked out in that fight why if he is the best he is not the best ever he has done evrything which is bad for a fighter legacy he used steroid not one time several time and he fought middleweights his whole life but when he got to fight guys of his same reach and length he struggles every single time.with gus 1st fight he almost lost and many prople still think he lost .In 2nd fight he was on roid ufc changed the whole venue for him so that another comission allow him fight on being roid ,reyes beats him ,he got to split with santos ,he goes to the decision with anthony smith 😂really ?he is not the goat and he knows that aspinall will smokes him 10 out of 10 times

[@timurjack8773]

15:30 Dana comparing Ali to Jones doesn't make any sense as well, Ali fought one of the greatest of all time Joe Frazier when he returned from 3 years inactivity, and before that Ali fought Bonavena and Quarry, and won those 2 fight before losing a decision vs the great Joe Frazier, while Jones did not fight one of the greats, Jones didn't even fight a champion, just fought a contender Cirly Gane and everyone knew Gane had problems on the grounds and Jones took Gane down and submitted him on the ground, we really didn't see Jones vs a great Heavyweight champion who is good everywhere, even Tom Aspinall fight is interesting for that, Aspinall is good on ground and also a good striker.

[@yasin-ali]

I believe that it is the style and violence factor of Jon Jones wins that make him the pound-for-pound best in the minds of most. The dismantling of Shogun. The murder of Machida. And the resumé. He destroyed all of the world champions. I love Islam, but he is not there yet. He hasn't done enough yet to take the title from Jon Bones Jones.

[@thememeconnoisseur4088]

You're confusing goat with P4p. Islam is the clear P4P number 1, and anyone who says otherwise doesn't understand what P4P even is

[@yasin-ali]

@@thememeconnoisseur4088 nah, you’re confused and stupid

[@yzwme586]

Dana is right, it is Jon Jones.. I hate this #1 P4P stuff that keeps changing multiple times a year after every fight with a big name fighter. It's like flavor of the month type shit.

[@Jbull420]

That's what p4p is genius, you and Dana are talking about GOAT

[@yzwme586]

@@Jbull420 Jon Jones is the best fighter right now, genius. Jon would kill Islam in a elevator 1v1 and you know it

[@viego29]

What is with this retarded argument😂​@@yzwme586

[@jummar9550]

​@@yzwme586 How is he the best right now when he last fought 1year ago?

[@Jbull420]

@yzwme586 Jon jones at the same weight would lose to islam or khabib p4p means if everyone was at the same weight

[@LecksMoney]

He’s not delusional… he’s a businessman. We all know this. Dana has spun his own narratives for years, he knows we don’t care about jones vs stipe but he wants us to feel lucky to watch the ‘P4P greatest’ regardless of the opponent. With that being said it’s very close between Islam and jones, let’s not forget how volk basically won their first fight

[@bananapepperben]

they should fill the jon jones vs stipe miocic card with other +36 year old geriatric fighters

[@thekinghash]

15:28 LOL that picture is ridiculous

[@getwaxedgaming9032]

Damn dude, great video. I almost subscribed but ads every 2 minutes plus ads imbedded in the video? I think the channel will grow much faster with less ads. I get we’re all trying to make it but more subscribers equals more views which equals more money. Just my two cents.

[@HASHBANNANA]

If your going off who is more active its Islam no doubt , but p4p means who is the best non retired fighter on the planet , thats Jon Jones

[@ashh_grey]

ChatGPT Answer : Based on recent performances and current rankings, both fighters have strong cases for being the P4P number one. However, given the latest updates and active competition, Islam Makhachev might have a slight edge due to his recent high-profile victories and consistent activity compared to Jon Jones, who, despite his recent success, has had periods of inactivity

[@saljewsteinbergowitz]

"recent success" when?

[@VocesdeFábula]

Dana white should be Delusional. But why nobody is talking about Jon Steriods

[@Allen204]

Dana doesn't think john is p4p he's just saying that to add value to John as a fighter. Everyone knows john did steroids I'm surprised no one in the podcast mentioned it.

[@TokyoAlex]

If you could shrink Jon Jones down to the lower weight classes, his heights would be the following. middleweight 6' 1.3" welterweight 5' 11.3" lightweight 5' 9.1" featherweight 5' 7.6" bantamweight 5' 6.0" flyweight 5' 4.3"

[@Matador824]

Dana White is a casual lmao

[@saljewsteinbergowitz]

Bisping be like "jones is still active, he's fought once in 4 years"

[@sahithgedela4329]

P4P is who's currently the best so idk how anyone can say jones is over islam when islam is in his prime and jones is on his way out

[@yopala]

Why are you spending 16 minutes explaining something 30 seconds would suffice

[@JoeFamalette]

Another great video

[@CliftonPolchies]

Don't hate just because you're number one man is not number one pound for pound

[@LordKeram]

Well first of all Dana just always does the same shit he only cares about money that's it. For him the fighter that is going to fight soon on a card he wants you to buy is the best. If you asked him before Islam's fight he would tell you this is the best guy against the number 2 guy. If you ask him after, he will tell you someone else because Islam will be out for the next 3 months and by that time people will have forgotten what he said. After getting all that out of the way. He really fucked up saying that shit with 3 years layoff and not even Ali did that. Ali literally was denied 3 years in the prime of his carrier. You could say Ali was still young so it doesn't count. Sure. What about fucking George Foreman then? He literally retired at 28, then came back 10 years later. LITERALLY 10 YEARS LATER! And went on to fight and beat some of the best boxers in the world only losing to 3 hall of famers, before finally retiring at the ripe old age of 48. Those are just the examples I could think of the top of my head.

[@PowuhToSeven]

Pound for pound Goku beats Superman. There i said it

[@MrZiggens3]

Khabib’s streak bravely set an example for his fellow citizens of Diarrheastan to aspire to follow! 13 straight times he came out on top… before father time caught up with him and told him he had to stop inserting himself in farm animals.

[@indokenmore]

Pfft. I’m not even going to watch this for such a stupid click-bate title. You should have put: “why my opinion doesn’t matter because I’m nobody”, and I’d probably have actually watched.

[@robindodd1969]

Y’all forget he’s a fight PROMOTER lmao

[@derekblackthorne]

*Jon ducked Francis who was the real champ, and not he's ducking Tom who is the real champ. Jon's not the GOAT. Jon's a DUCK.*

[@staraptorflock3661]

Dana is right

[@Electronicsflippa]

Islam is the best right now. Jon Jones was the best when he was fighting twice a year and is a strong candidate for greatest of all time. Currently he isn't the best. If he beats Stipe then Aspinall then theres no argument.

[@honigdachs.]

Eh, you bunch of flavor of the month fans. I'm not even a Jones fan, but of course he's the P2P best. He's still the most complete package out there. High level striking, elite wrestling, extremely versatile and adaptable, doesn't get tired, unique and at times unpredictable style. Islam doesn't come close. He's a very predictable fighter, his striking sucks, has one clear route to victory. He also still doesn't come close to GSP and Demetrious Johnson in terms of maturity. Win streaks don't play into the debate, otherwise you would have had to put Tony Ferguson into the P2P contention at one point and he clearly doesn't belong there.

[@yzwme586]

Thank you, it is totally flavor of the month. Alex fights and wins, next day Alex is P4P #1, Israel fights and wins, next day Israel is P4P #1, and so on. Everyone knows Jon Jones is the best..

[@bhumihar-fy7wt]

so why is not fighting the interim champ and fighting a figjter whose age is 42 year and who last fought 4yr ago and knocked out in that fight why if he is the best he is not the best ever he has done evrything which is bad for a fighter legacy he used steroid not one time several time and he fought middleweights his whole life but when he got to fight guys of his same reach and length he struggles every single time.with gus 1st fight he almost lost and msny prople still thing he lostin 2nd figth he wad on roid ufc chnaged the whole venue for him so that another comission allow him fihht on being roid ,reyes beats him ,he got to split with santos ,he goes tot he decision with anthony smith 😂really ?he is not the goat and he knows that aspinall will smokes him 10 out of 10 times

[@chrisricca1852]

Maybe... but prime Jones smokes prime Islam. 🐐

[@saljewsteinbergowitz]

wow groundbreaking shit for brains. Jones was a lhw and islam is a lightweight. Also, acting like jones is the goat is beyond laughable. Who has he fought? Who has he beat that's his size and his age? Name one person, i'll wait. Don't say gane, gane can't stop a takedown to save his life

[@athreadpool]

Get John those IV stem cells Mel Gibson got his dad. Get it for him weekly. Dude will be able to take on aspinal

[@dontbuyanything4729]

Stop pronouncing the K in Makhachev smh

[@ShroomDoggyDogg]

Jon beats Islam in a fight..P4P

[@Enlightenment246]

Islam definitely p4p without a doubt. Jones fights once every 5 years doesn’t make him an active fighter. Then they must look at ppl like Mohammad Ali and ppl like that bc at that time MMA didn’t exist but boxing did.🤷🏼‍♀️🤷🏼‍♀️🤷🏼‍♀️

[@DailyDoseOfFist]

His not delusional, there's two sides you clearly picked yours and he picked his. Dana is basing it over entire career and in that category Jon Jones is easily number 1 pound for pound. And is active

[@grapefruitsimmons]

If they were the same weight, islam runs through the crackhead. The only times Jon faced someone his age or younger, he lost. His biggest wins were against guys 35+ and passed their prime. And now hes ducking aspinall.

[@timurjack8773]

P4P is based on current activity and current wins, more than the half the people that Jones beat are either retired or went to lower level competition outside of UFC. DC is retired, Rampage is retired, Lyoto is retired, Glover is retired, Gustafson is retired, Sonnen is retired, Belfort is retired. As for the ones who are not retired; OSP and Santos are not even ranked in top 15, Jones arguably lose to Reyes and Reyes is not even ranked in top 10 and was on a long losing streak, Anthony Smith lose to many people as well, and is not in top 10. Cirly Gane was not even the champion when he fought Jones, Jones won the vacant Heavyweight belt after Ngannou the lineal champ left, and Gane is arguably not even top 3 heavyweight considering Gane never fought Aspinall, Pavlovich, Blaydes or Stipe. Jones's best p4p win is years before vs DC (DC has 72' reach, Makhachev has 70', Volk has 71', Jones with 84' reach has bigger size advantage vs DC) when DC was no.14 ranked in p4p list. Second DC fight is No Contest since Jones cheated by using steroids. Makhachev competes in toughest division, and beat p4p greats such as Oliveira, Volk, Poirier, and also beat Arman before and will have to rematch him. Another thing other than Jones was proven to be steroid cheater and never received 50 ufc clean tests jacket (Makhachev got that clean test jacket), Jones never fought with home field disadvantage, Jones always fought in USA with advantage while people complain when Russian Makhachev fight in Abu Dhabi, Makhachev goes to fight Australia or USA and fight with disadvantages.

[@markshaw1540]

He is delusional. Jones lost to Reyes and was gifted that win. He arguably lost against a one legged Santos and now is ducking the interim champ in Aspinall. Dana crapping on Islam in order to hype up a fight with Jones and Stipe that nobody wants is as scummy as you can get.

[@syedzafar7934]

He's active? 😂😂 Dude fought once in like how many years?

[@murkYuri]

Stop glazing

[@bhuvaneshs.k638]

I'll agree Jon Jones is the best pound for pound if he fights Tom Aspinal

[@PeterPopsoff]

Hua

[@thekinghash]

Islam was clearly #1 P4P after quite LITERALLY beating Volk FOR the p4p spot they marketed it as the p4p #1 spot battle

[@scraptonking3092]

Jon Jones only has one win in like five years. He’s practically irrelevant.

[@saljewsteinbergowitz]

The goat be like "I'm not fighting Aspinall.. He's scary" Now that is an active champion hahahahah wtf is dana talking about?

[@lucasbyrne258]

volk is still the goat

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