Dana White Shares His Darkest Moment & Timeline of UFC, Talks Trump & Jake Paul | The Pivot Podcast

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Dana White shares his dark moment around the sale of UFC, his relationship with Trump and addresses Jake Paul in an open and brutally honest discussion this week on The Pivot.
The UFC President and Business Icon invites Ryan, Fred and Channing to UFC headquarters and doesn’t hold back as he talks tough topics with the guys.
As Ryan asks Dana about his mindset during the business dealing of the UFC, Dana breaks down in a vulnerable moment saying how he shut down and went through a very dark time when the sale of the UFC was happening- “I locked myself in a hotel room off the radar and was really F’d up for a few days,” as he explains the moment.
Dana goes on to share with Fred and Channing how when the UFC was a nothing brand yet that no one wanted to deal with, one person had his back and let him host events and that was Donald Trump. He discusses his long relationship with the former President and goes on to explain how we all have friends who we don’t always agree with on everything but it doesn’t change us from being their friend.
Getting into the pay scale of fighters and often criticized business end of UFC, Dana explains his “eat what you kill”’motto which is something Channing is a big proponent of.
One important message he gets across is that you don’t have to like everyone to do business as Dana explains his disdain for the likes of Tito Ortiz, Bob Arum and Jake Paul but doesn’t let his personal feelings get in the way of closing a deal.
By the end of the conversation, Fred recognizes the respect level he has for Dana and explains how media misconceptions led him to have a pre-conceived notion about Dana but his openness and honesty changed that.
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Such a great interview. Some of these guys probably didn’t have the same political views as Dana, but they were still SO respectful of his opinion and outlook. Loved every minute of it. Great questions, great interviewers, and great guest 🙌🏼👏🏼🙏🏼

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16:37 “did (Roger) Goodell or (David) Stern reach out to u…” Way to bury the lead! David Stern called Dana White from the 🪦?!?!

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You want raw content. This episode was just that. The questions that were asked were very direct, and Dana did not shy away from any of them. You don’t have to agree with everything that is said or done, but it’s nice to have a understanding. These are not interviews. We are ease dropping on “grown folks” conversations.

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Great podcast guys. I would have never listened to pivot if it wasn’t for Dana being interviewed and I’m a fan. Y’all are smart and professional, and you did your homework before the interview. Well done, you got a new subscriber here.

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I’m not gonna lie, I have more respect for Dana after this podcast episode. My view on this man has changed. The Pivot Podcast is the next!

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Dana was right, you guys have some great questions in this podcast! I also just love how genuine and comfortable everyone is. Most importantly, the hosts aren't talking over each other and fighting for time. Great work lads!

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I am just glad Crowder kept quiet. He usually uses the mic to boast about himself or say something stupid. He was quiet this one and it was able to dig a bit, good podcast.

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I love this podcast for its diverse guests. Thanks guys!!!

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That’s why I love Fred, asking the questions some of us want. Respect!

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Damn, great interview, and like OG Fred, I too had a certain feeling about Dana but realized he and I share commonalities. He, like me, lives life and tries to do what's best for us and those important to us and are loyal to. Excellent episode, fellas!

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That was amazing! Gave us / me the chance to actually hear Dana’s story. Great interview. Respect you Guys and Dana

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I love the fact you guys don't interrupt the guest. Lot's of podcasts needs to watch ya'll

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I love your guys podcast, & I love the fact that all your guests have been straight up with all their answers. No BS, just real. Keep up the great work fellas. Can't wait till next week.

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The line up of guests combined with the depth of questions is absolutely amazing!

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amazing interview thank you for putting this out 🙏

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Damn what a great interview. You guys asked great questions and the atmosphere was so chill

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Quickly becoming my favorite podcast, keep killin it boys 🤘🏼

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Love the selection of guest,another great episode

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Great investment of my time watching this amazing interview 👌

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As a huge UFC fan, I love this interview with Dana and Juliana Pena. Thanks for mixing it up! Hopefully I'll bump into Ryan this weekend at UFC 274 in Phoenix!

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You three offer such a perfect balance in these interviews.

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Love this show u guys are true professionals and respectful to your guests regardless of if you agree with there view points or not but you still ask the tough questions…

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Great show! One of the best Dana interviews

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Classy as always fellas!! I could really see you guys at 70 and 80 years old with the same personalities sitting down with folks having great discussion!! Much love and respect fellas!! GOD bless!!💪🏾

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I love you guys! This show is giving the best interviews on people in the sports world. This interview, Shaq and Beasley are my favorite!

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This was an incredible podcast. Great questions and delivery. Dana is a f'ing warrior.

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Excellent show. Well done guys. KZbin needs voices like yours.

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Great interview!! Dana looked happy and engaged in the conversations! Looked like he actually wanted to be there keep it coming fellas!!🔥🔥