Angela Staircase Scene Comparison - Silent Hill 2 Remake vs Original

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@raey2960
@raey2960 3 ай бұрын
The og give the impression of Angela still delusion and confused about the situation she's in while the remake one feels like she acknowledge what's already happened but she refused to move on from it at least that's how I saw it
@hafirenggayuda
@hafirenggayuda 3 ай бұрын
OG Angela is losing her sanity, while Remake Angela losing her will to keep living
@RubyLing_
@RubyLing_ 3 ай бұрын
@@hafirenggayuda yes
@ricodontworryboutit3296
@ricodontworryboutit3296 2 ай бұрын
​@hafirenggayuda i like how they both did but in the end james himself knows he can't help somebody else when he can't even save himself
@anglo-saxonconnor817
@anglo-saxonconnor817 3 ай бұрын
By the time people made it to this scene both Angela and James were already near their breaking point already. Angela saw more and know more than James and this insight was enough to send her over the edge.While James still have one lingering wish which is to see Mary and say what needs to be said. They both dont have much more strength to go further anymore.
@Polomance862
@Polomance862 3 ай бұрын
The original plays more into Angela being delusional, and completely unhinged. I think the clear intent is written on what Angela wanted to do. She wanted to kill her mother, thinking once the last person in her family was dead. She'd find closure and peace with herself. She's far more pointed in her remarks. Alluding to this hatred of men she garnered from her traumatic past. She's far less kind to James than the remake is. Not that she liked him in either. The Remake plays more into Angela's grief, and how tired she is. She wants to kill her mother but accepts the wrong conclusion. She can't kill her so she'd rather kill herself. She also puts the pressure on James better where she points out James's kindness being superficial. he can't love her, heal her, or take care of her. His kindness is not helping her. Angela feeling hollow in the Remake conveys this setting that she's broken. She doesn't have the will to continue and so she gives up. I like to imagine that Angela is the reflection the "In Water" ending. A lesson to James should he fail to find the courage and answer he truly needs. To kill himself will never fix anything. He'll die in the hell he put himself in. Much like Angela who couldn't find the courage and truth to move on from her own trauma. She intended to kill herself and James watches herself walk into a hell she doesn't deserve.
@jedieknight72
@jedieknight72 3 ай бұрын
That's why I like original Angela more. She is way more expressive, her emotions change constantly in this scene from kind to doubtful and disappointed to self destructive and when she is in this state, she becomes so serious like she knows how everything is going to end because her traumatic events completely ruined her worldview of everything. Original feels like Im in a theatre while remake feels like a movie.
@jesusraycrep
@jesusraycrep 3 ай бұрын
​@@jedieknight72Is different
@rever98
@rever98 2 ай бұрын
@@jedieknight72 I like the original delivery of Angela more, but prefer everything else with the remake. There's an unpatched version of this scene in the remake where the lighting is MUCH more orange, and it really affects how the rebuke of James is conveyed. I think they toned it down for visibility reasons, which is a bit of a shame. The voice work in the remake is undeniably incredible. It has the intent of the original delivery, but it also has the distraught resignation of someone who is ready to end it all. It's really hard to totally understand if you watch the scene for the first time. It's way more subtle, but I kind of prefer how much more obvious the delivery of the original was. I acutally think just about everything in the remake was more subtle than the original, except for some puzzles. Also disagree with OP on the fact that she is less kind to him in the OG. She clearly apologized to him in the OG but does not in the remake.
@chesscomposer_
@chesscomposer_ 3 ай бұрын
The "I, I'm sorry" that angela says after she says "It's you" is just so good. It shows the back and forth--the self-doubt and distrust. Much more unsettling and feels more true to someone who went through that kind of incredibly horrible trauma
@CHRISMED2
@CHRISMED2 2 ай бұрын
I love Angela's new acting in this scene, so so sad. The transition from the old song into the new, sounds so epic as she climbs
@AvalancheGameArt
@AvalancheGameArt Ай бұрын
yes but she was looking to kill her mother, so why should be she sad in that scene? if you pay attention (your attention span is the equivalent of a goldfish) she also hates her mother because she defended her husband and son into the horrors they did to angela. her mother told her "you deserve it"
@johnashiru3952
@johnashiru3952 3 ай бұрын
Her story was always a tragic one it’s a shame you couldn’t save her
@geckoguyDaroh
@geckoguyDaroh 3 ай бұрын
I hate the way James just leaves on the remake, the original lets you wander around at the bottom of the stairs, watching her walk off to be engulfed by flame, you want to help but can't get past the fire, there's nothing you as the player can do but watch her, In the remake it doesn't even let the player try, even if it is futile... That hits so much harder to me.
@TimmyJay02
@TimmyJay02 3 ай бұрын
I thought that too the first time but re-watching it again, James does look like he is completely just lost and ready for everything to just end. You can see him turning and just kinda stumbling out like "there is nothing I can do anymore, nothing at all."
@geckoguyDaroh
@geckoguyDaroh 3 ай бұрын
@@TimmyJay02 It's just the fact it doesn't let the player experience that feeling in the remake, we see it through James which isn't the same thing, the original actually left you, the player, feeling helpless.
@TimmyJay02
@TimmyJay02 3 ай бұрын
@@geckoguyDaroh yeah but you gotta understand and by this point James is just ready to end his journey. There is literally about 30 minutes left of the game after this. He’s just sick of everything and he also finally realizes what silent hill is and what is happening. Some can’t be saved.
@geckoguyDaroh
@geckoguyDaroh 3 ай бұрын
@@TimmyJay02 No, I completely understand that, I'm just pointing out what the remake is missing. The feeling that you as the player are unable to help (I've edited my original post to remove mention of James not helping). Because James leaves in the remake it doesn't impact the player as hard as it does in the original, it doesn't matter how expressive he is (which he clearly is) and what he's feeling, I'm taking about the player, by giving back control at the bottom of the stairs it "dangles the carrot" and makes you feel like you can do more to help her, when actually you can't, leaving you feeling truly helpless. This is lost in the remake.
@TimmyJay02
@TimmyJay02 3 ай бұрын
@@geckoguyDaroh also what is great is the whole time James is denying his actions but Eddie and Angela knows. That is why every scene they are always questioning him about his wife and his true intentions. It is just him realizing what is really happening, and they are all lost like he is. Basically on the water ending James chooses the same path as Eddie and Angela. Honestly besides the fugly looking female faces, this game is damn near perfect.
@infiniteoctopaw
@infiniteoctopaw 3 ай бұрын
Wow, i like both!!! Im actually really surprised. Good job!!!
@anglo-saxonconnor817
@anglo-saxonconnor817 3 ай бұрын
In the game both Angela and James are looking for their mother and wife respectively in their own versions of silent hill. James want to be reunited with his wife to live together again. What about Angela? What does she want with her mother? To finish off the whole family so that she could finally find peace in life?
@CrismasterXD
@CrismasterXD 3 ай бұрын
SPOILERS. Both go to Silent Hill to find someone they already killed. Its implied that Angela already ended his Mom ’s live before his arriving to SH, but is delusional about it like James with Mary. In this cutscene she looks in the same state of mind that James took after watching the videotape, so probably shes going upstairs to commit suicide like James do in “In the Water” ending.
@flowrepins6663
@flowrepins6663 3 ай бұрын
I think the remake is not good i only take original to speculate. It seems she wanted to burn the mother also. She killed the brother and father, only missed the mother.
@ulyssesocounter8488
@ulyssesocounter8488 3 ай бұрын
Angela’s mother didn’t take part in the abuse, but she condoned it and left Angela by herself. Angela, however, doesn’t resent her for that, she just wants desperately to be loved.
@Guts-blood
@Guts-blood 3 ай бұрын
@@CrismasterXD James and Angela are the same but the end is very different Both are purify Angela by fire and James by water-both of them are delusional. The difference is that while Angela ascends, James, go deep into the ocean.
@makidtrej
@makidtrej 2 ай бұрын
Angela killed her father and brother (that's why she is looking for them in the cementery) but i don't think it's quite clear what happened to her mom. Apparently, she left after Angela killed her dad and brother and Silent Hill called Angela making her believe her mom was there. The game gives you no clue as to what actually happened to her.
@Terminated_Account
@Terminated_Account 2 ай бұрын
This James doesnt feel nearly as pathetic as the original, he kinda just stares at everything and sounds tired after a 9-5 job
@HaiYu0
@HaiYu0 3 ай бұрын
i love how OG James hung his head and lost in thoughts after listening to what Angela asked him "will you love me?" "take care of me?" "heal all my pain?" "that's what I thought". After hearing what Angela asked him, he looked guilty. this is really the essence of lost in this remake version.
@KE-yq2eg
@KE-yq2eg 3 ай бұрын
James just stares at everything now.
@billybro1403
@billybro1403 3 ай бұрын
this essence is literally there, I never played the OG and with the remake him being lost is the impression I got. Stop dissing on everything new
@intheraeyne
@intheraeyne 3 ай бұрын
You're seeing body language versus facial expressions and choosing to say this. The OG had to rely on exaggerated body language because the technology to animate subtle or intricate expressions did not exist. The remake encapsulates James' helplessness here through the defeat in his face when Angela confronts and denies his help, and the emptiness in his expression as he stumbles away from her. He feels hopeless and helpless. Again, there is nothing he can do for someone suffering in a way that cannot be saved or helped and that's clearly expressed in the remake. His personality is fairly different. I can say that much. In the OG he's a lot more vocal and emotionally expressive with his voice. But they were going for a David Lynch style of dialogue style/delivery. In the remake, that's not the case and they opted for something much more somber and depressive. James definitely plays as a depressed asshole in the remake, and it still fits the narration perfectly well. He isn't some emotionless robot, either. He's pretty consistently expressing guilt, shock, fear and anguish IN HIS FACE. He even gets paler as the game plays on, his eyes grow darker. When you find out he killed Mary, and when he understands that he did, he will no longer look at the player in the menu. He looks away in shame. The subtleties were not lost, they're expressed differently. I love the OG and the remake. Yes, they have a different vibe to how their characters are portrayed and it's a matter of choice. But the remake did not miss the mark at all. They just didnt come at the characterization from a camp angle like the OG
@based-ys9um
@based-ys9um 3 ай бұрын
​@@billybro1403you didn't play the original. Your opinion is irrelevant. Tourist 😂
@rever98
@rever98 2 ай бұрын
@@based-ys9um I played the original, stop gatekeeping. People can have opinions on scenes they've watched. I actually prefer the original Angela delivery(despite being less subtle), but everything else in the remake is better about this scene and it's my favourite scene in the game. The way the sparks evenlop Angela like a ghostly aura, the indignant presence of the flames in the background rebuke James with the intensity of Angela's words. James is also clearly more sympathetic in the remake despite it being hopeless. You also ignored intheraeyne's comment which is why the scene was done like this.
@gossamer999
@gossamer999 3 ай бұрын
The performances are different. Not bad, just different. Personally I prefer the original. Feels more cynical and heartbreaking. But I think for those who can not experience the original in firsthand glory this remake lives up to the hype.
@alexarviso6836
@alexarviso6836 2 ай бұрын
yes the performece of original angela is better
@Oook100
@Oook100 2 ай бұрын
Yes this scene was disappointing but the abstract daddy scene hit me hard
@scorpion__
@scorpion__ 3 ай бұрын
I prefer OG staircase scene and i copy one comment from different video why : In original I like how she asks James if he could “save her, “ and not just give her advice or help her like he did, but actually take her pain away. James just looks down, realizing he couldn’t save Maria, Mary, or even himself in regret.
@may292
@may292 3 ай бұрын
They should have made her stare at the camera in the remake just like the original one, like shes staring at the player instead of james.
@Terminated_Account
@Terminated_Account 2 ай бұрын
Its so good how you dont see James reaction and then it pans to show him with his head down. The Remake didnt even try lol
@Oook100
@Oook100 2 ай бұрын
@@Terminated_Accountyes he knows he can’t save her and looks down in shame 😢
@Stopitreacts96
@Stopitreacts96 Ай бұрын
I’m pretty sure it’s just James perspective
@Sarah-qx4vz
@Sarah-qx4vz 2 ай бұрын
I prefer the new one. She seems so broken and exhausted.
@AvalancheGameArt
@AvalancheGameArt Ай бұрын
You haven't understood shit about the story then
@HotcakeCurious
@HotcakeCurious Ай бұрын
Same
@HotcakeCurious
@HotcakeCurious Ай бұрын
​@@AvalancheGameArt you again? My goodness, you're such a baby. You need to learn people won't always have the same tastes and opinion as you. Finish elementary school before arguing with strangers online 😂
@AvalancheGameArt
@AvalancheGameArt Ай бұрын
@@HotcakeCurious it's funny how useless people tend to be more pretentious than others.
@jedieknight72
@jedieknight72 3 ай бұрын
I like the original more because Angela sounds more unhinged, she is so far gone to the point where her speech and emotions change constantly, from surprise to realization to disappointment, to thanking James, then doubting him and throwing away his kindness. And when in her self destructive state, she becomes so determined and strict like you can clearly hear that tone in phrases such as "that's what i thought" and "James, give me back that knife". While in the remake she sounds sad and fed up with herself. And in general, many people tell that the whole voiceover was weird but it honestly fits better. Remake looks great but it's like too cinematic for me. And no, its not nostalgia, I played this game for the first time a couple of years ago.
@СерхиоБускетс-ф7я
@СерхиоБускетс-ф7я 3 ай бұрын
In new version their voice acting and facial animation are inadequate to the situation.
@maxi2733
@maxi2733 2 ай бұрын
Nostalgiaaa!!!
@RopeDrink
@RopeDrink 28 күн бұрын
I like both versions very much, but overall, I prefer the original for several reasons. Firstly, the OG's tune is at normal speed, whereas the remake version is noticeably slower. It's more dramatic, but I like the faster version better. Secondly, you can see the flames grow and envelop Angela in OG - instead of cutting away from (and back to) magically bigger flames out of nowhere in the remake. I also hate that remake James immediately walks out of the room. Conversely, I like the bitter contradiction of the OG. James will claim he'd never off himself, and yet, via "In Water", he claims that offing himself was the main reason he's here in the first place. Lastly, I prefer OG Angela's "Always like this delivery". But hey, maybe that's just me.
@solargirl7329
@solargirl7329 3 ай бұрын
The saddest part is you can’t save someone who doesn’t want to be saved and James saw that
@drizkie9361
@drizkie9361 2 ай бұрын
I can't imagine the horror of seeing your mom and you go to hug her and she turns into James 😂
@AvalancheGameArt
@AvalancheGameArt Ай бұрын
angela wasn't going for an hug.. she was going to strangle her.
@vetsen_12
@vetsen_12 2 ай бұрын
😢 Angela a tellement vécu des atrocités! On ressent encore plus sa peine et son désarroi, du fait qu'elle est perdu totalement dans le remake. Elle me fait tellement de la peine 😢💔
@Oook100
@Oook100 2 ай бұрын
I hope this is in return to silent hill
@Pawi_
@Pawi_ 3 ай бұрын
The meaning of this scene is that she will never Overcoming what happened to her?
@pathetic2399
@pathetic2399 3 ай бұрын
Nope. She kills herself.
@Pawi_
@Pawi_ 3 ай бұрын
@@pathetic2399 f
@alexmcginnis2889
@alexmcginnis2889 Ай бұрын
Yes, she doesn’t overcome it and she chooses not to save herself. It’s essentially because you can help a person as much as possible, but only they can choose to save themselves when it comes down to it. She chooses not to (hint why she tells james she wished he hadnt helped her) and I believe eventually kills herself.
@rushingwp
@rushingwp 3 ай бұрын
the remake expresses a deeper layer of sadness. imagine you're Angela and looking for mom in the labyrinth that is being covered with fire -- eventually seeing your 'mama' will be a relief but also sad, and the remake captures all that. and one small detail is that the remake keeps the sentence 'heal all my pain?' as nearly the same as OG, that's some fine wine they brew.
@None1tuz574
@None1tuz574 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, cool bad voice acting now also conveys deep notes of emotion. The original sounds as it should and is believable, and this is a pitiful sight. No, this is not good wine, but cheap booze with a label of a famous series.
@andrewromero6913
@andrewromero6913 3 ай бұрын
The original Angela expressed much more pain/anguish. This remake of Angela just feels hollow. It's a remaining for sure, and I don't think it completely conveyed the emotions/trauma she went through.
@backwoodsonthabeat7783
@backwoodsonthabeat7783 3 ай бұрын
Fine wine? No. This remake is spoiled milk.
@amornoro2076
@amornoro2076 3 ай бұрын
Haha i can't with new medium ugli angela's bored voice tone with forced line deliveries haha. I know she tried her best to be some soap drama girl but the line delivery making new angela as a clown.
@almas4663
@almas4663 3 ай бұрын
​@@None1tuz574 The original's voice acting is one of the worst instances of voice acting I've heard, and people in remake sound like REAL people
@dylcxx
@dylcxx 3 ай бұрын
7:10 u can literally see her model just despawn 💀 need an update bloober
@aapddd
@aapddd Ай бұрын
The remake adds, it doesn’t subtract. It’s brilliant and it respects the original.
@AvalancheGameArt
@AvalancheGameArt Ай бұрын
quality > quanity. you can stick the remake where you know.
@aapddd
@aapddd Ай бұрын
You do the same with the original. Lucky for me, I only have the digital.
@AvalancheGameArt
@AvalancheGameArt Ай бұрын
@@aapddd I have emulated the original so i guess i'll have to stick the whole full tower pc. Still, quality always beats quantity, if you like quantity go play fallout 4 or generative ai games. Also the "additions" can be bad additions infact they ruined the game a lot. Saying maria is good in the remake is the most retarded thing ever. And when angela is more beautiful than Maria then you have a problem with your art direction.
@HotcakeCurious
@HotcakeCurious Ай бұрын
Completely agree
@HotcakeCurious
@HotcakeCurious Ай бұрын
​@@AvalancheGameArtAw, little baby got offended by a different opinion? Boo hoo
@MATAX5
@MATAX5 3 ай бұрын
Any true Silent Hill 2 fan can tell you what’s the dead giveaway as to how they know Angela dies in this scene, without any confirmation from outside the game. I’ll give you a hint; think about when Eddie died.
@michaelschwab5550
@michaelschwab5550 3 ай бұрын
what do you mean i cant figure it out
@MATAX5
@MATAX5 3 ай бұрын
@@michaelschwab5550 Fire and Ice
@MitchDux
@MitchDux 3 ай бұрын
Insane that they got a comparison video in front of them and they cant tell why the OG is so much more beloved. Just watch the "don't pity me" scene. 2:25 OG has an insane range of emotions, they move around while they speak, starts as self-pity then she stops as realization hits, turns to mocking James/he player for thinking they can save her, all while looking at the camera. Then we cut to James looking down, mimicking the player's emotions. Theres mocking anger in Angela's questions, directed at us, something we've never heard before. Remake has Angela sat down in the stairs, face barely changing as she goes from dont pity me to asking questions. All questions asked in a flat monotone as she looks away from the camera (why?). The tone doesn't fit the original lines. Theres mocking, but it sounds like they're mocking the questions more than James/the player. OG Angela's scuff gets turned into a sad sniffle/laugh and more monotone, sad delievery of "thats what I thought", turning the whole chastising scene into another self-pity scene for Angela. I have nothing agaisnt the new voice actress, but the cutscene director butchered this scene. And sadly many more.
@MrChapmanification
@MrChapmanification 2 ай бұрын
Finally someone else sees it - they removed Angela’s move in this scene from delusional naivety to outright derision for the player/james. It’s so central to her character, remember she’s a broken person at this point, so she starts lashing out. ALL of that is removed in the new one.
@habuowe3483
@habuowe3483 2 ай бұрын
Honestly the OG is cringesorthy in comparison to the remake. The VA is just leagues better in every regard.
@MrChapmanification
@MrChapmanification 2 ай бұрын
@ There is no way you can be serious
@MitchDux
@MitchDux 2 ай бұрын
@@habuowe3483 Bro we don't care about voice actors, we care about the scene.
@habuowe3483
@habuowe3483 2 ай бұрын
@@MitchDux bruh, the scene is shit because of the bad voice acting.
@rz5260
@rz5260 3 ай бұрын
Man the scene of the burning stairway in remake is epic and savage. What a nice camera and colors for the scene.
@omellemmor4732
@omellemmor4732 3 ай бұрын
Yup in the original the flames are simply the fog, they just colored it similar to flames, I understand, graphical limitations back then
@kieranl5249
@kieranl5249 3 ай бұрын
but none of the interesting angles and camera movement of the original
@flowrepins6663
@flowrepins6663 3 ай бұрын
​@@kieranl5249voice acting of original is way better. I only liked new james a bit but original is the best.
@dokidash7052
@dokidash7052 3 ай бұрын
I feel sorry for all the people that are missing out on this experience just because they live off nostalgia. SH2 is a masterpiece, but this game has so many new layers that it is a brand new flavor. You can enjoy each one of the versions differently, and I'm happy to live in a time in which Silent Hill is popular again with a good game.
@BronsonFan111
@BronsonFan111 3 ай бұрын
For real. There’s like this whole group of people that choose to downplay whatever a remake does compared to the original. By all means you can prefer the original, but to completely disregard the remakes work is baffling to me lol. It’s like they make it personality to say “hey I’m cool because the OG is better I was there when it happened” Bruh I was there when it happened too but I’m not being a loser trying to seem cool because you like the original lol.
@dokidash7052
@dokidash7052 3 ай бұрын
​@@BronsonFan111 EXACTLY MY POINT! Thank you for being a sensitive and reasonable Silent Hill fan. It's clear the devs respect the source material as much as we do, and poured their souls into something that was still respectful but also felt like a brand new experience. I don't know why people think it's either one or the other, it can be both.
@Deathtizity
@Deathtizity 3 ай бұрын
@@BronsonFan111 so you like bad voice acting its ok not everyne is a good critic
@dokidash7052
@dokidash7052 3 ай бұрын
@@Deathtizity Haha yeah because the original voices were masterpieces 😂
@SeriousDragonify
@SeriousDragonify 3 ай бұрын
Newsflash, ignorant. Silent Hill 2 remake is nostalgia. The game is nostalgic, just refurbished and done on different design and retconed. Learn how t speak normally, dum dum.
@alexandersmith4731
@alexandersmith4731 3 ай бұрын
New one is how I imagine Ebony Dark'ness Dementia Raven Way talks when she's sad in the fanfic
@tsogobauggi8721
@tsogobauggi8721 3 ай бұрын
Fire can't kill that monster.
@Manabeasts
@Manabeasts 3 ай бұрын
I like this scene of the remake more. The acting is more realistic and represents her trauma better. Also that you can't run after her anymore is not a bad thing. She already made absolutely clear that she cannot be saved. I like the long hallway scene of the orginal more. You can hear Marys desperation better. Overall It's a much better remake than I could imagine. After reading all that hate I expected to get a really bad woke game, but its an almost perfect remake in my opinion.
@drkinferno72
@drkinferno72 Ай бұрын
I crei evertim 😢
@dxtrmrgn
@dxtrmrgn 3 ай бұрын
The remake is great, but the delivery of the dialogue especially in some key scenes, like this one, is worse. Especially when Angela says "I deserved what happened", where while being the victim she blames herself, it's full of emotion and pain, while in the remake feels flat. Same with the lines after that. My opinion of course. They made the game much better in some other areas though. Like when you fight the Angela boss they actually made it better to get across visually what Angela went through. So I guess you win some, you lose some.
@ulyssesocounter8488
@ulyssesocounter8488 3 ай бұрын
Og’s delivery is terrible in my opinion. Not the tone, mind you. it was frenzier and crazier than the remake, which is good, provided the actress can deliver the lines, but she couldn’t. “YOU’RE NOT MY MAMA!” Is supposed to sound desperate and surprised at the same time, but it honestly sounds kind of lifeless, at least to me.
@intheraeyne
@intheraeyne 3 ай бұрын
It's different deliveries. The OG is done in a camp David Lynch style. Angela absolutely sounds despaired in the new one, which takes a more somber approach to their characterization. Something a bit more theatrical.
@Sarah-qx4vz
@Sarah-qx4vz 2 ай бұрын
Newer one sounds more realistic and therefore more depressing. I hated Angela in the original because she seemed so unhinged from the start. Remake makes her seem more normal, more human.
@transporter255
@transporter255 3 ай бұрын
I like what they have delivered in the remake, one of the best psychological survival horror games
@AvalancheGameArt
@AvalancheGameArt Ай бұрын
your mother
@LikaLaruku
@LikaLaruku 2 ай бұрын
Never realized how "Tommy Waseau" the voice acting was in the original before. lol.
@TitosLastBrainCell-8
@TitosLastBrainCell-8 3 ай бұрын
I prefer OG James, he sounds much sweeter. Remake is generic.
@Slaughter_Hill
@Slaughter_Hill 3 ай бұрын
He sounds like a man in the new one. Back then it was some dude who sounds like he barely knows English lol
@TitosLastBrainCell-8
@TitosLastBrainCell-8 3 ай бұрын
@@Slaughter_Hill New one sounds like just another action hero, OG James has a unique voice and it suits the dreamy vibe of the game.
@Soybean13
@Soybean13 3 ай бұрын
The new version sounds like am actual person....while the old one sounds like a broadway acting 😂
@EddDeee12
@EddDeee12 3 ай бұрын
if there’s any character who had a better va than the original it’s james lol. you’re living in delusion. made nba 2k voice actors sound amazing
@sillylittlesheepjax6009
@sillylittlesheepjax6009 3 ай бұрын
@@EddDeee12 these guys are crazy, new james vocie actor did amazing
@shodannadohs4045
@shodannadohs4045 3 ай бұрын
The Original had that Dream/Nightmare atmostphere and the characters reflected this. They seemed so disjointed. The Remake tried to make it all more realistic and emotional and this changed the tone for the worst in my opinion.
@TitosLastBrainCell-8
@TitosLastBrainCell-8 3 ай бұрын
Remake feels way too generic imo
@MrChapmanification
@MrChapmanification 2 ай бұрын
Underrated comment and very true - by trying to heighten the emotions they made it too dramatic and less surreal.
@CHaosMD
@CHaosMD 3 ай бұрын
Ремейк намного лучше, более реалистичнее, а в оригинале будто дешёвая театральная постановка
@СерхиоБускетс-ф7я
@СерхиоБускетс-ф7я 3 ай бұрын
не смешите мои тапочки. до оригинала ремейк не дотягивает во всем.
@zoltanhorvath5527
@zoltanhorvath5527 3 ай бұрын
Original is way better when it comes to the expression of emotions. The remake is really good and everything: BUT the voice acting is just terrible. And not just with Angela, tbh I disliked most of the characters from this point of view. I just didn't felt them, the tone sounded empty and bored.
@TwKnDx
@TwKnDx 3 ай бұрын
Very true
@LuckyNeuron-ys8sy
@LuckyNeuron-ys8sy 3 ай бұрын
James and Eddie are solid
@tayloradams372
@tayloradams372 3 ай бұрын
I gotta disagree
@morucek
@morucek 3 ай бұрын
@@tayloradams372 me too. i think the remake is just great
@warchiefvenomn7612
@warchiefvenomn7612 3 ай бұрын
I agree
@watchtheworldburnpepe2921
@watchtheworldburnpepe2921 3 ай бұрын
remakes actings better. idk why these fanboys are crying
@anomitas
@anomitas 3 ай бұрын
Its ok to be wrong
@silverg2862
@silverg2862 3 ай бұрын
It's ok to be wrong.
@omellemmor4732
@omellemmor4732 3 ай бұрын
Nostalgia nutcase geeks complain just for the sake of complaining, this remake is no perfect similar to RE2 Remake, but it's a good remake
@nurbmanjones1709
@nurbmanjones1709 3 ай бұрын
Remake is miles better. I honestly don’t know how some would vouch for the OG with its horrible voice and deadpan acting, remake is much more realistic, especially Angela’s. Nostalgia is a hell of a drug.
@silverg2862
@silverg2862 3 ай бұрын
@nurbmanjones1709 Original is supposed to sound uncanny and dream like. Very much evokes David Lynch vibes and other experimental arthouse films. Just makes the original more interesting to me.
@pathetic2399
@pathetic2399 3 ай бұрын
I liked the voice acting in the original scene better, also, don’t like that James leaves in the end. What was the point of that?
@SerpentineDeity
@SerpentineDeity 3 ай бұрын
I can tell the team did put some effort into the game but even so they miss a lot of things in translation. The sanitization aside, there are many things in James' body language that clue us into the fact he's not the best of persons and Bloober softened James up some on that. The OG Angela notices James is not very empathic to her pain and is focused mostly on himself and comes to terms with that with the "that's what I thought". This sort of shunning is something victims often deal with and some never find their lifeline just as Angela did not find her own. That and the acting is on a whole different scale. The OG may come off as corny at times but you see a whole lot more range of emotions from how Angela can shift from meek, to spiteful, to baby talk. Most of the new VAs just sound like they're reading a script.
@amornoro2076
@amornoro2076 3 ай бұрын
Why these new remake's voice actors or actresses eating their words like chewing something while speaking and talk so nasally? They are so amateurish and sloppy voice actors especially new angela nd james ( not saying eddy and laura are any better). James forcing his nasal voice too many times was so annoying to my ears. The way new angela's line delivery felt like high school talent show acting fake crying and eating her words like no sharp voice tone and no sharp line delivery. I rolled my eyes at too much cheap drama voice acting of this new remake haha.
@HaiYu0
@HaiYu0 3 ай бұрын
i miss 2000s voice actor now😂
@amornoro2076
@amornoro2076 3 ай бұрын
​@@HaiYu0i mean if james had more sharp tone with less nasal voice, i would be fine but c'mon. I don't want to hear any of this new angela's elementary at best written dialogues and bad voice acting.
@Liam-mv9zi
@Liam-mv9zi 3 ай бұрын
You’re just saying exactly what other people are saying, word for word. You people haven’t actually thought objectively about the acting, it’s just different from what you remember so you think it’s bad. People say the voice acting is monotone, then they say that it’s too dramatic. Well, it can’t be both, so which is it? There’s clearly no common consensus, so some of you are just making shit up. Then say that James’ voice is too nasal, when it has more gravel than even the original… just pulled that out of your ass lol
@TheReverseAntagonist
@TheReverseAntagonist 3 ай бұрын
​@@Liam-mv9zi I'm pretty sure the above comment is a bot, all it's comments read like an AI prompt
@amornoro2076
@amornoro2076 3 ай бұрын
@@Liam-mv9zi both stup!d this new angela's bad voice acting got boring *ss tone with cheap dramatic acting! What's so hard to understand!
@peterbergmann8213
@peterbergmann8213 3 ай бұрын
Is the same, but in the remake she eat more empanadas
@sillylittlesheepjax6009
@sillylittlesheepjax6009 3 ай бұрын
she looks like old angry cat lady in og XD not 19 y old girl
@HotcakeCurious
@HotcakeCurious Ай бұрын
She looks completely normal. She doesn't look ugly or fat. Idk why y'all complaining that a character who has been sexually abused isn't sexy enough to your tastes. It's weird
@HotcakeCurious
@HotcakeCurious Ай бұрын
​@@sillylittlesheepjax6009 fr. I understand trauma can fasten aging, but that was way too much
@peterbergmann8213
@peterbergmann8213 Ай бұрын
@@HotcakeCurious calma down angry feminist, it's a joke kkkkk
@attacker-2
@attacker-2 3 ай бұрын
Please interview the cast
@MrChapmanification
@MrChapmanification 2 ай бұрын
The voice acting in the remake sounds like 2 Hollywood actors overdoing it. The voice actors in the original sound like real people too far gone to save. The way Angela sounds like she’s regressed to childhood in the original and how her voice slowly transforms from innocence to incredulity is completely lost from this version. An integral part of her character - when she says don’t pity me, she mocks James and the player (camera switches to first person) with derision, her voice becomes mocking when she says will you love me - all that’s gone here. Also - a fire barrier moves between the characters in the original - almost a physical representation of how there’s no way of saving Angela - again because James walks away in the cutscene here it takes agency from the player.
@keystrix3704
@keystrix3704 2 ай бұрын
Setting aside me spiting the design of having Remake Angela storing chestnuts in her cheeks for winter and making her look more like a kid... The dead energy she goes with in the scene is certainly a fine take. I don't hate it. But I think it still comes off as flat some lines more than emotionless. But, still, I Think it's fine. OG Angela still takes the cake as she acts out more determined with her unhinged drive that got her that far, but it drains over time into "dead inside" energy. Makes the scenes more intense and then depressing. Even the camera angles on her are more intense. Side note, I actually like Remake James. I think he did the best job in the game. I know a lot of OG fans don't like the direction all the characters were taken, but I think he did the best for what he was given to do. Though, I don't like in this scene how it he immediately leaves. Wish he would at least linger longer.
@lastbeer
@lastbeer 3 ай бұрын
They've made mutilated men bodies less visible. And when camera pans over them background becomes blurry. Pathetic
@HotcakeCurious
@HotcakeCurious Ай бұрын
Ok edgy boy
@mysterycharm03
@mysterycharm03 3 ай бұрын
The original Angela nailed the character better. The sudden switches in her mood and the feeling of disassociation in her actions like she's masking it all along. The remake angela is very tired and depressed and seems wants to end it all. It is not nostalgia for me but I'd like how OG Jame's feel disassociated through the tone of his voice he sounds naive and confused and always questions his actions. The remake James is just going on one direction sad & depressed.
@RayoSombrio78
@RayoSombrio78 3 ай бұрын
Damn, why Angela's new face looks so different?
@Santi-vr6rm
@Santi-vr6rm 3 ай бұрын
Bloober used motion capture and didn't bother to make the characters look like their original versions
@RubyLing_
@RubyLing_ 3 ай бұрын
To match how a tragic teenager who went through many abuse throughout her life being represented. Lots of people have said the OG Angela looks like she's in her 30s, while she's actually19 year old
@Slaughter_Hill
@Slaughter_Hill 3 ай бұрын
She looks a lot younger which imo is better. She looked older than Maria and James in the original despite being half their age
@Santi-vr6rm
@Santi-vr6rm 3 ай бұрын
@@RubyLing_ actually people who suffer the things she did tend to age faster
@KingEgyptian
@KingEgyptian 3 ай бұрын
God the remake just feels so soulless. I've never even played the og SH2, but from this video alone, you can forgive its short comings cuz of the hardware limitations for the time. The remake has no excuses, especially with its dull voice acting, which seems to be an issue for recent AAA games for some reason.
@Slaughter_Hill
@Slaughter_Hill 3 ай бұрын
“Never played the og” We got a restarted essay fan over here
@KingEgyptian
@KingEgyptian 3 ай бұрын
@@Slaughter_Hill We got a zoomer that likes demakes.
@EddDeee12
@EddDeee12 3 ай бұрын
“i’ve never played the original SH2” ☠️☠️
@KingEgyptian
@KingEgyptian 3 ай бұрын
@@EddDeee12 Does it bother you that someone who isn't blinded by nostalgia makes a fair visual comparison and still prefers the original?
@EddDeee12
@EddDeee12 3 ай бұрын
@@KingEgyptian Nope, it’s you criticizing the voice acting when you don’t even understand the subtleties of why they deliver the lines the way they do based on their character. that goes for the original and remake too lol. play the game and you might get some background on angela’s character 😂
@mitsuri3096
@mitsuri3096 3 ай бұрын
Original is just better in every way only thing is the kombat
@gattsu1632
@gattsu1632 3 ай бұрын
Imo the crappy combat made it more immersive, James doesn’t strike me as a gunslinger or able to duck and dodge like a boxer like in the remake.
@almas4663
@almas4663 3 ай бұрын
Keep coping. You're just blinded by nostalgia.
@F.A.S.D
@F.A.S.D 3 ай бұрын
Keep living in the past bro you clearly in it for the nostalgia, how can someone prefer the OG than this remake with all that bad voice acting and clumsy ass dialogue. It is soo outdated
@yeahsure2690
@yeahsure2690 3 ай бұрын
​@@gattsu1632yeah, but its normal to any normal person to duck and dodge out of harm's way
@amornoro2076
@amornoro2076 3 ай бұрын
Girl, all that cheap soap drama-ish acting of sh2remake's is corny and outdated so mid or late 2000s high school talent show drama acting haha. ​@@F.A.S.D
@IxNAPxI
@IxNAPxI 3 ай бұрын
despite failing capturing the essence of the original with the Mary's letter voice acting I must say that they did a much better job than the original with Eddie and Angela, especially Angela's last cut scene is done amazingly well, extraordinary remake
@viiranen
@viiranen 3 ай бұрын
recently heard that the original mary VA's voice broke like that cause her mother had died recently, and that letter apparently brought all the feelings to the surface. the letter reading is absolutely peak of VA work even today, but i can absolutely see it being a case of lightning in a bottle. unrepeatable act of greatness come upon by accident.
@robertlawrence9000
@robertlawrence9000 3 ай бұрын
The shape of Angela's face in the original is better.
@Slaughter_Hill
@Slaughter_Hill 3 ай бұрын
She’s too ugly in the original
@СерхиоБускетс-ф7я
@СерхиоБускетс-ф7я 3 ай бұрын
do you mean donut shape?
@lainzero4549
@lainzero4549 3 ай бұрын
this song has been ruined for me thanks to that skateboarding james meme.
@HotcakeCurious
@HotcakeCurious Ай бұрын
😭
@SinnedSeries
@SinnedSeries 3 ай бұрын
I love what they did to Angela in this remake. Maria is why I'm so disappointed.
@dokidash7052
@dokidash7052 3 ай бұрын
I agree. Maria looks and sounds super off, and not in a Silent Hill way. Which is weird, because Mary doesn't look that bad.
@anitadick2509
@anitadick2509 3 ай бұрын
Maria sounds great to me but angela disapointed me a little bit. Remake's angela giving me more cheesy teenage drama type of acting which makes her performance a little bit underwhelming.
@bogargeldarium
@bogargeldarium 3 ай бұрын
That's maybe because she is a young woman haven't you thought about that? ​@@anitadick2509
@LuckyNeuron-ys8sy
@LuckyNeuron-ys8sy 3 ай бұрын
Tbf the original Maria is just that good
@SinnedSeries
@SinnedSeries 3 ай бұрын
the voice of the remake Maria is so calm and collected while the OG Maria is fragile, seductive, and kinda manipulative. The suit of the Remake Maria has a strong vibe, the red leather jacket makes her so strong while in the OG Maria, the RED cardigan really suits her and makes her weak and helpless/vulnerable. I empathize with OG Maria in the Elevator scene. Kinda sad that they remove her scream in the elevator scene in the Remake. Well anyway love it overall but there's a but haha.
@racazael
@racazael 3 ай бұрын
God no, the original performance, it didn't deserve this.
@ssh_9
@ssh_9 2 ай бұрын
Angela on the remake is so bad to the point they need to do remake for the remake to fix Angela
@Sarah-qx4vz
@Sarah-qx4vz 2 ай бұрын
No.
@OrionRenegade662
@OrionRenegade662 2 ай бұрын
Absolutely! Remake Angela is horrible compared to the original!
@almas4663
@almas4663 3 ай бұрын
The ampunt of nostalgia-blind fanboys in the comments is scary....
@BlackCroft666
@BlackCroft666 3 ай бұрын
The defenders of bad - average work are also scary
@ЕленаПономарева-о6о
@ЕленаПономарева-о6о 3 ай бұрын
I have an idea for you then, eat some shit
@SplashBang__
@SplashBang__ 3 ай бұрын
That's what I'm saying. Idk how you can say the remake actors did bad like what?
@adronator
@adronator 3 ай бұрын
I like both versions
@SeriousDragonify
@SeriousDragonify 3 ай бұрын
Yeah because recreating nostalgia game doesnt make remake nostalgic as well... What an ignorant statement from a dum dum.
@alelianas
@alelianas 3 ай бұрын
Voiceacting is so terrible in the remake
@sillylittlesheepjax6009
@sillylittlesheepjax6009 3 ай бұрын
cope boomer
@noahbuster4333
@noahbuster4333 3 ай бұрын
The remake voice actors are flat and lifeless.
@НиколайКалугин-м2б
@НиколайКалугин-м2б 3 ай бұрын
Also she speaks like she chews on something.
@amornoro2076
@amornoro2076 3 ай бұрын
This new angela is eating her words and no sharp line deliveries haha. Such a fake soap drama girl. Cheap soap drama-ish fake crying acting is so late 2000s high school talent show drama acting skill.
@almas4663
@almas4663 3 ай бұрын
The remake voice actors sound like real people having a deep cobversation. The original sounds like a preschool theater, with overexxagerated delivery
@delighted2849
@delighted2849 3 ай бұрын
@@almas4663 still trying to troll other comments?
@Cammers
@Cammers 3 ай бұрын
​@@delighted2849Dunno how a fairly correct statement is a troll.
@gustavohrb
@gustavohrb 3 ай бұрын
muito melhor o antigo parece muito uma psicopata do que o remake sem sal
@bahadr4814
@bahadr4814 3 ай бұрын
remake version is better in every single way possible
@backwoodsonthabeat7783
@backwoodsonthabeat7783 3 ай бұрын
Remake Voice actors suck 😂
@HaiYu0
@HaiYu0 3 ай бұрын
James's voice acting is the only good in remake😂
@probablyyes8339
@probablyyes8339 3 ай бұрын
@@HaiYu0not really. I miss guy cihi’s voice.
@sillylittlesheepjax6009
@sillylittlesheepjax6009 3 ай бұрын
@@probablyyes8339 cope boomer
@Slaughter_Hill
@Slaughter_Hill 3 ай бұрын
@@probablyyes8339yeah he sounded like a guy who barely knows English. New one is way better
@trankimkhanh5444
@trankimkhanh5444 3 ай бұрын
This remake of Angela is kinda bad 😢
@LikaLaruku
@LikaLaruku 2 ай бұрын
But the voice acting is so much better.
@Sarah-qx4vz
@Sarah-qx4vz 2 ай бұрын
She’s so much better in the remake
@nijel1943
@nijel1943 3 ай бұрын
Nostalfan defense for bad voice acting: "iT's DrEAmLiKe"
@almas4663
@almas4663 3 ай бұрын
The oroginal voice actors are terrible...It sounds like "The Room"... The new Angela is phenomenal
@BlackCroft666
@BlackCroft666 3 ай бұрын
Original: David Lynch New cast: Boring average with exception of Eddie
@ЕленаПономарева-о6о
@ЕленаПономарева-о6о 3 ай бұрын
You need go to ear doctor
@Yetis-o3z
@Yetis-o3z 3 ай бұрын
@@ЕленаПономарева-о6оYou need a brain surgeon.
@almas4663
@almas4663 3 ай бұрын
@@ЕленаПономарева-о6о No, you need to. Seriously, how can you call the original acting good?
@EggOnYourLeg
@EggOnYourLeg 3 ай бұрын
I think the original was more off because the original idea was to make it feel like Twin Peaks and have things feel incredibly dissonant to a degree. I don't dislike the OG voices myself, in fact I think they're great, but the new voice actors are doing a good job here to try and realise Silent Hill in a more grounded fashion The people having such a massive problem with the remake voice actors are annoying to be honest. The original game still exists and they can still play it, but I'm glad the remake is doing what it's done.
@thegreatpoo2electricboogal318
@thegreatpoo2electricboogal318 3 ай бұрын
I am convinced this comment section is full of bloober employees defending their work 😂 in no universe is the DULL ass acting in the remake better. And stop denying Angela's DEI face.
@robertaruta9051
@robertaruta9051 3 ай бұрын
i cant believe that they're the same who played the OG and say the remake is better 💀
@GraysonResistance
@GraysonResistance 2 ай бұрын
haha funny ..... i guess ..................................
@Christophercurtis22
@Christophercurtis22 Ай бұрын
Dei face? She looks like a random teen girl. 😂 creep probably wants a SA victim to be beautiful.😂
@HotcakeCurious
@HotcakeCurious Ай бұрын
Dull? You mean depressed and devasted? Which is exactly how people in those situations sound irl? And you're also gonna say that the scenes where they screamed beautifully and desperately are also dull? Get out the nostalgia train, or else you won't enjoy nothing in life and end up "dull" yourself 😂 Also, Angela looks completely normal and actually her age now. She doesn't look ugly, nor fat, nor weird like many like you say (y'all probably are unfit mfs munching on their parents money) Have you ever seen a woman irl? You mad the sexually abused girl doesn't look sexy to your tastes? Weird mf
@Faerûn4
@Faerûn4 10 күн бұрын
​@@HotcakeCurious Most people hating this game are politically-driven. You're wasting your time
@eliwoodnguyen1505
@eliwoodnguyen1505 3 ай бұрын
Omg The OG voice is sssso much better The OG has the sacarstic, the drama, the tone The remake is just 1 note😂🤣😂🤣➖➖➖➖➖➖ flat And the way camera point at Angela is like she is talking to the player not james. That is brilliant
@s.m.a.h6600
@s.m.a.h6600 3 ай бұрын
They just destroyed a castle to build someplace to bury garbage
@michaelschwab5550
@michaelschwab5550 3 ай бұрын
what?
@s.m.a.h6600
@s.m.a.h6600 3 ай бұрын
Come on man The masterpiece has been destroyed Nothing left of it
@kuroe-chan5190
@kuroe-chan5190 3 ай бұрын
Jesus it’s not the end of the world. I’m enjoying it a lot. SH2 original will always be great but this was awesome too. My opinion
@s.m.a.h6600
@s.m.a.h6600 3 ай бұрын
@@kuroe-chan5190 well my expectations were low But look what happened to Angela After 20 years u can see true emotions in her face and voice in original version But what I see in the new Angela is a fat teenage feminist who spends 6 hours in a fast food restaurant But actually Laura is perfect in the remake too.
@sillylittlesheepjax6009
@sillylittlesheepjax6009 3 ай бұрын
@@s.m.a.h6600 move on boomer, new gen loves remake
@Steven45355
@Steven45355 2 ай бұрын
hahaha did she despawn at the end? and what's up with the lazy voice acting? i can't take this remake serious Lol
@testtube173
@testtube173 3 ай бұрын
I have never heard a 19 year old sound like remake Angela.
@RubyLing_
@RubyLing_ 3 ай бұрын
there is a lot
@chillybitches
@chillybitches 3 ай бұрын
... that's very much how they sound. You're clearly a boomer.
@nostressjustcress-fr1uv
@nostressjustcress-fr1uv 3 ай бұрын
There are plenty of them (am 19 and was around plenty in college)
@Slaughter_Hill
@Slaughter_Hill 3 ай бұрын
Bro just admits he’s never been around girls. Literally every girl who is edgy sounds like that
@hectorjuarez730
@hectorjuarez730 2 ай бұрын
New version just sounds like she´s drunk and sad. The OG is a rollercoaster in every single moment. Nice remake, but could´ve been better this scene
@milesbbop9563
@milesbbop9563 2 ай бұрын
Her tone is boring AF with no range in the remake. That's it. It's like they told the actress "Your character is depressed." and that's it. They gave her a stereotypical tone. New generation of fans can only get into things at a surface level. They are unable to feel or understand anything unless it's cliche and stereotypical. You all should be disappointed you lack the understanding of humans. It's like this. If you people are not convinced, then it's not true to you that this person is going through something horrible. Modern fans - Depressed = sad and bored with no range to their tone because that's the only way a depressed person can be.
@DownUnder43
@DownUnder43 3 ай бұрын
They got a freaking trans to make this scene 🤦
@infiniteoctopaw
@infiniteoctopaw 3 ай бұрын
What does this mean?
@chillybitches
@chillybitches 3 ай бұрын
braindead comment, please up your IQ
@Slaughter_Hill
@Slaughter_Hill 3 ай бұрын
They got bros mom?
@javier9310
@javier9310 3 ай бұрын
The remake voice acting runs rings around the original one
@pirdbussy2815
@pirdbussy2815 2 ай бұрын
Remake is missing her child-like stunted maturity
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