How To Turn FROM A STOP On Your Motorcycle / MSF Motorcycle Test Techniques

[@DanDanTheFireman]

I might not be the best, but I will absolutely practice as much as I can!

[@VState60]

Keep practicing and it’s great you don’t have an ego about it. It is odd to teach others when unable to do something yourself.

[@popdogfool]

@@VState60 Shut up and practice! lol

[@freelance60]

What boots are you wearing in this vid bud, I need to get me some new ones and those boots are dope.

[@mececanu]

Sorry for replying here, but i didn't get the part where u said that giving a little throttle reduces the power to the back wheel. Please , care to explain a bit more on that matter?

[@btcepiphany]

Any tips for riding over speed bumps with a cruiser?

[@piggysister01]

I love your humility in admitting it's "a little nervewracking" as sometimes it can actually be offputting (for me at least) to see someone make it look too ridiculously easy (my interpretation: if I can't do it straightaway I'm just dumb..). I know that's mad logic, but the humanity of saying it's scary to start with makes me feel less bad about my nervousness, and so, more likely to try it!!

[@Faus4us]

I haven't even started riding yet but, I'm watching your videos and it's helping. I'm mentally practicing all this stuff everywhere I go. I can't wait to start riding and physically practicing!

[@DanDanTheFireman]

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[@tylerkimdura6690]

Faus4us nice! I bought my bike Jan 27th and already I’ve fallen off 3 times 😂

[@111rr5]

John Elway what bike?

[@theAverageAmericanTroy]

@@tylerkimdura6690 you might have gotten too much bike what did you get

[@tylerkimdura6690]

@@theAverageAmericanTroy haha nah it was only a 250cc dual sport. The first 2 times I downshifted and stalled the bike and the wheels locked so I fell. The third time I was riding around my neighborhood and I hit a small gravel patch turning lol.

[@CaneFu]

I have been riding for many years but I never quit reviewing the basics and trying to learn more as the price of not doing so is too great to pay.

[@ThatMetalhead018]

This was one of the things that made me fail my beginners riding course evaluation. hopefully, this information helps when I retake the course

[@iamtheiceman]

I still need to practice this a lot more because it feels unnatural to crank the steering all the way to one side and lean the bike over. Can you do a video about how to deal with traffic that is behind you when you are stopped at a light. sometimes I feel like I am being pressured to take off like lightning when the light turns green and when I take too long I feel the stress of trying to make my takeoff very quick. Maybe it is just in my head but it's like the traffic behind me wants me to hurry up and get going as fast as possible.

[@Sp3nny02]

That is 100% in your head. I remember when I was learning how to drive a car I used to get really nervous and anxious anytime someone would tailgate me and it would cause me to speed up. My mom taught me to focus on my own driving and to be aware of them but also ignore it at the same time. Basically just drive how you know how to and don’t let others affect you if you are driving the right way. Obviously motorcycle riders have to be much more aware and protective of themselves than others, but just drive how you would as if they weren’t there as long as it’s not dangerously slow

[@don8659]

Same thing here man. I usually end up stalling almost Everytime especially when I'm trying to turn left/right at the light. Straights aren't so bad but the turns get me every time

[@anoopko]

I had to watch the video twice cus I was admiring them boots 😎

[@QuadroNVS]

This is really my Achilles heal when it comes to riding. I will try this.

[@jessrivera3728]

you're the reason im getting ready to buy the Honda rebel 500 as a starter bike!!! excellent videos. All the way from NYC!! by the way..R.I.P to that cone lol

[@jslartey2]

How’s that rebel 500 treating you? I’ve got a rebel 250.

[@carrierobinson9442]

@@jslartey2 haha How is the Rebel 250? That's what I'm considering.

[@jslartey2]

Carrie Robinson it was super easy to learn how to ride on. Very light and comfortable. However, I’m already looking for a bike with a bit more power. The rebel 250 was really great for getting around my college town, but I moved to the suburbs and the roads are bigger and faster. So I’m looking to get a shadow 750

[@jslartey2]

Carrie Robinson although, I know a lot of women are fine with the rebel 250 as their main bike because the seat height makes it more comfortable for shorter riders, and the super light weight makes it easy to control.

[@benbendingrodriguez5572]

I started on the 250

[@uscrivera]

By far my biggest fear with the 2009 Sportster I have. It’s a heavy bike and I already laid it down on my right foot trying to catch myself. Dumb move. Pulled my big toe back and over extended it with the weight of the bike on my boot. I have a fear of making right turns for the sharp arc you need to execute. Almost to the point where I am scared to even ride with traffic anymore. But thank you for this video, huge help. God bless man. These tips are helping beginner riders like me get over their fears on these maneuvers.

[@nwalex904]

Is it common to be better at one turn over the other at first? Like I can do left turns no problem but turning right is a challenge for me

[@4pfBulmond]

I took the MSF course and the lat day, last excersice, after we had already finished our testing and all that, our coaches showed us this and man it really was nerve racking! I ended up dropping the bike and that was the only time! so close getting away with not dropping haha

[@saddlsor]

Video has the right concepts, but let's improve the terminology. Rather than "tilt" the handlebars, let's "TURN" the handlebars. Otherwise, tilt and lean may be confused. Just trying to help. Keep up the good work!

[@atfortyfivemotovlog5814]

Nice video, just realize now this turn from stop is really difficult and need to practice. 90deg turn still easy but u-turn from stop os more challenging. I dropped my bike durinng my weekend training :(. Doing similar routine but u-turn from stop... thanks DDFM for sharing

[@pinnedthrottle7690]

Is it common to struggle with tight right handed turns? I’m struggling with any slow tight right handed turns. Left handed just seems more natural for some reason.

[@sugamai]

Late reply but it's hard for me too. I think in one of his video he explained that a lot of people also struggle with slow right turns because of the throttle being closer to you

[@pinnedthrottle7690]

@@sugamai I’ve come to that conclusion as well. I noticed a lot of people having that issue around the world and the only thing really in common was where the throttle is positioned, so that’s been my hypothesis for the last 4-5 months lol

[@simonyeager6062]

I cannot thank you enough for what you do. You're a treasure for the motorcycle community.

[@laurenml1222]

Great instruction! I’ve been riding 10 years now but haven’t done much in the last two years so I’m needing some practice before I get out on the road this season. I’ll be practicing today after work.. riding my Softtail Deluxe

[@StruddleToaster]

This is hella dope man, just started riding early this year and by far this has got to be the video that’s given me the most confidence to tackle turning with great instructions keep it up!

[@alex96610]

Dude this was a clean video, I like how you put the camera in front of you, instead of POV. Also my hands were sweating cause right hand turns are harder for, awesome video man, thanks!

[@savageminion5257]

Do you have a video teaching the same thing but stopping? I know your always supposed to break with the handle bars straight but what if you have to slow down while turning right? I dropped my bike yesterday pulling out a lot doing this.

[@wes326]

Good video. I used to do this well on a 250 DS, now I have a 1500 cruiser so it's a little more itimidating. Turn, lean, and power. Not sure if the weight on the outside peg does much.

[@don8659]

I keep stalling my damn bike on right turn stops. Normal take offs are no problem but for some reason I can't not stall when turning 😤

[@Truhsty]

Sameeeee. Did you figure it out ? Cus I can’t tell the trick from this video. He brings it up but doesn’t clarify

[@atheistmetal1]

I like what you said at the end- practice to increase confidence and thus safety

[@SyrusLang]

what if there is a hill that you're driving onto and it's sloped? Still apply counterbalance?

[@thomaswagner1761]

That is a great question. Remember that you are counter balancing to the vector of gravity, not the slope. The hard part is that the slope can fool your eyes. Practice as much as you can on level ground and your butt will develop a feel for your bike first, then graduate to slopes. Just be aware that the feel doesn't translate 100% from say a full dress cruiser to a naked sport bike. It's close enough to get you in trouble at parking lot speeds. Again, awesome question! P.S. - on a slope you lose clearance on the uphill side. You can be perfectly balance and still run aground.

[@mesummika569]

I love the ideas of what to practice and the advice. I adore that you show us that we are all learning. To many times just see the best of best attempts from somebody and not what can be learned from real practice. Thank you.

[@mushfiq1991]

i think the best way to learn and practise these things in a smaller bike cause they are much forgiving and light weight than litre bikes or even the one you are on @DanDanTheFireman

[@bris3344]

Lupe got his posture better he back to being ballin -Cris

[@Recycledhooligan]

I’m not saying that this isn’t helpful,it is but at least for me & I’m sure others can agree fear is the biggest obstacle to overcome when it comes to anything concerning riding. I’m trying to learn how to ride my motorcycle on my own & I get overwhelmed by how much I don’t know.thanks for the videos

[@zaiamibodrudduza]

I stay way out, in Bangladesh, even I am relearning riding bikes from these videos! Thanks for the good work brother!

[@aetscout]

Just picked up a used forty eight a few weeks ago i took the msf course months ago your videos are great for beginners and teach good fundamentals

[@andrewyu3]

Great video! You do a great job talking about the bike technique, but I really enjoyed you talking about the emotional experience for beginner riders (such as my myself) practicing for the first time.

[@jamesherrington5606]

Thank you for posting this. One of the areas where I lack confidence is pulling into the far right lane from a driveway to a highway access road.

[@Truhsty]

What do you mean by apply pressure ? I keep stalling on my turns. Taking off straight is fine but I can’t get it right with turns. What am I missing ?

[@jerodkenoyer270]

Hey Dan, i must disagree. Yes sometimes you are an expert. Tons of education, practice experience through taking courses and applying it all. You can be an expert. Watch MotoAmerica/GP some of those classes of racing are expert. However no riding condition or rider is infallible. We all can make a mistake. Hopefully it's not one that kills us. Thanks man

[@davidharrington1133]

No front mudguard? I guess it never rains there, in the UK I would be permanently mud caked

[@run2thefight]

Returning to riding after 15 years my bike is big and heavy. And if I was turn my handlebars like that I’m worried it will fall over and I’ll get injured and mess up my bike or worse “ be embarrassed “ 😂 For some reason at 50 the bikes feel heavier than when I was in my thirties. Smile. Thanks for the good videos!

[@rondwilliscorpuz2772]

Practiced this and my U-turns for a couple of hours right after i got my license and my bike. Thanks

[@kramnam4716]

Thanks for being a bit crap as well and not doing it perfectly every time !

[@jameswisceski7728]

Low sided on my bike 2 times in one day because I struggled to throttle off a stop and making a corner hopefully this helps!!

[@SurgingApocalypse]

So that's why I'm not able to turn, I'm too afraid to turn the handle bar all the way!

[@aprilperez5559]

Oh hell no, I’m broken and maybe too intimidated, in the distance of your turn, I ask my husband to back my bike out of a parking spot

[@brc_deoz]

It’s a little nerve wrecking?? I am TERRIFIED when I practice this 😂

[@ErickNagy]

Hey Dan! Thanks a lot for your videos, they help me big time. Question, how do you counter balance a motorcycle with the pegs positioned forward? 🤔

[@DanDanTheFireman]

Much harder to do, one thing that will help is moving one cheek off the seat to the opposite side.

[@ErickNagy]

@@DanDanTheFireman thanks man! Just did some sharp turns and figure 8 practice and it works! 👍

[@mikeanderson2152]

@@DanDanTheFireman im taking the MSF course soon i hope ill be able to do this on the course

[@swiger01ify]

The first time he hit the cone his reaction was amazing

[@RurikVonElenorNeologik]

I was looking for this video. I have a cruiser like bike, and all the videos i found uses those street like bikes, and of course those have a better turn. This video is so helpful

[@freelance60]

@DanDanTheFireman What boots are those you're wearing they're awesome!

[@k96themovie]

How do you do right turn with right foot on peg (road test, can’t put right foot down)

[@jilliandesantis3287]

When I’m riding on the road and going to make a turn onto another street should I be braking in the turn

[@chiefthunder77]

Can you show these techniques on a bike with forward controls

[@pvc3348]

6:33 what was the mistake? Not leaning far enough?

[@jarydjackson8531]

I always have to kick a foot out. Practice makes perfect!

[@tahirpatan]

This! The only time I've fallen off when learning

[@marcosca2932]

One on each side for me 😡

[@lindawalker1689]

This was soooo helpful for me! Thank you 🎉

[@lakwatserongkuripot7351]

this is a great video for a beginner like me.tnk u so much bro

[@firegaming9672]

summit1g what are you doing on a motorcycle? :D

[@sojournerstewart9678]

This will be my practice tomorrow

[@crosscountrycruisHer]

Practice, practice, practice, quite an issue for me.😄👌👏👏👏🏍

[@micheal49]

Where do you buy those little orange cone things?

[@shaspaz]

Thanks Dan this is most helpful

[@victoreliasphotography6987]

That third cone is calling his attorney! ha, ha

[@lulucarrera7312]

My kind of video, thank you

[@DanDanTheFireman]

Yay! Be sure to share if you know someone that might need this help!

[@nja3224]

New rider here, struggling with low speed maneuvers such as this, but you don’t know how comforting it is for me to see a rider such as yourself miss the mark on occasion. It tells me practice is needed and nothing is a given. Riding a bike is so vastly different from a car, where you’ll come across different situations you have to adapt to maybe even on a daily basis, that you don’t have to be conned with when your driving a car.

[@ginamcclure463]

The bike class instructor didn't give a person time to think about it. He kept yelling, 'Go Go Go'! He made it dangerous. A bike instructor should not be a football coach because he drilled us, not instructed us. I dropped out because it was dangerous and we were dropping our bikes.

[@ironhorsegladiator5034]

This method will require more skills if you are not an average height person on a tall heavy 700 pound adventure bike that WILL FALL once you lean it a little... ;-)

[@nunofernandes7643]

I drop my bike practicing that. R.I.P. brake lever x) I made the turn too sharp, but at the least learn something :)

[@rtogurl]

I did the same thing about 6 weeks ago. I bought a new set of levers for dirt bikes. These bend incase the bike falls. They look awesome too.

[@Injamben]

Oof. Me too. I decided i didnt need to practice. My brake lever felt the pain on my first right turn

[@sojournerstewart9678]

Wow I LOVEEEE THISSS!!!

[@dagger_4d]

This is harder than it looks

[@PublikSerpnt]

Okay, so I have a question. I know that you don't want to shift in a turn, however when I stop at a stop sign, I start out in 1st gear and halfway through the turn I change into 2nd because I feel like I am over exerting the engine and its time to shift up. Should I just push through the 1st and complete the turn and then shift up to 2nd? I feel like its very jerky when I do that. I would appreciate any tips!

[@bluegtturbo]

As a newbie I'm watching lots of these instructional videos. There is one recurrent theme... Namely, if the bike is moving both feet should be up. Looks very difficult to achieve this in a sharp turn from stopped.

[@anna2skadoo]

Man I need to take my dumbest another MSF course. The intermediate one. Passed the beginner one. But I need this practice. But I feel like doing it on my own I'd proply end up picking up bad habits.

[@jhyatt2544]

Dropped my bike the other day because of doing this wrong. Great content. Luckily rode away just a hurt ego lol.

[@cryptout]

If you cannot do this without thinking you probably should not be riding a bike. Or at least practice in a private place without traffic until you can do figure 8s and all other basic slow speed basics.

[@fallinginthed33p]

How about if you have to brake using the front brakes? The bike would definitely tip over. Once you start the turn, you're committed to moving off and keeping the bike straight.

[@Latexghost]

The story of my life at the moment XD

[@brotherbread6549]

Brother, preloading is the way to go. It's how chp are trained. Since switching to this technique, I've become a way better slow speed motorcyclist. 30 years of all kinds of riding and feel like I'm I total control now. check out Robert Simmons on yt!

[@nicksantoro7279]

Came and found this video because not turning from a stop properly is exactly why my bike is in the shop now

[@MrBackslider1]

Got a M8 hydraulic clutch and having a hard time finding/holding on to the friction zone. for some reason the friction zone is after the clutch is fully open. I like the cable clutch much better. been riding my R1 for years but when it comes to the Street Glide, the clutch is wayyyy different. nice vid.

[@kenkastle5970]

That poor little cone..

[@crizzlytv6554]

Im so glad you made a mistake. It makes me feel more confident Even with experience mistakes are made. I’ve got to practice more 🤙🏻

[@NEX1-t7j]

Do license cours teach those in the us ? In every eu country its one of the first thing you learn to do with A2 permit.

[@SlydogFPS]

Good video ! I try to make time to improve my low speed skills and challenge myself. Low speed riding skills are like Tai Chi of riding. You don't have it mastered if you can't do it slow. I am a returning rider making the transition from 1982 RM465 to Suzuki Boulevard C50T over twice the weight and a bit longer Wheel base is probably close to the same.

[@MartyDickRider]

I just drove a motorcycle for the first time, everyone said I was a natural because I was able to get pretty much everything down right away. The one thing that scared the crap out of me was a left turn into traffic after a stop sign. This video was exactly what I needed, thanks

[@thecappy]

Sucks being in Western Pa every stop is either up or down hill. Lefts are okay because I can use the rear brake. Leaving my driveway is an up hill right then another uphill right at the corner. I live on a corner lot.

[@noelwhyte9834]

I plan on getting my first motorcycle soon. And I'll buy some cones and practise all your lessons when I do. Just wanted to say thank you for all the lessons. I know them conceptually, can't wait to learn them experientially. 👊🏾👍🏾🇯🇲🏍️🙏

[@stefanovon]

That poor cone :-)

[@nevercontact]

Coffee cup. What an analogy. Dan the Man. Thank you sir for helping the beginners

[@ezekielajibade7742]

That poor cone

[@ioandragulescu6063]

pfff, this reminds me of a turn I have to make sometimes, right side, on an incline with reverse camber and the street merges with a main road at a narrow angle so I have to look over my left shoulder more than 90 degrees, it's a damn bitch of a turn, especially since I only started riding about 3 weeks ago ....

[@kennethboss2549]

I need to practice! Approximately Forty years on a motorcycle and still can’t get it right!

[@thankthemosthighgod9135]

Fall because of gravity 😂😂 @ 6:22 It would fall because of the weight leaning favorably to one side.

[@dukesublime4178]

You sir are an absolute gentleman. Thanks so much for your videos

[@carlanthonyholmes2162]

Some bikes also have a crappy turning circle too. This is good to find out how tight or not yours is.

[@kruzader]

Hey Dan Dan, i been trying to figure out how to get good sound on my videos when wearing a helmet and riding. Any advice?

[@BaltiWhiskeyHands]

Damn I wish I watched this before I failed my eval 🥺😭

[@Freedomridingcompany]

Excellent video practice section. These are the very things that people need to practice. Thank You!

[@2bstiff584]

he failed that first turn his back tire ran over the white pant for the parking spot

[@nicolasb5613]

Thanknyou

[@abalen5932]

I am going to try this. I usually just put my right foot down and ease on the throttle...then counter lean through the tight turns.

[@bustertandfriendstv]

That poor cone needs a medic. But good info. Thanks for your help.

[@BWJ040895]

"not a very nimble bike but it's pretty nimble" hmmmmm