Daniel Carlat - Unhinged: The Trouble with Psychiatry

Psychiatrist and mental health journalist Daniel J. Carlat discusses the current state of the field of psychiatry and his book, "Unhinged: The Trouble with Psychiatry-A Doctor's Revelations About a Profession in Crisis." Presented by Harvard Book Store. Carlat argues that psychiatrists have settled for treating symptoms rather than causes, and are over-prescribing medication when therapeutic counseling would be more appropriate. More lectures at forum-network.org
This talk was taped on June 2, 2010.

[@allenkracalik7662]

Carlot handles this issue with kid gloves, not surprising, given his position. There is NO verifiable evidence whatsoever that these so-called "psychotropic" drugs are effective, and there is an OVERWHELMING body of evidence that they are harmful and dangerous, not only to those who take them, but to those around them as well. Their production and marketing should be legally terminated.

[@jameshadfield5624]

Agreed. the word "Should" has many connotations, almost as many as "If". We know that money makes the world go around. So these glorified drug dealers aren't found on street corners but fancy Offices.its as likely to stop as the next war or as congress is to impose Term limits!

[@damien8480]

I knew I'd need the word elucidated eventually....kudos 🍻

[@edwardlouisbernays2469]

@Allen Kracalik He is a lunatic charlatan anti psych drug money monger! His ideas are silliness, moronic ideolog simpering and murderous. I am 73 Years old. Was saved by Psych-Drugs. Without Psych Drugs I would have never lived to be 73 Years old. I was severely schizophrenic in 1959, was in State Hospitals until 1990, Recovered and now am happily waiting to Die at a Good Old Age! (Yet to be happened) This moron if allowed to influence people will actually INCREASE DEATH, MISERY, SUICODE and POLICE KILLING MENTAL PATIENTS,

[@a.randomjack6661]

July 2022. *No evidence that depression is caused by low serotonin levels, finds comprehensive review* This study was in the scientific journal Nature, which is certainly one of the most prominent scientific journal out there.

[@barneyronnie]

@@a.randomjack6661 This doesn't surprise me at all. Why would ONE neurotransmitter be responsible for an entire spectrum of moods.

[@goodgrief888]

I was misdiagnosed with bipolar disorder 2 (depression with low “manic” periods,) and placed on Paxil for depression, which I was on for 20 years before it was discovered that my “cycling moods” coincided with my menstrual periods - something no psychiatrist ever bothered to ask me about or make any kind of connection to. I also had PTSD related to traumatic events around my childhood that my prescribing psychiatrist(s) never bothered to get to finding out about, due to asking me a few questions about symptoms and then throwing an Rx my way based on those symptoms. I feel cheated out of many years of being treated for the wrong condition with incorrect medications because SSRIs were being pushed so heavily, so it was easy to diagnose every single patient that came in for help with various conditions with whatever could be “treated” with an SSRI. I had one psychiatrist that kept trying to change up my meds to Lithium, Neurontin, Depakote, Lamictal, etc, creating a very unstable mood situation for me while she experimented on me trying to get the meds right, since I had been diagnosed with bipolar. She would switch my meds every few weeks when these inevitably made me feel worse or didn’t work, instead of ever thinking that maybe the diagnosis wasn’t correct and there was an actual medical issue combined with actual issues that occurred that therapy could help with instead.

[@jeanthornton2441]

Glad you are still alive and was able to get away from the fraud

[@martaaltheide5146]

In long term care, our elderly may be on 19 different meds. On asking their physicians for a re-evaluation, to discontinue some, the pushback was usually “ What medical school did you attend?” Follow the $.

[@beakytwitch7905]

Simply stop taking...

[@margyeoman3564]

I went after long term care about psych meds my aged mother was put on. No consult with family. When I found out about this, I did my research, visited the doctor servicing the facility with the results. They were using a med for age related dementia, contra- indicated for age related dementia. He read the research which was from the creator of the drug. I told him to stop giving my mother any psych drugs. Which being a very experienced doctor , he immediately stopped. My mom was fine from then on.

[@beannamated]

@@beakytwitch7905 in facilities, it's very difficult to refuse without a full review with the treatment team, including the Consultant Pharmacist and nursing staff. It's also extremely dangerous to stop psych drugs cold turkey. I know many people who have died doing that. These drugs affect all body systems, including cardiovascular, endocrine, neuro, etc. They REALLY mess with hormones, especially adrenals and cortisol, which the body cannot function without. Please be careful.

[@beannamated]

Contact the local Ombudsman. The Consultant Pharmacist should also be helpful if they have integrity.

[@beannamated]

@@margyeoman3564 I'm sincerely glad that she's ok, but this is extremely dangerous to do. The drugs make continuous changes to the body while taking them: cardiovascular system, endocrine system, neuromuscular, brain, etc. They should be slowly weaned off. I've lost several people to these drugs, both taking and stopping them. WMD

[@Blonde111]

Almost everyone I have known cannot cope with angst… if you are sad or upset or even angry, the first thing people say is “ go see a therapist, have them put you on a pill” … no one wants to listen. Even therapists run out of ideas and suggest meds. It’s very disheartening.

[@theresekirkpatrick3337]

I agree with psychiatrist should also do therapy. I rode the pharmaceutical roller coaster for decades. Did independent therapy and nothing helped. If anything the drugs made me worse. January 2018 I found a good psychiatrist to ween me off everything I was on a ton of stuff. It’s been a long difficult journey taking my mind and body back from the damage done. Most of these drugs are not studied long term or how difficult it is to get off them when they’re not working.

[@tatianahawaii13]

♥️

[@cheylou1]

❤️

[@beannamated]

I'm so glad that you found a good psychiatrist to wean you off. Some people quit cold turkey and that is extremely dangerous. I'm glad you are well ❤️

[@nicmart]

Do you agree that everyone should be able to refuse psychiatric treatment?

[@lisalong9064]

Everyone knows that psychiatrists follow the medical model, thereby treating all symptoms with meds. Most people don't need meds. The volume of med prescriptions is a dereliction of duties.

[@kathyadair8552]

Hear, Hear!! Just JAM IN More Clients and, Here's, your Rx/Z*!!!

[@annetteyoutube742]

6:50 "Something has happened (to psychiatry) over the past several years in which we have given up therapy, and we're doing mostly medications." --> Perhaps it's lobbyists and pharmaceutical companies?

[@gaiakittywell-beloved3873]

It’s been like this for as long as I remember ….I experienced the truth of the medicine pushers from being a child age 9 put on Valium for early PMT Through meeting a psychiatrist who didn’t even look up from the notes or ask me anything Whenever I said I didn’t want medication I was treated badly by doctors who seemed to thing that my saying no to their drugs was something to be punished Once I went in to a doctor with the medication she had prescribed whose first side effect was increased risk of suicide and then a long list of mightily unpleasant others I read this to the doctor and she said ‘oh I never read those, I don’t even know where they get that information’ ‘Research probably’ I replied and left, there were also incidents of abuse of power in the field of NHS psychologists, they could get away with arrogance, disconnected and bad behaviour, because they can’t be challenged easily, I am still hearing horror stories about the psychiatric services in the NHS, underfinanced and under pressure, medication is the most time effective immediate solution The whole industry in formal non intergrated forms is missing the boat with the new developments in such as somatic work etc

[@gaiakittywell-beloved3873]

Thank you Daniel, this must be said from within the profession

[@Juliemadblogger]

Thank you. I recently fled the Boston area, where Harvard rules the medical scene and seems to be expanding. I, too, was whistleblower. There is no protection for patient whistleblowers. They usually arrest us or commit us to institutions. I know the medical regime terrorizes any doctor who speaks out. I feel sorry for those doctors who are helpless to change things for fear of retaliation.

[@Juliemadblogger]

+Sandy Villarreal Sandy, thanks so much for asking. A patient whistleblower is one who speaks out about abuses or wrongdoing they witness. Be very careful. Whistleblowers end up facing retaliation, usually completely illegal. And they WILL do everything they can to stop you. I blew the whistle on MGH and after that, you bet the abuse got much worse in their attempt to keep everything under wraps. They can even illegally lock people up and force drug them. When your community MH center silenced you, that was a taste of \ the retaliatioin, and be forwarned, they will stop at nothing.

[@Juliemadblogger]

Massachusetts General Hospital. Me too, over three decades of brainwashing, drugs, and torture. I write for MIA and I blog, too. Originally from Massachusetts. I have a book out, which was my master's thesis, and another coming out soon. BTW, I have a master's degree in creative writing and I offer free writing help to any psych survivor. Check out my blog. juliemadblogger dot wordpress dot com.

[@Juliemadblogger]

+Sandy Villarreal Sandy write to me at julie at juliegreene dot net.

[@leoniddavidov5863]

Are doctors afraid of retribution? Does it happen?

[@jameshadfield5624]

This Sounds similar to that "Blue Line" of the police. that is following the routine of the way things have Always been done and not pausing to adequately evaluate a particular situation. so it becomes very disturbing that the people we're taught to trust for help, become the ones we should be on guard against in the First place. It was tragically ironic that when the highly paid and visible athletes started to protest the Ongoing violence that the police were inflicting on its citizens (disproportionately of color) they were labeled with the stigma of somehow being unpatriotic, ungrateful or misinformed! And then that cop took a KNEE to end a man's Life!

[@4TIMESAYEAR]

I wish people would realize that a pill isn't going to fix any emotional problems they may have; it won't fix relationship problems. Depression is part of the human condition.We're supposed to have emotions and sometimes they get the best of us, but they are not "mental illnesses". I appreciate so much psychiatrists and psychologists exposing the myth of biopsychiatry. Something can be going on in a patient's life that is a real, physical problem (like a next door neighbor making noise at all times of the day or night causing sleep deprivation) but when the doctor has a conflict of interest, they will say that you're suffering from psychosis, i.e., you're hearing things that aren't real and try to make you take an anti-psychotic which will make you sick and do nothing about the problem. Unfortunately primary care physicians think that they should be able to prescribe and "diagnose" these drugs as well. People buy into this model, too, denying any relationship issues they have, or any behavioral problems they need to take responsibility for. Btw, I would like to know how doctors can tell when something is a learned behavior (as I have seen in myself and others when they tell me about their parents' behaviors) and inherited conditions. The truth is they can't. The truth is it's most likely learned behavior.

[@averayugen8462]

Genetics is blamed for too much learned behavior and if people then take drugs for that...how do we expect them to behave. Like crazy defeated people...cool...more grist 4 the mill....baaaaad model!!

[@marhar1172]

Great comment, i agree 100%. I'm forever being told by "well meaning friends" that i might need medication for anxiety. I said i refuse to take it but feel free to end the friendship if i become a mean angry person (which i am not). I have had a very stressful life, as most people have and just want to allow myself the luxury of being in the pain and learning to live with it rather than walking around like a zombie and numb to life. I believe we all have the ability to deal with our traumas and life's difficulties but we need trained therapists to help us not these legal drug dealers who have financial incentives in trying to "help" their patients.

[@janetmarmaro8269]

Enlightenment. I believe there was a time when a primary care dr. was unable to prescribe drugs for a mental condition.

[@susanmercurio1060]

I agree! In my college classes, I discovered that psychology assumes that mental health problems are all in the sufferers' head (thanks, Freud!), while sociology looks at small group interactions. Since I had recognized that my struggles were caused by interactions with the environment around me (I have PTSD), I felt that this was a more accurate picture of where my problems came from.

[@bhadresh1135]

❤

[@RomeshSenewiratne-Alagaratnam]

He said he worked for Wyeth "pushing" Efexor. Refreshingly honest. His candour is commendable as is his promotion of talk therapies and his explanation of the faults of psychiatric obsession with drug treatments, but he remains a true beliver in the flawed disease label model of psychiatry.

[@erstwhile3793]

Came to say essentially this. Also, that I’m disappointed that he apparently is ignorant of either the findings, or the implications of decades of research into trauma and it’s causes and potential effective treatment. It doesn’t seem as if he’s looked beyond the narrow confines of the paradigm he was given in medical school. He challenges the biological = pharmaceutical model of disease/treatment, which is a good thing. It’s hopefully opening some minds. However, one big reason we have this model in the first place, is because these other, conventional treatment methods he’s referring to, such as talk therapy, while they can offer some helpful support and even alter a person’s state and understanding to a certain extent, have almost never generated areal cure of the disorder a patient is suffering from. That’s why the drugs came about in the first place. Therapy just wasn’t working to truly relieve the suffering of most people with serious mood and emotional disorders. It’s not going to, now, either. Not until the work of researchers such as Porges, van der Kolk, Levine, and others in the realm of trauma work, become integrated into the system of psychological education and professional practice.

[@billybandyk0720]

@@erstwhile3793 W/all due respect; u referred 2 (talk) therapy being ineffective hence how psych meds were developed as "treatment" 4 mental health conditions. I understand the point that u r addressing. However; it seems like there's a "pot calling the kettle black"-type mentality as it pertains 2 ignorance by u. The part that I take xcption 2 would b the (implied) efficacy of psych meds. I might b misinterpreting ur comment but based on my personal experiences (30+ different psych meds ovr a 40+ yr period starting w/Ritalin @ age 4 in 1971 [I'm 55 now; 56 on 7/20/2023] b4 becoming psych med-free on 1/1/2017), (talk) therapy has been much more effective than psych RE: my issues. However, (talk) therapy can only b effective when mental health professionals r truly non-judgmental & non-accusatory by treating the REAL issues like TRIGGERS (e.g.: abuse [verbal, mental, emotional, financial, sexual, etc.], bullying, & harassment committed against some1 by other people) that cause mental health conditions. In other words, some mental health pros might treat the triggers as an unprovoked anger problem instead of what really causes the issues as a4mentioned. Hence, my interpretation of ur comment. W/that said, I believe Dr. Carlat does acknowledge & recognize those triggers yet u somehow believe he's ignorant on the matter. Hence; the "pot calling the kettle black" reference by me.

[@robt8042]

@@billybandyk0720 You misinterpret what he's saying. Do some research on Polyvagal Theory for your own good.

[@billybandyk0720]

@@robt8042 I slrdy have. U took my comment out of context so GET UR FACTS STR8 B4 FALSELY ACCUSING ME OF FBS!!!! I was on 30+ different psych meds (starting w/Ritalin @ age 4 in 1971) ovr a 40+ yr period b4 becoming psych med-free (4 the better, mind u) on 1/1/2017. There4; DO UR FUCKIN' RESEARCH RE: THE HARMFUL EFFECTS CAUSED BY PSYCH MEDS!!!!! IT'S 4 OWN GOOD!!!!! Sorry, Robbie; I MISINTERPRETED NOTHING @ ALL!!!!!

[@robt8042]

@@billybandyk0720 ok good luck with your victim status

[@Aluminata]

Psychiatry has been hi-jacked and morphed into a whole new industry.

[@kirstinstrand6292]

Absolutely.

[@terrybu]

This is an amazing video by Dr. Carlat ... Hi Dr.Carlat, I've incorporated your valuable teachings into my own nonfiction work dealing with my family's experiences with depression and how little help we received from psychiatrists at the time who blamed everything on "chemical imbalance in the brain' and kept pushing us Lexapro without adequate therapy ... i really appreciate this work and Dr. Carlat

[@jy7383]

This is an honest attempt to tackle an all too common problem. i speak from experience as a qualified therapist who has experienced both sides of this coin ---- I qualified in 1957 --- Oxford --- then accidentally was drugged for five years on Lithium --- in 1981 - 1986 - then six years on Monosodium Glutimate with dire results in 2007 --- since June 2020 have had no NHS support ---- no-one's fault ---- but over 40 years of stress is taking its physical toll --- too much to describe here ----- but I have my medication in a dossette box that describes me as a "suitable container' for the drug barons. May GOD have mercy have mercy on them --- it is never too late. Or is it ?

[@wallybingbang4350]

You were prescribed Monosodium Glutamate? That's a flavour enhancer!

[@edwardlouisbernays2469]

He is a lunatic charlatan anti psych drug money monger! His ideas are silliness, moronic ideolog simpering and murderous. I am 73 Years old. Was saved by Psych-Drugs. Without Psych Drugs I would have never lived to be 73 Years old. I was severely schizophrenic in 1959, was in State Hospitals until 1990, Recovered and now am happily waiting to Die at a Good Old Age! (Yet to be happened) This moron if allowed to influence people will actually INCREASE DEATH, MISERY, SUICODE and POLICE KILLING MENTAL PATIENTS,

[@mostafasherif9209]

i hope all the best to u....

[@jeanthornton2441]

Sad to hear.

[@kimlec3592]

@@wallybingbang4350 well spotted...the writer may have misnamed the med...🤔

[@sheilasmith7779]

The move away from psychotherapy happened with the HMO intrusion into the field. It was a cost reduction move by insurance companys.

[@billybandyk0720]

Yup; so much easier 2 medic8 than communic8.

[@clemdane]

Effexor is awful. I was on it for a while and it was nearly impossible to get off of. I don't think it actually helped me, but it created a dependency in the form of the violent withdrawal symptoms that taking the drug for a while creates. Bear in mind these withdrawal symptoms have nothing to do with losing any good effects that it had on the underlying depression. These are drug-created withdrawal symptom that made you stay on the drug only because you can't face the long period of unpleasantness that it took to get off the drug. One doctor told me it would likely take a full year until I had recovered from the withdrawal effects. He was right. I lived in fear of losing my job and not being able to get the prescription anymore.

[@sheilasmith7779]

I retired in the fall of 2017, after 32 years as a psychotherapist, an LCSW, to be precise. Diagnoses are subject to fads. For years every patient was BPD, then it was Major Depressive Disorder, then it was ADD. For the last 10-15 years it has been Bipolar Disorder, ADD and PTSD. 3 things to consider: 1. A diagnosis is a subjective opinion by the therapist or doctor 2. For the provider to be reimbursed by insurance, there must be a DSM IV-V diagnosis. 3. A diagnosis, does not inform what treatment is best. It's just a subjective label that describes a cluster of symptoms, which may or may not be accurate. PTSD: If it seems reasonable that PTSD is an accurate diagnosis, the most effective treatment ( studies indicate) is EMDR ( go look what it is) BUT, this treatment must be done by a therapist trained in EMDR, and a very specific protocol must be followed. Unlike other therapies, a create approach, should never be used with EMDR; no improvising. Bipolar: 1st, in actuality, it's among the rarer mental illnesses, despite the fact that huge numbers of people self diagnose or treating practitioners diagnose. All individuals that experience chronic anxiety will also experience some depression. It's a natural cycle. This does not mean the person has Bipolar. Bipolar has very severe and prolonged mood shifts. The body will shift from the one extreme or to the opposite mood. It's natural, although a troubling process of homeostasis. Find a therapist that is looking for underlying causes, rather than symptom relief. Find a therapist that will provide on visit 2 or 3, what the treatment plan is. What will successful treatment look like, or in what way will the patients day to day functioning be different? This is why the goal of the patient is important to establish early on. If the moon is your goal, you will need a rocket ship, NOT, a bus. A lack of a definitive goal is the single most frequent cause of treatment failure. The therapist purpose in not to listen, nod, hold your hand, while repeating, " I understand." Treatment sucess depends on a dynamic interactive relationship, with observable change. I conclude with this: An effective therapist has far more talent than skill. They intuitively understand human nature, are the best detectives, and are dedicated to resolving the root cause.

[@FreeJulianAssange23]

A Psychiatrist sent me for EDMR and the Psychologist said I wasn’t ready and wouldn’t do it. I’m guessing most people have the same problem.

[@sheilasmith7779]

@@FreeJulianAssange23 That's a terrible lie. The psychologist DID NOT know HOW to do EMDR. Every clinician in our clinic was trained in EMDR. It was the only treatment used for PTSD, and there is no right time to use it. Keep looking for a trained provider.

[@kirstinstrand6292]

Sheila Smith; I tried several Therapists, and finally decided on self isolation and self analysis. It's my belief that we must cure ourselves; if we are fortunate we will find a professional who understands more then we do, about our crisis.

[@sheilasmith7779]

@@kirstinstrand6292 True.

[@MotorcyclePhaedrus]

I work as a social worker in Scandinavia. It has taken me a long time to question the treatment regime that i paricipated in. I am more sceptical today, and i dont envy the job of a psychiatrist, especially if you are a person with integrity. There is a whole lot of shame and denial in this critical field. My experience is that change only comes from significant healthcare/judicial reform.

[@billybandyk0720]

Mr. Watson; SPOT-ON U R RE: healthcare/judicial reform. Part of the judicial reform aspect must include provisions as 2 NOT UNILATERALLY IMPOSE THEIR (the judges') WILL WHERE IT BLATANTLY VIOL8S HUMAN/CIVIL RIGHTS when imposing court-ordered mental health treatment. Here in Michigan (where reside); the Probate Courts (in all 83 counties) act as the DE-FACTO SUPREME COURT OF MENTAL HEALTH!!!!! Whatever the ruling is (especially RE: court-ordered mental health treatment) CANNOT B APPEALED. Also, a court order that hospitalizes an individual (it happened 2 me in 1996) becomes a part of the LEIN (Law Enforcement Information Network) REGARDLESS of whether the court order came from Criminal (i.e.: District, Circuit, etc.) or Probate (most often occuring there). Even a person w/a clean criminal record can b ruined by a judge's order involving mental health treatment. THAT aspect must b addressed bc any court/legal documents (which r public domain) that classifies an individual as "M.I." (i.e.: mentally ill" &/or [having a] "mental illness(es)") subjects that individual 2 something called "mental profiling" (similar 2 racial profiling xcpt it pertains 2 some1's mental health). That, in turn, BLATANTLY FLOUTS any privacy RE: mental health records. Yes; transparency's paramount here but how can we achieve proper reform w/o trampling & infringing on an individual's human/civil rights?

[@sebastianliwinski222]

Apparently Sweden has the best approach to treating Mental health issues in the World.

[@RB-jt4jm]

Where did Carlat get the idea that antidepressants are particulary effective? As far as I know, the litterature states otherwise.

[@michmonty95]

Painful cognitive dissonance whenever he’s confronted with evidence that he’s not only wasted all the time & resources invested in medical training in pursuing this pseudoscientific offshoot & not only that he has failed to be of use but has likely done significant harm to patients? Obviously buys a nice suit and tie and sense of professional elitism though.

[@nicmart]

He’s marginally different than the typical psychiatrist, but not importantly so. His complaints are at the margins; he doesn’t challenge the fallacious premises of psychiatry.

[@prestonphelps1649]

I worked in this field for several decades. I'd say meds can be helpful severe psychosis.....but the majority of less severe cases no. The meds are just so loaded with side effects,.

[@tinamahler-worth8989]

How do the psychiatrists themselves feel about being mostly just pill pushers? I think they would be yearning for a larger role.

[@markymark9176]

They get good money for pill pushing

[@nicmart]

The “essential purpose” of psychiatry has always been social control. Whether it relies on imprisonment in mental “hospitals" or in drug-induced hazes hardly matters. Before even watching this I am confident that Carlat is not opposed to coercive treatment. Anyone who wants to read a serious critique of psychiatry should grab a copy of Thomas Szasz’s Insanity: The Idea and it’s Consequences.

[@frlipa]

How do you (or Szasz for that matter) suggest we go about handling for example acute agitated psychosis. As far as I know Szasz makes an argument that such a phenomenon does not exist. Anyone who has seen it with their own eyes can hardly be persuaded by such an argument. So please enlighten since you fancy yourself as someone who knows what he's talking about.

[@nicmart]

@@frlipa You can read Szasz for his answer to that question since he fancied himself someone who knew what he was talking about

[@milosvelickovic4381]

@@frlipa define psychosis for me so i can answer

[@jonniricard5383]

@@frlipa That is false. He did not say that. Read it again.

[@soilmanted]

@@frlipa Strawman argument. Szasz has never claimed that agitated behaviors do not exist. He has simply said that psychiatrists, many psychiatrists, have created a mythology around abnormal behavior, and that have created a "justificatory rhetoric" around such behaviors, that they use to justify using fraud and force to control it. He hasn't said that mental illness does not exist. He has made it clear that when he says that there is a "myth of mental illness" he does not mean that disturbing behaviors do not exist. He means that what people say about its causes, are not proven to be true. He doesn't even say that they are not true. He merely says much of what is claimed does not have enough evidence to support those claims, that the claims have not risen to the level of scientific theory, that they are mere hypothesese, yet are being touted as being working theories. In any other field of study, they would be challenged. In the field of psychiatry, they are not only touted, but heavily "marketed." They are marketed not because they are believed to be true, but because they justify using fraud and force to control the people who exhibit the behaviors. He does not discount the idea that some behaviors may have a physical abnormality as one of their causes. He says that if and when there is adequate scientific proof of such a thing, he will change his mind about it. He gives the example of epilepsy. Once it was found, with a great deal of certainty, to have a physical cause it was no longer treated by psychiatrists and no longer called possession by the devil or mental illness. Neurologists took over and began using drugs to treat it. He asks why if so many so-called mental illnesses have a physical cause, why then are they still treated by psychiatrists? Because psychiatrist don't really believe their own claims. The claims are there not to communicate the truth, but to justify their actions. Szasz has frequently said that he knows lots of people act really crazy, lots of the time. What he has added is that if they harm no-one else, they should be left alone or drugged if they wanted to be drugged. They should not be drugged against their will. If their behaviors are harming other people, something should be done about it, but he does not think that psychiatrists are the best equipped to do that, that despite all its failings, the criminal justice system might be a better option. Szasz' idea is that there should be nothing to stop agitated people from taking drugs that help them calm down. But they should not be forced to take such drugs. If they are threatening to harm other persons, force can be used, as a last resort, to stop them. Also, he is not against someone voluntarily consulting with a psychiatrist to help them sort out problems in living. He is against forcing people to see a psychiatrist.

[@jbisntme]

This man is very brave. He is 100% correct.

[@tinamahler-worth8989]

Psychiatrists should do therapy and be paid sufficiently by insurance carriers for this service. Their training should include techniques of psychotherapy. Better psychotherapists are needed. Medication is probably overprescribed in many cases, but I personally believe that the SSRI I take partially prevents me from lapsing into serious depressive episodes. It also seems to make me less emotional and less argumentative. I avoided taking medication for many decades, but at this stage of my life (elderly), I have less inclination to suffer and have recently started using the SSRI regularly. Used in moderation, in some cases medication can give some desired relief to people is my belief.

[@faragher63]

I think majority of people forget that we are trying to help people in an area that we no absolutely nothing about, we have what we think happens in the brain and there's what actually happens and putting people through trial and error to find a drug that helps alleviate their symptoms is what a psychiatrist is trying to do, not push drugs on people (with obvious exceptions).

[@Sarablueunicorn]

The field of study of the human brain is neurology not psychiatry. The drug developers are pharmacists/chemists and they basically aren't trying to figure out what's going on in the human brain or central nervous system but rather see what's the effect of this drug in the brain. The only thing they study is the effects of drugs in the brain not what causes the so called "mental illness".

[@billybandyk0720]

​@@user-lv8mw4cp5xHave u ever heard of something called SHORTHAND?!?!? While ur point's very understood RE: "know" vs. "no", that just very "petty & chintzy" 2 call out some1 bc of an alleged "spelling error".

[@MrAndrew535]

The natural equation is really quite simple and is as follows: Psychiatry = bad science. What is disturbing However, is the fact that the product of this somewhat crude and antiquated perspective of the profoundly complex systems of elevated brain function which uniquely defines our species can be left in the hands of the academic underachiever known as the Psychiatrist. Clearly there is no real benefit for such a professional creature in showing any regard for the scientific process and method when there are such lucrative financial incentives. The Psychiatrist possesses all the drives and characteristics of any psycho/sociopath you would care to measure them against. given the extent to which they have, both individually and collectively, impeded the development of the young and defenseless, it would be reasonable to suggest by way of remedy that the be identified, rounded up, processed and medicated in ways they have previously deemed appropriate.

[@hellokitty14218]

Give them a taste of their own medicine.

[@melindalemmon2149]

Amen. No better than Nazis.

[@jonniricard5383]

Psychiatry is not a "Science" by definition.

[@melindalemmon2149]

@@jonniricard5383 And it is not medicine. Neither are their drugs medicines, or cures.

[@kahlodiego5299]

My friend who committed suicide was on high doses of Neurontin. When I went to a suicide survivors group I met 3 women whose friend had also been on Neurontin when she killed herself. I've now met 2 people whose cats are on Neurontin.

[@capresti3537]

psychiatrists DESTROY lives

[@butterboy5621]

Is it possible that chronic pain was a bigger factor than neurontin? Perhaps they weren't on enough neurontin?

[@capresti3537]

@@butterboy5621 What an ignorant comment. Psychiatrists don't use Neurontin for pain and Neurontin does cause suicide as admitted by the manufacturer.

[@butterboy5621]

@@capresti3537 How is suggesting the possibility that chronic pain was a factor in a suicide ignorant? Psychiatrists use neurontin off label for lots of different things. Often for anxiety and particularly in patients that have comorbid chronic pain issues. A suicide is a terrible event in any circumstance. And I know we often look for something to blame and a medication is often the easiest. I'm sorry for your loss and hope you can find peace and closure. -a psychiatrist

[@capresti3537]

@@butterboy5621 Where does he say his friend or anyone he knew who was on Neurontin was in chronic pain?. Psychiatrists use Neurontin for non existent diseases to intoxicate and impair their patients to suppress their psychological symptoms. Psychiatrists do not treat chronic pain, they treat psychological problems. Chronic pain specialists (anesthesiologists) treat chronic pain not psychiatrists. Psychiatric drugs are known to cause suicides and violence a fact known by science and admitted by drug companies. Also i did not lose anyone i was referring to Kahlo Diego's comment. I don't know what you're talking about.

[@chrismattravers5434]

A fascinating and enlightening lecture!

[@MBY1952]

זו מקצועיות ואנושיות. לומר את גבולות הידע במקצוע. ואת הפער בין המצוי לרצוי. כל הכבוד.

[@debrajanzen6661]

Enlightening! I appreciate Dr. Carlat's honesty.

[@Meowlenean]

Nurontin made it extremely hard to think clearly. It made me more frustrated and angrier than I already was due to chronic pain....

[@barneyronnie]

Neurontin isn't a good drug for chronic pain. I take methadone and oxymorphone ( Opana) which also helps my mood. Ask your doctor about maybe trying these drugs.

[@capresti3537]

The future of psychiatry is the toilet bowl 🚽

[@janetmarmaro8269]

I admire his honesty. ✔️

[@jeffkelly5262]

The "sweet spot" is to abolish Psychiatry altogether as not a single such diagnosis has ever passed muster with science. Mainstream medicine gave up leeching some time ago, but in an analogy, Psychiatry hasn't released a single myth it has ever developed.

[@nunisthathigh4825]

Considering that even if someone is in the throws of a legitimately defined illness, say, schizophrenia for example, they are only reacting to an already sick society and the totalitarian political state surrounding them... you may be right.

[@capresti3537]

@@nunisthathigh4825 So called "schizophrenia" is not a legitimately defined illness it is an invented illness that has no scientific basis and just a label meant to stigmatize.

[@4TIMESAYEAR]

​@@nunisthathigh4825 And you are correct - schizophrenia is actually a physical brain problem and should be treated by a neurologist. At the same time, many who have bee diagnosed with it recover w/o medication and don't have relapses using the Soteria House method of "treatment"; those that go on meds do not. I still am puzzled as to how those that recover from said brain disorder - other than maybe they were misdiagnosed and just had a psychotic break and did not have schizophrenia at all.

[@Sarablueunicorn]

​@@4TIMESAYEAR Agree. Let neurology and endocrinology take care of it.

[@squeezeme3316]

Just because you are good at sucking back info and puking it up to pass an exam, as medical school requires, does not, by any stretch of the imagination, mean you are intelligent or a good clinician.

[@mirser4912]

Glad to see an open-minded psychiatrist who remembers a utopian Doctor of Mental Health (DMH) degree once provided by UC Berkeley and UCSF consortium... Closest thing to the DMH today is PhD licensed psychologist + post-doctoral M.S. In Clinical Psychopharmacology! Psychopharmacologically trained psychologists are uniquely positioned to provide integrated care.

[@philiphimmelstein9510]

Very useful for the report I'm writing. Thank you for posting.

[@drannamd]

Brilliant and thank you

[@Beesmakelifegoo]

Well put,by you becoming aware of the status co ,a new path starts. Getting to know someone is necessary, not being super emotional and remaining objective is very helpful. However,choosing to see whom the doctor feels he can help means see less patients. Work with a psychologist as a team. If you choose to take a better solution others in the profession will be influenced. Every field is undergoing major re thinking. It takes courage to grow as a human medical man. My grand father was an MD who got people well by talk he marveled at it! Before penicillin ..

[@kathyadair8552]

👍

[@missdiablica666]

Nice that this guys sees some problems with his profession but he kind of loses me when he says that 60-70% of people respond to drugs and that diagnosis are reliable.

[@michmonty95]

If ‘response’ to a drug means not only some emotional numbing/ general down regulation/ dysregulation of response to environmental stimuli plus a host of other mild cognitive impairments & or stimulant effects resulting in brief euphoria/ hypomanic states he’s probably not far off. He’d see this as far from desirable given the resulting functional impairment if it were pushed on him I imagine. Objectifying/ reducing people’s mental functioning to a mere checklist of symptoms can be incredibly damaging.

[@barneyronnie]

Many of the 'antidepressant' effects of most such medications is simply an agitating, stimulant effect. This will no doubt get the patient moving, thus improving psychomotor retardation; however, this isn't necessarily an improvement in one's depressed mood.

[@JoylieC]

Thanks so much for your very informative talk.

[@luguy8347]

Pissed , Cartal has no audiobooks. We need to listen to this.

[@crazyduck1254]

"a reliable system...." are you kidding me? this guy is delusional

[@lilafeldman8630]

I think that there should be more psychiatrists who do counseling. There has to be a better Integration between meds and therapy.

[@LeftOfToday]

I appreciate his honestly and view about some of the issues with psychiatry in combination with the pharmaceutical companies influence, but I think he also needs to consider the issues of evidence-based practice also becoming a giant business model with questionable research behind it. Not to mention that when we put people in those neat little DSM boxes, we are limiting the treatments that are 'available' to them by just assuming that... Oh, I don't know... Talking to them would help them, too! Btw, did anyone count how many times Zoloft was mentioned in this? Just curious.

[@4TIMESAYEAR]

And never mind that a psychiatrist doesn't actually know if the feelings a client is feeling are due to circumstances or not. When they dispense pills, the patient no longer has to do any of the work that might be required to resolve problems they are experiencing - and if it's caused by someone else (as it was in my case) a pill is not the answer. The psychiatrist was out of touch with reality and had a conflict of interest with the person who was supposed to be doing something about the noise problem where I lived. As a result, the problem I was having with noise was "diagnosed" as "psychoses" and the psychiatrist thought a pill was going to get rid of it (in spite of other tenants having a problem with it as well) It was my wake up call regarding psychiatry. They don't know ***t about what they're doing. Pardon the french. They are the biggest narcissists - arrogant - they think they are omniscient gods and they ruin more lives than they'll ever save. They're the only "doctors" that can imprison you for not taking a med. Watch Dr. Jeffrey Schaler's video here on KZbin. He nails it. It bothers me that Carlat still thinks that pills are appropriate treatment. Of course it's an old video - maybe he's changed his mind since then.

[@Sarablueunicorn]

​@@4TIMESAYEAR You're 100% right. They are the laziest doctors since when they finish their general medicine degree instead of specializing in something useful like neurology they prefer to memorize a book called DSM and prescribe medication just by sitting behind a desk. They don't need to touch the patient, read lab reports, do more research on the conditions. Easy peasy. I have Myasthenia Gravis and took me 2 years and multiple specialists and ruling out diagnosis before actually having it, which was obtained trough a nerve conduction test called SFEMG. But before that I had blood tests, CAT scans, MRI and even tests to confirm that my symptoms were indeed mechanical (i experience double vision). But I go to a psychiatrist and explain my symptoms and I immediately have a mental illness. If you wanna have a mental illness go to a psych expert and you'll go out with one. They also have more power than law enforcement. One phone call saying "I think this person is dangerous for himself or others because...well trust be bro I'm a psychiatrist" and Police picks you up wherever you are and locks you and drugs you. They can keep you there as long as they want. The power trip must be otherwordly.

[@markmartens]

"It's a question of culture; I mean if I am trained in a medical culture that is a medical model, chances are not very good that I'm going to be reading a lot about diet and exercise, and it's going to take something for me to have an incentive to start doing that. It's going to take research and the research money isn't there because...no one can really 'patent' exercise. For example." Danial Carlat, Psychiatrist -- 'Unhinged: The Trouble with Psychiatry.'

[@jonniricard5383]

You cannot live in modern America and not have heard of the benefits of diet and excersize.

[@bq1424]

But the issue is that if a victim Patient spoke the same words HE would accuse them of being “Paranoid”.

[@sheilasmith7779]

About time to tell the truth.

[@Juliemadblogger]

Shared, thank you.

[@sheilasmith7779]

ADHD, or ADD is generally an anxiety disorder. The vast majority are not organically caused. Nearly 100 % of disorders are rooted in either depression or anxiety, or combination of both. So the starting point of treatment is determining root cause. It does not begin and end with diagnosis. It begins with determining the emotional driver; is it anxiety or depression? Try to remember, our primary doctor knows little on the root causes and the treatment. They know what the pharmaceutical salesman has told them. M.D. doctors, sadly, have become disease managers, not Healthcare providers.

[@kkwicks]

There are some people that really do need meds, but there should be lots of therapy first, the dr getting to know you and your issues. I spent most of my teens and 20's constantly dealing with a voice in my head telling me to kill myself. I never acted on it .. but it was a constant battle. I went through therapy for a couple years which helped me get through some issues but did not take care of that voice. I have to take meds, but i they are far overused.

[@nicmart]

You should have the right to take whatever drugs you want, but that they make you feel better is not medicine, anymore than enjoying a cold cerveza is medicinal.

[@melindalemmon2149]

Find a good doc and GET OFF THE POISON

[@sheilasmith7779]

The real uptick in use happened when pharmaceuticals were allowed to market directly with TV adds. Why be limited to the revenue from sales to physicians, when they could market directly to the consumer. People would show up at their primary care doctors office, claiming a diagnosis, and request the drug they saw advertised on TV. And shamefully, general practices, knowing next to nothing about mental disorders, and even less about psychotropic meds, complied. So we went from doctors expertise, to patients knowing what's best and getting the meds they ask for.

[@FinnlabelNYC]

Why does your book sell for $93.95 on Amazon??

[@northstar92]

brought my journal in to see my psych, laughed out of the room lol

[@ladybug5859]

Get a new paych or create a meetup group that journals. I'm in TX but if I were in your town I'd join up😊

[@northstar92]

@@ladybug5859 thank you for the suggestion but this was ages ago. I'm too much of a shut in now. No social media, barely talk to roommates, pretty much just keeping up with world affairs and trying to stick to a prescription I don't trust

[@catandpiddle]

riveting, very much so, and I sense strongly that the man is telling it very much the way it is. thank you for sharing this indeed!

[@sheilasmith7779]

Daniel is right about brain scans. While a scan may reveal an abnormality, it has zero value as to the proper treatment. If your provider is not holistic in approach, he/she is unlikely to be significantly helpful. So if for example a person suffers from an organic disfunction of rapid heart rate, the person will also suffer anxiety. There is no one size fits all. A good diagnostican will explore all areas of possible cause.

[@mamborickyclassicalmusicac4733]

wonderful

[@ssrs0pus]

… I saw a father beat his adolescent son, 16 until he was out of breath pounding the living crap out of him in the mid. 90s. I saw that he had a Benadryl (?) nose spray addiction. He’d put that bottle in his nose and snorted hard like 5 times then he’d do the other nostril. I thought he just smoked a little weed now and then…I’ve seen this huffing a handful of times and realized he was addicted to the contents of the nose spray. Well, Jr. blocked most of the blows but obtained a black eye and some swelling of the face. I left and never saw him and never worked with him again. I’ve never seen a father relentlessly pound on his own flesh and blood like that. He then got within an inch from my face and asked if I had anything to say about it. I stared off pensively through his face and waited for it…He stormed out. I left that day and will never forget that… His “kid” liked Pink Floyd enough to write David Gilmour to see if they were touring anytime soon. I saw the letter. His response was “not anything at this time.” This incident sparked me to write the music industry in 2012…. Dec 21st. it worked. 22 Veterans a day?…How? Why?… Psychology and psychiatry are detrimental to the lives of people who use them and are destroying families, wholesale. I’ve seen blockbuster movies that look ridiculous trying to mimic DSM symptoms. Scaring people into religion. I thought all teachers were free to “think” for themselves. The message I got is non-union workers are scabs and are lower class in a 2-tier society. Sir, if you feel that strongly about what your profession has done, pull all your books. Because you are misinformed. Scabs… union people say this about other humans ! The amount of people ending their careers in the medical field is staggering compared to all the people ending their lives on these medications . The number of suicides is incalculable. This is not love. This is hate… It’s eugenics. Because I saw two sides of the same coin. I lost all interest in sports. Because beating a child senseless is not a sport. The psychiatric industry has the highest suicide rate more than any other profession. You’re going to tell people how to live? Sports, to me, is ridiculous. The message is way more important. Like I said, my father whomped me in the chest after his generation’s neglect. I don’t believe in anything you say. You lied to me, Psychologically and pathologically. You lied. Charlatans. I did not vote for President Obama because he was a black stoner. I voted for him because of Richard Pryor. I distinctly remember an interview with him and Maher with Maher pushing atheism on him. Religiosity and non belief a dichotomy Malthusian trap if I ever seen one! Country music=religion? Rock n roll=freedom? With logic and reason, why anyone would want to be a Scientologist, I’ll never understand why people leaving would fall backwards into Christianity. I left Christianity because of Scientology. Some 90% of Scientology thinks it’s the year 2024… Dianetics was the first science fiction book I read in 11th grade. Reading it will help you understand how much deception there is. No idols… No gods. You guys don’t know Kerouac… Sag A. This is still the Dawning of the age of Aquarius on a rock heading toward the great cathode in the sky. Why do people on fox news say “A mer a ca” Instead of “America”? Well, tomorrow is earth day…Check out the Shapley supercluster and awe in the beauty of the universe. Please. Don’t fade away ( -by Milla )

[@Mel130673]

It’s not Australia advertising drugs….

[@CoCoTheJackRussell]

"Blah Blah Blah...." Summary of this 51 minutes speech: " Psychiatry is modern Quackery" .

[@shaneclauer4939]

Coco Jack Russel true that

[@nicmart]

That’s not at all correct. He totally buys into psychiatry, he’s just another tepid reformer.

[@jasboyh9586]

Sounds like a money racket

[@terrryc]

The Doc here seems to be fairly credible, sort of like Peter Bregin. I would trust him if I needed his sort of help....

[@Roman.Joshua]

sb who uses proofs of truth an "argumentum ad veritatum" does not need credit/proof of authority/ an "argumentum ad verecundiam", because they are often "ad ignorantiam", because instead of critecising the hypothesises of psychiatry "mental illnesses are the cause" they talk about the validity of medication, instead of acknowledging that "mental suffering is a symptom of bad life circumstances or eg bad nutrition/the real illness of the human metabolism", eg 70% of humanity suffers calcium, magnesium and vitamin D3 deficiencies they cause the symptom of depression because of cell degeneration as a real doctor you would treat thks cause and not the symptom of it.

[@edwardlouisbernays2469]

He is a lunatic charlatan anti psych drug money monger! His ideas are silliness, moronic ideolog simpering and murderous. I am 73 Years old. Was saved by Psych-Drugs. Without Psych Drugs I would have never lived to be 73 Years old. I was severely schizophrenic in 1959, was in State Hospitals until 1990, Recovered and now am happily waiting to Die at a Good Old Age! (Yet to be happened) This moron if allowed to influence people will actually INCREASE DEATH, MISERY, SUICODE and POLICE KILLING MENTAL PATIENTS,

[@PfeifJarobi]

That's what "they" say because it is true. And I've seen it in psych ward patients who never have psychosis except when smoking pot. Pot chills most people out, but in some it makes them paranoid and sends them into psychotic delusional behavior. It seems to be worse in people with a family history of schizophrenia.

[@susanmercurio1060]

33:10 Dr Daniel Amen addresses the issue of psychiatry not having any diagnostic tools when he discusses the SPECT tomography which he uses.

[@plekkchand]

Psychaiatrists who are irrationally sensitive about the validity of their profession as a science remond me of the philosopher in Moliere who is there to stand above the fray , and who prpceeds to be drawn in worse than the rest. Criticism is of the essence of science. I'd think twice before I went to a psychaitrist who was that un self-aware.

[@christopher2075]

Chris Mcevoy From my life's experience I've come to one conclusion. Lets get back to our non resistance childhood. we are naturally supposed to be there through our lives. We are stripped of our natural guidance system. lets get back there.

[@susanparrish2456]

@Christopher Mcevoy.....Yeeeessss....right on!!!!!!☺

[@rosieb471]

We sure haven’t come a long way from Freud.

[@kirstinstrand6292]

I wonder how Carol is doing ten years later...I could help her; I was in Analysis 9 years. I stopped treatment, and many years later I resumed my treatment on my own. Yes, I successfully treated myself. Carol likely has a Father Complex that began long before the tragic car accident. If she is not doing well, my best advice to her is to find an 25+ year experienced JUNGIAN Analyst. I suffered a lifelong "Mother Complex." Now, fully resolved.

[@elihueliot]

Now here I am... Sitting in a chair, eating Cheerios and pondering on my career options. What to do? What to do?

[@PfeifJarobi]

It doesn't ALWAYS cause psychosis, but it definitely can. So can alcohol. It's not 100% free of side effects. Marijuana is a drug - just like anything else.

[@kkwicks]

I will say this, my meds are given to me by my doctor, who does do blood labs every three months on me and monitors how side effects.

[@bhadresh1135]

I agree with u .even as a neurologist ..most drugs are harmful rather than useful..

[@kahlodiego5299]

He wants to understand his patients? (What a monster.)

[@jonniricard5383]

What he is describing sounds like a professional drug dealer and not at all a Medical professional. I recently discovered the DSM is based on agreed upon opinion and not based on a Scientific discovery based on observable facts and invariable conclusions. It was shocking that I learned there were no tests to measure the "chemical inbalances' they have been pushing at us as if it is a fact. It is a hypothesis. Digging into this after seeing two people I know destroyed by Psychiatric practices, was shocking, sad but very eye opening. I suggest anyone considering this field of study or this path of treatment do a deep dive into the history and lines of research leading to modern Psychiatry.

[@stevenzerbach6447]

We have this pill. Now we need an ill. 400 disorders are not enough.

[@gary100dm]

These problems have been around for decades !!

[@jy7383]

the comments below are heart-rending ----- but say the rosary ---- find out about it ----

[@billybandyk0720]

Yup; when it comes 2 mental health issues, it's so much easier 2 medic8 than communic8. Even more appalling; how come medications r MANDATORY/REQUIRED as "treatment" 4 mental health conditions (i.e.: depression, schizophrenia, Bipolar Disorder, etc.) but OPTIONAL 4 other health conditions (including insulin as treatment 4 diabetes)? I present this "?" bc of how mental health "professionals" (i.e.: psychiatrists, "technicians", etc.) compare mental health conditions 2 diabetes. The biggest difference? Mental Health Conditions r ENVIRONMENTAL IMBALANCES; Diabetes is a NUTRITIONAL IMBALANCE!!!!! Hence, y insulin (which's OPTIONAL; NOT MANDATORY/REQUIRED) is effective treatment 4 diabetes whereas w/mental health conditions (i.e.; depression, schizophrenia, Bipolar Disorder, etc.), medications r MANDATORY/REQUIRED (NOT OPTIONAL)!!!!! More often than not; mental health conditions r ENVIRONMENTAL IMBALANCES (NOT CHEMICAL IMBALANCES)!!!!! In other words, it's generally how other people (mis)handle &(mis)treat u (especially when abuse, bullying, & harassment committed against some1 r involved). Essentially; psych meds r "chemical pacifiers" (i.e.: designed 2 silence u & make u more prone 2 abuse, bullying, & harassment by others).

[@kirstinstrand6292]

Wellbutrin served me well, in my business and with my love life, until I stopped lying to myself. I believe that only we can find our cures; the difficulty is that no skills are taught - 9 years of analysis, served as my training ground.

[@unstrung65]

The biggest problem with Psychiatry , is that there is an incredible lack of Psychiatrists !

[@billybandyk0720]

RE: the "hierarchy" of psychiatry. Very equivalent 2 a "pyramid scheme".

[@michaeljohnchapman8772]

Ladders are what?

[@BubbaHotepMothership]

Safe. Anti-psych drugs? If you don’t tapper off you might fall off & wind up in something resembling “Donny Darko” territory. Beyond nasty.

[@jukskraiboed]

tablets do not work - so he proposes TO TALK with patient . funny he is .

[@elenalepotova6623]

Я всё больше и больше проникаюсь уважением к тебе, Аркаша, как к психиатру, и мне всё больше и больше хочется у тебя лечиться! К тебе, наверно, уже очередь! Но я готова ждать......Ваша больная.....Интересно, Лена Бельгийская, Алла и Юля Эстонские к тебе уже записались?

[@shaneclauer4939]

Evgeniy Petrov no he is right

[@BL-sd2qw]

Maybe we should give people decent lives instead of drugging them. Just saying. This shouldn't be a radical proposition

[@kevinx237]

no

[@PfeifJarobi]

Ever heard of marijuana induced psychosis?

[@GordonWLearn]

It leaves out the existence of the soul and denies the existence of disincarnate souls harassing humans. Other than that, its cool.

[@davidzaiser9929]

This guy is educated beyond his intelligence. He has no moral compass. Psychiatry is a fraud. End of story.

[@abrahamhempel9260]

Well put. It amazes me how stupid many intelligent people are.

[@sueboy2958]

add shane clauer as friend in facebook

[@kevinx237]

No, just much of it.

[@unpierrot6078]

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[@GBHForumNetwork]

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[@deshablue3703]

Please review my books. Desha Blue

[@PhilipShawn]

CONSTRUCTIVE criticism

[@coryholdaway1501]

I think that Daniel made some valid points. You should treat a good amount of people whom suffer from mental disorders with psychotherapy(especially patients with P.T.S.D.). However, I do feel that many of the medications out there are very helpful to many people. More thoughts on this video and topic at www.coryholdaway.blogspot.com Under the archive December 5, 2013

[@PfeifJarobi]

Yeah, I've seen some of your crazy rants on youtube. That doesn't quality you one iota to talk about psychiatry.

[@Gizellita]

hahahahaaa

[@terrryc]

Who better to discuss Psychiatry than somebody who is Bat $hit crazy?

[@PfeifJarobi]

Well, nobody asked. you. And nobody will.

[@REGjr]

Best treatment for schizophrenia would be matricide, speaking of offlabel prescriptions

[@grgmetube]

What is matricide?

[@REGjr]

@@grgmetube The rage to which most serial killing fails to provide catharsis by displacing (so becomes serially compulsive). Next time some kid shoots up his whole family (scapegoat’s revenge) pay attention…very often if he gets the mother he calls and turns himself in. And politely waits, doesn’t resist. It’s not that the mother is worth the trip to prison, but the proper satisfaction of his rage eliminating it’s object (the source of his life’s injustice) is. Kids who are bullied at school often begin as kids who are scapegoated at home. This of course has implications for the epidemic of school shooters (much like the perplexing serial killer habit of taunting police few also try to understand). Making it a game and enjoying the advantage is a (childish) narcissistic defense-masking a cry to be understood and stopped. Popo could probably stop many whose identities are at least suspected by correctly indicting and conspicuously prosecuting their mothers for child abuse…which would also be (more) effective as prevention. Compulsions don’t (need to) continue relieving obsessions (anxieties) once eliminated, so the abusive mother’s death by other causes could I think be what provides a sense of safety and accounts for those who mysteriously just stop. All I know is that there is a certain type of abuser from whom a target can never be safe as long as they’re (antecedent perpetrator) still alive anywhere on the face of the earth. Their abuse is predominantly psychological/emotional and damn near impossible to conclusively prove….which is a good bit of why it’s so inherently unjust. The cultural myth that it’s unnatural for a mother to not love her child is very harmful. A mother doesn’t even have to WANT her child. What’s unnatural is for a child to fail in making some way to love even the most despicable wretch (upon whom they’ve arrived completely dependent for their very survival). The fact that all of us have survived to discuss it seems like testament to loving parenting, but it’s actually the indication of our ability to successfully adapt to the environments in which we landed.

[@grgmetube]

@@REGjr Why is killing the mother the object of an abused boy. What about father abusing boys and girls? I suppose there are many families where there is no father and no role model for boys now. So this might be happening in mother only families. Boys achievement in schools has deteriorated a lot since the 1990's, even in maths where they use to achieve higher than girls. All of this is a sign of societies in a lot of countries including USA of going down.

[@REGjr]

@@grgmetube The mother who doesn’t protect her child from a father’s abuse is felt as a deeper betrayal. Sadly, girls are socialized to be more tolerant. Absolutely there is no one better situated to abuse than the single parent of an only child. Do not overlook feminism’s requisite negation of motherhood when misrepresenting workplace equality as gender equality (otherwise the false equivalency would have been seen through)

[@grgmetube]

@@REGjr Yes equal pay for equal work seems to be the feminist = female cry. I suppose though things have become complicated by 1 parent families where the mother is the main income earner. Also because of marriage breakups this is almost the default condition. It is also easier for a women now to leave a marriage. In some ways the condition now is a natural outcome of both a marriage that has very few problems that could not be solved and a marriage where the women might be abused. It should not be forgotton that a man can be abused too.

[@elihueliot]

Now here I am... Sitting in a chair, eating Cheerios and pondering on my career options. What to do? What to do?

[@francesfrances3487]

Have you figured it out?

[@elihueliot]

@@francesfrances3487 Funny you should ask, I am currently in my third year of a BA in psychology. I know now that choosing psy wasn't my best choice, wouldn't recommend.

[@uzairhaji3176]

Learn a trade. And enjoy while you can.

[@elihueliot]

Now here I am... Sitting in a chair, eating Cheerios and pondering on my career options. What to do? What to do?