Fantasy Villain Tier Ranking!

[@DanielGreeneReviews]

What tier list should I do next??

[@k.pperlin9733]

Fantasy Worlds? I don’t think you’ve done that one before...

[@shamsham1229]

A main protagonists tier list would be fitting after this one.

[@AICpants]

Best friendships... legolas and gimli Locke and Jean, drizzt and co. Etc..

[@bisifen8521]

Heroes? after villains XD

[@fitness2947]

Side Characters!

[@michaelshort2388]

I met Jack Gleeson (Joffrey) and he is one of the kindest actors i've ever met. That just makes his performance as Joffrey all the more amazing. lol

[@AzelasEM]

There is a Q&A he does at a University and he is just amazing. Incredible person. Speaks volumes to how good an actor he is how he brought to life such a vile creature as Joffrey.

[@josephbradshaw6985]

Agreed. I mean, watching him perform you'd want to smack him in the mouth, instantly, upon meeting him. Seeing him in an interview and you feel guilty for ever thinking such things. Then you watch an episode...yeah, smack him. :-)

[@mariebourgot4949]

It's funny how it seems to me that a vast majority of actors and actresses who did an excellent job at impersonating excellently written villains/awful characters are often total cinnamon rolls in real life. Thus I hypothesized that maybe these roles are a sort of catharsis thing for these sweethearts. :)

[@midori7089]

True! I watch an interview of him in a university setting, and he is so calm and nice. As well as Dolores's actress! Sje was so nice as well.

[@matthewbreytenbach4483]

@@mariebourgot4949 James Earl Jones once said that to play villains well you have to be a Teddy Bear in real life.

[@noahjohnson5603]

what if.. I put.. Lord Farquad.. in S-tier.. Haha just kidding... unless..?

[@j-jackquinn5540]

this comment wins

[@tylerkirn5040]

Lord Farquad deserves nothing less than S Tier. Unsubbed.

[@nathanbaca5131]

"He made people fight to the death to get him some unconsentual poon" never thought of it like that but when you put it that way he's definitely a terrible person and arguably S tier villain.

[@davids2735]

"I must not tell lies" I don't think I'll ever forget that scene. I hate Umbridge so much.

[@hibak8196]

Never. She's terrible.

[@sentient.ball.of.stardust]

Ive never ever hated anyone as much as i hate Umbridge. Not even Jeoffrey.

[@alb0zfinest]

Luna Sedai Because she’s so realistic. And because the actress did such an amazing job.

[@SH-qs7ee]

That was one of the brilliant, yet often overlooked, parts of Harry Potter; we could idenitfy with the teachers through ones we had when we were in school. It's a good bet each of us knew a Mcgonigall, the strict, no nonsence teacher who excelled at her job and cared for her students, and a Lupin; the teacher who was almost a friend, whose classes didnt feel quite like lessons yet you learned quite a lot anyway. Umbridge played on that teacher you 'knew' hated you, and seemed to enjoy picking on and punishing you. More than anything, its this manipulation of our own reminiscences which makes Umbridge the villain she is.

[@WisecrackJax]

Every time I read “Hem, hem” I felt an ulcer develop.

[@BigMoney00187]

And something that’s overlooked is She is not in league with Volderort and his kith. She honestly think she is doing good. That makes her methods all the more reprehensible.

[@billyalarie929]

i raged so hard at her that she gave me spina bifida and now i can't walk

[@danielwilliams9459]

Not gonna lie I burst out laughing when you put Farquod next to Sauron, great video

[@shrekisthebestfranchiseand5032]

Daniel Williams *Farquaad

[@lilianagarcia8443]

Wow, just realized I actually didn't hate Joffrey as much as I hated Dolores Umbridge. Ramsay on the other hand was masterfully played by Iwan Rheon and he got me terrified, never enjoyed a Tv death so much as his

[@tomswiftyphilo2504]

they didn't do justice to that one. the fact that in killing ramsey she becomes him should have gotten a bit more stage time.

[@crystalross2284]

I think part of that is because Joffrey was a kid from bad parents who over indulged then put in a position he wasn't ready or qualified for. Umbridge is the hypocrite who justifies evil actions while pretending to be a 'good' person because authority.

[@k.pperlin9733]

I’m not a huge Harry Potter fan, but Umbridge is a very good villain for YA. More than some adult fantasy....

[@yoavweiss8779]

Same here i mean i can't really remember any other villain that made me literally dream about kicking her ass

[@elgranqenk2]

I think Tywin was much more compeling as a villian than Cersei.

[@DanielGreeneReviews]

Same

[@ascalon8001]

Tywin wasn't really a villain for me. I didn't see him as such.

[@ce666isa3]

@@ascalon8001 seriously though.....the only evil thing he dd was hating Tyrion.... the rest was just what u do when u at war 🤷‍♂️

[@9forMortalMen]

@@ce666isa3 He did start the war. Which was not 100% necessary at the time for the survival of his house.

[@ce666isa3]

@@9forMortalMen wasnt it Joffrey who started the war 🤔

[@bazlow8069]

So glad Umbridge was S tier - I'm with you - she elicits the most visceral reaction in my gut when I think of villains.

[@MrsTold]

Shes like every horrible teacher you ever had but like turned up to 500! Despiiiiiiiise her

[@cockycookie1]

Farquad tho. He's the most repulsive character I've ever come across in fiction. Remember that one scene with him in bed 🤮

[@Ryan_Thompson_Guitarist]

Sauron based upon LOTR: B Tier Sauron based upon The Silmarillion: A/S Tier

[@Ultr4l0f]

Based on Bilbo: D

[@EwokWarrior]

So true!

[@williamrosen3179]

The dude managed to singlehandedly defeat a King of the Noldor in a battle of song and then went on to survive drowning by Eru himself. It took throwing his concentrated malice and will to dominate into a volcano to kill him.

[@FraternityOfShadows]

Sauron deserves S tier based on LotR alone. The sad part is that people often mistake movie Sauron with book Sauron, and they are COMPLETELY different. In the books, the big S is not a flying eye, he does have a physical form even - just a lot weaker than he once was. Sauron is a looming threat, ever returning, turning friends into foes, allies into enemies. His influence by his words and malicious will is unparalleled. And yet, he is not an unbeatable force per se - he could not hope to defeat Numenor - a kingdom of mortals - in a straight fight, so he allowed them to capture him, and corrupted them from within - from prison no less. The last Alliance beat his armies, and himself, but his malicious will prevailed and influenced Isildur, bringing the human king his doom. Even at late 3rd era, the united forces of mortals of north-western Middle-Earth could've beaten him - it's just that they will not unite against Sauron this time. Even his eventual downfall didn't come to Sauron because he was too blind to see that someone would be able to destroy the Ring - because in fact, Sauron in his pride was actually right, that noone would be able to cast it into the fire of Mount Doom. He lost by an "accident", and judging by how improbable was the series of events that led to Gollum being present on mount doom to fall with the Ring, Eru Ilvuatar himself was probably involved.

[@therealpatagonianpancakes]

King Excellent deserved better

[@leonardomangiapan1160]

the best battle of fantasy tier list

[@AZM777]

this too!

[@danieldosso2455]

Yess plz! Best Fantasy Battle!

[@fantastic_joe]

Blackwater. People always look over Clash of Kings.

[@johnmclellan2257]

@@fantastic_joe Battle of the Blackwater is fire. Some would say it's... Wildfire

[@9forMortalMen]

Definitely

[@apheliotropic]

And I kind of disagree with your opinion of Voldemort. I don’t know if I would have ranked him higher but I thought he was better fleshed out in the books than movies. The movies cut out his entire backstory and the connection he had with each of the horcruxes. For me it felt like a very important piece of his characterization.

[@ksl3240]

Apheliotropic he’s def a better villain in the books.... and I just thought of the Malfoys and how much his own followers feared him. I would bump him up 1 tier.

[@alchemypotato]

Yeah, he's much, much more interesting in the books. The films give him very little development at all and cut a lot of his best moments. There's no comparison whatsoever.

[@janhavi1977]

Yes, I felt the same way! He's not the best villain, but he does have a menacing presence in the books, and he's also more calculating. Especially when we see him as Tom Riddle. He scared me as a kid, but even now Tom Riddle in HBP creeps me out. The fact that a 16-year old was obssessed with trying to gain immortality was pretty unsettling. But in the movie he's very cartoonish, with over-exaggerated mannerisms, over-the-top laughter and yelling. He...didn't feel like the book Voldemort to me.

[@mr.teekanee9750]

Agree with you all people.

[@jeanerasmus7]

HBP became my most re-read book in the potterverse mainly because the reasons you stated above.

[@thatgamingfreak]

I think the Lord Ruler is an excellent villian. He crafts his oppressive government really well, and the more you learn about him the more interesting he gets.

[@paul2787]

I think its amazing that hes really just protecting the world from the Big evil while still being such a Bastard.

[@calebmauer1751]

@@paul2787 Yeah, he saved the world one time and it gave him a god complex.

[@claytonmiller3345]

I wish we saw more of the Lord Ruler. So much there.

[@SupremeDP]

Yeah he's good. By the time we meet him he's just Sauron, but there is so much more to him. No idea why he's not in this list.

[@abdulrahmanalsallum1935]

Do fantasy villians with spoilers , just before the video starts write every fantasy book you you will spoil in this video.

[@AZM777]

Please do!!!

[@feraccount9941]

whelp feels bad about the WOT, lel oh wellsies i do enjoy the journey

[@Obi-Wan_Kenobi]

In Darth Vader's defense, I think Lucas's intention of letting Anakin become a ghost was to push the moral that anyone can be forgiven. And it's not just saving his son, Darth Vader sacrificed himself to do it. He no longer clung to the hate, rage, and survivalistic mentality of the Sith, he broke free in sacrificing himself to save his son because he finally had something good to live for. In that moment, Vader finally realized that power wasn't important, love was.

[@jordansorenson698]

Sauron is such a villian that he just scared everyone else off of b tier.

[@commanderdanielcousland9981]

Euron Greyjoy from the books is one of the most messed up character in all of fantasy. An S rank villian.

[@giovannipinotti6610]

Definitely, the TWOW chapter with him was terrifying.

[@scottorris3668]

And he is like the most powerful human, only valerian armor? Maybe able to control dragons? Plenty of powerful weapons? Yea try to fight him

[@meurer13daniel]

"ok, we have a villan that can make our version of Ramsey Bolton a spoiled kid from the 21th Century. That's a big deal. What should we do with him?" "a fiNGeR iN tHe BuM"

[@sernoddicusthegallant6986]

Eh he really hasnt been explored enough for anyone to make solid opinions on. Definitely potential for S tier though

[@ItalianStallionBDM]

Did I miss something? Hes barely in the book

[@superbgokul]

My favourite villain of all time, in terms of the sheer hatred he had elicited from me, is Napoleon from Animal Farm.

[@ericbroussedegersigny3344]

Stealing revolutions from the people is bad

[@genghiskhan7691]

Then you must hate Stalin the most irl

[@LuciferMorningstar-uk7oh]

Red pilled

[@kadeonines5178]

But clearly Snowball was the villain you anti revolutionary traitor

[@scepta101]

Yeah seriously fuck that guy

[@bobob586]

Griffith from “Berserk” is one of the best villains of all time. I know you don’t read Manga, but if you ever come across this story, you won’t be disappointed.

[@sernoddicusthegallant6986]

"I hate Umbridge even more than Joffrey" Griffith: "Im about to end this guy's whole career"

[@JeffPenaify]

The brilliance with Griffith is hes the most well written, realized and fleshed out sociopath in fiction

[@MrRenanHappy]

Griffith is interesting up to the Golden Age, afterwards he is just fucking annoying

[@Johannnnnnnnnnnnn]

God I Just Can't forget what he done In Eclipse Its beyond disturbing

[@berserker8884]

Sauron is an awesome villain once you look at his whole story and his philosophy. In the LoTR alone though, his presence is HUGE, but his character isnt much of anythibg other than the ring itself, meaning that it is more of a force than anything. But once you consider all of his history and stuff, he is pretty great, A tier for me.

[@Yajna007]

Isn't much of anything other than _The One Ring_ itself?! Are you out of your mind?! Go and read about the Akallabeth event\incident in which event/incident Eru Illuvatar sunk the entire Island of Numenor by sending a flood. Read-up, as to, how exactly Sauron had bamboozled the Numenorean King i.e. Ar Pharazon to attack Valinor! He (Sauron) didn't need The One Ring for this manipulation. Nor did

[@berserker8884]

@@Yajna007 Ahemm, I said in LOTR, i.e. the war of the ring in TA, not in general Arda history.

[@Yajna007]

@@berserker8884 Okay.

[@TheYannir]

@Yajna007 I really hope Annatar makes an appearance in the coming series by Amazon.

[@Yajna007]

@@TheYannir Same here. Infact, he has to. Bcoz, Sauron manipulating the Elves {while disguised/masquerading as _Annatar_ a.k.a. The Lord of Gifts} into forging the three elven rings is a key element of the Second Age.

[@GandalfGreyhame]

I would honestly say Palpatine in a better villain than Vader. His backstory isn't as good as Vader, but basically everything else is better about him imo. Especially what he accomplished that made him emperor of the entire galaxy. How he rose to power both as a Sith and a politician in the Republic, used Anakin and the Clone troopers to give himself ultimate authority was just brilliant. He also has a good downfall because of Luke and how Vader turned against him in the end

[@avichaid6021]

Palpatine is a f***** genius

[@Snow-lv4bk]

Yeah and the prequels elevate him on the whole new level

[@calebmauer1751]

The Darth Plagueis book was great for giving all kinds of backstory on Palpatine

[@ElijsDima]

Do you mean the clone one or the real one?

[@Enrobdoolb]

I really love Palpatine as a villain; however, he wasn't the smartest (here's why). When the rule of 2 was implemented, he knew his new apprentice had to kill him in order to continue the sith line. Palpatine was following the guide book like a good little sith lord, but then he got arrogant with his power after the jedi were almost all killed. This is where he thought leaving the sith agenda was good and boom, Anakin out here chucking that man into a space hole lmao. Not to mention, he was born into evil, Vader was turned (meaning Anakin will always be inside Vader, no matter how many people he killed) I really like palpatines lore, especially how he hated a 14 year old (Padme) cuz her views were progressive and cared for her people lmao, classic old guy hating the youth solid A for me

[@saturated3821]

I think Umbridge is the best of the bunch for the simple reason that she's the only one where I actually got so mad I had to stop reading, pace a little bit, and hit a pillow a couple times groaning in a way that made my mother ask what's wrong, before I could return to the book.

[@Kaleidoface]

Daniel: "If I describe what Ramsey does to people I could get demonetized." Also Daniel: "I WANNA PUT JOFFREY'S FACE IN A BLENDER."

[@seraph8293]

Ramsay would put someone’s penis in a blender

[@gabrielfillion2059]

Interesting list and rankings. I appreciate the fact you went for how the character made your feel/respond and based on that i agree with just about all your placements. I think I would like to see how these villains would stack up when viewed from the lens of how evil their respective fantasy worlds see these bad guys. I would think Vader would soar to the top as he was feared across the galaxy and Voldemort mere reputation kept an entire population from even saying his name for more than a decade after his supposed death! Just my thoughts

[@ChristmasLore]

Voldemort and Sauron in that are very identical.

[@jameerjamison724]

Could you possibly make a video on how to pronounce all the names in WoT

[@RayW....]

Yes. Ive been thinkin that for awhile. Every name i thought i had right turned out wrong.

[@IgnorancEnArrogance]

That's why the glossary is in the back of every book, and you can buy an encyclopedia with all the pronunciations, though it may contain spoilers. That video would run several hours probably as there are over 2000 characters in WOT.

[@TheYannir]

@@IgnorancEnArrogance He can just skip all the politicians and meaningless Aes Sedai. That should narrow it down to like 50.

[@IgnorancEnArrogance]

​@@TheYannir - HAHA maybe, don't forget the Aiel and the Seafolk

[@skynikan]

I recently reread Order of the Phoenix and the great thing with Umbridge is that... Well, even though she is 'just' a teacher, she makes the reader in the position of Harry feel powerless and unable to fight back. A villain should have the power to make the hero feel small, should seem like a huge challenge, and she does that really well. Voldemort... Well, Harry fought him so often and he never really did anything to him, it's almost comedic how often Harry faces him and gets away with it. For being "the darkest wizard of all time", that's weak. Losing against an 11, 12, 14, 15 anf 17 year old is... not that impressive.

[@ktsbookishescape4299]

I really enjoyed learning about The Lord Ruler in Mistborn. I think Holland in the Shades of Magic series is an amazingly complex villain to where he is the stand out character of the series. For YA gotta love The Darkling from The Grishaverse.

[@karkatvantas9557]

Is Holland a villain? He's certainly an antagonist, but at first he's a slave, and after that he's an anti-hero I think. Don't get me wrong, I agree that Holland is a fantastic character, I just don't think I'd call him a villain. Osarion (is that his name?) is the villain of Shades of Magic.

[@hibak8196]

@@karkatvantas9557 Yeah he would be considered a villain, many stories have more than one. He is more of an anti-hero though. Vitari and Osaron(?) are both boring. Holland made me care about him for some reason.

[@ktsbookishescape4299]

Karkat Vantas great question and tbh I don’t know lol 🤷🏼‍♀️ but he is an enemy of the main characters sooo I think so? I don’t have a literature degree or anything though lol

[@thisbeaverdances4401]

It ok, everybody already knows Jar Jar Binks is a sith lord.

[@ves138]

Jorg is def my favourite, alongside Vader (atleast from the ones you ranked). Especially Jorg from King of Thorns and Emperor Of Thorns. He became even cooler imo

[@micahmock3505]

Daniel: puts Farquad next to Sauron. Daniel: laughs Daniel: moves him next to Voldemort instead

[@fitness2947]

He threw ONE of the most powerful Sith down a hole.

[@bradenvester4308]

Freaking umbridge. Her name literally means pain and sorrow in Latin.

[@jamiaverette7558]

Would love to see an exclusive Game of Thrones villains tier list!

[@spacet1me]

Jack Gleeson had to quit acting because he already mastered acting while playing Joffrey.

[@t.hussain921]

Mrs Coulter from His Dark Materials could be an A tier contender.

[@supermonkey321]

I think maybe she and Lord Asriel were two of the villains he was leaving off for spoiler reasons.

[@sayakchoudhury9711]

I think she is S tier!

[@albinodeer7449]

Not the most exciting, but a tier list of fantasy book titles, maybe? How well it condenses the story into just a few words + how well it sounds (like how The Name of the Wind has this nice flowing-poetic quality to it for example)

[@sheyslibrary]

I would love to see where you put Gollum, especially in comparison to Saruman and Sauron

[@Jeneric81]

Gollum is the hero though.

[@xandara75]

@@Jeneric81 I don't see how you could conclude that in any way shape or sense. He is at best a tragic villain at worst flatly evil for killing his friend while just laying eyes on the ring.

[@scepta101]

He is such an incredibly fascinating and thematically rich villain who I consider to be truly unique among villains that I have come across. Definitely A or S tier for me

[@gabrieltoscano8480]

After you do enough of these tier videos (which I love, so keep doing them :D) you have to go meta and do a tier ranking of your tier ranking videos

[@wrecks3437]

Captain Barbosa from Pirates of the Caribbean has to high on the list for me, he was fantastic.

[@alb0zfinest]

Joe Miller He’s not really a real villain. I love Barbosa though. Sometimes even more than Jack.

[@Pearcinator]

Davy Jones was good too

[@johnathankorkie4984]

Spoiler warning for pirates Barbosa wasn't really a villain after the 1st movie. He was the wild card protagonist from 3 onward

[@tomswiftyphilo2504]

not a villain. those movies have zero stakes so it's hard for there to be an interesting villain.

[@mamavswild]

He’s not a villain!

[@sam6459]

voldemort was intimidating, especially when i was younger and reading the books for the first time, but umbridge.. even now as an adult when i reread the books for the millionth time, she still infuriates me and i still hate her as much as i did when i first read the series.

[@rasaecnai]

Jeoffrey is so wonderfully played by Jack Gleeson. You just cant imagine him as someone else. He owned that role.

[@hannapatterson3345]

Your comment “He threw a man into a hole and now he’s redeemed” litteral destroyed me😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@marktgreene]

Go ahead and do one with spoilers so you can reveal that Ron Weasley is the most evil villain in Harry Potter! How about Zuul from Ghostbusters? (KIDDING!)

[@veselinivanov1886]

I think you are missing Andross Guile from your list. He would have been an interesting comparison to the rest :)

[@ElbyStarfire]

He generates an appreciable level of hate in me.

[@khwezipraschma4204]

I'm on the third book and my God do I just fucking hate him😂

[@neriumsuitedher]

He's grown on me. He's like Tywin but... more likable.

[@IndeedIAm]

I was almost disappointed about you not including some fantasy series' villian's, but the fact that're protecting spoilers is amazing. I can't wait to be able to smile and be excited when someone is telling me about a certain part in the WoT series.

[@Blarg6306]

My favorite villains are the ones where you can say, "well yeah, he/she kinda has a point." My favorite example is Magneto, though Ishamael is super awesome too.

[@squngy0]

Stain in My Hero Acedemia is also there IMO. Such an interesting motivation

[@RKGold]

Voldemort book 6 brings him up the tier list for me personally. Based solely on books I get more from Voldy than Sauron

[@drewnapoleons4569]

This is great I agree with a lot of what you said!!! I was just watching game of thrones a couple days ago and told my wife I have never hated a character more than Geoffrey and that’s a huge compliment to George and the kid who played him for creating that character!!!!

[@natasagajic1061]

Great list Daniel! You even managed to intrigue me with "he was right" villain. I didn't plan on reading WOT since I was bored by the first book when I read it, but now that you said that, I might need to rethink my choice XD So hat off to you, sir :) Though, I would have easily put Sauron & Voldemort to D tier, as I didn't have any emotional reaction to them whatsoever, but it's a personal preference! ^^

[@matthewsmith4647]

Read it. Once you get past book 3 your golden

[@ZamWeazle]

"He threw an old man down a hole" ...lmfao!! Love you daniel!

[@teganj9512]

I can't stop watching these tier list videos, help!

[@OmegaTheSillyWolf]

My first grade teacher was exactly like Umbridge (besides the magic) so her being in S tier gives me joy. That teacher was evil incarnate.

[@tulekahju]

'I hate their face' is such a mood. I dont even know how many times I've said that about people I dislike, or when I meet someone and something about them doesn't sit right with me.

[@cockycookie1]

Wow. That reflects more on you than it does them, don't you think? (Assuming you don't happen to be surrounded by a bunch of psychopaths and narcissists.)

[@tulekahju]

@@cockycookie1 No, not really. Sometimes people look like they're a pompous asshole. Also, "I hate their face" is more of a figure of speech. People tend to use it if they have a turbulent history with someone, or if they see someone who appears pretentious. I'm not walking around seething about random strangers. If someone gives me a bad vibe I just avoid them, if I cant avoid them (for instance in the workplace) I'll remain civil with them, but limit my contact with them. I tend to get a good read on people so I trust that instinct of mine when I get it.

[@jonathanmartinez5984]

Is there a non violent way of putting someones face in a blender?? Asking for a friend

[@princekermit0]

Get them to do it themselves. See Saw franchise for pro tips

[@lutherfloyd597]

Daniel's best video yet.

[@williammescall7540]

Sauron was helping him stand up like the honorable lad he is

[@sonofares7889]

The Jackal from Red Rising is one of my favorite villain. Not so much in book 1 but later on. He scary as hell. And so incredible human I find myself pitying him.

[@pabloaragon3303]

Lysander is becoming even worst. Even tho i can understand him, i still hate him so much.

[@sonofares7889]

Pablo Aragon f Lysander

[@joycerollins2582]

Maybe ....but never forget what the Jackal did at the Institute! He is just broken and evil. There are lots of villains in the Red Rising series! Aja, Antonia, Karnus etc. I love those books!

[@kwabzycomposer]

Griffith from Berserk: one of the easiest S tier villains I can think of honestly

[@AcidWords1]

Sauron is a great villain, because he never gets demystified. There's no monologue that reminds you that a human can't write believable dialogue for a demi god. He's that all consuming evil that lurks in the background, and even though he never directly is interjected into the storyline, the stakes are clear from the start.

[@julespulp214]

2:45 Sauron was going to burn Isildur alive with his own hands, just like he did with Gil-galad, the High King of the Noldor, moments before. Killing the last heir of the kings of men in front of his whole army that way is a lot more brutal than using a mace. And a huge guy smashing someone with a mace is already brutal enough.

[@sachi8745]

thank you for filtering out!!!! truly appreciate it

[@annamarie1914]

For lord Farquaad, he also tortured the (talking) gingerbread man. He broke his legs, ate one of his feet, and drowned him in a glass of milk. But I do feel like he does belong in the C trier, still.

[@henryfreitas6921]

S - Dollores Joffrey Darth V. A - Sauron Ramsey B - Voldmort Cersei C - Lord forquaire **don t now his name D - Snow Queen Dont now who the others are***

[@MaryAmongStories]

I just love that you included Shrek 😂 YES completely agree about Umbridge and Joffrey!

[@brettgurda1356]

There is just so much more to Sauron than you seem to be giving him credit for. The Philosophy of Sauron video by Hello Future Me takes a deep dive into the Lord of the Rings' titular character. Regardless, great video, and I do enjoy your takes that conflict with my own. If everyone had the same tier lists then these videos wouldn't be so intriguing. Keep up the great work man!

[@alakomachado9680]

People think I'm disturbing when I say Umbridge is my HP's favorite character. They say "omg she os DISGUSTING" but a that is why I love her. Sauron is unreal, fearful, but he is THE evil, and this is an idea. Voldemort is kinda THE EVIL, but his story added layers for me, and I also think of him as a result of fear circumstances. But Dolores? Dolores is my Far Right Aunt, that is not using fucking masks because "the president said we don't need them". (Shout out for my Brazilians here) Dolores is a real villain

[@ChristmasLore]

It comes down to choices. She chooses it all. Most huge vilains don't, they have deep histories backing up their choices and actions, real motivations. But the umbridges of the world, it comes down to choice, their own selfishness, personal gain. There's no redemption. They have no soul.

[@gaybowser4648]

It was the moment I read that Umbridge was practically torturing children that made me want to strangle the woman. The movie really didn’t help. Having a face just fuelled the fire. Also, I just started reading ASOIAF and hearing you talk about Joffrey Baratheon in such a way, genuinely scared me a bit.

[@critica77y77]

Joffrey Baratheon could have a tiny bit of humanity deep down, I think, but if so, it's continually stifled by a combination of Cersei's coddling, Robert's constant absence, mental illness, and the fact that Joffrey just doesn't think he needs to improve himself. I'm not saying he's not an *extremely* bad person, because he definitely is, and I'm not even saying that he doesn't deserve to be hated as much as he is, because in the end, regardless of who we point the finger at to determine who's to blame, he's still a tyrant who needs to die for the sake of the realm. I'm not the kind of apologist who thinks we should give everyone a second chance at the expense of others. I'm just saying it's not surprising he ended up the way he did all things considered.

[@mr.teekanee9750]

Love your channel. Kinda disagree with Voldemort. I think that we got a lot of backstory about him in Half-blood prince.

[@hibak8196]

Yeah. I don't feel deadly hatred for him, but I do hate him bad enough, and he is a deep villain especially considering what the story needed and in comparison to other really boring villains out there..

[@Trisjack20]

I agree and I think the books actually do quite a lot of digging into Voldemort but allow him to remain mysterious as well which gives him a subtlety that many villains lack. Daniel even mentions he dislikes it when it is too blatant and maybe that is how he feels about Voldemortbut in the books at least I think he is not giving due credit. How many villains are able to manifest as 1- a parsite (As in Philosophers stone) 2- a memory (As in Chamber) 3- through a catspaw (As in Prisoner) 4- through their own resurection (As in the graveyard in Goblet) 5- without being present (As in phoenix such a frustrating and clever thing to persuade everyone he was not there but was) 6- as a terrirost (see half-blood) and finally as an occupying dictator (As in 7). The reveals as well from what people tell us of him or refuse to tell us, the memories of the diary, the journey's into the pensieve just such a clever constant hinting. I could make some interesting arguments for the Emperor and Vader too as with many big series the deeper you look into the characters the better you appreciate them as long as there is depth there. If you note all that Daniel can see in Ishamael because he is a massive WOT fan, others just see him as a guy in black who tries to kill Rand and never get into his philosophy or changing character or subtle manchinations.

[@mr.teekanee9750]

@@Trisjack20 ok, nice summary but I had to stop reading after Ishamael cause of spoilers. Damn, you gave me a hearthatack

[@Trisjack20]

@@mr.teekanee9750 NO problem but I promise there was only poilers for Harry Potter in this reply. Enjoy the series it is brilliant!

[@mr.teekanee9750]

@@Trisjack20 Ok, I was just very careful. Don't wanna spoil this.

[@lshe97]

Gotta be honest man, I feel the complete opposite way about Voldemort. In the books he has a backstory, he always has a presence in each book as the ultimate threat without even appearing (kinda like Sauron), is shown on occasion to not needlessly murder people "because why not? lmao", and most importantly, dies just like anyone else. The maniac spent decades trying to elevate himself above humans, becoming immortal. Desperately trying to prove that he was special. Then he just hits the ground like a sack of potatoes because he was so obsessed with himself that he forgot to look at the bigger picture. In the movies? Zero backstory, dies like he is some sort of godlike being, and there is no explanation as to why he is evil because.... _pale man bad_ Book Voldemort, to me, belongs next to Sauron in the B-tier on this ranking.

[@librariancat.7074]

One of the many reasons why we all hate Umbridge is because the thought that someone so real (a teacher, a boss, a parent) can so easily control your life and tell everyone when they should and should not believe you is so scary. That’s why when we think about her we usually remember about the “I must not tell lies” scene or even hear her odious laugh (she only laughed to make people feel small and stupid...)

[@TheMusicscotty]

Memorable villains to me: Umbridge Voldemort Sylar (Heroes season 1) Ruin (Mistborn) Thanos Mondego (Count of monte cristo) Commodus (Gladiator)

[@booksteff]

Pick a character you hate from harry potter... No I couldn't possibly I love them all They are all equally amazing No, I couldn't pick, really.... ... ...umbridge...it's umbridge 😶😂

[@nicademous6396]

I am glad you had so much fun with this one :)

[@apheliotropic]

Yeah Joffrey and Umbridge are pretty much equal in their ability to make me sooooo angry

[@shauntempley9757]

The White Witch for me is A. Nowhere else have I read anything where her no speaking interactions with Aslan matches each other. In such a way as they are aware of the power each has. Each time she encountered him like in The Magician's Nephew and the next book where they first meet again, I felt anything could happen. It actually delivered with what happened later. Only the Black Rider of The Dark Is Rising Sequence equals that presence. There, it matches Arthur and the Lady both. Merlin is there, but when they meet, Merlin had no control. Rand and the Dark One are on a totally different level, of course.

[@DrMihailgreen]

How about the emperor, inqisitors from Mistborn.

[@hayleyhistorynerd2211]

I'm here for you Daniel Dolores Umbridge definitely belongs in tier S just, UUUuuGGGGGGHHHH! That moment when Harry looks at her after the quill starts cutting him in both the book and the film still gives me chills of revulsion. I love that you have Farquad on here too. You're completely right he's a horrible dude. I think it would be fair to have Farquad in the the B tier. Great vid Daniel I love villain analysis. Hayley ^_^

[@marktgreene]

Umbridge and Farquaad! Great choices and right where they belong. Ishamael: overrated! He's just not important enough to the books (compare to underrated Voldemort). Replace him with The Dark One.

[@matthewsmith4647]

Mordrid is one of the main catalysts in the whole Wheel dude

[@ryanratchford2530]

Wish you did all the shrek villains, Farquaaaaa, Fairy Godmother, Charming, Rumpul Skinny Boi are all great antagonists with personality, presence, & motivation

[@11DaltonB]

"I'm gonna put Lord Farquad right there next to Sauron" yes this is a pretty unique tier list lmao.

[@gaber.24]

I feel the reason you keep coming down so hard on NARNIA is you're not accounting for it being a children's series. I don't mean a YA series like HARRY POTTER or HUNGER GAMES. I mean a series meant for small children, more in-line with Roald Dahl or Hans Christian Andersen or WIZARD OF OZ. Yes, it's very broad and without subtlety, but that doesn't mean it's bad. I feel comparing it to these more adult-themed fantasies is unfair; it's like criticizing WIZARD OF OZ for not being like GAME OF THRONES.

[@Trisjack20]

And writing an effective children's villain is more difficult than you might think. Writing for children is not easier than writing for adults only different. If you write at all I would suggest the challenge. Write something and see if you can get a 9 year old to love it and read it all the way through and want to know what happens next and even reread it. Not easy.... no not easy. Establishing the witch the way Lewis does as beautiful, powerful, elegant with magic, castle, elite wolf guard and a cool sleigh, someone who gives out sweets and complements but then turns on the protagonist, betrays him and uses him to kill the most powerful character in the book is actually very effective and clever. Much of what someone like Daniel sees as way too blatant and obvious was just enough to get my kids speculating and desperate in the end to see her eaten by a lion! I agree Narnia is good but has to be considered in context as does LOTR or StarWars or Harry Potter.

[@skylermaves7272]

Personally I think Euron Greyjoy from the books is a better villain then Joffery, Cersei, and Ramsey but that's just me.

[@meurer13daniel]

It's not just you. A lot of people think this way.

[@skylermaves7272]

@@meurer13daniel Fair enough.

[@azgonath1937]

It wouldn't surprise me if he is an endgame villain in ASOIAF.

[@MM-xm5vx]

The biggest villain is Patchface

[@sernoddicusthegallant6986]

@@MM-xm5vx Wrong its Ser Pounce

[@drnickda5773]

I was listening to music while I was watching this and while you were talking about Umbridge it started to get really intense.

[@jareddavis554]

This is hilarious I can’t believe I heard the line non consensual poon. I had to pull over to laugh.

[@hamzaorakzai3490]

Euron Greyjoy from THE ASOIAF is an absolute monster, he is a despicable person and intriguing at the same time,he has this Lovecraftian aura around him that makes him a standout in my opinion.

[@Anonymos185]

9:17 Man, if he takes glee out of doing terrible shit, would you say you concider him to be a Gleeson?

[@ImTheReverse]

I don’t think you understand the purpose of Vader’s redemption arc. None of his actions are justified. He’s simply redeemed in the eyes of his son. As for him making it to “Jedi heaven”, there is an argument to made there.

[@BariiAlyn]

Have you got to Nicodemus Archleone in The Dresdan File, Daniel? He's one of my favourite villians; powerful, evil, manipulative, and frighteningly competent.

[@pyktukasplays4945]

CONTEXT FOR SAURON USING A HAND ON ISILDUR: In the FULL (not "extended", not "theatrical") version of the prologue battle Sauron grabbed and set Gil-galad (elf leader with a spear) on fire before throwing him away as the elf was becoming a melting burning mush. Plus right before he went to reach for Isildur, Sauron already shattered the only weapon that could scratch him as if it was a low-quality glass. So... It would seem that Sauron was planning to happily melt Isildur to death. Elendil's son just had to face the death of his father a moment before...

[@anirablue]

I HATE Dolores Umbridge. HATE HER! So yeah, she definitely deserves the top tier. Lol. Great video.

[@UncleBerty]

As a fellow blind person I gotta give you a tip. If you get frames that go around the whole lense it really helps with the whole face squeezing effect that thicker lenses have. Your frames now are pretty clean though so do you big dog

[@veradonchimera]

The ironic thing is that Jeoffry's actor is the nicest person in real life. I know someone who when to went to college with him and she said it was actually disconcerting seeing what her brain was telling her was Joffrey being this super pleasant human being on campus.

[@Trisjack20]

Yes I have seen various things with the man himself and in every single one he comes off as genuinely approachable and likeable actor. He just acted a really great villain and did it justice.

[@ThePathOfEudaimonia]

A tier list of best fantasy and science fiction sources! Like sites, blogs, KZbinrs, etc.

[@soundaholixx]

Umbridge S Tier Voldemort C Tier This is the TRUTH

[@Supremedalex]

What’s crazy is that I pretty much agree with what you said about Vader, I never really thought about it that way

[@iiXalexXii]

Lord Farquaad is an easy choice for an S tier villain. The oppression he asserts upon his subjects is highly relatable due to his similarities to that of a wealthy, capitalist, oligarchical land-owner. In this essay I will...

[@foreverlearning8926]

Thanks you for making it spoiler free ! I love when a character is a villain but to discover it later.

[@connorgolden4]

I feel like Sauron shouldn’t be on this list. I’d want to rate him higher but I just don’t feel he fits here because he never really appears. He’s a presence, and distance entity who’s felt from afar.

[@kaoutherguelmame9572]

A presence that caused all that damage and fear is what I call super evil

[@dragonhelmofdor-lomin4017]

Sauron appears in the Silmarillion.

[@turtlecomicreviews7599]

The actor for voldemort, did do an amazing job. I didnt really care for harry potter growing up, but i do like him. Really intimidating for me at a young age.