Cessationism 7 (Miracle Workers) | Daniel Kolenda: Off The Record

[@danielross5447]

The 3 biblical periods of God working miracles: the Past, the Present, and the Future!

[@DanielKolenda]

That’s good! I’m gonna use that😂

[@jeredmintz8564]

⁠​⁠​⁠@@DanielKolendathat is really good. Great video series.

[@Jesudami]

@@DanielKolenda 😂😂😂 We didn't get any new episode this week :(

[@DanielKolenda]

The team is on Christmas break...more to come in the New Year!

[@billyjackson9107]

Yesterday, today, and forever

[@sureits4reall]

Beloved Daniel, this needs to become a book or teaching aid in print. Way too important for just one format!!!!!

[@Travis_Rosenthal]

This was another great addition to the series. I would seriously consider doing more stuff like this in the future Daniel. You’ve got a talent for it.

[@tiff_jane]

The Lord has led me to a Baptist church and truly opened my own eyes to the prejudice I had in my heart towards more cessationists type doctrine. Not to say all Baptist are cessationists, and in fact, most at my church are not, though many do hold on to a lot of cessationists' ideals. There have been frustrating moments and I have felt like a fish out of water there so often after growing up pentecostal and then belonging to a non-denominational church but talking on these platforms has made me realize I am far from the only one being called to cross the line we've drawn in the sand. God is definitely moving and uniting us. Piecing the parts together that both sides have gotten right and helping us to accept one another. It's exciting, and this has been an incredible series of encouragement. I can't wait to watch as more episodes are hopefully released soon! 😊

[@caryallen9733]

oh dear where did that reply go.Only just suggested not being forceful can make up your own mind.

[@caryallen9733]

why isn't my reply showing below your comment?

[@tiff_jane]

@@caryallen9733 I honestly have no idea what your comment was or why it isn't showing but it isn't the first time I've seen KZbin hide comments. Just not sure why they do.

[@Randy777day]

Even witnesses several Bonafide miracles will not rock he hardened cessationists. Sad....

[@christianthames2302]

You're so good at these teachings bro even better than Remnant radio. I hope you keep these teachings going even after the cessationist series.

[@DanielKolenda]

Thank you for the encouragement!

[@caryallen9733]

good luck @

[@romans828.]

Remnant radio are children who are self centered and fail to mature.

[@JewandGreek]

I did videos rebutting all of the Strange Fire speakers a few years ago. I actually felt that Tom Pennington did a poor job on cessationism. One of his points was that the gifts aren't being used properly today. That's not an argument for cessation. It's an argument for correction.

[@DanielKolenda]

Great point!

[@Randy777day]

Even those who grudgingly concede that tongues and the gifts are for today, when asked, cannot cite a single instance/person in their entire denomination.

[@unknown_amazing_chap4480]

Praise God for you, brother Daniel! God inspired you to do this series because Jesus Christ is coming back for a bride that is spotless. So cessationists should actually be glad for this series because the Bible says that they will know the truth and the truth will make them free!

[@danielcornide4927]

This is My Second Go Around on this whole series!!! What a Feast for The Body of Christ to feed on, meditate on, and reformulate their Theological misconceptions! LORD we come in Humility and Pray that We would come to Unity of The Faith✝️👑♥️🔥🙌🏼

[@DanielKolenda]

Amen. Thank you Daniel 🙏

[@dianebergsma7898]

Probably my favorite episode on this topic!

[@christinemalcolm6668]

Agreed. You have to actively work to deny that miracle doesn't happen anymore. Thank you, Pastor Daniel. I pray that God will continue to give you revelation knowledge and wisdom

[@Supercre8ive1]

Another excellent contribution to this series. Thank you. Man of God

[@Randy777day]

amen!

[@sandyanderson859]

I don't think their eyes can see. I was brought up in cessationism, and I searched for truth many years. I studied, read many books and opinions on the baptism of the Holy Spirit. Read through the book of Acts. Asking God to show me...He did lead me to a church that helped me understand. I was so rigid from my upbringing though. I thank God for showing me the way, because that was the key to learning and understanding the gifts. I don't think they'll ever see without belief that they need to be baptized by Jesus in the Holy Spirit and fire. My Christian life is in 2 parts, night and day, before and after being baptized in the Holy Spirit... The change is so amazing, His gifts are real and the old man is truly gone. Praise God!! 🙏💟

[@thecrossalways]

Cessationism is a tool of the devil to destroy the faith of the saints, to keep them from receiving God's grace and power in miracles. If you can only believe...all things are possible to him who believes (our beloved Lord Jesus in Marc 9:23). Simply put, cessationism is a theology of unbelief.

[@chrismackey475]

Thank you for delving into this so thoroughly. I'm glad you mentioned John the immerser. He has been on my mind recently. I would love to hear your take on what Jesus was actually saying when He said John was the Elijah to come prophesied in Malachi. It seems like such a contrast. One a great worker of miracles, the other did no miracle. I've been contemplating (Matthew 11:11), "Amen, I tell you, among those born of women, none has arisen greater than John the immerser." Tree of Life version. The scope of these words blows my mind. Even Isaiah prophesied his ministry. This would put him above Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Samuel, David, Isaiah, Elijah, Elisha, and every other prophet. This, of course, excludes Jesus, because John said, "The One who comes after me is above me, because he existed before me." (John 1:15) I 'm thinking it has to do with his role in what actually happened on the day Jesus came to be baptized. We know that John is a Levitical priest because he is a descendent of Aaron. As Jesus approached, John declared, "Behold, the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world," In effect, he, the Levitical priest, was approving the Lamb of God as spotless and without blemish, completely innocent before God, thus approving the sin offering, and fulfilling the requirement of the law of Moses. "Then Jesus, came from the Galilee to John, to be immersed by him in the Jordon. But John tried to prevent Him, saying, 'i need to be immersed by You, and You are coming to me?' and Jesus responded, 'Let it happen now, for in this way it is fitting for us to fulfill all righteousness.' So John yielded to Him." (Matthew 3:13-15) So the High Priest was approved and baptized by the servant priest. "After being immersed, Jesus rose up out of the water, and behold, the heavens were opened to Him, and He saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and coming upon Him. And behold, a voice from the heavens said, 'This is my Son, whom I love; with Him I am well pleased!' " (Matthew 3:16-17) So the Lamb is also approved by the Holy Spirit and the Father. Because if this incredible moment in history, we can all declare worthy is the Lamb! Halleluiah! I think this is why Jesus declared him to be the greatest man born of women. Just my take.

[@thosewhobelieve122]

I’ve experienced 3 healing miracles in my body…eyes restored, hearing restored and bulimia destroyed. The last one I wasn’t even a follower of Christ when it happened but God heard my cry for help. I don’t think I have extraordinary faith. Jesus said we need faith as small as a mustard seed and anything is possible. I think you have to actively work hard to deny that miracles still happen today to not experience them. God is gracious and kind and wants to demonstrate His power to us.

[@elijahmcgrath5918]

Do miracles confirm divinely appointed messengers? Sure! Because of the great commission ALL CHRISTIANS are divinely appointed messengers! The signs confirm the gospel being preached, not the preacher. They comfirm the message of the kingdom of God, but not the messenger. He has empowered all of us to go and preach the gospel with power to demostrate that the King has come!

[@suzannemartin6817]

But WHY do cessationists want miracles to have ceased? Why are they trying so hard to get rid of miracles?? That is so weird.

[@DanielKolenda]

Great question! 🤔

[@sharonwhiteley6510]

I am 68 yo. When I attended school, debates were based on facts and not feelings. The only safe zone was around a teacher. Also, even in my younger years in school, our teachers would ask us a very simple questions: Why do you believe a certain comment or answer? Can you prove it? Except for a few areas like math or parts of science, which wasn't racist at that time, you had to be ready. You may have been wrong and the mistakes corrected by looking things up, but we had to think on our own. Our minister had a Q&A time for kids. Or if he was having dinner at my grandparents, he thoroughly enjoyed us asking questions about the Bible. He was never one of those who said "Because I am the minister and you can't question my authority ". If the spiritual gifts ended, aren't you saying that your faith has ended? It's like the apostasy of the pope and many churches adopting man's laws instead of teaching GOD'S word. I believe in the power of prayer. I believe in the spiritual gifts. Under Biden, anyone who is a Christian and a patriot are: Domestic extremists. A national security threat and enemy of the state. We are a bigger threat than nuclear war and their climate change cult religion where you love the creation but not GOD. It's time for Christians to come together instead of fighting among ourselves. Together we can push back against the apostasy and pushing the adoption of man's laws over GOD. May GOD bless

[@dorothyvanderwalt1198]

How feeble to reason that all God's miracles are recorded. How they limit the magnitude of God's power.

[@4jesus1981]

In 2016 I contracted hepatitis C. It was even my fault because I was using needles I cried and cried to the Lord and begged for healing. I went to a Revival not long after that and a woman came and told me I was healed after I was leaving an alter call. I went back to the doctors and they said that I did not have Hepatitis C anymore I even took my mother in because I was so sure they were going to tell me I didn't have it anymore. I brought my mother along which is also a Pastor. She heard the doctors. I have documented medical proof that I had it and now I don't. This is only one of several times I know I've been healed. Praise the Lord

[@JimiSurvivor]

"Kundalini" is the latest pretence to having insight. Any deviation from Cessationist belief or practice is said to be "Kundalini" even if those who are involved deny having those views. The religious ancestors of the Cessationists were the heresy-hunters of old. It is only natural that these men should be known for their heresy hunting.

[@margaretlim6535]

Thankyou for sharing

[@ThembaMaselane]

Interestingly Daniel a teacher of the Bible once pointed out that comparing the book of Esther to one of the minor prophets which mentions the name of the Lord God more times in contrast to Esther yet the hand of God was more manufest hear as opposed to the book that mentions his name.

[@jasonmason6909]

My high school home school kids are starting logic next year!!

[@DanielKolenda]

Nice! 😅

[@clifflee5404]

The way you present it... Cessationism seems equivalent to "unbelief!" I wonder if they see it like that?

[@yan24to]

I wonder if Justin Peters is watching this.🤔

[@ThembaMaselane]

If he can't discredit Daniel he will find something about him to justify his preconceived belief that he is a false teacher from hell

[@danielcornide4927]

God Bless Justin Peters! My prayer is for His Supernatural Healing!!! 🙏🏼🙌🏼🔥We Believe LORD

[@VeresaSimmons]

Thanks Jesus!

[@billyjackson9107]

Cessationism is Religious people making the Word of God of none effect,, through their traditions

[@yan24to]

Is that the same as having a kind of religion, but denying the power thereof?

[@drdennisramdinmawia1508]

thank you

[@israelcrawford8734]

Can you give a list of the type of miracles and the verses?

[@BearWithMeProjects]

Praise God! I'm thankful for this series! I'm at Grace Community and I also struggle with their dry preaching devoid of miracles.

[@sharonwhiteley6510]

What about Stephen calling out as he was being stoned and fell asleep so he didn't feel the pain in Acts?? David, the smallest of his brothers and everyone around, slaying the giants?

[@muluehagos4151]

Evangelist Dani the Lord bless you❤ much love and respect man of God thank you for standing for the truth.

[@dr.andrecranfordministries1008]

So clear so concise so precise thank you❤

[@hughblackman7561]

Why is it so difficult to state that cessationism is in essence demonically inspired; to make clear that Jesus made it clear to his disciples that the Holy Ghost would lead them in all truth John 14:17;26. On this basis it should be clear that the Spirit of truth is not in them. This should be made clear against their foolish arguments.

[@dmitriikilishek]

@DanielKolenda thanks Daniel, that's a good food for thought. I'm thinking, would majority of cessationists fall into category of conservative christians?

[@jesusislord88]

I believe Tom didn't read the whole Bible, or just can't understand it, maybe even blind to it, I pray his eyes are opened to the truth. What all that the other's did miraculously by God's power through them, Judges, King David and Solomon with the different inhuman like strengths and abilities of war and knowledge, not to mention the different mighty men who fought alongside them. There's a lot more miracles to the Bible than the cessationist belief wants to see. I just pray that God has mercy on them, that they are shown the truth and repent of unbelief, because that's truly what it is. I used to lean towards these teachings because of the men I trusted to be good biblical scholars and leaders, until God Himself convicted me by the Holy Spirit that something wasn't adding up as I read and studied the Bible for myself over the past 4 years and experienced miracles and been a part of praying for others to receive miracles as stated in my other comment. All glory to the Most High! 🙌 Also, though an extra biblical source, it is a historical one of the church, I guess that discredit the miraculous event of Polycarp? A man that was taught by the Apostle Paul Himself, when he died well after the scriptures were finished being written, it is recorded that as they tried to burn him alive, Polycarp prayed and wasn't burnt at all. The Roman emperor was infuriated by this so he had a soldier kill Polycarp with a dagger instead and a dove flow out of the fire, then so much blood spilled out from him that it miraculously extinguished the fire that was blazing hot. I guess testimonies like these are just fairytales to the cessationists. To God be all the glory! 🙌 I have to give this testimony here because I feel led to do so. By God's grace, my wife, whom I met in Kumasi Ghana moving here from Texas over 2 years ago to be an evangelist and help reach the unreached, and I were sent to heal someone through prayer and singing songs of praise over them. We shared with about putting their faith and trust in Jesus and blessed them with prayer before we left. These are nore of the details. We went to a woman's home where she lay dying, sent hone by doctors and told she had no hope of survival, she would die soon, I believe it was months. My wife got a call to our foundation we faithfully run that God has blessed us with, and it was the sick woman's mother crying to my wife about her daughter dying, she wanted us to visit her and pray with her. So, we obeyed the Lord in this request and did just that, as I said with prayers, songs, and telling the people around her about Jesus and how He died for our sins and rose again. It was God that sent us and worked through us in our obedience to Him, and the woman was completely healed, in the moment I was there I didn't see anything special or magical happen as cessationalists believe happens, but I will say this was special to me and a miracle already. The woman who was so sick she looked like skin and bones, other than her stomach being very large looking, she could barely sit up, but as we prayed, she gained strength and sat up more strongly and was happy praying and singing with us, though she thought she would die before we got there. We left trusting God that Je had already done a miracle for her. A few weeks after we left I asked my wife about the woman and how she was, she told me the woman was completely healed and they were grateful to God and for us being there and praying for them, all glory goes to Jesus! God does miracles to this day, just because someone says they disbelieve God working through His workers, doesn't mean it's true, no one can take away our own supernatural experiences just because they are lacking in faith from not seeing such things in their ministry. I'd say it's even safe to say their ministers are like that because of their lack of faith in what God can do through His obedient children, so I pray one day they all have a miraculous experience to help their unbelief be and strengthen their faith, as God did for me and my wife. Jesus even had an issue in Nazareth because of unbelief. ⁵⁸ “And He did not do many miracles there because of their unbelief.” -Matthew 13:58 That goes to show you how God intends it for believers working in obedience and miracles if Jesus who is God Himself couldn't do many miracles in a particular place from lack of belief. God bless you for these teachings, and protect you and yours as you continue strong in the faith, going around the world in obedience to our Lord and Savior! 🙏 I want to add another testimony to this, it's just one of many true stories that has happened to my wife before I met her, abd I've experienced personal isntant healings in my body from her praying over me many times, from serious illnesses, to simple ones. My wife, whom I've been married to for a little over a year now, by God's grace, had a dream of her brother going to some occult people wearing a certain type of red cloaks, to fo something that wasn't good, instead of getting what he thought he would get from this meeting, he was sacrificed by this group. My wife woke up in prayer and called her brother and told him the dream, in disbelief he asked her how she could know this information, he was literally about to go to such a meeting, and because she told him and it was perfectly accurate to what he was going to do, he never went which truly saved his life. All of these miracles come from God and our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ works with us through the Holy Spirit when we trust Him, have faith, and obey. 🙌

[@John_Loh_JW]

And perhaps you have not read enough of Tom Pennington. And from what I have witnessed, the same has to be said for Daniel. Tom Pennington clearly states in the sermon I will attach below that he believes that God is and has been executing miracles since the conception of the universe, contrary to Daniel Kolenda's claims, deeming Daniel Kolenda's claim of Tom Pennington's (and cessationists, as Daniel Kolenda said) belief that there was, I paraphrase, only a combined timeframe of 200 years in which God performed miracles in the whole of history, fallacious. In addition, unfortunately, Daniel Kolenda also erroneously interprets Tom Pennington's words starting at 6:05. If Daniel is quoting those from where I think he is, Tom Pennington clearly clarifies misconceptions (one in particular) of the definition and belief (or the inverse) of Cessationism that neither you nor Daniel Kolenda seem to take heed of. Since it would not be ideal to quote Tom Pennington's words verbatim here now, I shall summarise. When Tom Pennington said those words quoted from 6:05, he explicitly said that the three time periods in history that he would proceed to mention was time periods in which the miracles performed were for a special and different purpose. So, I shall turn your words around, and onto yourselves. You and Daniel ignorantly slanders Tom Pennington. Did you two properly do your research on Tom Pennington thoroughly, just like how Tom did not read the whole Bible? And can you understand his claims, in totality, like you claim Tom Pennington is incapable of doing so with the Bible? Additionally. Have you or Daniel truly read the entire Bible, as Tom Pennington has allegedly not done? Worse, do you Continuationists really think you understand it all? If you do, lie, arrogance, and hypocrisy plague your tongues. The proposition that you are capable of understanding the "whole Bible"? Lastly, I would like to make it clear that this is not meant as a sinful attack, but a biblical critique. Sola Fide, Sola Gratia, Solus Christi's, Sola Scriptural, Soli Deo Gloria.

[@jesusislord88]

​@John_Loh_JW to answer your question about reading the whole Bible, I've read it many times, and I have read it daily for more than 3 years now, though I don't have anything to prove to you or anyone else. Though you say it isn't an attack, you are attacking me, and it really doesn't seem Christian like to me. I made a statement about Tom and said I'm praying for him not being rude in any way, if you paid attention to what I wrote, it says I believehe didn't read the Bible, can't understand it, or is blond to it, that wasnt meant as an attack or insult, it was meant as genuine concern because I've learned from many cessationists and by God's grace recently came out of it. To me, it saddens me that you would jump to conclusions based on your beliefs that align with his; you take offense without understanding my heart behind this subject. Now, with that said, not me or anyone else knows everything there is to know about God's word, and I never made such a prideful or arrogant claim, you've only labled me this way without even knowing me. So, just like with Tom, I pray for you and your heart because I meant nothing negative or bad about what I said. That's all I'm going to say about this, so feel free to feel however you want about it and me, and to reply more if you want, but I didn't post my comment to argue with anyone, I posted out of genuine care and concern for cessationists, because I used to be one. Jesus is my Lord and Savior and I've not only seen and been a part of miracles, I myself have been miraculously healed by prayers and laying on of hands, all by God's grace and power in the name of Jesus. No one on this planet can change my mind on that, not even Satan.

[@John_Loh_JW]

*slander *Christus

[@John_Loh_JW]

@@jesusislord88 @jesusislord88 If it was indeed an attack on the wrong objective, I apologise. All I wanted to attack in my reply was heresy and slander. Next, it is okay to not be able to prove whether you have read the Bible from cover to cover. I also cannot do much about it. I am not concerned so much with the answer to that question as I am about a doctrinally sound teacher and preacher being slandered. I cannot ascertain whether your claims are true, El I do not doubt them. I understand that you are saying you never made arrogant claims et cetera, but please bear in mind I used the word "If". I was also aware that you used the word "believe" when saying that Tom Pennington did not read the whole Bible, and/or cannot understand it, and I extend my apologies for any misconstrual on my part. May I kindly inquire where and what I labelled you as? I am also aware that my words can come across as harsh, and I would like to thank you for taking into account my words of "this is but meant as a sinful attack, but a biblical critique", although you do not believe them. As with me, I also posted my reply out of a genuine care and concern for both the doctrinally sound and theologically superior Reformed/Calvinistic Cessationists, and the (perhaps bewitched) Continuationist. I would also like to enquire what exactly you are referring to when you say I jumped to conclusions. I apologise for any misunderstandings.

[@John_Loh_JW]

@@jesusislord88 If you would be so kind to do me, you, and hopefully countless others a favour by telling me if the link I think I have posted here in a separate reply has gotten through? Thanks. And I would just like to ask as a gauge, what is your stance on a "pastor" such as Kenneth Copeland?

[@aliaschannel8877]

I saw in a dream: A certain man of God distaibed to drink the cup of the Lord. I will drink it next year, dregs and all.

[@BoldFollower]

🔥

[@shpresaberisha9610]

❤

[@romans828.]

I've never met a Baptist that wasn't cessationist.

[@AugustJ.k.Nilsen]

Actually more the other way here in norway, at least in my experience

[@danwestonappliedword]

I wonder if the gentiles during Jesus's ministry were able to have more faith than the Jews because they didn't have a learned theology getting in their way? They hadn't been taught by the Pharisees and Scribes how God would and could act. They just saw a miracle worker and believed.

[@DanielKolenda]

Good thought. Religion suffocates faith

[@JimiSurvivor]

So, relatively speaking, even if God were to do a miracle no more than once per a thousand years it still can be seen to be an abundant number of miracles, in light of the totality of HISTORY but let's look at it from God's perspective. If no more than one person is healed per 500 years then, over all, He could, relatively speaking, be seen to be doing HARDLY ANY MIRACLES AT ALL. Why would God be so reluctant to exert His power? Why is He so intent on conserving it (as if He had so little) or is the deficit of miracles due to His having so little mercy for humanity? 1 Surely the arm of the LORD is not too short to save, nor His ear too dull to hear. 2 But your iniquities have built barriers between you and your God, (Isaiah 39:1-2)

[@VeresaSimmons]

🦁Leo the ♌ oh Nokie?!

[@VeresaSimmons]

The sun of righteousness shall arise with healing in his wings...they shall grow up as caves of the stalls ....children that will not lie...Don't quote me on this,look ut up & read it 4 yourselves Stay blessed,& pray 🙏🤳 for Israel & the peace fir Jerusalem Stay up,stay blessed.Today, & for ever❤ ! 😇😇🤥🤓😎🤠🤑!

[@yan24to]

🙏🏼 Amen 🙏🏼