Can I Beat Final Fantasy XII With Attack Only?

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[@JoshuaMarlow-i4w]

Hey Dansg08 do you / will you accept a direct message in regards to a FFX save / play through. Been inspired by one of your challenges and have a questions to run past you

[@adognamedsally]

You can heal with elemental attacks + elemental absorb armors. Also, the Healing Rod (equippable by WHM) bestows Regen on hit. Also, very cool series, can't wait for more!

[@jaredwalley5692]

He could also use measures for Protect or Haste.

[@joshm7347]

Final fantasy 12 is one of my favorites and I feel it’s very underrated in general. Really excited for this attack only challenge

[@SunBleachedGhost]

FF12 is one of the main two FFs i grew up with (the other being ff10) and to this day its still my favorite non-MMO FF game, i absolutely it. The story, the characters, the gameplay, the artstyle. Just an absolute masterwork in my opinion

[@davidlejenkins]

Not that it matters but even though he starts with a gun, Balthier has the slowest attack animation with guns so it's statistically beneficial to have literally anyone else be a machinist.

[@stranger6822]

Same with Fran and archery IIRC

[@DashingDavid]

Yeah. The weapons in this game are mostly based on a specific stat. And since each character excels in a specific stat, generally, there’s objectively a best/worst weapon for each.

[@aiox82]

Loved this. You can use chains to heal as well. If your chain gets big enough, it can give you some small amount of health back.

[@Aqualightnin]

i fully expect this series to end without him knowing what chains are. lol

[@Karifean]

Should be a fun run. Hopefully this allows a good chance for the status infliction on hit weapons/jobs to shine a lot more, especially measures. Going longer without healing outside of combat probably really would require investing into better gear and ranged combat more heavily and early, but yeah it sounds like it'd mainly require a lot of running past enemies to get to save points instead of actually fighting, so... eh.

[@mattcollins8966]

Let’s go!! I love this game. This is my second favorite FF game! So excited to see you play it.

[@mbluedragons]

Watching you do this, has actually inspired me to try to do this challenge run myself. Having quite a bit of knowledge about FFXII I do think I would enjoy this kind of challenge run. I look forward to seeing what kinds of strategies you come up with for this. I msyelf have been brainstorming a number of things I could do to help tackle this thing.

[@TheMoogleKing93]

Finally a game you can beat without even manually selecting the Attack command.

[@EliteSwabby]

Nice first episode! Yeah, healing outside of battle is probably necessary at some point but will unfortunately make a lot of random encounters pretty pointless busywork. Still really interested to see the first boss fight soon.

[@cam9759]

Quick tip on how the guard mechanic works. Each weapon and shield has its own block stat. So the game will roll a guard check with your weapon first, then your shield. So you have 2 chances to block an attack. Thats why main gouge (pretty sure i spelled that wrong) is a great weapon for an evasion tank. I think each character also can evade an attack but i don't remember how that works. So you have potentially 3 chances per attack to avoid damage.

[@feinne7652]

Sort of. It does Shield first, then Weapon, then Parry( 30% Jade Collar only), then Other(Blind/Weather conditions). Ensanguined Shield or Gendarme + 2 Shield Block License give you 100% Block :D

[@MrGreeeeen]

my favorite ff, ty been waiting for more attack only

[@steveh1474]

use gambits! they wont just go hogwild and run off to kill things, if you dont want to fight at all you can just hold the FLEE command and they wont even draw their weapons. even without fleeing, the range to see an enemy and go fight it is still rather small, and its not a problem. theyre not just gonna runoff and pick fights you dont want.

[@harobed96]

Yes! I always love watching these challenge runs on your channel 🎉

[@Azavea]

VERY excited for yet another attack only!! thank you

[@larsrikardsen4964]

Looking forward to this. The attack only challenges have all been bangers so far

[@stephensaunders5059]

This is going to be a good series ladies and gents.

[@geneseeentertainment9532]

Super excited for this one! I was playing 12 last winter, and I was thinking an attack only on this game would be impossible. I hope you can prove me wrong!

[@UMP45chan]

Cant wait to see Dansg forced into a party comp depending exclusively on Penelo

[@tomtaro777]

I'm soooo excited for the next episode! I hope it goes some interesting places and is feasible to do!

[@soli6026]

I love this series I can’t wait to see more. Kiting enemies could be useful in the future

[@cronoluminara6911]

What no way thx bro much love hope everyone has a great weekend

[@JRPG_NC_Journeys]

Berk did it again! He keeps finding ways to get me to rewatch some of my favorite games 😊 Good luck!

[@breezynagga5554]

Seeing this is WILD... I'm literally just starting FF12 and was struggling cause I'm only using attacks 😅 Heard so many good things about it and liking it so far... even though I haven't figured out the combat.

[@miasma82]

Final Fantasy XII is a fantastic game. I have only played the original (not the zodiac age) back when i had a ps2 in my old apartment. Best of luck to you!

[@airkami]

In all seriousness one of the builds I tried myself was a power ranger. Used the trinket(s) that boost atk when low on ho and a bow. It allowed me to clean up a significant early game but kept my health on edge. I played all of 12 and don’t remember it at all. And that is probably why I haven’t played 13 to completion.

[@theoh1938]

Oh this looks like it'll be fun. Can't wait!

[@wesleyesterline7454]

Huge drop thanks man!

[@basurama555]

Funny enough that Balthier and Fran are the worst pick for gun and bow user respectively due to their longer attack animation (same case for Penelo with gun), making them attack less than other characters in the same timespan. Kinda ironic since those weapons are their iconic weapon.

[@uniiin]

FF XII!! One of my favourites along side FFX. FF XII has some of the most amazing compositions, I absolutely adore the music in this game!

[@Decade-c9k]

FF12 is one of my favourite FF games. Its open battle system makes this a very different experience from your Attack Only runs of other games, since you often choose how you fight enemies.

[@McNocs]

YES!! I was worried that there wouldn't be another Attack Only coming.

[@Geishtful]

My favourite FF, so hyped for this one.

[@user-Aaron-]

What makes it your fav?

[@Geishtful]

@@user-Aaron- I find the games setting really intresting and Ivalice as a world intriguing. I also really enjoyed the hunt system, finding all the monsters and defeating them felt great. Combat and especially the gambit system really resonated whit me, essentielly programming out the busywork of combat. While story and characters left a lot to be desired (excluding Balthier). It still holds a very special place in my heart.

[@BOSIE321]

You're going to be using that speed up option a LOT with this one! Wish you the best, am sure you'll conquer it like the others.

[@sdduke01]

I shall show this episode as much love as is legally possible!

[@Zarrakaii]

Showing some love !

[@Jordash45]

I definitely have more doubt about this game more than the others as this one has some bosses with big health pools and some nasty status ailments, particularly Sap and Disease. As well as some bosses that hit like cement mixers. It will be extremely interesting to see how this series plays out.

[@dayphaser]

This'll be good!

[@metleon]

Before watching this, I'm thinking it is very much possible to beat the game, since you could just grind a ton and the attack restriction shouldn't prevent you from getting the best equipment, either. I also think elemental ammo with absorbing armor will be very effective for healing, and measures will actually be useful.

[@johngraham6963]

been waiting religiously for someone to do a no gambit run, attack only seems close enough tho will giver a watch

[@engageimmerse7384]

Looking forward to this run!

[@DashingDavid]

Your issue in the waterway is being under leveled. If you notice the Steerling have a yellow name. Which means they’re a bit above you. Red means they’ll destroy you.

[@diacor4life489]

Yess! Here we go again! 🥳

[@breezyphontain9686]

The mechanics of the chests are the same in this version. But the good thing is they have a chance to respawn if you leave the area and come back. The og version you had to go two screens over in order for the chest to respawn lol

[@55Ironside]

So in theory; what's the plan to get around the whole "Immune to Physical Damage" thing some bosses have? Been awhile since I've played but I'm pretty sure Vayne get's it in some forms, the rest may be hunts though so won't stop you from completion of the game

[@Zahri8Alang]

8:19 I remember during one random playthrough of mine with the original version, this boss(which was supposed to be easy, cuz the other characters, and especially Basch will carry you through damage and healing) Like literally did its Cinematic Attack like 3 times back to back, literally killing me instantly😅😅😅😅

[@Aqualightnin]

chests are often like this example: 90% chance of gil, 10% chance of item. then if it hits item it usually has a common and a rare, so like 90% chance potion, 10% mage masher. so 9/10 times it will only have gil, then the 1 time it'll have an item which is most likely a potion. but 1/10 times you open it AND get item, it'll be the mage masher weapon. if you're after that weapon, you gotta leave and return a bunch and hope for some luck, as 1/10th of 1/10th is an average of only seeing that weapon 1% of the time. sometimes it 50/50 gil/item, and then 50/50 junk item or good item, so in those cases its closer to 25% to get the good item. just gotta look up the chests and determine if its worth it to farm em or not.

[@joshuawightman4461]

Balthier has one of the slowest gun attack animations apparently, thats the main thing i would have looked at for each character

[@Paul-to1nb]

This is gonna get wild around episode 3 or 4.

[@Shinybook51]

Love to see it, FF12 is so fun :)

[@fredluttrell4187]

Great choice!

[@thebaseliner520]

I truly enjoyed ff12 when it came to the states befire the zodiac age and still enjoy it to this day... will take it over 13 any day

[@airkami]

Something makes me feel like you can still use the gambit system a little bit but obviously there will be less need for those and for licenses. It will be interesting to see if you get the missable spear that makes many bosses quite easy. It is nice that you won’t be speed running levels up. I like when you brought up the great aspects and the two bunny girls were just chilling on screen lol

[@abysswalker9534]

Gambits will still be nice if he wants certain targets focused. If he decides he needs a big power up he could do the rng manipulation for the uber weapon anyone can equip and get it for each member. (not saying which one, where, or how. If you know you know)

[@timothypearson9728]

I definitely think this will be an easy series. TZA is not a hard game to begin with, it was balanced around having one job but you get two jobs after Belias... Huge stats, multiple weapon and armor types per character lets you be very flexible. Elemental attacks + absorb for healing, measures and accessories can buff you... Probably most broken of all, you can just run by open world enemies very easily. I always found magic underwhelming in TZA because I liked to sequence break and you can get very powerful gear from chests, but magic is typically gated by story progression, so you can get very OP in an attack only style without even trying to do your specific challenge 😅 The main thing that sucks is no way to steal, which I think is the only way to get certain items. And of course you won't be able to do Chaos, so you'll never be able to do the full 100 trials 😔 Edit: just finished watching. You're still learning the game but once you get the hang of it, you'll be fine. Some tips: - Instead of fleeing, turn off your gambits and just run. Your characters can't evade/block while fleeing. - You can switch party leader in combat to take control and reposition your ranged attackers. - Set combat speed to fastest, otherwise you lose ATB against CT:0 enemies. - If you choose to grind for some gil (you're missing out on a lot of income by never stealing), a quick method can be to go into trial mode. The first trial has a chest that contains a diamond armlet which sells for 6000 gil each. Honestly I recommend this just so you can get the monographs quickly, they give you access to another loot table on types of enemies, which will help supplement your income. A side note that each run of trial mode 1 will also net you some LP which will also make you a bit more OP, unfortunately. You don't have to spend it though. - I know you want your gambits this way to maximize your control but it really is better to just have them set to attack lowest HP. - Lastly, regarding jobs... Ranged jobs are usually crap. Their accuracy is subject to weather penalties. Use two melee at a minimum. And three melee is even better, so you can leverage everyone's hp for taking hits. I know you mentioned a concern for AoE, but it's not that common and you can adjust if you encounter AoE. The best damage dealing jobs are Monk, Knight, Uhlan, Foebreaker, and Bushi. A Bushi will be squishy until you can get a second job so maybe make Bushi the second job. I honestly wouldn't bother with a Shikari, nor a Time Battlemage. The best part about Time is their magic but you'll never use it. Just run a second/third Machinist. Archer can be okay (as a second job) but I wouldn't be using them as an Archer unless I needed the range/elemental arrows.

[@pippofranco879]

f**k yeah I'd been waiting for this one

[@lorenz929]

arent there scales that give buffs on hit? then some other form of attack healing. also, is seitengrat allowed? lol, otherwise, i forgot if there are bosses that cannot be hit by an attack. otherwise, should be doable. will be fun to see if he looks into those scales and atk form of healing/buffs

[@michaeltaylor3449]

It’s really sad that so many people’s first version of 12 is tza cause uncapped boards were so peak and 10 reminiscent

[@BrundzOG]

Christmas came early!! 🎉

[@breezyphontain9686]

You also might wanna look into using the measure weapons. It feels like the game kinda went out its way to give people a way to play different styles. Also if youre feeling adventurous.......use the axes and hammers 😂

[@Thysanoptera]

Curious to see if the final boss can be beaten with this restriction.

[@biscariot1074]

A seitengrat for each character would make this a breeze.

[@Ranakel]

My FFXII knowledge isn't quite up to date, but I believe Fran archer and Balthier machinist are actually traps unfortunately. Given that's kind of their "intended" weapons they have fancier animations with these that take a bit longer. I hope these few frames every attack won't have much of an actual effect in the long run, but only time will tell. Worst case scenario, the second license board will be there.

[@DannyCheatTV]

Had no idea about this!

[@TerraEpon]

@@DannyCheatTV The actual gameplay impact is actually pretty minimal. Unless you're min-maxing it really doesn't matter at all. It's extremely unlikely to cause a scenario where he would have won with different characters on those jobs -- a bigger impact would be the raw stats, really.

[@abysswalker9534]

It is literally only important in 100% speedruns to min max characters with the weapons they have the fastest animations in. I have long since stopped watching them though because.....its absurd

[@alexanderwieland7371]

That is awesome 👏

[@reunion_k9375]

i love the judges in the game

[@maggiebrinkley4760]

Another attack-only challenge! Woo-hoo!

[@DashingDavid]

This version isn’t easier bc you get 2 grids. Depending on what you pick there’s significant overlap. And in general overlap no matter what. It’s not like you’re getting 2 full, empty grids to unlock stuff with. The original version is the easiest bc everyone can get everything.

[@karavandriver7294]

I like watching people play ff12, but I’ve never liked the game itself. The gambit system was an all right unique mechanic, but I’ve just never understood why people like this one so much. I’ll be looking forward to this series and maybe it’ll give me the motivation to finish the play through I left off like 8 months ago. Subscribed 👍

[@moonlitxangel5771]

I think a big reason comes from the fact that it plays similarly to an MMO. I think actually the battle system (not so much gambits but the rest) is very similar to FFXI. So that's one reason people like it so much. It's also very customizable with the license board and the gambit system overall so it lends to making each playthrough a more unique experience rather than "here's Tidus and he's your warrior character and here's Yuna and she's your white mage". Their stats are tuned to certain jobs, but they can still play well as anything you choose for them. Then of course with the zodiac job system that limits things a little bit (I think a lot of people prefer the original) but it also has some uniqueness in the different job combinations.

[@reginaldh2079]

Brilliant 👏

[@davidcardona2133]

Dansg if you wanna be a pos like me you should get 6 copies of the seitengrat from the airship 😅 or 6 copies of the deathbringer from the rare mimic in barheim passage early on

[@Flapalapagus]

Can you beat FF14 with just attacking though?

[@DaitylSword]

Commenting to boost the algorithm

[@Aqualightnin]

you are aware you can assign commands to everyone right? instead of pausing to issue the attack command with vaan then waiting 7 seconds for the other two to wake up, you can just issue all 3 to attack. if you're wanting to have everyone start an attack. (or change your gambits from party leaders target to just nearest visible, they'll pick up targets on their own, and faster)

[@kenji4330]

You really didnt need to give penelo anything, she helps you slap some 30 hp monsters and thats all

[@Zahri8Alang]

Ooo, is this challenge the first time Measures are actually useful?😅😅😂😂

[@clearspira]

Finally! Dan is playing The Phantom Menace! I kid. FFXII will actually be good.

[@Ravnesss]

will everyone be default class

[@TheFlyingV]

Oh wow, balances (edit: measures) might end up being useful.

[@abysswalker9534]

...dear god your right.

[@Zahri8Alang]

The thing 5hat always baffle me about the battle system in this game is why the heck is Quickenings Physical damage? Cuz it only scales with Strength stat and level?(Not to mention dealing damage base on random power value)

[@abysswalker9534]

Its because this ensured they would not be affected by resistances or vulnerabilities. I dont remember if they ever applied piercing to them to ignore defense, and strength is usually the highest stat unless equipped solely as a mage. Even with 1 mage job and 1 martial job, strength is usually higher. Odd note...i think back in OG 12 (i could be wrong that was forever ago) the non-element spells like scathe actually dealt physical damage but went of your magick stat and spell formulas for damage. Not 100% on that one

[@Zahri8Alang]

@abysswalker9534 it's a huge hassle when some superbosses puts up their physical paling, nullifying physical damage taken. And since it doesn't really have visual indicator(you're only notified via the battle log), it can be easy to miss even when it inadvertently wears off. Scathe, Flare, Scourges deals magickal damage and even the Horology Technick deals non-elemental magickal damage and is mitigated by shell(except Horology which does fixed, time-based damage). Magical damage also doesn't wake up Sleeping targets in this game In the original version, being Silenced doesn't allow use of Quickenings, which would really confused some newcomers to the game Quickenings by themselves uses only the character's Strength stat(nothing else), but the caveat is that the power it deals based on the rank of quickening and the power range the RNG decides) Concurrences are unique that it instead has its potency based only by the rank of the concurrence AND it scales with the TARGET's level, to all enemies in range from the initial target

[@Zahri8Alang]

Oh forgot to mention, the Quickening potency is both determined by a RNG of the Strength stat and the Quickening's power ranges. So the worse a single chain can do is like of the potency of 1STR x 1Power). Literal 1 damage

[@bahabahabahabahb1763]

I am so hype for this challenge dude

[@steveh1474]

check the options menu for a battle speed slider, as well. you can change the rate at which all gauges fill by setting it to the highest or lowest speed, but it doesnt change the rate at which you run around the map. why would this help? at the lowest speed, the monsters will have lots of time to chase you and catch you before your attacks fill and shoot them. at the highest speed, you will shoot them before they can catch you! sometimes youll want to take more control of the battle, so slowing things down can be a great idea. slow it down when you plan on fleeing through an area without taking a single hit. youll run past them before their gauge fills, and theyll never catch you to strike you! if youre actively engaging in combat, speed things up so you can get some more strikes in before they can catch you!

[@eW91dHViZSBpcyBjZW5zb3JzaGlw]

@@steveh1474 Smart

[@CODE-ur7ih]

Can Final Fantasy beat Dansg08 with only game ?

[@KojiFrost]

Seitengrat and elemental weapon, eZ😅

[@LandosssvideogamesPoe]

Best game ever?

[@xarrox123]

Awesome

[@stranger6822]

Completely agree about the story. It never connected with me, either, and I think I know why. Plot wise, the story is about humanity taking control of its destiny back from external forces. Rabanastre wants to be free of the empire, and Cid wants humanity to be free of the unseen gods controlling man's destiny through nethicite. Thematically, the story taps into the horrors of war and mankind's devastation of the environment. Vaan and Penelo have almost nothing to do with either the plot or the game's themes. That's the problem. Vaan wants to take revenge for his brother's death, and Penelo seemingly wants nothing other than to live a normal life. Not very compelling. Balthier and Fran should have been the main characters. They have the biggest ties to the game's plot and themes, are directly tied to several important characters, and are better designed and more fleshed out than Vaan and Penelo. If the game had centered on them and their story, then the story would have hooked players.

[@Esteinb89]

The "My strategy playing any rpg when I was a kid challenge"

[@michaelcitrino5339]

Game is mostly solved with 1 gambit. Foe: Lowest HP - Attack Also I believe sextants give positive buffs to allies if you attack yourself. They do next to no DMG and will wake sleeping characters.

[@TetrAggro]

Finally a run that sextants get some use lol

[@that_guy691]

You can get as many deathrbingers for free once you reach the feywood there's a chest in the middle that respawns when you leave the area be careful it has a trap on it but you can get close enough to get the chest without triggering it

[@KaptainKrezzy]

Isn't that part of the Feywood only unlocked after Draklor? I think you're able to buy Deathbringers from a shop once you're at the point in the story, at least in TZA. Free's always better, but I think I'd rather have them before running through Feywood with attack only.

[@princessmagical]

​@@KaptainKrezzyI got 3 deathbringers from a chest in Barheim passage which requires a sidequest and you have to keep leaving the area and returning. Most of the time it's a mimic chest though so that's why you have to keep returning to the particular chest. Like two or three screens over and returning.

[@breezyphontain9686]

You can get them from the baraheim passage chest. Very early in the game. Gotta be careful tho

[@windwaker0rules]

I get the feeling that if he does optional bosses there is going to be a lot of Seitengrat cheese

[@Shinybook51]

Doubtful, RNG manip on PC is not really a thing and I don't see him giving it to himself

[@windwaker0rules]

@@Shinybook51 I guess its easier to get maxed out stats and fire absorb break hp equipment with only attacking in ffx, than entering the deck 30,000 times.

[@TerraEpon]

@@Shinybook51No need to RNG manip when you can very easily just hack things in. But he said in the video he'd avoid it anyway. I don't see it being that useful over the general best gear anyway in this type of challenge outside of Yiazmat where you can cheese him out of range. And there's no way he's even getting to Yiazmat.

[@bronysaiyan5236]

​@@TerraEponthat bow is double the damage on zodiac spear. Its absolutely worth it lmao

[@Moonstar343]

interesting start to the series So weapon types in 12 are REALLY WEIRD In an EXTREME summary, some use the character’s speed to calc damage, some use strength, some use vitality, some use magick and strength combined, etc…… so some characters ARE better at using some weapon types over others Not to mention different weapon types just charge the atb gauge faster or slower Guns and crossbows being the slowest I believe, with daggers(?) being fastest (idk I didn’t fact check that) And then the weapon type ALSO affects how often you can do combos, all polearms and “ninja swords” have innate high combo rates for example but some specific weapons can also have the trait …unfortunately, despite having a gun as his “main weapon” in artwork, balthier’s damage output with them is… pretty bad I verbally said “oh… no” when hearing you gave him machinist/guns 😅 But hey! That just makes it more interesting, right? Can’t wait to see more~

[@RetroKid]

I can't even beat this game normally with no limitations, and you're doing it with just using attack?! Geez.

[@diacor4life489]

It's weird to see Flee being allowed in an attack only run, I think the rule should be that if an enemy aggros to you, you have to fight it

[@steveh1474]

i think the builds i would ultimately use in an attack only playthrough would be Monk, Uhlan, Bushi, Knight, Archer, Shikari. machinist guns are generally bad if youre allowed to level up. monk uhlan archer can hit flying enemies, knight is heavy armor tank, bushi and shikari are combo crazy damage dealers. i might consider foebreaker or time mage instead of shikari or knight, but the other 4 are absolutely the most useful jobs for just constant attacking.

[@bronysaiyan5236]

I was thinking foebreaker for oil bombs and then burnimg bow fire arrow archer for 150% fire damage attacks

[@johnmcbruce215]

So basically... can 12 year old me beat this game 😂

[@dustinharrell9647]

❤❤❤

[@mevludz]

Bein watching your ff12 run for last few weeks, and kind wished u go back at it

[@icaronekimura2234]

i would recommend an uhlan, for the soul porpose of using the holy lance, combine that whit a white mask and you could heal yourself for a big amount

[@ashtonv418]

Probably... but why? ; - )))