Dante Training: Using Dante to turn your Laptop Into A Mixer

This video will show you the world of possibilities using the Dante IP Based Audio Protocol. If you are a church that is looking to go mobile or looking to improve your audio production this I recommend looking into Dante. This video will focus on turning your laptop into a mixer but it will also show you so much more.

[@decastring]

"Get out of 1995" Love that, and it's so true!

[@brilliantcellsllc]

Your video has blessed my life. I am a retired Electrical Engineer and aspiring audio engineer. Thank you for awakening me to the benefits of Dante networks for God’s house throughout this land.

[@shinbonethelone]

Thanks Pastor, this has been so informative! 🙏

[@amdenis]

Phenomenal video- very helpful for many people. I have done multimedia work for about 4 decades now, and founded or helped create a few major US media labs, and I keep up on a lot of the gear necessary to run my current music, broadcasting and post production studios. I mention this in way of saying that all of my research and efforts aligns with your recommendations.

[@EqDior]

Awesome vid. love the presentation.

[@lastationvideo5101]

Awesome video and funny too ! I watched it all the way from Bretagne in france being interested in Dante, home studio and music of course ! I Learned a lot, it inspired me. Your energy and voice are amazing. Thank you !

[@musicjazzvez]

Is the first time watching you! Thank you!

[@AdamMundok]

Nice job! Thanks for sharing ✊🏽🎛🎚🎶👏🏼

[@Cyb3rt33n]

This was great - Nice overview!

[@peteytwofinger]

super cool , thanks for sharing !

[@kevinbaker4693]

Excellent. God Bless Big Bro.

[@bosslenz2766]

My brother, thanks more than a million! I feel like I just went to grad school. Thank you for the education! Will see you on the website.

[@PreachAndPlay]

Thank you!

[@MarvinSheats]

This has been great. Thank you so much Pastor.

[@musicjazzvez]

I am interesting to learn more about gospel music and church technology! Thank you for sharing! Blessings!

[@PreachAndPlay]

Contact me

[@AlfLoveJ]

Thank you, God bless you

[@mtso1122]

Thank you so much. You may also try NDI. This will transfer video and audio and remote control as well

[@Vrollocks]

Thank you Pastor Casper Corder!

[@PreachAndPlay]

You’re welcome sister V. I’ve recorded a whole series on Dante Audio, and more. Releasing March 1. It’s going to be highly informative

[@Vrollocks]

@@PreachAndPlay Great!!!!

[@waboway7354]

Can't believe Yamaha actually released a stage box that can connect to anything digitally via DANTE ( most manufacturers allow you to connect only to their own console/mixer). I even asked ( in 2020 or so ) someone at a reputable online store if I can purchase something like this and he said " no , you can't go from a stage box straight to computer." This is a GAME CHANGER. Thank you for sharing this !!!

[@PreachAndPlay]

Yes, The Yamaha TIO 1608 is great. I'm planning to purchase two more for my church and my production trailer.

[@morsikpl]

This works with any Dante stagebox - Yamaha, Tascam, Alleh&Heath, whatever... First Yamaha Rio should work because it's still Dante, so since like 2009 or longer... but it costs. Stagebox cost a lot of money and PCIe card costs also a lot of money. You can use Dante Virtual Soundcard which costs like $60, but it has too much latency for realtime monitoring so for mixing you would want PCIe card which has Ethernet input for Dante audio but is visible as regular sound card in software. Another problem with this solution is preamp control. Dante protocol specifies only how audio travels through the network. But all preamp configuration (gain, +48V, sometimes even analog Lowcut directly on preamp) is all propietary and you can't control Yamaha stageboxes from Alleh&Heath or any other console - works only with Yamaha, so you need Yamaha remote control software on your computer to setup gains/phantom power. That might not be much issue in studio (as many other audio interfaces has such software), but for live applications sitting with tablet and Yamaha app opened just to setup gains on gig is totally terrible user experience.

[@ethioacousticsoundwosen8551]

God bless you

[@ilosngolo4930]

Thank you

[@AnthonyBalogun]

Meeen! Aren't you a blessed man? Yes! you are blessed for this video. Your pace, the content and style of training will make any dummy grab a whole lot. Thank you for this phenomenal video. I'm gon hit you up to help further for my church migration from analog to digital audio routing. Thanks brother.

[@PreachAndPlay]

Hit me up man. PreachAndPlay.com

[@killaken2000]

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[@midimike88]

Great!!

[@ernesthall91]

Hey bruh I’m new your channel really enjoy this information I will be in touch need more thank you sir

[@edletmusic3463]

God bless you for this education…Please can I use Yamaha mg16 analog mixer in place of the stage box?

[@PreachAndPlay]

So you don’t understand how stage boxes work. The stage like a mixer has inputs. The difference is the stage box sends the information back to the mixer via cat5e or Cat6. The mixer can’t do that. At best the mixer can only be used on the stage as a true mixer with the output of the mixer connected to Dante Dongles. This will put the Mixer on the Dante Network. If you try to buy a bunch of Dante dongles it become and expensive imitation of a stage box

[@vincentdelarosa7294]

how to enable/disable the phantom power of that stage box in times of live performance. Also how to engage the PFL of a certain channel during live show.

[@tedz2000]

Would love to see this work with just Dante Via and dante virtual sound card on a few pcs...Good Explanation

[@PreachAndPlay]

Standby. I’ll do an illustration later tonight. Around 8:30 pm Central standard time

[@jhonnelpica6788]

Thanks for the very informative video. I have a question, can all stage boxes can be directly connect in Dante?

[@PreachAndPlay]

Only Dante enables devices allows you to connect all channels thru the network.

[@joelteixeira3722]

Great video. Could you please explain how do you adjust the gain of the TiO1608 mic pres?

[@PreachAndPlay]

Yamaha has software called “Remote”. It interferes with the Yamaha TIO1608. You can enable phantom power (+48), HPF and mic gain from that software remotely. If you use a non Yamaha mixer you can still control those features remotely via that software and still send the audio information via Dante. Dante and Remote then become two different solutions working together as a team. Hope you understand

[@joelteixeira3722]

@@PreachAndPlay I got it. I didn't know the remote app functionality. I am using on my church tio1608+TF3+dante to feed the DAW which we use to generate an independent mix to the live sound video stream. Vmix get the sound from the dante network. Its a great solution.

[@buildingsheriff]

Hi. Great video. Thanks. Which Presonus mixer are you using to connect to Dante? Thanks!

[@PreachAndPlay]

This is the Presonus Studio Live AI 24.4 with a Dante Card Installed in it.

[@nbulls28]

Hey brother amazing video. We bought the xfa te for our x32 in church. But I noticed that there something not quite right yet with the clock synchronization. I notice when it connects there is 2 red indicators on the clock monitor status. Can you tell me is there anything wrong with it base on your experience?

[@PreachAndPlay]

Sorry I’m just seeing this. I’m not sure. I’d need more info but not sure what a Xfa te is. If you have a Behringer X32 set is as the clock master with internal sync. If you have other devices that are connected to it, connect them together and slave other devices to the Behringer. How they connect and sync depends on the device but if I have more info I can guide you further

[@danbillyboo]

Hello, thank you for your video. I saw in your video you need a mixer Presonus. Is it possible to do this without mixer ? Juste plug your mic in to the Yamaha Tio and use your MAC for mixer to return sound in the Tio Output with Active Speakers ? Thanks !

[@PreachAndPlay]

If you have a computer, Dante Virtual Sound card, and the Yamaha Tio, you don’t need a mixer. The mixer adds the value of zero latency Eq, Compression, etc The computer in theory, depending on software, will yield better eq, compression, etc. Only latency gets added more you use . I do it both ways. Each way has its value

[@PeterMossUkulele]

Thank you for your informative video. I am new to Dante and I think its great. However, why not have a stage box style mixer such as the Behringer x air 18 that has an ethernet port and run a Cat 5 cable to your laptop. If you want to share to other devices, could you not run that Cat 5 cable into a small ethernet hub and distribute to other devices in the loop? - Peter.

[@PreachAndPlay]

That’s only the mixer. What if you have other speakers, laptop, headphones amps, etc. Dante allows you to send or receive to multiple devices. The method you mention is limited and one dimensional. It works as you mentioned but eventually you may want to expand and do more than that configuration allows. With Dante you are future proof and way more flexible

[@PeterMossUkulele]

@@PreachAndPlay I understand it better now. Thank you for your help. I subscribed to you today.

[@dapapster11]

Thanks. I have been hearing about Dante. Have you ever tried to use auto tune with Ableton incorporating in conjunction with Dante.

[@PreachAndPlay]

No I haven’t but auto tune will not effect anything. Auto tune will be applied before the signal gets to the Dante network. I don’t use auto tune in Ableton .

[@claywalker8401]

God Bless. Thank you for the information. I am in the process of changing career fields. There is a large studio and teaching campus near me and they offer the Cisco Dante course. I am in the process of going through the course online through Audinate Dante website. My brother actually runs a successful event planning company and was at the Rock Lititz studio doing a show. He suggested the Adante course. I love music and I really like the mobility of your set up and running it through the laptop. What laptop do you use that will support Adante? Do you offer further training if I subscribe? Also, my wife and I have returned to my Baptist Church and I will look into volunteering and checking out their sound system. I'm blessed to have found your video and easy, mobile set up. I'm very interested in learning more. Any advice will be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

[@PreachAndPlay]

Contact me thru preachandplay.com. Yes I offer further training

[@dove690]

God bless you from London 🙏 would there be any chance to see live how you mix from laptop? I know this is the future of mixing .

[@PreachAndPlay]

I’ll try make this happen for you

[@dove690]

@@PreachAndPlay 🙏 thank you

[@JohnDavidDailyMusic]

how would I connect midas dl32 ?

[@fredriccortez6190]

there are instances that i would need to record 2 midas m32 consoles, for a total of 64 inputs. if i connect both consoles to the switcher, would i be able to assign all 64 inputs to my DAW?

[@PreachAndPlay]

I would use Dante to get my audio in and out of a Computer. At that point yes. The only question is how are you getting audio into computer from the Midas. Dante? Audio interfaces? A Midas feature that outputs directly to a computer? Does your Daw accept 64 simultaneous inputs?

[@rayjohn0814]

Incredible man a lot of churches Need this but they scared of technology

[@PreachAndPlay]

Exactly, which a totally different and bigger problem. But they want excellent audio. Haaaa. You can’t be scared of heights and want a ladder. Your need for the ladder demands you get over your fear of heights. “Metaphorically speaking”

[@emmanuelfrancis]

Hi there. Sir I just stumbled upon your video and saw that you have a presonus mixer on a dante network. Someone else asked the question but you responded to him privately with I think a video which you have not made available to the rest of us, and I too would like to know how you use Presonus which uses AVB to connect to your Dante Network. Thanks and be blessed

[@PreachAndPlay]

I’ll make another video. Short story, you must have. Presonus A.I model which will take a Dante expansion card.

[@corporatejanitors3728]

If have the laptop and the Yamaha Stage box without the switch, can route directly in to the the computer? Like a peer to peer kind if a network, is it possible? Please let me know.

[@PreachAndPlay]

Yes

[@tedz2000]

What’s the difference between VSC and Dante Via

[@stratosFZ1]

Hi there ! One question ... How you control the gain and the phantom power of the pre amps of the Yamaha stage box?

[@PreachAndPlay]

Easy!!! Yamaha software called R Remote. All controls are there.

[@ermagnaye2868]

Hello Pastor, thank you for this. Do you have URLs on these devices so that we can make our own setup? We're also planting a church.

[@PreachAndPlay]

Google it

[@mtso1122]

My church uses studiolive 32.4.2 ai with dante. Do I need to change any settings in the presonus mixer to enable the Dante?

[@PreachAndPlay]

No

[@bkandoh]

Great video. How are you able to see your presonus console on the Dante network since it (presonus) uses a different protocol; AVB?

[@PreachAndPlay]

Great question. I’ll do a quick video to help you understand. I’ll tag you in the video. Give 20-30 minutes

[@sekritskworl-sekrit_studios]

@@PreachAndPlay I'm pretty sure this follows under the same stuff that I am trying to figure out... Like will dante allow a computer to interface with other computers with their own USB interfaces? Also, I found out about something last night called "Dante Via" and the somebody said that "Via" has to be on one of the systems to set the clock between "Virtual Soundcards". Please clarify. BTW: To be clear, I truly appreciate your taking the time to clarify these things. I hope that nothing I am saying is coming across as though i'm arguing or anything. I am asking a lot of questions because i'm trying to understand and figure it out. And, it's a lot... LOL

[@PreachAndPlay]

@@sekritskworl-sekrit_studios long day. I’ll reply tomorrow. Probably by video

[@mtso1122]

Hi, Thanks for the demonstration. May I ask you a question? Do you use audio fusion as in ear monitoring system? I am asking because I want to have digital signal on the Mac for audio fusion and PC for streaming. I am currently using the FireWire to connect the presonus studio live to the Mac and I am not able to provide another digital signal to the PC

[@PreachAndPlay]

My in ears are Sennheiser

[@mtso1122]

@@PreachAndPlay Thanks for the reply. May God bless you and your ministry? Will check your website for more information. I am trying to improve the video and audio in my church

[@PreachAndPlay]

I’ll do a video tomorrow about my in ear system for you. I don’t have that on the website yet. I’ll get it done after church

[@velocityacoustics]

I discovered Dante 4 years ago, and I was amazed at what you could do with it. I've done some Dante work and i have also just got my level 1 certification. But would like to do more. How can i get more involved with Dante? I am in California. I Iooked on your website because I wanted to Email you, but couldnt find an email address on your contact page.

[@PreachAndPlay]

Hey man. I’m updating the website. Goto learn.PreachAndPlay.com to see the new website. Contact info is there. Sorry about that. I’ll answer your question this week

[@junekozono7227]

Hi, can you share briefly how you actually succeed at setting up the network, the IP address, to have your pc successfully communicating with Dante? Thank you very much.

[@PreachAndPlay]

I’m planning a series on this because there’s nothing brief about it

[@debwitt7398]

What’s a budget friendly laptop to purchase for my small church… getting started?

[@pwfchurch]

Budget friendly is way to subjective to give an answer. We need to figure out what you’re trying to accomplish. I’m a Mac user so I recommend Macs

[@melechhaarayot9273]

Can you do some lessons on NDI as well, NDI Audio Direct is perfect for this

[@PreachAndPlay]

I don’t have any NDI gear. I hear it’s good though

[@melechhaarayot9273]

@@PreachAndPlay there is a free NDI plugin for OBS. Also NDI 5 is amazing,

[@PreachAndPlay]

@@melechhaarayot9273 I’ll have to check it out. Thanks

[@user-wc3kj8pf5c]

what do you think about Dante PCIe Soundcard

[@PreachAndPlay]

Great to have. Not necessary for small projects

[@mtso1122]

Hi, may I know what stage mixer are you using that has Dante

[@PreachAndPlay]

One that I’m not a huge fan of but it works. Presonus studio live AI 24.

[@mtso1122]

@@PreachAndPlay Thanks for your prompt reply. Does that mean the unit in the rack is just a digital stage box since studiolive ai series is not a rack? Does the stage box have Dante as well?

[@PadBoll]

What switch are you using ? Are there better one's than other's ?

[@PreachAndPlay]

Hey Alex. I’m using many switches because my setup is interconnected between my entire operation. I have all netgear switches. I’ll give you model numbers once I get back. The important thing to remember is get a “managed switch”. Also, it good to get the extra feature of “POE”. (Power over Ethernet) If you use Dante Dongles, etc they will require power. If you have a switch the you can just get a power “wetter” for each device that needs power but getting POE is one thing I regret not doing. I recommend getting a Managed Switch with POE on a couple of ports. Trust me it’s worth it.

[@benardekaluo9268]

Hi, I'm a new bee to audio engineering... can you recommend beginner audio engineering schools i can attend online. I am from Nigeria and l'll really love to get into this full time

[@PreachAndPlay]

I’ve created a very affordable audio course on my website. I’m not familiar with what schools to goto because this is a career that I’ve entered that allows a measure of on the job training

[@harold12A]

So Dante allows your Presonus to use your Yamaha Stagebox ? Cos I’ve come to learn some mixers only work with their brand stageboxes.

[@PreachAndPlay]

Yes. Dante is not proprietary. Yamaha shows up in Dante controller. Yamaha does too. You make the connections in there and Bam! Magic. I’ll do another video if you need.

[@harold12A]

@@PreachAndPlay yeah I’ll be grateful. We have a Studiolive 32 but the product was discontinued this year as well as their 32 channel stagebox. They’re selling 16 channels which are so expensive we can’t buy 2. I’ve been looking into other branded stageboxes but kept discovering that that protocols were different..

[@PreachAndPlay]

Also, I’ve done productions that have Behringer x32 mixers and Yamaha Tio1608 and Yamaha Rio. If your mixer is dante enabled then you can use a dante enabled stagebox. Period! Goodluck

[@harold12A]

So I’m thinking, with Dante software and a gigabit switch, our Studiolive 32 can use a Behringer stagebox and possible P16ms

[@PreachAndPlay]

Bro! The Tios are $1099 for 16 in and 8 out. They can be tricky getting setup “if” you try to use static ip. But worth it

[@mtso1122]

Hi, My church just received a used Dante card as donation. I plugged in to our SL 32.4.2 AI, but it only has 24 channels. (It maybe connected to 24.4.2 AI previously). Can I reset the card? Also, I don't get any sound even from channel 1 to 24. I have routed the main out to virtual sound card channel 1 & 2 Thank you

[@PreachAndPlay]

Man I have no idea. I would search the forums.

[@PreachAndPlay]

So sorry I couldn’t help

[@mtso1122]

@@PreachAndPlay No problem. Do you need to register the dante card when you setup and configure the dante network? Thank you

[@PreachAndPlay]

@@mtso1122 no

[@mtso1122]

@@PreachAndPlay got it. Thanks again

[@ReneAlexisPenalozaMunoz]

Is that a Yamaha Tio1608?

[@PreachAndPlay]

Yes

[@misterbonzoid5623]

4:00 TRS; not 'TSR'. Stands for 'tip, ring, sleeve' - the order of the contacts.

[@PreachAndPlay]

I know that. Human moment. I didn’t mean to say that

[@trompettepourchrist]

you're back brother, praise the lord. please, could you play : amazing gace in key of c, and f too, like before, when you charnel called : gasper corder,or, could send me the link ? be bless and jesus name.

[@PreachAndPlay]

It’s on my website in those keys. Subscribe to preachandplay.com

[@PreachAndPlay]

Those videos are available on preachandplay.com. Consider subscribing to view. I don’t do this for free anymore. If you contact me privately, I can arrange sending you these videos for a small fee. Thank you for liking our videos

[@andthenwhat3506]

How to connect analog mixer to network switch? 🙁

[@PreachAndPlay]

Did you watch the video?

[@sekritskworl-sekrit_studios]

@@PreachAndPlay Did you cover the connection of the mixer (USB/Thunderbolt/Dante), etc?

[@KishaMiles1]

I am a minister of music fighting with poor sound. Know that you are an answer to prayer

[@PreachAndPlay]

Let’s talk

[@sekritskworl-sekrit_studios]

Wait... is your Presonus Console also Dante enabled?

[@PreachAndPlay]

Yes

[@sekritskworl-sekrit_studios]

@@PreachAndPlay But HOW? I "thought" that Presonus was absolutely committed to AVB and refused to interface to Dante networks? They don't even have any for sale or in their "legacy products" list that I can find.... which model is it?

[@PreachAndPlay]

@@sekritskworl-sekrit_studios did you watch the video? I have another video I want you to watch. Long story short, the Presonus Studio Live Ai is Dante capable via the option $500 expansion card. I use it daily and it works great. However, if you don’t already have this mixer, I would not recommend buying it over many other options. There’s only one advantage this mixer has. Only one!

[@PreachAndPlay]

Presonus 24.4.2 Ai. The optional Dante expansion card makes it Dante

[@mycroftholmes7003]

so what is 29 dollars?

[@darrenmooreham4743]

Was Dante Via purchased?

[@PreachAndPlay]

Yes I purchased Dante Via but don't really use it

[@PreachAndPlay]

There are different subscriptions depending on if you are a musician or media person. Check out the website. Preach and Play.com

[@philscott7949]

"Can't afford $500 for a 4 channel interface, so I''ll just use my *free* Presonus and *free* Yamaha TIO". How about a showing the whole budget for this comparison?

[@MarkOfWA]

There is no clear procedure in the Reaper software to create a virtual mixer configuration to match what you are showing from your screen. In fact, the Reaper user interface is so utterly horrible that I just bought another real digital mixer instead.

[@PreachAndPlay]

Might do a video to answer the question you brought

[@gilmoreskeen1234]

If this was as simple and good then you would not have spent so much time trying to convince your listeners. Sir you just spent too much time trying to convince and not really getting to the point.

[@PreachAndPlay]

It’s called marketing. You speak as if people don’t need convincing to spend money. Comments like yours are a waste of time. Just move on if you don’t like the content. You aren’t who I’m aiming for. Dummy