Why Doesn't It Null? bx_console Amek 9099

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Dan Worrall

Dan Worrall

3 жыл бұрын

In which I take almost an hour to review the new Amek 9099 plugin from Plugin Alliance / brainworx, and still don't cover all the features; I reveal my most compelling reason not to use the FabFilter EQ; and I claim to know better than Rupert Neve when it comes to EQ design. Could I be any more wrong?
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@DanWorrall
@DanWorrall 2 жыл бұрын
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@DJeMo
@DJeMo 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry for the late shout, but I came back to this refresher as I have a choice of adding this amek 9099 channel strip to my collection or I was looking at the new soma eq, any opinion on what freebie I should get big sir?? Appreciate all your insights...
@DanWorrall
@DanWorrall 2 жыл бұрын
@@DJeMo I can't answer that, sorry. I've not tried most of the options, I don't know your tastes, or what you have already. Just pick one, don't overthink it. :)
@DJeMo
@DJeMo 2 жыл бұрын
@@DanWorrall wow thanks for the speedy shout back, appreciate your time and train of thoughts, firm handshakes to you from Northern Ireland 🤝
@zither715
@zither715 2 жыл бұрын
​@@DJeMo the amek 9099 is my main channel strip, i find it saves overusing too many different plugins having all the features it does. I think out of all the brainworx channel stips plugins its capable of sounding the most modern. The SOMA looks really overwhelming in terms of gui for a mixing plugin, but might be good for mastering
@mariusle3385
@mariusle3385 2 жыл бұрын
using multiple eq's from multiple companies, creates your unique sound and gives more color
@miket5314
@miket5314 3 жыл бұрын
I just watched an hour video for a plug-in I never even intend on buying. That’s the Dan Worrall effect.
@deadscenedotcom
@deadscenedotcom 3 жыл бұрын
LOL, me too.
@NikolausBrocke
@NikolausBrocke 3 жыл бұрын
Same with me. After watching the video of Paul Third kzbin.info/www/bejne/eKCsk6KQqKeciM0 it was already clear that I would never buy it.
@soundtoys795
@soundtoys795 3 жыл бұрын
@@NikolausBrocke Paul Third is a newb who's only qualification is he has a decent camera.. You probably know more about audio than him. Dan is someone you can learn from.
@TreyMotes
@TreyMotes 3 жыл бұрын
@@soundtoys795 LOL as if you know.
@lambd01d
@lambd01d 3 жыл бұрын
You always learn something watching Dan's videos.
@itube0103
@itube0103 3 жыл бұрын
This is not just a product review. This IS an education. Hat off to you, Sir.
@dannyjesse3655
@dannyjesse3655 3 жыл бұрын
Its refreshing to hear someone state how they feel about something without any outward self-judgement or sense of withholding.
@mrhay
@mrhay 3 жыл бұрын
And solid evidence, humility and comedy!
@TheFatRat
@TheFatRat 3 жыл бұрын
This is how a plugin review should be done. Great job! BTW, I like the TMT mode. If you run mono signals through the stereo version of the plugin it can give them a subtile stereo image. Interestingly this even happens with all EQ settings at 0. In addition the "Stereo Width" knob is placed at the very end of the signal chain and therefor affects the TMT differences between two channels. So you basically have a stereo maker knob for mono signals.
@jamescuttsmusicjcm5013
@jamescuttsmusicjcm5013 3 жыл бұрын
True dat. :D
@nectariosm
@nectariosm 3 жыл бұрын
Same. Its a great mono to stereo trick that is mono compatible. I use it for synths and it does the job rather well.
@DanWorrall
@DanWorrall 3 жыл бұрын
I did acknowledge that those differences can be useful on stereo channels. But equally, how hard is it to dial in separate L/R EQ with Pro-Q3? And then you get to control exactly where the differences are and how much, instead of just trusting to random chance.
@TreyMotes
@TreyMotes 3 жыл бұрын
@@DanWorrall manually dialing in something on Pro-Q is much more tedious and mundane vs just clicking a button a few times and then adjusting from there, IMO.
@Mansardian
@Mansardian 3 жыл бұрын
@@TreyMotes Really? To enter a decimal on Freq and Gain on the left or right channel?
@mixbustv
@mixbustv 3 жыл бұрын
Oh snap 😂 I love you Dan. I've been wondering nthe same things for a minute
@allpdmusic
@allpdmusic Жыл бұрын
I realize this video is almost 2 years old but I just wanted to say thanks. Such a thorough overview. Great job as always Dan!
@Smelter57
@Smelter57 2 жыл бұрын
I worked for Amek in the late '90 when Rupert was a consultant with them. He didn't like digital consoles either. He told the tale that he got the chance to try a digital desk made by his old firm now AMS/Neve. Touch a control knob and you had to wait for it to light up before you could use it. Not what he would call intuitive. Amek did develop a digital desk while I was there, but I got the impression they were dyed in the wool analogue guys. When the company was bought by the Harman group, they tried to kill off the digital console which p****d off the R&D team. I saw the writing on the wall and left before the company was dissolved.
3 жыл бұрын
Dan's voice with only the waveform as visual is starting to feel like Hal: "This sort of thing has cropped up before, and it has always been due to human error."
3 жыл бұрын
I wish he would use that line in one of his future videos.
@Not-Only-Reaper-Tutorials
@Not-Only-Reaper-Tutorials 3 жыл бұрын
haha if ever he says "I can't do it, Dave" you'll reach the goal 🤣
@russellszabadosaka5-pindin849
@russellszabadosaka5-pindin849 2 жыл бұрын
“Open the oversampling menu, Hal.” “I’m sorry Dave, I’m afraid I can’t do that.”
@Not-Only-Reaper-Tutorials
@Not-Only-Reaper-Tutorials 2 жыл бұрын
@@russellszabadosaka5-pindin849 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@bakharandi
@bakharandi 5 ай бұрын
Dan Wortall got me hooked with his Tokyo Dawn plugin reviews . . . So thoroughly informative, and entertaining . . . ! . . . :-) (-;
@G3rnot
@G3rnot 3 жыл бұрын
Dan ... your Beginners Guide to EQ opened up a world for me. Now you set a standard of how to review a plugin. You are in the best sense an infoencer instead of an influencer. Big Thx.
@_evolj
@_evolj 3 жыл бұрын
You say “thanks if you made it this far” like I wouldn’t willingly sit here for 8 hours and listen to you discuss audio.
@jarrodbiesmann
@jarrodbiesmann 3 жыл бұрын
What do mean "well done of you've meade it this far"? I'm sure all of us enjoyed every second of this and would still keep watching if there was more. I have so much respect for the way you break down plugins and review their features. For me, your tutorials and plugin reviews are so packed with useful information, I'm still watching these videos time and time again. I had a moment of self consciousness when you said the channel strip EQ won't judge you like a visual one. I can honestly recall countless times where if mine were able to, they most certainly would be. Thanks again Dan.
@philburns5656
@philburns5656 3 жыл бұрын
Great to have a such profound review! This is really outstanding from all the other small reviews. Thanks very much, Dan!! It would be great to have this kind of review on the other console that the plugin world is talking off these days, the BlackBird BBN105.
@MesaMXR
@MesaMXR 3 жыл бұрын
I'm only 6 minutes in and I'm loving this video so far, Dan. I love geeking out to stuff like this. I don't always understand the concepts you talk about in your videos but they are so fascinating.
@pitbullvicious2505
@pitbullvicious2505 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a beginner bedroom producer -- musical background in DJing and guitar -- binge watching videos about mixing, mastering and plugins. I'm a nerdy type (researcher by trade) with a huge appetite to learn, and I can't praise your review (doesn't feel right to call it just that, though) enough. So well constructed, well explained and detailed, yet feet firmly on the ground (more than you can say for some "audiophiles"). As a beginner, I've been on a discovery trip about what kind of plugins to get. I usually just go by people's recommendation, and then try to figure out how things work, while watching more tutorials, trying to hear and understand. In less than an hour you've probably taught me more than all the other videos I've watched in the last six months. Thank you! Definitely subscribed.
@andywild9183
@andywild9183 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Dan, I found that analysis very interesting and enjoyable, well worth the time I set aside to listen. I think it added a lot to my understanding of what we are really buying and what the plugins are doing.
@dustystewart430
@dustystewart430 Жыл бұрын
As usual, Dan has done yet another video that is intuitive, informative, and helpful. I couldn’t help but shake my head when Dan mentioned his early experiences with graphically based processing, because I’d also fallen prey to “mixing with my eyes”, when back in the late 90’s, I bought a digital desk, (a Yamaha 02R) which had a visual graph for EQ, Compression, etc. The first few weeks of using that console, my mixes sounded bloody terrible (and I’d been an engineer for nearly 17 years up to that point) because I had completely changed my approach to mixing, totally changing what I’d always done when previously working on analog desks. My first mixes on that digital desk sounded shallow, one dimensional, sterile… The answer for me didn’t come quickly; it wasn’t until I finally realized what I was doing, and went back to using my ears first, that my mixes started sounding good again. So, for me, the answer was in the awareness of what I was doing. Still, all these years later, I have to be careful at times, when I’m using plugs like Fabfilter, or similar processors that provide the ability to make adjustments in a graphic environment, because I can still revert back to mixing with my eyes instead of relying on my ears. FWIW 🙏
@wadebay
@wadebay 3 жыл бұрын
Another welcome master class, in a sea of opinions. Thank you! In my opinion, your videos foster dialogue and true conversation-- a real gift that keeps on giving.
@marialuciagubolin7964
@marialuciagubolin7964 3 жыл бұрын
Just came to the comments to say: What an amazing lecture! Thank you so much for such a amazing exchange of knowledge! :D
@ManicMaximus
@ManicMaximus 3 жыл бұрын
Great timing. I was playing around with this plugin the other night. Your under the hood analysis gave me some context for the next time I fire it up. I think brainworx has a winner with this one. Cheers
@danniielleoconnor1922
@danniielleoconnor1922 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video as usual Dan! Thoroughly enjoyed this one. I'm a big fan of both PA and FabFilter and have many full licenses for PA plugins and a Mega bundle subscription I've had since it was launched. I also have licenses for FabFilter EQ, comp, MB comp and limiter and find myself using a combination of PA and FabFilter extensively on most of my mixes and mastering work. I actually completely agree with almost all of your praise AND criticisms of this console and PA in general. I almost always have the TMT feature set to the same channel number in both channels (what they call digital mode). I too find the frequency shifts with the sheen and glow options rather odd but I haven't used the real console so can't comment from experience there. I do like that they offer quite dramatic differences though and that can sometimes inspire creativity. Oh, I must mention that it was your videos that got me into FabFilter a few years ago. So, a big thank you for that!
@Stazma
@Stazma 3 жыл бұрын
Nice to have your take of those plugins. It's been a while that I've been using those channel strip more than Pro-Q when mixing in the box. I find this new one to be very good, probably my favorite so far from those I've tried.
@nikirose7673
@nikirose7673 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent. I always learn stuff from Dan's vids that goes beyond the actual plugin being looked at.
@nikolaudio
@nikolaudio 3 жыл бұрын
I literally love Dan’s videos so much. Interesting every single time I can’t look away
@parboilrice
@parboilrice 3 жыл бұрын
You're the only person who can make me watch a 1 hour deep dive of a Channel Strip plugin.... Well done.
@surgicalglitch3265
@surgicalglitch3265 3 жыл бұрын
The Neve E 9098i was/is an amazing console, much respect to Brainworx's assiduity and diligence for using it as reference. I very much respect what Brainworx does with its Tolerance Modeling Technology (TMT). I can't say I like when companies make an emulated matrix off vintage hardware and add extra parameters that they claim 'enhance' the plugin when they are trying to create a plugin that is utilizing CPU emulation to recreate vintage hardware. But regardless I think this is a pretty bloody spot on job Brainworx. Thanks for the insight Dan.
@niner8275
@niner8275 2 жыл бұрын
Just got a sales offer from Plugin Alliance for this plugin and checked out your video now. Well, even if I didn't had any clue about anything here, just listening to your voice is like listening to a very exciting story (and in some way it actually was).
@julienlegardeur7431
@julienlegardeur7431 2 жыл бұрын
Such a good and precise analysis and comparison. Thank you so much! I would like to see more plugin review like this. It has help me to make the choice I wasn't sure about
@pedrotlima
@pedrotlima 2 жыл бұрын
A beautiful, dispassionate review taking a very in-depth look at what seems to be everything! Thank you so much for this!
@randyranson84
@randyranson84 2 жыл бұрын
I do all my mixes of plugins by ear, and when I reach that one spot in the zone I'm attempting to get to, that's when I rest all my plugins, with all knowledge and markings of where I'm at, before attempting to push and play, sometimes leading to a better more creative sound on top, or a return to my starting point, and further play, once satisfied, that's where I leave it. Many times I've even surprised myself from where all this leads. Mixing does make a difference and the more real it can make all the instruments sound, the greater the overall sound. I once took an average recording of the Beatles on stage, and made it sound as clear and clean as if you were standing with them on the same stage. Never underestimate the dynamics and ability of plugins, you just have to work them over and over until they're like second nature to you, once you've got it, you're off to the races. Great video, I will be getting this plugin in the future, as you said, when Plugin Alliance puts it on sale. Thanks.
@fullsoundrecording
@fullsoundrecording Жыл бұрын
Thanks man, you addressed some of my findings using my ears in using this plug in and I have to agree that I'm surprised they did not just go ahead and address the cramping in the mids as an improvement like they did the gate and so on, and not adding pre and post 4 bands of Q in the comp and limiter section as well would have been a change well worth the added work. I personally don't use this plug in as I just did not find it was worth it for just the THD when I have HEAT in protools for that added THD effect. And I tend to use differently Q plug ins for different sources. I have not told you in the past but I do appreciate your great videos and the painstaking time and energy you put into them, I think hands down the most informative and consistent constructive videos on KZbin. Now there maybe someone out there doing it but I have not found them, No one else comes even close to your refreshing honest analytical style and format of narratives and deconstruction of plug ins and hardware. Thank you so much. I just don't have the time or patience to go through what you do for us out here. And knowing now today after the few years I have been educated by your videos it's rare I would ever say this but I would pay for your videos knowing what I know of them now. Please don't change your availability to them as I think so many out there have such bad ideas of what is what and you are one who keeps it honest for those whom will watch and learn, and seem to have no bias and when you do you say so. Thanks man. JTH Edit: Oh and i forgot to mention im an old large frame analog desk ownwer having owned some AMEKS and woked on a 9098i for years and SSL, Owned a Mitsubishi Quad Eight Westar installed in one of my rooms of the past, Focusrite etc over the years so I come from a tactile approach.
@vicnest
@vicnest 3 жыл бұрын
Love the review. Incredible aspects and details. Need more reviews!
@Archaic1Eye
@Archaic1Eye 3 жыл бұрын
An excellent, informed, no nonsense review. I like your style man. I think that I too will pick up this unit ... in a sale.
@simonjanetzki5556
@simonjanetzki5556 3 жыл бұрын
I owned an Amek with the digital dynamics and never loved them. The computer was an old 486, running on DOS. I was also certain that it was a VCA compressor. The gate was also controlled from the computer, which did sound pretty good. The best part was to recall a mix, you had Rupert Neves voice telling you where each know should be.
@DanWorrall
@DanWorrall 3 жыл бұрын
Ha! They should have modelled that recall system.
@aviatedviewssound4798
@aviatedviewssound4798 2 жыл бұрын
@@DanWorrall Lol
@PauloSartori
@PauloSartori 3 жыл бұрын
Best movie I've watched in a long while. Grateful (as always), Professor Dan Worrall!
@MartinvonBargen
@MartinvonBargen 3 жыл бұрын
Deffo 53 minutes well spent. And I've learnt a few new things too. Cheers for another informative vid again mate.
@Whiteseastudio
@Whiteseastudio 3 жыл бұрын
Those screws look stripped 😱
@mrcoatsworth429
@mrcoatsworth429 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, makes it sound more authentic!
@jjwhittle8873
@jjwhittle8873 3 жыл бұрын
Even better Wytse, you can toggle between a clean and "used" interface which has finger prints all over it. How much more authentic can you get?
@queenpurple8433
@queenpurple8433 3 жыл бұрын
Ohhh shiiiiittt White Sea studio
@TwstedTV
@TwstedTV 3 жыл бұрын
😂
@manuelninogarces9574
@manuelninogarces9574 3 жыл бұрын
Hey! great to see you here!
@russelledwards2405
@russelledwards2405 Жыл бұрын
Most useful review of this plugin to date. Very balanced and honest. I just picked it up because, as you pointed out, PA dropped it to 29.99. Thanks to your video I made templates with my common configurations with the TMT channels set to match my track numbers. Why this isn't default is silly to me. This will certainly not outperform a chain of individual powerhouse plugins like Fabfilter, but I am finding that channel plugins do make for a usable stock setup that speeds my workflow via elimination of plugin decision. Of course, I ise other plugins, but this gets me off to a solid start.
@CassiaConvolution
@CassiaConvolution 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dan, for another engaging and educational video. Your honesty and intelligence are always refreshing and inspiring, even if I do have to watch some of your vids multiple times to get a handle on them!
@TrentSolo
@TrentSolo 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting review. I think it speaks to how many of us mix today- we have a Pro Q-3 as our first plug on every channel; and then a console plugin or a Slate style mix rack on every channel as the next one. Best of all worlds.
@NewoNZ
@NewoNZ 2 жыл бұрын
I'll be honest and say that I know nothing about the things you make videos on but thoroughly enjoy the format and presentation you use. I continue to watch and hope that my brain absorbs some of important bits so thanks for that.
@BrofUJu
@BrofUJu 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this review. I plan on grabbing this if it's a decent price largely for the insanely low CPU hit. I work with tons of tracks and can work quickly. If I need more specific saturation and things I'll load more plugins as needed.
@jeff92k7
@jeff92k7 Жыл бұрын
This was fascinating. It's nice to see all the detailed testing. It's nicer to see that your end result matches what I already heard with my ears... It's a perfectly decent plug in, but is just 'different'. I picked this one up (on sale, of course) and am happy with it, but it won't replace my "go-to" standard of using the SSL Native Channel Strip 2 as my default insert on every channel. However, if I didn't already have the SSL channel strip, I wouldn't have any hesitation with using this plugin as a default on every channel. I also grew up mixing live in the analog era, and I love these plug ins that force us to mix with our ears again.
@m.i.stapes
@m.i.stapes 3 жыл бұрын
I don't even really care about the plugin comparisons as much as just learning from your experience and analysis. Excellent.
@maramustudio8794
@maramustudio8794 Жыл бұрын
Amazing content. It was funny at the end you expected to hear "I won't use this" but suddenly "Ok i'll buy it". Thanks for the wisdom and sharing your knowledge. Grettings from Peru!
@nectariosm
@nectariosm 3 жыл бұрын
The range of tones available on the dynamics section of this plug in, is *very* impressive.
@JMilnazikMusic
@JMilnazikMusic 3 жыл бұрын
re-arranging my day to make time for this.
@JMilnazikMusic
@JMilnazikMusic 3 жыл бұрын
and I'm glad I did. another incredibly well done video. once again I leave feeling like I learned a whole lot about my toolbox.
@MIHAO
@MIHAO 3 жыл бұрын
@@JMilnazikMusic same here
@pedrochalkho7629
@pedrochalkho7629 3 жыл бұрын
Same. Also, turning off my phone notifications and infusing some herbs.
@MikeBrayton
@MikeBrayton 3 жыл бұрын
I'm mesmerized by the way Dan talks. His Brit accent, and pacing, and subtle sense of humor. I come away feeling, like, well, tickled. :). Thanks for the great content, Dan.
@togitom
@togitom 2 жыл бұрын
I don't get bored in your videos. I learn and learn. Thank you very much. Cheers!
@MartinvonBargen
@MartinvonBargen 3 жыл бұрын
Miss! Miss! Daniel Worrall's talking about knobs and his low end's glowing!
@andivax
@andivax 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for such detailed video Dan! I still love bx 4000e for it's compressor curves
@MarioLuisYT
@MarioLuisYT Жыл бұрын
Great video review, probably the only review you'll ever need on this plugin due to how well you've covered everything , cheers.
@Fluxwithit
@Fluxwithit 3 жыл бұрын
This is a fantastic video. I will say aside from the random curve thing, I actually really like a lot of the little quirks of the bx plug in.
@peterbrandt7911
@peterbrandt7911 Жыл бұрын
Binding the TMT setting to the channel number sounds like a great idea. You could probably create a macro for that, but this could really be a reasonable setting. And if the function is already there, I seem to have never found it. One of the finest plugin reviews I've seen so far.
@andyfreeze4072
@andyfreeze4072 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dan, you have quite clearly pointed me in the direction i need to go. All these so called emulation channel strips have a unique customization of the work flow. I started using the SSl EV and i found i got similar results using various other plug ins only much faster with the SSL strip. I just couldnt articulate what i was doing. This video has quite clearly given me a slap in the face. I now understand a bit better . I dont need to spend a whole heap of money on " legendary" channel strips, I just need to understand what the hell i am doing a lot better. I will be using the EV more as a template from now on rather than the final arbiter of what i do. The journey has just got a kick along.
@seancampbell6296
@seancampbell6296 3 жыл бұрын
Wow!!! I have never seen a review as in depth and on point as this
@philiplane3533
@philiplane3533 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent review. A great distillation of issues that actually matter. As objective as you can as opposed to becoming just another KZbinr's opinion. Thank you!
@CT-ho6si
@CT-ho6si 3 жыл бұрын
Thought I'd watch a quick plugin review (for a plugin I'm not interested in lol) and ended up getting my mind blown. Thanks Dan. Please keep the videos coming.
@BrofUJu
@BrofUJu 3 жыл бұрын
Btw, seen other tests on this, the Glow and Sheen are more like Pultec style boosts that go well beyond the range, turning them off turns it more into a classic SSL style boost.
@lahattec
@lahattec 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dan for a very insightful video. Lots of extra insights I gleaned from this as well. Keep up the great efforts!
@canecreek00
@canecreek00 3 жыл бұрын
Great review, i know nothing is likely to change but its worth mentioning that bx_console Amek 9099 is actually in beta stage at the moment hence why it is not for sale yet
@JT-hs6hc
@JT-hs6hc Жыл бұрын
Your voice is incredibly calming! This helped me calm down this evening.
@JimAlfredson
@JimAlfredson 3 жыл бұрын
Another amazing video choked full of experience and knowledge. Thank you, Dan.
@kehindea
@kehindea 2 жыл бұрын
I love your slight patronising tone and British wit poking through your commentary. It’s necessary when we do dumb things and ask dumb questions haha. Subbed.
@nichttuntun3364
@nichttuntun3364 3 жыл бұрын
Most differienciated video about a bx plugin ever made :) Thank you. Cheers
@Harrysound
@Harrysound 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. I got this plugin this morning for 30 quid :) I've always used graphic EQs and your standard digital EQs so using this console stuff is making me do different things and I kinda like the results to be honest.
@dirkchurlish4074
@dirkchurlish4074 3 жыл бұрын
The move-all-by-one idea would make me actually want TMT. Amazing idea!
@DrMax0
@DrMax0 3 жыл бұрын
This was a quite interesting insight in the same "problem" I have when trying to choose analog style channel strips versus the fabfilter toolbox. I came to a very satisfying conclusion. When mixing traditional rock and old rhythm and blues (recorded with real instruments) I prefer old channel strips (like the bx_consoleN) as they are kind of made for this music. I don't have to fiddle around with finding the right frequency or Q. The preset Eq frequencies just fit. That makes me incredibly fast in comparison. On the other side if I mix EDM or modern style pop where lots of outlandish virtual synths and electronic stuff is going on I prefer the Fabfilter stuff. In this case the old-style channels strips just are far too limited to tame the electronic stuff where the frequencies are all over the place (which does not happen so much with traditional instruments). Just me too cents ...
@russellszabadosaka5-pindin849
@russellszabadosaka5-pindin849 2 жыл бұрын
@DrMax0 your two cents are helpful to me. I do sync licensing and vacillate between rock & EDM every week. I just picked up bx_digital V3, Pro-Q3 and have Pro-C2 & Pro-G. I’ll try out your strategy on the two styles. Thx.
@DrMax0
@DrMax0 2 жыл бұрын
@@russellszabadosaka5-pindin849 Great. Let me know how it worked for you.
@russellszabadosaka5-pindin849
@russellszabadosaka5-pindin849 2 жыл бұрын
@DrMax0 I’ll do that!
@jondoe1384
@jondoe1384 Жыл бұрын
Elysia is gold on Electronic Music!
@tennisgenius
@tennisgenius Жыл бұрын
Great point, I have a client who loves RnB and soul- as well as the "neo-" versions of both. That means a lot of my production for her will oscillate (lol) wildly between Isley Brothers, Grover Washington, Minnie Ripperton, Syreeta style production that is weird and creative but also beautiful and organic in its instrumentation and the kind of Aaliyah, Kelis, early Beyonce style production that takes its cues from new jack, late 80s hip hop, later worship/gospel music, etc. and I have noticed exactly the same thing. For the former I find more success in mixing the production with outboard gear or PA/UAD analog emulations and for the latter the more surgical and "clean" style is way more beneficial. Intuitive sure but great to see it in writing! Appreciate the comment.
@bleeps_bloops
@bleeps_bloops 3 жыл бұрын
Really interesting video. Thanks for taking the time to make it. And the honesty around being pulled into making eq graphs look nice was refreshing (and relatable). FWIW, having never used a real console I find their plugin counterparts rather overwhelming, and I wonder if I would be tempted to tweak everything given all those options in front of me. All the best Dan.
@iainmackenzieUK
@iainmackenzieUK 3 жыл бұрын
I am getting better - understood around 80%. That's seriously, a big "well done" to me AND thank you to Dan Thank you Dan
@vcgrecords9159
@vcgrecords9159 2 жыл бұрын
I am new to mixing, 3 years to be exact. I recently acquired the SSL 9000J from plugin alliance . It’s working for me. I am still training my ears and as a young mixing engineer I am working not overdoing things, Working with board eq’s makes me really think of every move
@johnlance3860
@johnlance3860 3 жыл бұрын
An absolutely wonderful analysis. I am in agreement about the suggested benefits of TMT as well.
@axelfoley1768
@axelfoley1768 2 жыл бұрын
This guy is thorough, I like his style. And he's not afraid to put his views forward. And he seems to know what he's talking about. I subscribed 🪂📸
@jimimaze
@jimimaze 2 жыл бұрын
I learn a lot about how to get a better mix while you twist knobs for null testing. I love it.
@josephjonzen9394
@josephjonzen9394 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dan, superbly articulated and thorough. I think I'll slap the Amek 9099 all over my next song and enjoy a measure of saturation. Nice music at the end!
@MACRONOne
@MACRONOne 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this honest review, very helpful.
@94XJ
@94XJ 2 жыл бұрын
Ahh yes, the Vi6! I had a sweet spot in my heart for Soundcraft before but the Vi6 really holds a very special place to me. My ears perked up as soon as I heard it mentioned!
@bonolesso
@bonolesso 2 жыл бұрын
One thing that could be worth looking into is whether the Glow and Sheen modes distort more (or differently). Even though, judging by the easier nulls with them turned on, I'd say that's not the case, or maybe these modes actually distort less rather than more. If they're modelling console saturation, there ought to be EQ-related saturation and not simply a saturation at the end of the process (even though this is actually more manageable than lots of moderate amounts of saturation going on all over the place).
@LondraCalibro9
@LondraCalibro9 Жыл бұрын
your work for fab filter taught me a lot - thank you! great video.
@Mansardian
@Mansardian 3 жыл бұрын
Dan, a big THANK YOU! I felt like being the only one who wouldn't buy the "advantage" of TMT. My reasons are a little different, though. Normally, I'd have mainly mono signals in my channels, so the signal would be different anyway. That TMT differences only get relevant if you have the exact same signal on two channels, panned to L and R, only then you'll hear the effect. Otherwise, the L/R-difference of a true stereo signal is way bigger than that tiny alteration by TMT. I just can't see the benefit. If one really believes that TMT gives so much more depth and 3D...just change the parameter decimals of the settings of one channel. Like 3.1 dB boost instead of 3 dB, and 3.1KHz instead of 3KHz. Pretty much the same.
@davidohanaaviance7954
@davidohanaaviance7954 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Dan! Great review! Some of the flaws you pointed out here are very clear cut and I like how you presented it and backed it up. Great chanel strip (recent purchase on sale) However... I think I see it in a better light now after your review.
@vigilantestylez
@vigilantestylez 2 жыл бұрын
I was originally harsh on this video, but after watching it again, it is very accurate, and honest. I will sub. Excellent video, and breakdown of what is going on under the hood.
@azoteapost8734
@azoteapost8734 2 жыл бұрын
The stereo widening effect is what the TMT is made for. Not to conflict your eq moves for example. Is for widen tracks and busses. And it really feels better than a static ew on the same stereo channels or busses. Just my opinion. Thanks for the video.
@PatMcGuireMusic
@PatMcGuireMusic 2 жыл бұрын
Another great video. Thanks for all you do Dan. I learn a lot and get confused a lot when I watch them :)
@moogfooger
@moogfooger 3 ай бұрын
This is a great presentation wityh some real commentary. Thanks for your forthright approach and hands on techniques. It makes understanding the differences more apparent. I just bought 9000J BTW. (on sale) Cheers
@shorerocks
@shorerocks 2 жыл бұрын
Dry. Witty. Not that I always share Dan's (expert) opinions, but I always enjoy listening to them. And I always learn something. Always.
@RubyRupendar
@RubyRupendar 3 жыл бұрын
I'm greatful to have seen your video and grabbed a small part of your Ocean like knowledge!
@marshy_moo
@marshy_moo 2 жыл бұрын
This was a truly BRILLIANT review. Cop that Rupert (RIP), Cop that Dirk, hahaha... In all seriousness, I really hope bx takes note of these amazing feature suggestions (oversampling, x3 eq section, etc.) and builds them into a future version!
@BojanBojovic
@BojanBojovic 3 жыл бұрын
Dan for a president of United Federation Of Planets.
@jarcau_vegan
@jarcau_vegan 2 жыл бұрын
Let's take care, and not just ownership, of this one first 🍀
@clown134
@clown134 2 жыл бұрын
@@jarcau_vegan that's a good line
@mixourband
@mixourband 3 жыл бұрын
Great review video. I've just started using this plugin and got some good results. Again thanks for the breakdown.
@aldo34
@aldo34 2 жыл бұрын
People saying that this somehow 'harms' Brainworks - don't get that myself? Great review; constructive, probing, honest...with ultimately an 'I like it' at the end but plenty of food for thought on the philosophical elements of analog modelling as a concept and pricing models across the piece. Nowhere near the 'gotcha' that people seem to be taking from it? I have many PA and Fabfilter plug-ins - love and use them all in different ways and absolutely REVEL in the fact that we have these types of tools at our disposal for - if you wait for the sales ;-) - a relatively affordable cost. That's great isn't it?
@garvolt
@garvolt 2 жыл бұрын
Incredible analysis of a Plugin. I'm sure plugin manufactures will now take heed after watching this.
@jonathanfurtado7611
@jonathanfurtado7611 3 жыл бұрын
this is one of the best videos ive seen on plugins and damn the amen sounds good even on y MacBook Pro 16 speakers
@KariKauree
@KariKauree 2 жыл бұрын
Dan's voice is so soothing that I keep falling asleep over this video, but I want to learn so I have to keep trying until I've watched it all
@JoeyFTL
@JoeyFTL 3 жыл бұрын
I love this content, thank you, Dan.
@mattmacadams
@mattmacadams 2 жыл бұрын
Lots of sensible opinions and perspectives in here. Thanks for making this!
@cornerliston
@cornerliston 3 жыл бұрын
Well, the ongoing hunt for “analogue.” What I like with modeling plugins is that they challenge me to listen to the mix instead of watching the curves. In companion with my Fabfilter plugins which I can't be without. Another analogue modeling topic is that so many (well known and not well well known) mixing engineers claim the “sound” is so apparent. The Neve sound, SSL sound, the AMEK ‘magic’ sound. And so on. What I would like to see is a blind test with these mixing engineers claiming this, between a mix made with modeling only compared to the same mix done with non modeling plugins. Maybe some will actually hear the difference but my guess is that it will be just that. A 50% chance as it often is.
@mattheasboelter5217
@mattheasboelter5217 3 жыл бұрын
I suspect the real difference they are talking about is not sound, but workflow.
@mattheasboelter5217
@mattheasboelter5217 3 жыл бұрын
@@CerealKiller just addressing your aside: I think it's more realizing that they might come to digital from analog and then get worse results not because you can't get the same sounds, but because they don't know the tools as well. That would result in them saying it "sounds worse" when really it just requires a different way of working. Because they've been doing it forever, they aren't likely to invest the time into learning the new tools properly, so analog is stuck sounding better until people come around and learn the new tools well enough to disprove it (which I think has already happened, we just haven't lost the stigma yet).
@cornerliston
@cornerliston 3 жыл бұрын
@@mattheasboelter5217 Maybe you're right, but I often hear them rant about ‘the sound’ and not the workflow : )
@cornerliston
@cornerliston 3 жыл бұрын
@@CerealKiller Indeed, Mattheas has a valid point too.
@dirkchurlish4074
@dirkchurlish4074 3 жыл бұрын
@@mattheasboelter5217 I'm always happy when I can satisfactorily approximate the sound of an analog processor in the box. The fact that it takes more work (or more time or more plugins) is one kind of proof that analog does sound better, even if only in a "by default" sense of the word better. But there is more than one standard of proof for that statement, and more than one sense of the word "better." I also find, as someone coming from digital and moving into analog a little bit, that stuff often sounds better without me having to work at it when I'm using an analog tool. For whatever that's worth. One thing's for sure--I'm digging the workflow on these channel strip style plugins lately.
@ATAMusic
@ATAMusic 2 жыл бұрын
Great video as usual Dan! Thank you! For a limited time, those who own the "Soundwide Welcome Bundle" from PA, bx_console Amek 9099 can be grabbed for $30.99.
@eg4358
@eg4358 2 жыл бұрын
I got it, Class A comp and True peak limiter for around $42-43 total
@universeman657
@universeman657 2 жыл бұрын
I use the bx console focusrite se. On the topic of tmt, I actually like the effect on stereo channels, as it seems to add some extra stereo depth to everything more naturally (and with less work) than something like a stereo widening plugin. And doing it manually could also take more time and not sound quite as authentic. That’s just my opinion.
@indramoktanindy6128
@indramoktanindy6128 2 жыл бұрын
One of the best where knowledge and critics are well balanced .. Respect !!
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