DAREDEVIL BORN AGAIN TRAILER - We Have Some Concerns

[@SpideySensei72]

Vincent D'onofrio has already said gaining the weight for the role of Kingpin isn't healthy for him and you can clearly see in early scenes he was wearing padding underneath his suit jacket. Him being smaller in stature makes sense when you consider his age and health concerns.

[@Tony2-Dirty]

Plus if you do it right, it works. Look at Colin Farrel as Penguin in The Batman and The Penguin

[@danielpierce-o7p]

Which is more of a reason why Spider-Man 4 should be a grounded Daredevil team up movie with Fisk as the main villain. Both him and Charlie Cox are getting up there in age and that needs to happen now.

[@michaelstrong5383]

As long as he still has that Kingpin intimidation, I'll take it. The character doesn't have to be as ginormous as he was in the first Spider-Verse movie.

[@irish6783]

Yeah he’s 65 he doesn’t need to natural carry that much weight around. Theres others ways to make him big

[@Midv1322]

The fat suit was more exaggerated in hawkeye. Here they just padded him out a little. Which is fine. Fat suit on a guy in a suit is easy. They can nail it on people with no shirt on one under a suit is easy. Even the set leaks from Moana the rocks body suit look amazing. It helps the rock is already large. The thing I’m worried about is the wig with him. Don’t need another Hercules or scorpion king wig. Anyway kinda wish Kingpin was a bit bigger. If you suing a fat suit why not go bigger. I get the actor might not want to do make up on his neck and face. So you’re limited how big you can without him having a tiny head on a big body. Looked good in Hawkeye minus the ugly Hawaiian shirt imo.

[@theroguerider]

I find it interesting that Corey finds the reworking concerning when I find it comforting. They had something VERY different (a courtroom drama supposedly) and the higher-ups saw what they were doing and said, “No, this isn’t what people loved about the Netflix show!” I talked to David Mack, a writer and artist for the comic, and he did prelim art for the show and some storyboarding, and he said that it’s darker and holds to that Netflix formula that made him so popular.

[@notfromhere8889]

David Mack is a talented dude

[@ryanheslin2459]

Yeah. He's a beast of an artist! He did some of the early Bendis DD

[@JM-pm1yb]

The Netflix shows had several references to being part of the MCU. it didn’t always make sense in the grand scheme of things. But it was always intended to be part of that universe.

[@RayValdezPhotography]

It always made sense. The threats just were low level.

[@xeno_dork]

Yeah, very first episode openly references the Battle of New York from the first Avengers movie. They do it several times throughout the first season.

[@newstation795]

@@xeno_dorkso did agents of shield

[@jesserodgers5625]

The shows spoke to the movies, but the movies didn't speak back. (There's interesting behind the scenes reasons for this.) Now that Marvel Television has been absorbed into Marvel Studios, they can now either attempt to smooth all that stuff out or just say the pre-merge Marvel Television universe is a separate universe.😊

[@RayValdezPhotography]

@@jesserodgers5625 They spoke back with Spiderman and Daredevil and basically Matt was just a Lawyer with good reflexes to Spiderman. Of course I want more interaction but we shouldn't have an issue if personal/street and global/universal level threats don't get the same attention from the avengers. I liked the seperation, it makes the universe look more varied and vast. I hated how Star Wars in film tries to make everything about the trilogy and Jedi. The universe can and should be bigger than that. That is why a lot of people probably liked Rogue one or Mando.

[@BGAnime]

That diner scene seems like it’s gonna be legendary

[@michaelstrong5383]

Getting serious "De Niro and Pacino from Heat" vibes

[@S0meoneorS0mething]

"It seems like we really do understand each other, so if you step out of line I AM going to be there" "This caution you're giving me, who's it from, Matt Murdock or, your darker half"

[@JoshuaSandusky]

That diner was in season 2 of Daredevil. Matt ate at that exact same place with Elektra.

[@thorkagemob1297]

The netflix shows are canon. And they are easily made canon. They literally mentioned the first Avengers movie multiple times.

[@arw1985]

They could say that everything Netflix-wise took place before the Snap. Besides, outside of the Avengers and Spider-Man Homecoming, nothing really took place in New York other than small things.

[@vitalstaken]

@@arw1985 The Epilogue of Punisher Season 2 took place after the blip

[@cmdrjanjalani]

They used to be a "?", now they are definitely canon. Yeah it's easy to just explain away that they were all hit by the Snap. But it seems based on the show that they will try to explain why a lot of these characters were also inactive for several years. Seeing a scruffed-up Frank Castle suggests he laid low for a quite a while, and it's seems that Daredevil dropping off for years until he went back in She-Hulk will also be explained.

[@VictorNieves-u9y]

The Netflix shows were always canon. There’s nothing in the shows that conflict with MCU lore or vice versa. The first season of Daredevil referenced the alien invasion in Avengers 1. Jessica Jones referenced Hulk vs Abomination in Harlem. Justin Hammer’s company made the Judas bullets and Diamondback’s suit that hurt Luke Cage. A Judas bullet also appeared in Agents of Shield, which is also canon. Danny Rand explained that Dragons and other dimensions exist. Shang Chi fought a dragon, with the help of a dragon, in another dimension. In Jessica Jones, kids were seen dressed up as MCU Avengers. There was also a Thor reference, but I don’t remember which show.

[@cmdrjanjalani]

It was stuck in limbo because Feige for the longest time did not want to acknowledge Marvel Television due to his issues with Ike Perlmutter. The biggest example was Agents of SHIELD. This show actually brought in actors from the movies and directly made references to events and yet is still not showing in any official MCU timelines. The last few seasons post-Endgame even got worse and by that time it seemed the show was in its own bubble. So as much as we'd like to think "they were always canon", it really wasn't officially until them being acknowledged last year when they set the Netflix shows in the MCU timeline. I think this might be the first time that the reshoots might have been good, and I will cross my fingers that it will be. The trailers really make it feel like Daredevil Season 4 and I hope with Deadpool's success that Disney will have the balls not needing all their movies and shows to be kid-friendly.

[@terrellthaddies7867]

​@@cmdrjanjalaniActually. That was Marvel Entertainment. Kevin was always wanted to use Daredevil, Jessica Jones, etc from Netflix but Marvel Entertainment's higher ups wouldn't allow it. They couldn't even allude to their names That came straight from the mouths at Marvel Studios in the book called "The Story of Marvel Studios: The Making of the Marvel Cinematic Universe" Here's the direct quote: “While many observers assumed that this entire stable of characters would go directly into Marvel Studios’ movie development process, it was decided by Marvel Entertainment’s higher-ups that because the movie side was already deeply committed to their successful Avengers characters, and the impending Guardians of the Galaxy characters, that the returnees would instead help build a planned TV empire under the direct control of Marvel Entertainment (entirely separate from Marvel Studios),” reads an excerpt from the book. “The film side had no control over those characters, despite their interest in developing them. Instead, they all went to Marvel Entertainment. Ghost Rider appeared in Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D, and the others were placed in different streaming series.” Hence why that up until 2024, it has always been a one sided connection cuz of Marvel Entertainment

[@cmdrjanjalani]

@@terrellthaddies7867 yeah you're correct, it's Marvel Entertainment. Marvel Television is the banner the current shows are under now. It was a huge deal finally when Feige took control fully. It was probably a pain in the ass creatively and was made even worse when garbage like Inhumans and Iron Fist came out. Too bad they weren't able to maintain the same quality post Endgame consistently anymore and we finally got our own MCU canon stinkers. Sony's universe probably also made things worse as casuals would not be able to tell the difference and just see all the films as Marvel. Probably might hurt the MCU ones.

[@shinndig1293]

Agents of Shield and several of the other old marvel shows are still up in the air in terms of their canonicity, though I actually think this is where establishing the Marvel multiverse was actually a good thing since now everything and anything can be canon.

[@cmdrjanjalani]

@ yeah giving them the authority to dump the ones they don't want in another universe is probably the simplest one. I don't think anyone wants Inhumans to have happened in the MCU.

[@metha9987]

This trailer make me go from skeptical to optimistically cautious. Man, I miss the day when we yelled "SHIIIIIIIT!!" every trailer

[@icedcapplord710]

I like the idea of including Muse. He simultaneously feels very much like a villain that fit the Netflix mold of more grounded villains with theatrical qualities, but they obviously didn't have access to him since he was introduced in 2016 after the show started. Bringing in someone as sadistic as a guy who makes graffiti art out of his victims' blood will definitely justify a need for extra measures and vigilantism even when Fisk appears to be doing the Devil's Reign thing and outlawing those activities as mayor. Punisher's for sure going to be disgusted by the idea of a task force using his image and persona to promote righteousness like cops in the comics have done (and real life, unfortunately)

[@Dookieman1975]

Fisk will prob use the “Sakovia Accords” thing every single time someone questions him banning vigilantes especially when he’s proven to be shady af

[@terrellthaddies7867]

​​@@Dookieman1975​The Sovika Accords, are no longer a thing. They mentioned this in the She Hulk Daredevil episode Daredevil Born Again takes place after Daredevil S3, Spider-Man No Way Home, Hawkeye, She Hulk, and Echo

[@michaelstrong5383]

The Netflix Daredevil show was more violent than your usual MCU project at the time, but it also handled mature themes like morality or guilt. While this Disney Plus show looks to be as violent, I have my doubts that it would capture that same maturity. Prove me wrong, Marvel. Prove me wrong.

[@gcolbyp]

I say it’s more depending on the people behind it and how it’s told. I know people, even Korey and Martin, thinks everything Marvel has put out recently have been all jokey jokes, but it’s not like they can’t tell a mature story with important themes. The most recent example is probably Loki, as it deals with themes of finding your purpose and even seeking redemption and it’s some of the best and most complex storytelling in the MCU. So it’s not like they can’t pull it off, just depends on execution.

[@jiffypoo5029]

Disney hired the showrunner and writers for Netflix Punisher to make Daredevil. Irrationally hate everything Disney makes if you really want.

[@mrstrangeworld5977]

​@@gcolbypExactly! We’ve had Loki, Black Panther: Wakanda Forever, Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3, Spider-Man: No Way Home, and Shang-Chi. I think people have goldfish memory and are forgetting.

[@jrob4795]

@@mrstrangeworld5977Wakanda forever was a disgrace.

[@gcolbyp]

⁠@@mrstrangeworld5977 Well sometimes people mostly let the weak projects overshadow the ones that did actually work. I’ll also put Wandavision and even Agatha All Along in there too. I was surprised that Agatha was better than I thought it would be.

[@radio.graffiti]

Daredevil is the best live action superhero TV show ever made so this show has some big shoes to fill. Seems like Born Again is just basically Daredevil season 4 so let's hope they can match the quality of Netflixs

[@thomas-ol3ni]

The show was horse shit wdym.😅

[@terrellthaddies7867]

​@@thomas-ol3niTo u and the minority

[@krazygreekguy]

@@thomas-ol3niyeah ok lmao. Good thing you’re not in charge or in the majority

[@e.l.4860]

The dude in the red mask is Matt, he took the mask from the bank robbers😂😂😂

[@kevins235]

I thought the same thing because even the shot of the red mask broke the guy's leg had Matt's stick in his hand

[@lawrencericho3635]

They did make the Netflix shows reference the "NEW YORK INCIDNET"

[@1984hacked]

They also mention the avengers, but not using there "HERO" names.

[@theartist8291]

I remember Jessica jones mentioning some of the heroes too

[@blakethompson5366]

Marvel TV and Marvel movies were two different departments in Marvel. I think TV respected Movie, but it wasn't vice versa.

[@thedefinitionisthis]

@@blakethompson5366 Yeah, the situation was The Netflix Marvel shows could reference events from the movies; but the MCU movies (having a broader audience, some of which might not be keeping up with the shows) wouldn't reference the the Netflix shows. Honestly, it works either way. If you want them in the same continuity, it works. If not, the Defenders' exploits are all low-level enough and so separate from the more cosmic stuff in the MCU, that it's not unrealistic if the events of the Defender-verse aren't mentioned.

[@1984hacked]

@ This is true but it does not mean that they have to force anything as the shows sprinkled in and acknowledge the large world of MCU, but the larger MCU would have no reason to mention the guy who is fighting in Harlem. So, it still works. I dont see the issue.

[@dunstanwilliams1207]

Disney has given us serious trust issues. They say they've learned but we all can't trust that shit.

[@1984hacked]

I don't have an issue with what they have done. I think most are impatient, people. It took two phase for the full are of Thanos to come to the front. The first movie after end game people wanted the same stakes. That is weird.

[@mrstrangeworld5977]

yh I disagree

[@dunstanwilliams1207]

@mrstrangeworld5977 In terms of what. They promised mature in Moon Knight, Echo and both those shows didn't deliver that daredevil type of feeling

[@wu-bangya4486]

​@@dunstanwilliams1207Echo had sum Mature violence...show was just mid. I didn't finish it

[@1984hacked]

​@dunstanwilliams1207​ I don't think they were suppose to give you that feeling. They should have given you the feeling of Moon Knight and Echo. - Moon Knight definitely had multiple episodes where you felt like you had no clue what was happening through the eyes of the character. It is a brain broken character for lack of better words. - Echo the character had a reason and drive of finding who she wanted to be and it showed here getting there through her family history good and bad, present and far past. Do you just want over the top violence in everything?? I don't get it please explain. II truly have been trying to understand the main issue with every show or movie since endgame people are so against. I can agree secret wars missed the mark but everything else was building toward something at the same rate that End game was built to. Sorry for the long A** response.

[@jiga6832]

2:57 they already kind of adpated Born Again in season 3 It's not page to page adaptation but they did do that storyline of Matt Being beaten down on the luck him being assumed dead, meeting his mother who is nun who nurses him back to health, Daredevil being framed for murders by kingpin amd him clearing his name It would be a waste of time and characters to do it again

[@melbrown2295]

Exactly.

[@Spikex1]

I was just coming to the comments to say the same thing. The thought stood out to me waaay back when Disney first announced the title for the new show, like, "but... but they already _did_ "Born Again" And it was actually a pretty good and accurate adaptation." The biggest change from the comics, obviously, was that the role of the Daredevil imposter was hugely expanded and turned into Bullseye. But other than that, I don't think we could've gotten a better adaptation of the book. I think that the title being used for the new show is more in reference to the Daredevil property having a sense of rebirth with Disney. Kinda grandiose and masturbatory for Disney to use the title that way, but whatever.

[@Skeezer66]

All the Netflix shows are canon anyway, so no point in repeating season 3.

[@Keychaine]

Michael Clarke Duncan and Vincent D'onofrio have both shown us that you can pull off a great Kingpin without looking 100% like the character. If he plays the part well, some visuals can be overlooked!

[@DirtySam0410]

21:20 They literally showed the Celestial in Captain America 4 😭😭 Why are we still pretending it hasnt been addressed yet? 😭

[@ryantatum3916]

The Kingpin is kinda like The Penguin in a sort of way for the shows

[@theroguerider]

Interesting bit to note: Kingpin is wearing a wedding ring so he is married to Vanessa.

[@averyboyd5875]

He got married in the season 3 finale

[@exeggutivejudge3747]

@@averyboyd5875 I thought he got sent to the slammer at the end of the S3

[@averyboyd5875]

@@exeggutivejudge3747 Yeah but he literally fought Daredevil and Bullseye at his wedding reception. That’s why he was in the all white suit with Vanessa.

[@theroguerider]

@ shit, I totally forgot, you’re right. Nothing interesting at all.

[@AllInTheGame01]

An encouraging thing is that Justin Benson & Aaron Moorhead who did Loki S2 & 2 Moon Knight episodes were brought in to show-run this Daredevil show alongside Dario Scardapane who worked on the Netflix Punisher show. 21:13; And yeah the Giant Statue in the Ocean from Eternals will be a major plot point in Cap America: Brave New World.

[@gcolbyp]

Didn’t they also brought some of the creative team behind the Netflix series after they reworked it? Though Benson and Moorhead are great directors, I loved what they did with Loki Season 2

[@AllInTheGame01]

@@gcolbyp They brought in Dario Scardapane who only worked on The Punisher show IIRC.

[@gcolbyp]

@@AllInTheGame01 Oh okay

[@supervillainintl.6758]

Funniest thing about all these different reviewers is you can tell the ones that are Comic fans from the more recent MCU fans. When we actually get what we want we still have people complaining about nothing

[@supervillainintl.6758]

We got the potential for Kingpin to outlaw superheroes in NYC. Which could lead to a much more serious tone Even if we don’t get a Devils Reign storyline, I’m here for what they doing with this

[@justinriley]

It looks brutal. But I hope it's not at the cost of the depth.

[@Sasu123456789x1]

Agreed

[@terrellthaddies7867]

The depth is there

[@terrellthaddies7867]

​@@Sasu123456789x1It's 100% there. That diner scene is the hint. U can feel the bad blood type of history throughout that entire scene that we saw. It's safe to say that the depth is intact, especially when it comes to Matt's religion

[@seanclay7121]

Every season of DD was pretty awesome.

[@shaneadams8165]

The difference between them reshooting Daredevil compared to Secret Invasion is a little different. They brought in a different team halfway towards the end of Secret Invasion. With Daredevil they acknowledged that the shows weren’t run well. No showrunners were hired before and no show bibles were written. Thankfully Daredevil has a showrunner.

[@GEMINIVice1]

3:20….no, respectfully disagree there The ‘New York incident’ and the OG Avengers were referenced a few times across the shows in their first seasons

[@thedefinitionisthis]

Hell, a key character in DD’s first season Ben Urich was established to have written pieces on the Battle of New York, and Hulk’s fight in Harlem.

[@hatintheswaghuh]

When he broke dudes legs I was like oooooo shit lol

[@the25thprime]

I'm confused by what Kory says about the Netflix shows. They were always supposed to be part of the MCU. They were presented as such, they have tons of connective tissue to the movies, and they were stated to be. People just started assuming they wouldn't be canon when the break happened with marvel TV, and MCU no longer had access to them, but...they were created to take place in that universe. The majority of their stories took place in a condensed timeline from 2014 to 2015 (possibly 2016) and as such happened before a lot of the major MCU events.

[@jacobwaldrop8604]

Mike Colter was born to play Luke Cage. I just hate that they killed off Mahershala Ali because they clearly struggled to find a good villain after that.

[@the25thprime]

To be fair, secret invasion underwent significant reshoots after hiring a new showrunner. The original version of Daredevil Born Again was scrapped entirely from the reports and they started from scratch. It originally had a different actress for vanessa, foggy and karen were note reported to be in it at all, and it was not connected to the netflix series in any way. I don't think any amount of reshoots could have changed it this drastically, so this definitely shows that they restarted from scratch instead of going the Secret Invasion route

[@melbrown2295]

Y’all need to speak for yourselves…Thunderbolts looks great.

[@mrstrangeworld5977]

factz

[@shinndig1293]

Not really, it just looks like a more bland version of Suicide Squad.

[@looming416]

@@shinndig1293 thunderbolts looks like a actual movie with characters you know, suicide squad was pretty much just a adult swim cartoon.

[@LongLiveKevinSamuels]

I can’t believe they wanted this to be a goofy courtroom drama with 20 episodes

[@michaelstrong5383]

The Netflix show had some courtroom scenes, but it wasn't the main hook. There was a good balance between that and the Daredevil moments.

[@thorkagemob1297]

Some courtroom drama is necessary and fits, but it sounded like they were trying to make it like Law & Order and that is just weird.

[@JukeTheRonin]

I hope Luke Cage and Elektra show up

[@mrlennydominguez]

Remember Elektra Did Showed Up in The Live Action DareDevil 2003 Movie

[@MT-si3bu]

I want a comic book accurate Luke Cage.

[@thorkagemob1297]

​@@MT-si3buyou don't think he was? I thought his show was pretty good. Especially S2

[@blackcat513358]

​@@MT-si3buA yellow blouse might be a bit much these days. 😅

[@MT-si3bu]

@@thorkagemob1297 his personality was not representative of the comic character.

[@wylon87]

Martin that is an awesome cardigan!

[@lordofthereels6790]

The Netflix stuff with the crime focus and Elektra, Bull's-eye, Kingpin trio felt very Frank Miller. This with mayor Fisk and White Toger definitely feels way more like Bendis. Two amazing writers with great but different arcs (Bendis let Matt feel more jovial while keeping the universe dark which definitely fits Disney).

[@Afr095]

The reshoots are mainly because the original show idea was under the leadership of Bob and since he was fired or stepped down most of what was done and put out was still under him including daredevil, hence most of the show being scrapped and rewritten and shot. So that definitely doesn’t worry me. It may not be as good as seasons 1 or 3 but if it’s close enough and obviously keeps that same tone and deep story then I’m down 100%. To me Daredevil and Spider-Man are Marvel’s Batman and Superman in the sense that they’re the most popular or pure don’t Fuck up the character Characters.

[@gcolbyp]

The trailer does look great, but that’s the trailer. I’m still going into this just cautiously optimistic like I do with every MCU project nowadays, even as someone who hasn’t been as hard on the post Endgame stuff like most. With the amount of projects in this franchise, some are gonna be better than others, even in the “heyday” of the MCU with the Infinity Saga, they were always hit or miss. I’m still rooting for them to put out something good, but they got big shoes to fill considering how beloved the Netflix series is. And I don’t necessarily agree that everything since have been too family friendly and jokey, it just all depends of balance in tone and some have done it well like Guardians 3 and Wakanda Forever and then you got Love and Thunder, but at least it looks like they’re bringing back the tone of the Netflix series, but it all depends if the story is executed well within 9 episodes and they got talented people involved (like Justin Benson and Aaron Moorhead, who worked on Loki Season 2 directing some episodes). So we’ll see, I was excited for Echo based on the trailer and thought it was whatever, but I wasn’t really all that excited for Agatha when it was announced and from the trailer, and it ended up being very good & one of their better entries as of late, just praying this is a win for them.

[@lanelcooper4339]

This is a wonderfully articulate comment. I think it accurately describes a lot of us.

[@gcolbyp]

@@lanelcooper4339 Thanks, like I’m still very excited for the show but nowadays we don’t know where MCU projects are gonna land quality wise. I know people bag on Phase 4 & 5 so far, but I think its just been a mixed bag of some that were very underwhelming, but also some that were actually good, even great if you ask me, we’ll see.

[@thedefinitionisthis]

Agreed 100%. I also still think that there's a bit of revisionist history when it comes to how "perfect" the Infinity Saga was, which colors current glasses. Phase 3 was when they hit or stride, but people act like that was the case through all 3 phases. And for what it's worth, I think another contributing factor to some of the mixed bag reactions to 4 & 5, is because Marvel was trying to do something different and let their creatives have more freedom, after being criticized for being too much of a "formula" through the Infinity Saga. You live and you learn. And yeah, it also should be noted that even in this late stage, the MCU had a bit of a streak in 2024 where ppl thought they'd be a bit more low-key. Counting animated series, XMen 97, Deadpool & Wolverine and Agatha all dropped consecutively, much to the praise of the wider fandom. I know that was then, and this is now (after a matter of months lol), but we've been shown that Marvel does still got it in them. As with anything, like you said: cautious optimism...

[@gcolbyp]

@@thedefinitionisthis Last year was definitely an improvement over 2023 for the most part. Agatha I didn’t have much interest going in and I surprisingly enjoyed that show a lot and it got better as it went on, it’s basically what I wish some previous shows and what hope some of the shows take notes on: Have a show runner with a clear vision and tell a good story within those episodes.

[@tonymoviechappied9neillblo996]

@@gcolbyp yeah and is they really anything to worry about this trailer show exactly what daredevil born again should be and keeping that original tone and feel like the netflix and the fact that marvel paused the production just to redo it again make it feel more in line with the netflix give me hope that they definitely improved on past mistakes so I personally think this is a win all around

[@bensneb360]

This looks likes Marvels version of The Penguin, and that has me excited

[@mrstrangeworld5977]

nah penguin version of daredevil since that came first

[@mrlennydominguez]

Ben Affleck Was The DareDevil in The 2003 Live Action Daredevil Movie

[@5504berry]

DD took his mask.

[@adhdgaming976]

The people in these comments just love to hate can’t wait for this show

[@thebonk7138]

Can you blame them, mcu hasn't had an esteemed track record for shows almost at all

[@terrellthaddies7867]

​​@@thebonk7138Eh

[@thedefinitionisthis]

Lol to be fair, they are about to address Tiamut in “Brave New World.” Kingpin’s mayoral aspirations were established in “Echo.” The only live-action entries that came out last year were “Deadpool and Wolverine” and “Agatha,” neither of which are street-level, and damn sure aren’t affected by an NYC election lol. Just playing devil’s advocate here; the MCU still has its connections. But it’s so interesting to see ppl be so back and forth about how much connectivity there is or isn’t. People don’t want overt shoehorned references being like “remember this happened?”… but then they also complain that there aren’t enough connections between entries anymore. It’s the damndest thing. Anyway, this looks great. Looking forward to it. As much as ppl are still harping on Marvel, they did just come off a 2024 which saw “XMen 97,” “Deadpool and Wolverine” and “Agatha All Along” drop back to back to back, to damn near universal acclaim from the fandom. But hey, “what have you done for me lately?”

[@CharlesHeureaux]

"Under Disney" people act like phase 4 and 5 was all Disney made, Disney has been making Marvel movies since A1....

[@ashtonturner2862]

Jessica Jones was announced to make an appearance. I hope if Luke Cage is back that they have Luke & Jessica are married with a kid from the comics.

[@Screlz]

In the comics when Kingpin becomes mayor, he gets possessed by Greed. Daredevil saved Fisks soul. Fisk took that to heart

[@Ramen_Hibachi]

I’m so glad it’s TV MA and not watered down like Moon Knight and Echo

[@kidz919]

That was a concern I had. I'm glad it's TV MA

[@MikeBree]

Echo wasn't watered down tho🤷🏾‍♂️💯

[@JM-pm1yb]

The trailer for Echo was also gritty, violent, and looked great. …….we all know how that turned out!

[@melbrown2295]

Despite the violence being scaled back, I actually enjoyed both “Echo” and “Moon Knight”.

[@BlackLotus2077]

Wasn’t Echo also TV-MA?

[@NcikDaiz209]

Hope they get iron fist back.

[@adampellett4917]

I hope Disney and Marvel kept the comic book elements for that show.

[@DetroitAlan01]

The Punisher doesn’t have PTSD. Frank Castle is always calm, cool and collected. The guy is basically a serial killer, with elite, tier-1 military conditioning. And, his MO is “punishing” violent criminals. He’s not working through trauma. He likes doing what he does, because he’s wired that way. Problem is the studios don’t feel comfortable with that, so they always come up with something to make him more sympathetic. Frank Castle ain’t sympathetic. It’s just the people he goes after are worse. Make him sympathetic by showing how far Castle will go to stick to his code (no innocent casualties, no law enforcement).

[@RJ-Ramen]

Thank goodness they realized making this a legal drama was the wrong move. This looks like it could be season 4 of the Netflix show. That elbow bone snapping was wild.

[@christopherrobin7413]

Wasn't Netflix basically just a distributor for the original Daredevil series? As far as I can tell from the credits, the original series was produced by Disney just like the new one. People talk about the old show like Netflix MADE it, but it was Disney that hired everyone involved and paid for it. Netflix just paid for the exclusive rights to show it....till they lost those rights because Disney now has its own streaming destination to push.

[@thefirstbourne149]

Whatever it was, the seasons originally on Netflix do feel very different from any Disney+ Marvel show.

[@christopherrobin7413]

@@thefirstbourne149 For sure. And the ones that aired on ABC (SHIELD) and Hulu (Runaways, Legion) feel different too. But they were all produced by the same company!

[@tristanmilner9511]

Of course there will be some humor. Foggy and Matt are the best avocados around.

[@nickvaughn8533]

Respect Korey’s opinion but I’m just tired of the negativity around Marvel anytime they announce or do anything. I agree that the quality hasn’t been great (I hate Thor 4 with a passion) but I’m also rooting for them to turn things around instead of just giving up on everything. I hope this year they surprise us again and make a comeback

[@thedefinitionisthis]

For what it's worth, 2024 had a bit of a streak for them. While Echo and What If might not have been hits, they had X-Men 97, Deadpool & Wolverine, and Agatha All Along drop consecutively, much to the praise of the wider fandom. But hey... even after a matter of months, it's still "What have you done for me lately?" Lol. Definitely hoping this year will be good for 'em on the big-screen.

[@White_Tiger2169]

The White Tiger was the first Hispanic superhero at Marvel. After he died his niece Angela Del Toro took over. Then his youngest sister Ava Ayala took over.

[@cocus311]

Kingpin trying to outlaw vigilantes Spiderman, Punisher,ect

[@blakethompson5366]

Big fan, love seeing you guys

[@willistodd9]

I'm nowhere near worried about this series John Bernthal The punisher actually told them I would not come back unless the series remain the same as it was on Netflix. That's why I'm not worried.

[@thorkagemob1297]

I have the exact same reasoning for why I'm not worried.

[@kicknowledgesmith8608]

well his season 2 was a step down from season 1, what he thinks and what fans think could be different. Violence and blood are not the only elements that made the show good, It still needs a good story. The best parts could all be in the trailer. I hope it's good. I could be 5 slow episodes until some action. This is the concern of many, plus it's Disney and Daredevil has Catholic themes. we shall see. I remember Echo trailer was violent and bloody and all those good parts from the trailer were in the first episode then fell off a cliff and that was TV MA. I looked up a few writers and they have CW credits on Arrow Naomi and Flash. I think one is from Loki. I think only one is from season 3 of DD. The plus side is they got a show runner for this. They usually don't have one.

[@kidz919]

Now that it's TV MA, my only concern is them trying to do a soft reboot. That dont make sense when its still supposed to be canon

[@mrstrangeworld5977]

it is canon korey was almost OK with it being a soft reboot

[@DrJay-iy8rv]

I’ve heard reports and they’re keeping it in canon with the Netflix show

[@kidz919]

​@@DrJay-iy8rvIf that's the case then good

[@kidz919]

​@@mrstrangeworld5977I'm not a fan of soft reboots. They kinda don't make sense to me. You like need to commit. It's either a reboot or it's not.

[@thedefinitionisthis]

It's canon. Hell, if you have Disney+, and you hit up the MCU franchise Timeline Order, you'll see that all the Netflix Defenderverse shows are now listed alongside the wider MCU shows/movies.

[@travisrochelle4499]

I thought Kingpin got shot in the face

[@pbjaffri]

im just excited to see michael gandolfini in ddba !! im looking forward, that kid got his father blood and talent in him!

[@Rabid4Rachel]

They should just turn Daredevil into a daytime soap opera type superhero show with special guests week to week. Like Luke Cage or an iron man.

[@TheKickass85]

They actually gave the reason why the white tiger is in this, TV series daredevil operates out of Hell's Kitchen New York neighborhood, and white tiger is taking over the area when the violence is so rampant that he has to fight back and he finds the mystical necklace, and he also gains abilities of the three people who wore the separate necklace all three of them are martial artists, Hector is not a martial artist, and the person who became the next white tiger was Hector's niece.

[@mistercard3599]

The entire reason the Netflix stuff was done to begin with was to be connected to the MCU. I do not understand why people have such a problem with this. It is not that hard to compartmentalize and separate them in your head while still accepted them as part of one whole universe.

[@360.Tapestry]

this would be a perfect setup for the street-level spider-man marvel was toying around with doing - spider-man hanging out with daredevil, luke cage, and even iron fist would be cool

[@MrBen10075]

Disney produced and wrote the Netflix shows under ABC studio.

[@TubiTuesdays]

The Netflix series were always connected agents of shield eventually wasn’t.

[@luvaboy772]

Marvel has said that Celestial sticking out of the ocean will be addressed in 'Captain America: Brave New World' and that the MCU's Adamantium will be reversed engineered from the metal of that Celestial.

[@kronos1794]

The MCU can course correct. Keep Fisk as mayor, and at the end of Cap 4 have Ross step down to make room for Norman Osborn as president which gives a clear path to Dark Avengers. Starting back street level after Endgame was always the smartest move.

[@alexanderdelrisco1257]

I loved the trailer for this. It was amazing! I hope it’s good & it’s nice to see the original cast back together. It’s also nice to see Jon Bernthal back as the Punisher. And I think that in one of the MCU Spider Man movies there’s a scene with Matt Murdock, played by the same actor Charlie Cox, with Peter Parker which does prove that the Netflix shows are set in the MCU. I find it completely bizarre because of the fact that they are dark, edgy, mature, & violent they are. But yeah, I’ve gotten used to that already. And yeah, I would love to see a revival of the Punisher, Jessica Jones, & Luke Cage. I’ll be honest I’m more excited for the Punisher because the Punisher is one of my favorite antiheroes & I like more antiheroes than I do heroes & villains. And the Punisher is one of my favorites. So yeah, can’t wait for that.

[@adamclinton8650]

This gonna be the best marvel series of all time! Daredevil is my boy!

[@ericng7015]

After his boy The Punisher finally arrived at the MCU Korey still have concerns? 😅

[@goldsearcher7606]

At least they’re gonna finally mention and acknowledge the hand sticking out of the ocean in Captain America: Brave New World.

[@KayeMoon90]

💜I’m going to give it a shot, but I love Elden Henson so I’d be miffed if they tried to recast

[@Skeezer66]

Not all reworks are the same. I think Marvel brought back the Netflix people to do Daredevil Reborn. Marvel's tv branch used to be run as separate units, which is why there were so few crossovers between films and tv. Now that they're under one 'umbrella' there should be more synergy.

[@wongjefx980]

I might be better than Netflix versions on the pacing. Netflix required minimum runtime and number of episodes. Disney seems more lenient on that for sake of storytelling. Netflix episodes seem to drag at times.

[@ZeroChanseX]

I'm pretty matt took that red mask from the robber to take down the other robbers in the heist. Cause he couldn't get to his suit

[@teonsimmons4077]

Looks like one of the only reasons I'll ever subscribe to Disney+. The trailer looks awesome.

[@stephen2597]

It looks promising, but the development hell this went through has me cautious 🤞🏻

[@RJ-Ramen]

I wouldn’t call it development hell. They realized they had fucked due and needed to lean into the Netflix canon and vibe entirely. I’d label it a smart realization and remedy.

[@chrisf5828]

There was nothing hellish about it.

[@MrGNugget]

It wasn’t development hell, Disney tried to make the show completely different from the Netflix one, saw the fans’ negative response, then re-hired the same team who worked on the Netflix series. It was smooth sailing from that point

[@thorkagemob1297]

Jon Bernthal wouldn't have returned as Punisher if it was gonna be watered down. That simple fact gives me peace of mind.

[@stephen2597]

I’m just always cautious when things are heavily re-written/shot. I loved the Netflix series so this change is definitely a positive sign

[@marcushamner5994]

Vincent D’onafrio said DD Born Again is an adaptation of “The Devil Reign’s” arc. Which means I hope we see Luke Cage, Jessica Jones, Iron Fist, Colleen Wing, Misty Knight and many more return. Luke is the current mayor of New York in the Marvel Lore.

[@sweetchristmas92]

I love how brutal this show looks especially when you compare it to the Netflix series. With all this Disney money, that bigger budget contributed to bigger and better fight choreography, enhanced action, cinematography, the writing and acting is on par with the Netflix series. Adding Muse, and letting Kingpin, and Bullseye fully unleashed there will be a lot of blood and gore almost horror like this season. This will go beyond what Netflix could’ve done, and Marvel studios retooled the season to get back to its dark and gritty routes. Everything about the story, characters even staying in line with the broader mcu is definitely the direction the OG series was destined to lead to. Born Again will be something special, and season 2 is about to start filming! I love how Matt’s ninja skills are at its true potential as well, his hits land hard and bloody, wearing the suit and fighting crime as the devil of Hell’s Kitchen is a calling. The Devil is Back🔥

[@cantControlLife]

Trailer looked good

[@luchamiomaridekakio6429]

I wish they could have Daredevil fight one villain that actually had superpowers instead of just punching powers. Keep Kingpin and Bulleseye but add one with diff cool powerset

[@rickyclover9393]

This MCU on the ropes. Cap 4, Fantastic 4 and Daredevil: Born Again has hit it out the park. This is their most dire year. No more EFF UPS, Marvel!

[@thedefinitionisthis]

"On the ropes" is a bit much, when they're coming off a year that gave fans X-Men '97, Deadpool & Wolverine, and Agatha All Along; all projects that were received extremely well by fans.

[@mrstrangeworld5977]

yh that's a lie

[@BattleBeast5]

​@@thedefinitionisthisAgatha is garbage, Deadpool and Wolverine is mid, only X-Men show is good.

[@mrstrangeworld5977]

@@BattleBeast5 That isn't true and the majority disagree

[@Trektech1980]

That diner scene is epic and the show hasn't even aired yet 💪🏾. Let's bring back Luke Cage too!

[@melbrown2295]

“It’s not me nitpickin’…” …and then proceeds to NITPICK. 🙄

[@thefirstbourne149]

For him it might be legitimate concerns. Nitpicking doesn’t always mean just looking for flaws, man.

[@mrstrangeworld5977]

​​@@thefirstbourne149Nah his complaints were definitely nitpicks because it can easily be debunked or rebuttal he even preferences by saying you'll see where jm coming from and nah I disagree with that

[@sebastiantrias1529]

I’ll like to believe this will be good, but like a bunch of other Marvel shows, I’ll be skeptical.

[@Daynnikes]

Did everybody forget Kingpin just got shot in his eye? What happened to that?

[@terminalva]

1. Vincent D'Onofrio is back? I'm already interested!!! 2. They screwed up on Moon Knight, IMO. After that, the MCU shows weren't even on my radar until now. Hopefully, they do this one justice.

[@curtisharris966]

Aside from the development hell daredevil looks amazing. The concerns are understandable but let them cook. Their original plan sucked.

[@jacobwaldrop8604]

Weird. Deadpool and Wolverine was one of my favorite MCU movies. Shang Chi is a top 10 for me with a top 5 villain. Mrs. Marvel, Agatha, and Loki 2 were both great shows. It has been a rough time, but it hasn't been all bad. I even liked most of Moon Knight and Falcon&WS until they rushed the end.

[@JM-pm1yb]

I hope they don’t pull an Echo and only have Frank Castle for 1 minute of screen time 😂

[@knockdadeathstroke3799]

Nope

[@mikebrady8866]

I don't understand the critics hating Secret Invasion. I enjoyed most of it, except Samuel L. Jackson tounging down that alien at the end lol

[@EdwardSanchezProductions]

I heard that they reshoot the whole show

[@spydey2k]

Y'all are aware that it was Disney Marvel that made the Netflix show? It was just distributed to Netflix.

[@BaithNa]

It was a different studio because Marvel studios and Marvel television were two separate studios back then. Now all of the television people are gone and it's just the movie people making this show.

[@tapset]

It was a different studio.

[@melbrown2295]

@@tapsetIt was ABC that produced it.

[@JM-pm1yb]

We’re not to different, you and I. -Doctor Evil-

[@BaithNa]

Pretty sure Green Goblin said it to Spider-man first

[@stormwulf117]

Disney should have just let Kevin Smith write a Daredevil series.

[@BlakeCausey-x9o]

I believe in this series

[@EdwardSanchezProductions]

Daredevil is back y’all

[@Dookieman1975]

As for martins worries about too many superheroes we’re not watching a daredevil show for, I think there should be more than Matt and Frank if they’re gonna have Fisk outlaw vigilantes or superheroes as a whole and maybe rely on the sakovia accords every single time he brings it up

[@ElToroBoyd]

Sooner or later the Registration Act Bill will come back again in the MCU.

[@JoshuaSandusky]

If they screw up Daredevil, Disney is hopeless. Resurrecting this world was the right move. But they CANNOT get this one wrong.

[@derick_kakuru]

The trailer is great