DARIENNE LAKE | Give It To Me Straight | Ep22

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In today’s episode, I talk with Darienne Lake about depression, exploitative reality tv talk shows, goat cheese and so much more.
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--Timestamps--
00:00 Intro
02:14 Billie Eilish Runway
05:55 Fear of Heights / Call of the Void
09:52 Finding Yourself / Top Era
15:10 Mommy Issues / Getting Kicked Out
21:13 Daddy Issues / Flintstone Gummy Abuse
26:33 Starting Drag / Opening Pandora’s Boxx
30:16 Boys Will Be Girls / Ricki Lake Show
34:54 Big Girl Woes
38:17 Butch Queen / Depression
45:08 Tumblr Girlie
47:45 Drag Race and All Stars / Fan Reception
51:24 Accidental Lady of the Night
53:06 Parting Gift / Outro

[@maddymorphosisofficial]

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[@user-cl4ve8cn4g]

….or kYS 🤷‍♂️

[@megib901]

Betterhelp is a sham and a scam. It's disappointing that you and other KZbinrs keep accepting sponsoring by them. I know this comment will most likely be deleted but I hope that if you see it before that happens it at least hits your conscious a minimum that you're advertising a SCAMMM to mentally unwell people or anyone for that matter.

[@ninapilgrim]

...not this

[@itnas198]

Its funny that of all videos u could put a theraphy add a put in the one with the most traumatized stories poor Darianne

[@conorclancy6291]

BetterHelp is famously shitty. I know money talks but always disappointed to see people shill for them.

[@dereklouism]

The way Maddy is sitting like she's a girl listening to stories from her grandmother

[@Nehu_22]

I mean...

[@firebrandr]

@@Nehu_22SHADYY

[@raqueldeshow9678]

HAHAHAHAHHAHA

[@lovethefields]

Let it be known Maddy and his girlfriend are the nicest people

[@callmemax029]

LMAOO💀

[@nicholasloyal4039]

Maddy be slaying tf out of these interviews. Miss Darienne is a fucking legend

[@sans3go342]

Just say old.....j/k kimora

[@Flirtini]

@@sans3go342 you act like you won't be old someday, give it a rest

[@glampingo]

Darienne deserves to be heard. Maddy was really polite with her.

[@sans3go342]

@@Flirtini but I said J/K..... Also the quote is from Raja. When people call her a legend, she takes it as "old."

[@nialabalgobin6016]

I love Darienne!!!!!!

[@Dalsemien]

Darienne was criminally robbed on AS8. She did not deserve all of her bottom placements

[@johunguj7594]

She deserves ball clearly

[@guestguest7543]

Eh, no. But I still like her lol

[@saucytruffle4738]

but she's a top??? 😂

[@glampingo]

Somebody needed to be in the bottom. Unfortunately, her runways let her down.

[@MARTPOP]

@@glampingo her runways!? She was one of my picks for the fame games along with Kahanna. Dariene's looks were good

[@julietteangeli]

I think this interview had the longest uninterrupted answers by any guest so far. It was still a funny interview, but I appreciate the fact that Maddy really gave Miss Lake the space to share and get really deep sharing her experiences.

[@glampingo]

Darienne has said a lot stuff which is not really glamorous but it's still important to know how bodyshaming, homophobia and misandry hurts a lot of young boys.

[@jhubeJELLO]

if you wanna hear more of Miss Lake, watch her appearances on Roscoe's viewing parties. She's hilarious

[@kennvega835]

I screamed when she said she went from the greatest season of drag race to the worst season of all stars. HAHAHA She’s not wrong

[@jayphxer]

her billie eilish look changed lives

[@AshleyBush-ld8bk]

How🤔🤷🏽😅

[@pixiestxNyomouf]

It's was really underrated and it also called attention to "street drag" and what is considered that, since she wasn't wearing street drag but the "future fashion" like they were told. Very trendy and on the mark for the assignment I applaud her timely reference as well considering Ru is stuck in the mid-80s

[@foxfire5092]

Billie eilish is in no way a style icon..

[@AxlAX]

​@@foxfire5092I mean if you're going for a trashy trailer look, she's your gal!

[@fourleafproductions9788]

​@@foxfire5092i mean you say that but of you see someone in a bucket hat and baggy t-shirt who do you think of?

[@redscrunchie222]

Darienne as Billie changed america, Maddy as Billie changed the world.

[@jacobi1564]

it's a big day for darienne, but it's also a big day for maddie

[@graybirdynamnam]

Billie Eilish Darienne walked so Billie Eilish Madeline could fly

[@questioningaboutmyexistenc800]

I love Sasha Velour doing the sponsor 🥰

[@couldntpickone]

STOP-🖐😭

[@AsukaS1993]

I can't unsee her now 😂

[@lisawhereisthecultjam]

😂

[@Kay-cp8tg]

Omg I thought that too

[@That_dude91]

Listening to Darienne makes me so sad, honestly. There's so much pain in her and she's obviously still hurting so much like so many of us are, I just want to give her a hug and tell her she's safe and loved!

[@chikoazul]

don't patronize her💀

[@anonymoususer9197]

​@@chikoazulempathizing is not patronizing. Yea she will be fine and she doesn't necessarily need it but a hug and encouraging words go a long way

[@dino2064]

Shame on me for never appreciating Darienne as much as she deserves. Her story, humor, everything. God I love this milf. She looks absolutely beautiful too

[@bevalasvegas]

Her makeup on all stars was top notch

[@drewsy4788]

Thank you Darienne for being so open and honest. I have never felt so seen watching an interview. It is really very challenging growing up as chubby and queer and I did not realize how my eating addiction/disorder was so influenced by being a closeted queer in an extremely homophobic environment. Eating and staying overweight truly was a way to hide from homophobic insults and questions about my sexuality, but it was also a way to cope with it. Darienne articulated this issue so well. So people watching this should give more grace to chubby people, especially those who are chubby kids. There is so much complexity into being overweight and it is a constant battle between yourself and society. Thank you Maddy for creating a space for this important conversation, and thank you once again Darienne for being so vulnerable while still being a great example of perseverance and self-love.

[@glampingo]

Plus, this awful misandry about dressing. Girls can wear anything girlish and boyish but for boys it's always a challenge.

[@melatomic]

@glampingo Who gave you the idea that biological girls can wear anything, and get away with wearing anything without a challenge. You should /could probably challenge that idea / optional / progressive.

[@melatomic]

Maddy,..you have done little justice for Darian [this time]. You have failed to present this individual in a positive slant, no matter what.

[@chilenapromedioRU]

​@@glampingoPlease stop spreading hate towards women. Both Darienne and Maddy are Drag Queens, and specially Darienne grew up in the old school of "female impersonation". I've read a few of your hateful "battle of the sexes" comments here that have NOTHING to do with this interview. This comment in particular it's quite ignorant, you have no idea what is like to grow up in a female body and no matter how you dress, you can't hide certain things after puberty hits and back in the day, yes most likely due to homophobia, sexual harassment in the streets even when people was around was directed toward us, no matter how much we covered our hips or tried to "pass as a boy" to avoid being groped in the streets by paedos, because no one cared if we were 14 year old girls, but if we were 14 year old boys other men (homophobic machistas) would have beaten up the sexual harasser for touching a boy, but they couldn't care less if it was a girl, because girls shouldn't be alone in the streets after sundown anyways. I don't want to comment anymore about this issue because this is about what DARIENNE SHARED WITH US.

[@Spookybluelights]

Darienne and Maddy are the queens of sleeper jokes that you slide in at the last second.

[@herehoo]

Maddy's Guest list is unmatched! I wouldn't be surprised if mama Ru made an appearance herself lol

[@Nehu_22]

Could you believe it? That'd be interesting

[@simont390]

Ew absolutely not

[@blu_ranger71]

I don't think Maddy needs to lower her standards quite that much.

[@ptboy18]

RuPaul would micromanage and probably not answer any questions or funny reads thrown at him. He's too far disconnected from just a normal nonscripted conversation. 90's RuPaul YES , RuPaul today ...probably not.

[@TheRokstarchik101]

@@ptboy18Ru could be alright. She was funny as hell in the in bed with Joan interview. I think that was in the 2010s.

[@gadomoya]

As someone also born in '94, I fully understand Maddy weaponizing her age because we only have so much time left until we're no longer in our 20s

[@xoparker]

🙏😭

[@JunniorStarLight]

Honestly Darienne did serve with that Billie Eilish look, haters gonna hate, I personally found it refreshing like... when was the last time a queen served pants? or a shirt? I loved that

[@richardchen7062]

The inspiration for Princess Poppy

[@nootdraws]

20:50 as an aromantic person, I love hearing Darienne Lake talk about her romantic life (or lack thereof). As far as I’m aware, she doesn’t use the aromantic label, but the feelings she articulates do resonate with me and my experience of being aromantic. Hearing someone with such a large platform talk about how platonic relationships are fulfilling and that friends can be soulmates is such a breath of fresh air. Especially when she talks about how society can be very romance-obsessed, which I don’t often hear being discussed outside of aromantic circles. Wonderful interview as per usual, Maddy is very good at matching her guests’ energy and going above and beyond in her questions. I always feel like I leave her interviews actually knowing more about the guest than when I started, rather than hearing about if they’d rather hunty the boots slay down, or sissy the drop mama gorg for the seventy-thousandth time.

[@fernandoherreragonzalez685]

I was feeling the same way!! As a new person entering in this journey of labeling myself as an aromantic person, I resonate so much of Darienne experience, but i didn't know why until i read your comment. Thank you so much for sharing c:

[@YeyazWyrd]

Totally!!! Yes thank you Darienne so much for just expressing yourself!! It's so relieving to hear that someone else is going through something similar! ❤

[@zzzzZZZZzzzzszaZZZ]

Love that for us aros that we have a follow up to that small bit in as8 where Darienne showed some glimmers of having aro experiences. Thank you so much ms Lake!! You are needed in this world 🤎🤎

[@slightlysasie535]

I felt the same way! It's really nice to hear her perspective.

[@glampingo]

Darienne is a really great speaker. Inspirational!

[@CamPalinSmith]

Maddy serving Steve Jobs realness in the sponsorship segment.

[@madunicorn4568]

Its the straight man in her

[@SignalHillHiker]

"Who told you about Billie Eilish?" killed me SO early into the interview lol

[@sunnylilme]

I lost 175 lbs, but spent decades morbidly obese. Everything she says here is so relatable to me.

[@j.b.abraham4175]

I truly appreciate how in-depth Maddy researches and dresses to surprise and compliment her guests. Journalists like quality, and I love the sponsors cos-play costumes. Attention to detail and well thought out. I loved all your guests so far, and how you can deadpan joke with them. I wished we could have seen more of you on drag race. Great channel, Maddy 👏

[@bratpackbimbo]

this kind of broke my heart i had no idea how much abuse she went through :(

[@ZeroFacade0]

MADDY THE TURTLENECK I love, these videos are so good and I always look forward to the sponsorship cosplay 💀

[@kelseyjaffer]

Steve Jobs realness!!!

[@fvllreal]

Michael Foucault da house down

[@Blueraylove]

Rupaul BOOTS

[@y.m.or.4053]

My favorite is still the Surfshark shark costume 😂

[@honeyswann]

Felonious Gru realness

[@ColtonMyers1]

I have never clicked so fast on a Madeline Morphosis video! Darienne is one of the most underrated, and exceptionally talented queens - and, one of my personal favorites!! 😍

[@carrietobey6091]

I love that, Madeline Morphosis 😅😅

[@Robertjay27]

This interview is such a testament to how AS8 was a complete disservice to Darienne. What a fucking icon. This interview was fascinating and super insightful. It’s such a blessing that Darienne is still here. Once again, Maddy is incredible. This is quickly becoming my favorite show on KZbin. Also Darienne looks sooooo good.

[@Blasfamous8]

What I love about Darienne is that she does not hold back- for better or worse. She wears her heart on her sleeve and lets the world see her beauty and her ugly, unapologetically. Whereas you have like Bendela who, though I love her, is quite closed off and professional. She doesn’t want to be raw or unfiltered, she has a polished drag persona and that’s what she shares with the world. But it’s the queens that share their true selves with audiences and viewers that fans connect with beyond their aesthetic or catch phrases. An overweight queer person growing up lonely and insecure with parents that don’t accept them and works several jobs at a time to make a living- THAT is relatable content.

[@haydenfisher1387]

She's a true Upstate NY diva lol, just unfiltered lol

[@collinmcdaniel5683]

Maddy seriously needs to be a host on The Pit Stop

[@TheDopekitty]

This can't be said enough. Is there a petition out there in support of this idea?

[@nicks.6524]

YESSSS

[@wetbread6757]

Maddy deserved more coins than what the pit stop can bring

[@ejej1187]

why though, they would edit her in a way that would probably detract from her style

[@latetothegame4208]

I would love to see that

[@edenkali2157]

I love Darienne Pond, she's one of the most genuine, funny and smart drag queens.

[@LanaDelRhoades]

Father continues to feed the children with content thank god

[@alexandere7023]

And I'm eating it up nom nom nom nom nom bahahah

[@neljonhporia]

Still hungryyy neeed moreeeee content

[@susioeandno1else]

Ummm, don't you mean mother?

[@DA-te5be]

Daddy Maddy

[@moppupaws]

@@susioeandno1else maddy is father and mother

[@rockymtranger]

7:52 So Heather Skye was an actual drag queen from Rochester at Club Marcella the same time Darienne and Pandora were there. RIP Heather

[@tunamom7898]

"I'm named after an amusement park because most guys that ride me vomit" made me do a legitimate spit take over my keyboard, thank you darienne. idk why it just tickled me

[@schm4943]

Darienne might be one of the most quick witted people that exists in the world. What an icon.

[@JeffreyD44]

I have loved Darienne for years. So excited to watch this. Bravo 💙🌈💙

[@mirahammal6549]

Wow. Over the months, it's been great fun watching Maddy get increasingly comfortable and confident in her show format and ability to balance humor with allowing the guests to really show themselves, but this interview is all together a different animal. Maddy, you did a really nice job making space for Darienne to share her at times very raw and painful story without it feeling like someone exploiting or wallowing in her trauma, nor trying to make light of it, nor treating her with pity or avoiding humor where it made sense. I also appreciate the pairing with the sponsor/sponsor's message and your own vulnerability there. For an interview that could potentially be very hard or even retraumatizing for some to watch, normalizing talking to someone before the interview even began seems a good move. Thanks Darienne and Maddy for such a sincere and open interview.

[@Jululuian]

Darienne is so effortlessly funny 😂 just one liners that fit perfectly. Such a great guest 👌🏽

[@marandaranda]

“Two Barneys and a Wilma” “Do you know about the arson” THIS INTERVIEW CHILD MY GOD

[@krd2331]

The poppers joke literally had me cackling out loud. 😂😂😂

[@moppupaws]

darienne has always made me so proud to be born and raised in rochester. i mean the city itself is kinda garbage but damn our drag is great and underrated

[@kerryrose6504]

kasha, aggy, ambrosia, and darienne make up one of the tightest, best lineup ive seen fr

[@didyoujustsh.tyourself7142]

Darienne is so good at telling stories and just being able to entertain while just speaking, I realised I was half way through with it feeling like 5 minutes

[@VAMPYRICBASSIST]

Darienne is cracking me up! She needs her own show!😂❤😂❤😂❤ Btw, I truly connected with her when she was talking about feeling unwelcome by her mother. My father is just like that. Thank you for sharing your story! We love you!!!❤❤❤

[@SunnyMuffinsRox]

This was an incredibly heart-breaking interview, Darienne is incredible for sharing her story.

[@geenalawrence8338]

Darienne Lake is A LEGEND! Stan this woman.

[@voidfly]

drink every time Darienne casually slides a joke into the conversation, but be warned that you may die before the 30 minute mark

[@PavlosViscacha]

Additionsl bonus: drink every time she says “or whatever”

[@benm3382]

I watch Drag Race religiously yet I don't watch many interviews because they often devolve to yass queen and cackling about boring ish. Maddy's interviews are so engaging, it's way beyond just kiking with the queens

[@michaelsherwood5818]

the way darienne isn't even remotely shocked that maddy knew that much about her she's just vibing

[@martha-anastasia]

Darienne, you are loved. You are adored. You are talented and beautiful and amazing. Keep on slaying.

[@StellaFl]

Never has an interview moved me so deeply. Punch after punch after punch. Darienne, we all love you without your permission. Imagine what would happen if only you gave people permission to love you.

[@catp3717]

I feel this. If she reads it, I hope she feels it too.

[@StellaFl]

@@catp3717 ❤

[@ewbstudio]

I love that they brought up the amusement park bc as someone from Rochester whenever rupaul says “dive into the cool waters of darienne lake” I can’t help but laugh since it is a literal six flags

[@stephanogonzalezortiz2644]

So can we now start the campaign for Maddy to be the host of the pit stop for season 16 of DragRace?

[@ichi_san]

This was really moving, thank you for sharing. Miss Darienne is amazing and I am glad to have watched this

[@scottclapson]

We were famous at the Olive Garden for a month or two. -Darriene Lake

[@cal7148]

The French give me the crepes lmao 🤣 she’s so witty, she deserved so much better on as8.

[@MeganSin]

Between darienne and latrice, it’s really nice to see maddy volunteer her time at the old folks home listening to their stories. You’re for sure gonna get into a good college with all this volunteer work lol

[@richardchen7062]

JAIL 😂😂😂

[@Phoenixrising09]

I struggle with my weight and this is definitely something I can relate to. Thank you for sharing your story and reminding me the importance of loving yourself and having a great support system

[@dragspread]

Maddy! Thank you for producing this content and giving us quality. I truly respect your approach and this is by far the best interview type of drag show. Keep up the great work.

[@emilydd]

Obsessed with Darienne, what an amazing queen. So inspirational.

[@YeyazWyrd]

Damn... Darienne was relatable from the beginning but now I've watched the whole thing all i can say is DAMN she is so relatable. It got creepy at the left-handed part. Love you babe, keep in keeping on! Maddy rocks these interviews, one of the few interviewers who lets the guests actually speak and asks interesting questions.

[@wiktor7279]

i hope in the future you will talk with legend Lala Ri

[@antorberrguilar7267]

11:59 Darienne Lake is in her Top Era and I’m here for it ❤

[@tylerbeauchemin6483]

so obsessed with these from maddy, the interviews are so well done and you learn so much it’s amazing

[@sorlee1]

19:38 "My younger sister had a bastard child. They used to call it that" 😂😂😂 I'm dying!!

[@angiepangie989]

Fuckin dead bc it's so real 😂😂

[@OrangeXenon54]

OMFG, Darienne, that "call of the void" thing happens to me, too, and I never had a term for it. Thank you for sharing yourself with us! We love you!!!

[@alycia2771]

It’s technically called intrusive thoughts, usually from an anxiety disorder. Just thought I’d let you know in case it’s an issue for you, I wish I knew what they were faster!

[@JayJayJyeBoy]

The French call it l’appel du vide, and it is simply a fear trigger in the brain when you have control in a dangerous situation, like looking out of a window and intrusively experiencing what it would be like to fall. It’s a lil psychological phenomenon, nothing more. x

[@Beardlybeloved]

Really enjoyed this one, darienne’s dark sense of humor never disappoints. I would like to point out that she absolutely did show she can deliver fashion on AS8. I was super proud of her entire package, even if she got shafted during the season.

[@LeHuy-hs2db]

The guests just keep better and better. I love these interviews.

[@kirkris7563]

UGH this has done Darienne wonders! Thank you for creating a platform for queens to shed light on themselves in a positive, unedited and enlightening way 🎉❤

[@graciehardy4480]

My favorite episode so far I am obsessedddddddd with y’all together

[@jusegarcia9597]

Maddy’s commitment to the sponsors is another reason I watch these interviews 😂I love it! 0:16

[@gabrielleraul488]

Hands down, the best episode so far. My love and respect for Darienne has just multiplied ❤️🧡💛💚💙💜

[@ryeco5428]

She’s so incredible. I love hearing her way of storytelling . I could listen to her talk for ages .

[@quantafreeze]

Knocked this interview out of the park Maddy. Great job. I Love Darien.

[@haynesefield]

Amazing interview. I'm so moved by Darienne words

[@barryanagrande1830]

I LOVE DARIENNE SO MUCH!! Thank you Maddy for bringing her to us!

[@michelewolff]

Ugh I love Darienne so much. I'm so grateful she is still hear. I relate so much to her stories about struggling with her weight. I'm so glad she shared with us.

[@Raynayn]

I LOVE DARIENNE SO MUCH AHHHH THANK YOU MADDYLINTRA

[@PaulBlaid]

Love Darienne! She deserves all support!

[@pqlasmdhryeiw8]

Thank you Maddy for helping me connect better with Darienne Lake. It was nice to get to know her better.

[@levankiknadze5354]

This interview was something else, in the best possible way!

[@MollyKillers]

The vibes of this interview are ✨immaculate✨

[@winterkeptuswarm]

Omggg a Maddy video!! So excited. ❤ I love Darienne.

[@ewwitscullen9132]

Such a wonderful interview for someone I truly found so engaging on television!! Adrienne is a fascinating person with a lovely spirit and wicked sense of humor

[@alexanderponomarev8196]

Loved it so much! Darienne is amazing

[@leuvenfra]

Darienne was more vulnerable than i expected. I enjoyed seeing that side of her

[@brianbella3322]

I laughed out loud during this interview so much!!! Thanks!!! :)

[@beandrag9019]

Darienne is so amazing, robbed on all stars and an amazing person

[@kelssann3413]

Im from Rochester, NY and we love Darienne! She is such a legend for our town. We love you Darien! ♡

[@christoffelbotha6916]

Maddy serving boy Trixie - we live!!! ❤❤❤

[@ggggggg62]

It was a lovely interview, Maddy you're really good with and Darrienne is just so charming to listen to. Thank U for this content Maddy 🤜🏻🤛🏻 *bro*

[@Higanoboru09]

Best interview so far. Darienne’s story reflects much of my own, I feel so seen.

[@LP-km7gj]

I am such a Darienne Lake fan! Just love her.

[@loluco25]

absolutely perfect every single time

[@Nicklennon007]

I'm watching this from Rochester as we speak and damn she is speaking the truth about this horrible place.

[@zachdoubled6166]

Yup! Same here

[@maddynye]

as someone who struggles with body/self-esteem issues, i really loved Darienne’s sunset analogy ❤

[@nicholascummings8088]

I love Darienne so much more now! I'm so happy you interviewed her Maddy! She's lovely!

[@Leroy88baby]

Maddy is my favorite drag interviewer. Good banter, good balance, good deep diving into pasts lol dereon is awesome

[@spectaculardenny]

Love u Darienne!! One of the realest

[@johnd.9]

Darienne Lake is a legend and amazing. She is so friendly and fun, she could almost be Canadian. Love you both!!

[@Cat-dr1p]

I literally just started watching season 6. (Right after rewatching AS8 actually) Love Darienne. Awesome interview as always

[@kaitlynblount7683]

I'm from Western New York between Rochester and Buffalo, like Darienne, so I always gotta show love for her. Even if All-Stars wasnt great this season, I was still super excited to see Darienne on. ❤️

[@MisterPreda]

love love loved this ep!!! 🩵🩵🩵

[@karimmaasri1723]

A lovely conversation. I can only admire the resilience and depth (not to forget the comedy) of Darienne Lake. Thank you Maddy for the podcast.