Dark Beauty and the Beast Theories That Change Everything

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Dark Beauty and the Beast Theories That Change Everything
No matter what age, who doesn’t love the beautiful, and somewhat tragic story of Beauty and the Beast. I mean, it’s a story of a woman kidnapped by a beast, who was cursed as a child… along with a whole staff of servants who were turned into objects. Kinda dark… But could there be another side of the story that makes it even darker?
What dark and disturbing theories have fans come up with? How deep does the rabbit hole go and just how dark do things get?
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[@kissarococo2459]

18th c. Art would have depicted 11 year old like a man. True to life was not exactly popular and art served as propaganda. 11 year olds even served in navy as midshipmen and had command over older men with lower ranks. So beast bring 11-year old lord of the house with power to cast out beggars is not impossible.

[@BullyMaguire2024]

Good to evil beauty and the beast

[@dragonsrock6049]

There’s a theory that Chip and his siblings actually aren’t Mrs. Potts’ children at all, but orphans that she took in. They call her Mama because she’s the closest thing they have to a mother in their lives.

[@Kai_The_Kai]

Ok that’s probably the best one of these honestly

[@Eclipsed2412]

I like this theory much better. Since they were in the castle when the curse was placed. It makes it seem that the beast allowed them to stay. Giving the beast a slightly better look despite his reputation.

[@TwinaWina]

That's actually really sweet. I love that.

[@Sparkletta]

Not to mention she looks super old to have such a young child

[@gemlee83]

Or perhaps Chip and siblings were the beasts' illegitimate bastard children that were then taken in, happening before the time loop, and raised by his staff so that noone would know it ot take advantage of the beast...? Another thought. This would mean the spell happened when the beast was at least his teenage years?

[@maclikescartoons]

The reason the painting is the beast as an adult is that there is a theory that the painting aged with him, showing what he would look like to taunt him throughout the years.

[@MaryC861]

I can definitely see that. After all; pretty much the whole castle was enchanted.

[@robertharris6092]

Or the curse turned them to the age they were before they were cursed...

[@jessicavandam7132]

Hmmm...

[@jesusneversinned5985]

As did our human flesh beloved. Our souls, our thoughts, are the curse. Break the curse by breaking immorality

[@10RexTheWolf01]

Make sense since she did curse the castle too and that's probably why Beast destroyed the painting as well.

[@disneyrules7808]

Fun Fact: The Bimbettes are the closest counterparts to Belle's sisters from the original Beauty and the Beast fairy tale.

[@mrcreepypastaigotapastatop4461]

That is a fun fact

[@disneyrules7808]

@@mrcreepypastaigotapastatop4461 Yes it is and thank you for understanding and agreeing with me.

[@mrcreepypastaigotapastatop4461]

@@disneyrules7808 no problem 😁

[@disneyrules7808]

@@mrcreepypastaigotapastatop4461 👍👍👍.

[@arcadiaberger9204]

Tsk, I totally forgot about Belle's sisters, but of course she had them - they asked for extravagant gifts, but she asked only for a rose . . . oops.

[@nerinablais6623]

The time loop theory is the only one that makes sense to me. Also, Beast wasn't shown as being 11 in the sequel, he looked like he was just days away from his 21st birthday, which had been delayed for 10 years because of the curse. "There goes the baker with his tray like always, the same old bread and rolls to sell. Every morning just the same, since the morning that we came, to this small provincial town." The lyrics themselves pretty much indicate that the town is in a time loop.

[@rebeccathegreat8110]

And the 3 ladies don’t forget them!

[@acorneroftheinternet4179]

Or perhaps the writers at the time didn't really think of the implications, and small town life really is just that mundane

[@dandereninja4750]

except that wouldn't explain why all the townsfolk remember Belle and her father. A time loop generally resets everything when it resets, this usually includes memories. Also it wouldn't be unusual for a baker to make the same bread and rolls day in and day out. He would generally cook the same recipes day in and day out because they were what sold. It's possible that those under the effect of the curse didn't age, and those in town were also effected by curse but made to forget the castle as well as to not notice the curses effects on them. It's possible the curse kept people away from both the town and the castle while also keeping the people within the town but forgetting the castle. It's possible the curse also slowed or stopped the aging process as well. It's possible Belle and her father were able to move to the town because Belle was destined to break the curse or because the curse was weakening, but became subject to the curses effects after moving to the town.

[@nicoleackerman205]

As a kid I always thought they were in suspended animation before I had a name for it. Just that they were stuck in the same she forever.

[@wetsocks2897]

ok but why would the fairy do this? what have the villagers ever done to her? i doesnt benefit her, affect the beast negativly or changes the story. i dont see a reason why she would do that. also its been some timesince ive seen this movie so i might not remember it correctly but i always thought that they said at the beginning of the first (and therefore factually reliable) movie that the prince was a young boy when he was cursed.

[@phoneguy4637]

the beast's missing parents are indeed the biggest, oddest and most embarassing plot hole of this movie. in the french original novel "histoire de la belle et la bete" from 1740, the beast's father died at a battle field during war and his mother was locked out off the castle because of the curse.

[@marli8907]

They do a better job with retconning several plotholes in the live action. Including that his mother died when he was very young of sickness, and his father never really forgave him for it. Also, he was 100% an adult when the whole enchantress bit happened. They also explain where the hell Belle's mom is.

[@MissCaraMint]

@@marli8907 but are these really plot holes, or simply things that are not mentioned in the story. A plot hole is generally something that can’t be explained in the narrative of the story. Like how did this person do this, or was at that place when we saw them doing this other thing right before. How did they get there in such a short time? Background information about the parents before the story even starts isn’t relavent for the story the animation is telling so it’s not a plothole, just unimportant info.

[@marli8907]

@@MissCaraMint I agree that Belle's mom isn't important (though it does make a touching moment in the live action). However, Beast's parents whereabouts is kind of a plot hole. According to the story he was punished for turning away a creepy old lady who turns into a "beautiful enchantress" and curses him to be forever cursed if it isn't reversed before "the last petal falls on his 21st birthday." And they say "ten years we've been rusting." So--he was somehow an 11 year old monarch who got punished for turning a stranger away. Where were his parents? How was he 11 and somehow a "prince"? Why does no one seem to remember the monarchy is just--gone? Why can't an 11 year old aristocrat read? And why can peasants read? These may not be HUGE plotholes, but they are plotholes within the context of the story that the live action does a good job remedying.

[@danae5578]

Thank youuuuu! I'm like, wth with the King and Queen/parents?

[@phoneguy4637]

@@danae5578 you're welcome anytime.

[@lulub1433]

Here is my theory: The candle stick was exaggerating when he says it's been 10 years. Maybe he even lost track of time and it felt that way- it sucks being a candle stick. The real time was 3 years. The beast was 18 and she gave him 3 years to find love in his heart. This makes more sense why she would punish him as an adult, and why he looks like his picture, without aging too much. Chip would have made more sense too being maybe 3 when changed and six when changed back.

[@redranger2716]

When you say it like that, expecting a child to not judge based on looks is asking to much. This is Disney! "Bad" is ugly, and "good" is pretty is literally the plot of Snow White, Cinderella and Tangled.

[@charadreemur8884]

@@redranger2716 While I sorta see what you’re saying about Cinderella and Snow White (although snow’s stepmother *is* meant to be the fairest in the land..) why tangled? For tangled, I’d say the bad was greed or vanity, seeking immortality to be forever young and beautiful. Also, I thought about that one tavern, the ugly duckling. They weren’t necessarily bad people but also not quite society’s standards of ‘pretty’ either. So I don’t think what you’re saying fits with tangled

[@redranger2716]

@@charadreemur8884 Yes the bar people were nice to Rapunzel, but it is implied that they have barfights where people get killed, and since they threatened Flynn, I think that they only were so nice to Rapunzel because she was the first female entering for months. Mother Gothel hid her ugly self behind beauty, literally and metaphorically, and since she was actually ugly she was bad, but Flynn Rider with his good looks was able to become nice. I don't think Disney intended for that to be the moral of the story, but they didn't intend that for Snow White either. The intention was to show you can't trust strangers like the old ugly woman, but the young handsome prince may save your life by being necrophilia.

[@charadreemur8884]

@@redranger2716 I’m pretty sure they were nice to her because she asked about their dreams. But for the rest of it, I definitely see your point and agree.

[@iphaoftheisles3952]

@@redranger2716 I was about to suggest that the Ugly Stepsister would have been a female in the tavern, but then I remembered that that was Shrek, not Tangled…

[@Cheddar_Shred]

The time loop theory makes sense because in lines like "IT'S FORBIDDEN!" and "YOU BETTER COME OUT OR I'LL... I'LL... I'LL BREAK DOWN THE DOOR!!!" Sounds like something an 11 year old or a 10 year old would say.

[@arcadiaberger9204]

The Beast definitely sounds like a spoiled brat - as does Gaston....

[@isabellacassidy4108]

So if belle is an adult doesn't that make her a cougar?

[@Cheddar_Shred]

@@isabellacassidy4108 maybe. Or maybe there's some coincidence where Belle and the Beast were both born on the same year, or really close. It could be that his maturity hasn't aged well

[@leahwilson9152]

Well regular eleven year olds don’t snarf down oatmeal without a spoon like an animal, I think it has more to do with the fact that he hasn’t had any real social interaction in ten years. Case in point, the pandemic did similar things to us and that was only 2 years

[@thedragonqueen6304]

It’s forbidden can be a ruler telling someone no to something without giving detail cause u can’t really inquire about something further when u get a response saying something is forbidden

[@ayumitora3471]

What if chip is her grandchild and she raised him because his mother died in childbirth, it was very common back then and the orphans either ended up on the streets or raised by a relative especially if both parents were gone or the remaining one abandoned them (this could still make beast the dad who let his illegitimate son live in the castle as a future servant rased by the grandmother, which was also not unheard of in old times).

[@Rattrap007]

Ayumi tora I always assumed Chip was a grandson or nephew or something like that. Or a child she took care of.

[@Showtunediva]

@@Rattrap007 that was my assumption too!

[@thiccredgyal3404]

Your theory makes sense

[@audreythebookworm]

that is what i always thought

[@demonslayer6588]

Adam and Belle won’t live “happily ever after” because they are royalty in revolution era France.

[@kendallthompson2027]

This is the best way to ruin Beauty and the Beast. Good job!

[@redranger2716]

WHO PAINTED MY ROSES RED???

[@demonslayer6588]

@@redranger2716 Robespierre

[@mrana4186]

Wait, beasts name is actually Adam?

[@applespice6955]

@@mrana4186 yes ٩(^‿^)۶

[@MrJohnffrey87]

When I was little I thought those triplets were Gaston's sisters hence why he didn't seem to be attracted to them and I misheard his line "I've got biceps to spare" as "I've got three sisters to spare".

[@StrangeSpark]

In the fairy tale I read they were Belle's sisters, so similar enough

[@soxpeewee]

I thought they just followed Gaston everywhere and dressed for his attention

[@gracegooding2092]

Smhh

[@princessofslytherin4495]

Sweet Home Alabama

[@dylancarroll4623]

When you think about it, the Beast should really be able to read because he is a prince transformed into a monster.

[@juliannahikaru9912]

But isn't he also losing his humanity?

[@zaktan7197]

I agree, but he could just be pretending to be more rusty than he actually is to spend more time with Belle.

[@abigailfinlayson3044]

i don't know much about there time but I don't think men would get to learn how to read anyway but i might be wrong it just seems like what it would be like

[@Blobpwq]

@@zaktan7197 I would like to think that because it's so sweet

[@jonquilgemstone]

That's why I think he really was a child when cursed.

[@heatherturner2366]

Lumiere said "ten years we been rusting" & the rose would last till the Beast's 21bday yet Chip isn't ten to eleven years old

[@MaryC861]

To me I figured that only the Beast aged because he still had an organic form unlike the servants. This would explain way all the servants still look the same age (when reformed) as they were when they were first cursed.

[@ceilyurie856]

unless he aged, but slower. Keep in mind that at the time preteen prostitutes could be found in most cities in europe AND america. Hell, into the 20th century. Possible an adolescent Beast forced his nanny/housekeeper to satisfy his new urges....but that might be too dark for people.

[@MaryC861]

@@ceilyurie856 Even if an adolescent prince wanted to satisfy his urges; he would want to do it with someone closer to his age and with someone he would deem attractive. "Not" with someone who's pretty much an old woman and essentially a second mother to him. That would make him look like an insane, warped sicko; which is clearly not the intention that the creators of the film had for him.

[@bestn8ivealive1]

How do you know how old chip is?

[@heatherturner2366]

@@bestn8ivealive1 his human form and personality are around 5-7

[@DeadhunterThe]

As for my theory, how about this? The enchantress that cursed the Beast was the mother of the man that painted the infamous portrait of Dorian Gray. What if the rose had a spell cast on it similar to the portrait of Dorian Gray? When the narrator says "which would bloom until his twenty-first year," what he means is, "which would bloom until his twenty-first year as a Beast." The Beast already IS twenty-one years old, and the rose is making him remain that age. The rose represents his birth as the Beast and the start of the death of his humanity. For twenty-one years it's been sucking away and erasing his humanity as the Beast grows older and older. When the rose finally dies, he would have gone from a twenty-one year old man turning into a Beast into just a twenty-one year old Beast with no shred of humanity in him.

[@ceilyurie856]

you are assuming based on modern aoc laws and stuff...even in the 18th century it wasn't uncommon to fidn 8 to 10 year old prostitutes in most european cities, and even in america, hell, even into the 20th century in spots. It is entirely possibly an adolescent Beast forced his nanny to satisfy his hormonal urges...

[@DeadhunterThe]

@@ceilyurie856 I'm not talking about any of the theories listed here, they asked for our OWN theories about Beauty and the Beast. I listed a separate theory from the others here.

[@jaredm2365]

@@DeadhunterThe yeah dude was way off lol

[@nahicorua]

Honestly I would live for a version in which Belle doesn't break the curse in time and so the Beast turns into an ACTUAL beast, it would be dark but so, so cool I'd imagine she manages to escape the castle and locks him there for the rest of eternity along with the servants that are now actual pieces of pottery and she keeps the magic mirror and sees them getting destoyed one by one by their former master knowing she can do nothing to help them anymore- oh my god I need therapy lol

[@alethehero5571]

It clashes a lot with the whole theme of The picture of Dorian Gray. The portrait ages and becomes ugly because it represents Dorian's soul and what would be his real appearance as he acquires more and more vices and becomes crueler. The painter made the picture as an act of worship to Dorian's beauty, and Dorian naively says (after having heard a man's diatribe on the value of beauty and how ephemeral it is) he'd sell his soul if that meant the portrait aged and he stayed looking as beautiful and youthful as he does in the portrait. And that wish is granted to him, leading to his absolute moral corruption.

[@dragonsaxophonist9082]

I actually think that chip is the beast's brother. It wasnt uncommon for royals to die and leave their kids to a trusted servant to be raised. Especially a 2nd or 3rd child because that child has no say on the throne unless big bro dies young

[@ericanight8359]

Okay but why think that? Yes they may have left their kids to a servant, but servants can also have children of their own.

[@victoriaguardino7243]

I agree but I also think that perhaps Mrs.potts was trusted in taking care of Chip because his mom died in childbirth,which would explain why he calls her mama.

[@silverwinter0198]

Didn’t chip have a few brothers too? I don’t remember for sure, but Mrs. Potts said something about his brothers when he was being put to bed in the cabinets.

[@ghostdragon5735]

Beast being a child when he was curse makes sense. Back then they painted kids in images and glass planes older then they normally Are

[@MrBlack0950]

I mean, puberty was usually the gate into adulthood, so he may not have been considered a child in the setting.

[@devilovesdevil]

Yep, though yes I'd agree they didn't see him as a child then at that age. Specially since he is an heir to a throne.

[@amandasmalley1970]

I disagree. Why would a sorceress curse a child and say until a woman falls in love with the monster you are......a child is not ready to hear that let alone be involved with anyone.

[@user-ph8ne1vl8g]

@@amandasmalley1970very valid point. that’s just weird af really lol

[@platinum_noelle]

I think it's actually more likely that if chip and the beast are related, it would be as half-siblings. It isn't that uncommon in history for nobles to sleep with staff, and I feel like the beast would've gone after some of those French maids rather than a near-elderly housekeeper. It could also be that chip isn't mrs.potts' biological child, but rather adopted him from another servant who'd had relations with the beast or his father.

[@thetrendygamer5439]

The third one is crazy they took the “same old” part literally and the curse also could be that the beast and his servants could not age until the spell is broken

[@lulub1433]

As a kid that was what I always assumed, and still do. They are the same age as before the curse. It's the only thing that would make sense imo, pictures don't lie especially stain glass. I don't remember the second movie, but if the story explains he was eleven when it happened, the writers obviously did not watch or care about the details of the first movie and chip well how do you explain that?

[@mysterytheshadowfox9187]

The last theory didn't really make sense, I would've thought that maybe chip was the beast younger brother. By the end of the movie, the beast and chip seems to have that brotherly love. Let's also not forget that big age difference between the two, it's likely the king (the beast's father) had a mistress and had probably knocked her up with chip, it could explain why chip was in the castle and why beast has a soft spot for him

[@thatonerazormain8223]

yeah he probably knocked someone up

[@kichiwas-hargan4775]

But he still never interacted with Chip at the end of the movie.

[@jessicaswinbourn.320]

I thought Chip was Beast's younger half brother, that the king had the affair with one of the maids and covered it up. Not wanting to give up a second son, he had miss Potts look after Chip. That's could explain way Chip looks like Beast.

[@haHA-yt2ph]

My question is in the cupboard chip is seen with his other siblings( and there’s like a hundred of them). Where were they when chip was humanized again??

[@lulub1433]

Yes Added in details like this is nuts- just because it looks cute to have all the sleeping cups, but then who cares where they go later- I do! lol

[@cbgaming7209]

Mrs Potts possibly was running some kinda orphanage if all those cups turned human. Maybe she was raising ghem to be future servers? That would be my guess.

[@nahicorua]

They all transformed back into humans in the cup board and now they're stuck probably??

[@lenax9798]

Maybe they were just not added in. A lot of other things were actually humans but only the main characters were shown in their human form . Maybe these kids were simply sleeping and suddenly woke up on the kitchen floor as humans😂

[@leahwilson9152]

You’re giving the animators way too much credit to be able to put as much detail as a novel into a 90 minute movie

[@tempestshadowheart2073]

I always thought the painting ws of the beast's father as it wasn't uncommon for castles to have portraits of former rulers and children do tend to look like their parents and as for chip my own personal theory is that Mrs Potts had a daughter who was also a servant who got involved with the beast's father giving birth to chip but she died so Mrs Pots was raising her grandson but since chip was at such a young age he wouldn't know that she wasn't his mother so it's possible he could be the beast's half-brother

[@blu3099]

Love this theory

[@DeadhunterThe]

Um...you guys DO know that adoption still existed back then, right?

[@michaeloluwajuyemi4546]

The fact that the curse is in a time loop makes since because in the live 🎥 the enchantress made the village forget the kingdom.

[@StrangeSpark]

In the original story, Belle's family fell on hard times. While her sisters still longed from their lost wealth was shown in the fact that their more expensive dresses are worn and tired.

[@megs8654]

time loop is not always only sci-fi thingy tho. it can exist exactly as spell or curse in fantasy stuff too. sometimes its even its own kind of magic/ability to manipulate and loop time.

[@Hermioneswish]

Those dresses don’t look faded and dingy to me. Seems like the triplets are wearing their best dresses to try and catch Gaston’s attention.

[@krism8335]

They are also aren’t ballgowns they’re dressed like tavern workers

[@biscuitslally6686]

One of the confirmed theories is that Gaston was the one to kill Bambi's mom

[@michaeloluwajuyemi4546]

The blonde girls want to dance for Gaston.

[@Cheddar_Shred]

The blonde girls *rreeeaaalllyy* want to dance for Gaston. 😂

[@Gabychan13]

I think that Chip's the adopted child of Mrs.Potts.

[@ItsMinnowSeason]

Late to things but I'm surprised no one thought maybe just Chips was a secret brother to the Beast considering we don't exactly hear if or when his father died in the original movie- and Beast wouldn't exactly, 11 or 21, find an older woman like Ms.Potts attractive- his older father possibly though- yeah- maybe she wasn't truly as old as she came off as, but was still probably in her early 40s or late 30s when she had Chip tho then again- adoption still existed back then or Chips could've been a servant boy who just grew attached to Ms.Potts as a mother figure as others have said

[@maplesugar853]

That makes much more sense

[@nanemaniac]

The painting is of adult Adam because of a simple error. The animators have admitted that they missed that detail 😅 but the theories are still fun

[@hi.iamhuman.3564]

I think the first one where it was all in her head is a plausible theory but not at all the way Disney presented it. The whole original story of beauty and the beast was to make young women complacent with being in arranged marriages. It was literally written for that. The thing that’s interesting to me is how this came through after Disney stripped it down to its main plot. The whole story plot was so strong that the moral did not change, (or changed very little) even when being deprived of that context. Without the context of the original’s history, it’s really cool that somone found what it was actually intended to do and the darker side of it. Sometimes there’s a misconception that Disney actually WROTE these fairytales. We kinda need to remember what they are and where they came from because there is often a deeper and possibly more disturbing moral behind each of these stories. Even frozen was based loosely on “the snow queen” another fairy tale with darker themes. Wether Ariel never marries the prince and turns into sea foam or belle is just propaganda for complacent housewives, these usually come with warnings, and very important ones too.

[@MaryC861]

I can see the one involving the 3 blonds working. But all the others I think are too far-fetched. Especially the one implying the beast to be a rapist. I mean we are "supposed" to root for this guy to become a better person and adding "that" would not help at all.

[@lenax9798]

When did she say that the beast was a r@p!st?

[@soxpeewee]

The beast wouldn't be a rapist more like the maid and Arnold Schwarzeneggers relationship

[@MaryC861]

@@lenax9798 Near the end of the video she says (in regards to who Chip's father was)"Would the Beast be selfish enough take advantage of his own servants? Yes." So she does imply that she thinks the Beast did something very messed up which lead to having Chip. If you know what I mean.

[@jorgebersabe293]

Implying that the beast was an attempted rapist? Yeah that's Gaston all right.

[@BlueZebra1955]

I did the math when I first saw this movie, and it seemed to me that if the curse lasted 8 or 10 years, then the prince had to be a child when the curse was put upon him. The rose would bloom until his 21st birthday, so how old was he when he answered the door? BTW. If he was so spoiled, why did he answer his own door in the middle of the night? And BTW, castles don't shine.

[@sarahsmith4205]

What if chip was adopted at birth or at least a very young age death after giving birth was very common in that time so what if he just calls her mama because she’s the only mother figure he knows

[@heatherturner2366]

Mrs Potts is old so maybe she is his grandma

[@sarahsmith4205]

heather turner That too

[@zenos02]

Chip could've been a Servant Boy who would work closely with Mrs Potts so many may have thought of them as related and over the years Mrs Potts Motherly Nature may have not only been excluded towards The Beast but all the other Servants in the Castle... Aside from Cogsworth and Dampiere, Mrs Potts holds the most authority in the castle amongst the servants

[@ThePinkDragon]

@@heatherturner2366 The other cups seem to kids too

[@PREPFORIT]

I 100% agree with the 3 harlots idea! But all else is nonsense.

[@lulub1433]

Agreed I don't think it's supposed to be that complicated, it's just a story not made to be over thought. The girls do seem to fit the first theory and Disney's pirate ride also worked with that theme until people started to notice.

[@redranger2716]

I like that WickedBinge agrees that these theories are bullshit

[@coconutshay6487]

In the Twisted Tale of Beauty and the Beast, they explain in better detail on why the portrait looks the way it did. It was a gift from the enchantress that it would show what he’d look like if he wasn’t a beast and it aged with him.

[@JEFFYtv433]

Belle wasn’t kidnapped, she went to the castle to save her father.

[@sogracie3420]

Once she got there though she was held captive so it's the same thing. And if you wanna say she made a deal with the beast to stay there, it was not of her free will, it was an agreement made under duress, exploiting her distress and love for her father, she was never like ''hey! I'm down to stay here with you dude!''

[@DogFlamingoXIII]

I always found it amusing that the Enchantress cursed Beast for judging her by appearances and refusing to help her, when he refused to help her, becasue she could turn out to be some dangerous stranger that you don't want to welcome into your home -- and she was. She cursed him for recognizing her for who she was, which definitely seems more like a her problem than a him problem.

[@user-ph8ne1vl8g]

she’s always been the real villain imo

[@jenniferslavens6692]

with the time loop thing "Every day like the one before" as belle sings at the start of the movie

[@vampybyte7812]

The 3 blondes being prostitutes' actually makes sense as I heard some where that Gaston specifically tells them even after he's married to belle they can continue their rondevue's in a musical adaptation and in decedents He has a son that dresses in all yellow. Possibly a hint He had gotten the one in yellow pregnant before the beast tossed him off the castle. It also was quite common back in those days for men to have trophy wives, which is what gaston wanted belle to be, then mistresses they'd sneak off to see in private. ESPECIALLY in France during that time period, In fact this was a very common practice in Europe. In france women also had lovers / affairs though and it was quite common, While I don't think that was the intention with the original film , later adaptions and hint's defiantly point to this being the case.

[@dellahale2125]

THEY FLIRTED WITH ONE MAN- They aren’t prostitutes

[@luc0o964]

I find that it would make more sense for Mrs. Potts to be Chips' nanny. Now I don't remember every line of the film but I'm sure Chip calls Mrs. Potts mom at some point of the movie. However, I also think that someone who has no parents or someone whose parents don't spend time with them would for sure see their nanny as more of a motherly figure. So I think that Chip could potentially be the beast's younger brother. And maybe there was some drama so that they don't know it or are half brothers or something.

[@laurenhumphrey435]

I think Chip represented the Beast's inner child who was being nurtured by Mrs. Pott...I don't think it was a romantic relationship as she was more of a Motherly figure to all of the characters, even Belle.

[@panthercat38]

It sounds like Chip would be a better "forgotten" sibling leaving no contest to inheritance, or with the Beast/Gaston theory, a child that Belle rejected.

[@corpse_moon]

Not sure if anyone had mentioned this theory yet, but one that came to mind is that the beast is a murderer, in the west wing, alot of furniture was torn and broken, and all of his staff was turned to objects, this could be a stretch since there was already furniture in the castle, but thats just my theory 🤷‍♀️

[@hawkemathew]

my own theory: after maurice gets hit in the head with the log (severe head trauma), he dreams about his daughter & a monster. while Belle is reading to him while he's unconscious. so he incorporates it into his dream. the happy ending for Belle is him finally coming to terms & moving on.

[@natsumeyuna4171]

I don't think the time loop theory is all that plausible. Because if it was an actual timeloop but the villagers don't realize that they are living the same day again and again, there should be no way for them to remember Belle and Maurice. They would have to get to know them again everyday, because they are not part of the memories from before the loop. But they clearly remember them.

[@samaraoliveira3400]

i mean, belle and maurice are the only thing that happends out of the time loop, so maybe they would remember the, because they arent a part of the spell?

[@boz7362]

I always thought beast was cursed AT his 21st Birthday and the castle was under a time stop spell like the original sleeping beauty 🤔🤷‍♀️

[@mad_as_Hat.terish]

Question. Is it possible that we as people like to dig so deep that even some of the wildest and craziest theories and conspiracies begin to make some kind of sense when it's just a simple thing?

[@stephanginther9051]

The Grim fairy tale was a bit darker than the Disney version though a lot deeper. In the original, prince Adam was just as much a victim as Bell (in the original her name was actually Beauty). Basically Adam was NOT cursed for being arrogant and mean like in the movie, he was cursed for spurning the unwanted sexual advances of his former nanny. The elderly and ugly woman that changed his diapers when he was a baby got ideas once he hit his mid teens and was none too happy when he said not a chance. THAT was why Adam was cursed. Turning him into a sort of lizard man. (the live action movie was closer to the original on that one) The lore of the story states that powerful curses must have a way to break them. The curse on Adam was powerful enough to kill him and would do so after a certain amount of time. (I don't remember if the rose played a part in the original or not). The evil fairy would lift the curse if he agreed to marry her or she'd let the curse kill him. As I said there had to be a way to break the curse. A second fairy agreed to help the prince break the curse which had, by design elaborate and strict rules on how to break it. 1. He had to, before the time ran out get a suitable girl to say out loud that she loved him and agreed to marry him. 2. He could not tell this girl who he really was, or anything about the curse. 3. He had to act like he was mentally slow around her at all times. 4. The girl had to be of a royal line. (the girl herself didn't know it, but she was a princess. Her parents were not her real parents which they themselves didn't know. There was an elaborate backstory on how that happened involving the good fairy, which was how _she_ knew about it) The whole thing with Beauty's father getting imprisoned for stealing and her coming and trading herself for his freedom was orchestrated by the good fairy. A bit evil herself there, and Adam took a lot of convincing before he agreed to the plan. Beauty was literally the ONLY girl in the entire kingdom that met the requirements for breaking the curse. The good fairy also found a loophole in the rules he had to follow. He was not allowed to say anything about the curse or the rules while in her presence and had to act like an idiot like I mentioned above. The fairy discovered that the rules could be interpreted as PHYSICALLY in her presence. So the fairy used her magic to allow him to meet her as himself in her dreams. He was still not allowed to tell her about the curse or that he was the same person as the beast but she eventually figured it out.

[@amberarzuaga6426]

With the first one, It seems that the blonde triplets are the bar maids daughters, the bar owner has blond hair and that would explain why they're in the bar all the time.

[@mousey8589]

you had me tell the last one: I don't think beast was that barbaric. Mrs. Pots husband could have died. Resulting in Mrs. Pots brining Chip to work with her, or maybe she was a live-in housekeeper.

[@puppygirlfl]

Right now I’m in a play for Beauty and the Beast. My role is a townsperson/napkin

[@gottathinkupanewone]

In the live-action movie, Mrs. Potts recognized her husband among the villagers who stormed the castle. She and Chip were with him later. He may have avoided being transformed by simply being in town when the curse was cast.

[@nesiahrampersad9790]

I think chip is a child of the beast having a love affair before the curse and at some point chips lost his mom causing the beast to be even more cruel, and take in the fact that children born out marrage are often disowned , I see why mrs potts would take him in and raise him as her own, leave a like if you think my theory is possible ☕

[@i.r.3016]

There's always the "It was all a dream" theory isn't there?

[@hexuz2863]

That would mean Miss Pots had pants off dance off with an 11 year old prince when se was old enough to be his grandmother, so the true villan is Miss Pots.

[@leonorakristinerozalinamll9473]

Lol.

[@rangerfalcon9077]

I have a theory that Chip isn’t the Beast’s son but rather the child of two other servants who died feeling pity for the child Mrs. Potts raised him as her own.

[@MasonPerry7]

Unless the portrait was made recently as one of his latest birthday Gifts in hopes it would cheer him up, and give him hope that the curse will break, but he hated it and out of despair he tore it apart?

[@azureascendant994]

Thoughout the beast is still a prince. That means his father the king could still be around. Living in another castle. It would explain why the country is still functioning. People talk about Chip being the beast's son. Maybe he is the beast's illegitimate brother. Many kings in history had affairs with their maids. If Chip is not Pott's son he is her grandchild. The theory that this is all in Belle's head is spot on. She is unhappy with her repetitive life so she starts living in her head. A day dream of princes, curses and true love. She dreams of a life that a commoner like herself cannot have. These day dreams keep her from ever realising what is important. The reality of her life. Gaston is the reality while the beast is pure fantasy. A hot man in a romance novel.

[@WilliamJulienNkogheOlympio]

In the live action remake, the enchantress is disguised as a poor lady, keeping an eye on the villagers and even saves Maurice. So the enchantress putting the whole village under a curse is plausible. The prostitues theory is an abvious one

[@fetteei5226]

I think that part of the curse is that time froze within the castle, meaning people stayed the same age before they were cursed. The picture of the beast doesn't look 11 years old and Chip is around 7 years old, meaning he had to be born before the curse took place. At the end of the prologue it is said "he would be doomed to remain a beast for all time" suggesting that he can't die if he is to remain a beast forever, which would be his punishment had he failed, and the servants would remain objects forever and couldn't die, which is actually super dark. Not to mention it makes sense considering objects can't age.

[@rangerfalcon9077]

My theory is that Belle is actually schizophrenic and imagines hearing voices and seeing unusual things such as anthropomorphic objects and a beast.

[@ryonhatcher4561]

Out of all the theories in this video, the Prostitute Theory is surprisingly the most accurate. The Time Loop is too confusing and the Beast being a result of Belle's imagination seems too far-fetched in my opinion. As for the Beast being Chip's Father, it's not only unsettling and pedophilic, but very inaccurate. The Beast was 11 before he was cursed and he doesn't have the traits Chip had.

[@PrincessDreamie]

the time loop theory is the most believable. even in the sequel he looks like he would be at least 17 years old. don't know what most ppl have with him being an 11 year old kid. THAT 'THEORY' is the most bonkers

[@maddiesme9650]

Ok so my thinking is that the reason beast grows older but all of the others in the castle don't is because they're all OBJECTS and objects can't grow old because they're not living things, beast only grow older cause he was turned into an animal and animals can grow and eventually die, but objects will never grow old and perish, that's why Chip is still a kid, say he was born at least 7 years before the curse happened, he would know the beast/prince Adam as a kid too, but since the curse happened he never grew up with the beast so technically Chip should be 17 but instead he stays 7🙂

[@candicemonique5927]

I hate that The Beast has been there for decades and never bothered anyone in the village. The moment they found out about him, they convinced themselves that he was vicious, formed an angry mob, broke down his door and attacked him.

[@Germainia07]

tbh that would happen now if we found out that a non human like “beast” is living amongst us

[@user-ph8ne1vl8g]

@@Germainia07ao damn facts though edit: big foot for example lol they stay hidden as much as possible for a reason

[@YuugiArry]

The first film says the beast was only 11. The rose was about to die, which means he was 21 at the end of the film, and in Be Our Guest it's stated they've been waiting around for ten years for someone to break the curse.

[@reginamercado4869]

5:33 The movie mentions that the rose would lose its final petal on the prince's 21st birthday and at some point of the movie, the servants mention they have been objects for 10 years, so the prince was, indeed, 11 when he got cursed.

[@ztellarvibrationz8753]

I think Chip was an orphan, along with the other tea cups. Mrs.Potts probably adopted the children or was the caregiver for them to the point where they considered her to be their mother. I think it could have occurred when Beast's parents were still around, at least his mother, to allow this and even though Beast is selfish, it shows that he still had humanity and kindness within to let Ms. Potts, Chip, and others to stay with him before the curse happened. Also, I kind of want to ignore the fact the Beast in Disney was illiterate when he had a huge library in his disposal. That's what I at least liked in the live action that the Beast was well read. He just chose to hide it out of fear of vulnerability of knowing too much about things being used against him. Rest of the live action was awful honestly and they really made Beast a prude instead of actually being....you know...the Beast who didn't mature and was stunted for years. And took away Maurice as the inventor who taught Belle what she knows because he is her father, etc. I could go on but yeah. My thoughts on it though and Beauty and The Beast is one of my favorite fairytales and the music for it in Disney Animated version and Broadway was and is still immaculate.

[@user-po9iy3pk2y]

About the last theory: in the movie they said something about the cursed being made 10 years prior and the beast being 21 which makes him 11 yo when being cursed (I guess the sequel just straight out said it) so I doubt an 11 years old would willingly sleep with an old lady and therefore a more probable option is that she raped him. Now the theory is a 1000 times creepier. Assuming she could physically get pregnant and he could physically get her pregnant.

[@ItsMinnowSeason]

theres also the possibility that maybe Chips is just his secret brother- it makes more sense an older man would be interested in an older woman instead than it being little beast or even young adult beast interested in her-

[@user-po9iy3pk2y]

@@ItsMinnowSeason wow this thing was dark I completely forgot this video existed disney is evil don't underestimate whatever horrifying thing they can come up with

[@user-po9iy3pk2y]

@@ItsMinnowSeason but also I stand by that it wouldn't make sense to make thia kind of theory about an 11 years old and mayeb you're right I don't remmebr the theory that we'll I do vaguely remember this video but i read my comment

[@azureascendant994]

Chip could also be the Beast's illegitimate half brother.

[@dabbyabb]

Yeah if he was 11 and got Mrs Potts pregnant, she's more likely the rapist. Sure, there's a power imbalance, but nobody would go that far just because an 11yo said so, king or otherwise, unless they were sick in the head.

[@renamon5658]

Dark Theories of the addams (sorry)family

[@hazyanimal9816]

I have a theory that the forest wolves were knights who protected the castle. They still fight intruders, and have slowly lost their humanity

[@smashit56]

That wouldn't make sense to enchanted an 11 year old boy just because he had bad behavior, what ever happened to the beasts parents anyway. That's probably why he was acting that way, since it appears that his servants were raising him.

[@LethalLaurie]

That was one of the things I really liked about the recent live action film - that they went into the Prince's childhood and upbringing as an explanation for WHY he was spoiled and cruel. Nobody's truly evil just for the sake of being evil, they're shaped by their experiences and the people they've looked to.

[@smashit56]

@@LethalLaurie In the live action did it talk about what happened to his parents or how old he was when he was enchanted?

[@LethalLaurie]

@@smashit56 It simply showed that the mother passed away when he was still a young boy, at which point his cruel and callous father took over raising him from there. It can also be hypothesized that his mother passed from the plague, since he immediately recognized the doctor's mask in Belle's childhood home.

[@LethalLaurie]

@@smashit56 As for how old he was in the live action version when he was cursed, I'm not sure of the specific age but the prologue portrayed him as already an adult.

[@tiffanicurtis3324]

Okay, but what about all the other tea cups that Mrs. Potts called Chips brothers and sisters. Maybe she took in orphans, but Chip is just the young so the one that needs most of her attention.

[@nicolebowman8509]

The Beast/prince, Gaston and chip all have vivid blue eyes, it would make anyone wonder if the beast is his father or that Belle's interpretation of Gaston as a monster in to question.

[@jorgebersabe293]

In the case of Beast and Gaston, it enhances their status as counterparts of each other: The Beast is everything Gaston likes about himself and Gaston is everything the Beast despises about himself.

[@Katherineparker287]

The story doesn’t take place in the 19th century it takes place in the 17th century

[@morethanamess1980]

Wonder how Mrs Potts had THAT many teacup babies tbh 🤔

[@vampirecaptain7676]

I like the loop theory as it doesn't make it seem like she cursed an 11-year old child for no apparent reason who should have answered his own door.

[@soxpeewee]

What kind of person curses an 11 year old for refusing to let a creepy stranger inside?

[@ShainaCilimberg]

A creepy person.

[@halonostalgiatheater7440]

Almost all of these theories are flat out insane

[@MileyonDisney]

All of these things you mention apply only to the 1991 Disney version. Read the book. But of all the different illustrations and movie versions I've seen, 1991 Belle is by far the most-beautiful. The sequel's enchantress looks a lot like Synergy, from "Jem and the Holograms".

[@claudiaiovanovici7569]

These are some wild theories. The craziest of which is that Belle dreamt the whole thing to escape from her marriage with Gaston. The metaphors are pretty clear: the handsome guy that every woman pines for, you know, the one that any girl in her right mind would be crazy about? That's the true beast, the one you don't want to marry. No, get yourself an ugly but rich one, and you will see that beneath the ugly appearance of "beast" lies a gentle man who will take care of you for the rest of your days. The perfect fairy tale for parents to deal with a young woman who is about to face an arranged marriage with an old man and who is inlove with some "Gaston" out there.

[@shihalya]

As a kid I thought the enchantress is belle s mum,….. and that they tried to find her and that is why belle and her dad moved to that village

[@fashionstyle8948]

In the live version of Beauty and the Beast you see Mr. Potts

[@firinnesheridan4722]

Regular show: Good to Evil I NEED it!!!! Please!!!!😭😭😭

[@WickedBinge]

We're doing a second draft of the script this week :)

[@jamestotman8672]

One thing that was brought up, that now makes me wonder is the beast's inability to read. Being raised as a noble he would have some education, reading and language being 2 of the subjects. It would have been different if he took the stance of not liking to read.

[@sweetypsycho4895]

Prove to Gaston theory: In the beginning of the movie their clothes look the same, and they have the same eye colour

[@jorgebersabe293]

The theory has a point if you know that Gaston is basically Beast's dark mirror, representing the kind of person he would have turned into if he was never cursed.

[@MelodySnowflakeVA]

I think the beast ages but the inanimate objects don't, after all, inanimate objects don't have living bodies that are capable of ageing even though they are sentient

[@wisteria3032]

do you think the beast - assuming he was old enough - was the kind of person who would "take advantage" of his staff before the curse? yes. surely. and he wouldn't even have known he was doing something wrong. Do you think the beast - a young and charming prince used to have everything he wanted - would have forced himself on mrs Potts when he had servants like the dust girl? seriously?

[@keiroty7187]

The time loop theory sounds plausible with the magic

[@XxCybeRenxX]

The blondes on the thumbnail straight up look like Jasmine, Belle, and Ariel

[@screenname8267]

As to the Chip's dad theory... they ignore that the Beast's personality could easily have been learned from his father, who would have easily been of age to take advantage of Mrs Potts 10 years prior. However, this ignores the "brothers and sisters" that we never see as humans, who appear just as big as Chip does, making the "they were adopted by Mrs Potts when they were sent by poor families to work in the castle" theory more credible.

[@orleansartist6095]

Lumiere could be Chips father. And Miss Potts could be the grandmother. Lumiere is a player.

[@FanGirl0721]

The beast was 11 because it was 10 years before Belle came to the castle. We learn in the remastered story that he was cursed as a child. And the Mrs. Potts one is just too weird.

[@Atriviality]

She wasn't kidnapped. Her father was imprisoned for intruding in the Royal Palace and she VOLUNTEERED to take his place.

[@asherikamichaela8425]

I always figured Chip was adopted. 🤷‍♀️

[@jessicaperry7277]

I saw a convincing sequel somewhere that after the curse was lifted, mrs Potts and chip rejoined their husband/father who lived in the village and had gone crazy looking for “something important I’ve forgotten”