Dark Bramble Explained

[@glidershower]

It's kinda sad the Nomai, being space goats, got stuck and died in Dark Bramble, because brambles kill sheep and small cattle by getting them entangled in real life.

[@TheLoreExplorer]

hmmm. i didnt know that. interesting. This whole game is terribly sad, yet strangely hopeful.

[@Beardieboi173]

QUANTUM ENTANGLEMENT!??!?!??

[@justusP9101]

@@Beardieboi173Outer Wilds reference!!1!!1!!1!1!

[@vkmishra364]

Well, why would you want to chop up a plant, when it's gonna die anyways in the next 22 minutes?

[@TheLoreExplorer]

Lets just say it was the first loop and i didnt know the sun would explode lol. I was looking at "the big picture".

[@physical_insanity]

Because using baby groot as firewood to cook baby Yoda as bait to lure the Anglerfish away from the eggs wouldn't generate enough heat. I want my multi-metre long ebi sushi, and I want it now.

[@Nyctotope]

And then Ice-Age baby used to distract the Anglerfish from "baby Yoda" and "baby Groot".

[@loganhooliean369]

Good point plus it would just burn

[@pretzelbomb6105]

The first time I entered Dark Bramble, I parked my ship outside so I could maneuver easily in a space that small. I’m not sure why I didn’t leave and get my ship after the first chamber, but I didn’t. Got eaten three chambers in.

[@TheLoreExplorer]

ooooof. I thought you were safe with your jetpack because it wasnt as loud. RIP. lol

[@_Iscream]

@@TheLoreExplorer only within 20 m

[@lederp1182]

Yeeeah boi covering the spookiest of places, and never thought there would be an Easter egg in the game

[@TheLoreExplorer]

There is a few different easter eggs. I have a couple on my channel! search the figs backer satellite. And then "outer wilds secret during end scene". Many people also consider going through the atp an easter egg. but i think thats integral to the game!

[@lederp1182]

@@TheLoreExplorer I was able to get the satellite but not the others just yet. But I'll look for them. :3

[@TheLoreExplorer]

@@lederp1182 For most of them i have tutorials on how to find them. I think its best not only to show the easter egg. but then let the viewer experience it for themselves!

[@edison1125]

I just avoid that place

[@FidgetTheMidget8P]

My first experience w bramble I didn't know you were supposed to go inside so I was just running around jumping from ice chunk to ice chunk

[@TheLoreExplorer]

makes sense. the main node is sorta of small looking. you can go down through the cracks in one of the ice chunks to find a jellyfish! the one feldspar points us to!

[@FidgetTheMidget8P]

@@TheLoreExplorer Yeah! I actually didn't know about it until I did see a crack I could go in! Without that I wouldn't have found the center of the universe

[@TheLoreExplorer]

Holy crap. Thats a pretty good story. lol. thats awesome.

[@pretzelbomb6105]

On my first journey into Dark Bramble, I parked my ship outside because I didn’t think it would fit. I was halfway through deciding to turn around and go get it when the anglerfish got to me. It was a long while before I set foot in there again.

[@florianbrill3613]

@@pretzelbomb6105 my first time I got in Bramble was with the ship but I forgot that there were the anglerfish and got swallowed up from behind I almost got a heartattack

[@nathanrhodes2413]

My theory is that dark bramble doesn't get bigger through each seed but that you get smaller. that's why the angler fish in the museum is small. You might think that's not true because the fish stay the same size through each seed but I think the further you get in dark bramble the younger the fish are that's why the angler fish eggs are in the middle of dark bramble.

[@orangeninjaza7955]

Nathan Rhodes that is an awesome theory and it also makes sense

[@TheLoreExplorer]

Besides the giant angler skeleton on ember twin.

[@venom2themax281]

If you get smaller then the anglers could get larger when going the otherway which would allow for the fish on ember

[@TheLoreExplorer]

@@venom2themax281 but then the tiny one in the museum doesnt make sense.

[@venom2themax281]

The Lore Explorer fair

[@numbers3268]

I’m convinced it’s some sort of hyperbolic space, and the seeds are of like horospheres (like a normal sphere, but the center is at infinity so you can infinitely nest more horospheres inside). Thus, there’s an effect of the space “expanding” as you go through: that’s exactly what’s happening.

[@SysFan808]

but then how would you have a seed inside itself? (i was going to say to take it out, but that would require traveling infinity twice)

[@Me-wx1mt]

someone found a way to turn off the fog (a mod probably) and dark bramble looks tiny lol. the walls are pretty close to the player and it's all the wood-like brambles. it was pretty creepy looking. I also think that the anglerfish produce the fog, since the small anglerfish tank at timber hearth has fog in it.

[@shadedfalcon]

I LOVE the way Dark Bramble works in the final product compared to the alpha, as it’s actually possible to explore the few important locations, as well as the fact that the lights present a risk as they are both your way forward and a possible danger. But I actually thought the Alpha’s version of Dark Bramble was scarier. The Angler Fish we’re everywhere and just out in the open, and you could never really tell how far you were from them. If you got caught, it was near-impossible to escape as you’ll likely bump into a vine or lose which way you’re going. This discouraged exploration and made it almost impossible to navigate, and so a much prefer the final version. But I still think the alpha was scarier.

[@insertnamehere8099]

1.6 meters from pole to pole? *wow, I knew the game was a small scale, but that’s absurd!*

[@deus9873]

I dont know why but I had a nightmare about this damn planet it makes sense since it was a nightmare to find the vessel like bro I couldnt see anything and then I see a big ass angler fish charging towards me

[@TheLoreExplorer]

I think the idea of an interstellar plant that destroys planets is neat. but also, yes. Nightmare fuel for sure.

[@CausticFoil]

I had the opposite. I expected to have nightmares on Angler Fish but instead had a dream where I was flying through Dark Bramble with rocket launchers and machine guns on my space ship. Shredded through the Angler Fish with ease.

[@lamboking8able]

I think it came from the eye of the universe. quantum plant where you can be at more than one place at a time until observed. also timber hearth doesn't need to worry about burning it cuz the sun is going to do it in about 22 min

[@Nyctotope]

Kean4711 DUB then how come Dark Bramble doesn't teleport when you look away?

[@lamboking8able]

@@Nyctotope well maybe only the seed is from dark bramble and the inside has the eye of the universe properties not the outside. I mean if you want me to come up with a more in depth theory I can but thats a quick one while I'm at work lol

[@xebatansis]

Concerning the skeleton on Ember Twin: Doesn' t the museum on Timber Hearth speculate that the Angler Fish can pretty much survive in space? Once their colony gets big enough, couldn' t they just "swim" out and look for prey?

[@TheLoreExplorer]

sure. They could survive the flight. but that wouldnt explain how it got underground. in a cave system. with no exits big enough for it.

[@Woodledude]

​@@TheLoreExplorer Feel like a lot of people overlook the fact that Ember Twin (and Ash Twin) are made of sedimentary rock - Which is basically a bunch of sand squished together so hard that it starts being a rock. Angler gets pulled in to the gravity well by accident, has no means of escaping the surface of the planet, starves to death at some point, gets buried by sand, sand turns into rock above it. Caves get carved out by [unknown]. Nomai arrive. We don't really know how the Hourglass Twins formed, except for the obvious one - That huge equatorial canyon on Ember Twin clearly got cut by the sand falling back and forth. Presumably, though, the Twins had water (or another liquid) on them at one point, and said water has since evaporated away. We actually do have at least one instance of a "dry lakebed" being called such, so this supposition is made in canon as well. Speaking of canon, my headcanon is that before sand got passed between the twins, it was water (and maybe some sand in said water). Just imagine that. That would be awesome.

[@maboi0007]

I have a theory about dark bramble, being that it was made by the Ewlk, due to the signal blocker's effect being visualized by a throny vines. And one may wonder how you could make a signal older than the universe blocked, and to do so the Ewlk made a bigger on the inside vine trap, dark bramble. The fact it expanded out of another planet may be a result of the signal blocker having lost connection with the stranger, and without any control went haywire and that's how dark bramble arrived to the ice planet. It also would explain how the nomai was stuck inside dark bramble, because it was applied over the eye at first, don't forget the coordinates of the eye are the same between each loop, meaning the eye doesn't move, furthermore the vessel gets out of the bramble too, and doesn't fall back into it. Because again, the blocker was non-functional by the time we arrive! This theory keeps building stronger and stronger the more you put other aspects into context.

[@insertnamehere8099]

I don’t think the original 5th planet would have been the largest, but it certainly would have been quite large. Perhaps the same size of giants deep (1km), or at least around 800m I suppose if you measured the curvature of the largest pieces suspended around bramble, (the one that has the most pieces clustered together) you could get an approximate size

[@loxxedinabox]

I think I have a rough estimate, and if not a very rough estimate. I think the radius of the ice planet would’ve been around 150m, so about the size of Ember Twin. Maybe a little bigger, maybe a little smaller, not completely sure but it’s around that. Since the seed is 200m in radius it makes sense that the planet would’ve shattered. If someone’s already calculated this I wouldn’t be surprised but I wasted a bit too much time on it.

[@astrosimon4216]

I now have a new appreciation for the scariest plan(e)t in the game!

[@TheLoreExplorer]

Ayyye! That means a lot to me! I was hoping I could sway a few people!

[@Nyctotope]

I think Brittle Hollow is the scariest "plan(e)t" because of the black hole

[@TheLoreExplorer]

Have you fallen in it yet?

[@Nyctotope]

Yes I have but I just think that it is scary looking down at the black hole but for some reason Dark Bramble isn't that scary to me

[@pardonmyfrench4760]

Ahh...i seed what you did there.

[@hunkulus]

If we assume that: The eye is the origin of an ever rebirthing universe the sattelite thing is a sign that humanity inhabited the universe right before the heartians the easter egg node is lore then it could be possible that the bramble not only exists in our current universe linking space but also across some previous linking time, maybe even independent from the universe just like the eye

[@casedistorted]

Going into Feldspar's Node with the Light Bramble mod is super creepy and dark. Though it seems with normal fog on it's bright and lit up... weird.

[@TheSaigoon]

Hopefully the new DLC will explain more! Dark Bramble is definetly an enigma.

[@Hobomice]

The Angler Fish Are Most Likely Am Invasive Speiecs To Dark Bramble Because In The Egg Room You Can See Lots Of Vines Growing Toward The Eggs. The Anglers Most Likely Were Native To The 5th Planet Like The Jelly Fish And The Fossile On Ember Twin Got There When The 5th Planet Broke Apart Similar To The Islands On Giants Deep.

[@bicnicky]

You should go through the vine where Feldspar's ship is (the one with the Jellyfish) and explore that area. It's massive and unlike any other part of dark bramble

[@TheLoreExplorer]

Interestingly, that area is outside of bramble! If you look up at the right place you can see your just beneath the ice at the south pole. yesterday while exploring I found what looks like a blocked off vine portal. but i havent found much else there!

[@SysFan808]

@@TheLoreExplorer shoot the scout in there? or is it so obstructed that you can't get it in?

[@TheLoreExplorer]

What? I’m saying if you find the jellyfish on bramble. And look up. You’re outside of bramble. The portal in the vine near feldspar leads you outside

[@SysFan808]

@@TheLoreExplorer i meant the "blocked off vine portal"

[@Eric_._]

The creature scared the f*ck out of me cause I woke it by shooting a scout drone when it was near me😅

[@mihaismoleac7856]

Imagine if in real life scientists will find a plant planet with sonething glowing at its core

[@kyllPhyll]

If there was 2 dark brambles are the in the same pocket dimension? There’s no point to this question don’t look

[@TheLoreExplorer]

Id say yes and no. it depends how you look at it. theyd both sort of need to be in a pocket dimension. but theyd be their own separate dimension inside of this other one. i think anyway lol

[@tori9365]

Think of black holes. There's billions in the universe but they all pull gravity inwards to an "infinite" amount.. it's just too hard to try and reason such things with our brain capacity. All we have are theories and that's it. Your guess is as good as mine. Dark Bramble is kind of on that same spectrum.. it's reason is beyond our cognitive abilities. Just have to accept it's existence and function and not try too hard to find a way or reason how/why it works

[@paulogonzalez4809]

I remember the first time I went to dark bramble. Entering full throttle in one of the seeds, just to land inside the monster fish mouth wide open. Was a hell of a scare jump

[@funnylaughed7423]

"I don't think this leaves no chance for timber" The sun explodes in 20 minutes. Don't think it matters much.

[@AdrianArmbruster]

It kind of reminds me of that house from House of Leaves, actually.

[@johnver9245]

The dead human scene reminds me of "Remnant from the Ashes" universe :P

[@voldy3565]

A lovely ten minute video on lovecraftian botany.

[@quantumblauthor7300]

I have a sneaking, baseless suspicion that it might have come from a freak interaction between ghost matter and quantum material.

[@TheLoreExplorer]

It was there before the interloper even got there

[@quantumblauthor7300]

@@TheLoreExplorer damn that's right, I guess it's just like that

[@Unrellius]

@@TheLoreExplorer I guess that means Ghost Matter can't get into Dark Bramble, right? Since all the fish are alive.

[@reverbedash9282]

I was exploring inside the seeds of bramble and i kept going inside and inside...and i reached a point of glitch where there were plant vines but i couldn't land on them and i was falling into the space in between. There were more holes to go through but i am not sure if it was entirely possible because the animations in that area had started to glitch out.

[@TheLoreExplorer]

sounds like collision just got shut off somehow. Its neat though. lore wise brambles vines almost all contain some portal to some other location. but we cant get to them since they are inside the vines.

[@kiwisareoranges6717]

literally how and why dont you have more subs???

[@TheLoreExplorer]

Not sure bud. Thanks for your kind words. But hopefully I just gained another one with you! I hope to see you around!!

[@Me-wx1mt]

I think that outer wilds takes place in the past. kind of like how star wars is "a long time ago in a galaxy far away" I think outer wilds takes place during medieval times. that explains the Elsinore reference.

[@TheLoreExplorer]

Hmm. Did you happen to notice that literally every star in the universe is exploding by the time we reach the eye? The universe is literally at its end. The eye straight up tells us this. So if anything, itd take place in the far future. But really that doesnt much matter. A species could have just started and reached "medieval" times. In other words it doesnt really need explained.

[@karmageddon9047]

But- i wonder about the prior planet before the bramble destroyed it- Why it had the same species of life on it that was on Giants Deep? Why would a completely separate planet have the same life as another planet? What was the planet like before? And if the Jellyfish originated from Dark Bramble[Pre-Bramble]- why and how are they surviving on Giants deep? And how are they so well adapted to its core?

[@TheLoreExplorer]

The jellyfish were frozen in the outer layer of an icy planet. As the planet exploded from brambles seed. the outer layer got thrown off. Leaving what is essentially frozen fully intact jelly specimens flying around in space. Giants deep, being so big, gravitationally tugged some pieces into its atmos and ultimately into the ocean. This thawed some of them out and they took up life on their new home. And they seem to just naturally be insulated. Maybe because they are thick blubbery things.

[@captncuddlybear9404]

Luckily (or unluckily, however you want to look at it) for the Hearthians, they never had to deal with the Dark Bramble Seed on Timber Hearth.

[@lotus7781]

Oops! All bramble

[@FidgetTheMidget8P]

Bro finally! I can't wait to get out of class and watch this

[@SolDizZo]

We can infer a few more things on the timeline here thanks to the Nomai and the Stranger. When the Stranger arrived the ice planet was still whole! Perhaps the seed was still growing then. Within a few decades, the passionate events on the Stranger unfold, and the Nomai receive the signal of the Eye, calling them to this universe. We know that the Nomai were killed 281,042 years ago, but they lived on this solar system for at least several centuries based on their average lifespan and Solanum's documentation. Therefore the ice planet was intact roughly 282,000 years ago. Now, here's the reason why this timeline truly clicks for me. What if all aquatic life in this system originated from the ice planet? We already know about the jellyfish and the anglerfish... but what about the "Hearthians?" The early stage of evolution this frog species were in while being totally alone on Timber Hearth suggests they were deposited there by the shard that smacked the Attlerock! This aligns perfectly with the Nomai's arrival.

[@GeassEnabler]

Damn didn't know about that Easter egg. Kinda nuts that it's on some place where humans were.

[@TheLoreExplorer]

Yeah. It being connected to elsinore castle is interested. Have you seen the figs backer satellite as well?

[@GeassEnabler]

@@TheLoreExplorer I didn't, no. What is Elsinore Castle?

[@TheLoreExplorer]

Elsinore references a game created by the art director of outer wilds that released at the same time. The two seem to be connected in some way. or its just a nice nod to elsinore. As for the fig backer satellite. Its a human made satellite we can find in the outer wilds solar system. Its pretty neat.

[@agernerfal]

What seed is that, and how do you get to it, that’s a spooky image. Also I was reading comments (I think it was on the dark bramble soundtrack) and someone said the core of the fifth planet was in dark bramble. Don’t know if this is true

[@TheLoreExplorer]

I put out a video titled "how to find dark brambles easter egg". That should help you find it easier than written directions. I have seen big bits of ice floating around in bramble. but i dont think the original core is still there. Though its super heard to explore there due to fog!

[@seantaggart7382]

@@TheLoreExplorer actually it is there just its by the third pod

[@thechrisgrice]

1.6m pole to pole? Pretty sure that can fit in my kitchen.

[@TheLoreExplorer]

Yeah. I went out to all the planets and left a probe at its pole. then went to the other and read the measurements. I wonder how much water youd need to give it?

[@thechrisgrice]

@@TheLoreExplorer Read again what you said. 1.6m - One point six meters.

[@TheLoreExplorer]

@@thechrisgrice common enough mistake. My reddit post has it correctly pinned in km.

[@purplenanite]

@@TheLoreExplorer I have tried to catalog the radii of each of the planets along with other orbital characteristics that you might find useful. www.reddit.com/r/outerwilds/comments/hmrfue/hearthian_solar_system_stats_radius_of_object/

[@LastNomai0]

There's only one thing I don't quite understand. After the explosion of the interloper core which wiped out all life in the solar system except water species, I assume that anglerfishes live in water. But in that case how are they able to live inside of dark bramble?

[@TheLoreExplorer]

well, at the time of explosion anglers already lived in bramble. So for whatever reason bramble just wasnt affected(just like all the other plants). Though its still unclear how they adapted to living in bramble. Im guessing its due to the low oxygen levels of the ocean at deep levels. and high pressures allow angler fish to live somewhere pretty similar, just without actual liquid.

[@floraplatt5014]

I feel like dark bramble was born from some kind of fumble over ‘interdimensional plant/planet’ and they just went with it

[@TheLoreExplorer]

Ill be honest. I dont know the difference between the different kind of dimensions. But from my understanding dark bramble is a take on relative dimensions. A take on a small amount of space holding a larger one inside of it. Almost like the tardis from doctor who. Its also sort of taken from another game. The game elsinore has a story relating to something that looks very similar to bramble.(and the writer of that game was the art director of outer wilds) And this thing allows people who go through it to visit "other worlds". Hope that helps you with the theory!

[@floraplatt5014]

@@TheLoreExplorer oh that’s interesting! Yeah the tardis thing does make a lot of sense. I wonder if there is some connection with a ‘mother bramble’ like you mentioned the orb in the Easter egg, I’m not sure it would be possible to jump to it from dark bramble itself though?

[@TheLoreExplorer]

I think they are connected! either by things like the small easter egg seed inside.( Which i may have found out about after this video.)I feel like bramble is likely connected to all bramble plants, just through portals that are inside the vines. Like the one we find to enter near the jellyfish! I think most of them are connected since we see that the seed dark bramble shot out is still connected to dark bramble even thought its on timber.

[@floraplatt5014]

@@TheLoreExplorer would have been so cool if there was a seed we could actually enter and go to other brambles!

[@floraplatt5014]

Although I suppose that requires building whole universes around them

[@heckbrother8242]

I'm pretty sure the kids just crawled through the window

[@FidgetTheMidget8P]

So do you think we can optimize the bramble seeds for travel between systems?

[@FidgetTheMidget8P]

Also what the hell is the bubbly thing that makes the red glow?

[@TheLoreExplorer]

we probably could find these portals within bramble if they exist. And we could most likely use them. but if our ship cant fit through there wouldn't be much of a point other than just seeing a few new things. The red bubbly things are anglerfish eggs. which is why so many anglers are in that node!

[@Bionicbutter43]

@@FidgetTheMidget8P those are anglerfish eggs!

[@LacyLemur]

So the fifth planet kinda sacrificed itself for the solar system?

[@TheLoreExplorer]

yeah. sort of like how jupiter protects the inner solar system from asteroids and what not.

[@MaxLebled]

Throughout the galaxy's abandoned Nomai settlements, we can see little boxes that have burst open from the inside, by a vine that looks very much like something from Dark Bramble. What do you make of this?

[@TheLoreExplorer]

Im not sure what youre talking about. Do you you mean the little broken cube things we find? I dont see any vines coming out of them, though at the correct angle the edge sort of looks like a vine. Or are you talking about the actual Nomai planters?

[@feliciapino29]

it reminds me of when in futurama they made a box containing the universe

[@jackalbeam2532]

I've been looking for an explanation for the Dark Bramble for so long.

[@ZephyrDaCrow]

I was so confused at first as to why the signals were being weird when I entered, I figured that the glowy seeds I was entering were just massive, but I exited the ship and saw hoe small the they are and went through it. That’s when I realized something was afoot.

[@TheLoreExplorer]

Something was afoot indeed lol

[@chrismarkbicknell]

Bigger on the inside.... .... Timelord gardening.

[@TheLoreExplorer]

I cant believe i missed this comment. Theyd totally probably have them in in picturesque things like the time lord paintings. except itd be miles and miles of gardens lol

[@tylersage9566]

soooo... if the various "rooms" inside dark bramble are other plants that ate other planets across the galaxy, why do we always exit to ours when we leave? Why wouldn't it take us to the others? Not sure that conceptually that makes much sense.

[@TheLoreExplorer]

I dont think you understand. The various "rooms" arent other plants. Thats all inside our bramble. And they arent rooms or whatevs. They are actually other dimensions entirely. The other bramble plants are only connected via the portals inside the vines. Like the one we find near the jellyfish which leads us inside. So in short. We simply dont have access to the portals that would lead us elsewhere. We find an easter egg in dark bramble that is reffering to another game. Where the inhabitants would use a vine like looking "portal to other worlds". The artist for that game is lead artist for outer wilds. Just because we dont have access to them as a player doesnt mean they arent there. And this easter egg does sort or prove we dont "always exit ours". Our scout exits to another solar system entirely. And we would too if we could fit in the seed. But sadly, only crashing our ship through the vines(like feldspar did) or getting in some other way will give us access to them. Which isnt an option in game. But they are definitively there Simply put. Bramble is a presentation of relative dimensions and how they can fit into each other and even themselves. And how they can all lead to eachother , and again, even themselves. This is literally just info from the game presented to you in a video format. And its a pretty well known concept. For example. Doctor Whos TARDIS is an acronym which means "Time And Relative Dimensions In Space". And its "bigger on the inside". But I dont disagree. It doesnt make much sense. Because our senses would be so confused in such a place. Our senses werent designed to be in or understand such a place. So it makes "sense" that it doesnt make sense to you.

[@eggsnbroccoli5367]

How do you not have more subs

[@rawreviewsandreactions6434]

The seed grew from an incredible small scale somehow. Perhaps explaining the popping out of no where

[@TheLoreExplorer]

Are you talking about the original seed or the one on timber?

[@rawreviewsandreactions6434]

The og seed perhaps 🤔 the timber seed flew through space to its destination was in the text wasn’t it? And same with bramble I honestly don’t remember . Ima have to watch more of ur videos I guess 👍🙏🔥

[@TheLoreExplorer]

@@rawreviewsandreactions6434 Interestingly someone does say that the original seed sort of just appeared at the planets core. Its possible it makes its entrance into the solar system in other ways but tbh Im pretty sure it just flew there like the timber hearth seed did.

[@Arthus850]

One thing I don’t get about the anglerfish is if they’re naturally blind, why do they have eyes? Most naturally blind creatures don’t have eyes.

[@hurlyburlywa6185]

Probably to make you think they aren’t blind when you first go through so you have to figure it out, idk if there is a lore reason tho

[@noidontlikeyou1]

Well The reason is that the angler fish had eyes because they originated in a different place, and that place got consumed by the bramble. so when they decided to live in the bramble they had no use for their eyes anymore

[@JayfReal]

Bramblestar lore

[@DylanLacey-q5y]

I highly doubt dark bramble was an ice planet bc how tf are there jellyfish? I think it was a water planet like GD and when bramble broke it, it lost its atmosphere and froze

[@TheLoreExplorer]

icy planets and moons mostly have under ice oceans on them. Just because the surface is frozen doesnt mean its frozen all the way through. Im not sure if youve played it but the dlc basically confirms it was an icy planet. Im not sure why you think it wasnt icy. But there are more than 1xindication that it was

[@DylanLacey-q5y]

@@TheLoreExplorer I was ignorant when making that comment and I take back that statement I didn’t think of things like underwater currents or a molten core that would allow for an under the ice ocean no I have not played the dlc but I did beat the game also thanks for replying on an older video a lot of creators don’t do that loving your content btw especially w dark bramble

[@TheLoreExplorer]

@user-qy3oj7qx7w you’re welcome bud. I try to respond to all the comments I can. I’m glad you’re enjoying the content! I thought you may have not played the dlc because dark bramble is shown in the past and it’s pretty clear that it’s ice!

[@koopaking6148]

I don't hate dark bramble as much as I just fear it immensely... for several reasons...

[@physical_insanity]

Is the Dark Bramble 4 dimensional in nature? I'm not the most well-versed in the different dimensions in regards to literature, but I was thinking it would have been 5 dimensional (or 6, if 5 is the incorrect one). 4D relates to time, and 5D relates to alternate, parallel universe/dimensions, doesn't it?

[@TheLoreExplorer]

Im actually just as lost as you on this one. I have no idea about this. All I know is Feldspar mentions both extra and higher dimensions.

[@physical_insanity]

@@TheLoreExplorer Well, whatever dimension it could be, it still makes sense (somewhat, I struggle with higher dimensional stuff beyond the 5th). When I first went to the bramble, one of my first thoughts was that it had to be something similar to a dirac sea, which I assume you know what that is, just less about being an infinte sea of negative energy and more to being an infinite vacuum. Obviously, it's not an infinite space, at least, I think, though there could be the possibility that it is.

[@TheLoreExplorer]

Im not sure itd be infinite. but i do think it connects to its sisters and stretches on and on. I actually dont know what the dirac sea is. Ive always used the doctor who explanation. They are just the same space but different relative dimensions. So you can fit one thats relatively small to you, into one thats bigger relatively to you, even though relative to a 3rd observer they are the same size. No real added dimensions needed besides the dorrway between the two. but again. Its way above my head. Im fit to handle 4d. Id like to keep it that way lol. though some modern day scientist say there are likely around 8 or 9 at least.

[@physical_insanity]

@@TheLoreExplorer Oh no, you don't know what a Dirac sea is? Although, I guess that's understandable since you probably don't watch anime and have never even heard of "that son of a bitch" Hideaki Anno's magnum opus "the boy who would not get in the robot & other funny stories you can tell yourself" so your chances of hearing about the theory are limited. To be brief, a Dirac sea is a model of a vacuum as a sea of infinite negative energy particles, proposed by Paul Dirac in 1930, so you know it's old. It was first postulated to explain the anomalous negative-energy quantum states predicted by the Dirac equation for relativistic electrons (I just ripped this sentence from wikipedia, don't bully please), and while it's since been displaced by quantum field theory, they're both at least mathematically possible. I would wager that the dark bramble might at least be capable of something like this, or at least be similar in concept to this. It's an old theory of mine that the Dark Bramble was like this, since I was under the impression that it'd be infinite, since my early trips of me going inside took so long for me to drift to Feldspar (as I always followed the music from day 1) that I would just get the supernova happen not long after I arrived. I'm not much of a fan of Doctor Who anymore, not since Matt Smith became the Doctor and the writing went to shit, so I only just understand the model you were going with. Still, it makes some sense and is probably the best model atm.

[@TheLoreExplorer]

I agree. Writing went to hell in a hand basket. but the analogy fits I think. Though, space is infinite on its own. So Im still not sure how to dirac sea relates to bramble. Ive watched some anime though. just not as much as a normal fan would claim to have watched. Ive actually dabbled with the idea of doing a one piece lore series. As its one of the other stories I know as well as I know outer wilds.

[@DeathlyDiJ]

1.6 meters fits in my kitched easily

[@TheLoreExplorer]

yeah. some days I wish I wasnt an american. Its the easiest conversion and my dumbass still have problems converting km to m's and vice versa.

[@gionaves]

All I think when i hear it did not originate in our solar system is: Lavos.

[@pyrefly7575]

I always thought the angler fish came in as a baby and then grew inside by baiting whatever creatures into his trap ,:(

[@jackcook9005]

0:28 awe if not terror

[@MrMike2005]

I thought dark bramble was an error by the eye of the universe

[@CBeavr]

1:16 yea about as sturdy as some guy with a spacesuit and a jetpack

[@Dafta007]

It's possible that the anglerfish on Ember Twin didn't come via a seed, but via the same method that there's jellyfish on Giant's Deep and ice on Attlerock. When the planet was destroyed, a part of the ice carrying the anglerfish landed on Ember Twin and melted, leaving the anglerfish to die.

[@TheLoreExplorer]

that wouldnt explain how it got so deep underground on a planet with no water. in fact, im not sure what would other than them naturally living there and either rock growing around it. or it washing down there like the timber hearth underground water system carries things around.

[@xxxFreelancerxxx]

@@TheLoreExplorer Hourglass Twins exchange the material with each other. It could be simply buried some time later.

[@TheLoreExplorer]

That's true, But the angler is too big to have entered the cave system that way. I've more recently learned ember twin had water on it and the angler fish may actually originate from there.

[@Dafta007]

@@TheLoreExplorer But it's also possible that the angler just grew to this size after being in there. We've seen the eggs inside the planet, they grow in there, they might travel while they're small and then get stuck in their respective bubbles.

[@xxxFreelancerxxx]

@@TheLoreExplorer The caves could be bigger, some could collapsed, some could appear. The geology of this planet is unknown. But it's certain that so much landmasses falling with settling dust may bury anything very deep and fast. Especially when we talking about at least 300 thounds years of history.

[@mothmando2376]

Thank you for the video

[@TheLoreExplorer]

Youre welcome! hopefully its what you were looking for!

[@mothmando2376]

The Lore Explorer yes it was perfect exactly what I was looking for and I didn’t know that there was a 5th planet

[@jackalbeam2532]

Thank you so much, LORΞ ΞXPLORΞR!

[@PrinzMegahertz]

Are the pocket dimensions getting bigger and bigger? I had the feeling that it is us getting smaller

[@TheLoreExplorer]

That’s what feldspar suggests to us. Each node the space expands.

[@jackcook9005]

Great start friend, but dear god there is so much about db to talk and think about...

[@IRFine]

0:47 kilometers?

[@TheLoreExplorer]

yeah. sorry. slip of the tongue. didnt realize it until it was up. 1.6 meters may actually fit in your kitchen lol.

[@Mai_Tai_Meyers]

awesome vid!

[@TheLoreExplorer]

Thank you!

[@finedecision5639]

I have a hypothesis that the best way to destroy the dark bramble (why would you want to do that) is to burn the seed that landed in timber hearth. If each seed contains the space within the dark bramble that contains more seeds that contains more space within the dark bramble, burning a seed would eventually burn everything inside including the other seeds. The cascading immolation will eventually burn everything within the dark bramble. It would be a very big drawback for having virtually unlimited space.

[@SysFan808]

well, make it a controlled fire. (to cut away some vines, make it neat.) eventually, infinite storage room!

[@smithbrosgaming6448]

almost at 7k! you can do it!

[@jujubawav3818]

My favorite planet

[@driedink]

1.6 meters pole to pole?

[@TheLoreExplorer]

kilometers. simple mistake. my b

[@driedink]

@@TheLoreExplorer oh ok

[@Thunderbolt-Racing]

1.6 metres pole to pole? You sure about that, that seems awfully small

[@TheLoreExplorer]

Im sorry

[@diego271088]

“1,6 meters pole-to-pole “ 😂

[@physical_insanity]

2:32 Not sure if this is intentionally done, but the correct word here would be _exploded._

[@TheLoreExplorer]

The seed buries its way to the inside and forces everything out from the center. so yeah. its not exploding inward. but its not exactly exploding. still dont know wtf it is lol

[@physical_insanity]

@@TheLoreExplorer Well, considering I'm a living dictionary and thesaurus (jk), the definition of explode in the simplest terms is usually something coming apart, usually violently but not always, from a central point. You don't necessarily need a fireball to make an explosion, though a shockwave is a determining feature. If you put a watch under too much pressure by tightening the hand adjustment wheel, it will burst apart, or, more aptly, explode. The incident at the 5th planet can be considered an explosion, at least I wager my life's savings on it, since it's a forceful event that rips the planet to pieces. This is why secondary 'synonyms,' are listed as things like "fly apart" or "fly to pieces." When it comes to things like engineering, schematics and stuff, the term "exploded" usually refers to something taken apart and shown in it's entirety, say like a car engine, where you can view each part individually. Some old school lego sets came with an exploded view of smaller sets. Hopefully, I explained this without being too boring or unintelligible, I just get really into explaining language.

[@TheLoreExplorer]

We dont know if its forceful. id personally vote not. I dont think the seed hit the planet, and the resulting energy caused it to break apart. I think it hit much like the one on timber. then the vines grew all the way to the core. Slowly forcing each piece apart. lazy explosion? idk bud.

[@physical_insanity]

@@TheLoreExplorer Yeah, that's what I thought it was too. Effectively, it'd be a low power explosion but an explosion either way, relatively speaking. I mean, for the bramble to crack the planet, it would have to grow at such an astounding rate that it had to have made the planet explode in some way. With the seed on Timber Heart, Tektite said at how the seed had gotten it's roots down quick, which at most would have to be a couple of or several days. That's pretty fucking quick for a seed that size. Give it several weeks and the planet could very well not exist anymore. It could just be a build up of pressure under the crust which make everything pop. All I know is that the planet came apart from a central point, therefore it had to explode in some way. Not all explosions have to be dramatic or some kind of discharge, or at least, that's what my doctor says.

[@TheLoreExplorer]

@@physical_insanity Im not sure how itd exactly work. It may just interrupt the center of gravity for the planet. since bramble itself has little to no gravitational pull, if it took over the core there would be nothing holding its pieces to the body. Cause even if it cracked open most of the pieces should of stayed in orbit. unless the whole thing violently exploded the pieces should of stayed. but either way I was for sure wrong. lol

[@mastermitch2649]

hey lore explorer do you have any advice when first starting out on youtube

[@TheLoreExplorer]

Keep in mind I just sort of started myself not too long ago. But all I did was take something I love and try to share that with people. As for the content itself. Just make sure it's something you'd watch if you didn't make it.

[@SebastianD334]

The bramble seed on timber hearth didn't die, it only landed very recently, as you can tell if you talk to the person there.

[@TheLoreExplorer]

I show it and talk about how they need to kill it. So im confused as to why you said this.

[@SebastianD334]

@@TheLoreExplorer I commented because of what you said at 7:25

[@TheLoreExplorer]

Ah. Mustve meant Ash twin. Though more recent info leads me to believe a bramble seed never made its way to ash twin to die. The angler there likely got there in other ways. but yes. As I showcase in the video. The seed on timber hearth is alive and a problem.

[@SebastianD334]

@@TheLoreExplorer While I have you here, i was wondering if you have a theory of how they got the anglerfish to the observatory on timber hearth?

[@TheLoreExplorer]

the exhibit tells you. It was found attached to the landing legs on a ship that flew close to bramble.

[@ayothemayoman2840]

I’ve come tp the realization, this guy doesn’t know what he’s really talkin about.

[@TheLoreExplorer]

Please, do go on.

[@TheLoreExplorer]

sorry. that probably sounded like, antagnostic. I just mean, like whatcha mean bud? Keep in mind the video is just my best attempt to explain something unexplained.

[@NeroZashi]

Love your videos :D SUB from me :D

[@TheLoreExplorer]

Thank you! Im glad you enjoy the content!

[@NeroZashi]

@@TheLoreExplorer I hope they do more updates to the game :D

[@TheLoreExplorer]

me too! in the last update they added something pretty crazy. so i think they still have bits and bobs they want to plug into the game!

[@NeroZashi]

@@TheLoreExplorer Yeah with 1.0.4 i like what you can do at the Ash Twins Core i wont say just in case it spoils for others but i think you know what i mean lol :D

[@TheLoreExplorer]

Yeah. A lot of people think its just an easter egg but i think its really important to understanding the game! it really firmed up a few theories of mine! It honestly blew my mind!

[@takke9830]

Yall, what if dark bramble originated in giants deep actually and got to the 5th planet through some kind of event possibly related to the interloper and the death crystals on it. I mean all yark bramble seeds except for the planet itself have those shards around them. But they couldn‘t just be ice right? Otherwise they‘d have melted. Now the abglerfish are fish, and so possibly they were in giants deep before getting into dark bramble because of some event. I mean think about it, they live in some kind of gas. Giants deep is a gas giant with a water core. And assuming the fish aren‘t as big as we imagined coming from the being shrunk inside bramble, it makes sense also that one of them was small in the museum like someome else already mentioned. Now dark bramble looks like a vine plant with thorns. A bramble as it‘s name suggests. Now inside giants deep are dark corals. So what if they were mutated with the interloper explosion, and mutated into the first dark bramble seed. Then they got pulled out in some way out of the planet, possibly getting caught up into one of those storms, and by that were yeeted off into space. But you may ask, there‘s a forcefield at the core. You couldn‘t just get in and out easily. So maybe that forcefield was put there to contain the area by someone. Making the jellyfish create and maintain it. This may also be a stretch but remember, one jellyfish is in dark bramble if you do what feldspar tells you to try to figure out the jellyfish mystery. So why would one of them, attached to a piece of land there be on dark bramble? Well. Many things can be true ofc. But I think that there‘s a strong connection to giants deep and it‘s water gas anatomy. Could be a clone of dark bramble wich didn‘t have the electrical core burst open setting free the coral for infection with the crystal. Or something else. But I‘m almost certain it‘s something about dark bramble being related ro giants deep in some way.

[@YourPal69]

I geniunely could not understand why I heard the harmonica from the seed like I was so flabbergasted

[@YourPal69]

So its a parasite?

[@ieatlittlebabies6969]

a theory :If a seed was inside the earlier 5th planet, theres probably a giant dark bramble out there producing the seeds somewhere in space.