Dark Multiverse Superboy Prime: Dark Nights Death Metal Part 4 | Comics Explained

[@Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache]

Superboy-Prime. If he makes it through Death Metal, he will be the only character to have made it through EVERY Crisis...

[@l0sts0ul89]

He better

[@djgardawubz1278]

Jesus

[@Qardo]

Do not worry. DC will kill him to keep that from happening. I am calling it now. Superboy-Prime will end up having a Supergirl Death. Just a rehash of every Crisis. Thus the "Last 52".

[@rafliarya2742]

I think he will died cuz fighting the darkest knight alone

[@Super-Saiyan-Blue-Gogeta]

@@Qardo I hope its not that predictable...

[@kjiyere7224]

Unpopular Opinion: The one-shots are more interesting than the main story.

[@royeltheroyal]

That's a popular opinion

[@Dr.AutismGod]

Stolen comment.

[@muhammadrafli8682]

It’s a fact actually

[@Dr.AutismGod]

@@kjiyere7224 A comment on ReadComicsOnline

[@MattVyle]

Do you post that everywhere? (This guy repeats and spams comments on here & readcomicsonline)

[@hiropisku1078]

I just realized, Clark is still out there. The boy that Dr.Manhattan made, his "hope". I wonder if the two will clash like standard Batman V Superman.

[@biocajun86]

Considering that the people over at DC seem to only reluctantly refer to Doomsday Clock, i doubt we’ll see Clark anytime soon if ever again.

[@wwdmmax]

I don't know. The entire thing between Prime and Wonder Woman felt like an author who's heard the fan criticism of how grimdark and angsty DC has gotten over the years and is desperately trying to rationalize those complaints away. "Well, in the MULTIVERSE..." is not a good enough excuse for why the mainline comics are now "Really Dark Edgy BatMan versus Really Dark Edgy BatMan Featuring the rest of the DC cast". I hope these metal events end soon and never get referenced again, if we're being perfectly honest.

[@biocajun86]

I was honestly thinking the same thing about the context of their conversation. And the writers and editors can eat it for that

[@mittensfastpaw]

I liked Metal but then everything after just tried too hard and we never got a break. Just soured all of it.

[@spencersss1251]

Ironic in his quest to save a world where the heroes are good and don’t have moral questions or anti heroes Prime became what he hates doing evil for the greater good as he sees it.

[@jortharob3406]

DC should make a series showing how these Crisis world's happened. Cause I feel like none of these Villians would be satisfied if they knew Perpetua is running the big show Edit: Maybe I wasn't clear what I meant was a retelling of how the Justice lost. For the 2 who could catch on...

[@aquilmartin2517]

It's called tales from the dark multiverse

[@jenisia3600]

That would be interesting if they do (though i dont think they wont, which is sad)

[@yaqinmalul1364]

Dc was explaining that before this issue

[@กฤษดากลิ่นพิกุล]

She's the true mastermind behind all every Crisis/Crises/Crisises events

[@-jellyzwop-3237]

Superboy Prime is on the good side once again. It took years but LET'S FUCKING GOOOO

[@tekuaniaakab2050]

Man a Scott Snyder Marvel story sounds awesome

[@troublemaker574]

Why would Darkseid and the anti monitor give two shits about a crazy Batman plan? Let alone place their existence in that crazy man's hands?

[@GamingwithMahv1]

Not gonna lie: Would LOVE to see some redemption for Superboy Prime!

[@MarchallWhite12345]

Have you ever heard the Tragedy of Darth Plagueis the Wise? I thought not. It's not a story the Jedi would tell you. It's a Sith legend. Darth Plagueis was a Dark Lord of the Sith so powerful and so wise, he could use the Force to influence the midi-chlorians to create...life. He had such a knowledge of the Dark Side, he could even keep the ones he cared about...from dying. The dark side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural. He became so powerful, the only thing he was afraid of was losing his power...which, eventually of course, he did. Unfortunately, he taught his apprentice everything he knew. Then his apprentice killed him in his sleep. Ironic. He could save others from death...but not himself.

[@กฤษดากลิ่นพิกุล]

The Tragedy of Perpetua the Pure Evil lol

[@kinglyone7172]

Well, it's not a crisis unless Prime is involved.

[@jonathanjones9579]

Please cover the Robin king one shot

[@justincholos.balisang6884]

Just Reboot the whole Continuity after Death Metal. In that way, DC should start from its roots and should have a Solid Continuity and Story. In that way, many people will be Happy and Satisfied.

[@Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache]

NO! Not ANOTHER reboot!

[@210SAi]

Easier said than executed....that was the whole reason for the original Crisis on Infinite Earths and they’ve been trying unsuccessfully ever since

[@Sun-cg6lv]

No reboots. Rebirth literally already brought back what we wanted. We DONT want characters going back we WANT character progression with the characters we grew with erasing legacy characters like Wally and acting as if everyone is in their early 30’s is character regression.

[@TraceRouteMind]

U mean zombie Jonah didn’t have to die ?? Dammit jarro

[@gregnulik1975]

Someone still has to print the comic.

[@_.Lucifer_Lightfall._]

And to think... all this started because of an extra spicy batch of Joker toxin. LOL

[@patriot17764th]

lol ik right??

[@กฤษดากลิ่นพิกุล]

And the Primordial Divine Entity Chick manipulated all every Crisis/Crises/Crisises events in the Source Wall XD

[@Andrew-Ryan]

They say the Jokers heart grew three times that day... then exploded.

[@FulgurHalcyon]

“Ay yo this metal kinda weird” -Batman

[@ayantandon2333]

The Batman who Laughs embodies worst part of Batman writing with his 'Prep time Bullshit' that's meta

[@RobotHau5]

lol a true Batman vs Batman fight, wouldn't be physical, it would be both in their respective caves, using prep-time to figure about what the other one would do. The fight ends when one realizes the other has the upper hand lol

[@yaqinmalul1364]

I hate dc buff ing batman who laugh it suck

[@minatodroger7890]

Lol true

[@quintus920]

@@RobotHau5 That's hilarious, you're probably right.

[@redjirachi1]

He is the literal personification of what those in DC think of Batman

[@DaCoverCollector]

“Honestly guys this right here is the best thing coming out of last 52!”

[@cryptotabernacle3858]

Indeed

[@abhishekmondal5798]

Behold the power of Dr Manhattan

[@Synyster666Synyster]

Haha great reference 👌

[@Anti-HyperLink]

They should really call it The Last 52.

[@johnsantisteban7362]

I saw Superboy Prime in the title and I clicked on this video SO FAST

[@Codarius]

Bruh same

[@MiguelGonzalez-qn3kx]

Yeah me to lol

[@jenisia3600]

Prime is the man

[@AgusAndRaven]

Well, the mobius chair didn't know everything after all...

[@azureheart2846]

I agree with dodo2208. They only know what the chair tells them. And the chair didn’t tell them about the trap.

[@nobalkain624]

At last Prime is redeemed, even if it was a bit rushed.

[@MrKhho100]

I think more than 15 is not quick. Lol

[@igoroliveira6725]

Lets hope they don't redeem him just to kill him off. I think he's one of the few guys who can survive Bathattan due to the nature of his existence. Hope I'm right.

[@jenisia3600]

@@igoroliveira6725 same here. It would be such a shame if they kill him.

[@jenisia3600]

Ikr. So looking forward how they handle him for the rest of the event

[@lastson5014]

I just don't like that it wasn't Superman the one that did it

[@clydefrosch]

Why would Darkseid care about winning a crisis in a fake universe in service of some stranger and a goddess he shouldn't want to care about?

[@cheeseburgerfreddy6350]

Yeah I think this is an alternate version of Darkseid because in JL OD he's currently rebuilt apokolips and is in the sphere of God's now

[@JasenMinus]

My exact thoughts. Why would he of all beings take just a world. From a Batman...

[@sylvestermalifa1653]

Probably cause he knew if he didnt settle for a fake universe he would settle for nothing

[@surprisesnickers4411]

perpetua and much stronger than him, he would be left with nothing in the multiverse to dominate, and the famous phrase if you can't beat them join them

[@Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache]

@@surprisesnickers4411 That moment DC’s literal incarnation of evil has a lower power level than some chick who was behind the Wall the whole time.

[@USMCRabbit]

"he rigged the mobius chair" of course he did...

[@barryfraser831]

Rob seems really easy to convince. He basically agrees with every villain.

[@Gray963]

Glad I'm not the only one who notices this. I'm worried about Rob 'and' his influence. He really really needs to stop telling people villains are right, the end justifies the means, and that idealism and virtue are stupid... it's not a healthy way to live or think. People who think like that only do so because they're young or have bias from trauma, and it's a bad rabbit hole to fall into.

[@kurtlindner]

I've been saying/ feeling this for awhile as well. The arguments he uses to support bad acts have had me worried about his mental well being, he's falling back more and more on some very outdated perspectives to explain away clearly immoral actions.

[@officerspider7996]

I think Rob is secretly a Super Villain

[@MCR123321]

History's villains never considered themselves villains, from their perspective *they* were the heroes. Rob's perspective of _indeed_ the ends justifies the means is... disturbing.

[@ryanwall1470]

He's a comic book nerd who makes KZbin vids about comics for a living... it's not real life guys lol.

[@SntKnight]

I had to roll my eyes when Batman Who laughs rigged the chair. Really??? He was able to rig the chair and Prime Batman would not consider that. I am having a hard time believing

[@mittensfastpaw]

Just an awful plot point.

[@yaqinmalul1364]

Becouse it just another lame story created by snyder

[@tylongkicks8821]

@@mittensfastpaw Snyder story is getting worse. Alot of Plot Induced Stupidity.

[@mittensfastpaw]

@@tylongkicks8821 I'm out.

[@yaqinmalul1364]

We are agree with you

[@christianblack4060]

I feel like death metal isn't that cohesive of a story. It feels like this needed to be told over a longer period of time and needed more build up rather than to just happen suddenly after number 50 of justice league. The batman who laughs is just becoming so tiring. Lol

[@NP-zv4bf]

Very true, death metal is already a crisis event without the name, it should have been teased earlier in order to build hype

[@kadeweezywoodward9485]

Right? One minute superman is dick deep in apokolips hellfire being transformed, the next hes G2G with the boys like nothing happened

[@MasterCalibrimore]

But it did & now it’s done. Why complain

[@kadeweezywoodward9485]

@@MasterCalibrimore for the same reason you felt the need to reply to him?

[@MasterCalibrimore]

@@kadeweezywoodward9485 but Did I ask you though?? You need to mind your own Opinion. This is KZbin Kid

[@TurboSilke]

so superboy prime is the one making sense, becouse he didnt like heroes sometimes doing bad for a good reason? so he did evil to get a better world? ok then....

[@yaqinmalul1364]

He become insane becouse he loss his home world earth prime

[@TurboSilke]

@@yaqinmalul1364 I know he is insane, i just want to know why Rob doesnt see that.

[@กฤษดากลิ่นพิกุล]

He also being manipulated secretly by Perpetua too...

[@Desciple860]

Synder is a great writer. My only criticism of him is his close outs can be hit or miss

[@UnexpectedWonder]

That's reasonable.

[@Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache]

Bingo, amongst other things.

[@saturncrush]

It is consumable, just disappointing....like a dessert that is pound cake without the icing and no ice cream, instead of the chocolate mousse with raspberries spectacular. 😶

[@Greywind111]

Yes, but only for the DC stuff. His indi work is amazinlngy good in almost everything

[@Desciple860]

@@saturncrush lol i couldn't had put it better.like, metal was soooo good but seemed like he wrote himself in a corner. Same with the batman who laughs mini series. I love his work on batman. It's been a great ride he just got to pick up the ending and he would be in another league than any other writer IMO

[@zacharymillis9176]

Not gonna lie, I like seeing prime be the rational one. Like he never went bonkers, he just got pushed past his point of reason and reacted in the heat. It's a shame that he was written as a maniac in prior stories bc it's stretches disbelief pretty far.

[@yaqinmalul1364]

You not wrong

[@minatodroger7890]

All it took was a really bad day i felt for him

[@MasterCalibrimore]

It was only a Bad day. The whole point was Because of what he believed in & They touched on that

[@WannabeWryter]

I would have made there a reason that he acted so crazy for like a decade. Like mabye because when he outside his home dimension he loses control of the all power he wields and goes insane. However when he regains his mind he still hates the league.

[@Tracker947]

You're missing the point. SuperBOY Prime never grew up. He never got the chance to before his universe was taken from him. THAT'S why he was so fucked up. He was a essentially a man child

[@subzeroisbetter8506]

it's no longer a theory if They just clarified that's the true form darkseid.

[@jonathanthompson592]

@Bunyamin Esen an avatar of his is in odyssey.

[@clydefrosch]

Metal and Death metal is just 100% headcanon fanfic what ifs... And it's silly.

[@jacksithlord1301]

It’s badass

[@kvng_rvbby]

And it’s fun.

[@chrishall5570]

Yes but that's sort of just the nature of comics and its one of the things I like about them the most.

[@surprisesnickers4411]

I think this story is really cool, the DC stories were getting boring, Batman in Gotham fighting the same villains always, Superman in Metropolis with the same stories as always DC needed this dynamic something to change things

[@Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache]

It's Cake Frosting: The Event. Some people can subsist on it every day. I, personally, can slowly feel myself dying with each bite.

[@baked7423]

I would like if superboy prime gets some sort of redemption. Kinda liking how he is right now. Also next issue we could get superboy prime vs batman who laughs which will be interesting.

[@yaqinmalul1364]

Yeah but if dc make batman who laugh win again i will be mad and claim this story is trash

[@ayo4345]

@@yaqinmalul1364 Gotta agree.

[@yaqinmalul1364]

Yep bro

[@royeltheroyal]

The Batman Who Laughs is technically a mary sue at this point and it is very annoying

[@Aristocratic13]

Royel VERY annoying and overused

[@supersaiyanshonathan]

Very overrated too.

[@biocajun86]

THANK YOU!!!! I’m over it at this point

[@yaqinmalul1364]

I hate it dc too much buffing batman who laugh it suck

[@jonathancampbell7798]

Hes been a marysue for most of Metal. Especially after. "Oh I knew Perpetua would ally with me, not you Lex." "Oh, I knew how everyone would react"

[@perrymason8471]

Man Who Laughs constantly winning has become annoying.

[@mittensfastpaw]

Metal was great but then they let nothing simmer or take a break. Just back to back laughs crap with Batman. The laughs that never loses.

[@Animusfortemorty]

So... in short: Again the batman who laughs predicted all and outsmart everyone? kinda repetitive no?

[@prasunkumar117]

At this point it's just a deus ex plot point.

[@WeaponXSigma]

Pretty much

[@gwroly]

Honestly this time it makes sense

[@mittensfastpaw]

Extremely

[@LAVATORR]

What else does he do besides repeatedly come up with a deus ex machina at the last second?

[@jesquivias098]

(superboy prime exits) everyone: whos playing giornos theme

[@RoVirus]

Yup, they turned the "Batman + prep time" concept into a character. Tf is that I rigged the chair move?! XD

[@SuperDknuckles]

My head canon is makein mes think superboy prime knows somethin about Perpetua seeing as they shared the same prison for bit.

[@William-Gregory]

The made the Batman who Laughs too smart. I mean this is silly at this point.

[@yaqinmalul1364]

Yeah i agree with you it suck And they do that many before

[@shiva0]

Honestly, it's to the point of unintentional self parody.

[@yaqinmalul1364]

Batman who laugh is trash they better kill it

[@adrikklassen]

He isn't too smart, the other characters that are too dumb to think a bit ahead. Nowadays he is just a poor way to escalate conflict.

[@krogan2661]

@@adrikklassen You can’t say they’re dumb when the entirety of BWLs character is based around him knowing and countering literally every possible action that could be taken against him. As far as I see it when you could replace damn near every panel a character is in with a picture of an Uno reverse card and “No u” the character is a failure and writers need to be fired.

[@firetarrasque4667]

"You're the *real* Darkseid!" Every version of Darkseid is the real Darkseid. Darkseid is a multiverse singularity.

[@shiva0]

I'd think that the laughing Bat was a parody of both edgy grimdark and the whole preptime thing but DC just puts him everywhere and takes him oh so seriously. I kinda like the take in DK Metal but they should have used him like Prime or the Antimonitor, occasional big bads who show up in crisis like events. ...... Except this whole thing since DK: M has been one long string of mini-crisis... so I guess there's that problem too.

[@mittensfastpaw]

This right here. The constant use of him and alternate Batman has ruined the concept all together.

[@ayo4345]

I like him and the other evil alternate batmen, the biggest problem however is how he always wins.

[@EgyptianGhost11]

So we went through all the convoluted plot of entering these three seperate realities whilst taking out all these multidimensional antennas whilst using the speed force to get the mobias chair to suck up all the crisis energy to power up the Flash to the power of a god.... and after all this seemed to succeed, The Batman Who Laughs comes out and says "I Knew You'd Do That"... again. For like the hundreth time. God he's a boring villain.

[@LAVATORR]

If he did improv comedy, he'd be Michael Scott pulling out a gun in every scene.

[@prasunkumar117]

He was a god tier villain when he initially appeared in death metal bit he has gotten more oversaturated than justice league+ joker combined

[@sangun123]

@@prasunkumar117 god tier is a fucking stretch, was kind of a cool concept at face value of an evil joker/batman hybrid, but quickly turned into edgy nonsense

[@jonassiendervils2102]

So Superman failed to redeem Superboy-Prime, but Wonder woman did. Incredible!

[@SalemArc]

The things boys do for hot chicks

[@jonassiendervils2102]

@Morons Are Governing America 🤣 WTF

[@itsme-fj4gg]

and all it took is just a few lines

[@l0sts0ul89]

The power of the boner

[@UnifiedEntity]

Doesnt really make all that much sense to me to be real honest.

[@nobodyknowsforsure]

the batman who laughs: I planned for your plan you planned after you planned to plan about the other plan. Every. Single. Time...and it's sickening. Has he ever been caught off guard? Once I think...whatever.

[@dragonwings123456789]

He's been caught off guard 3 times. Twice by Batman and Joker and once by Apex Lex

[@nobodyknowsforsure]

@@dragonwings123456789 you can't even call the Apex Lex one for sure because he got strung along in the end.

[@WeaponXSigma]

@@dragonwings123456789 Batman and Joker caught him off guard. Lex however got played like a fiddle.

[@kappadarwin9476]

You could tell something was off when the Batman Who Laughs seemed unconcerned about Wally getting the Mobius chair.

[@shayscruggs7829]

Batman who laughs: all according to keikaku. Everythings going to according to my plan, my plan is great.

[@yaqinmalul1364]

I hate that that was bad writing

[@TheChronoG]

I hope they finally kill him off for good with this dumb story. He has really overstayed his welcome.

[@shayscruggs7829]

@@TheChronoG that he has

[@mittensfastpaw]

@@TheChronoG Great concept ruined by no breaks or slow simmers. Just him always winning and being in every damn friggin story.

[@yaqinmalul1364]

Bwl is ugly to get spotlight as villian

[@jenisia3600]

I love how they completely ignore Prime's appearance on John's shazam (that was such a disappointing issue, God know John put him there to boost sales)

[@NPCbot82]

Doesn't the fact that prime is willing to deal with tbwl make him just as nuanced and antihero like as the heroes he's against?

[@sarge1408]

"Often people adapt this mentality of 'I want things to get better but I don't want to sacrifice anything in the process' but sometimes, to make an Omelet, you gotta break a few eggs." Tony Stark: That was my line.

[@10.YEARS.TO.CHANGE.MY.NAME.]

Fucking love iron man !

[@spottedslash4256]

Iron man was always too entitled for me to side with. He just likes doing things his way. I'd rather go with Spider-mans philosophy.

[@pranaypinnenti4472]

Doesn't matter is I have followed the series or not if super boy prime is in the title I will surely watch it Love from India🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳

[@DarkNorthEmperor]

💯

[@cramirez3855]

GOD BLESS

[@shainips32]

I'm also from India

[@ronaldmullins8221]

Concerning how Superboy Prime showed up after the Source Wall, I never take into consideration other comic books to explain anything. To me they never do because they're all different stories doing different things not paying attention to each other in order to make a cohesive universe. They don't connect and I don't think they ever really did

[@TheChronoG]

Well, they do try to form a cohesive canon but it's really just a mess. DC needs better oversight on their stories.

[@MarchallWhite12345]

Beyond Omega Level: Magus Beyond Omega Level: Perpetua Beyond Omega Level: Impossible Man Beyond Omega Level: Deweller-in-Darkness Beyond Omega Level: Trigon Beyond Omega Level: Highfather Beyond Omega Level: Serpent (Cul Borson) Beyond Omega Level: D'Spayre Beyond Omega Level: Nightmare Beyond Omega Level: The Phantom Stranger

[@cramirez3855]

@superboy prime how u gonna let diana talk down to u like that boiiiiiiii

[@Etern1tyGR]

So that kid Möbius and that Darkseid are the real ones, who got transferred by TBWL to their respective Crisis moments in order to win.

[@cheeseburgerfreddy6350]

Weird because TFD is currently in JLO at this moment so this doesn't make any sense

[@Etern1tyGR]

@@cheeseburgerfreddy6350 Yeah i thought he was hiding at ghost sector. Propably something in between happened.

[@cheeseburgerfreddy6350]

@@Etern1tyGR He's currently rebuilt apocalypse and regained his power

[@mitchthe3518]

I honestly thought justice league odyssey would end with the batman who laughs and darkfather interrupt and then they kidnap darkseid but that wouldn't match up with the beginning of doom metal #2

[@itsme-fj4gg]

from the looks of it, superboy prime just yeeted those realities with a single punch(an assumption of mine)

[@dickstarrbuck]

Man, the Batman who laughs is like the "IVE THOUGHT OF EVERYTHING" the villain. Kinda lame.

[@cunnyman]

What's idiotic about it is that why is he the only evil Batman to be this cunning? Like, really... What about other Batmen? Why are they not anywhere near this cunning? I know the event is pretty fun but it has a dumb ass plot.

[@midwings00]

Yea. He thought of everything and still let's things happen. He is just toying with them, but that's not even a good story.

[@dickstarrbuck]

@Darth Pancake Studios at least at first it was like spy vs spy, and it balanced out. Now its like Telenovela silliness

[@dalesabandal9113]

Well he does represent batmans worst trait. "Batman always wins" so its fitting

[@jenisia3600]

Havent read comics in a while, but since ive read the Dark Metal issues with Prime, the impression ive gotten of BwL is this statement that almost everyone says of him. He's really that lame isn't he?

[@vernonhampton5863]

As interesting as this is, I'm deeply in Bat-fatigue. I mean, how can you say that this dude is just a rich guy in a suit when the same character has conquered almost all of negative reality?

[@Anti-HyperLink]

There were good guys and bad guys and they were all one dimensional.

[@alexisislas-gonzalez5991]

Good guys who are also dicks to anyone that oppose their goodnesses

[@chrislatam5423]

The good day LoL jajajaja

[@chrislatam5423]

@@alexisislas-gonzalez5991 and like... kynda dicks, they put WW of secretary of de JL

[@MrOvadose101]

What a damn minute. How is it main Batman who bounces every scenario didn't suspect that TBWL in his omnipotent form would not plan to be betrayed?

[@kadeweezywoodward9485]

Snyder CAN be a good writer... now he just writes fan fiction for shock value. Uncreative stuff that sounds like it was taking off a reddit forum.

[@calboyalexander8181]

Dc comics was always be a fanfic its multiple author who wrotte what they want. Its not like a manga who have 1 author and if its writte by another one its automatically not canon.

[@DallySkyeAnims]

Superboy Prime legit punches reality *again* for Batman, Superman, and Wonder Woman to get out of their loss. Good stuff. xd

[@leroydsouza69]

Me:(Sees Darkseid) "Someone call Trigon, A certain "God" needs to get his cheeks clapped again...."

[@superiorkaos]

peak dc was 2016 when you had the end of the new 52, darkened war then rebirth, superman reborn then dark knights metal & doomsday clock. Peak Snyder was his new 52 batman run. For the longest while dc has felt so convoluted. Doomsday clock didn't really have the impact or address the issues it originally set out to. Then we had Snyder's justice league which further confused things where it's not easily explainable anymore. In flash forward & death metal suddenly dr manhattan is referenced after being absent in all books other than doomsday clock which would have been fine if the landscape was the same but it's not. Would have been much better if scott snyder's justice league started after doomsday clock to make things abit more natural as right now its still a lot of 'fill in the blanks yourself'. I much prefer the new 52 leading into rebirth era where it was much easier to understand and comprehend what is going on in small/ solo books and the cosmic books

[@sirellyn]

There were good guys and bad guys as metaphor, and a time when people understood there was a much deeper meaning and significance for those metaphors. Incredibly important reasons why timeless stories were timeless. When you start to think of them as tropes or cliches you've lost the plot.

[@KimbaLemur]

There is no avatars of Dakseid. I dunno what anyone's right mind got that idea really.. It's long dead as this comic & odyssey proved it & Darksied DID truly died as superman simply sang him out of existence & new iteration cropped up because of the new 52 reboot. lol Oh boy I cant wait to see how laughs loses still. He is simply delaying the inevitable. He is nothing more than a bad idea trying to kill the good ideas. He has overstayed his welcome.

[@blazezard501]

It is GREAT to see Superboy Prime as a good guy

[@l0sts0ul89]

You could argue that he was always a good guy

[@prasunkumar117]

Not good just working against a mutual enemy who wants to erase all existence and make it in his twisted image.

[@nobodyknowsforsure]

@@l0sts0ul89 no...no you can't...are we just glossing over the countless slaughtering he did?? Or is it okay to slaughter ppl as long as you get the 'good world' back?

[@benjaminloudly]

So the Batman Who Laughs is basically just another anime villain at this point? "But THIS was really my plan all along..."

[@nobodyknowsforsure]

even anime villains don't plan out every molecule of everything like he does...

[@prasunkumar117]

Yup he is pretty much aizen/ywahch from bleach lol

[@jeronbranon181]

Hey Rob, superboy prime actually tells wonder women HE went to TBWL and made a deal..... So really don't know how he ended up there

[@-libertyprimev1-902]

Did- Did Superboy Prime just Punch Reality Again, Destroying Two Crisis'... With... ONE PUUUNNNCH!!! 🎶

[@jenisia3600]

Yes he did 💪

[@-libertyprimev1-902]

@Jon Kent what? I'm not talking about that one

[@Anti-HyperLink]

Except the good guys did sometimes do bad things. Batman hanged a guy. But to be fair, that was very early in Batman's entire run.

[@jonathancampbell7798]

Nah, they consider OG batman to be the golden age run. Thats why you see that costume and not evil batman who used guns and hung people with his plane

[@Anti-HyperLink]

@@jonathancampbell7798 You don't understand a thing about DC comics.

[@MattVyle]

Redemption time for Superboy Prime? Also, yeah, of course, OF COURSE The Batman Who Laughs rigged the mobius chair, of course! duh! :|

[@erictheguapo]

This was a garbage story. I hate that anyone can just steal Dr Manhattan's power. DC has pushed out some hot trash recently.

[@goni2493]

Like marvel's any better?

[@calboyalexander8181]

Im not a dc fan and i find dc univers stupid in general with alot of incoherences but this story is the best dc story i ever read. I put dc over mavel for death metal and dceases.

[@sabarishhh9409]

Ohh yeah what about power cosmic and pheonix force? They are just giving those to anyone like a gift

[@nobodyknowsforsure]

@@calboyalexander8181 Dceased so far is good, this is trash

[@unintentionallydramatic]

Amen. And people wonder why everyone's moving to manga.

[@theonewhoisbetterthanyou3570]

Even for comics this isnt making sense but I like it.

[@kevinnosaurus793]

I never understand why Harley is there. I mean with Swamp-Thing , Jarro and Hex they have like some abilities , superhuman to the degree you know. But Harley ? Shes basically just human.

[@Blyegh]

They’re trying to make her more important in general.

[@iloathepeoplewhorestilltal2774]

She’s overrated

[@l0sts0ul89]

@@iloathepeoplewhorestilltal2774 Yeah, her show isn't that good too. It's ok but it isn't amazing

[@donovanlarsen7982]

Exactly, she’s there because she’s the often overlooked character, simply because she doesn’t have superhuman abilities. I mean she’s even usually written off by Batman, and when you’re up against a guy like Batman, who always wins due to studying everyone and preparing to defeat them with knowledge, being overlooked is your *absolute best advantage* .

[@chocolateking1143]

Ehhhh DC has made it a point to give her a role in EVERYTHING. She’s very popular and tons of people will read it just because she’s there. I know it sounds weird but I know some collectors who buy anything with Harley on it... that’s just how it is.

[@h.plovecat4307]

Im actually getting sick of the dark multiverse and everything that came with it.

[@kurtlindner]

This entire story is a big hand wave.

[@elijahunknown155]

everyone is complaining about the Batman who laughs' "prep time"... He IS essentially the combination of both the Joker and Batman... the Joker's mind is complete chaos, whereas Batman's mind is bent on solving the probable outcomes of chaos (however one does that lol), SO to me, the rigged Mobius chair was quite expected

[@กฤษดากลิ่นพิกุล]

Also, with the powers of Manhattan that far more powerful wiser than new gods themselves, i think it might possible lol

[@galio7741]

Why do people like Superboy Prime so much? He's just a crazy Superman

[@yaqinmalul1364]

At silver age he is good man like other superhero and of couse bevouse he op

[@sangun123]

he's OP af, and he comes from a universe like the real life one we're in right now, he was a kid that got powers and went insane

[@yaqinmalul1364]

But he was good guy at first but got imsane becouse lost his universe at crisis on infinite earth

[@SonicBadass]

Power Scaling

[@Amardarial]

I think Superboy Prime can still take him, dude is dumb strong.

[@Anti-HyperLink]

What "traditional heroes"? The anti-hero thing is silly. People who are called heroes in real life are far from pure good.

[@UnexpectedWonder]

That's probably the Argument being made here.

[@cramirez3855]

Its a comic book. Jesus

[@harikiran4339]

@@UnexpectedWonder he doesn't get that...

[@kingmedaing]

Seems Like Clark Dreiberg should be showing up at some point to put a stop to all of this

[@biocajun86]

I just responded to another comment about this. DC editorial is only reluctantly referring to Doomsday Clock. They want to dismiss it altogether, but it has a fan base that can’t be overlooked. Therefore, they’re only referring to it as much as they have to. Suffice to say, i doubt we’ll see Clark anytime soon if ever again at all.

[@ruflupucus8720]

Seriously dude, the New 52 wasn't that bad. Yes, it left some plot threads hanging but it was nothing they couldn't have easily fixed. It's better than the Batman nut hugging that has been going on (oh look it's Anti-Moniter Batman with Dr. Manhattan and Perpetua's power combined and he rides around in the Mobius Chair while wearing Ares Helmet and using the Omega Sanction!!! Whooo so cooool!!!) The New 52 had more creativity in one page than the entirety of Rebirth and the Dark Knight Metal series has.

[@MisterSinister47]

This story has really gone on for too long.

[@indeedgaminghere401]

Can someone explain to me why the Batman Who Laughs is more cunning and dangerous the Batman fused with Flash (who can move and think a million times faster then the Batman Who Laughs) Cyborg Batman or Martian Manhunter Batman? Like let's be honest, being fused with the Joker shouldn't be this big of a power up. Personally i think this character ran its course like a year ago smh lol

[@jeffreywilson6936]

Do they end up stabbing the batman who laughs with the dagger?

[@mitchthe3518]

No, that dagger is in the possession of the Robin king who was appointed as the batman who laughs's successor when he became the darkest knight

[@leonpetrichiutto1152]

So one of the most evil and malevolent nihilistic psychopaths in the Multiverse has now pretty much become a God with virtually limitless power to destroy the Mother of the Multiverse (Perpetua) , reshape all reality and consume all of the Omniverse. Yeah were fucked. Or like a great man in a different Metaverse once said....... "Were in the Endgame now"

[@jacobnethercott2336]

I rlly hope the batman who laughs goes off on some twisted whim and gives Harley some kind of power

[@hurka.design]

So Superboy Prime is a Super Boomer, who can't move on and accept that things change constantly, and indefinitely.

[@Mista.Sir.]

Let’s get it lol perfect start to the morning

[@xavierhammonds8847]

On Earth prime Superboy was the only superhero. All his knowledge of heroes came from comic books he didn't even know the existed for real till Crisis of infinite earths

[@kongsied4279]

Wait a minute, so who the hell is the guy that we see in Jla Odyssey. This whole Darksied debacle is Ludacris bruh

[@cheeseburgerfreddy6350]

That's the real Darkseid in OD this is the dark Multiverse version of TFD

[@kongsied4279]

@@cheeseburgerfreddy6350 I'm waiting for my shop to open, he just said TBMWL went to the one "from the positive matter Universe" why he said that, he also said Superman acknowledged that this was "The real Darksied" coming to that conclusion by his energy signature

[@cheeseburgerfreddy6350]

@@kongsied4279 That's weird because thr Real Darkseid is also in JL OD so either that's the TFD of the Dark Multiverse or there is a continuity problem

[@kongsied4279]

@@cheeseburgerfreddy6350 Yeah DC has a lot of those, or either Rob is just assuming this Idk. Have to check it out 😆 I get the feeling a lot of writers aren't happy with what Morrison did with Darksied though. Even though Darksied did mention having avatars before final crisis.

[@cheeseburgerfreddy6350]

@@kongsied4279 Yeah he did have avatars before FC but Grant Morrison tried to retcon all of Darkseids defeats from the heroes but after the New 52 we've been seeing more of TFD but he's been more powerful than before so at least writer's stopped making Darkseid a weak jobber.

[@WaySensei]

"I rigged the mobius chair" "No no no no no no, I don't want to write this, DC!", says Synder

[@TheMightyBattleSquid]

I'm really seeing why people are sick of the batman who laughs. Literally everything, even multiversal phenomena that have never been attempted before, are somehow a part of his grand master plan...

[@yaqinmalul1364]

Dc too much give him plot armor that suck and bad written

[@eliandervalderen5849]

Actually that makes sense. The first BC Multiverse pick crisis on Earth one or two and so forth but it's actually there were infinite worlds in the Multiverse. Flashpoint broke things to the point where there were only 52 noon world tonight was one Multiverse a subset of other Multiverse is that the heroes did not know about. Now the Batman who laughs too much going out of his way to destroy all but 52 universes that he has discovered

[@jeffguan3786]

I believe True Form Darkseid can make anyone Darkseid, when Darkseid had an origin as a farmer or a prince. He was meant to become Darkseid since he is the avatar of it. In every reality True Form Darkseid chooses Uxas as the avatar. But what if True Form Darkseid chooses Superman, Batman, or Wonderwoman as the avatar of Darkseid? That would be super cool.

[@johnlawful2272]

Didn't he steal it from his brother

[@75_86]

Not how Darkseid works

[@jeffguan3786]

@@75_86 then how does he work? Isn’t true form Darkseid the concept of Evil?

[@75_86]

@@jeffguan3786 Darkseid is pretty much always in his true form. The whole “always using avatars” is a misconception sprung up by many big YT channels.

[@jeffguan3786]

@@75_86 yeah that’s understandable.

[@firetarrasque4667]

Superboy Prime had a good ending back during Darkest Night, if imma be honest.

[@quentin52]

wait so darkside and the anti monitor kill themselves to help achieve the batmans who laughs goals. Out of no good reason but the kindness of their heart. Yeahhhh story is kinda becoming trash ngl.

[@atlanime]

The Superboy Prime that's shown in Death Metal is the Superboy Prime of the DARK Multiverse. The one shown in the Shazam comics is the ORIGINAL Prime.

[@Etern1tyGR]

No. They are the same.

[@biocajun86]

No, they’re the same. Just ignoring Johns’s Shazam run lol

[@TheSwordfish009]

If Darkseid is just a conceptional being similar to the Eternals then how the hell could he have a father and biological children?

[@shamash23]

Maybe one of the avatars?

[@fresh2924]

like a hierarchy of concepts, cruelty would be considered to be something evil, and likewise kalibak the cruel is the son of darkseid. just my head canon

[@minatodroger7890]

Same way how the endless can have children. The plot needs it and I guess they can make dna

[@jz807]

I don't know if I'm a alone here, but I think this whole story is a bust

[@jz807]

@Helder Almeida I get you

[@calboyalexander8181]

ok true form darkseid is basically king thanos....

[@UnexpectedWonder]

More or less.

[@calboyalexander8181]

@@UnexpectedWonder thats crazy if you take off the horns and put a pupple filter even their face match😅 Maybe its a reference because the energy form darkseid was exactly the samething as cosmic cube thanos aswell.

[@UnexpectedWonder]

@@calboyalexander8181 I mean they do mirror each other to a degree.

[@dannytarver4533]

It was kind of obvious Prime was going to help them.