Dark Samus VS SA-X

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[@TibTobTom]

For a second I thought it would just be 15 minutes of Dark Samus and the SA-X arguing in a court. I mean I still would have watched it

[@noahjones9833]

Same

[@phoenixwright7802]

ive never seen this channel before and honestly im disappointed it wasn't 15 minutes of court arguing

[@IamCanadian3333]

Same tbh, and I would not have complained.

[@Shagaru_Bleed]

Time to update those autopsy reports again.

[@1tsbag134]

I wouldn't. It looks too cringe to me

[@BurgerSoup]

I mean, of course Dark Samus is clearly stronger than a jazz instrument

[@DaiShuryoTechnus]

Yes, the SA-X is as squishy as mayonnaise XD

[@bubu3625]

Saxist

[@RRios0027]

Sax offender

[@BurgerSoup]

@@RRios0027 *Bill Clinton

[@hydroids]

I disagree

[@StefanoAgrotis]

Dark samus is technically metroid prime. If that's the case.. The metroid is the natural predator of the parasite :)

[@squeenixu]

I mean, not after the end of Metroid Prime 2, where she becomes an entity of pure Phazon, but I don't know how that would affect anything

[@haruhirogrimgar6047]

@@squeenixu There were some Metroid's or metroid clones that the Space Pirates tested Phazon on. Most seem to have come out as sickly.

[@Mrperson0]

@@haruhirogrimgar6047 Yeah, it's safe to say that Dark Samus is the one who provided the Space Pirates the Metroids for testing/use in Prime 3. Even in the uploader's "Is Metroid Prime really a Metroid?" video, he seems to have ignored that it could create Metroids on its own.

[@michaelhoffman518]

@@Mrperson0 True, but that video was only analyzing the american video which has since been outdated by the European version and Prime Trilogy.

[@michaelhoffman518]

So even if the sax did revert into parasite form dark Samus could just absorb it.

[@CrimsonStag05]

Crocomire: The definition of “Just happy to be included”

[@sussybaka3648]

#ProtectTheCroco

[@MdSolehin]

Fun fact : the SA-X does in fact use Samus s memories in their fight! Notice how the sax uses the ice beam to freeze Samus and then shoot her with missiles! That's how Samus used to kill Metroids and sense Samus is part Metroid , it makes sense for the sax to use this strategi! It's a neat little detail that not a lot a people notice sense they're to busy running away from it!

[@boss6044]

Dark Samus did a cool flip in prime 3, that's a win for me.

[@Pika_Gabe]

Steez

[@shadow_king12344]

that intro was gold and worth the wait. You could say this video was coming" just in time"

[@samuelhayden8665]

Weird I was re-playing metroid prime 3 the other day

[@loomypedro5785]

I can literally hear that phrase, oh man the feels are real

[@xwingknight]

How Ghory of you

[@sabrinacosta5667]

Dark samus and SA-X :*arguing* Gandrayda : *eating popcorn in the background*

[@TheOrpheon]

I knew i missed a potential joke

[@HolyDiverGirl]

lol

[@felynecomrade]

Dark Samus: "Stop eating so loudly." Gandrayda: "Yes ma'am, sorry ma'am, don't hurt me ma'am."

[@Dan_Cattell_Art]

One point that gets overlooked in this video is that Dark Samus is, at her core, still a Metroid. That's a big edge against SA-X.

[@gerbilcrab2465]

That's an excellent point. The X could not infect Dark Samus as she would simply absorb the X like any Metroid would.

[@crimsonrayquaza46]

Dark Samus about to vore the SA-X

[@andrewaftontheandroidhedge2780]

@@crimsonrayquaza46 wait dark samus has a mouth

[@Mrperson0]

The reason is the uploader doesn't believe Dark Samus has Metroid DNA (stated at the end of their "Is Metroid Prime really a Metroid?" video). However, this doesn't make sense, since it's probably thanks to Dark Samus that the Space Pirates had access to Metroids in Prime 3.

[@derrickdaniels3955]

Phazon is a mutagenic agent. A Metroid exposed and absorbed an absurd amount creating Metroid Prime. It absorbed the phazon in Samus suit taking some of her DNA in the process. This would technically make Dark Samus a Human, Chozo, Metroid hybrid. It should also be noted that Samus suit is not all mechanical its also biological too. In the manga Joey and Samus, I can't remember where but at some point a piece of the suits arm cannon came off and later regenerated. Samus states that the suit is made from her DNA, and though the manga may or may not be canon that doesn't mean that some elements such as her suit being made from her isn't. This would explain why Dark samus has a slimmer more organic looking suit compared to Samus.

[@foxeye245]

The SA-X wasn’t attacking the Metroids in that scene of Metroid Fusion, she was attacking the facility. We learn in Other M that The Federation’s Metroid facilities have an auto self-destruct feature when they take too much damage, so she was trying to activate that and kill all the Metroid in one fatal swoop. So I think the intelligence of the SA-X is at least on the same level as Samus, perhaps even surpassing it.

[@robertwyatt3912]

And literally sixty seconds later, she succeeded.

[@rayzas4885]

She's not smarter then Samus whatsoever.

[@andrewt329]

@@rayzas4885 I mean, it Kind of has to be. The X absorb all knowledge and memories. All that Samus knows, the SA-X knows.

[@rayzas4885]

@@andrewt329 That means at most its samus level intelligence. It certainly didn't display that intelligence when in fusion however

[@trueMCGRaven]

@@rayzas4885 no that doesn't mean "at most Samus level intelligence" but "AT MINIMUM Samus level intelligence". The SA-X literally is a perfect copy of Samus at the beginning of fusion and Samus does not gain any relevant amount of smarts in that game.

[@im.literally.ridley]

Crocomire, the ultimate witness

[@Drackormort]

Well Crocomire has 8 eyes...

[@aecholapis]

👀👀👀👀

[@im.literally.ridley]

@@Drackormort yup

[@niclaswa5408]

88w88 what’s this

[@justzillathekingofgames6867]

I never played the Prime trilogy but I played the hell out of Fusion. SA-X legit scared me. During that frist encounter/ run sequence I was panicing and screaming because all I saw was my heatlh dropping and my weapons did nothing. That was the first time a Ninitendo game ever scared me.

[@Other8arry]

Dude me too, I was in Iraq at the time, playing this game over and over again, and there id be, huddled in my hole in the ground at night going “guys check this out this is spooky as shit” to 168 marines. The second the SAX turns to face the fourth wall in the beginning of the game still gives me chills.

[@Ivy64_]

The first game I remember being scared from was the first professor layton. That God damn ferris wheel scene.

[@emperorcokelord1021]

Shame that it wasn't used much outside scripts

[@Other8arry]

@@enforcerridley158 Anh, the bullets don’t always fly. It turns out there’s an awful lot of “downtime” in war. I think I read all 3 lord of the rings books + the hobbit, twice.

[@spencerweiss6337]

@@Other8arry damn that’s a unique environment to be a Nintendo kid (teen? Adult?) in, let alone Metroid Fusion haha I played the whole game scared of it popping up out of nowhere after seeing those empty eyes

[@aecholapis]

3:00 This would not be a Metroid themed video made by The Orpheon without having everyone's favourite running joke in it

[@theultimater2018]

Just in time

[@TheOrpheon]

Or some easter eggs ;)

[@MasterJunior93]

Nah, the superior dark clone is the fourth player Samus from the Metroid Prime 2 multiplayer.

[@MastaGambit]

this comment is perfection

[@supaboy339]

I dont get it someone explain ?

[@montywh]

in Prime 2, the game had a 4-player deathmatch mode. given that canonically, there are only 3 variants of Samus (original, Dark, SA-X), the 4th Samus seen in multiplayer must be superior to the others

[@bluecaptainIT]

It isn't, unless it t-poses for the entire match.

[@marcosolivarria9770]

To pile on the vereditct, Dark Samus is actually a Metroid so she would also have the biologic advantage over an X Parasite, not only being inmune to its infection but likely being able to consume it. On top of that DS has shown several instances where she's 100% inmune to all non-Phazon damage, in every instance Samus had to come up with a solution herself, realizing the Phazon Suit could use the Phazon Beam in Prime, using the Charge Beam to draw Phazon particles in Echoes and well, she already had the PED suit in Corruption; the SA-X not having a Phazon weapon and moving only on instinct would never be able to figure out how to do what Samus did, and even if it remembers that fight, DS would not make the same mistake.

[@Bullboy_Adventures]

If dark samus is a metroid, then how would it be immune to the cold?

[@BroadwayRonMexico]

@@Bullboy_Adventures Because of the effects of Phazon. There are Tallon Metroids that are immune to cold (3/4 of the Fission Metroids). Back when Dark Samus was Metroid Prime, its core essence was also immune to cold

[@horricule451]

I literally cannot see crocomire anymore without bursting into laughter because of this channel

[@danbal5494]

I love the detail of SAX having veins pulsating all over it's body, including the armor suit and arm cannon, as if the entire thing was one whole flesh suit.

[@justinpriebe6737]

Lets not forget the fact that dark samus is the metroid prime from the first prime game. While a mutated metroid, it is still a metroid nonetheless. Ultimately, the SA-X is still dark Samus' prey

[@heavyc4450]

Look it up the pal version of Metroid prime is canon compare to ntsc. Metroid prime isn't a actual Metroid. It a worm that fell with the meteor. It named Metroid prime cause Metroid other mean is ultimate warrior. So yes Metroid prime is A Metroid but not A Metroid made to kill X parasites.

[@liamdalemon1525]

Tell that to all the players who tried to 1v1 SA-X before getting the plasma beam!

[@EmpereurTom]

@@heavyc4450 Nope, it’s a real Metroid. Dark Samus can even create others Metroids.

[@syweb2]

@@heavyc4450 What are you talking about? Prime is a Metroid that ate the Leviathan core, as heavily implied by later versions of Prime 1.

[@ninjaraptor003]

I think it’s safer to assume they’d just fuse together to get rid of a common enemy

[@KyanbuXM]

Now that would make for a great final boss.

[@andrewaftontheandroidhedge2780]

@@KyanbuXM too bad genetics wise dark samus would try to eat SA-X

[@felynecomrade]

And our girl would still kick their wannabe ass.

[@TheUncivilizedNation]

@@andrewaftontheandroidhedge2780 unless SA-X can absorb Phazon like the actual Samus. A Dark SA-X (DS-X?) could happen would be a very dangerous threat to Dark Samus

[@andrewaftontheandroidhedge2780]

@@TheUncivilizedNation dark samus was made from phazon taking the phazon suit from samus

[@m.s.e.advanced2842]

Dark Samus would be fulfilling their original role as a metroid by destroying the SA-X

[@kirberburgy2073]

its so mutated by phazon that its not even a metroid anymore at this point

[@senounatsuru6453]

@@kirberburgy2073 Still at it's core a mutated metroid.

[@gulfgiggleanimations4472]

I feel like if they ever met they’d be at a bar all like “I really hate Samus ... Aran” and then they kiss and fuse like that one comic

[@V_SABITRON]

excuse me what comic

[@gulfgiggleanimations4472]

@@V_SABITRON It was a steven universe comic where two villains, eyeball (ruby) and aquamarine did this but were talking about how much they hate steven universe.

[@shadowsnake5133]

@@gulfgiggleanimations4472 and then that became cannon, kinda, so yay?

[@extremekiwi101]

What if we kissed due to our combined hatred of the universe’s greatest bounty hunter? 😳And we’re both evil clones😳

[@Genasidal]

I've seen this mentioned elsewhere in the comments but I think one element of Dark Samus that many often overlook is the fact that she herself is merely a Metroid. Which in itself gives her a massive edge over the SA-X. EVEN IF the SA-X is just as resilient as Dark Samus, we've seen how single-mindedly aggressive it gets in the presence of Metroids because of its default nature as an X Parasite. That's why it's so aggressive towards Samus and that's why it mindlessly shoots at the Metroids using what it perceives is its strongest attacks. In my head cannon, the SA-X sees Samus as just another Metroid that needs to be destroyed hense why it pursues her throughout the game. Dark Samus as stated is quite cunning and will often lead its victims into traps which benefit it. Further in Dark Samus' favour, unlike the SA-X, when Dark Samus had the advantage over Samus, her intentions were clearly not to kill her herself, although it's quite obvious she could've at the earlier stages of Prime 2. Similarly, Samus' Varia suit was comparatively useless against the power of Phazon, not just on a corruption level. If you notice, it damages her through the suit. If the SA-X was to have the same suit, her durability would mean noting to Dark Samus. The only wild card is what happens to the X upon phazon corruption. I'm assuming they're just as susceptible to it as everything else, but due to their nature as parasitic organisms, I could also imagine a scenario where the phazon itself could unintentionally strengthen the SA-X. At the very least? Mutate it. One final argument I pose in Dark Samus' favour that whilst not ever mentioned, is visibly shown multiple times in both games in both cutscenes and boss fights - she is incredibly fast with the ability to completely fly. Having movement superiority over the SA-X even without the ability to fly would make her incredibly difficult for such a brutish opponent like the SA-X. Plus, Dark Samus would not have to fear infection like Samus as Phazon itself is the most corruptible substance on the galaxy, meaning the likelihood of the X affecting Dark Samus is next to 0 (especially with her Metroid origin). These are my points I wanted to add to the video! I absolutely love both of these antagonists and the opening reveal to the SA-X in the Fusion elevator scene is honestly iconic and SO WELL done for so many reasons. Similarly, the personality shown through Dark Samus' interactions with her subtle yet clear motions makes her feel much more like a threatening rival to Samus with her own unique personality! I love them both for different reasons!!!

[@niclaswa5408]

Another game that did a good use of a double ganger was in Mega Man Zero 3. Before you fight him, it is revealed that *you* where the double ganger all along. You then later learn that you still has the heart and soul of the original, which motivates you to finally defeat him.

[@EmpereurTom]

Zero: I found you ! Faker ! Omega: Faker ? Ah ! You’re not even good enough to be my fake ! Zero: « TRIGGERED »

[@AlfonsoSRT]

Lmao double ganger loool

[@markvo250]

zero doesn't find fighting fun anymore, he's just a guy that Ioves adventure

[@hadesKIU]

Winner of the fight: Dark Samus Bigger Universal Threat: SA-X Seriously, the parts of Fusion that scared me the most weren't even the SA-X encounters themselves. There was the part where, about 30-90 minutes into the game and just after getting the hi-jump, it is stated several thousand X parasites invaded sector 4. The other horrifying part to me is when it was stated that 10 SA-X were in existence after the restricted lab was jettisoned. Something that easily (almost) kills Samus, can reproduce thousands of times an hour, and even factory produce one of the strongest versions of Samus ever seen? That's too broken for words to describe. I was genuinely questioning whether the metroid universe would come to an end by the late game of Fusion. I felt hopelessness to an extent that only the Submerged Castle from Pikmin 2 made me feel (in a video game.)

[@yehoshuas.6917]

Yeah. Dark Samus has intelligence, wants, and plans. The SA-X is a killing machine. Dark Samus might enslave the universe or seek infinite power, but she wouldn't just kill everything for no reason.

[@andrewaftontheandroidhedge2780]

@@yehoshuas.6917 plus dark samus has metroid dna in her sence she came from metroid prime aka the boss fight thing

[@Rb889]

Outstanding points. ETA: Seems to me it depend on scale and resources. Against a single SA-X, dark Samus would win handily, and devour the core X. Against an army of SA-X... Or even a squad of them, I think the SA-X would overwhelm dark Samus over time, and continue to multiply. There's also dark Samus' reliance on phazon to be considered, it seems to be a finite resource. While they are killing machines, the X do exhibit higher cognitive function at several points in Fusion, namely when they try to cause the BSL to meltdown, when a core X intercepts the varia suit data before Samus can acquire it, and when one SA-X tries to eliminate the metroids being studied.

[@martinrivera4850]

SA-X first it freezes you and then launches a super missile. SA-X acts just like Samus in Super Metroid when it comes to killing Metroids.

[@Skellotronix]

@@martinrivera4850 People seriously underestimate SA-X. Absorbing memories, skills, and physical abilities, could easily take down a Dark Samus; in SA-X's mind it already has taken down Dark Samus. Also 10+ SA-X acting independently would be extreme, especially against metroids or Dark Samus.

[@infinityzer054]

E.M.M.I:”murderer breathing” Stab...STAB THEM ALL! “Spider crawls away”

[@MrGrimm-eo5lc]

EMMI: *Beeps* Samus, Sa-X and Dark Samus: *Freezes up in Pure Fear*

[@archmagetyler]

@@MrGrimm-eo5lc actually… given the insane power of DS’S phazon beam and possibly her hyper missile adaptation, I wonder if it would survive? I’m certain that she could heat up it’s faceplates to their breaking point, but actually kill it… I do wonder.

[@abdelali9279]

Meanwhile, Ridley: Make science! Space pirate scientist: I have phazon, I have an X, ugh! Phazon-X!

[@doginthedark]

Oh no

[@Joost8910]

I got into the Metroid series at a very young age and still have nightmares about the SA-X to this day.

[@demianzarnoski3288]

the SA-X was presented in a much more terrifying and intimidating way thanks to Metroid Fusions way of storytelling, while Dark Samus seems like an omnipotent Dr. Manhatten-esque radioactice space witch in concept, but wheb i comes to facing her in battle... well

[@EmpereurTom]

Dark Samus is the main antagonist of a whole trilogy, SA-X isn’t even the final boss of it’s own game. Do you really want to start this debate ?

[@demianzarnoski3288]

@@EmpereurTom All I tried to say was that experiencing the SA-X was much more terrifying (to me) than facing Dark Samus.

[@EmpereurTom]

@@demianzarnoski3288 Because Dark Samus doesn’t try to be terrifying. You compare a Nemesis-type villain to a Mastermind-type villain, it’s kinda pointless. By the same logic, the EMMIs are some of the most « terrifying » enemies of the series despite being lackeys of the main antagonist of Metroid Dread.

[@demianzarnoski3288]

@@EmpereurTom Don't see your point. I never claimed Dark Samus wasn't scary at all. I simply shared the opinion that Metroid Fusion did a better job at confronting Samus with a dreadful doppelganger than Metroid Prime2/3. Dark Samus is definetely superior in other fields, but I was focusing on this one.

[@EmpereurTom]

@@demianzarnoski3288 Again, Dark Samus doesn’t try to be scary, so your point doesn’t make any sense. You want to start a debate where there is none in the first place. Dark Samus is a mastermind, a bad guy who last 3 wholes games to be defeated, while the SA-X is a Nemesis, an invincible opponent who exist only to be threatening until your character become powerful enough to kill it at the end of the game. If you want to compare the SA-X to another fearful villain, the EMMI is a way better choice than Dark Samus.

[@GanonGhidorah]

Also, SA-X probably has a problem with depth perception. In Fusion, when you have to run and eventually hide from it, the hiding spaces are so obvious that it is strange to consider why the SA-X gives up.

[@tdsgamer3887]

It's a 2002 game. the ai was stupid. now, if they remade sa x like the EMMI'S thats another whole story

[@lunatic0verlord10]

I have my own answer: Dark Samus used to be the eponymous Metroid Prime, she has Metroid DNA in her. This makes her the SA-X's natural predator. So once she's reduced to a Core X, Dark Samus can just eat her.

[@bestaround3323]

But could she reduce SA-X to its core? Better yet could they do it before the SA-X multiples?

[@alternatecheems8145]

another point for sa-x is that she can use all of samus's abilities which she used to defeat dark samus

[@Nathanielgbo1]

@@alternatecheems8145 there is a problem with that... Dark Samus was only vulnerable to Samus's weaponry due to a lack of phazon. Every time they return after consuming phazon, they become more resilient. Towards the end of the final battle in Echoes, they gain immunity to all of Samus's weaponry and can only be damaged by phazon infused attacks. As of Prime 3, Dark Samus has consumed enough phazon to stabilize herself and can't actually be harmed by SA-X due to a lack of phazon infused weaponry. To make matters worse, scans in Prime 3 state that Dark Samus gained the abilities of the 3 bounty hunters when she ate them. Dark Samus has Ghor's Plasma beam...

[@Nathanielgbo1]

@CRIMNALSNEAK Against Prime 3 Dark Samus, I'm convinced that the 10 Sa-X would open fire, deal no damage, then flee like the blue X after you get the Varia suit in fusion.

[@5h0ckblock]

@CRIMNALSNEAK Maybe if she was fighting early dark samus. However at her most powerful Dark Samus could only be damaged by a hyper bean which is created from phazon energy. Timeline wise all phazon was destroyed long before sa-x came into existence(unless MP4 retcons this) This means that the only weapon capable of defeating dark samus no longer exist.

[@idonotknow9257]

Sa-X's real name: *s a x o p h o n e*

[@squeenixu]

Honestly your art (or whoever did them) is absolutely amazing

[@MetroidTrainer]

Love ur take on this 👍

[@jetstreamwinds6072]

this comment needs a heart

[@TheOrpheon]

Ill just say, great minds think alike ;)

[@IamCanadian3333]

"Why didn't the SA-X use the Ice Beam on any on the metroids on the BSL?" One theory I've seldom seen before is that those Metroids were actually "unfreezable ones" similar to the Bottle Ship ones in Other M, seeing as how it seems a few of the specimens that were on the Bottle Ship were seemingly transferred to the BSL station. Also regardless, SA-X could have also deemed it a losable fight, and instead was willing to sacrifice itself to ensure the destruction of the Metroids for the good of the X race. We see this concept earlier when the X nearly destroyed the BSL station earlier in the game by attempting to overload it's reactor, as a means to kill Samus, because of the threat to their race they saw her as, thereby protecting their brethren on SA-X. (we of course know this ultimately proved true as by the end of the game both the BSL and SR-388 were destroyed thanks to Samus, thereby ending the X threat...for now).

[@gothicbutterfly013]

And, at that point they had absorbed a scientist and thus knew that sections of the lab were automatically jettisoned and self-destructed if they took too much damage. Note that the SA-X in the secret lab didn't attack any of the metroids directly but was instead blindly firing as much as it could before being taken out by the metroids: it was targeting *the sector itself* to take them down with it. And, they were likely planning it and just waiting for Samus to open the door for them, since it needs something not infected for them to undo the security locks. They were probably hoping Samus would be trapped in the lab too and eliminate all the metroids in one swoop, but she managed to escape.

[@NUGGet-3562]

dude those footsteps at the end of the video fREAKED ME OUT

[@ThrillingDuck]

Great video. Also, this is just speculation but I don't think infecting Dark Samus is really an option for the X-Parasites even if they could somehow withstand the Phazon radiation because underneath the Phazon Suit, Dark Samus is Metroid Prime....a Metroid. Natural predator of the X. I imagine that if the X were to attempt to infect her it would basically just be like when they "infect" Fusion Suit Samus - they'd just be absorbed and heal her.

[@ZekromRocks]

Loving the Battle Network/Starforce music in the background!

[@TheOrpheon]

I love the ost too much to not add it, that and Vandham would make me do more push ups

[@NeiyonSpyder]

I remember when you had this idea in the backburner. Glad to see it finally come to fruition. This did give me a clearer idea about how the SA-X could stand a chance against Dark Samus

[@TheMissingLink2]

I played both the Prime series and Fusion. All I'm saying is that Dark Samus/Metroid Prime survived 3 damn games before Samus killed it for good.On the other hand Samus was so terrified of the X, she wouldn't even let Fusion get a sequel.🤣 But seriously, Samus let Dark Samus escape TWICE. Seriously, she DIDN'T deliver the killing blow to Metroid Prime nor did she deliver that blow to Dark Samus at the end of Prime 2. However in Fusion, she literally crashed the entire B.S.L. research station into SR-388 in an effort to eradicate not only the X on the research station but all of them entirely, sacrificing the entire planet. Phazon is very dangerous. But its affects can be slowed, contained, or even prevented. But there's literally no stopping the X EXCEPT with Metroids. But an X mimicking Samus is the most dangerous thing of all BECAUSE it has weapons that can kill Metroids, and it knows how to use them too. What people seem to forget is that Samus is part Metroid thanks to the vaccine. This is why the X aggressively attack her. They can sense the Metroid in her. So not only does the SA-X have the advantage in weapons and also Samus' memories; it also has firsthand experience fighting a Metroid infused being, that being Samus on multiple occasions (along with actual Metroids too). The X KNOW Metroids are vulnerable to the cold, this is why the X WILLINGLY adapt to the cold temperatures of Sector 5 knowing Samus will absorb them in order to kill her. This is also why the SA-X uses the ice beam and super missiles on Samus as it knows the best way to kill a Metroid is by freezing it and blowing it up with Super Missiles. Sure, Dark Samus at this point is some sort of abomination rather than a pure Metroid. However, the SA-X is quite literally full powered Samus from the end of Super Metroid with no moral compass. Honestly, the SA-X has a GREAT chance of coming out on top.

[@jusquanorthwind1016]

While I wish the SA-X would win, the biggest problem comes from the fact it took the Phazon beams to even damage Dark Samus, so unless the SA-X could obtain one somehow, which I doubt that Dark Samus would allow them the leeway to, then the SA-X can’t even hurt Dark Samus… :/

[@EmpereurTom]

You said it, it took 3 games to Samus to defeat Dark Samus, while only one was enough to get rid of the SA-X. Not only that, but the SA-X wasn’t even the final boss of it’s own game, instead it was a simple Omega Metroid, the same one who defeated the SA-X quite easily. Dark Samus, at the end of Prime 3, no weapons were useful against her except Phazon, and Samus needed to destroy a whole planet to kill her for good. And of course, being a Metroid, Dark Samus has a natural advantage against the SA-X. The SA-X can’t beat Dark Samus, literally, it can’t.

[@perfumedgnat9659]

The SA-X doesnt have the phazon beam required to damage dark samus, though it might be able to absorb some of the phazon dna and obtain the phazon beam in a roundabout way, but that risks it becoming another dark Samus, and SA-X knows it. Even if dark samus doesnt have enough phazon to become immune to damage in the neutral arena, the ice beam/super missile combo WOULD NOT WORK on dark Samus, because it uses the phazon suit, which is a variant of the gravity suit, which nullifies the effects of all cold sources

[@AscendedHaven]

@@perfumedgnat9659 phazon doesn’t have dna

[@323starlight]

I should make a correction. Dark Samus isn’t an incarnation of phazon. She is the Metroid Prime from the end of Prime 1. She bonded with Samus’ phazon suit and was saved from the Impact Crater’s collapse thanks to the last pool of phazon. Spends Prime 2 absorbing Phazon in order to become strong and take revenge on Samus, then in Prime 3 seeks to bring down all that Samus holds dear by taking control of the space pirates, taking control of Phaaze, and using it to turn all of Federation controlled space into copies of Phaaze. If you think about it, the first Metroid Prime trilogy has been a grand scale battle between Samus and the Metroid Prime.

[@GRAND_YAWN]

It only took 7 months but my video idea finaly got made😃

[@BradenBest]

"Dark Samus is a hivemind but SA-X have a mind of their own so they'd be less coordinated" The X-parasite _is_ a hivemind though. Throughout Fusion, SA-X isn't the only thing hunting you. The entire _ecosystem_ is hunting you, even making calculated moves like having X-forms go to the ARC sector to create cold X-forms to freeze Samus. Not only that, but they managed to take control of mechanical systems like the security robot and, ostensibly, Nightmare.

[@SSKJ64]

The reason that SA-X just kept shooting the Metroids with Super Missiles was because the Metroids are its natural predator, which caused it to freak out and go nuts

[@micopen6719]

Oh! I was just prepared to watch a 15 minute long Ace Attorney Case, that was just the intro

[@bopobodachocobo]

My brother and I have had this argument for years and now it's finally been answered. Thank you also the poyo at the end

[@BorgztheDutchCyborg]

It's simple: one is a Metroid, the other is Metroid food.

[@residentevilplayer877]

Crocomire is back was he in space college? And I have to say it. YAY!😆👍

[@TheOrpheon]

He still there, just called for witness

[@JackStache]

One note is that the X-Parasite is very intelligent It was smart enough to absorb ice into some individual parasites and actively attack Samus before she'd gained an immunity. And every time SA-X actively saw Samus, the first reaction was to use Ice Beam As far as I know, using the Super Missiles against the Metroids was mostly to destroy that part of the facility itself and force Samus to escape the area

[@Mrperson0]

Another thing is if this Dark Samus is the same as the one at the end of Prime 3, there's no way the SA-X would even be able to harm her due to the lack of a PED suit. Also, one thing you left out is Dark Samus was originally a Metroid. With that DNA, she would be able just absorb the SA-X.

[@GamersIntel]

This video was awesome homie! HELLA loved the intro too XD

[@eldani007]

Man Crocomire is clearly your favorite character

[@abdelali9279]

14:08 He did it, he said the thing!

[@Chaos89P]

I figured that Dark Samus would either sic a Phazon Metroid at the SA-X, or get act like a Metroid herself and consume the Core.

[@datacraver7654]

I'd like to point out that dark Samus needs to absorb more phazon to use her stronger abilities.

[@JDgiggles]

Raven Beak finding out about Dark Samus then quickly discovering that she was destroyed: "oh well that's just dandy!"

[@trainershade1937]

I'd say Dark Samus wins in pretty much every scenario, though this is mostly when considering her Prime 3 version and is also not going too crazy into the SA-X's self replication (as theoretically, you could just have thousands of SA-X dogpile Dark Samus). Despite how powerful Samus's gear is, we have to acknowledge just how overpowered Phazon really is when weaponized, Hyper mode in Corruption is a borderline "I win" button after all. Even when you acknowledge the SA-X's core X, I'd say it's rather cut in stone the outcome. Once exposed to Phazon, the X would either be obliterated from the radiation, or corrupted into a lifeform that serves Phazon. It's kind of a similar reason as to why the X are rather hopeless against Metroids. If an X tries to assimilate a Metroid, it just gets absorbed. If an X tries to assimilate Phazon, it gets exposed to Phazon.

[@lolschrauber]

I think Dark Samus could've had more potential if she could actually use the red phazon which we never saw again after the end of the first prime.

[@Legacy309]

Dark Samus is part Metroid, isn't she? That's why I believe SA-X couldn't infect her

[@XWNORST]

I mean dark samus was born from a metroid and the SA-X is clearly still afraid of metroids, and at the end of the day dark samus could probably eat just eat the SA-X

[@Smexbi]

I know all of this is just specutlation, but I don't think it would be that simple. Metroid Prime is a highly mutated Metroid. Metroids are known for absorbing the life force out of living being, which seems to be the way how they eat Xs. However, Metroid Prime, no matter what form, shows any such kind of abilities. I don't say DArk Samus couldn't eat SA-X, I'm just saying it's probably not an easy answer.

[@Cri_Jackal]

@@Smexbi eating and assimilating other beings is quite literally what Dark Samus does to the other hunters in Prime 3. She directly copies Ghor's plasma beam, Gandrayda's floaty ground pound that sends out an energy wave, and summons pillars of icy phazon the same way Rundas would summon ice pillars.

[@XWNORST]

Smexbi, yes he has shown abilities to absorb powers? How does he become dark samus? Lol? Also he clearly can adapt to new things as while the pirates were studying it and experimenting on it, he grew more powerful and stole their weapons, his entire fuckin plot point is stealing and adapting, he was as smart while as metroid prime as he is as dark samus, I appreciate your speculation but I do actually have quite a solid basis for my theory

[@connormcnulty6377]

Dark Samus and the SA-X: *Arguing.* Everyone else in the courtroom:

[@TheLegendofMetroid94]

Awesome New video! I always enjoy your content!

[@bananolo8468]

Video: starts with an Ace Attorney parody Me: *Like*

[@kamakuragaming]

The "Just in time" joke just never fails to make me laugh lmao

[@SpanishSebas]

The X Parasite also works like a hive mind to a certain degree. While the infected retain the knowledge and memories of their victims, all the parasites work towards a common goal: infect more hosts, gain more power and knowledge... And reproduce as much as possible. While 2 SA-X might have independent thoughts from each other, they would probably join forces in order to kill or infect Dark Samus.

[@kinguskrewus]

Loved that Ace Attorney like intro, good stuff!

[@coldfirecreative8028]

Dark Samus would be safe from the X parasite. It's a metroid at its core. Heavily altered due to the phazon, the pirate experiments, and absorbing of the Phazon suit, but still a metroid.

[@krispee5842]

To be honest, I kinda want a Metroid game where you play as the Samus clone. If I had to come up with details for it, then I guess it would start off as usual: Samus goes to yet another planet to investigate something strange on it. She finds out something has gone terribly wrong (as usual) and has to fight off many alien lifeforms (this might be a 2 or 3 part game depending on how far the creator wants to stretch the story (of course without the Part X suffix to keep players from guessing the plot too easily) depending on how far the creator wants to stretch the story) including several bosses. Some bosses later in the game however, will already be defeated, and some items will have already been taken. The only clue as to who had done these things is a green goo. After the final boss, Samus will head back to her ship to notify whoever hired her and have a well deserved rest. In the second part, Samus wakes up on the floor of one of the boss rooms with a green (can be any color) substance surrounding her as well as sticking to her suit. This goo had also been seen in the first part, but not as much and only near places where certain enemies were killed. She has the exact same weaponry and memories from when she defeated the boss of the room (not the final boss of the previous game), so she grabs a sample of the green goo and continues on with her previous mission. This time, Samus goes a different route due to blocked doors and other hindrances. She gets to fight all the bosses that were defeated before Samus came in the previous game (and some new ones) as well as take the items that weren't there before. This time however, she notices that she heals from the green goo and gains some of the abilities of the bosses she kills as long as they have green goo. She also bruises and bleeds a pale green in certain cut-scenes where she's injured, leading her to believe she's infected with a new virus. Samus decides to go back to her ship since she can't seem to solve the problem and is only finding more problems. On the way up however, she meets herself with all the weapons and armor from the previous game, and assuming the other Samus is a clue to the planet's problems, a battle against yourself occurs. After the battle ends, the other Samus retreats deeper into the hive(?) and this Samus continues her route upward to communicate what happened to her superior(s). When she gets back however, she is unable to access her ship and is forced to stay at a nearby home to send the message. Samus learns that she is now weak to water when she tries to clean some of her injuries. Instead of the usual cleaning pains, the water gives a piercing and sharp pain wherever it touches and only makes her wounds worse. Samus then decides to go back into the labyrinth(?) to find the source of her infection and hopefully the planet's problems. The areas where Samus had been in previously are now starting to host green goo. Closer to the boss room Samus woke up in at the beginning of the game, some green goo looks like it's trying to become. . . something. If she enters the boss room, she sees a green and almost humanoid blob react in a non hostile way to her presence. She can absorb it for a health boost and extra missiles (any other goo only restores health and ammo). Deeper in, the strange goo becomes less prevalent, and the normal enemies begin to pop up again. Down here, Samus meets other Samus again (with new weapons too), but this time other Samus curses in a teen friendly manner when in a bad position. This causes our Samus to believe other Samus might be an intelligent clone, but just as she's about to ask questions, other Samus escapes again. Samus follows other Samus this time, and ends up passing through rooms with dead bosses in them and empty item rooms. At some point, she comes into contact with the green goo and its spawned creatures again, but from this level and below, it's very hostile (can still absorb). After defeating the slowly increasing number of goo enemies, Samus battles other Samus and some words are exchanged during the battle such as: "What are you?" and "What's your goal?" Samus learns very much about other Samus during the battle, but the battle ends with her fatally injured. "Why?" Samus asks. The real Samus replies, "You did more damage than you thought (or something along those lines)." The character you've been playing as the whole game dies, and Samus takes the items, samples, and a few new samples directly from the dead clone (unfortunately, the body has to stay for both obvious and less obvious reasons). Samus then restates (new knowledge to the player) her goal: "I need to find the source of the green goo." (something like that). A few more bosses will get the player used to the real Samus's items and powers (Samus cannot use powers gained by goo infected boss monsters, only item and armor substitutes/addons)(an amiibo can be used to gain all goo powers here) before the final boss fight against the origin(?) of the goo. After the battle, a cut-scene will occur where goes back to the body, visits the nearby town, then leaves. Depending on how fast the player got through the areas and bosses, the cut-scene changes. If completed quickly, the body is still there, and Samus can bring it to her ship. If completed at a leisurely pace, then the body will be mostly swallowed by the hostile green goo, and Samus might say something like, "She was a great mercenary. . . just made of the wrong stuff." (something like that). Afterward, the cut-scene continues on like normal, but without the body of the fake Samus. Then the game ends. Afterward: The entire idea behind playing as fake Samus is that I want you, the player, to love her just as much if not more than the real one. The problem is, a lot of my ideas feel like they would work extremely well in a Metroid Prime style even though I was mostly ending up in the traditional 2d Metroid style in my head. I want a town bustling with people for more story content, but in order to do so in 2d, I'd have to compromise a bit. A few other ideas conflict with each other, like if the game is Prime-like, then the reflection might show some green in certain scenarios, but if the game is more traditional, then the cut-scenes won't have to awkwardly switch from first person to third then back. Also, the creator could make a manga based on the real Samus's side of the story. That and the amiibos could make a lot of money.

[@d20revolt57]

I love your intros, dude. And props to your use of the MMBN OST.

[@TheOrpheon]

Thanks it means a lot. Sometimes I dont get much feedback so Im happy to hear the ‘cold intros’ are to your liking. I LOVE MMBN, probs one of my fave games ever

[@markvo250]

sf music too

[@Dr.Pootis]

0:53 I could easily see Samus canonically saying this in Dread with she's just 400% done with everything in it.

[@TheUncivilizedNation]

If Metroid Suit Samus absorbs Phazon then would Samus would become the new Metroid Prime? If so then Samus is blatantly superior in Dread. Also the Metroid Suit quite literally annihilate the SA-X to in one touch so…

[@justingoble4980]

I missed you, super excited for this video. I need those memes you use lol

[@TheOrpheon]

Dont worry, I already finished new scripts and will record the voice soon! This one took a bit longer due to a lot of stuff happening in my end, but im always working for you guys

[@justingoble4980]

@@TheOrpheon awesome! That’s great to hear!

[@hailhydreigon2700]

The SA-X's mutated form is a giant Hornoad. The one that Samus killed at the beginning of Metroid 4. That's why it just jumps around.

[@DP3com]

Ace Attorney intro for the win! Instant like/thumb up. Also, I agree on the outcome.

[@killeing]

.. i never once thought about this but MAN this is a great fight matchup!

[@dr.frankenstonk7603]

I would say since Dark Samus is technically a metroid, I think she'd just EAT the core X parasyte.

[@quadvox8822]

An ad happened as soon as it cut to crocomire and I lost my shit

[@eggburger5978]

Ayyy there we go new vid

[@sirkurahale7307]

Another thing to mention is Dark Samus is a possible iteration of Metroid Prime. As it steals the Phazon Suit from Samus at the end of the game. Its never explicitly stated but implied. That being said the SA-X would likely not be able to infect Dark Samus with her metroid DNA, the same way they can not re-infect Samus in fusion. further securing Dark Samus as the victor.

[@kaiserknuckle9261]

damn it Albert why must you scare me with those footsteps

[@UnseenGriffin]

Great work on this.

[@accywacky2699]

The main argument I would raise against the conclusions of this vid is that the X parasites are clearly intelligent, able to plan and strategize as a whole. However they do NOT have some kind of instantaneous telepathic communication or the like. Case in point: early on in fusion the x parasites deliberately try to ram Samus after their hosts are destroyed, thinking that they can simply infect her... It takes a while for them to realize and word to get around that.. No man, that one Eats Us. Stay Away. Then later on they create the cold x variation as a possible counter against Samus, and Those cold-x once again try to deliberately ram Samus... They even continue to do this for a while after you aquire a suit that lets you ignore their chill and absorb them with ease again... Only after a good while do they once more figure out that the gig is up and abandon this strategy, causing cold-x to flee from Samus when able. We also generally see the X actively work semi-independently but cooperatively to infest and spread themselves throughout the station, presumably making use of SA-X's ability to plan and execute the initial attacks from the storage bay and rapidly acquiring information about the station and how it works from infested scientists and staff. In the beginning they attempt to balance an approach of obtaining more species and data from the various biomes with their goal of eliminating fusion-samus since she's the only substantial threat to the x parasites themselves. Over time though, probably as they aquire more and more minds, particularly that of Ridley, that they begin to grasp just HOW big a threat Samus is to the X as a species, and start using tactics like just blowing the whole damn station up long as it takes her out too (with there being more x on the planet below in their natural habitat). What I try to point at is that the X do not seem like they operate on some all-knowing instant-transmission type hive mind, individual host-x will try their own things based on what their host is capable of and that host's knowledge and personality which means an intelligent host = more intelligent plots and schemes by the X but the communication and sharing of ideas/intelligence is not instant. Most notably at the end of Fusion, the station is about to blow up and Samus is battling a hostile, mature metroid (not an x parasite obviously), and getting her ass kicked because she lacks a crucial upgrade.. A SA-X joins the fight at a crucial moment, engaging not Samus but the metroid in question and, when the metroid defeats the SA-X, pretty much just hangs there and Lets fusion-Samus absorb it for a powerup needed to win and escape the station. The video critiques the SA-X earlier in the game for firing super missiles all over rather than using its ice beam against the metroids in that section of the station... But I would argue that its goal was not to kill off or freeze the metroids.. but to damage the station section enough that the station safety measures eject and auto-destruct that whole section, killing off all the metroids in there in one swoop. The SA-X at the scene was on a literal suicide mission and personal survival was never its goal. Thus I posit that the SA-X is Every bit able to draw upon the memories and knowledge of not only Samus, but any x-parasites that have acquired knowledge from other hosts and conveyed this to the SA-X in question and the Dark Samus should not be considered to have a decisive advantage in this regard, quite the opposite really since its perfectly possible that the SA-X could emulate not just Samus's memories and fighting instincts but even her spirit to the point of making that self-sacrificial move that one did at the end of Fusion. That kind of move or even the willingness/ability to make such a choice is also not something the Dark Samus would likely see coming should it come down to a mutual destruction tactic. The rules of the duel kind of seem to have been applied unevenly against the SA-X and X in general, since it seems to assume the SA-X gets dropped into an arena with no prep nor time to replicate but the Dark Samus is apparently loaded with a full tank of Phason And an environment from which to freely draw phason to keep using its powers? I mean, yes Dark Samus can use phason stuff without harm to itself, but it still needs to draw/generate phason from somewhere. Ergo I'd argue that if it starts making phase clones and/or spamming a lot of the more high end moves it used during the later boss battles... it'll probably run low on juice sooner rather than later and the SA-X is nothing if not relentless. Hence why I think the duel as given should not so easily be given to Dark Samus for all the reasons mentioned so far. On the flip side, if we where to give both sides time to prep and letting them fight in a beneficial environment... SA-X would have a small force or even an army of itself to bring to bear in relatively little time... The Fusion game took place well within one day after all. While Dark Samus would have, at best, an area stocked up with phason energy it can pull on to spam its more powerful moves and maybe some mutated minions. But end of the day a single normal Samus was enough to beat Dark Samus in those conditions while either Not as powered up as one SA-X would be or while on timers or other conditions that made the battles harder. Meanwhile if Samus had to somehow handle 10-50 SA-X all at the same time.. weeeeell... I think we all know how that battle would end, unless Samus could run away somehow obviously. All that said, was a fun video :)

[@marley.hendrix]

Plot twist; SA-X and Dark Samus become besties and work together to try to fuck Samus up.

[@epic4624]

If faison is the galaxy's most radioactive substance, then it would have a half-life of less than one 10th of a second. So it wouldn't be very radioactive for long

[@Decade_1703]

0:52 'To me you are both clearly inferior.' Savage Samus as always.

[@soldierofgodrick3037]

I just got an ace attorney ad right before this video with the ace attorney intro

[@derbeak545]

Finally! A worthy battle!

[@Nestlequick1000]

I'd watch a whole series in that opening format. Such a great crossover.

[@crashmasterj0837]

I wonder if dark samus would have access to the logbook. She would have essentially the guide to use the suit.

[@syweb2]

10:45 The SA-X at the very least uses usual Metroid-fighting protocol against Samus herself - ice beam to freeze them, and then unload missiles into them. The restricted Zone moment was probably due to panic at _oh shit I'm surrounded by my natural predator there's so many of them,_ probably lapsing into a more basic fight-or-flight response. 11:28 She never says "mindless," only a "killing machine" and "heartless".

[@Amifka86]

Using music from Bomberman 64: TSA = an immediate sub. Nice video!

[@myleswelnetz6700]

It’s a Metroid vs. an X parasite.

[@ryannakao7265]

stupidly enough, 3 things came to my mind. 1. Dark samus cannot be infected with the parasites 2. Dark samus is technically a metroid with samus' genetic information 3. The metroid suit from dread would be immune to the phazon from the prime series

[@user-zv5vx4sn2b]

Crocomire makes me smile every time

[@SeanNH94]

11:37 this is my headcanon voice for phantoon now

[@SeanNH94]

@Wilson Nascimento just casually murdering the chill fellows so I can also murder their boss (:

[@TeamDragoonX]

Another edge dark samus has.... she's a metroid, a natural predator of the X

[@daneyal7162]

Samus is so popular in the galaxy, that the two most dangerous species are trying to copy her... 🤣

[@firenze6478]

Dark samus: not only are her feats far superior but she is also at her core a metroid which makes her immune to x possession and she could likely corrupt the x and make them her slaves. Also sa-x was only a true threat to a severely weakened samus.

[@Cricket101382]

That's a very phallic arm cannon you got there SA-X

[@Phantasmeels]

10:26 The madman skipped the long beam, damn

[@floydwilliams2414]

I want to see the SA-X and Metroid Prime fuse together.

[@adambrumovsky3982]

Is not going to work the Metroid Prime is is more stronger than her plus Metroid Prime can also immune to x if it's in his final form for both of them only requires Phazon suit for SA-X to beat Metroid Prime in Core essence form will snatch both Phazon suit & SA-X at the same time if she reverted to her core x form she still going to get absorb by Metroid Prime

[@BrandDude24]

After playing all the Battle Network and Star Force games, it was so hard to concentrate on the video. Your music selection for these videos is top notch! That intro was very funny and just hearing the footsteps in the outro made me skip a beat but lol Anyways, the idea of SA-X vs Dark Samus never crossed my mind and those hypotheticals towards the end of the video about what would happen if the X Parasite interacted with Phazon are very interesting to speculate about. But in the end, makes more sense if Dark Samus wins. She possesses higher intelligence and almost equal firepower. Great video as always!