For anyone who wants to try themself, soul level 30 in the farron swamp with plus 3 weapons/plus 1 special weapons is just a nonstop party. Had the silliest time the past couple weeks it feels like the good old days.
@SkyfromLa2 ай бұрын
DS three invasions are peak from software
@Nobody329902 ай бұрын
DS2. DS3 was begging of the end with giving invasion priority to people with phantoms and single invasion zone.
@LeonardoRodrigues-uj1sm2 ай бұрын
DS3 invasions were the worst things ever. I'd rather stick with DS2s
@ChuckFinelyForever2 ай бұрын
@@LeonardoRodrigues-uj1smI’d rather lick paint than touch DS2 again but everyone’s got their preferences
@wiselyx2 ай бұрын
@@ChuckFinelyForever he is the talking about invasions dawg 💀 but yeah ds2 is something else lmao 🤣🤣
@wickedcheeseburger74272 ай бұрын
@@Nobody32990 DS2 pvp is great but soul memory is such a horrible mechanic it almost ruins it.
@_Debu2 ай бұрын
first guys name being "blind pt" and having grass crest shield with twinblades wearing all fallen knight set is very funny imo.
@LyllianaofMirrah2 ай бұрын
is the default kevin style
@matuese12852 ай бұрын
10/10 meme char
@bascvegobekli3548Ай бұрын
White masks of ds3
@devich982 ай бұрын
brings me back to watching saint_riot back in like 2018. Great video!
@valianttoast18222 ай бұрын
Here’s to miyazaki making a multiplayer focused game in the next couple of years🍺
@scragglie2 ай бұрын
honestly, thats the last thing i want. fromsoft has no idea how to balance a videogame anymore, i have absolutely ZERO faith in their ability to make a functioning online multiplayer game.
@kimlee66432 ай бұрын
@@scragglie Very good point, actually. Expecting the devs that put an instantaneous incantation in ER to balance anything around skill expression is kinda foolish.
@xMeme_X_Lordx2 ай бұрын
@@scragglie I can’t speak for AC. But all of the soulsborne games have been poorly balanced.
@Elden_Cock_Ring2 ай бұрын
DS3 is the game for me where they struck an almost perfect balance for me between the flashiness of the gameplay while having it be mechanically sound There are flashy mechanics/moves/skills in the game, but they aren't so flash that it just becomes visual vomit on the screen The main problem I have with DS3's PvP is the fact that you can't invade in certain areas after a player defeats the area's boss (at least I believe that's the case, but I could be mistaken); This problem is compounded even more in an open-world game like Elden Ring where there are field bosses, but I still wish they would stop restricting invasions if a boss is defeated Also, DS3 has the best soundtrack
@Crit-Multiplier2 ай бұрын
it's an anti ganking mechanic.
@SecretMarsupial2 ай бұрын
Yeah the soundtrack is probably froms best
@Zoesie.2 ай бұрын
Oh btw if you want a consistent parry option, try blocking the first swing and then parry the backswing. 60% of the time it works 100% of the time
@aytuzАй бұрын
iron round shield in main hand.exe
@kormana2 ай бұрын
after looking at ds3 pvp its kinda baffling why elden ring dropped or messed up most of the pvp stuff, they should have at least kept covenants and their invading requirements, literally just more depth and fun to the game
@eldenlean52212 ай бұрын
At first there was a lot of speculation about the lack of covenants in ER, but miyazaki put those to rest in a recent interview where he confirmed that it was because they wanted to simplify multiplayer as much as possible. They tought new players would get confused by covenants lmao
@LyllianaofMirrah2 ай бұрын
@@eldenlean5221 and disable solo invasion smh
@YoMilbert2 ай бұрын
@@eldenlean5221 Because honestly it is confusing, the only reason it isn't confusing to us now is because of how much exposure we got to it. Imagine answering questions on mechanics/conditions and rewards for all the covenants being somewhat new and without using the wiki. Add to that how some covenant rewards are virtually dead due to the lack of inactivity, so your options are sit afk for 3/4 of the time or farm an npc drop. I very much miss the rewards and the flavor of the covenants, but not so much the covenant mechanics.
@YoMilbert2 ай бұрын
Also maybe this was answered in an interview or something, but I mostly suspect the solo invasions were removed to make sure that co-opers got all the invader "punishment" traffic. Just really unfortunate what that means for invading as a whole, and if true why no dual invaders? Maybe net/lag concerns.
@eldenlean52212 ай бұрын
@@YoMilbert for sure, they could defenetly streamline more the mechanics of covenants to make them more assecible, they could have improved a ton of things instead of removing them entirely.
@GehrmanFromBloodborne2 ай бұрын
I'm playing fromsoft games like for years and after i loved ds3 invasions, when i tried elden ring invasions... I was shocked how annoying it is, i agree with you btw
@Carian_Inspector27 күн бұрын
Ds3 is always nice to come back to. Recently found your channel, good stuff dude!
@shapshane82412 ай бұрын
4:07 ER shortsword and DS3 lothric knight's sword both have the r2 r2 pokes
@LeonardoRodrigues-uj1sm2 ай бұрын
Lots of the points in the video talks about stuffs that are in ER too, lol.
@shapshane82412 ай бұрын
@@LeonardoRodrigues-uj1sm im not saying anything, just that ER has the r2 r2 pokes too, and ds3 has 2 swords not one with r2 r2 pokes
@Pat_Mc_GarryАй бұрын
I wish the ER DLC added a straight sword with that heavy attack string, at least one...
@tianm740Ай бұрын
True. I bet he chose shortsword because the stat requirements are lower
@LeonardoRodrigues-uj1sm2 ай бұрын
DS3 was the souls game with the most amount of gank invasions, the only reason ppl are getting solo invasions now in 2024 is because the game is low on activity. It was even worse than ER's gank invasions. If you want to invade with cool covenants, good pvp and activity. Try DS2
@HellMakerY2 ай бұрын
Such a good feeling watchin honest invasions on low SL, think i got rot after all meta shit of ds3
@scungillimane2 ай бұрын
I just wish this game weren't full of exploits around different animation cancels and things obviously not intended (aka estus cancelling, animation cancelling with ringed knight sword and black knight shield, unbalanced things like the murky hand scythe, etc.) at almost every higher level of play. I genuinely do miss solo host invasions and having so many mechanics and covenants allowing invaders to pick and choose what and where they wanted activity; I know a lot of people seem to enjoy the "challenge" of always getting 3v1 ganks in every single invasion in Elden Ring, but I can't relate. Hopefully their next title doesn't fall in line with the gradual design philosophy of fromsoft's games catering to casuals who despise pvp to the point where they'd rather uninstall than deal with the Bad Red Man.
@Crit-Multiplier2 ай бұрын
but what you seem to ignore is the fact that youre a casual invader. the game was made for hardcore invaders and you lash out on casuals while invasions are too hardcore? ok beo
@xClownpiece2 ай бұрын
i get what you’re saying but elden ring is what happens when fromsoft appeals to the casual side (dozens of dozens of broken shit that’s intended, and horrible fundamental mechanics) personally i loved almost everything about ds3 pvp minus some summoning mechanics and overtuned weapons
@scungillimane2 ай бұрын
@@Crit-Multiplier you right, I should be forced to embrace exploits and things that were patched out of elden ring like estus cancelling or I'm a "casual invader" my fault
@gaypudding23152 ай бұрын
Elden Ring has way more unbalanced/glitched stuff. And even just normal ganks are way harder to beat. In DS3 you can at least fight them head on, you're not constantly running away to wait for an opening.
@LyllianaofMirrah2 ай бұрын
the glitches should've been patched 2 years ago. but the fact that they did not bother and only focuses on ELDEN RING is fucking sad for me
@able.35662 ай бұрын
One thing i really love about ds3 that ER is plagued with is that ds3 doesn't drop your inputs. You have to meet very specific conditions for ds3 to do that while ER does it randomly in the middle of the action when inputs are applied too fast. Like FromSoft seriously, fix this issue, your game PvE wise is centered around some pretty fast bosses and it shines its rear in the DLC. This has very rarely been an issue in the previous titles.
@macdaddytv26822 ай бұрын
Ds3 my love ❤ these clips from the cathedral invasions give me so much memories…. There will never be a game like ds3 again 😢
@nemsio6652 ай бұрын
Peak invasions in all the series youve got a new sub dude !
@SpinalGT17 күн бұрын
I've played the hell out of DS3 invasions and ganks, I loved it, there were some 3 hit true combos, magic+sword combos, there weren't too many spell spams.. Game was great.
@ianwilliams26322 ай бұрын
Of course it's better than Elden Ring. Lore, writing, voice acting, music, PVP. ALL OF IT.
@LyllianaofMirrah2 ай бұрын
ELDEN RING Lore Is wack, Fia sleeping and have Sex with Champions and suck their vigor dry til they were skeletons. Marika and Radagon essentially have a relation with pretty much themselves. Rellana leave all her royalty to simp for Messmer? and the "Marika's Tits you must be Hungry"
@TheCohesiveGarage2 ай бұрын
Thank you for this. Its how I feel as well.
@aytuzАй бұрын
recently came back to ds3 because I got bored of elden ring, made a sl 54 char and having more fun than i ever have in Elden. Nice vid!
@tomalbert76242 ай бұрын
I agree so much, I came back to darksouls 3 after beating elden ring's DLC and the multiplayer experience is just so good
@garadje26232 ай бұрын
DaS3 PvP is definitely a different flavor. But I will say I miss covenants from Dark Souls... they were fun flavor sometimes fun rewards and pulled people into the mix who may not otherwise participate.
@reckless74732 ай бұрын
Just finished DS3 after Elden Ring dlc but sometimes it takes long to find other players to invade.
@Laaonne2 ай бұрын
Imagine if fromsoftware ever calaborated with tournament holders and championship interviews with separate PVP playtesting to understand their most loyal audiences that play their games more than anyone else.
@Nobody329902 ай бұрын
Worst idea possible. "E-sports" focus is death of any game. People complain about bad meta, over optimizing entertainment out of the game and those issues would get worse ten fold after something like this. Don't let any game go the route of LoL.
@goblin53352 ай бұрын
I don't know why but I always come back to ds3 invasions and duels maybe because its my favorite game of all time but idk.
@scragglie2 ай бұрын
reject elden ring, embrace ds2 and ds3
@Ayahuasca982 ай бұрын
Reject shounenshit Embrace des ds1 and ds2
@scragglie2 ай бұрын
@@Ayahuasca98 yea went back and played some ds3, ds1 and 2 are way better imo
@Ayahuasca982 ай бұрын
@@scragglie idk I think bloodborne and 3 are worse than Elden ring because you have a lot more options to deal with the shounen bullshit in ER. Sekiro mechanically is my fav and if er had similar movement to that it would be amazing
@scragglie2 ай бұрын
@@Ayahuasca98 i agree with sekiro and ds3, but bloodborne is just peak man, sorry im biased but bloodborne will always be my fav
@elia01622 ай бұрын
@@Ayahuasca98 Did you ever heard about quality over quantity?
@InAVanByTheRivrАй бұрын
Wholeheartedly agree on invasions in elden ring. Fromsoft has started becoming more money greedy as all developers do. They are looking for mass appeal at the expense of their niche innovasions. This is happening in all their games (AC6) where the pvp is neglected into an obsolete state. They arent interested in replayability anymore. Fromsoft is a single player game developer now
@SetariM2 ай бұрын
Nice, the build came together! Looks extremely well-made!
@aust67982 ай бұрын
The fact that Elden Ring only accepts four people online in a session triggers me. WHY ??? DS3 wich isn't a open world game, allows 6 players. On top of that, the way they made the rules in Elden Ring, makes you run in to a lot of 3v1's
@MeeplingMystery2 ай бұрын
I guess this is a hot take. But I think Elden Ring PvP is just straight up better. I’ve really been enjoying it and I like that it’s constant asymmetrical invasions. I’ve found that whenever you invade a solo it’s just a free win 90% of the time.
@TerenceGranchester2 ай бұрын
I don’t miss the straight swords spam at all, actually. The only better thing of DS 3 was gank city and the 6 players possibility.
@humblehomunculus2722Ай бұрын
Play seamless co-op mod on PC. Getting 2v4 invasions pretty often now
@aliceinwonderland43952 ай бұрын
Literally the best game, both PvE and PvP. Elden Ring wishes it was anywhere close to as fun.
@tek5122 ай бұрын
There is no shortage of 1v1s in Elden Ring.
@LyllianaofMirrah2 ай бұрын
there is sadly, ELDEN RING 1V1s are mostly colosseum duels and it was mostly sweats. and low percentage of people using taunter's tongue solo to open themselves to invasion. and most of the TT users are just people who got bored of Colosseum Sweats who just wants longer fight with heals on. but sadly the advantage these hosts has is just too much for an invader to tackle. fortunately SEAMLESS CO-OP Has made Invasion feels right all players has same amount of flasks and can fight longer.
@grabballz48572 ай бұрын
No one wants to duel your bull-goat dual spear loadout in the arena.
@newwick2 ай бұрын
How I miss being an aldritch devout in gank city
@magnacrushersart5722 ай бұрын
Solo invasions 😢 omg no taunters tounge required either 😫
@hardwatergaming79652 ай бұрын
Might have to give this DS3 game a try
@ChuckFinelyForever2 ай бұрын
It was my favorite pvp experience by a mile in souls
@hardwatergaming79652 ай бұрын
@@ChuckFinelyForever Same here, closely followed by gravelording in DS1.
@aust67982 ай бұрын
I've noticed that before, was talking about it to a friend, the game rules for ds3 are more balanced
@SgtSnug28 күн бұрын
Dark Souls 3 is the Peak of From Softwares Invasion Gameplay. All though not perfect by any means, there are a great many flaws that could have been addressed, but none the less its still the best. Elden Ring just wasn't made with Invasions in mind, its very clear it was a tacked on feature just to have it, the level design is not meant for it, the player cap is one sided, the weapon balancing is...non existent due to excessive variations making it nigh impossible to accomplish, and overall it sucks. DS3 however, is so much better, with a limited roster of weaponry without ashes of war customization balance is good, though there are some weapons better than others, you can competently fight with almost any weapon if you're good enough, hell I use the Whip, a very weak weapon and I win 8/10 times. It all comes down to skill, learning how to read an opponent, bait a parry, time a combo, out think and out manoeuvre your enemy. The best Invasions for me are around level 60, why not 125 which is considered the meta? because at 125 you can die to 1-2 hits against certain weapons, and all it takes it getting nicked once and you can just die at 1000+ hp, at level 60 that cannot happen unless your opponent is using friend invite to bypass level restrictions (an example of not perfect design). It's also the level you have just enough stats to have a fully formed build, a 40 dex, or 40 strength soft cap build is very comfortable at this level, and it really feels balanced for it. Plus this is peak level for playing the Aldritch Faithful, as this is the level most players are passing through the area so you'll invade most at this point, plus its one of the best PvP areas in the game.
@sophiefoley23782 ай бұрын
It's funny how at the time we all complained about dark souls 3 invasions for being too hard, but in hindsight, the covenants, less damage, higher player cap, etc. Actually meant that, although they were hard for the invader (as they're supposed to be, within limits), they were probs some of the best (haven't played dark souls 2 so maybe it's better).
@InvaderTroyАй бұрын
You don’t really mention it but the TTK in Elden Ring is the biggest issue with the PvP for me. Even in a 1 on 1 setting it is way too easy to do 85% of your opponents HP in an instant, which compounds the multiplayer issues already present due to the player count. Watching the clips in the video the main thing that stands out is how little damage everyone is doing and how that extends the life of the fight by giving people chances to counterplay. Parrying is a reasonable option because whiffing doesn’t mean you’re eating 1200 damage. Getting blendered isn’t an immediate death sentence. You don’t invade a solo host and go home in three seconds because they got knowledge checked about a weapon art true combo. It sucks man. I think the community right now is sort of collectively grieving what could have been, given how much time was spent anticipating ER and what a letdown the experience has been overall.
@somniumlucidus9692 ай бұрын
I used the sword sorceries and homing soul mass on a luck build witb anris straightsword and mangrubs staff. The farron flash sword on mangrubs was a truecomboninto anris R1. Ppl never cauggt on and it was glorious
@khaq4960Ай бұрын
Sane ryan at home
@xMeme_X_Lordx2 ай бұрын
You should try the hornet ring. Makes crits even more satisfying😩
@duveduve1792Ай бұрын
it’s so much better
@turbotegs2102Ай бұрын
Yeah in elden ring pvp above level 80 (probably at lower levels also...) you deal way too much damage in pvp and there are so many ashes of war that deal 80% of a players hp if not one shotting them.
@bengus20692 ай бұрын
Your explanation about farron watchdogs covenant around 5:00 is false. You don't have to have invaded anyone to be invaded by the watchdogs in the swamp areas. Your take is closer to what blades of the darkmoon did back in DS1, although I don't quite remember how that worked. Good video otherwise 👍
@GuyMan83832 ай бұрын
For blades of the the darkmoon in DS1 you specifically had to be indicted by someone with an item you buy from the velka guy to accumulate sin, and then you would lose the sin when you get killed by a darkmoon.
@shuramixuАй бұрын
Hello, I'm on sl 60 on ds3 steam but I always find the same people in invasions, currently at what level is it recommended to invade and in what place are invasions carried out or where they invade you, thank you, of course currently
@_Ethereal4202 ай бұрын
Oh yeah and there's actually many spells in ds3 that we didn't get again in elden ring . Same with weapons and there soul successors which is a shame because I was really looking forward to a new crucifix of the mad king in elden ring
@aidenquin46292 ай бұрын
Murky abusers ruin this game for me :( I love the pvp and tried playing it today but the amount of people/ganks using murky was overwhelming. I was on ps5. Most of my hours in pvp are on pc and i never had this issue. Maybe I got lucky. I would rather fight a gank using moonveil and spamming everything they got than a dedicated murky gank any day.
@LyllianaofMirrah2 ай бұрын
PS5 PvPers are known to be scum. on PC is either just veteran PvPers only play on their leisure time just playing normally and few small minority of scum. but the gank on PC is rare nowadays.
@Oct0ber_4_EverКүн бұрын
The only way you’re going to get away from that is playing sub meta/pontiff.
@LyllianaofMirrah23 сағат бұрын
@@Oct0ber_4_Ever sl90 is the sweet spot after pve run
@Oct0ber_4_Ever17 сағат бұрын
@@LyllianaofMirrah SL90 is my favorite lvl for invasions. But you still run into clowns occasionally.
@letallettuce8162 ай бұрын
Yes, by a lot, Game aint anime
@LyllianaofMirrah2 ай бұрын
ELDEN RING Is Shounen Anime
@Dogpuppy7892 ай бұрын
Ashes of war spam honestly kinda ruined elden ring pvp for me, In Ds3 people actually try to swordfight. Although backstab fishers are more annoying in DS3.
@AnL2Spammer2 ай бұрын
Bro U 8 years late..
@m.s68322 ай бұрын
There is one straight sword that has the double poke its the short sword. But yeah I agree ds3 had far better invasions than elden ring
@MaoMavo2 ай бұрын
nuh uh ds3 was the first with passwords and weapon levels, I almost only met high level gankers. elden ring RL1 is one of the best invasion times right now, high level phantoms can actually be dealt with and the tools you have make it possible to snipe the host.
@turbotegs2102Ай бұрын
I guess higher lvl invasions are too difficult for you
@MaoMavoАй бұрын
@@turbotegs2102 try RL1 before you make witty comments
@turbotegs2102Ай бұрын
@@MaoMavo my guy, its mostly hosts that are playing the game for the first time, you are a nub.
@MaoMavoАй бұрын
@@turbotegs2102 you complete utter regard, try it before you talk crap, the phantoms drop their stuff to the hosts so you have to deal with 1hit sleep, rob from the host etc too.
@LyllianaofMirrah2 ай бұрын
you can have r2 double poke with lothric knight SS. and yes DS3 DS2 just have better pvp than ELDEN RING And DS1. DS1 in Other hand has issue with backstab abusers.
@pgh33162 ай бұрын
Have you heard the tragedy of Phillip the Disgusting?
@kimlee66432 ай бұрын
There is no counter invasion covenant in DS3. You probably invaded, got embered from winning the invasion and then got invaded yourself. It's pretty common in DS3. Otherwise I don't know what you mean. Everything else if fine. ER will always look more or less depressing compared to everything else, including DeS (somehow). The game is simply too gutted in multiplayer mechanics and too broad in size and design scope to allow for the kind of "fight to the death" feeling that's so common in previous games when an invasion ensues. The fact we went from gravelording to taunter's tongue is impressive for all the wrong reasons. Some people blame the invader community for it though, and to some extent we have to wonder how many twinks there are per honest red of the kind we see here. Not that ER fixed any of that, but at the same time, ER no longer allows for dark hand twinks to utterly humiliate hosts/phantoms/blues. It's just a shame how incompetent From has been in dealing with this problem. ER is certainly not the answer, and I hope there's another shift going forward.
@tek5122 ай бұрын
As a long standing red, I 100% think a lot of the blame rests on us. We brought ER's crappy changes on ourselves. We also brought all the ganking on ourselves.
@LyllianaofMirrah2 ай бұрын
in DS2 and DS1 you can be invaded for invading too much or killing too much host and got stamped into book of the guilty
@Lilacropolis2 ай бұрын
@@LyllianaofMirrahbro mechanics like that are what make the game feel immersive I love it
@Crit-Multiplier2 ай бұрын
@@tek512i digress. might your fault sure but my builds always are so far off from broken that it's laughable at best to have this opinion. just because you were an asshole to all the hosts you encountered doesnt mean every one is responsible for an other persons behaviour.
@Vanov2 ай бұрын
@@tek512honestly disagree with this. Coopers in ER were already foaming at the mouth week 1 about how invaders were assholes, especially the new players who didn't know invasions were a thing in Souls games. To the point where Taunter's Tongue AFK rune farmers started popping up before the game was even a month old.
@KingOfTheNightsАй бұрын
Hey, will you fight me in the coliseum?
@theamazingdagger55842 ай бұрын
What's the activity like?
@Ornaxius2 ай бұрын
We'll never reach peak DS2 levels of invasions again and it makes me sad.
@KingReviIo2 ай бұрын
If you play on PC there’s a KZbinr called UlteriorTech9 who hosts fight clubs every now and then but yeah I wish ds2 was still highly active :/
@FurtiveSkeptical2 ай бұрын
DS2 is gross and clunky combat. With glitch exploit combat meta. DS3 is light years ahead.
@KingReviIo2 ай бұрын
@@FurtiveSkeptical see my other comment about how I’ve been playing ds3 pvp for the past few weeks
@rouwenstucke34462 ай бұрын
As someone who playes "Fromsoft" games since Demon Souls and conciders himself a PvP veteran, I agree very much with the fact that DS3 has the best PvP. Elden Ring needs 0% skill to invade or gank. You take just one of the OP weapon arts, spam it and win. Since the DLC there´s even more broken shi* so it makes nearly no fun anymore to invest any hour in this mess. Everything is now very anime, bright and cinematic but the core of the SoulsGames got lost. I get it tho, many people love it cuz they´re blinded by the beauty of the game and how can someone judge and see the difference when it is their first Souls title. I am at a point were I simply loose my motivation to start Elden Ring again and rather go back to DS3.
@concept4312 ай бұрын
please look up covenant and and eplain then to the people
@AulossАй бұрын
ds3 is just a better game, pediod
@Togre34342 ай бұрын
Nuh uh elden ring is the only video game ever
@valianttoast18222 ай бұрын
Spitting facts over here
@info_mercial2 ай бұрын
You’re right I’m deleting my channel
@dragonslayer35522 ай бұрын
Yea i love elden ring too much but pvp and especially invasions in general are meh
@OrangeWaterLemons2 ай бұрын
You bring up a good point, however: no jump
@LyllianaofMirrah2 ай бұрын
jump has made ELDEN RING a chore to predict. as if predicting crouch poke and running attacks just ain't enough
@Crit-Multiplier2 ай бұрын
a bad jump is on reaction a free quickstep backstab. i dont see your problem. no need to predict anything
@LyllianaofMirrah2 ай бұрын
@@Crit-Multiplier jump attack is hella random asf with latency involved sometime it has lot of phantom range than it actually is. And then on jump is inconsistent asf. Like you jump an attack sometime you still get hit anyway
@SLIME-qo1hf2 ай бұрын
great pvp too bad its dead
@Dr.Vinheim2 ай бұрын
What level are you?
@shutinalleyАй бұрын
Elden ring pvp is garbage.
@rikkabilly2 ай бұрын
Dark souls 3 is for the ones bathed iin red. Elden ior those who cAll upon the blue
@cenationofjnu2 ай бұрын
Ds3 dlc is better than shadow of the Erdtree.
@mikkoto21352 ай бұрын
Ayyy, you got your build up and running nice 👍 maybe I’ll see you in some low level invasions next time