Dark Souls PvP - Velka's Hunter -

[@LautrecOfCarim]

Carim has changed since they offed Earl Arstor. Back in my day we were above miracles, shields and all of that faith-based nonsense. (Ignore the part where I use sorceries from Vinheim.) #MakeCarimDexAgain #Heh

[@jjoegr]

Lautrec of Carim when do you use sorcery? With that goon in your gank squad lol?

[@LautrecOfCarim]

Aether Films Whilst ganking in Anor Londo I always make sure to cast Fall Control beforehand. It is a necessary security measure considering what tends to happen when I sit down near Firelink Shrine. Heh.

[@jjoegr]

Lautrec of Carim heh. Fair enough. Forgot about that. Say, how did you end up in a sewer in Irithyll? Or your ring did at least.

[@hermithefrog629]

But oswald is from carim, and he's the velka dude

[@HollinHexen]

"Velka's rap- velka's rapier" -nice save

[@Zimzilla99]

My dude do you hear jblackmal wants to play you on his battle of the builds series

[@RisenSlash]

That would be awesome as hell.

[@Zimzilla99]

Benjamin Yonko indeed

[@zedre7633]

Don't let backstab fishers and R1 spammers frustrate you, folks. After all, it is only human to commit a sin. *KEH-HEH-HEH-HEH-HEH!*

[@adamb4140]

Man you know you're doing something right as a youtuber when i get actually excited when you make a video. And idc this is a shit build, i love the lore of this game and trying out different builds so you know damn well im playing this build. Keep up the great content! Edit: Idk if you see this as bad but i completely replicate these builds to see how their played, i hope you don't see that as copying you because that's not what im trying to do at all

[@saintriot]

Vaultdweller 127 nah man, feel free to use or change whatever. Anything that promotes build variety.

[@adamb4140]

saint_riot awesome dude, again thanks for making great content

[@iroks9481]

I dig it, I’m all over anything having to do with Velka and/ or Londor. Lore Builds > Bore Builds

[@ProjectGoof]

making em plead n bleed build

[@boyaba2]

Do i smell a lore invasion or do i smell a lore invasion. YES.

[@Shourockow]

It’s the middle of the night and I can’t sleep, good thing nether does saint.

[@danlorett2184]

Katana is pronounced "Eee-eye-toe". It's short but it's probably got the best moveset of all 4 DS1 Katanas. Also, Karmic Justice's damage scales with magic adjust, so switching to something like Tin Crystallization Catalyst makes it do a SHITLOAD of damage. If you're going to die with it up as an invader it's an excellent strategy just to equipswap to a strong catalyst right before because it will literally do like 1200-1600 damage with the Tin Crystallization Catalyst. Any reason for the Target Shield? IMO Small Leather Shield is a straight upgrade.

[@Zhfreak]

Target shield is way more fashionable, Leather shield is p ugly.

[@soundandfury9641]

Target Sheild has a longer parry animation, so it has a larger parry window but is much less reactive. Just comes down to personal preference.

[@INTROVERTING]

and he wants his karmic justice to go off

[@Yelzabub]

& if you don’t have int, an upgraded pyro flame in the right has good magic adj. & the grass crest is a good option to block with cuz its got the 95% dmg reduction. 100% wont trigger karmic justice

[@absoutezeo2126]

0:45 _puase_ "Yup. That's me. You're probably wondering how I got into this situation."

[@Zhfreak]

It is Darkdrift you were referring to, but it's actually from DS2 originally, where it was stated to be originally owned by "the one who gave us first death", meaning Nito. So while eventually inherited by Yuria, the origin of the weapon has nothing to do with Velka.

[@JohanFaerie]

Hey saint, you remember that mediocre blackguard build you did, where you used very average weapons at fairly low level? Are you going to do another one like that with the gargoyle tail axe and titanite catch pole? I think that would be great!

[@VivianAckers]

girclassgamer gargoyle tail axe is actually pretty good, very underrated.

[@saintriot]

I use the catch pole on my chaos dude now, but I just replaced it with the gargoyle halberd. I love both of them.

[@JohanFaerie]

saint_riot noice

[@pincognito1938]

A lore rich video featuring a lore rich invader. A Hunter of Velka who... killed Priscilla for her soul to create a weapon... The loREEEEEEEeeeeeee. (I love this build, saint.)

[@Sincroix]

You're pretty much right about Seath being DS1's Pontiff. Always saw him that way, what with the kidnapping women to turn them into monsters out of a hentai and his studies of everything of Arcane.

[@Sincroix]

I also like your theory about Velka. I just wonder if Velka is still around after the events of Dark souls 2 and 3, since her pardoners are still around in 2, and in 3 her statue can absolve you of Sin.

[@SyrenKindra]

Seath knew his shit, he was gettin' down and sluggy with it before everyone else

[@dam4253]

except that it's the other way around :D Pontiff is DS3's Seath.

[@epichien8800]

the statue of Velka exists in DS3, at the Undead Settlement. But the name of most Gods and the warriors from DS1 were lost to the sands of time

[@Nick-wo3vi]

You like lore Saint? A few people gathered the nature and origin of the undead curse a while back. I'm not sure if youre familiar, so I'll hit you with it. Velka's earliest motives in the timeline of Dark Souls coincides with the Occult Rebellion. Velka is the goddess of Sin and Balance, and when the Lords wiped out the entire race of Dragons (save for a few), she crafted Occult weapons which several of her followers used to wage war on the Gods. Eventually, this rebellion was stomped out by Gwyn and his Four Knights (and by Smough, who became the executioner who eats his victims during this rebellion) After this rebellion, the Lords knew to fear Velka, and banished her to the Painted World (which had already been constructed for Priscilla). There, she was unable to escape, along with her followers, and plotted to destroy the Lords. Right around this time, the First Flame showed signs of dying, and the Witch of Izalith failed in her attempts to create a new one, spawning the Chaos Flame, which created Demons that encroached upon Lordran. Gwyn and his knights spent a long time trying to banish these demons back into Izalith During this period of Gwyn's absence, Gwyn's Uncle, Allfather Lloyd, beguiles the Way of White (A cult established to worship Gwyn) and gets them to believe that Gwyn is an incapable leader and the First Flame is dying. He proposes the idea that they should curse Humans by using their Humanity (a shard of the Dark Soul) as fuel for the first flame to keep it alive. Thus, the Undead Curse was created. Paladins of the Way of White were honored to be cursed, and were sent on missions to retrieve the Rite of Kindling the fire from Nito, in order to exhume more Humanity into the First Flame. Allfather Lloyd rigged the curse to provide incentive to the Undead for kindling their fires. More Estus (Life preserving fiery liquid that keeps them alive), and their long coveted human bodies. Dying repeatedly causes an Undead to lose their memory. The Curse became feared at that point and the Undead were hunted. Once Velka learns of this curse through the Cursed Humans fleeing into the Painted World, she plots to use these undying humans to exact balance on the gods for her. Since Undead lose their memories after too many deaths, she can fabricate this 'Ye olde' prophecy and allow it to spread through rumor into Lordran, that many Undead later down the road interpret to be some age-old prophecy (only because they have no memories). She ends up conspiring with the Serpents Kaathe and Frampt (who hate the gods and want an age of Serpents to come), to perpetuate this idea of a prophecy that sends the Undead on a killing spree. Frampt wants you to link the Fire and prolong it, so that when you die, he will take over. Kaathe wants you to let the flame die, so you become the Dark Lord and he serves as your right hand man, only to take over when you die. Hopefully that's given you a little more insight into Velkas motives and her plot

[@vincienco]

Nick Chambers wow pretty cool

[@Nick-wo3vi]

Vincienco Souls Ever heard of Hawkshaw? Its a channel that put together an ok timeline of Dark Souls 1 lore. Its missing a few things, but its an hour long and its definitely worth a watch.

[@vincienco]

Nick Chambers it's been awhile but yea surprisingly subbed to him from back in the day thanks for the reminder time to freshen up

[@Zanemob]

Thank you!

[@itlos3704]

Priscilla is not banished there. read the description in the peculiar doll. the painted world is a place for forlorn people. in there we find the acid surge. seems a lot to poison and toxic mist that were the reason he was considered a heretic in the great swamp. also there are this hollows that look like him. he and his people were unwanted. so they went to the painted world, a place for forlons like Priscilla. she was a crossbreed an abomination.

[@purebredhosscat441]

Love the lore invasions saint. Super dope. Excited to see more.

[@Grambee]

I want Saint to invade Vaati and give him an ultra loregasm

[@a_witticism]

Thanks for not showing me dying to pve

[@Zimzilla99]

I no longer meme but I was once a hunter too.

[@MidnightatMidian]

My final ban had made me quit the hunt too lol.

[@dana.9377]

I love the lore of Londor. The first character I started was a Sir Vilhelm build with Dark miracles and got the dark hand as early as possible. Been having a ton of fun with it!

[@midnightmadness6344]

Saint, I love your videos. They always make me want to dive deep into PvP and really get better at invasions.

[@firefighter1036]

I’m really enjoying all these lore based characters so far, they’re unique, cool looking and it’s awesome to see how you can spin the lore to make an entire character out of it. Keep it up saint.

[@watermahlon1140]

I love how you base all of your vids and builds around lore. It really had me hooked, even though it was 30+ mins :)

[@Ch35h1r3C47]

I love lore... I love Velka.... I LOVE SLUGSS!!!

[@tealeaf391]

'and delivers justice in the most poetic and karma heavy way'..you might say she was playing 49D Karmic Justice. Loved this Riot esp all the stuff about Velka and the gods.

[@bl687]

Saint..right up there with the best of 'em. Keep up the good work!

[@epichien8800]

"Velka's raper... rapier" best correction EVER! XD

[@not_jiff]

Really liking your lore invader videos. This one was sick! I wish I had this kind of creativity.

[@BetaNights]

You've honestly become one of my absolute favorite KZbinrs/PvPers/whatever, just for the heavy emphasis and love you have for the lore in these games. Some people love to min-max, some love to make OP stuff... I just love fun themed builds, especially if they fall into the lore of these games. Miyazaki really needs to just write a fucking book. lmao

[@Merapsco]

She hates spells and likes us. Wtf I love Velka now!

[@geenoix2357]

What? Isn't hers the INT scaling talisman?

[@Merapsco]

90 iq hates spells. 120 iq loves spells. 200 iq despises spells.

[@fpsman3604]

You've outdone yourself with this lore building and compacting. I only wish that I had enough time to check your streams more often :)

[@lowlize]

Awesome video, love the lore builds

[@kingdonnie1342]

I got 21 minutes in and then realized it was a super long video... I thought it was a 3 minute invasion build montage.

[@Loodvigg]

I was just wondering when the verticallity covenant leader would grace us with another build.

[@emiliolozano7309]

i was just about to go to sleep, GREAT timing

[@FirstnameLastname-cv1nt]

my opinon on the square cages is thats how they made the phalanx things, they shoved a ton of hollows into a box and set them on fire, healed them, repeat. eventually fuzeing their bodies together

[@katanamaru1]

This was great. Neat that Velka brought punishment to the gods.

[@johnblmccormick]

Ahhh Carim, or some say Carim.

[@oryx167]

One of Velka's confessors was in Ds2

[@dibdap2373]

You mentioned the strange ambient sound in the Painted World...I just noticed that today. I thought it was like some kind of soft music.

[@Ackelope]

Funny that you say it's the katana found in Blighttown, because all of the katanas can be found in or are related to Blighttown in one way (except, potentially, the uchi, if you get it from killing the undead merchant). The uchi and washing pole can be bought from Shiva when he's down there, the iaito is found there, and the chaos blade is made with any other katana and the soul of quelaag, who you fight there.

[@cooldudeachyut]

You should pair Bloodshield with the Lifehunt Scythe for not bleeding out easily.

[@lootnmo2043]

Wish the actually put velka in the games tbh

[@KugutsuYushiro]

Dat triple ladder kill tho

[@northkorea9223]

Props to that gargoyle helm dude for that estus chug>parry

[@Nevantus]

What would be cool for this build, would be Velka's Talisman, that is, if it would let you cast miracles with Int instead of faith. Nice RP build sir! Also, great theory, I like it!

[@Zanemob]

Thank you for this video.

[@joearehart9854]

Great video! I think the boxes with chains attached suggest that Velka was once on board with the Painted World being a prison. The only creatures we see in the world that could have transported those boxes (prisoners inside), and set them down with relative care, are the giant crows. This environmental clue, coupled with the fact that Velka's items seems to all be about justice (obvious ties to a prison), paints a picture (aye AYE!!) of a time when Velka was serving her prescribed roll in Gywn's Age of Fire: judge and prison warden. Perhaps Velka disagreed with Gywn's decision to extend the age of fire. Perhaps she saw that Gywn and his court were declaring people to be "sinners" for political reasons rather than actual sin. Whatever the reason, at some point Velka started actively working against Gywn's regime, and it was Velka's defection that sets our entire journey in motion...sorry thats a book. Anyways, I'm really enjoying how your love for the lore of Dark Souls 1 is leading you to do lore speculation, and I think your theory about Velka's job being finished is on point (also think your speculation that Sen's was originally a Silver Knight training facility explains so much about what Sen's was in the world and why it was built where it is). Keep up the great work Saint! Rawr!!

[@sarahhatesit]

Yenno its gonna be an instant classic when Saint starts off lorewalking

[@scritoph3368]

Saint, i made a 'Grave Knight' toxic build at SL65 for catacombs but after watching your Moonlit Knight build, all I ever do is invade in dukes archives! Thanks a lot, jerk! JK, you're amazing at this game and I aspire to be even half as good as you.

[@bubbajoe117]

A hoonter must hoont!

[@church4898]

Hey saint thanks for the videos man. I've actually gotten decent with ds combat from watching them. Learning to analyze was the hard part but it pays off.

[@tank19768]

About "thee thoest *whomst'd've*", it's not just deities, it's anyone who is very old. It's basically just a verbal indicator that they've lived since people spoke that way; Alvina, Dusk (and pretty much everyone in Oolacile including Elizabeth and Gough actually since it is actually in the past), and Priscilla also speak that way. Note that Oscar says "there is an *old* saying in my family". Kaathe and Frampt speak ye olde tongue, however you could argue that they're a lot to do with the gods. Oswald of Carim also speaks that way, and Quelana doesn't, so there are a few outliers, but it generally holds true. Funnily enough you'll notice they did this in Dark Souls 3 for Andre. Whereas in Dark Souls 1 he spoke normally, in 3 he starts using "ye"s and "prithee"s, which I thought was a cool way to show the dialect has changed from the timespan of the first game, and Andre's speech is now interpreted as archaic.

[@ichigo9055]

Karmic Justice actually works with any catalysts magic adjust, and can easily be a one shot if you pull out the TCC before it goes off since that has the highest magic adjust in the game, combine that with RTSR and you can nuke entire squads

[@jeansimaroli8029]

Man you shocked me when you said about the gank of the gods on your curse itself, never see someone who noticed it with this details. Lorewise about that too, Gwyndolin was a real bitch when he conspired with Frampt to kill all the gods and relink the fire. Same "goal", but one for gods with miracles, and one for Velka with dark miracles. NICE Saint

[@Gnurklesquimp]

Cool build, that's a lot of dedication with the Occult weapon haha. I've heard elemental does help with the bleed though, not sure if it's true but that could be nice with the scythe

[@HamsterHamsterton]

I used to rock Karmic Justice with a Havel cosplay. Even back in the day when the Burg was super full, people would just not know what it was and attack my shield forever, then get blown up. It's pretty fun.

[@Khaliljt]

Isn’t there a talisman that scales with intelligence? I think you could use that to still have miracles and still use velkas rapier

[@messymessr]

You still have to meet the stat requirements for the spells :(

[@D-Havoc]

You're making occult look sexy Saint. Using the Lifehunt Scythe in that level has its challenges anyway because that's were players find the Blood Shield. So they have extra bleed protection.

[@hmmyes9870]

I love how all your builds could be cannon.

[@ngdbss6933]

Velka is a textbook example of overfitting in historiography. There's a certain amount of definitive stuff but far more vague supposition or outright guessing surrounding that. And I doubt that From will ever release a conclusive narrative because that belies the whole point, that beyond a point we're making up stories to guess at the gaps. Which is totally fine - it's what Miyazaki himself was doing with old English-language text-based RPGs from the 80s. He was playing things like Wizardry (already intended to be obscurantist to Americans) and pulled together fragments in his head.

[@Gnurklesquimp]

I was planning a rh casting tool lh curved sword setup but couldn't find a good enough reason to do it vs. the downsides, thx for reminding me of Karmic Justice.

[@skrublord6000]

Katanas are good but....CURVED. SWORDS.

[@verlassent5684]

Skrub Lord (R1)^40

[@ericforman1976]

I always thought those cages on the cliff contained the first undead discovered by the gods.

[@aidanmaclear2787]

Hey Saint, did you know that the Lifehunt's 2h running attack true combos into a backstab if you hit them in passing unlocked? Also works with rapiers but the hitbox is much tighter.

[@ravenofash9234]

Great video and build! Not using op stuff and playing in a strategic manner. Thats so rare in this game. Perfect stuff!

[@joearehart9854]

People made a meme outta the remaster, and its “40$” price tag. Those people are idiots. I’ll easily spend 40$ on fast food this month for my son and I when we’re on the run. The 40$ I spent on this gave me active PVP in every area of DS1 (in 60 fps) for a good month and a half (after those days with a bunch of server outages it was basically rip). It also gave me a rock solid, complete version of a masterpiece on my PS4 that’s coded in a modern format that should assure backwards compatibility on consoles for the foreseeable future. AND THEN, it gave me Saint Riot’s deep, well thought out, and surprisingly convincing theory on Velka being the puppet master behind the Chosen Undead. My mind is blown. Sony, please can I haz Demon’s Souls remaster?!?!?? Rawwwrrr for the Riot Squad!

[@iiequinox8044]

I like to think that Scythes' critical involves placing the blade infront/behind them then kicking them into the blade.

[@Rokuro3771]

I tried this build out and i like it:) only thing ive changed was using the gold tracer in the offhand to mimic the whole inhuman swordsman idea.

[@alastorrockwell3226]

Saint, you just blew my fuccin mind

[@andersgespielt8510]

A bit late but I always wondered if the castle in the painting was always a ruin or did it decay and change the picture

[@DarkSouls-Izalith]

Thanks again Saint

[@lllXanderlll]

New Velka lore ! What's not to love about this video ?

[@chroniclej2439]

Yeah, that was my theory too. Like “Velka” comes and scoops your ass up from the Asylum so you can punish them for their sins. Gwyn especially, for committing the greatest of all sins. By breaking the natural order and beginning an awful cycle of suffering, by linking humanity to the flame to keep it burning. And you fulfill her duty by fucking them all up. Glad I wasn’t the only one who thought that.

[@CEOofDontCareInc]

yeah I like scythe backstabs too

[@amadhollow635]

IM FUCKING GLAD SOMEONE ELSE ASKED ABOUT THE WEIRD ASS CAGES AND THE ELDRITCH NOISE COMING FROM THEM I have to imagine it had something to do with the dark. Consider the monstrosities of the two types of dark beasts in ds3 or manus in the dlc.

[@roguish766]

Now that's some *deep lore*

[@felixstolz4619]

What about using velkas talisman? Casts miracles but scales with intellegence iirc. Seeing as you still need to meet the faith req (in this case 30 to get vow of silence) , it could make it hard, but who knows, you might be able to do something cool with a higher level build?

[@Zanemob]

I both hate and love dark sorceries. I have a set up on a build I use occasionally that has 3 Pursuers 3 Dark Beads. Also, I hear Manus Catalyst does more damage with dark sorceries than the Tin Crystallization Catalyst. I've tested it numerous times on my build that had 50 str 45 dex 50 int 50 and Tin Crystallization Catalyst does a few hundred more.

[@Philiquaz]

Someone's been watching Hawkshaw's way of white

[@TheValiantBob]

Even if not on this build, you should totally make a Velka's rapier build at some point, just because it is a cool weapon.

[@acloud7604]

Wonderful video.

[@Ironmaniacs7]

The issue with your theory about Dark Souls being Velka's justice for the God's actions is that the you don't just happen to kill every other god while innocently exploring. You pursue the legend Oscar tells you about (kudos on picking up on the language shift btw), ringing the bells of awakening to meet Frampt, who "elucidates the fate of the Chosen Undead," and sends you to find the Lordvessel, in Anor Londo. Gwynevere (Gwyndolin) then tells you that you will replace her father Gwyn on the throne. Frampt will then say that he's been waiting for you for 1000 years, and that you must fill the lordvessel with powerful souls, to become as powerful as Gwyn. The souls you must collect are Nito's, the Witch's, the Four Kings', and Seath, Gywn's confidant. While you may be delivering justice with the help of a raven, you're also doing what Frampt and Gwyndolin want you to. The Gods, same as the lords of Dark Souls 3, have abandoned their responsibilities, and must be brought back. Nice theory, and a great video, and it may have been true in the story before cut content, but delivering justice is a byproduct of all this. That is of course if Gwyndolin isn't connected himself to Velka, though Revenge and Justice are different things.

[@edoeight]

4:16 velkas raper xDDD i can't stop laughing XDDD

[@TheKing-qz9wd]

Wait so I was thinking. What if you could cast Charmic Justice with Velka's tailisman on a sorcerer with the Moonlight Greatsword in your right hand?

[@_pynck9392]

Im going to buy this just to steal your fashion loll

[@lordfarious]

The lore was pretty good

[@maideninblack4920]

this is a great video

[@michaeljohnston490]

So what you’re saying is that our character is Kratos

[@raisnhed]

That Velka theory is canon. To me...

[@megadragonking546]

Here's my theory, Seath discovered the Eldridge truth. Hence no eyes. See they intended to make blood-borne since Dark Souls 1.

[@jonjensen4514]

Honestly firelink shrine in dks3 looks more like the tower you were dueling in painted world than it does firelink in dks1

[@PunkZombie1300]

Well it's not the Firelink Shrine of DS1, that's the Demon Prince arena in the Ringed City.

[@66Acx]

I did a Velka Build long ago and I also did use the Lifehunt Scythe, I see we had a similar idea there...but forget about Velka's rapier, that's a terrible weapon

[@Yeetomato]

4:17 velka's WHAT

[@livingoutloud40]

Ahhh sick build man

[@ReaperCaliber]

For you nooblets who don't know, the painted world was the first area in Dark Souls made, and there were plans to actually make Priscilla the main protagonist, before the nameless chosen undead.

[@D-Havoc]

Sir Skinnyjeans doesn't wanna leave Friede because he's too infatuated with her. She even friendzones him.

[@timbogymbro66]

Question is, why didn't you make it Soul Level 69?