DARK vs CLEM: Epic Grand Finals | EPT NA 199 (Bo5 ZvT) - StarCraft 2

[@CaptainYesz]

Commentary around 32:00 explaining the upsides/downsides of Clem's micro decisions is very interesting and gives this a lot more depth as someone who doesn't really play SC. Always enjoy commentary from you & Harstem because it's insightful, I can see the "expectations" you would have if you were super knowledgeable about the game, allows me to watch this while I eat daily :)

[@df9918]

wow game 3 is awesome. the way Dark comes back from behind is just insane

[@ToneFuentes]

Dark is my favourite. So laid back. Pure fun and creativity.

[@motan7864]

awesome series, awesome cast man!! but please leave the production tab open! :D thanks for the cast

[@yurijai9801]

CLEM is like a kid that never learns when touching a hot stove. Love the tenacity of this kid.

[@PiGCasts]

Yeah you're kinda just shouting, STOP TOUCHING THE STOVE - but in the end he manages to rip the heating element off and frisbee it at the guy trying to burgle his house, showing that for him and him alone it's a fantastic move :D

[@yurijai9801]

@@PiGCasts lets give a shout-out to Clems mom for neglecting her parental duties that gave rise to this epic SC player. Clems mom we and everyone here at Pigcasts salutes you.

[@Sildokaj]

Damn these guys are really getting to know each other

[@faithnfire4769]

Awesome clean up by Clem near the end there, so easy to throw that away against Dark. Speed rallies with units in medivacs as well *chef's kiss*

[@nathanbarnhart7823]

1:08:16 I let out an audible “WTF” when the reaper got that ling and my girlfriend asked me what was wrong lol.

[@samov497]

Those main base drops and burrowed zerglings were nasty

[@normanwierdle6749]

Dark seems to be using FOBs and guerilla tactics. *The Zerg Mind Dark!*

[@MyMared]

15:24 Ravager commits Sudoku 😂

[@PiGCasts]

youch

[@anotherplatypus]

That was a fantastic bout... honestly the end felt like a coin flip... I mean in the sense that if they had to do it over it could've gone either way

[@space_orphan]

Awesome series, but the description is wrong, this was not from the Cursory Cup.

[@PiGCasts]

thnx fixed

[@nopestproductions]

7 actions per minute!

[@barbecuedchicken2894]

Glorious game

[@user-pr6jx5hz9m]

I just keep thinking that 2 defensive ravens would pay for themselves 10x with how many annoying pokes they would shut down with their detection and auto turrets (have each patrolling between dead space and most exposed expansion to provide vision). How many scans could have been saved in the games Clem lost???

[@kostyantynhoncharov493]

FINALY !!!!! W ! Thnx PiG ^^

[@xNiDrOx]

did dark ever play wc3? i think hes style could have bean a beast back in rain of chaos

[@crystallizard007]

How’s StarCon going?

[@aaronalquiza9680]

30:22 lol

[@PiGCasts]

zerg sandwich tasty :D

[@ohmyonionpie]

dark is in a special place these days! so sick.

[@ohmyonionpie]

posted this on game 3, 5 was kinda sad XD lol

[@laureloneiros1500]

nice baneling nerf, shows a lot of skill from the terran

[@paulhamtorlia3039]

Korea's Best Zerg vs Europe's Best Terran

[@ff_s_]

And you put clem-chan on B-tier Madge

[@PiGCasts]

haha the moment he wins anything international, maybe a Homestory cup he gets put up a tier! I'd love an excuse to move him up

[@paulhamtorlia3039]

Because non-Serral European

[@cavemantero]

you criticize Clem for being the best Terran in the world against Zerg when he has to play against OP unit abuse constantly from Serral and Dark? You have to push through or you just die from bile siege. Clem's tactics are sound. There's just no way to beat zerg when everything they have is built to counter terran units.

[@PiGCasts]

If you ever want to discuss something I've commented on with me in a long cast like this plz link a timestamp, I cast dozens of games each week so it's really hard for me to remember exactly what I said in each cast. Generally I'm a big Clem fan and think he creates the most exciting TvZs and has been one of the few players that consistently causes problems for Serral and Reynor. No criticism in that. The criticism he normally gets, and it's fair, is that he struggles vs Korean Terran and Protoss. Though he's improving big-time on that front

[@sparkyk24]

wat Clem literally counters all Zergs right now. He is destroying Dark and Serral, and barely any other Zs can hope to take games off of him. Ghosts are one unit. They counter all 2nd and 3rd tier Zerg units. Widow mines counter every zerg unit except properly macroed hydras and brood lords (and maybe swarm hosts). Thors counter all Zerg units unless they are in combinations. It is insane to complain that for a given Terran unit, Zergs get to have one unit or combination of units that counter it. He's strong because he dominates every Zerg by taking advantage of Zerg's weakness, then he often loses to other Terrans and Protosses.

[@flowstateentertainment8395]

Zerg needs nerfs. Couple of ideas: 1) queens transfuse should be a research item or they should limit the number of queens that can be made. Their 150 mineral only cost while being a caster is absurd now that people build 6-15 queens. 2) ravagers are walking siege tanks. They can crack any position. This unit is too good at tier one. Maybe up their cost. 3) creep doesn’t need to be invisible anymore. With so many queens, creep spread is easy. Terrans shouldn’t be force to scan this anymore. 4) banelings are still op. Game one dark rolls in with banes and destroys 2-3 cc’s and all scvs with literally a-move. This is ridiculous at this point. 5) vipers need major nerfs. Remove their mana channeling feature or remove 1-2 of their spells. Pull, corrosive, plague, and endless energy? Ridiculous.

[@ts-cj2ym]

8 actions pr sec

[@sojourner3300]

Zerg spell casters OP. Boring

[@laureloneiros1500]

widow mine OP. Boring

[@paulhamtorlia3039]

I wish they just make their spells into support. Fungal dealing no damage but slow. Parasitic Bomb can't kill, only reduce enemy air units to 1 HP.

[@sparkyk24]

But....one of the 2 best Zergs in the world just got wrecked...

[@claucarlig1373]

Starcraft is getting so boringl. Just balance the game.....

[@PiGCasts]

we must have watched different games :O