The Ohio Toxic Train Disaster 2023 - What REALLY Happened

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[@TwistedMexi]

Did bailey sarian force you into a name change? Unfortunate

[@GlorPup]

It had to be Ohio 💀💀💀

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[@damienjstepick]

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[@melanchholly5891]

I live about 5 hours east of this, and a week after it happened a rain storm came over from Ohio and it smelled like chemicals. It's an absolute lie that any of this is "safe".

[@michaelmoline7058]

All lies, Enbridge said it was safe too

[@fzan47]

damn the us are fucking huge.. i'm italian and in five hours I can go to Rome that for me Is a lot

[@kornelobajdin5889]

​@@fzan47 yeah thats like from viena to stuttgart good 6 hours with a car.

[@MrWolfSnack]

After the first rain people all over in southern Ohio were having paint burned off their cars from acid rain from the chemicals. Anything made of plastic - trash cans, kids toys, lawn chairs - left outside also started melting from the chemical reactions in the rainfall.

[@liamholloway9022]

I’d still drink the rain water, if it meant I’d get to heaven faster xD also would like to mention that acid rain never happened to us.

[@360EvolutionGaming]

The EPA changed the #'s on their website for what would be considered toxic or non toxic merely hours before they started testing Air samples in that town. EPA is just as dirty as NS.

[@SilveniumTheDrifter]

They were bought and paid for decades ago. A similar incident happened with the Dow Chemical Company and some land they were using to dump some of their stuff at that took a long time and lots of digging to get the truth figured out. The EPA definitely weren't helpful in trying to figure out what was causing all of the plants and animals to die off near the chemical plant, that's for sure.

[@laurieholmes7414]

Damn Right !! They are also the ones that said "the toxic levels are acceptable evels". I say then make them movie their families there to live. Then you'll see really how acceptable the levels really are.

[@Cromie45]

The EPA strongarmed other states to accept toxic waste. Incredible.

[@party4lifedude]

@@SilveniumTheDrifter Because it's the EPA's job to accept bribes form the companies and then help them cover it up and help them get away with continuing to do it. That's what the EPA exists for

[@soarinskies1105]

You just found this out? Yeah no shit, the EPA is a useless government entity that has existed just to waste money for years and years.

[@sovo1212]

Actually, the most terrifying thing is how they tried to cover it up, and how they succeeded, because many people still have no idea about this disaster.

[@kaminsod4077]

Yep, now think about all the people in the area who will end up with rare cancers in 10-15 years time.

[@radicalindividual7774]

That's what you get from the Communist/WWWHOOO Puppet Resident Select Biden Administration. Especially after making it illegal for Railway Unions to strike.

[@markkraakman1427]

Its amazing how media dont cover this story

[@alexxx6297]

Bro this was on every major news outlet in America. Search Ohio train derailment right here on KZbin and you’ll see all the videos are from ABC, FOX, CNN, MSNBC and so on.

[@ArienDH11]

@@radicalindividual7774 You're a radical fool with a short-sighted, bias, narrow perspective. Look beyond the last 4 years and you'll see the same behavior and dismissive attitudes from both parties in multiple instances. Wake up buddy and don't be a tool of a psyop for another country. the two party system will tear us apart because both parties only care about their power over us.

[@Parasprites]

the real damage wont be known for years until people start showing severe health issues

[@cherryblossomscarletokami9841]

in before we have another Love Canal incident History just loves repeating itself

[@Nothingmuch1039]

"Definitely no DANGER here" is probably the craziest part of this entire thing. Those assholes should be held accountable as well. Just trying to cover their asses. That's so hard to comprehend.

[@manuxx3543]

We had similar in France, minister of health after an industrial explosion in the middle of a big city with lots of pollution "it's toxic but not too much" no danger ect ect

[@madokami03]

@@manuxx3543 yeah, idc if it’s “not too much” if it’s toxic and dangerous to people’s heath you’re supposed to get people out of there! France’s minister of heath seems like a dunderhead tbh

[@manuxx3543]

@@madokami03 No worries she handled covid like a champ /sarcasm and now works at WHO

[@pete379exhd2010]

It's all railroads the more money for lobbying the more you get away with. Bnsf and UP can both get away with murder numerous times

[@cartermaneki]

I work about 15 minutes away from East Palestine and can first hand tell you its bad. Locally a lot of videos have been sent around of all the dead fish in streams and rivers, it's a terrible disaster. I have heard from multiple East Palestine residents that in the fine print for accepting the temporary housing provided Norfolk Southern, you waive your right to file any lawsuit against them.

[@SilveniumTheDrifter]

Yeesh.

[@mykelcohen]

WOW!!!

[@Theinatoriinator]

you cant waive your rigt to file a lawsuit, regardless of what you sign.

[@ItzBIULD]

​@@Theinatoriinatoryeah, that's unconstitutional.

[@ItzBIULD]

They cannot do that, that's against the constitution. Someone should actually file a lawsuit for that exact reason.

[@J0SHUAKANE]

It's not that they didn't detect toxins in the air & water, they said the levels detected were "safe", which means, at some point, they shifted what "safe" levels are.

[@justkittensbeingkittens5892]

Ohhhhhh that makes more sense. I was pretty confused why the epa would be so blatantly lying about nothing being there when there is very clearly contamination.

[@RainRemnant]

How convenient...

[@-cheshire-cat]

Or a common tactic is to measure in areas they know are safe.

[@lolatmyage]

@@-cheshire-cat Also "measuring" when actually no real measurement took place

[@derunfassbarebielecki]

You can actually look up what safe levels are. All these reports definitely have some truth in them, but the way how they are politically painted, looks more like a campaign financed by republicans than actual evidence, even though the leaders of Ohio are republicans, but MAGA fanatics are usually to stupid to realise that.

[@DarthRedshirt]

Locals should have kidnapped railroad exec's and forced them to drink the contaminated water.

[@mockgothgurl]

They were too scared to show up though.

[@USA-o5o]

No then they would get arrested for attempted murder or murder 🙄

[@scotthayes4135]

The government didn't do anything to help either. People in that town should refuse to pay taxes.

[@RavenFilms]

My dad is a retired carman. I heard a ton about how bad it has gotten in the last 12 years. He’s been doing that job since the early 80s and for the most part, he was left to do his job. However long the work took was how long it took. Any preventative maintenance that needed to get done was done. Last decade that changed rather abruptly. There were time limits on jobs, if another problem was discovered while doing that job they were to ignore it and wait for whatever it was to reach the failure point. Preventative maintenance was out the window, and when cars were inspected, if something was noted that would need repair soon (I mean like as soon as it traveled another half mile even), they were not to submit it for repair, it HAD to wait till it crossed that line. There was so much more too, it was really bad. They reduced shifts from 3 shifts (24 hours a day) to 2 overlapping split shifts. They took away having a partner in favor of the split shift. They decided a partner was suddenly no longer needed for a whole shift, as they increased the job load, decreased the time allocated for the job and forced corners to be cut on personal safety, in addition to the fact that having a partner for the whole time was a thing from the start for employee safety. With the split shift you only got a partner for 2 hours (the point where the two shifts overlap). The amount of cars coming in went up, the number of over all employees went down, strict time frames for jobs caused extreme shortcuts to be taken in an effort to not be reprimanded or fired, carman were told to not work on problems they found that weren’t in the work orders and so on. It’s a ticking time bomb. This derailment is just a taste of what’s to come if nothing changes.

[@civotamuaz5781]

No damn wonder there are 3 derailments a day

[@htos1av]

That's a symptom of commutarded "officials"...

[@nurrdy]

Wow how do you cut out your spotter!! Tf they thinking

[@RazorbackV13]

I initially read this as your dad was a retired cameraman and I was like - why does he need preventative maintenance on his cameras?

[@arc00ta]

My dad was a track inspector for a long time and my buddy still works as a welder and another as an engineer, its unbelievable how bad the railroads have gotten. People also don't understand just how much they will be affected if railroads start shutting down.

[@robbabcock_]

No need to worry! Business & government officials have worked tirelessly to make sure this disaster won't affect corporate profits!

[@mockgothgurl]

Love this.

[@ninyaninjabrifsanovichthes45]

“Sone of you may die, but that is a sacrifice I am willing to make.”

[@fallonkorpal5924]

But it’s destroyed our local economy

[@Chrisg92499]

@@fallonkorpal5924it’s sarcasm

[@sovo1212]

The CEO must spend some time in jail, it sounds unfair that the company could get away just with money.

[@MrHondatrxex]

This was started way before the current Ceo

[@MistikCo]

Legally speaking they would have done nothing wrong, since everything was within regulations.

[@Rebrn-bk5em]

@@MistikCo regulations should be a baseline and go up from there. the company was greedy plain and simple

[@MistikCo]

@@Rebrn-bk5em The greedy part might be true, but in the eyes of the law, they are legally fine once they clean up everything.

[@sovo1212]

@@MistikCo If a train derails, it's because you did something wrong. If that train transported dangerous chemicals that can be hazardous to the health and/or the environment, you still have legal responsibility, regardless of what train regulations say.

[@FallenNephilimTeukie]

This was almost completely and entirely Norfolk Southerns fault. When I first heard about the derailment and that it was an NS train, it all made sense. They are the reason that train was so long and so understaffed. They doomed that train to derail.

[@MistikCo]

Is it really their fault? Technically speaking Norfolk Southern did everything as per the regulations, since by law only 1 or 2 people are legally needed to run a train, it varies by state.

[@fernthehouseplant]

​@Mistik Co Norfolk Southern has a history of donating to the people who vote against more safety precautions, and rail workers had been saying this would happen for years.

[@ChunkyJo]

Which never would’ve happened had we enacted regulations. Regulations that were killed by the very people who these residents voted for and still continue to support. It probably sounds callous and cold, but I only have so much sympathy for those people.

[@FreedomLovingLoyalist]

I blame the accident on Israel.

[@OffendingTheOffendable]

Nothing will happen to them, probably get a bailout

[@RobbieStarburster]

All authorities involed in downplaying this incident should be sent to the gallows. Alan Shaw (CEO) and the entire board of executives should be held responsible for their actions.

[@mockgothgurl]

Yes! Maybe if these people were held accountable for their greedy actions, things like this would stop happening.

[@FreedomLovingLoyalist]

I know who really did it, and it wasn't the railroad.

[@pookiedookiedoo]

​@@FreedomLovingLoyalist Who

[@tearainey1]

@@pookiedookiedoo They're gonna say Israel. They been doing that throughout the comments. Not sure if it's a joke, but I've read that it's a play on the derailment occurring in a town named Palestine

[@rate733]

"We did nothing wrong! We just intentionally injured and gutted a vital industrial system for our total financial benefit!" "So what if we put a "gun" to the heads of the skeleton crew and threatened them to work alone in understaffed and resource-scare conditions or they'll lose their only means of survival...... We are innocent!" "We folks here at Norfolk Southern have the highest regard for the human and environmental conditions and will work hard to resolve this accident that we didn't cause." Why do corporate parasites always end up in control of industries that need rational intelligent people at the helm.

[@meaningoftheunicorn]

It's not just Norfolk Southern that's to blame. It's the whole system of maximizing profits at any cost.

[@whensomethingcriesagain]

And by extension the whole broken economic system that runs everything on profit motive

[@J0SHUAKANE]

"If you think safety is expensive, try having an accident"

[@sal-my1id]

exactly. the blame does directly fall onto them, but we should have far stricter regulations preventing situations like this from happening legally at all

[@albertosaurusrex6854]

@@J0SHUAKANE The problem is that pollution rarely has a price, which may make it so that accidents are economically cheaper. Fuck capitalism

[@Rebrn-bk5em]

thats the most common factor in these tragedies. its sickening we need to tell them to operate as safely as possible

[@tonguepetals]

This is horrendous. The health implications are massive. This is poisoning the water, the ground. It will kill everybody and everything. Those people deserve so much better.

[@_Hamster]

The sad thing is that it is estimated that about 45 thousand animals were killed due to this

[@RainRemnant]

😥

[@prestontaylor517]

40,000 of those animals were the minnow fish. We capture and kill more in a month across the world as bait. About 4,000 other fish died. Again we kill and fish more every month. Don’t get brainwashed by headlines. Also those currents were cleaned immediately post disaster

[@markus8355]

I think theres much more...

[@prestontaylor517]

@@markus8355 yeah but the point I’m making is we as a species have a much higher effect on the environment everyday and there’s nothing said about that ever. Go spend some time on an oil rig and see how many times they mess up and spill things in the water. Or fishing boats. This train is one of the least of our worries. We pollute and destroy our environment on a daily basis and nothing is said in regards to that fact.

[@lexgoss6505]

I know an entire fox sanctuary that died because they forced the owner to evacuate without his animals. He could do nothing and he tried to everything that he could.

[@lyedavide]

I can't believe they tried to cover it up. It's beyond appalling that the EPA kept saying that it was safe when people were complaining about the smell and getting sick. That's how much the government cares about its citizens. The payouts have been miniscule and the punitive fines are ridiculously low. Some people at Norfolk and Southern, along with some people from the EPA, should be spending some time behind bars for deliberately putting people at risk of exposure to toxic materials. They can think about their duties and responsibilities behind bars.

[@tearainey1]

Well, the EPA will say "it was safe to the degree that it wouldn't cause death" even if it meant you went blind or developed a horrific skin condition or even got cancer. If it doesn't un-alive you within like a few hours they'll call it 'safe'.

[@KaileyB616]

Look into what the EPA did at ground zero right after 9/11. Honestly it's nothing new, they've always been corrupt, evil, liars.

[@Seeker887]

Which president was it that gutted the epa as one of his first executive actions? He also relaxed restrictions and regulations.

[@bonp3502]

I think they should have to live in E Palestine and take their chances with the water supply. This isn't going away soon as it has likely contaminated the ground water. So whatever you grow will be contaminated and your drinking water is prob not safe. What about youngsters who were exposed...cancer risk as they get bit older?

[@claire9183]

i went to university pretty close to this and its shocking how many people i know went to east palentsine after this happened. going just to take pictures and laugh about it. not a funny situation

[@justkittensbeingkittens5892]

But they need that 5 minutes of fame, who cares if people/animals/nature are actually harmed if I get 50 insta likes right?

[@joannewilson1162]

Some people don’t have the filter or compassion anymore. It’s very sad really.

[@claire9183]

@@justkittensbeingkittens5892 that’s exactly it, post about it so people know u were there and think ur “cool”

[@HollyNikole]

Nobody is laughing about this, be for real!

[@MrJakeros]

@@claire9183 unfortunately, that is the truth. Which is why we must be the exception to the new norm.

[@mintysaurs]

What I've learned from watching your videos is that this wouldn't be the first time a company would cover up the extent of the damage following a manmade disaster of their causing, but rather it's a trend. I would love to see you revisit this topic in a few years after the investigations wrap up.

[@Revan8888]

Reckon you've got a fundamental misunderstanding. Norfolk caused the derailment, they did not burn off toxic chemicals into the atmosphere, likely to eventually permeate groundwater in time. The people that DID, they're the ones covering up their crimes.

[@C21H30O2]

The company isn't the only one covering s#!t up...

[@SuperFlashDriver]

It Makes you wonder if companies and corporations are the real domestic terrorists in America. it even puts Al-Queda to shame when you know companies will do anything to create disasters just to fuck with everyday citizens for decades to come.

[@Tooluckyformyowngood]

I hope Americans don’t forget who refused to show up and who downplayed the situation. Truly despicable behaviour from state and national authorities.

[@akaKuiper]

Most Americans will downplay this, they don't want America to be seen in a negative light

[@tetchuma]

It will be eventually overshadowed by either another Trump scandal or another MAGA republican conspiracy theory… This is the United States now.

[@BrecklynFast]

You mean Trump for reducing rail road safety regulations that would have prevented this from being allowed to go through? Yeah Trump is pretty fucked up for showing up when this is in large part due to his policies of not giving a fuck about human or environmental safety.

[@sal-my1id]

@@akaKuiper american here, the press only highlight these people because they want it to seem as if the public is happy with our elected officials. the majority of us are terrified of the direction our country is headed

[@pgbrown12084]

This is Flint all over again. And this is why faith in the government remains at an all time low. This is politicians covering their own butts by down-playing the severity of disasters, then making sweeping changes that should have already been in place for decades in the attempt to look like they're not-at-all culpable for the incident in the first place.

[@BuckBlaziken]

2 weeks of constant coverage and news sites and studios completely dropped and forgotten about this derailment. It’s crazy to think about. My grandfather worked during a few environmental disasters in the past and he told me this is the worst environmental disaster he has seen in the last 50 years. The fact the government seems unconcerned about this disaster is worrying to him.

[@MrWolfSnack]

There was an engineered news blackout just so you know. That was done intentionally.

[@thorshammer7883]

It's evidence of it being intended and systematically designed to cause disaster.

[@fallonkorpal5924]

We’re still struggling here

[@firestardronephotography8331]

Glad I could provide some of the footage. Good episode, well done.

[@madrush24]

This whole thing is so disappointing, disgusting, despicable, disturbing, and every other "D" word in our language capable of describing the gross negligence and greed that we still barely know the tip of an iceberg amount about. Horrific. This has been all but covered up. One word: Blackrock. Sue the hell out of Norfolk. And, when people start dying in 5 to 10 years, I guess sue the hell out of the EPA for saying we're all crazy and everything is safe. Where's Erin Brockovick when you need her?

[@friddevonfrankenstein]

That stuff releases the most sinister, noxious looking smoke I've ever seen. That footage above the clouds is unreal Oo

[@whoever6458]

Evidence has come out that they were using devices that would have only picked up the chemicals at level many times more than would be safe for humans. Better testing devices exist but I think we all know why they weren't used.

[@derunfassbarebielecki]

Do they own these better testing devices? From what I know these departments are often severely underfunded in the US. No one tried to do a private investigation, so you should ask yourself if rage-baiting or even politically motivated media is actually a source you can trust. Some of it might be true, but I would only trust environmental activists in this case instead some randome accusations on the internet.

[@michaelz.7140]

do u think they received a sum from norfolk southern to say it is safe? I dont see any motivation to lie about the toxicity levels. Why would they lie?

[@ratemisia]

@@michaelz.7140 Maybe not willful negligence, but the NTSB puts little time and money into its rail investigations in favor of sea and air investigations, and the Federal Railroad Administration in charge of safety inspections and recommending safety legislation is a tiny, woefully underfunded team incapable of investigating every major incident, unlike their aviation big brother, the FAA. American railroads are broke and neglected at all levels, and have been since the 1970s.

[@markfreeman4727]

@@michaelz.7140 because their being paid Norfolk spent alot of money and effort to cover it up and get the rail line open to it could generate more money. as for the EPA lying...... this is america corporation control everything through bribes.

[@Alex-Defatte]

It blows my mind they thought it was even a possible idea to perform a controlled burn with such chemicals.

[@JJGeneral1]

Well, it was that controlled burn or a potential catastrophic explosion of many times more magnitude of the same stuff at a higher concentration. Which would have leveled half the town and been even worse for the air/surrounding area. It was the lesser of two evils.

[@derunfassbarebielecki]

So what should be done? Just wait it out and risk a big explosion? Kill countless firefighters and achieve nothing?

[@Alex-Defatte]

@@JJGeneral1 No. A proper manual, lengthy, costly chemical clean up would have been the move. A thousand guys in hazmat suits manually cleaning up the spill for how ever long it took but they just didn't want to pony up the dough for it and I speculate they wanted to broom this under the rug as soon as they possibly could. They didn't realize the implications of a much worse disaster from such a course of action. Money over morals like always.

[@revolver2750]

@@Alex-Defatte How can you clean it up if it's still burning? Not disagreeing with company's only thinking about the bottom line. Extinguishing it with just fire fighters is to dangerous for them and i guess a plane can come and drop water on it but that might just cause it to explode.

[@Alex-Defatte]

@@revolver2750 No. The Fire fighters could have used foam fire extinguishers. Specifically they're called aqueous film forming foam extinguishers. It just would have been about 40-50 times more costly than using traditional water to put out such a situation. Again, money over morals in this business country.

[@nyx2903]

The town I live in here in Germany is a similiar story. Nothing derailed here though, the industry just put some of their waste in our water and the surrounding area which was discoverey like one year ago. We literally have Zyancali in the earth below some carrot fields here in the area and different other chemicals in multiple small rivers and seas surrounging the larger industry complexes. It really sucks having to deal with such an issue. And of course the whole thing was settled by letting the industry have complete oversight over the cleaning operation that follows. No government control. no sanctions, nothing. The guys who threw their chemical wastes unnoticed right before our doorsteps are now the one told to fix the situation. It's like asking a serial killer to please stop killing after he murdered people for years and be done with that. But hey.. you can't risk falling out of favor with the big industries over here.. that could risk jobs. Let's rather risk the health and lifes of all people living in the area instead.

[@michaelz.7140]

which town is it?

[@MarvinHartmann452]

I'm not surprised. Health costs money, jobs bring money, and dead costs nothing. It's that simple.

[@-cheshire-cat]

Everytime something like this happens, it's always.. "Oh the penalties and fees are 0.2% of their profits for the year." It's just the cost of doing business. Why would any company change if it will cost them far more money to improve safety.

[@AliensDoCare]

I'm slightly down river about 20 minutes, our water still has a oil film on it, we run off a well and ever since this accident our water has not been clean. I pay $12 a day to shower at pilot and only drink bottled water.

[@lolatmyage]

That's the worst part, losing the only source of clean water in the house for who knows how long

[@KaileyB616]

What do you mean "to shower a pilot"?

[@AliensDoCare]

@@KaileyB616 at pilot 🤣 ot a pilot lol

[@overwhelmed_bear]

@@KaileyB616it’s like a gas station /travel center called Piloy

[@FoolishMark90]

Holy did y'all have a stroke? Are you all okay? Ot a pilot, travel center called piloy 😂

[@MarkJoseph81]

Never ceases to amaze me how many things that prove vital to investigations can be caught on seemingly random security camera footage.

[@lexedwards1236]

I hate that I live close to the site. It's scary not knowing what that means for my health in the future.

[@change_your_oil_regularly4287]

A Fire department without hazardous materials training? That ridiculous Where I live even full volunteer departments are required to have hazmat training & repeated refresher training thereafter It's like being an EMT with no idea how to perform CPR 🤷‍♂️

[@djjinxman1]

There’s different levels of HAZMAT response. Most small departments have basic level training and capabilities…. Secure the area, isolate, identify the substance, perform some basic decontamination…. Larger departments typically have the better equipment and training and serve as a “regional” response to more serious emergencies to smaller departments.

[@V_V8838]

Listening to that man scream these are not storm clouds was very emotional.

[@avanelletheclockfriend2515]

I feel like something important to consider is the fact that, in spite of all of its issues, the “controlled burn” was not in itself bad. The gases created by burning, though more acutely toxic, would decay much more quickly than what was already being released and, importantly, were most concentrated in that huge plume of smoke. In contrast, had no burn taken place, you would have had a much larger area, and many more people, impacted by the continued release of gases that remain closer to the ground, spread out, and cause long term chronic damage. Essentially, it was decided a smaller area of deadly gases that would not last long and could be much more easily evacuated would be overall safer than allowing a significantly larger area to become contaminated with gas that lingers and causes a large number of chronic health problems in people and animals. Chances are, while we will be seeing a massive increase in various forms of cancers and chronic illnesses, it will be much lower than it otherwise would have been. The key problems were the massive lack of transparency regarding the drawbacks of the burn and the blatant lying about the safety of the surrounding area, not the fact that the burn was done in the first place. It would have been the most ideal solution in the situation if it had been handled right, but of course that would have required keeping people away for much longer and sacrificing precious, precious money. They just wanted to say “look we fixed it, you can go back now because it’s totally safe and this entirely preventable disaster was definitely not as bad as you might think it is! We’ll just be on our way now haha” instead of doing their due diligence. It’s easy to point and go “they literally just made a more dangerous substance than what was there” and call that the problem, but it misses the point that the failure is in not carrying out the process completely and carefully. But of course, at the end of the day, we all know what companies like Norfolk Southern will do when given the choice between saving a few bucks and saving human lives. Here’s a hint, it ain’t the human lives.

[@gypsysouldier]

You forgot to mention that only ONE train car had "reached a dangerous temperature." The modeling for the burn was done by the Pentagon and was for ONE car. NFS blew up 5, covered millions of gallons of contaminates, built new tracks over it, and tried to move on like it was any other train derailment. These chemicals have been leaching into the earth this entire time! Of course, that's if the wind doesn't pick it up and blow it for miles.

[@ChristineNighting]

I'm surprised you didn't mention the videos of people in East Palestine having a "mickey mouse voice". Along with sore throats, rashes, and the other symptoms you mentioned, there was news coverage of individuals who'd been outside for a while exposed to the smoke in the area developed very high voices, almost like when you breathe in helium except it wasn't going away. There was one man interviewed who'd been affected for weeks and his doctors couldn't figure out what was wrong.

[@ethanrapp6998]

Holy shit that's horrifying.

[@JDL3777]

The mickey mouse voice was BS

[@ethanrapp6998]

@@JDL3777 Why am I not surprised

[@FrahdChikun]

​@@ethanrapp6998 fascinating how quickly your view on the situation changed.

[@AlexandraDiez-s4w]

Bruh the micky mouse voice think was reportedly bullshit and made up.

[@scottcol23]

This is the kind of disaster that will ruin the lives of the first responders later. Breathing toxic... burning toxic fumes is not a good idea. These guys are a brave bunch. Real live heros in my book.

[@kaiseriv8483]

Don't worry bro the water is safe to drink Source - the government and Norfolk southern

[@furtado.g_]

This disaster was so bad that it went international. Basically everyone knows about it. Here in Brazil something like this is unthinkable in many ways, we were very stunned to see that stuff like this still happens in the US nowadays…

[@gypsysouldier]

It's even worse for people now. They capped the burn pit with thousands of gallons of chemicals still in it, covered contaminated surface soil, built new tracks over it, and tried move on as if it was any other daily derailment that happens in the US. They are "cleaning it up" going on 3+ months. Whatever they are doing and have been doing are putting all this shit back into the air, creeks, and is mostly notable to me on windy, rainy days as I'm 15 miles away. Essentially, people have been poisoned daily since February. The local government was either paid off or threatened, and the governor of Ohio was shady from the get-go and refused to declare an emergency so people could get federal help. They still need help! We are being poisoned by our government, and it gets worse every day with NFS digging it all back up for months on end instead of not nuking a town and/or cleaning it up when it happened instead of building tracks over it to get the rail open again. All the reports that the EPA tested and it was safe for people to come back is a lie. The State and Federal EPA, Ohio Governor, and CDC are all covering for NFS!

[@Seavixenn848]

I (American, North Carolinian) were also shocked when I heard about this. You aren't the only ones 😳

[@joschaugustenborgnielsen2366]

it even made it to europe too. Only a few derailments have made it to europe in the last 10 years to my knowlegde

[@RainRemnant]

Glad this was in my recommendations, this is good quality! In depth research, well narrated, and no random shutterstock clips!! Can't stand those channels that fill in entire videos with irrelevant clips referring to every word they say but not having anything to do with their videos 😂 Subscribed!

[@htos1av]

AI crap.

[@DarkRecordsDocs]

@@htos1av i don't use AI

[@nursestoyland]

@@htos1avit doesn’t even sound like Ai

[@NJbro31]

​@@htos1av Do AI voice even sound like this?

[@andreimitrica77]

@@htos1av “AI crap” 🗿🤓

[@Bsquaredplus2]

Norfolk Southern is 100% responsible and needs to pay dearly.

[@NoahDoane]

GATX and a couple other companies were responsible. It was a GATX hopper car that caused the derailment.

[@PatchworkRose567]

I live about a 40 minutes drive away from the town and it was the talk of the area for a long time after it happened. Us locals heard about the derailment thanks to local reporters but it didn’t hit the national news until much later. We were constantly told the water is fine, it was just a freak accident, the chemicals aren’t toxic and have been disposed of properly, and it was safe to return only after less than a week. People are still fighting Norfolk for answers and compensation and the town has fallen apart due to everyone moving away afterwards. Norfolk themselves lied to the mayor and local government about just how bad the contamination was. Even crazier is that over that next month, Norfolk had several other trains derail around Ohio, but no tanks ended up leaking like with East Palestine. The entire state was on edge and trains quit running in my town and other towns nearby for several months.

[@handymanr4729]

We could smell this all the way over in Australia. But it wasnt Vinyl that stunk it was the smell of the corruption.

[@alexsawchuk5371]

I’m a firefighter in Ohio, I heard through the firefighter grapevine that the firefighters turnout gear (the big fire resistant coats and pants we wear) disintegrated as the threads that hold it together were dissolved by chemicals in the air

[@queenb67]

This is going to be an ongoing problem for those poor people for years to come with the phenomenal amount of contamination that occurred. It brings to mind the story of Love Canal, New York in the 1970s. That area is still messed up, even after extensive cleanup efforts.

[@tylerpalmer8722]

Heres something else thats crazy: not long before the derailment, a movie called 'White Noise' was filmed near east palestine, in which multiple residents of the town were extras. The plot of this movie is a train derailment (the movie is both set and filmed in rural Ohio) that results in a 'toxic airborne event' and the subsequent evacuation and panic. The similarities are incredibly eerie.

[@ethanrapp6998]

Crazy bruh. Can't believe this isn't in the IMDb trivia.

[@echodelta9]

China Syndrome begat Three Mile reactor accident. Book story on a reckless steamer then Titanic. .................

[@vanquish421]

Very based analysis. Covering the victims and their rightful skepticism, while not giving an evil mega corporation a pass, is exactly how this needs to be covered.

[@MadamFizzgig]

I find it wild that the people driving the train had no idea it was on fire for over 20 miles.

[@MadamFizzgig]

Nobody was monitoring the train, there was no communication to the driver… nothing.

[@Viking88Power]

These trains are often 2 miles long, depending on curves obstructions etc... You could only see a fraction of the train from the locomotive and beyond that most of their attention is forward watching for signals, signs and dangers ahead of the train. There are "hotbox" detectors every X amount of miles which is why the train eventually came to a stop. There would have been no other way for the crew to know if everything seemed normal beyond someone near the track observing it and having that reported to the crew.

[@airsickspace9272]

@@MadamFizzgig well it’s more like they didn’t get any information the people working were working their asses off but the hotbox and shit was not reporting shit till it got to another one. And unfortunately the workers wouldn’t be able to know much without the data

[@pgbrown12084]

I can partially understand why they didn't notice. Like VikingPower said, these trains can be extremely long. I mean hell, a lot of people driving around on public roads don't even know when their brake light is out unless someone else tells them! You can also compare it to airline pilots that can't see what the rest of the plane looks like while in the air.

[@Tony.Technics.1200s]

@@Viking88Power But don't have sensors on the track for exactly that problem, to avoid it from getting out of control like it did here? Also, they only have one dude controlling that entire 2 mile monstrosity?

[@sarameierhofer3887]

I live near train tracks where 5-6 trains come through daily and nightly. I keep hearing or reading about train derailments and with the addition of this video, my anxiety has peaked. Like, if those things derail, I'm toast.

[@musiqsoundsproductions]

Same here, where they still ride Chlorine trains.

[@andrewburkinshaw1446]

Sounds like if it’s causing that much anxiety for you you should move

[@sarameierhofer3887]

@@andrewburkinshaw1446 PSH. I wish I could afford to move. You offering donations?

[@NoahDoane]

The chances of a derailment are really low. You will be fine, especially now that Hunter Harrison is dead.

[@TheLewistownTrainspotter8102]

You have much greater odds of dying in a car accident than a train derailment.

[@Laursen_]

that city has become Pripyat

[@justlooking4771]

Thank you for covering this! I’m from Lisbon, Ohio (two towns over) and this has greatly affected everyone in our area. 😓🙏

[@Vienna3080]

The part that pissed me of the most about this was that the company only payed $1000 to the town

[@mikefletcher7181]

To every resident; source: I live here

[@johnsheppard314]

nowhere near what they should have been forced to pay, though. I'd have made 'em pay at least 10 grand a head, plus pay for all the hotel rooms so folks could have stayed away longer so more of the crap could have dissipated. and then NS should have been forced to pay like a billion-dollar fine, and reduce train size back down to maybe 1/2 mile long instead of these 2-mile and longer that they still run.

[@TheLewistownTrainspotter8102]

@@johnsheppard314 How are you going to force them to do it?

[@johnsheppard314]

with lawyers, same thing they always do to us.

[@DeadlySkill15]

I work on a contaminated site and seeing this is…Well mind boggling. Just knowing how long the site I’m working on is gonna be out of commission for is crazy but this event, in the middle of a town. That town is likely to deal with it for at least a decade or two

[@justkittensbeingkittens5892]

Soooo you’re saying after a catastrophic chemical spill it takes more than a few days for it to be safe to return home? Nah, that’s crazy. The government would never lie!

[@rredeyee2460]

I live in northeast Ohio about 3.5hrs away. Scary shit. Told my kids not to eat the snow. No joke.

[@shanemadejthedemon8951]

Am I the only one that noticed the name was changed from "Dark History" to "Dark Records"

[@lefunnyguy14444]

Damn i didn’t know that

[@neiliepaul4787]

I see

[@DarkRecordsDocs]

yep, had to change it for legal reasons but it's alright and the new name is here to stay :)

[@lowtechredneck6704]

@@DarkRecordsDocs I'll miss the old name, but I guess it can't be helped; I hope you weren't penalized for an honest mistake.

[@elizabethhayward8238]

@@lowtechredneck6704 Bailey Sarien has a channel called Dark History it could be because of that.

[@fearfulclone5486]

Also around that same time, Norfolk Southern had a train derail in Belleville Michigan. It had hazardous chemicals but luckily none of those cars specifically overturned.

[@seantischler2624]

There were at least FIVE derailments in the weeks following this one, all of them NS. My mother started suspecting sabotage as they kept happening.

[@NoahDoane]

@@seantischler2624 The previous CEO ran the company into the ground. Alan Shaw is relatively new as a CEO and has been turning the company around.

[@lionessoftor4139]

Their is a saying amongst maintenance crews; If you don't take time to schedule maintenance the machine will do it for you.

[@joshbrony2204]

It’s terrifying thinking about this accident. Considering this happened not even 10 years after the Lac-Mégantic Disaster, where a Montreal, Maine & Atlantic train derailed with an unmanned train, which led to 47 people perishing. While both Lac-Megantic and East Palestine are different in their own ways, I still get flashbacks, especially since I love to go film trains since I’m less than 10 minutes away from an Amtrak Station that CSX also passes through.

[@cauliflower8059]

I remember when this happened I was watching your Lac-Megantic video. Feels like the same mistakes just keep happening. ☹️ These companies will never learn from their mistakes as long as our government keeps letting them get away with it.

[@Kellbellgurl]

The "control" burn of toxic and cancerous chemicals still blows my mind and that is only the cherry to the dumpster fire of a disaster. I was wondering if the wind carried it over to anywhere else. There is also a flippn' train track I cross over everyday to get to work.

[@josephinebos8325]

I read a comment here, from someone 5 hours away from this town, and when a strong wind came over their town, they could smell the chemicals.

[@KATY03160]

it us more dangerous, caustic, and detrimental to alll forms of life than any1 will ever truly tell you

[@snazzycookie]

I thought I knew most of the information around this, but I didn't know about the fire department and a few other facts. Everything I've learned has made this so much worse...Jesus Christ

[@Scottishfoxy777]

Do you listen to any of squirrel girls coverage on this. She's phenomenal

[@snazzycookie]

@@Scottishfoxy777 I haven't, but I'll check them out, thanks!!

[@Scottishfoxy777]

@snazzycookie I'd love to know what you think. She's connected some rather relevant dots that aren't mentioned here and does deep dives. Enjoy and I'll hopefully catch you in the comments over there too 😉

[@FeralRC]

Thanks for reporting on this. I have immediate family living as close as a few blocks from the scene and more within 2 miles. Its sickening. Another NS train derailed in Newcastle, PA just a few days ago.

[@kclink1579]

But the news told us it was basically fine.

[@raw_si_siht]

The experts saaaaay!!!!!

[@RainRemnant]

Well then it must be true...

[@reachandler3655]

Cos the news is never wrong, is it?

[@ChaosKILLER245]

I’m from Ohio and I’ve known all about it since it happened yet still couldn’t wait for you to cover it.

[@SilkGMD]

GET OUT

[@JakotsuTheOne]

East Palestine was just the beginning, there have hundreds train derailments and thousands of factories and farms have burned down all over the world.

[@hnd450]

When they tell u not to worry definitely a good time to start worrying about what they are covering up.

[@jimbob8726]

Thank you so much, it IS really bad and I hope one day the people there get as high priority as government donating failed banks. Love your work man~☆

[@kenniandrepedersen1590]

Just a terrifying accident. The fact that someone would make transport of dangerous goods less safe is just mind boggling. Also that they would try to cover it up just shows the corruption from the top down!

[@kyleMcQuinn90]

Still not telling us everything

[@danieldavis9348]

Thanks for doing a story about this. They are trying everything to leave this less than clean. People will not let it go without being cleaned. They destroyed that town and it's never going to recover.

[@ARTSIEBECCA]

This is going to turn into another Love Canal, except the citizens know about it. The railroad company just needs to pay these people to move and leave and give them a lot of money. It is not worth your health to stay there and listen to what politicians have to say. They may not see the signs of any illness for many years.

[@OffendingTheOffendable]

The gubberment "nothing to see here, water is fine". Without social media the gubberment would have gotten away with it.

[@imchris5000]

who exactly made the call to burn in place? you cant find this info anywhere its covered up. the railroad did not want to pay for the hazmat disposal so they opted to burn it hoping no one would really care and everything would blow over before they would have to pay. which is exactly what happened. it only got reported on in the main stream news because the videos went viral on tik tok

[@thejmd1971]

I know exactly where most of that waste will be ended up at. I'm my City, (Houston). It was on the News here that a drilling Company offered to have it stored deep in the ground. Terrifying News.

[@maxgucciardi4507]

As long as it is below ground water levels it should be safe. But it is still a question if they will handle it how they are suposed to concidered everything up to this point.

[@bigussmokesus8866]

I live about half an hour pretty much downwind of East Palestine. Since the train derailment I’ve noticed a significant number of specifically coughing related sicknesses that both I myself and those around me have had. I personally have also slightly lost my sense of smell (not by much but still noticeable) and the air while not smelling like chemicals or anything has not smelled as fresh as it usually is. Could all be a coincidence but it may have something to do with the train

[@tridgab677]

causing such a disaster the company is still running fine and with minimal consequence. not even a slap on the wrist.

[@villebooks]

Excellent review/analysis of the disaster response and media coverage, DR! Thank you so much - and yes, comparing news and online reports is crucial today to get unbiased, unpolitical results and assessment on events. Respect and regards from Heidelberg, Germany - Susan

[@Lolligaggin_]

This is the first time I’ve ever watched and been interested in an in-video ad. Well done! Totally interested in that ground news!

[@flauschibusi3205]

As a Train Driver in Switzerland I am shocked how many derailments happen in the US. Also it is absolutely unreasonable to put so many different hazard materials into trains of, for europeans, an absolutely unimaginable length. This is just irresponsible. Railways struggle to keep profitable, worldwide - but cutting out on safety is just dumb. Politics everywhere need to understand, that in order to keep railways alive and safe there also need to be investments by the states.

[@1ChiMom68]

The railway and train company are 100 percent to blame... Also EPA OR INVESTIGATOR FROM OSHA needs to look into the chemicals that were allowed to be transported in the railcar.

[@hopegallows1392]

As someone who grew up on a Super Fund sight I feel that I can confidently say that if my accident happened today it would be handled like this.

[@LuluLinn]

Im from Ohio here, it feels after this derailment even central ohio is feeling more sick

[@lizc7884]

I live in northern CT and we had several days where we had suspicious "dust" on our cars. Almost like pollen but the wrong color and way off season for pollen (there was still snow and definitely no leaves or pollen). If we could see -visible- contamination all the way in CT...I can't imagine what the people between here and ground zero are experiencing.

[@MarniBailey82]

I live on a farm in Maine and saw a film in my outdoor water buckets, like the rainbow gasoline color in puddles. The clouds were pinkish, too. I didn't think anything of it till I saw a warning for the train derailment pollution being blown our way with the weather patterns. (This was a few days after the derailment)

[@ianmacfarlane1241]

The people of East Palestine and surrounding areas have my sincerest sympathies - i can't imagine the truly awful situation they are facing.

[@claudettes9697]

Gah. I really like this channel. This whole thing is going to effect the ppl for generations. Those poor ppl can only wait.

[@Jin420]

I live about a block from a train rail. Being in a small rural town with heavy freight train traffic -- I can't help but worry about this..

[@jockmchaggis6797]

"Controlled Burn".... yeah riiight.... 🤦‍♂️

[@feezahhab3120]

I remembered texting my friend about this and how unsure we were on this issue

[@JanitorScruffy]

A fun reminder that the people who write the regulations take campaign contributions from companies like Norfolk Southern.

[@tails183]

Welcome to corporate greed. Sad thing is that whatever they're fined (if any) and the cost of cleanup are still going to probably be cheaper than the money they saved cutting the costs that caused this to begin.

[@robert48044]

the testing of water is done after the water runs for ten minutes, the same thing was done in Flint when they came and tested the water. They would ask you to let your water run while they checked the neighbors houses and then when it was your turn to test the water was fresher then what rested in the pipes.

[@Swishersweetcigarilo]

I live in Cleveland. Bullshit how this all went down but I'm glad it didn't happen near a higher populated area.

[@notaspy3751]

The parallels between this incident and Chernobyl are scary. The coverups especially.

[@CaptianGhosty]

My friend is a junior fire fighter and was out there after the fire settled and was helping out with the people in the homes Thanks Alex👍

[@davidmanley9437]

I feel that the railroad is FULLY RESPONSIBLE.

[@adamfrazer5150]

Your heart goes out, especially for a smaller town, to be left to suffer not only the events and aftermath but to live under the dubious statements/silence of two powerful entities versus the evidence that these people are constantly coming across. And feeling aprehension from what may or not be present, including inside their homes.

[@nodengineer0420]

Boy was I waiting for this

[@claudettes9697]

Totally waiting for him to cover this.

[@DarkRecordsDocs]

took a while 😅

[@nodengineer0420]

@@DarkRecordsDocs Nah I think you got it out at the right time, definitely allowed more information to come out since it originally happened! Thanks for covering it!

[@claudettes9697]

@@DarkRecordsDocs worth the wait.

[@jonathanbaker5119]

I have friends that live close to that area, and they were freaked out and scared beyond repair. One of them said that Ohio became a toxic wasteland after that derailment .

[@swampssa]

After? Ohio has been in pretty bad shape for a long time

[@jonathanbaker5119]

@@swampssa Yes, I feel bad for the people who are still living in the affected area.

[@kiryuandgodzillagirl]

I live in OH and I was furious over this. My loved ones live not to far from Springfield OH and asked them if they were ok. This never should have happened this is why there are regulations for these reason

[@megagamernick9883]

Ugh I remember people discussed this at work. Still makes me mad that it went so poorly and how nothing seems to been done about it other than the fire. No talk of cleanup, No federal assistance, just some small town kinda forgotten. I’ve lived in Ohio all my life and this is ridiculous.