Darren Bent & Andy Goldstein CLASH Over Whether The MANCHESTER DERBY Is The BIGGEST Derby! 😬🔥

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3 ай бұрын

Andy Goldstein and Darren Bent debate if Manchester City vs Manchester United is the biggest derby in the Premier League.
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@mrdynamitehee
@mrdynamitehee 3 ай бұрын
These are the only two on talksport who seem like real proper friends
@jbo4547
@jbo4547 3 ай бұрын
They definitely have a nice flow together
@KelzMon
@KelzMon 3 ай бұрын
Cundy & O’Hara are proper mates. Laughing every night
@Ladtyuven223
@Ladtyuven223 3 ай бұрын
Tbf these two do go out to the pub after a show now and again I’ve seen them having a pint together a few times down my local, so you’re not wrong!
@Tarek_ElMaddah
@Tarek_ElMaddah 3 ай бұрын
Jim and Simon
@totsh2056
@totsh2056 3 ай бұрын
​@@Tarek_ElMaddah not really.
@izzyonthemap
@izzyonthemap 3 ай бұрын
‘’i hope we smash em, 1-0’’ 😂 andy’s united devotion is pure
@lovingfro
@lovingfro 3 ай бұрын
Generally enjoy Goldstein as a presenter he makes me laugh but he's the king of delusion when it comes to anything United lol
@Hepausesshaving182GGMU
@Hepausesshaving182GGMU 3 ай бұрын
He’s like me
@TheGeneral_LUFC
@TheGeneral_LUFC 3 ай бұрын
He really is
@tvgcmma9215
@tvgcmma9215 3 ай бұрын
That’s pretty much all UTD fans in the media - Rio is even worse
@griffster6145
@griffster6145 3 ай бұрын
"I didn't hate United till I met you" 😂😂
@Tarek_ElMaddah
@Tarek_ElMaddah 3 ай бұрын
Classic 😂
@wazr4338
@wazr4338 3 ай бұрын
There has never been a bad NLD, its a fixture most neutrals look forward to, Liv vs Utd is just utd getting battered like a cod and city vs utd is abit like Khan vs Canelo😂
@johnvalentine8941
@johnvalentine8941 3 ай бұрын
noboddy cares about a london derby except people from london, the manchester derby is the biggest and most historic in english football, always has been and always will be
@virtualcity721
@virtualcity721 3 ай бұрын
In the last 5 years the biggest feature has been Liverpool vs City. Derby wise right now? maybe Arsenal vs Spurs even though they haven't won major trophies in awhile, I guess fighting for top 4 made it worth watching
@benedictadeya8370
@benedictadeya8370 3 ай бұрын
not a derby
@virtualcity721
@virtualcity721 3 ай бұрын
@@benedictadeya8370 Rivalry. There are no competive derbies in the epl. The closes to a derby might be Spurs vs Arsenal and they both haven't won anything of value in over 15 years
@renderxtravels8464
@renderxtravels8464 3 ай бұрын
​@@benedictadeya8370neither is Utd and Pool 😂
@JP_LDN582
@JP_LDN582 3 ай бұрын
City are to good and it makes it boring af
@virtualcity721
@virtualcity721 3 ай бұрын
@@JP_LDN582 nah between Liverpool and City the outcome when the two meet is 50/50 but City wins the league because De Bruyne is just that good. If De bruyne retires City won't be as good as they are currently. He makes a huge difference. While he was injured City was 8 points from the top and when he returned they haven't lost yet. Rodri is good and all but let's be honest he cannot control the tempo of a game like Kevin does while with the ball
@TrevorDans
@TrevorDans 3 ай бұрын
NLD is the biggest derby in the PL because both teams actually have fans rather than the Manchester derby where one team has no fans, and the other team has no fans in Manchester
@TheArsenallozz
@TheArsenallozz 3 ай бұрын
Agreed mate
@robertmclellan3658
@robertmclellan3658 3 ай бұрын
Is that the team that has held the attendance record for 90 years?
@TrevorDans
@TrevorDans 3 ай бұрын
@@robertmclellan3658 there are lots of people in Kent and Essex
@jeffspruance9388
@jeffspruance9388 3 ай бұрын
We love it. Means all our fans are actually legit fans and not cowards who just chose Utd to follow the crowd.
@SilviaSolden
@SilviaSolden 3 ай бұрын
You clearly never been in Manchester....
@johnpaulreed4862
@johnpaulreed4862 3 ай бұрын
Why can't goldstein realise that man utd aren't that important to other teams ne more.
@GogoVictoria
@GogoVictoria 3 ай бұрын
This is my problem too. Goldstein is still under the impression that Man Utd are a more significant team than they are currently. He's almost blinkered, it's odd. In this day and age, leaning into past glories seems distinctly disingenuous when the recent seasons for Man Utd haven't shown anything of note.
@thomascooper1144
@thomascooper1144 3 ай бұрын
United are terrible but we are still massive. If we get spanked by City which will more than likely happen, guess what the headlines will be the next day? Because it won’t be about how good City are it will be all United crisis centric.
@SteveAustin-zv1nn
@SteveAustin-zv1nn 3 ай бұрын
Did you really type "ne" instead of "any"? Why?
@kylereed3357
@kylereed3357 3 ай бұрын
They get more clicks than any other team. Loved or hated they are definitely the biggest
@ballbagsuperstar
@ballbagsuperstar 3 ай бұрын
Caller doesnt know any man city fans cause he is a utd fan that doesnt live in Manchester.....
@edscorner2827
@edscorner2827 3 ай бұрын
Benty is talking nonsense. Arsenal fans want united to play the game of their lives 😂
@antoinedoinell
@antoinedoinell 3 ай бұрын
There’s no competition. City are miles ahead. The best United can wish for is a draw.
@jameskeen9112
@jameskeen9112 3 ай бұрын
LFC fan and honestly the best derby to watch is the north London Derby. Rivalry and they are more closely matched and deliver good games
@LizoMadalane
@LizoMadalane 3 ай бұрын
The biggest myth in the world is that Man City doesn't have any fans, Bull. we all over the world.
@benedictadeya8370
@benedictadeya8370 3 ай бұрын
It aint a myth. Beyond England, no City club is dying for that club. Those are deviants and sympathizers and cowards..not fans.
@kingpooh6429
@kingpooh6429 3 ай бұрын
😂😂😂 come off it mate you dont believe that
@renderxtravels8464
@renderxtravels8464 3 ай бұрын
Plenty of fans all around the world, plenty of City fans in Barcelona where I leave
@anthonyandrews5685
@anthonyandrews5685 3 ай бұрын
Plenty in Chicago where I'm at🤷🏿‍♂️
@Behold__Optic_Blast
@Behold__Optic_Blast 3 ай бұрын
I've seen like one city shirt in London, ever lol. Never seen one anywhere else either.
@leebosworth5828
@leebosworth5828 3 ай бұрын
Liverpool v city is much bigger these days. So much on the line over 6 points.
@petechambers541
@petechambers541 3 ай бұрын
And yet not a derby
@amakky1989
@amakky1989 3 ай бұрын
Benty is being nice to Goldstein as always. The latter wants Utd in any best, top bla bla bla conversation. Of course NLD is the biggest derby in terms of viewership and history. Merseyside would be as well if it wasn’t for recent history
@hustler666100
@hustler666100 3 ай бұрын
Arsenal Tottenham is bigger than Utd City but Utd Liverpool is the biggest game if not exactly a derby
@kriskerpuchki1311
@kriskerpuchki1311 3 ай бұрын
agree!Tot vs Arsenal is an absolute classic. Probably my favorite game to watch of all
@agamemnon730
@agamemnon730 3 ай бұрын
Even Liverpool Everton is bigger than Utd City
@xNSHD
@xNSHD 3 ай бұрын
sorry utd liverpool isnt the biggest game anymore its liverpool city since its actually a contest.
@kriskerpuchki1311
@kriskerpuchki1311 3 ай бұрын
@@xNSHD no doubt as a diehard Liverpool fan the games against City are on another level pretty much in any aspect.
@brianguthrie3196
@brianguthrie3196 3 ай бұрын
I'm an Arsenal fan and I have to agree
@hectorr6299
@hectorr6299 3 ай бұрын
Man City's B Team are more competitive than Man United's starters
@SuperFredc
@SuperFredc 3 ай бұрын
That`s a disgraceful comment. The Ladies and under 13`s are!!
@MrsRhianne1996
@MrsRhianne1996 3 ай бұрын
Liverpool v man utd is NOT a Derby. A Derby is 2 teams from the same City playing each other. Ffs! Real Madrid v Athletico is a DERBY.
@muhammadhanif4113
@muhammadhanif4113 3 ай бұрын
NLD is the biggest followed by merseyside derby.
@mir-944
@mir-944 3 ай бұрын
“Nervous and worried ”😂😂 that’s what my friend said.
@ozkaz9408
@ozkaz9408 3 ай бұрын
Liverpool v City is now the biggest game
@benedictadeya8370
@benedictadeya8370 3 ай бұрын
not a derby though. Game, yes
@xNSHD
@xNSHD 3 ай бұрын
@@benedictadeya8370 biggest derby, tottenham arsenal. people actually wanna see who will win. utd city its a full gone conclusion almost.
@seckie1001
@seckie1001 3 ай бұрын
The biggest competitive Derby was probably Liverpool/Everton when the league title didn't even leave Merseyside between 1982 and 1988
@jackhewitt600
@jackhewitt600 3 ай бұрын
I feel like its lost its magic as one side is so far ahead of the other. Kind of like Liverpool and Everton no one really cares about that except the older fans from the 80s when both were giants.
@danielgarepis-holland3214
@danielgarepis-holland3214 3 ай бұрын
NLD is better than the Manchester derby because both teams have actual fans who live in that city and go to the games, also the games are more exciting and balanced rather than city dominating
@Christopher_J
@Christopher_J 3 ай бұрын
As a neutral, I always find the North London Derby to be more compelling based on the animosity between the two clubs involved. Always a good game!
@gavinmacfadyen1370
@gavinmacfadyen1370 3 ай бұрын
Atmosphere isn't the best but I agree always seem to be cracking games
@gavinquinn2219
@gavinquinn2219 3 ай бұрын
Celick v Rangers is the biggest derby in Britain by a mile.
@benedictadeya8370
@benedictadeya8370 3 ай бұрын
British football is a global product. No one cares about Celtic vs Rangers outside Britain. No way its bigger.
@brenb70
@brenb70 3 ай бұрын
It’s up there with Ipswich/Norwich and Bristol Rovers/City
@robertmclellan3658
@robertmclellan3658 3 ай бұрын
Celick?
@Behold__Optic_Blast
@Behold__Optic_Blast 3 ай бұрын
Not really the biggest derby when nobody in England bothers watching it.
@rossdavidson9776
@rossdavidson9776 3 ай бұрын
Im scottish and spent my whole life watching scottish football. And yeah the old firm is huge. But the standard of both teams now is very VERY poor. The old firm isnt what it used to be but still huge.
@stevenjohnson7442
@stevenjohnson7442 3 ай бұрын
North London derby is bigger.
@NJDevilsUK
@NJDevilsUK 3 ай бұрын
“I don’t know any city fans” yeah cause you’ve never stepped foot in Manchester 😂
@martinpeters9753
@martinpeters9753 3 ай бұрын
I live in Manchester and dont know any utd fans 😂😂
@ForzaMilan-di2zd
@ForzaMilan-di2zd 3 ай бұрын
All Utd fans r from the South. I went to Wembley with genuine Pompey fans back in 08’ to watch Pompey Utd. Then saw lots of coaches from Dorset full of Utd glory hunters fans 😂
@andrewhylton8712
@andrewhylton8712 3 ай бұрын
The only way Man United will win is if Rat-Faced Bruno can pull off some of his Olympic dives for a couple of pens. Only then do they stand a chance?
@Cropsy-yy9wg
@Cropsy-yy9wg 3 ай бұрын
utd vs Liverpool is a big game to the plastics who never saw Everton or City fans in London, Belfast, Oslo etc. Paul Scholes even said the same.
@Mikejames1080
@Mikejames1080 3 ай бұрын
Darren all City fans are in Manchester buddy. Come up here and meet us. We never had glory hunters where you're from or any other parts of the country like other clubs.
@ryanmolloy3985
@ryanmolloy3985 3 ай бұрын
The way Andy goes on about United as if theyre still a great team. Should ask him what he thought of liverpool in 2000 and the early 00s, same time gap since they had won the league. Andy is a clown
@50pence59
@50pence59 3 ай бұрын
Brilliant call!😂 Get more cabbies unsuspectingly jumping on punters for football input. MAGIC! 🤣🤣🤣
@kingpooh6429
@kingpooh6429 3 ай бұрын
North London Darby defo more exciting for the neutral
@callumthompson6283
@callumthompson6283 3 ай бұрын
Only teams that genuinely hate each other
@crash17289
@crash17289 3 ай бұрын
Chelsea Spurs games are so under the radar here. Some fantastic games between the two for the past couple seasons
@kevclark8661
@kevclark8661 3 ай бұрын
ive hated chelsea my whole life as a gooner but having worked with 3 scousers for the last 5 years i was desperate for them to beat Liverpool in the final last week
@semiseriousgooner
@semiseriousgooner 3 ай бұрын
This is why Tottenham aren't as disliked in the North of England. Nobody really knows any spurs fans. There's a reason that Arsenal, Chelsea, West Ham, Brentford, Millwall, Palace and Fulham fans all hate spurs. Gobby with no teeth.
@paulmartin9194
@paulmartin9194 3 ай бұрын
Benty just stated what ive said for years. As a football fan i could watch Man Utd and respect their achievements. It was the fanbase that turned people away.
@gmanlimitedanderson-0drisc211
@gmanlimitedanderson-0drisc211 3 ай бұрын
lfc fan here i can't believe I'm saying this but i want united to win for obvious reasons but it just won't happen 😂
@yokermn
@yokermn 3 ай бұрын
This Andy guy is on one hell of a drug!!!
@damianduguid6253
@damianduguid6253 3 ай бұрын
If Bent wants Ars to win the title then he should want man u to win
@mofirminhosadiosalahrobert4904
@mofirminhosadiosalahrobert4904 3 ай бұрын
Goldstein shouldnt be allowed to talk about united , he is so biased it becomes ridiculous
@filmonberhane4255
@filmonberhane4255 3 ай бұрын
I prefer Arsenal vs Man Utd more than Arsenal vs Tottenham.. 😅😅
@lozcontreras
@lozcontreras 3 ай бұрын
Manchester derby has NEVER been the biggest! As a Man United fan our games against Liverpool and even Leeds to an extent are bigger.
@AlexFearn
@AlexFearn 3 ай бұрын
So agree with Bent
@willdogon1874
@willdogon1874 3 ай бұрын
The fact it's allowed to take place in the afternoon shows immediately it's not fierce in the slightest
@killasstay6245
@killasstay6245 3 ай бұрын
Nobody: Daren Brent: PRRRHH!
@joefernandes4256
@joefernandes4256 3 ай бұрын
Ars vs Tot rarely that boring or one sided.
@jordanwillrog
@jordanwillrog 3 ай бұрын
These two need to do a top gear and get their own show with cundy and o hara on the other side
@vincentndabazandile1215
@vincentndabazandile1215 3 ай бұрын
Pls tell me if the foul about hard or soft ?
@Matthew-bu7fg
@Matthew-bu7fg 3 ай бұрын
"biggest derby in the premier league" how? The Manchester United supporting Londoners can't go to school or work on a Monday morning and taunt their Manchester City supporting friends... because they're from London. The biggest derbies are outside the premier league anyway Millwall vs West Ham Blackburn vs Burnley Bristol City vs Bristol Rovers Ipswich vs Norwich Wolves vs WBA Villa vs Birmingham Forest vs Derby Newcastle vs Sunderland
@paulchristiepureblood146
@paulchristiepureblood146 3 ай бұрын
Man u are gna get hammered by man city. The score is probably gna be on a par with when liverpool beat em 7-0..
@samwilsamwil-pr6so
@samwilsamwil-pr6so 3 ай бұрын
Tyne and Wear is the biggest in England and only second to the old firm in the uk
@awais6789
@awais6789 12 күн бұрын
It’s a massive massive derby no question about it
@Daniyal731
@Daniyal731 3 ай бұрын
Its doesn't even come close to the wales derby(swanswa cardif)
@glens1800
@glens1800 3 ай бұрын
There is only one derby and that’s the North London Derby 🐎 all others pale into insignificance
@anelisatyutwana6693
@anelisatyutwana6693 3 ай бұрын
😂😂😂Best show on talksport
@sk8r852
@sk8r852 3 ай бұрын
United fan that isn’t from Manchester what a surprise the sky is blue
@DMG118
@DMG118 3 ай бұрын
Man Utd/Liverpool is called the Northwest Derby
@graememarsh
@graememarsh 3 ай бұрын
This is the sorta game where UTD win from goals by Rashford & Bruno….how it usually goes isn’t it?
@LukasMatejka-du5hb
@LukasMatejka-du5hb 3 ай бұрын
by sheer commercial numbers, it's probably still Arsenal vs. Man Utd(because of the history and size of the fanbases)...... but on competitive level, it's obviously Man City vs. Liverpool at the moment...... at a local level, it's obviously NLD(since Spurs gained a lot of global fans too in last 10-20 years)...... commercially, the only derby similar to Arsenal vs. Man Utd is probably only "El Clasico"
@ForzaMilan-di2zd
@ForzaMilan-di2zd 3 ай бұрын
Biggest derby is Brighton Palace
@bevsterbanton
@bevsterbanton 3 ай бұрын
NLD is the biggest and best.
@emelnwoye4449
@emelnwoye4449 3 ай бұрын
I used to think TalkSport was trashy but i am starting to turn a corner a bit
@mofirminhosadiosalahrobert4904
@mofirminhosadiosalahrobert4904 3 ай бұрын
im questioning Bents ability to think properly
@harryn1602
@harryn1602 3 ай бұрын
united vs city is like Fulham vs Chelsea. city are too strong to make it entertaining.
@totsh2056
@totsh2056 3 ай бұрын
How arr el classico and derby d'italia derbies but Liverpool Man Utd isn't.
@citythink
@citythink 3 ай бұрын
“Place entirely subjective opinion here.”
@markpurdie7608
@markpurdie7608 3 ай бұрын
Liverpool v Man utd easily the biggest fixture in Britain
@Cropsy-yy9wg
@Cropsy-yy9wg 3 ай бұрын
To plastics who live outside of Manchester and Liverpool. There weren't that many City and Everton fans in London, Kent, Belfast in the 90s.
@straightouttacornwall
@straightouttacornwall 3 ай бұрын
Ignoring the comment above I agree. Villa v Brum is a big game to but only to the city of Birmingham I guess?
@kennydeary957
@kennydeary957 3 ай бұрын
Celtic v Rangers is biggest derby
@ljheyes8163
@ljheyes8163 3 ай бұрын
Liverpool city is the biggest games but Liverpool United is the biggest rivalry
@garywallace5602
@garywallace5602 3 ай бұрын
The Manchester derby has only occurred 4 times Andy. Twice in 2011/2012, and twice in 2012/2013. All other years have been dominated by one or the other.
@Tarek_ElMaddah
@Tarek_ElMaddah 3 ай бұрын
I remember that classic one when Pogba scored a brace and United made a decent comeback from 2-0 to 3-2
@Quattro_Joe
@Quattro_Joe 3 ай бұрын
NL derby is the biggest derby but the biggest game is Liverpool v Man U.
@thomashopley2705
@thomashopley2705 3 ай бұрын
Dom, you’ve been cooked m8😂 FairPlay to him tho, funny bloke and I don’t even think he was lookin to be.
@keenandaunt2390
@keenandaunt2390 3 ай бұрын
Man utd fans still thinking their relavant
@Pad13
@Pad13 3 ай бұрын
AG is the biggest troll on the internet.
@robertgrant008
@robertgrant008 3 ай бұрын
That was funnny 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@scottmcclintock1447
@scottmcclintock1447 3 ай бұрын
United v city isn’t the biggest derby…. As most United fans would cheer for city to beat Liverpool proving their hatred for a rival over a derby…. You will never see Everton fans cheering for Liverpool and you will never see Liverpool fans cheer Everton under any circumstances
@Scapegoat1
@Scapegoat1 3 ай бұрын
We not in school so we don’t know but guarantee most kids support city especially with haaland now
@thenee6ynerd
@thenee6ynerd 3 ай бұрын
they have everyone lol
@Afcyasiin
@Afcyasiin 3 ай бұрын
Can’t be a derby when United fans have been cheering their neighbours to win the league multiple times
@henrylim6990
@henrylim6990 3 ай бұрын
Goldstein is the only one who believed a draw.Again, it is proven he talks from the heart, not his brain given.Though Arsenal and Liverpool 's fans would love to believe what he said.
@robertgrant008
@robertgrant008 3 ай бұрын
As a Arsenal fan I hate to say it but Manchester United must win or draw .
@kylereed3357
@kylereed3357 3 ай бұрын
Liverpool v Man Utd is more of a Derby than this lmao
@parmvirvirk8959
@parmvirvirk8959 3 ай бұрын
Liverpool vs Man City is way bigger in the modern era. Historically it's Liverpool vs Man Utd. As a Liverpool fan, come on UTD!!!
@johnvalentine8941
@johnvalentine8941 3 ай бұрын
absolutely laughable, historically liverpool united was a nothing game before the 70s, the manchester dderby was always the biggest derby historically
@harrisonwild8050
@harrisonwild8050 3 ай бұрын
I see where benty is coming from, I’m a Liverpool fan and I’m finding it very very hard to want Utd to win 😂😂😂 my hatred for them is unmatched
@totsh2056
@totsh2056 3 ай бұрын
Man utd fans are the worst. And they're everywhere. I totally understand. In my heart of hearts I'd really like a draw. But one of those draws where it should've been 6 - 0.
@ghettablkgffb
@ghettablkgffb 3 ай бұрын
No.. and Liverpool man u the biggest up north derby.. arsenal and Tottenham the biggest derby for now in my opinion. Because both teams are doing well that's why I pick the north London derby
@renderxtravels8464
@renderxtravels8464 3 ай бұрын
Its City vs Liverpool 😂 what are we even doing here 😂
@josephokwechime7619
@josephokwechime7619 3 ай бұрын
How’s that a derby 😅
@renderxtravels8464
@renderxtravels8464 3 ай бұрын
@@josephokwechime7619 how is Liverpool vs United a Derby??
@watermarginramsgate180
@watermarginramsgate180 3 ай бұрын
@@renderxtravels8464 Arsenal vs Spurs best English derby
@presacanariox2558
@presacanariox2558 3 ай бұрын
North London Derby is the best in England tbh
@ForzaMilan-di2zd
@ForzaMilan-di2zd 3 ай бұрын
Utd & their fans r living on the past. Utd have won a League Cup, FA Cup & Europa in about 10 yrs
@dave93x
@dave93x 3 ай бұрын
Liverpool and United is the biggest derby purely because of the history and the rivalry stretching back. And it is a derby, it's the North West Derby. United and City only really kicked off in the last 15 years and it's still not like the Liverpool match.
@iSwearToCod
@iSwearToCod 3 ай бұрын
you just mentioned two unknown teams
@dave93x
@dave93x 3 ай бұрын
@@iSwearToCod what
@iSwearToCod
@iSwearToCod 3 ай бұрын
baited confusion@@dave93x
@dave93x
@dave93x 3 ай бұрын
@@iSwearToCod ok
@iSwearToCod
@iSwearToCod 3 ай бұрын
@@dave93x forced reply
@Cropsy-yy9wg
@Cropsy-yy9wg 3 ай бұрын
Arsenal and Tottenham fans are deluding themselves that the NLD is the biggest. No one cares but you, how can any match with spurs in it be that big.
@howlieMCFC
@howlieMCFC 3 ай бұрын
City the rags isn’t big it’s just another game for us
@tommay1959
@tommay1959 3 ай бұрын
Andy it’s not anymore
@DMM6
@DMM6 3 ай бұрын
The NLD is the biggest derby. Period.
@owenjj93
@owenjj93 3 ай бұрын
Goldstool hasn't got a clue
@getinvolvedmt
@getinvolvedmt 3 ай бұрын
It's the biggest Derby for United fans
@liberalslayer7220
@liberalslayer7220 3 ай бұрын
The Chelsea Vs Tottenham have been the best derby match in the hatred passion and excitement that comes with it
@watermarginramsgate180
@watermarginramsgate180 3 ай бұрын
Nope Arsenal vs Spurs has always been bigger
@martinsulewski
@martinsulewski 3 ай бұрын
Itl be a 5-0 bashing 😂😂
@tonyh8965
@tonyh8965 3 ай бұрын
Manchester United is arguably the biggest in the world & without question the UKs biggest club it’s not even a debate. Other clubs are more successful at the moment but not bigger. Two completely different things. Leicester won the league in 2016 were they bigger?? Man City are making a name for themselves but bigger? That’s laughable.
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