Everything WRONG With Silent Hill Homecoming

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With the announcement of the Silent Hill 2 remake among other new Silent Hill content, it's fitting to take a look back at one of the many Silent Hill games that attempted to replicate Silent Hill 2 and completely failed, namely Silent Hill Homecoming.
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[@JohnSmith-iw1wd]

23:37 There is some symbolism at work here. Halloway killed her youngest daughter by suffocating her with her hands, that's why her monster form is called Asphyxia, and you kill her by "unsuffocating" her, taking the hands off her mouth.

[@Wolfbane382]

I was about to say the same thing.

[@IESUproductions]

20:00 It's worse than that. That's actually supposed to be *James'* jacket, as in the protagonist of SH2. It's a holdover from an earlier version of the story where Elle would turn out to actually a grown-up Laura.

[@truthache8560]

Still a better story than Twilight.

[@Yayofangamer16]

OH MY GOOOOOOD I REMEMBER THAT

[@blunderless]

i actually don’t see alex or james’ jacket, y’all be tripping

[@Diesel_Hydro117]

@@truthache8560 Fuck outta here with that ancient ass meme

[@thegreatmightyd]

That still doesn't make any sense. Why would Laura have ended up with James's jacket? Just because they were in the same game?

[@truthache8560]

The asphyxia boss was killed by suffocation. So the fight she has her hands smothering her, but when Alex let’s her breathe the air chokes and kills her.

[@Yayofangamer16]

One of the only times the game was great tbh

[@indieoddjobs4766]

I honestly found the reverse symbolism kind of weird. So the previous boss dies and falls down an endless hole in the ground to symbolize how Joey was buried alive never to resurface. Cool. Yet the way Alex kills Asphyxia is by forcing it to breathe when it was the lack of oxygen that killed the kid? I couple this with Alex's hilarious bull rider impersonation being pretty funny lol

[@truthache8560]

@@indieoddjobs4766 LOL I didn’t say it was perfect but it is a pretty neat concept. It’s Barkeresque the sadomasochism

[@indieoddjobs4766]

@@truthache8560 Sorry wasn't trying to imply much more than I enjoyed the laugh that it brought me initially. Homecoming devs did their best I'm sure lol

[@truthache8560]

@@indieoddjobs4766 No bro you gave me a laugh 😂 I was trying to give them credit. The more you got me thinking though I’m like damn! Maybe have the boss being the one smothering the girl in her? Like Adel and Rinoa from FF8.

[@kimmychan7725]

The 'No wait, stop, I cant possibly run after you' always makes me laugh, awesome video 🤣🤣

[@tairyu2574]

I haven’t thought about this game since it’s Zero Punctuation review … 11 years ago.

[@alldayagain]

I take it you never saw Two Best Friends playthrough of this game

[@tairyu2574]

@@alldayagain no i have not. Looking forward to it.

[@alldayagain]

@@tairyu2574 they aren't together anymore, but they played through most of the classic survival horror series for good and bad alike.

[@citizensnips2400]

@@alldayagain are they not friends anymore?

[@alldayagain]

@@citizensnips2400 the main two aren't. A mix of creative differences and abrasive personalities. So the group split. They all still maintain their own individual online content productions, and two of them (Pat and Woolie) have a small collab called CastleSuperBeast that the work on together.

[@TheMrTraynor]

On my first playthrough I got the bad ending because I didn't SHOOT MY MUM IN HER FACE! Moral choice games can be weird.

[@oxeexo6540]

Mom**********???????

[@bitwawesome1]

It’s a mercy killing

[@indranilroy4822]

It's weirder if you consider that the ufo ending was bunched in with the other normal endings so you can get it on your first playthrough by making normal decisions like not forgiving the parents for Alex's crappy childhood and saving wheeler

[@BionicleJuice5]

@@oxeexo6540 I know it's probably hard for you to believe, but there's a world outside of America.

[@Itzdafreakinbat]

​@@BionicleJuice5I think he was joking but I don't understand his joke tbf

[@bondedcastaway3085]

You don’t know how much I love these videos 😭

[@mrdee2454]

I do and I'll tell no one

[@bondedcastaway3085]

@@mrdee2454 😂🤣😂

[@camwyn256]

That seems to be an articulation issue on your end, than an understanding issue on Dartigan's end. ;p

[@abrahamafram3378]

Do you know someone named Rankiro jd

[@abrahamafram3378]

!!!????

[@LockeGran]

I do agree the fixation towards SH2, in general, is tiring and Konami doing a remake of it is simply because they *know* it would sell like crazy no matter what. I'm just hoping Pyramid Head won't ever return since that thing became a staple of the series when it shouldn't, but I know it won't happen. At least they have other projects going on even though I'm a bit skeptical about all of them. Anyway, I'm interested in The Medium for the following video. Also, your other video recommendations blocked the voting screen at the end.

[@cipherreese8877]

12:11 I’m glad the boss design got a special mention, as they’re probably the best part of the game. With the final boss in particular, the way it enters is more of the quiet horror the game really needed

[@ebenezerspludge8369]

Yeah, I know they make fun of it but other than SH 1,2,3, and 4. This was my next favorite. I liked the combat, Monsters were great designs, The hell world transition was just like the originals and the endless supply of monsters in town made it tough to just roam around.

[@michaelthecoffeedrinker9077]

29:45 The final boss symbolize Alex guilt of accidentally killing his brother and also Joshua anger towards Alex. The spider like behaviour symbolize Joshua love for Insects and spiders. The pageant woman is also symbolize how protected Joshua parents were over him because they knew what they gonna do (hence you are protected of a pregnant woman) their aslo symbolize how Joshua died. Drowning in a very cold lake that probably sent Joshua into hypothermia. It shows how pail and gray the woman is. It legs shows this too as it rusted and decade as metal exposed too water can go rust of course

[@orlandofurioso7329]

Nice explanation, thank you for the new perspective

[@inthedeadhours]

I recall before this game even came out people had accurately guessed the twist. Also he killed Asphyxia by removing the hands from its mouth and forcing it to breathe in contrast to how the girl it represents was asphyxiated to kill her.

[@BoosterLane]

This game could have been better. Maybe it should have been solely about the relationship between Alex and Josh than the sacrifice for the cult. Maybe how Alex loved his brother but hated how his parents preferred Josh over him which caused some resentment toward him.

[@cappedminer369]

if only half the story wasn't cut from time restraints. it would have been better

[@marbles8641]

The nurses are a signature Silent Hill enemy, they were in the first 3 games. However the "Sexy Nurses" should not be signature, as you pointed out they were part of Jame's psyche. Supposedly in Homecoming, the nurses are sexy because they represent Alex's repressed libido, and how he feels Nurses and Candy Stripers were over sexualized by the military to comfort soldiers.

[@Yayofangamer16]

But he was never in the military tho

[@Dayz3O6]

Meanwhile Murphy fetish is lingerie mannequin in downpour.

[@ebenezerspludge8369]

Dam Marbles you know a lot of interesting stuff about Silent Hill. They need to hire you to write the story for one of the next games.

[@marbles8641]

@@ebenezerspludge8369 i read alot of wikis.

[@ebenezerspludge8369]

@@marbles8641 That's cool. Thanks for informing us all in the comments. I love most of the SH stories so it's cool to hear some things explained.

[@chrisclayden8160]

Travis had no problem driving through because they weren't in Silent Hill, they were in Shepherds Glen, Silent Hills sister town. Mentioned a few times them being in silent hill in the first half of the video when they hadn't even gotten there

[@orlandofurioso7329]

Also i think Homecoming is a prequel which takes place at the same time as Origins

[@michaeljaysutherland1016]

the entire point of homecomings plot is that it happens after 3 in a world where the cult is destroyed and has to be reformed. not to mention that travis is visibly and audibly older, and theres no way he could grow a beard overnight. as well the fact that parts of central silent hill have actively eroded and fallen off into the lake + theres entirely new buildings there that have never remotely been mentioned before. *most* importantly: if the children have to gets sacrificed every fifty years, and a totel of four generations have been sacrificed, and shepherds glen 1as founded in the 1850's, *and* alex was gone for a few years, then the game would have to take place in the mid to late 2000's

[@marbles8641]

That's the weird thing about Pyramid Head, he was created from James' psyche to punish him over the guilt of killing his wife. However in Silent Hill 2, you also find out that outfits similar to Pyramid Head existed in Silent Hill centuries ago as executioners of the various cults and sects that settled in the town. These depictions were in Misty Day, Remains of the Judgement and Crimson and White Banquet for the Gods. It was from these the Pyramid Head that stalked James was created. So there were things similar to Pyramid Head in Silent HIll, and I can see it stalking the halls.. the problem is, like the nurses.. it's always James' version. On the same topic, the creator of Pyramid Head has been upset with the misuse of the character, and even the Lead Producer of Konami did NOT want him in Homecoming, however the devs overruled his opinion and gave him that cameo,

[@PawciopPL]

It makes sense for James since he visited Silent Hill Historical Society with Mary at some point during their trips so his subconcious could relate it with town and punishment

[@JohnSmith-iw1wd]

I don't think Misty Days is a real picture, it only exists in the Otherworld as a creation of James' mind. It was the other picture, depicting cult executioners, the one that stuck in his mind and brought Pyramid Head to life. The important thing to notice about Pyramid Head is that his helmet is simply impossible for a human to wear, so real cultists couldn't have possibly dress like him, ergo Misty Days cannot be a picture in the real Silent Hill Historical Society.. Instead they wore conical hoods, which James' mind warped into an impossible metal helmet. Masahiro Ito talked about he designed PH with that in mind.

[@marbles8641]

@@JohnSmith-iw1wd Misty Days was in the Mist World portion though, which is a more valid reflection of the town.

[@loneronin6813]

The only real physical difference I noticed between Silent Hill 2's Pyramid Head and the one in Homecoming is that in Homecoming the blade design of the great knife Pyramid Head wields is made to look like a combat knife instead of what it was in Silent Hill 2. The creators of Homecoming can make any excuse they want about why they shoe-horned Pyramid Head, the nurses, etc. from Silent Hill 2 into other Silent Hill games, but I will never give it any merit save for them trying to get fans of the series to get into playing whatever game they're hocking. I can't say I've truly loved a Silent Hill game outside of one through four. I know people usually don't like Silent Hill: The Room, but admittedly I do, and I've heard some people really enjoyed Origins and Downpour, but I wasn't big on either one. I don't hate them, but they just weren't something I ever saw as praise-worthy. Downpour repeated many of Homecoming's cardinal sins in my opinion. Origins just felt kind of derivative and essentially repeated a lot of what had come before but lacked enough of its own charm and merits that would've improved the game overall. I could go on, but let's face it, most people would just give this whole comment the old, "Too Long; Didn't Read," excuse, but in this case I can't say I blame them.

[@dvdbox360]

And that's why I like downpour more because at least it have bogeyman

[@Beeyo176]

I always kind of handwaved the "if he was never in the military how could he fight?" thing on the reasoning that Alex probably had a lot of anger problems growing up and got into frequent fights. He was bound to pick up a trick or two

[@Saddonghussein]

Hes dad was on the army, normally army kids learn some moves by their dads

[@wilderbeast9368]

The military was his hobby. He obviously learned a thing or two about CQC and the like, and practiced it too.

[@camwyn256]

@@Saddonghussein my Army dad taught me those techniques. When I joined the military, I already knew them

[@Saddonghussein]

@@camwyn256 good for you man, so why did you tell me that?

[@camwyn256]

@@Saddonghussein oh. Sorry for agreeing with you. Won't happen again

[@kdmag88]

Sin 93. They do make gas cut-off saws. Essentially a chainsaw but instead of a chain and bar for wood cutting they have either concrete cutting wheels or metal cutting wheels.

[@AzureRoxe]

You mention that the monsters are representations of how the children were killed, but don't understand why pulling Asphyxia's hands away from her mouth kills her?

[@Saddonghussein]

Cus now it can breath

[@sm0kelikeahehim]

21:19 i feel like this one kinda makes sense tho: alex thinks he was a soldier. if he thinks he was in a war, would he not also think that he’s killed humans before?

[@marcofioretti6908]

A different font for the text?! For the Halloween special?! That’s fun!!!

[@tanandalynch9441]

Asphyxia represents Holloway's method of killing her youngest, strangulation. Making Asphyxia breathe kills her because she isn't supposed to be breathing

[@thegreatmightyd]

I still don't understand why the founding families descendants didn't just move away to a different state very far away to avoid murdering their own children every 50 years...

[@orlandofurioso7329]

I don't think a God has a limit of distance, they were not afraid of the cult but of their God.

[@themeangene]

They didn't move away to stop murdering their kids. Every few decades they were expected to kill 1 child to uphold their original covenant. They believe breaking this Covenant will cause God's wrath which ironically causes the spiritual power around Toluca Lake to manifest monsters. The SH cult gets involved because the Mayor becomes radicalized by the experience & reaches out to them.

[@togeproductions6013]

I like the font change Mr. Dart

[@kelerews]

I'll tell what's not wrong... the soundtrack... soundtrack is impeccable

[@AkiraSO4]

This was the ONLY Silent Hill game on Steam for YEARS until the SH2 remake was announced.

[@joshpl5451]

And also the Steam version is pretty shitty. I highly recommend PS3 version instead.

[@orlandofurioso7329]

@@joshpl5451 or the unknown project patch

[@DurableTomb]

I know this is an older video, but there has always been one thing else wrong with the game that has stuck in my mind. When Alex is talking to the mayor, the mayor is drinking from a bottle. When the room shakes as the boss monster is about to appear, you see the mayor with his hand looking like it is holding a bottle, but the bottle is no longer there.

[@citizensnips2400]

I can’t imagine how difficult the Elden ring video has been to make. Glad your able to put other game videos out fairly quickly. Absolutely my favorite media sin channel.

[@togeproductions6013]

Is he doing an elder ring vid???

[@citizensnips2400]

@@togeproductions6013 Hope so! He did a research stream for it awhile back

[@clubkid13]

The fact that the PS3 version for this game didn’t have any trophies made no sense especially when the Xbox version had achievements

[@paulcorvans5767]

I believe it's because the trophies system was a later addition to the PS3. Only a handful of old games have them, but that's because they received a patch later to include them.

[@thegamingprozone1941]

@@paulcorvans5767 yeah mgs4 had trophies and that came out in 08

[@ShinzouMahi]

The trophy was the game itself since it would never leave your shelf and remain as decoration.

[@marbles8641]

As for the Magical Mailman, he was supposed to become a common factor and reoccurring character in the series and all Silent Hill media going forward. Which is why he was in Down Pour, the comics, and Book of Memories.

[@airbo5104]

“I don’t think he’s Catholic” had me laughing out loud in public

[@alldayagain]

20:23 But it's not a beach, it's a lake YOU DON'T WASH UP ON A LAKE, ALEX!

[@camwyn256]

Yup. A beach is where dirt meets water, regardless of what shape that water takes

[@alldayagain]

@@camwyn256 I think your thinking of a shore. My point is that the game thinks you'd wash up with the tides, when lakes don't have tides.

[@camwyn256]

@@alldayagain shore. Yup. That was the word I was thinking, though things wash up on lake shores, too. The wind moves the water. Boats and activities of wildlife move things around, too. But, I will admit, I've never seen something as big and bulky like a fully grown adult male wash up on shore...

[@qlasalle]

I can't believed I played this game... ended up enjoying it and beating it multiple times. Lol this is the only silent hill game I've played 😅

[@orlandofurioso7329]

Some responses to some sins: Holloway being captured by the monsters was the punishment for Alex's dad failing the sacrifice, like what happened with Lynch and the mayor. The order captures Elle because, like Alex, she opposes them and is a potential enemy like Alex, even Holloway says so and she says she wants her dead. Also, Joshua died because he got a hit in a part corresponding to the medulla part of the nervous system which triggers the breathing acts and his death was in vain because it was not the parents who killed him, since he is not Alex's son. Also, the cults of Silent hill connect the games, not just the town itself.

[@chriskoloski32]

I think it's safe to assume that none of the 4 main family's would report the deaths of their children, hence why they're all basically "missing". Could you imagine how fast it would be found out they've been killing their own kids if one death was reported especially if they managed to find Nora's body with the strangulation marks on her neck. Sure since they're all basically the most important people in town they could try to quiet down any investigations but that would make it more suspicious. And call me crazy but I don't think Wheeler would believe that Adam wouldn't be looking for missing or dead children

[@chriskoloski32]

Silent hill homecoming was the first silent hill game I was old enough to play by myself, I saw glimpses of 2, 3, and 4 being played by my parents when i was little. This game may be a black sheep of the series but I'll still find enjoyment in it. And I didnt mind pyramid head showing up because i assumed he was part of silent hills history due to all the art and history books that existed about him in silent hill 2

[@orlandofurioso7329]

Yeah makes sense, PH was an executioner in older times

[@themeangene]

The music and monster design and general aesthetics of the ENVIRONMENT should be commended.

[@owlhatch3812]

I think this is the game where you can get yourself stuck physically in a hole in the wall.

[@owlhatch3812]

Or is that downpour??

[@ComicWriter-ml3qt]

5:08 I love your description of silent hill enemies. It sounds…right

[@Sheepscope]

Before I watch this...I just really want to point out that Homecoming has more to do with the movies than Silent Hill 2.

[@dontstop2517]

5:28 mark my words the SH2 remake is gonna be exactly like that

[@Titansilber.540i]

I bet you feel a bit silly right now, considering how good the Silent Hill 2 Remake was. Bloober Team absolutely COOKED with that game, and I hope they remake the rest of the games.

[@dontstop2517]

@@Titansilber.540i lets be honest the remake is way superior than this but the combat its the same: whack whack whack dodge whack stomp

[@Titansilber.540i]

@@dontstop2517 Well yeah, it's not exactly an action game, it's a psychological horror with very little combat elements, so it makes sense that it's not very versatile and developed.

[@KimboKG14]

please go through all the silent hill games at some point. going backwards till the sh2 remake releases. though I will only believe konami releasing another silent hill till finished the game myself.

[@hazzanafrika]

If Pyramid Head is linked to James, why did Walter Sullivan see it too? It's said in the newspaper inside the building's trash bag, in Silent Hill 2. I think Pyramid Head is linked to order and the city. So it makes sense that he is in Shepherd Glen because the pact with the order of Silent Hill has been broken. Order is present in Silent Hill 2, we see it in the prison, where we also find a painting of pyramid head.

[@JohnSmith-iw1wd]

Walter didn't see Pyramid Head, he saw the ghost of Jimmy Stone, his first victim. Stone was a priest of the cult, and he wore a conical hood like that worn by the old executioners of Silent Hill. A painting in the museum depicts said executioners, and Pyramid Head was born when James saw that paiting and his mind associated it with feelings of guilt and a need for punishment. The hood was twisted into a metal helmet that could not possibly be worn by any human being.

[@samflood5631]

Speaking of Walter Sullivan, did he have any close ties with Alessa, Claudia and the other members of the Order? From what I’ve heard, Dahlia raised Walter into believing the Order’s Gods and told him that if he wants to see his mother again, he needs to complete the 21 Sacraments.

[@verakleban7112]

With all the flaws…I love this game. It has got a unique atmosphere - I felt Alex’s pain, fear, desperation. And the songs from this part are so brilliant…forever in my heart❤ “You have your order, soldier..”

[@insomniahobbies]

I used to work for the city, they average 249 lbs. They were just introducing these new "light weight" composite lids as I made my leave. They weigh 20-30% less. So 200lbs.

[@Richln03]

18:00 just to clarify. It's a city called Centralia & it's in Pennsylvania

[@LosMSR]

Homecoming didn't try to replicate SH2, lol. Even so, let's get back of the story. SH5 OG by Team Silent was in fact a sequel of SH2. This story is gonna be about a patient of Brookhaven, his name was one of the names that James saw at the hospital. That means Jack, Joseph, or Joshua. This guy is also a soldier, and the game will be terror at daylight. The game was gonna by SH3, but Konami wanted a sequel of sh1, so this game took the place of SH5. The game created by Double Helix isn't that game, Homecoming was a reboot of the saga, and the elements like PH, or the nurses are from the movie of 2006, not from SH2. This explained places like The Grand Hotel, or the cult. The plot is kind of similar of the OG SH5, this story is about a soldier that returned to his home, but his little brother Joshua is missing. Unlike SH2, this game is about a broken family by the abuse. This abuse was in two ways, to the older brother, he was almost like a pariah, he was forced to do hard work, and was almost wipe out of the family, but the younger brother got the worst part, he was abused by The Boogeyman, which is in fact his father, Adam. The mother like in the case of Twin Peaks of Laura Palmer knew everything, but don't know what to do, she is almost a shadow of her family. So the plot explained us the dinamic of this family, Alex worked really hard, so he was always tired, and we don't know if Adam also punched him. When Alex fainted probably by the hard work, bad diet, and the punches of his father. The father went into Joshua. Crazy that Double Helix tried to make an homage to kubrick with this narrative, a topic of "The Shining". So Alex is doing the rol of Hallorann, while Joshua is Danny. Hallorann tried to protect Danny, but was upscale by Jack. The only thing that this game is similar to SH2 is that like SH2, Alex is probably another tortured soul of the town searching for his brother in that plane over and over, like Angela, Lisa, Eddie, and James.

[@JohnSmith-iw1wd]

7:41 Boy, you haven't seen Danganronpa V3 yet.

[@bravepigster]

Here to watch cause I got stood up at my school homecoming.

[@ojdj3600]

Definitely want to see you sin The Medium since bloober is in charge of the SH2 remake.

[@TheAndrassa]

He actually was going to at the start of the year instead of Little Hope but his editing schedule got bogged down with other things.

[@Artemas_16]

Should've add a sin for secret ending possible at first playtrough. Imagine finishing game and seeing UFO.

[@wilderbeast9368]

What about it? Imagine getting the bad ending in anything, massive incentive to do things right next time.

[@Artemas_16]

@@wilderbeast9368 Because it cheapens expectations and kills the mood (what's left from it). Imagine going from all happened in this video and than getting video where MC is abducted by aliens, in a totally random event. Every other SH made joke ending: 1)Possible to obtain from second playthrough (here's your lovely incentive) 2)Possible to obtain after specific gameplay actions. Here, you can stumble upon it from a first try, simply by choosing random replies to characters.

[@wilderbeast9368]

@@Artemas_16 No, it doesn't. I experienced the game for myself - no ruined mood, no cheapened expectations. Anyone familiar with the franchise is aware there are multiple endings, anyone peering at the achievements list is aware there are multiple endings, anyone willing to so much as take a guess why they are prompted to make explicit choice in-game is all too aware there are multiple endings. And henceforth seeing the fade to black, followed up by an all-new scene at the end, is the cinematic relating to what ending they obtained. Obviously. And when they see the UFO ending - cynics not withstanding, apparently - they laugh. Because it is funny! They felt fear and fought for life as Alex, and... aliens! It is also rather curious; what could have possibly caused the appearance of aliens of all things?! How fun and quirky! Now the player definitely needs to run an additional playthrough! Factually incorrect; there is nothing random about obtaining any of the endings, let alone this one. Splendid mansplain, though entirely unrelated. Your own likes are all to eager to emphasize how unrelated the western games are, remember?

[@Doom_Guy_1977]

I'm pretty sure Cybil Bennett survived the 1st Silent Hill game (depending on if Harry Mason collected the unknown liquid in the Hospital and used it on her in the Carousel fairground scene) since she replaces Rose Mason in the opening cinematic on the next playthrough. Cybil Bennett is also referenced as having survived that experience when Heather Mason looks at various books on shelves in Harry's apartment after his death scene in the 3rd game when Heather states that some of the books were detective novels, meaning Cybil must have recommended them to Harry at some point after their Silent Hill experience, so when the sherif in Silent Hill Homecoming referenced that a cop from Brahms had gone to Silent Hill and nobody had heard from said cop ever again, this statement flies in the face of what would have happened in previous game titles of the Silent Hill franchise.

[@dildojizzbaggins6969]

"... meaning Cybil must have recommended them to Harry ..." Well that's a fucking stretch. I've read some detective-novels. You think Cybil recommended them to me? Maybe Cybil was into erotic fiction, but just didn't recommend it to Harry, and he just liked detective-stuff on his own? Allso Cybil wasn't a detective. She could've recommended novels of regular beat-cops. Do you think every dentist reads and recommends books about dentists? Every person that sorts trash reads and recommends books about garbage-men/women? C'mon, dude, seriously... (:

[@Gamerguy-ud1zo]

I honestly think they wanted to make good games with downpours and homecoming they just lacked any sort of talent for horror games that the original creators excelled at. That's the reality with changing studios as the game will always change because no two people or groups of people in this case can't have the same perspective when it comes to design, character, and story,

[@ebenezerspludge8369]

This game was 10x better than Downpour in my opinion.

[@brianc21324]

I remember the trailer to this when it was first announced I was excited but then I learned that team silent was originally going to do one last Silent Hill but Konami said no due to the mixed reviews that SH4 received and opted to go with a western developer instead. Hopefully these new Silent Hill projects are great and lead to a true 5th one since PT was cancelled.

[@Mafon2]

3:19 - because, it's a dream, d'uh?

[@chiefcombo3900]

Kinda questionable at 29:37, I somewhat agree that Alex was going to kill Alex because it really didn't make sense to bring him on a boat just to talk and the developers changed it up. But the reason the parents treated Alex differently was for Alex to hate them and never come back to them or feel any remorse. They knew Alex was supposed to be sacrificed but, they loved both their sons, This actually tore the parents to pieces and they literally paid for it being torn physically not just mentally.

[@DamBaker95]

2:24 "This is a town that is so determined to screw with a random office clerk that it created a sexier version of his deceased wife to confuse the hell out of him and then proceeded to kill her over and over again before his eyes" is the best plot summary I've ever heard of Silent Hill 2.

[@joserod18]

Your sins are always spot on😂😂 I love this channel!

[@jameswest6232]

I think Silent Hill devs could get away with reusing enemies like Pyramid Head and the Nurses if they used them as the town figures for what they represent (guilt and lust, respectively). You could even perhaps make a game where the monsters play as hints to what trauma a character suffers from

[@PSYMEDIC]

The idea is too good, they can't possibly use this.

[@dildojizzbaggins6969]

No, they're specific to _characters_ not _themes_ And the SH-devs left after part 4, so they can't "get away" with anything.

[@maxrevive592]

Say you don’t know what you’re talking about without actually saying it.

[@brady1407]

I think they are this way actually, the SH enemies all show similar, though not identical, designs. I like to think the town is semi-sentient, but also reuses archetypal monsters. For instance, the nurses in 1 were sort of converted into insane cancers, and they kept attributes of them in 2 and 3. The dogs appear consistently, and split-head enemies seem to re-occur. Also, 0, 2, 3, and Homecoming feature a PH like entity, arguably the Boogeyman of D is the same.

[@paulyiustravelogue]

Thanks for doing a video on SH Homecoming… I was so looking forward to it before it came out. Man, but what a letdown? I couldn’t stand the gameplays and story soon after, and I hurried it up to just finish the rest of the game without having to suffer through it any longer, lol😂 IMHO SH 0rigins was a much more fun game.

[@davidpumpkinsjr.5108]

In defense of Pyramid Head’s appearance in this game- PH’s presence in Homecoming makes more sense than his role in SH2. Pyramid Head is a symbolic executioner in the Order and Alex, who was raised at least on the periphery of the Order, would be more likely to be aware of him than James, who knew nothing of the Order except what he learned during the course SH2. PH also fulfills the role of executioner more clearly in Homecoming, though this can be explained by the fact the James did not know enough about PH to imagine him in his true role. Also, the difference in his appearance between the games can be explained by Alex’s knowledge of the Order as opposed to James’ only vague awareness of the Order. That said, it would have been better if they had created something other than PH for Homecoming, kind of like how they created the Butcher for Origins.

[@TheDeviantPro]

What you just said is a load of crap. The whole point of Pyramid Head that's was James personal monster, it represented James burden for killing his own wife. Pyramid Head has nothing to the with Order/Cult because Silent Hill 2 wasn't focused on the that stuff. The only reason Pyramid Head is in Homecoming because the developers were too lazy and was thrown in because he's "iconic" to the franchise. Homecoming story is rip off of Silent Hill 2.

[@Khalith]

Great video Dartigan. Always a good day when you upload.

[@masonr1666]

My pre-ordered copy of Homecoming was glitchy as hell. Audio and Visual effects would drop. Plus, one of the reason's I liked Silent Hill was the enemies were there to push you forward. If you stayed in a place to long, you would then be attacked. So it was about keeping the player moving. By focusing on the combat more, the enemy became more of an obstacle rather than something to be avoided. Different mental perception. Also, Homecoming was much more of a go to area, eliminate all threats, proceed to next area. Thats Call of Duty. Silent hill was "why the heck are these cans of juice useful?"..."Ohhhh."

[@staufackar2135]

Masahiro Ito (the creator of Pyramid Head) openly said he wishes he had never created him. Even though he never said why, i do belive it has something to do with how misused he is.

[@orlandofurioso7329]

Where's the interview?

[@staufackar2135]

@@orlandofurioso7329 it wasn't a interview, he said that on his Twitter account.

[@orlandofurioso7329]

@@staufackar2135 oh ok thanks

[@samflood5631]

I don’t get why Mr. Shepherd didn’t make Josh the sacrifice after Alex accidentally killed him. I mean the boy did drown. So the whole ritualistic thing would have work out regardless of which child is dead, chosen or not.

[@orlandofurioso7329]

You have to declare it before to the God, this is the detail many are missing

[@samflood5631]

@@orlandofurioso7329 True. But why did Mr Shepard chose Alex to be he sacrifice, not Joshua?

[@orlandofurioso7329]

@@samflood5631 Eh, that's like saying why did the keyblade choose Sora and not Tidus, it's a plot detail, nothing more or less

[@samflood5631]

But there’s another plot hole in this game, the lore behind Shepard’s Glen. According to this game, Shepard’s Glen was founded so people can get away from Silent Hill’s homicidal rituals. But out of fear of enraging the Order’s Gods, the four founders of Shepard’s Glen made a pact to kill one of their children every 50 years, which defeats the purpose of why Shepard’s Glen was founded in the first place. If anything, they could have moved to either Rhode Island, New Jersey, Connecticut, Florida, New York or Mary Land.

[@pr3s151]

“Old man defending himself from a goose with a cane” I died

[@thefreshestslice4105]

Silent Hill is the definition of failing upwards at this point.

[@magnaesca165]

the reason they remake silent hill 2 is because there are millions of video essays on why silent hill 2 is and forever will be the best video game in existence, so really all the blame goes to youtubers.

[@TheSylfaein]

This feels like a weaker part of your 'Everything wrong' series. Several sins don't make sense or are even contradicted by other sins. While i agree Homecoming wasn't up to par with earlier entries (since it heavily relied on action), the background story does have its merits.

[@AnonymousC2218]

1:20 Thank you, you just summed up why I hate Silent Hill 2 Because every game after the 4 team silent Hill games are just a poor carbon copy of Silent Hill 2. Those games can't even be original.

[@chrisbuttonshaw2088]

17:35 how did you know the parts you weren't there for?

[@davidpumpkinsjr.5108]

Keep those Hills a'coming!

[@cappedminer369]

this game Definity needs a remake or reimagining

[@joshf4959]

I can't wait to see what they did with the remake

[@MilestheDirtyMindedGoblin2099]

14:20 I liked that post it note joke 😂

[@CT_Phipps]

29:00: THAT IS SOMETHING THAT HAS BUGGED ME FOREVER! Why did the drowning of his brother not count?

[@orlandofurioso7329]

Because the parents should do it, Josh is not Alex's son. Also the parents have to choice who the heir will be in advance, hence the "i chose you Alex".

[@King-ci8sk]

Ahem. Referring to the first Silent Hill movie as a "misuse of the franchise" is uncalled for. Silent Hill is arguably the best and only good video game to movie adaption still to this date

[@orlandofurioso7329]

I just wish they did not remove Harry

[@cearlach32]

Ok what is with that truck that the portage rides in its a sleeper but the cab and bunk area is not connected your telling me you have to get out of your truck to then get back into your truck to sleep

[@thearmenian5276]

That would of been diesel in that trucks fuel tank. No way that's powering the generator.

[@NoNameBagu]

So weird, my names Josh and my older brother is Alex… that’s wild

[@JohnSmith-iw1wd]

Yeah, imagine two siblings having two extremely common names. Far out, man.

[@-perfume]

​@@JohnSmith-iw1wdbro take a chill pill

[@wwld9823]

what the fuck is wrong with the facial animations in this game? I've seen ps2 games with less robotic faces

[@Unpopular_Duality.]

Silent hill 2 fans make up 99 percent of the silent hill fanbase. All other fans just like other games and mainstream people think they are not silent hill fans because they don't have an alter adoration of silent hill 2 like everyone else. It's pretty much the same thing with resident evil everyone loves RE2 or 4 so damned much that all the mainstream fans think there were no other games in the franchise worth playing or to love outside of the popular games that everyone default loves.

[@Mr333a222]

This game needs an update with trophies on PS3... the Xbox 360 had achievements, just an UPDATE with trophies KONAMI🙏... PLEASE!!

[@Saddonghussein]

The game did explain why his dad was the butcher 3 times in 3 notes

[@MaitreMechant]

"Now I wait to get my hands on the Silent Hill 2 remake to see if they screwed that one up" you mean "HOW they screw that one up" yeah...

[@Justforvisit]

7:30 Holy Hellhole that Silent Hill is, did the developers just rip Elena Fisher's character model out of Uncharted and just used it here???!!!!!!

[@mattbauman55]

8:39 additional sin, that semi would have been a diesel engine and i dount the pump was diesel powered. 😂

[@AlexLee-dc2vb]

the fact that they're remaking Silent Hill 2 puts me in SUCH a good mood Now we just need BluePoint to remake Metal Gear Solid 3

[@MrDash03]

You should do the whole Silent Hill series

[@xiGoinHam]

Doing 2, 3, and maybe The Room would piss off too many people. Criticizing old horror games in general tends to get people malding, but Silent Hill it applies double, people really do put some of these games up on a pedestal.

[@thegamingspothd9557]

@@xiGoinHam like how people put persona on pedestal

[@dylpickle0192]

Anyone else thought Alex looks like Nathan Drake and Elle looks like Elena?

[@Primatron]

I liked this game because it had a lot of SH2 elements with updated graphics and combat, and it wasn't as boringly monotonous as SH2. Plus, you get to become a pyramid head at the end if you make shit decisions. Then you can replay the game in the pyramid head costume. Unlike the majority of Silent Hill fans, I'm easy to please.

[@orlandofurioso7329]

Same as you, the only game i didn't like is book of memories, too repetitive in my book

[@grantpowell4135]

Immune to the force of torque was top notch

[@IHeartGameplay]

I couldn't finish this game to have much of an opinion of it. I got soft locked in the sewers unable to kill any of the enemies and unable to go out and I had gotten so angry at this after restarting the game and having the same thing happen that I never touched it again lmao.

[@wilderbeast9368]

Feel like that's cope, and what you mean is that you poorly managed your resources in this survival horror game, including saves in order to try again, then pussied out. And in that case... Tell me you are shit at video games without telling me you are shit at video games.

[@camwyn256]

@@wilderbeast9368 we won't miss you. Thanks for unsubscribing. Now kindly leave and take your Kevin nature with you

[@wilderbeast9368]

@@camwyn256 Projection and cope. Stranger... Nope. You went out of your way to draw me back. So, I'm here. You're welcome!

[@camwyn256]

@@wilderbeast9368 I'm forcing you to reply? Why are you trying to silence my free speech?

[@wilderbeast9368]

@@camwyn256 Here's a rhetorical follow-up; did you fabricate that entire sentence? Soy Hominem - "Muh free speech!" Silence, pathetic time-waste. Ask questions honestly, and I may just entertain them.

[@imthemetalguy1]

Dude I can't wait to see you try and do a video on scorn

[@Andriej69]

Everything wrong with Homecoming can be condensed to one thing: it fucking exists

[@cappedminer369]

thats a tiring and lame thing to say

[@Andriej69]

@@cappedminer369 Not as lame as actually defending this turd

[@cappedminer369]

@@Andriej69 who defending what turd ?

[@cappedminer369]

@@Andriej69 also saying something is bad because it exists is a dumb critique

[@Andriej69]

@@cappedminer369 You're quite clearly butthurt about me calling Homecoming a turd and saying it shouldn't even exist, which could only mean you actually like this piece of shit game

[@Nekucloud]

The only good thing about this game is the boss designs. The story, characters, and gameplay is just nothing but eye rolls and sighs.🙄😤

[@KMS2K]

14:17 It's Doc Fitch not Vic

[@joesunday199]

I can't read what the 2 options are for the next video. What do they say?

[@JugbandGates]

I feel like the devs actually understood silent hill, but some producer forced them to add pyramid head, coal miners and other stuff

[@silentwraithuk]

Actually the Producer fought against the addition of Pyramid Head. The producers and story writers wanted to add him and overruled the Producer.

[@Streifen1911]

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!! i have watched the Downpour video Like 50 times. been waiting for u to trash some more siLent HiLL

[@louisduarte8763]

0:56 Like Ben "Yahtzee" Croshaw.