Espionage and Intelligence

This talk will look at the art of espionage and intelligence gathering over the last 50 years.
Thursday, May 11, 2017
5:00pm-6:00pm
Room 001, Rockefeller Center
This talk will look at the art of espionage and intelligence gathering over the last 50 years. We will look at the evolution of the tools of the trade and the rules of the trade, and a number of examples of successful espionage episodes will be discussed in relation to the tools and rules. We’ll see how the number of participants has exploded over the past 50 years, and speculate about the path of espionage in the coming years.
Richard M. (Dickie) George joined the National Security Agency in 1970 as a mathematician, and remained at NSA until his retirement in 2011. While at NSA, he wrote more than 125 technical papers on cryptomathematical subjects, and served in a number of positions: analyst, and technical director at the division, office, group, and directorate level. He served as the Technical Director of the Information Assurance Directorate for eight years until his retirement. Mr. George remains active in the security arena; he is currently the Senior Advisor for Cyber Security at the Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory where he works on a number of projects in support of the U.S. Government. He is also the APL representative to the I3P, a consortium of universities, national labs, and non-profit institutions dedicated to strengthening the cyber infrastructure of the United States.

[@awesomesauce804]

This should be a required lecture in every freshman college cyber curriculum

[@lifespanextensionresearch8518]

Lol surr

[@saulhendrix4459]

A smart, experienced and polite man!

[@EbayUsedGoods]

42:00 the way the speaker uses words like "game" or "life" in place of world is something of note! As in "the modern life we're living in" or "an entirely different game in modern times"

[@Mr--_--M]

Very insightful. I very much appreciate the older generation being real about not only the past slip ups of our enemies and allies, but ALSO themselves. Works much better than giving us a rosy picture of how to protect our country. 👌🏾

[@gagemarshall2554]

This was fantastic. Thank you for posting @Dartmouth

[@petrolheadsconcupiscence8081]

Excellent lecture!

[@Bartisim0]

This is the best IT talk ever.

[@dennismayfield8846]

Excellent!

[@mekhribanmamedova1757]

This is sooooo real and so comforting, since it is just sooo true...

[@whatabouttheearth]

Yup, very real, in case of an atomic bomb blast hide under your desk 🙄 Or like in the early 90s when the Royal Canadian Mounted Police investigated how the US used backdoored PROMIS software on them (and ASIO and other Five Eyes countries)?

[@soapbxprod]

If Dickie were Director of CIA today, the world would be a better place, IMHO

[@fromrjwithlove9819]

@@soapbxprod The CIA is still the CIA. They will spread propaganda and crush any attempts to move past capitalism. They are willing to kill Americans to do it, too.

[@haunts3479]

comforting....???

[@osmantekes870]

Excellent overview, fun to listen

[@VikrantSingh-se2zb]

Thanks for enlightened inspired and thought provoking talk.

[@LearnedSome]

Great talk!

[@blobml2601]

Interesting talk! Thanks

[@henrikvilhelmsen6299]

Nice video - you are not alone.

[@icarustheother8591]

Very interesting I wonder he looks like a pilot. Good stuff thank you sir

[@Hermetic_]

6:55 “That’s in NATO”. Reading in between the lines, I think he is saying there are even smarter nations outside of NATO, which the US was not assessed against - which could be even worse for US.

[@seanow8180]

The CIA is getting rolled and murdered out of many regions recently.

[@lachijames6213]

@@seanow8180 They just lost dozens of HUMINT assets in China.

[@kristianturner6]

I love this club, and this guys message many of you critique his message but i understood everything he said. Everything has a beginning and a basic.

[@michaelwalker-es6we]

No I listened, but there's more to the story then he's telling, n the version ur getting is not quite truth its a bit more fiction America is broke like crackhead bottom line.

[@leonidesyama2537]

5th ⁰

[@lukevandeman4914]

Perv

[@soapbxprod]

Bloody BRILLIANT! Thank you, Dickie! You're Mensa level. If we only had YOU directing our intelligence services, the world would be a more humane and moral place. (BTW- I'm 61 and am Herbert Biberman's grand nephew- knew John John Kennedy in HS in NYC, so I kinda know what's what). I recommend Diana West's books... and also: Alger Hiss was GUILTY.

[@scottadkins7322]

This was fantastic...and it explains WHY every new combat aircraft China's come out with in the last 10 years looks strangely familiar, i.e., like our own F-22; F-35; etc. And it really worries me...what happens when (not if) we go to war with China or Russia.

[@akma2501]

making bad aeroplanes that look and are sold as the best, could be useful

[@MonaLisa-lu8zi]

Did he not explain that the old way (war) does not apply now. The rules have changed. He seemed to suggest that knowledge, information, access, with the Internet highway as the major resource path.

[@mdmac5139]

Lol !! Exactly !! The Chinese just steal the designs and copy the plane !! That says everything about " U.S Counterintelligence " !

[@user-dw1zb3fh5n]

There will never be another hot war. The weapons are infinitely too powerful to be used.

[@aniketadhav2737]

Every new combat jets looks similar nowadays as most of them are designed for stealth

[@charlespackwood2055]

Years ago, I wrote some code for a cancer research lab in a hospital. Afterward, the secretary asked me for my code, which I thought was highly unusual. It just occurred to me that it might have been to see if I had done more than what was spec'd out. I didn't give it to her because some people can't write code, but they can hack at it to make other programs. People can't think it all through, but they can take what's there and make adjustments.

[@azizaziz5621]

He was not a target..but a person of interest according to his dossier.

[@HectorHernandez-ec3nd]

everyone is angle if you play your cards right

[@edburns9204]

⁰

[@iceblue1457]

Very interesting . Is that sound system deliberately low?

[@stehfreejesseah7893]

Collage audio always sucks cause they have volunteers running it.

[@lifespanextensionresearch8518]

Hahhaha

[@lifespanextensionresearch8518]

@@stehfreejesseah7893 hahhhaa

[@matthewgabbard6415]

Very interesting. I'm glad at around 34:00 mins in he finally said, "but I'm sure we're doing the same thing as well," haha. The U.S. is not helpless in the intelligence and IT fields. We've been overseeing the world since 1945

[@CensureAsylum]

If this speeker did Ted talks I would attend. I did listen atentivly - Great talk.

[@0phite]

worth of millions

[@wouldntyouliketoknow1894]

Trillions

[@eltorroyirlande]

Good

[@perfectallusion6757]

In cyper world we are all connected , somebody making a bad decision can Impact everybody .

[@Pincer88]

The exact same problem I have with the Net Centric Warfare doctrine. There's no way anymore of ensuring it cannot be compromised, yet the whole western way of military thinking seems to revolve around it. Do the guns holding the big guns have no idea what EW, cyber or human intelligence can do to a system?

[@lenedfm499]

we are the good guys !

[@kp6215]

Wrong the USA is the “bad” you have been fooled again

[@tiberiomach5954]

got to love the imf lackies!!! popcorn time

[@lifespanextensionresearch8518]

Omg I just remembered to look at the comments

[@TheTalkWatcher]

I would like to hear him talk about the Russian Woodpecker and its capabilities. What happened in the AMDOCS 911 case. Were there exploits in the wiretapping system when used in conjunction with the Russian Woodpecker that would allow the Russians to jam Air Force One's communications? Wait, isn't that what happened on 911?

[@JetPackDino]

We can't bust heads like we used to, but we have our ways. One trick is to tell them stories that don't go anywhere. Like the time I caught the ferry over to Shelbyville. I needed a new heel for my shoe. So I decided to go to Morganville. Which was what they called Shelbyville in those days. So I tied an onion to my belt, which was the style at the time. Now! To take the ferry cost a nickel, and in those days, nickels had pictures of bumblebees on 'em. "Give me five bees for a quarter," you'd say. Now where were we

[@colonelkurtz2269]

Grandpa Simpson?

[@MrManny075]

They say people who live in glass houses should not throw stones,

[@NIN674]

The problem is now every citizen is vulnerable because they watch TV news and they can't get out news in their countries anymore. So we are all vulnerable now, the average American.

[@ombr7657]

Switch off TV 📺

[@Franklin-pc3xd]

What the hell are those red antenna things sticking out from the podium?

[@brodalf4969]

The Core System is that we have a system discriminating smart people. And that used to be a Problem that was handleable through brute force but is not anymore today. Instead these people are targeted but left alone instead of listening to their ideas. And the Core issue has been laid decades ago. Then these people get depressed and get lost as a valuable Asset.

[@cgpyper7536]

Why would anyone allow family, friends, etc., etc., to use his/her "business" computer??

[@pwood5733]

Remember this is a spy telling you this …

[@matthewgabbard6415]

It's email

[@masterwaymack1706]

Well, well, well. Nice to finally meet you all. Another part of the mind has opened up to me, and has detected different frequencies.

[@robertfeinberg748]

Not gonna happen. What's exceptional about this country is that we're exceptionally badly governed and have been for a long time.

[@Drewbie176]

The Wilson administration is when things took a turn from the bad to the abysmal, and stayed that way lol. So it’s been at least a century straight so far 👌

[@robertfeinberg748]

@@Drewbie176 I think that's right, and his Navy Secretary was FDR. Both were racists who segregated the military.

[@Drewbie176]

@@robertfeinberg748 yeah, what a dynamic duo those two were. They’re responsible for all the worst elements of both the US government of their day, and its modern incarnation. Except for the modern national security apparatus, which is Truman’s fault. Although Wilson and FDR definitely paved the way for it.

[@robertfeinberg748]

@@Drewbie176 There was Wild Bill Donovan. It became a rogue state that executed a coup against Trump,

[@slimtimesl.l.c4614]

We think rite is wrong and evil is good..you know things of that nature?.........✌

[@ai666]

I am here to slay until the day comes when I become a graduate. Before that I need to learn the inner workings of secretive things. Interesting. I will never tell but I will.

[@brawlpups3517]

Related to John Sloane Dickey?

[@whatabouttheearth]

So like in the early 90s when the Royal Canadian Mounted Police investigated how the US used backdoored PROMIS software on them (and ASIO and other Five Eyes countries)? We don't spy on Five Eyes? This guy needs better mic control and Dartmouth needs better pop filters

[@BigD4446]

Did he mention anything about weaponizing people?

[@MichelleRichee]

Is it a good thing to have this online?

[@whatabouttheearth]

😄 oh...you must be new to the internet This is nothing

[@wally9935]

This isn’t anything of worth or worry. It wouldn’t be online if it was.

[@HE-162]

I enjoyed the bit about how the Russians “look for people with money problems to befriend...for life. That’s their business model”...as if that isn’t the same business model the US employs around the globe

[@michaelcarroll8570]

Sounds like post casino Trump.

[@kxkxkxkx]

Ask them Afghanis lol

[@johannesmohner8695]

Yeah old pricks tLk Propaganda and shit

[@20thcenturyfoxyoutube]

Vichy

[@karti-soor]

".. So Crazy.. Paranoia about every nation of the world...

[@richardmiranda640]

Why are his glasses perched on the tip of his nose?

[@LydellAaron]

32:02 clauses give ground for retaliation. Problem was recognized and addressed. You can only manage risk, never eliminate risk. 58:48 of course you can guard against "unknown threats" unknown threats would be the mathematical inverse of known threats and include average people.

[@1jtwister]

Sadly the hacker community stopped using the term cyber 15 years ago maybe our government should catch up

[@matabeleman]

If this is an NSA man we are in big trouble.....

[@marionlacebal9498]

We're always in trouble

[@soapbxprod]

@@marionlacebal9498 Yes- that's the human condition for humans who want a free society without violence. We're outnumbered by the thugs!

[@GoranThaGreatOne]

@@soapbxprod ...and the most notorious thug that's working against the entire humanity just happens to be...NSA, CIA, FBI and rest of alphabet soup agency thugs...!!!

[@matthewgabbard6415]

I thought he was really smart, what's the problem?

[@MarioBekes]

Tragedy of Western Society, love to talk and present. You will never see Communist or Ex Communist countries talk on open forum "modus operandi of intelligence operations" or at least say " I was doing this and this" however very insightful presentation.

[@lennykoss8777]

💗

[@JonathanHarkerYT]

Dartmouth!

[@lanasmoore]

I’m analog in a digital world

[@muttleycrew]

Well not really, for one thing you have a KZbin account.

[@BassForever44]

Lol isn't that a line from a Gnarls Barkley song ???

[@ryannathanshoemaker7487]

Any thoughts on covid 19 nanobots and how that can be used for this very subject it's happening to me currently and I have no idea how to stop them. The group that hacked into mine use them to cause harm with high pitched frequencys while they use the Bluetooth to communicate.

[@aj2080xy6]

Turn off any Bluetooth on your devices.

[@NIN674]

So what's the solution?

[@jakefromspace4659]

What I have written isn't anything that hasn't been said before. Sorry if I'm making a fool of myself. Nehemiah's Wall. Project Nehemiah. If you aren't above reading the Bible, read Nehemiah Chapter 4. It details how (soon to be) King Nehemiah divided the labor of rebuilding the wall of Jerusalem by assigning sections of the wall to accountable crews; and that the crews were directly responsible for their own defense. It was built so that each man repaired the section of the wall directly in front of his own house, and so, each had a vested interest in building the wall for the common good- as it was to be defended by the builders themselves. This means that each person must be responsible for their own security, thus providing for security in common. To start, start by regulating access to areas that have higher security. This will reduce the attack vector, so that fewer can attack the larger vaults. From there, keep the walls between you and your neighboring area, and further secure your neighbor by hardening internal security, further reducing traffic to trusted sources- and such along the line. In this instance, a hierarchy is established, in which the only ones with push authority are higher up in the chain, and only to their own reports, and the managers directly above him. In practice, nobody lower in the chain has either need nor access to push messages upward in the organizational chart except to their direct manager, and his manager, and certain designated red-button help lines. Diagonally, he may only contact his direct coworkers, and coworkers designated in a chatroom by their managers, or else one higher above them. In this manner, information will be intrinsically safe, in that info will only be shared on a need-to-know basis, and only designated people can send large email bursts. Nobody outside the system, and nobody without prior approval within the system, can send you messages. Only information will be trusted to servers capable of holding it, and nobody untrusted down the line will be given it. As for hacking, it is now a physical and location problem as hackers will be denied permission to travel upstream, except through several successively more severely monitored and filtered gates through each successive manager and their security personnel/system. Basically, it's how the French applied anti-guerilla tactics. Start with a strong area, square off the areas directly contiguous to the stronghold, keep the old defenses,checkpoints and walls between the strongholds, and continue the process until the larger theater is secured. Then, and only then do you attempt to build a more expansive wall around the entire organization. Under this system of compartmentalization, breaches will still happen, but it will be the difference between your bank account being hacked, and the entire bank being hacked. One man can't click an email and sabotage an entire system, except the email goes through several locked and barred doors to get there. Jake R.

[@soapbxprod]

Anarchocapitalism, Rothbard style.

[@jakefromspace4659]

@@soapbxprod I'm not sure I understand, what do you mean?

[@wouldntyouliketoknow1894]

Mind your business and don't talk shit about people you don't know

[@sizzla123]

Scientia Est Potentia

[@akma2501]

low sound is due to secret people at work.

[@richardm4617]

Shhhhhh

[@melonyake36]

It's not low now while I'm listening.

[@stonemagic540]

cell phones- risk sharing

[@marionlacebal9498]

Then Snowden ... awkward..

[@wouldntyouliketoknow1894]

Not awkward..... Cover up for fuck ups

[@santiagosanchez1212]

What about China?

[@headdragondavidaustinsimmo4025]

Gregory Harrison im not sure were hes king from Larry century 21 he man adopted me Achilles

[@lifespanextensionresearch8518]

I'm so tired all the time though lol

[@Wiggles_vs._snuggles]

Check ur thyroid and do a basic metabolic panel blood work

[@lifespanextensionresearch8518]

@@Wiggles_vs._snuggles I'd rather take life extension biomarkers. I think it's bc I was not eating all my of my proper nutrition

[@Wiggles_vs._snuggles]

@@lifespanextensionresearch8518 for sure man, just relaying what a doc would say before prescribing uppers

[@dillonsawyer9377]

Tell the one the CIA put 20M$ of technology into a cat & then got killed crossing the road before it even started to pick up information

[@KevinBullard]

Israeli Intel work in US. Hmm.

[@TheWebMindset]

Israel spies on the US more than anyone, except maybe France and China in very specific areas.

[@emafink3018]

I guess the electronics used for this lecture made in china too...

[@BlindFury00]

I couldn't betray my country EVER!. If I had amazing capabilities of doing good for my country like protecting our cyber security n use hacking for good. Its kinda like having a super power(may seem weird I put it that way but thats how I look at it) so use it for good. And make a decent living. Many c.i.a officers that are retired will tell the public that the couple main reasons ppl turn against their country is #1) MONEY(of course) #2) Safety in a new country for the spy n family or just the spy if no family and I believe #3) SOME ppl just have morals and want to help.

[@aj2080xy6]

MICE: Money, Ideology, Coercion, Ego. They are the 4 general headings people betray their trust, but usually, money or other reward is part of the deal.

[@paulpetroff9856]

🙋‍♂️

[@tbudd5845]

He just can't make the sheep understand. Sad.

[@aaronpedraza8811]

facts

[@headdragondavidaustinsimmo4025]

I live with Frank Sherman he has Pima mole and mole on neak this all kings have pima mole flat mole Germaine word German

[@lifespanextensionresearch8518]

Lol cure cancer and 811 lol

[@thothheartmaat2833]

You're the cia and you don't have a separate laptop to test thumb drives that isn't connected to the pentagon in an insecure way!? You seriously can't afford another laptop!?

[@lanasmoore]

Why? He’d just have to clean two

[@fusion9619]

Hmm... Raspberry pi + tails could solve a lot of problems

[@matthewgabbard6415]

The point is it was an unknown threat, and you can't protect from unknown threats for the most part. I assume it's not a mistake that's been made twice.

[@sharegreats2157]

Russia and Russians? Perhaps the game changed here too. It's more China and Chinese today, or Russians and Chinese together. Apart from this small detail a very interesting speech.

[@t.isurvivalist7537]

If you haven't figured out that this man is lying to you by the end of this video, then you have learned nothing. 😎 The only rule in espionage is not getting caught!!!!

[@LuisMailhos]

They laught of some people that included a clause, in a contract, binding Chinese to not sabotage. Ok. But two minutes later he trust an agreement to not spy with England. It doesn't help much to be half smart.

[@johannesmohner8695]

Yeah very useless...its just about opinions

[@tomdasilva2060]

Well... I and the rest of the world have yet to be convinced that there is a scintilla of "Intelligence", around them thare parts...

[@ttacking_you]

Why do guys get like this when they're old?

[@dr.debbiewilliams4263]

They definitely didn't help me.

[@fusion9619]

He says you can't protect against unknown threats. I disagree. Systems can be decentralized.

[@henrybartlett1986]

U

[@goedelite]

The problem presented by US intelligence agencies is what Harry S. Truman recognized but could not change: the CIA's operational role. Truman, from what I have read, understood the political threat to the separation of powers and the Constitution of an agency that could, protected by secrecy, engage in worldwide operations outside the control of the President and oversight by congress. Truman understood that if democratic institutions were to be preserved, US intelligence should be only the gathering and evaluation of intelligence, not clandestine operations. During his presidency, Truman was under pressure from the far right, people such as J.F. and A.Dulles, and a Republican controlled congress seeking to blame the rise of the PRC on American traitors. Our country has paid a heavy price in blood and treasure, as have millions of innocent people murdered by US aggressive war-making, for the insanity of the American right wing.

[@James_Bowie]

Stupid having to lean over the desk to reach the microphone. Very poor room setup.

[@HumminbirdMoth]

Nowadays， no basement shelter is safe enough against mega ton weapons！！So why bother！！

[@carlitosramirez6013]

Insurance scams for rehabilitation drugs bogus

[@jiiig8667]

Ok soooo.....a spy who, straight from college, works for the nsa for 40 yrs then goes to a university after to teach... Nobody has questions about that?.. Is this policy for intelligence to do that..

[@matthewgabbard6415]

It's the policy of a free society that you can do whatever you want when you retire. As long as he doesn't reveal classified information, what's the problem. The Government isn't some ominous monolith, it's just people like you and me. They do that work for awhile, actually it's a form of public service, and then they do other things if they feel like it. Does every soldier just quit working after his enlistment is up?

[@jiiig8667]

@@matthewgabbard6415 absolutely. But notice no push back. Just interesting that a Marxist is in the group of fascists marketing a 4th industrial revolution as the final solution for humanity re climate change.

[@stedebassett1523]

@@jiiig8667 It's a lecture, not a debate.

[@jiiig8667]

@@stedebassett1523 I meant broadly speaking. I've heard a number of his talks. Not one is he debated.

[@stedebassett1523]

@@jiiig8667 He is a spy tech specialist who is just saying the spy game has changed. He has been around for a long time.

[@headdragondavidaustinsimmo4025]

Up river i got Prince Muhammad of Egypt he name Lord over all

[@andrewlambert7246]

The swedish gov. has spied on my products.

[@AnhTuPhucDerrickHoangCanada]

.

[@headdragondavidaustinsimmo4025]

Theres man going take name he decided king pima mole and your birthmark he owns you ever man with your birthmarks hes grandfather king man he owns everything work together find all kings horses all kings men put your nation back together again

[@awesomesauce804]

So long, Ohio.

[@8877robert]

Free Dr Shakeel Afridi. Pls see FB page of same name.

[@tracythejazzlifer4529]

I was military. The security agency would not grant clearance to people with low credit scores, who were gay, who read playboy magazine and who were all drug or alcohol abusers. Why because the Cold War Russian agencies could potentially bribe you for security secrets. 🤔

[@stehfreejesseah7893]

Sounds like the ruled out a lot of talent.

[@matthewgabbard6415]

That's one good thing about social progress. None of those things is seen as a personal failing anymore, just a disease to be treated, or personal preference.

[@placebojesus5652]

It’s disturbing that this idiot officer he was talking to didn’t realize you can fake attacks form Ohio

[@headdragondavidaustinsimmo4025]

All sin wicked people play mind game trick people because they forgot put God first dont be afraid

[@leonoradompor8706]

The spies who love me hahahwhe

[@trinitrang2932]

What makes US war criminals so righteous?

[@tomdasilva2060]

"What makes US war criminals so righteous?" Easy: an "exceptional" abundance of ignorance and imbecility, nothing new...

[@haroldcampbell3337]

What makes KZbin commenters so ignorant?

[@michaellambeth]

Is the party paying you or are you playing at bootlicking and propaganda for free?

[@trinitrang2932]

@@michaellambeth the yanks should remember to open their torpedo doors before firing at the Chinese last week, am I making sense ?

[@paladancray7242]

Yupp and Hillary/JOE still helpin out hUH!

[@headdragondavidaustinsimmo4025]

DAS rides agin Aztec poeple crucified movie hu and North Asia hu

[@matabeleman]

stop banging the mike please