Darwinism: Modern Man's Great Excuse | James White

[@anonosaurus4517]

"More than half a century ago, while I was still a child, I recall hearing a number of older people offer the following explanation for the great disasters that had befallen Russia: “Men have forgotten God; that’s why all this has happened.” Since then I have spent well-nigh 50 years working on the history of our Revolution; in the process I have read hundreds of books, collected hundreds of personal testimonies, and have already contributed eight volumes of my own toward the effort of clearing away the rubble left by that upheaval. But if I were asked today to formulate as concisely as possible the main cause of the ruinous Revolution that swallowed up some 60 million of our people, I could not put it more accurately than to repeat: “Men have forgotten God; that’s why all this has happened.”" - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

[@NicholasHoughton-gy4vy]

What a hero was Solzhenitsyn! But, I ask with alarm, what genocides does this presage for the West?

[@r0yadams970]

i couldn't AGREE with this brother more. Especially, when he alluded to the 60 million lost. He must of meant or forgot to mention this number are the preborn children executed by abortion alone.

[@steffanrhoads1870]

we’ll have plenty of opportunities for martyrdom

[@mikesamuel9175]

Absolutely FABULOUS testimony, mate!!!

[@mikesamuel9175]

The 60 million or more HUMAN lives destroyed was CARRIED out over a period of more than 600 years by those "bloody murdering" JESUITS and DOMINICANS at the COMMAND of the GENERAL VICEGERENT, the pope of the Vatican, ROME! It's called the "INQUISITION". It's funny though; the god of the PAPISTS must be a GENOCIDAL maniac!!

[@walkerbecker793]

I raised fruit flies last Semester at Whitworth University! Specifically looking at the white eye locus on the X-Chromosome! I'm in Molecular genetics at a "Christian" school and the professor explains everything through Darwinian evolution. So sad because genetics is such a beautiful picture of the glory of God! I should call into the dividing line and talk to Dr white about it!

[@GhostBearCommander]

Thanks for sharing!

[@worldgonemad5866]

Find any evidence for god in your genetics class? Or dies all your evidence come from the bible?

[@walkerbecker793]

@@worldgonemad5866 there is no way for the complexity of genetic replication to happen by random chance. It has to be designed. What came first, the genes that code for the proteins that replicate those very same genes? Or the proteins that replicate the genes that code for them?

[@worldgonemad5866]

@@walkerbecker793 , complexity is not a measure of design. The rest is a series of arguments from ignorance. Do you have any actual evidence that any god has interfered with any biological process?

[@worldgonemad5866]

@@walkerbecker793 you should know by now that evolution is not a "random" process. That is not an honest representation of what evolution is.

[@rickreyn9242]

I started out in premed in a state university in Florida in 1972. I was immediately immersed in evolutionary theory. At the same time I was fortunate enough to hear lectures by the founders of Institute of Creation Research (Dr. Henry Morris). While I did not continue in premed, my topics in prelaw classes like speech and debate later involved this very topic. Heated to say the least. It all starts with the Creator! Thank you Dr. White!

[@jalRVA]

Thanks for not becoming a doctor.

[@randomango2789]

You fell for pseudo science

[@PurePuritan]

​@@randomango2789no u

[@nathan3942]

Feels good to listen to a biblical and simple sermon.

[@ScottTheProtBlankenship]

I don't know what I'd do without Christ Kirk and apologia. Very few churches are teaching these things. Thank you for your faithful work!

[@JoshuaPatrickGarrett]

The believer has the Holy Spirit Who gives understanding.

[@worldgonemad5866]

You'd probably believe in a different god.

[@dalebrown6466]

I went back to college in my 50s. I received my B.S. in Mathematics and Physics (double major). I felt like a secret agent, walking on egg shells for four years. I would often tutor students in the library. Those that were creationists were my favorites. It was very edifying for us to sit after study and discuss our faith and experiences as believers attending the STEM fields.

[@HS-zk5nn]

I have a PhD in Biophysics. I used to be an atheist. Once I applied the scientific method fairly and consistently, the theory of evolution completely collapses under its own weight. There is no way to directly observe evolution, no way to test it, and no way to reproduce the results (since it cannot be tested and there is only one example of evolved life here on Earth). There is more direct observational evidence of God than there ever has been for "evolution". I am grateful that my entire journey brought me closer to God, the teachings of the Bible, and Jesus.

[@aallen5256]

@@HS-zk5nn Could you say a little more about the ‘direct observational evidence of God’?

[@Jus4kiks]

@@HS-zk5nn God bless brother, excited to meet my family in Heaven one day - God willing 🙏

[@HS-zk5nn]

@@aallen5256 New Testament.

[@aallen5256]

@@HS-zk5nn nothing since then?!

[@divinenatureonline]

We must keep having these conversations .. for the sake of human patience and sanity.

[@studiobencivengamarcusbenc5272]

Show me when a godhater ever wanted a "conversation" last time I checked they shifted people into camps ! I asked a student in Germany 3 days ago if the USSR had gulags and concentration camps : She answered "I do not know". Conclusion: Her professor is a socialist liar, Darwin addict and coward. The hour is for bold and militant Christians - compromise is over and wrong even criminal!

[@divinenatureonline]

@@studiobencivengamarcusbenc5272 Very true. But I was referring to those among us who love Christ. :)

[@iaskenny9879]

James White is becoming my favourite theologist

[@mpdebate6239]

30:30 As a young man, this is true and hard to swallow sometimes. Its very discouraging and depressing... My entire generation looks at everything so nonchalantly.. they have no reverence or respect towards anything. Nothing is sacred for them. Nothing is transcendent. Something which is exceptionally sacred and special to God such as sex or the life of a baby in the womb, is now something thats no big deal. They can have a baby cut into pieces and removed and they can have tons of casual sex with whoever whenever and however just cause they felt like it and there's no remorse guilt or shame for them. Its just how they are and how they think... its natural to them. They've become the very embodiment of sin nature. They're exceedingly carnal and depraved... debaucherous and hedonistic at heart. Theres never enough and they're never satisfied and because of that mentality, people are no longer enough for them either... thats why so many in my generation are depressed and insecure and feeling inadequate. Its because they all have this mindset towards people and relationships of every kind thats transactional... its like a business deal. You benefit me in this way and ill benefit you like this and if I get tired of your benefits or want better benefits then ill discard and replace you... ill upgrade to a new person and if you dont like that then you're toxic and I'm cutting you out of my life forever. Everything's about themselves and their lives and their wellbeing and their pleasure. its as if all people are, are just products... some objects to be used. They don't see people as being made in the image of the most powerful and sacred and holy being in existence... instead, they see people as toys or puppets to use or manipulate or to tamper with or to get entertainment from... or they see people as tools that they can use to build a better life for themselves... or they see people as stepping stones for them to walk across to get where they wanna go without a second thought about that stepping stone. No gratitude, no reverence, no purity, no nothing.. its just bad. Very depressing and discouraging. Its truly becoming the days of Noah all over again when there were nothing but carnal depraved minds walking after their own lusts and who denied a creator and who worshipped created things rather than the creator and who loved themselves more than loving God and others and who were exceptionally wicked in all their thoughts and words and deeds and who were bloodthirsty and malicious... who were violent and who cursed at God.. Its really scary to think that very sooon... the great falling away will happen and there might only be a few believers left who go to the very end like Jesus said to do... we'll end up like Noah. the Entire world mocking and scoffing at us... hating us and threatening us and condemning us and judging us. Yeshua is worth the persecution but I won't lie, its still gonna be difficult. But as Paul says, rejoice and be glad for this is a good sign of the strength of your faith for the world persecuted Jesus and all the prophets and men of God of the old testament in the same way before us... and our redemption draws nigh.

[@IronCavalier]

Long, but good.

[@DBdrumz18]

And this is how I would be, and worse, apart from God's grace. God has called us to shine as lights in a dark world. By His grace, and with His help, we are called to share the gospel of Christ with those who are lost, that they might be saved for His glory! I often run from that call, and I fall incredibly short, in action and intent. But praise the Lord for the gospel, that we are only saved by God's grace and not by our works! Please pray I would be bold in sharing the good news! When he saw the crowds, he had compassion for them, because they were harassed and helpless, like sheep without a shepherd. Matthew 9:36 ESV bible.com/bible/59/mat.9.36.ESV

[@gandalfthegrey2171]

I agree. I'm 25, just graduated as a teacher, started my first year of teaching this year, at the first classical school in my state, possibly even the country (it's hard to say). I saw a huge need for children to be able to grow up hearing the truth - from parents and teachers who aren't ashamed of it but love it. One hard thing with my/our generation is that though they are so depraved and nothing has any inherent value or meaning, this is not even acknowledged. They will give all sorts of reasons for why they do what they do - e.g "I need to love myself before I can love others", "I need to put myself first", "I won't take any toxicity in my life" "It's not hurting anyone/there was consent/I live my life, you live yours" there's all kinds of justifications. But try as they might, they cannot actually change reality. You cannot change your sex, you cannot go against God's wisdom, and if you do, there will be suffering and emptiness. This is where we come in, this is where there is hope. Occasions that come to mind, when I have been able to make a significant connection with peers (and my younger non Christian brother) was when I appealed to what they idolize - themselves and their feelings. They know they don't actually feel content and satisfied deep down, and they know that deep down they actually hate themselves (often - people might not admit this but sometimes they will, I've had people tell me they are empty inside, that nothing fills the void, that drugs only numb the pain). If they get to know you and see your life, they can see that you do have true meaning, satisfaction and contentment. I know my brother sees this and is very conflicted because he wants this but doesn't want to live God's way. Join me in praying for him!

[@hardpl8368]

I love hearing truth. Thanks for posting.

[@jackjones3657]

With true Church leaders like Dr. White, our society and the churches therein have a shot of maintaining true freedom and biblical veracity. We need more leaders who speak Truth regardless of its popularity.

[@SheepofTheShepherd-nu3lz]

The unpopularity of Scripture is because Preachers water down Theology to make it digestive for the congregation However, many of us true followers of Christ take issues with men such as White because of the very fact that they are in fact remaining popular, in reality when a true follower of Christ preaches or teaches this message, they won't be popular. Sir was Jesus popular with his words? No, he was hated and killed for what he said. So if that's the case, then guys like White and his buddy Wilson seem to be popular, that is a red flag for us who truly follow Christ Consider your reply if you do

[@SerenityNow22]

@@SheepofTheShepherd-nu3lz seriously?! White & Wilson are not popular! They get so much hate thrown at them. There are entire Facebook pages and KZbin channels dedicated to hating on these men. You’re delusional if you think these men are “popular” amongst the masses. They’re popular among reformed Christians like myself but they are not accepted among Big Eva.

[@SheepofTheShepherd-nu3lz]

@@SerenityNow22 That's exactly what I'm saying Thanks for finally pointing out that they are indeed reformers And yes your right, they do get tons and tons of praise However since I'm not a reformer and not a fan of White, I'm not aware of these hate white/Wilson channels It seems to me White and Wilson lecture I prefer the plain and simple teaching/ preaching of the Gospel And I'm the one that's delusional 🤔😁👌👎 Thanks, looks like my subscription runs out soon Glory be to God on that as well👌 2 Corinthians 12:19 KJV - Again, think ye that we excuse ourselves unto you? we speak before God in Christ: but we do all things, dearly beloved, for your edifying. for you to remember In case you feel the need to discourage

[@BillKron]

@@SheepofTheShepherd-nu3lz In the first part of your argument, you are saying the reason scripture is not popular is because it is watered down. You say this, while maintaining that men cannot be biblically faithful and popular at the same time. This is a contradiction. Was Jesus and was His message really not popular? Was He not crucified, in part, because he was popular with the people? Isn’t this why the religious leaders were afraid to do anything to him (for fear of his favor with the people)? How about the apostles, specifically Paul, Apollos, and Peter. Did not the people argue about in whose name they were baptized? Furthermore, I don’t think you would argue against the viral spread of the gospel in the first century (and beyond), would you? Indeed, Paul said that the message had been made known to “all nations” in Romans 16:26. Finally, you certainly must understand the difference between things that have popularity with the world and what is popular with Christ’s people. Do we not, as Christ’s sheep, desire to be fed with sound doctrine? Is it the man that is popular or is it the message preached that we love? And we would be right to appreciate biblical faithfulness when it is exemplified to us by men. As Paul said, “Be imitators of me, just as I also am of Christ.” - 1 Corinthians 11:1 You should reconsider your argument. God gives more ability to some and less to others. What God rewards is our faithfulness with what we have been given, not with how much we have (see Matthew 25:14-30). Here is a passage that encourages us to work diligently for the Kingdom of God with what we have been given. Let men like White and Wilson, who have demonstrated faithfulness to the sound teachings of scripture, be the ones to answer to their own Master (Romans 14:4). Be sure you are doing the same with what you have been given.

[@SheepofTheShepherd-nu3lz]

@@1Whipperin did not Jesus have one wife? Yes it's called the bride, which is the Church Ephesians 5:25 And since he refer to the church as his singular bride And the fact that 1 Timothy 3:2 KJV - A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach; 1 Timothy 3:12 KJV - Let the deacons be the husbands of one wife, ruling their children and their own houses well. Titus 1:6 KJV - If any be blameless, the husband of one wife, having faithful children not accused of riot or unruly. All three say one wife God condemns having Multiple wives Is that where you were going

[@A-Arons]

Great presentation. God bless you all that helped make this presentation, for those that watch this, and for those that comment on this.

[@eb9450]

1:20 the other way around: Beit Shammai believed in divorce only in serious situations where as Hillel was more liberal

[@danvan2683]

I believe the times we are in are unprecedented in a lot of ways but predictable in others, clear reasoning and truth are bringing people together regardless of their previous presuppositions, it's amazing and worrisome seeing people choosing ideology or propaganda and others noticing things are off, we need a path forward and a way to reach people with the truth we have and the life he offers. Please pray for me.

[@whotookjimirocket]

be strong

[@jaquirox6579]

Excellent! Thank you! 🙏🏽♥️

[@shamounian]

He started with a mistake. It was Hillel that was more lax and Shammai that was more strict in respect to divorce.

[@foghornleghorn262]

Amazing how many "Christian" churches don't believe that a literal Genesis is not a tenet of the Christian faith, and is not a requirement in belief to be saved. Without the first Adam, there is no need for the second. So you tell me.

[@DK-lz7kg]

The New Testament make no such reference saying that Believing in a literal genesis will save you. We are only saved by grace through faith in Jesus Christ. However, Christians that don’t believe in a literal Adam most likely are wrong about other things in the Bible because they already reject plain scripture from the first sentence

[@foghornleghorn262]

@@DK-lz7kg The God of the Old Testament is the Jesus of the New Testament and visa versa. When you do not accept Him as the Literal Creator, you are also denying His crucifiction and atonement on the cross. You either accept all of Him or none of Him.

[@mlwilson2956]

Because a belief in a literal Genesis isn't a tenent of Christian faith. There's no compelling reason to even believe Genesis was ever meant to be understood literally

[@foghornleghorn262]

. By denying God and His creation, you are denying His Sons crucifiction and atonement on the cross. There is no forgiveness of sin, and making God into a lier.

[@DK-lz7kg]

@@foghornleghorn262 sorry you’re still wrong. Believing in a literal genesis has nothing to do with being saved. Does someone that accepts Jesus on their deathbed need to mentally believe that? How about someone that’s literally confused or ignorant about genesis ( a new Christian) then they die the next day and what they go to hell? Buddy you haven’t thought this through

[@raysonraypay5885]

Jesus is my fave Knowing Him makes me happy

[@jackuber7358]

Always appreciate Dr. Whites somewhat parental but always enlighting presentations. As for the subject matter ... It is a profound irony that to be a believer in the posits of Darwin, and the subsequent derivative effluvium, one must do so with a fanaticism of a cultist given that all assertions made by Darwin and his acolytes are circular at best and outright lies at the worst. Oh, and for the haters out their who so quickly snap back with, "and I suppose you take Genesis literally, don't you!" To which I joyously retort, "why yes, I do. And why not, since it was spoken by God, which I offer to you freely for you to accept or reject." But there in lies the glaring gulf between God's Word and that of Darwinism, you are not forced to accept God's Word but you wish to force the lies of Darwinism on me. Question, who is the real oppressor? The one who offers without requirement to take...or, the one who demands subservience to their doctrine of death upon death upon death. I choose life through God's Word and His Son, our Savior and Lord, Christ Jesus.

[@3luckydog]

Wow...love it!!

[@samuelunderhill9400]

Uhh maybe do a simple google search sometime and learn about the Mount Everest size pile of evidence for evolution or read about the creation story’s conflicting narratives and the fact that it was actually combined and completed excluded the passage from Israel’s original text about Adams first wife, Lilith, who was a demon queen. Sounds very believable to you I’m sure

[@3luckydog]

@@samuelunderhill9400 uhhh... that "Mount Everest" sized pile of "evidence" is a pile of dung. There is zero evidence for evolution. Just a bunch of God haters and sycophants spouting nonsense. No evidence of anything crossing the genus barrier, no "missing links" of any kind. You and your ilk are the definition of blind faith.

[@samuelunderhill9400]

@@3luckydog “no evidence” for anything crossing the genus barrier except a literal roadmap of DNA that connects every form of life and individual dating methods of rocks that confirm that the Earth is far older than the 6000 year biblical mode

[@3luckydog]

@@samuelunderhill9400 DNA you say… aka Genetic Code… needs an author. Similar DNA structure shows evidence for God (the Author) and that He wrote/created in the same language. There isn’t proof DNA rewrites itself so apes turn into man. None. The rock dating methods are sketchy at best. Totally unreliable. Atheists only survive debates by playing loose and fast with the data.

[@ndjarnag]

Just as water will carve a whole in a cliff, natural selection will carve the shape and form of living things.

[@marcsalyer9725]

He got Hillel and Shammai confused. Hillel was more permissive. Shammai was more conservative.

[@MrWeebable]

Brilliant sermon (lecture?). He explains the logic and the inconsistencies of the modern Darwinian paradigm without getting bogged down in technicalities.

[@WhatYourPastorDidntTellYou]

It’s worth noting that most Christian scientists during the time of Darwin thought evolution was evidence of God as a designer would be required to carry out such a marvelous act.

[@nametheunknown_]

Thanks for sharing, good stuff!

[@karlernstbuddenbrock371]

Beautiful. James nails it, as always.

[@SheepofTheShepherd-nu3lz]

If I remember correctly The reformation movement started because they were not willing to bow down to the RCC theology. However since many of them had Roman Catholic backgrounds And have influence Many reformers such as Jim White, you do realize that this still means they hold on To the RCC dogma🤔👎 Aware that the Scripture speaks of Reformation But that's not implying Of the aforementioned Reformation that took place over 300 year ago. But I do know this. Romans 8:29 speaks of how we are to be. Conformed to the likeness of Christ Not the reformation Calvin's Lutheran And so on. The Gospel either humbles you and causes you to realize you are a vile wretched Sinner, or it does nothing but keeps you in a slumber of Spiritual pride and doesn't change your heart. Consider your reply if you do

[@rockycomet4587]

@@SheepofTheShepherd-nu3lz Go read a history book. 🤣🤣🤣

[@SheepofTheShepherd-nu3lz]

@The Pilgrim And just what does Whitey believe exactly? Is he like his buddy Wilson A Postmillennialist

[@SheepofTheShepherd-nu3lz]

@The Pilgrim Ok not wanting to answer an honest question Now I understand why I don't subscribe this Channel 👎

[@worldgonemad5866]

@The Pilgrim , the Bible allows talks a lot about taking slaves and how you can beat them and keep them forever. Quite a book you got there.

[@GHELM-wp5yj]

Thanks be to God that his kindness and mercy endures forever, the whole world is full of the ungodly. Good is bad and evil is good, just as the Word proclaims in the last days. To oppose the living God is to our destruction.Judgement is by Christ, he earned that right and only thru him are we made righteous. Don't be a goat.

[@baryntn41]

I break out in a rash when progressives talk about 'redefining' something, believing that it will be an improvement - it never is.

[@equinoxproject2284]

Does the changing representation of marriage, family and sexual relationships in the bible also give you a rash too?

[@equinoxproject2284]

@Anthony Galloni So the changing morality of the bible does give you a rash, just not as much as transgenderism. Ok thanks for sharing.

[@djengo77]

@@equinoxproject2284 You wrote: "Does the changing representation of marriage, family and sexual relationships in the bible also give you a rash too?" To what (if anything) are you referring by your phrase, _"the changing representation of marriage, family and sexual relationships in the bible"?_

[@equinoxproject2284]

@@djengo77 What do you think I meant by it, take your best guess.

[@djengo77]

@@equinoxproject2284 I asked you: "To what (if anything) are you referring by your phrase, "the changing representation of marriage, family and sexual relationships in the bible"?" You: ** You wrote: "What do you think I meant by it, take your best guess." Why, I do not think you meant anything by it; I do not assume that you were speaking meaningfully in saying it. See, that's why I asked you the question I asked you, Professor.

[@RKLCan]

24:50 "We christians have been influenced by Darwinism" spot on! We have been too inluenced and live a selfish, survival of fittest life

[@kirkmcmillan1974]

I just witnessed evolution. There's NOW a KZbin video featuring Dr White that allows comments.

[@bham7bh]

Wonderful. Thanks.

[@JoshuaPatrickGarrett]

Pharmakeia and advancing technology are inseparable aspects.

[@edwardelliott5756]

Excellent. Thanks Dr. White.

[@mcmanustony]

Doctor?? You've got to be kidding......

[@philippbrogli779]

A preacher knowing his creationism is rare. At least the preachers I listen to have a very bad understanding of it. Either they don't believe in it or they just very superficially know the stuff. You definitely got my like.

[@Armygirl4Christ]

They want chaos so they can bring “order out of chaos.” By their own words.

[@djengo77]

They want what _they_ call "order". Which is really chaos. They don't want order from chaos _("ab chao, ordo")_ ; they want chaos from order _("ab ordo, chao")._ Ab Ordo, Chao l c o e a r x s t a i e n o z d r i a (Hopefully the text formatting doesn't get all screwed up when I hit "Reply.")

[@JamesDavis-dn3wo]

I am a Catholic and I thought this was an excellent talk. Live long and prosper!

[@mcmanustony]

Then you haven't thought enough.

[@jhabernathy690]

You better keep listening. If you believe what Catholicism teaches, you are dead in sin. Judgement awaits. Leave that Godless/wicked snare of Satan!

[@JamesDavis-dn3wo]

@@jhabernathy690 If you actually got to know Catholicism you would think differently.

[@JamesDavis-dn3wo]

@@mcmanustony It's a shame when people make uninformed judgements.

[@mcmanustony]

@@jhabernathy690 have you considered the possibility that you might be a bigoted simpleton?

[@equinoxproject2284]

3:00 slavery wasn't controversial either, until a few hundred years ago.

[@whotookjimirocket]

clear chaos enginner

[@equinoxproject2284]

@@whotookjimirocket hey I'm a chaos engineer too, just look at my workshop.

[@nemesis3329]

Do you mean chattel slavery, which is expressly forbidden in the Bible?

[@equinoxproject2284]

@@nemesis3329 According to the Old Testament could you buy slaves from the nations around you, could you pass on your slaves as inheritance to your children and could a father sell his daughters?

[@nemesis3329]

@@equinoxproject2284 From Got Question: There is a tendency to look at slavery as something of the past. But it is estimated that there are today over 27 million people in the world who are subject to slavery: forced labor, sex trade, inheritable property, etc. As those who have been redeemed from the slavery of sin, followers of Jesus Christ should be the foremost champions of ending human slavery in the world today. The question arises, though, why does the Bible not speak out strongly against slavery? Why does the Bible, in fact, seem to support the practice of human slavery? The Bible does not specifically condemn the practice of slavery. It gives instructions on how slaves should be treated (Deuteronomy 15:12-15; Ephesians 6:9; Colossians 4:1), but does not outlaw slavery altogether. Many see this as the Bible condoning all forms of slavery. What many fail to understand is that slavery in biblical times was very different from the slavery that was practiced in the past few centuries in many parts of the world. The slavery in the Bible was not based exclusively on race. People were not enslaved because of their nationality or the color of their skin. In Bible times, slavery was based more on economics; it was a matter of social status. People sold themselves as slaves when they could not pay their debts or provide for their families. In New Testament times, sometimes doctors, lawyers, and even politicians were slaves of someone else. Some people actually chose to be slaves so as to have all their needs provided for by their masters. The slavery of the past few centuries was often based exclusively on skin color. In the United States, many black people were considered slaves because of their nationality; many slave owners truly believed black people to be inferior human beings. The Bible condemns race-based slavery in that it teaches that all men are created by God and made in His image (Genesis 1:27). At the same time, the Old Testament did allow for economic-based slavery and regulated it. The key issue is that the slavery the Bible allowed for in no way resembled the racial slavery that plagued our world in the past few centuries. In addition, both the Old and New Testaments condemn the practice of “man-stealing,” which is what happened in Africa in the 16th to 19th centuries. Africans were rounded up by slave-hunters, who sold them to slave-traders, who brought them to the New World to work on plantations and farms. This practice is abhorrent to God. In fact, the penalty for such a crime in the Mosaic Law was death: “Anyone who kidnaps another and either sells him or still has him when he is caught must be put to death” (Exodus 21:16). Similarly, in the New Testament, slave-traders are listed among those who are “ungodly and sinful” and are in the same category as those who kill their fathers or mothers, murderers, adulterers and perverts, and liars and perjurers (1 Timothy 1:8- 10). Another crucial point is that the purpose of the Bible is to point the way to salvation, not to reform society. The Bible often approaches issues from the inside out. If a person experiences the love, mercy, and grace of God by receiving His salvation, God will reform his soul, changing the way he thinks and acts. A person who has experienced God’s gift of salvation and freedom from the slavery of sin, as God reforms his soul, will realize that enslaving another human being is wrong. He will see, with Paul, that a slave can be “a brother in the Lord” (Philemon 1:16). A person who has truly experienced God’s grace will in turn be gracious towards others. That would be the Bible’s prescription for ending slavery.

[@milesteg402]

Dr White mentions The Borg (Star Trek reference) in relation to trans humanism… saying , if you’ve ever seen them you’re saying that’s not where I want to go. Geeky fact… most recent episode of Star Trek Picard (episode 9) the Borg Queen flys away in a spaceship with Jurati to become the social workers of the universe for all the broken and lonely. I reckon once they return to their time period The Borg will be good guys and trans humanism will be on the books for popular discussion. Star Trek has always been left but the current versions are Star Trek Woketopia.

[@setaside77]

Matthew 7:6, NIV: "Do not give dogs what is sacred; do not throw your pearls to pigs. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces." The modern application of this passage is, don't comment or respond comments in the comment section

[@markk34]

Lol, so true, I’ve learnt this the hard way.

[@NoahFred29]

Excellent!

[@branrx]

None of this stuff bothers me. A continued search of truth eventually points in the right direction, at least if it’s honest. But to believe in God, is to believe in the one in control of all things, including the debate of evolution.

[@vintagechristiantruth3219]

Great message!

[@dauntusgaming]

Dr. White!!!!!

[@SheepofTheShepherd-nu3lz]

Had an old bible teacher years ago, warn us about anyone who claims to be a Bible theologian and has DR in front of the name Glorified lecturer And that also explains why I'm not a fan of his and place him on a high pedastal higher than Christ👈, like so many Whitey fans are and do. And never plan on subscribing to his channels

[@umaikakudo]

You got to be a Berean while recognizing many other people have out Berean'ed yourself. God gifts his church with teachers. It would be foolish to arrogantly dismiss them.

[@SheepofTheShepherd-nu3lz]

@@umaikakudo Yes we are to be like the Bereans and the teachers you speak of Yes I know a few Thanks for the edification I'm sure that will go over well at the Judgement

[@dauntusgaming]

@@SheepofTheShepherd-nu3lz is there an actual reason for why you feel this way about him or do you just not like him because your nameless old Bible teacher told you so? Lol You act as though Dr. White devoting himself to serving The Lord and proclaiming the gospel to members of false religions is a bad thing. How about we do this: Test all things and hold to that which is True? How does that sound? I would also love to see some of your videos of YOU debating roman catholics and muslims to proclaim the gospel. But I get the feeling that this kind of work is beneath you.

[@SheepofTheShepherd-nu3lz]

@@dauntusgaming Ephesians 4:31 KJV - Let all bitterness, and wrath, and anger, and clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you, with all malice: Colossians 3:8 KJV - But now ye also put off all these; anger, wrath, malice, blasphemy, filthy communication out of your mouth. 1 Peter 2:1 KJV - Wherefore laying aside all malice, and all guile, and hypocrisies, and envies, and all evil speakings, How about you do that and tone the attitude or Have you been watching Whitey so long that you gravitate towards the side that doesn't belong in the body of Christ. No wonder I stop the subscription to this Nutty channel 👎

[@omarvazquez3355]

AMEN Dr. White

[@RJMCafe]

James White says "I did finish all of the work for my bachelor of science degree". Wonder why he didn't get awarded the degree then? Very curious.

[@HaecceitasQuidditas]

He had a double major and had to choose between BSc and BA as the degree nomenclature.

[@deronburton2994]

Need the link for the grace conference agenda on the ugly guy picture so that viewers understand what this may look like for those who didn't witness the conference.

[@treywagnon7001]

Sadly you’re studies in evolution stopped at undergrad. I wish that someone could sit you down and show you the true wealth of evidence for evolution. Evolution is one of the best known facts about our past that we have. Just because it doesn’t fit with you’re worldview doesn’t mean that it isn’t true. That’s why this version of Christianity has been dying the fastest. In 100 years it will more than likely be completely exhausted.

[@peterspencer]

Hi Trey Wagnon. I am genuinely curious, how do you respond to the claim that mutations only reduce genetic content? Surely for evolution to occur there has to be an increase in genetic content. I really want to know your thoughts.

[@downenout8705]

@@peterspencer I doubt that you are truly interested (by your tone), however just in case I'm mistaken there are a plethora of scientific papers on the subject of gene duplication.

[@peterspencer]

@@downenout8705 hi, yes I know there are lots of papers on gene duplication. I have not studied much of them but I have put this question to my lecturers in biochemistry and genetics (who do study the papers) and they tell me there is no evidence of novel, functional genetic content (that is, no new genetic material that works properly), only a double up of existing genetic content. This sort of thing works in plants but in humans it's called down syndrome. In other words, the "new" genetic material is dysfunctional and harms the organism. In fact, the gene code is a 3-dimensional code. Which means that just adding a single atom that is not part of the preceding gene code will cause it to miss-fold. A miss-folding gene is a dysfunctional gene.

[@downenout8705]

@@peterspencer I tell you that there are a plethora of scientific papers on gene duplication, you tell me that you "have not studied much of them", then proceed to tell my what is wrong with the research that by your own admission you have not read. Yep, as I thought you are just another intellectually dishonest Christian who has zero interest in exploring anything that might be inconsistent with their "faith".

[@peterspencer]

@@downenout8705 hi. Look, let me make this clear. I know about the papers on gene duplication. I know the gene transcription and translation process from my bachelor of science (chemistry major, biochemistry minor). I understand the folding process caused by interatomic forces that ensure the gene is properly shaped. And all this from my university training and from lectures by renowned geneticists. The point is, gene duplication only copies EXISTING genetic content. It does not add anything NEW to the gene. If it adds even one extra atom, it will cause the gene to missfold resulting in gene FAILURE! Geneticists know this but this never came up during studies on evolutionary processes. For goodness sake read the comments carefully before you respond.

[@davidschneide5422]

An apologist "scholar" using the term "Darwinism". How appropriate.

[@therealkillerb7643]

He had me when he mentioned "Star Trek." He lost me when he added, "The Next Generation." Kirk rules and Picard drools!

[@BayesTheorem78]

@17:00 "99.95% of mutations are deleterious" - doesn't matter if you have a small enough rate of mutation not to make the species go extinct, since an infrequent beneficial mutation will eventually spread throughout the population.

[@AndrewVaughanOfficial]

This sermon fails in its premise by equating Darwin to a Jesus-like figure as well as the misconception that evolution and Darwinism and Christianity are mutually exclusive. Darwin is viewed as a flawed man and a scientist by those in the scientific community, not a messianic figure. The concept of evolution is also not contradictory to Christianity; if God is the ultimate Creator, then why wouldn't He create beings that would change and adapt to the environment?

[@TheDivineCallingofJesusChrist]

He did he created us except we've been human we've been human since we've been here. No evolving no nothing we are exactly the way God has intended.

[@AndrewVaughanOfficial]

@@TheDivineCallingofJesusChrist Why do some of us have brown eyes and some of us have blue eyes?

[@TheDivineCallingofJesusChrist]

@@AndrewVaughanOfficial I am not aware of the technical reasons as to why. I know it can be based off genetics, that is all.

[@juilianbautista4067]

Hello! Christians agree that God created His creatures with the ability to adapt to their environment. However, our disagreement with Darwinism has to do with the existence of the mechanisms that are required for a molecules-to-man evolution. Evolution’s most basic definition is “change over time”. And by that definition, evolution is true. We evolve every second. We learn new things everyday. However, this isn’t Darwinian evolution. Darwinists assert that all living organisms here on earth has one universal common ancestor (though actually, if you think about it, all of creation has one universal common ancestor, and that is God). This universal common ancestor that supposedly came from rearranged pond scum reproduced, and reproduced, and reproduced, and after millions of years, due to random mutations and chance processes and changes in the environment, this glob or goo became a worm became a tadpole became a frog became a fish became a dog became a dinosaur became a bird became a monkey became an ape became a human (that isn’t the actual sequence [in fact no one actually agrees on a proper sequence] but it’s roughly the idea). However, for any of these changes from one animal kind to another to occur, there has to be a mechanism that enables organisms to generate novel genetic information from nothing - information that give rise to novel biological features, like a wing, or a foot, or an opposable thumb, or a gill, or a lung, et cetera. But no such mechanism exists. The only thing we’ve observed that happens to the genome is that it gradually degrades, and 99% of the mutations that happen in the genome are either harmful or deleterious. Things like antibiotic resistance and “beneficial” adaptations are a result of loss of genetic information. A good analogy would be that you “gain” the benefit of immunity from tooth decay if you pluck your teeth out, or that a car would “gain” immunity from flat tires by having all its tires removed. But with the loss of these essential features, you lose the ability to eat well, and the car loses its ability to actually move. Bacteria that are resistant to antibiotics are actually weaker than bacteria who haven’t lost the genetic information that makes them “resistant” to the antibiotic. How do bacteria become “resistant”? They get a genetic error in the code responsible for synthesizing an enzyme in their system - when bacteria encounter antibiotics, this enzyme digests the antibiotics and turns the antibiotics into poison, thus killing the bacteria. But what happens if they lose the code for this enzyme? When they encounter the antibiotics, their body takes it in, but they have no enzyme to turn the antibiotic into poison with, and so they don’t die. But this isn’t a Darwinian process. They lost genetic information in order to be “better”. But if you put them back in their natural environment, these antibiotic “resistant” bacteria will not fare as well as the non-damaged bacteria will. They’re still bacteria. And weaker ones. They didn’t gain a foot, or a leg, or an eye, or a wing, et cetera. Adaptation and natural selection are real. But neither of these are viable mechanisms for Darwinian evolution. Really, it’s just a false equivocation when people say “adaptation and natural selection are evidence for Darwinism”. It isn’t. Adaptation and natural selection are evidence for God’s creativity, as well as the Fall of Adam and Eve, in that the whole creation was subject to death and decay, and this is why we have mutations, why we die, et cetera. Hope this helps, bro.

[@TheDivineCallingofJesusChrist]

@@juilianbautista4067 it's very late for me but without getting into it too much I have a couple questions that make me question everything and why I don't think Darwinism is true. Lets say we evolved from monkeys. Why didn't the monkeys evolve too? There shouldn't be any more monkeys if we evolved from them. Science has already proven this to be wrong, we did not come from monkeys. If all living things derived from an animal or another living thing from bacteria however you want to look at it why are humans the only species that has theory of mind, a sense of wonder, to think about the future and contemplate the past. No other living being can do this like we can however what we do share with every living thing on this planet mostly is a brain, eyeballs and a bloodstream. The intricate design that forms humans also shares a lot of similarities with everyday life nature and animals etc. Darwinism in my honest opinion was a failed experiment that got pushed and pushed and pushed until people stopped questioning our upbringing and where we came from. Without getting all conspiracy I think the time frame in which we've been told that we've been on this Earth is wrong, we've been lied about too many things. Everything for me is circling right back to there being a creator. At the end of the day we cannot truly explain all of this and I think it's because it is outside our realm of comprehension and yes I am hinting to God.

[@sonlover62]

Surprised that James confuses Shammai and Hillel, by placing Hillel as the “more conservative.” It was Hillel’s followers who justified divorce on the basis of burning their food, not Shammai’s.

[@agentclol]

Probably just an honest mistake

[@sonlover62]

@@agentclol Agreed

[@equinoxproject2284]

This talk = my personally preferred theological bias doesn't have space for evolution so it must be wrong.

[@sandina2cents779]

What about macro evolution has never been done or seen by anyone… ever? Even in the lab when they tried to force it using our intellect still…can’t be done.

[@equinoxproject2284]

@@sandina2cents779 because we don't know how, and can't replicate it, does that mean it didn't happen?

[@sandina2cents779]

@@equinoxproject2284 if you can’t replicate and demonstrate it then it’s not science. The scientific evidence that we have now, trying to replicate it forcibly and failing miserably, is evidenced against the theory. So there’s no evidence for it and there is Scientific evidence against it.

[@equinoxproject2284]

@@sandina2cents779 Yeah I hear that all the time from flat earthers, but that's actual not true. Many fields of science are observational or theoretical in nature.

[@sandina2cents779]

@@equinoxproject2284 what is the definition of science?

[@samuel_rowbotham]

Great sermon.

[@mcmanustony]

No, it's a pack of bigoted ignorant lies.

[@cerealbowl7038]

I have now lost all respect for James White. This guy is worse than Ken Ham. If he knew anything about evolution, he would not have said that it is "completely random."

[@oracleoftroy]

Why? Leaving aside attempts to insert a god into the atheist creation myth; last I checked, evolution rejects teleology, so where is there room for anything aside from random influences? Randomness doesn't have to follow a uniform distribution, it can follow a bell curve or other weighted distribution and still be completely random. E.g. in the double-slit experiment, the final position of a photon is random, but there is a clear pattern to the distribution of photons.

[@mexvantil7523]

Amen amen!!!

[@positronhaberdashery1583]

just because we're chemicals doesn't mean that we can't come to correct conclusions or we can't do things about our situation or reality

[@bird401]

Darwin (or any reputable scientist): what I’m saying can be shown to be false. White: what I say is true, so there!

[@positronhaberdashery1583]

survival of the fittest seems a little bit misleading. It's better to state that an organism who survives long enough pass on its genes. That's all he's talking about If a group of animals find themselves in an environment where resources are scarce, even though they're big quick, they need a lot of resources to survive and if they die out, that's it for their gene pool and in those circumstances it's the bugs that survive

[@amazingbobo1]

The answer i believe to the problem presented in this speech is to use the analogy of the simulation of the universe. Which is what Christians call a creation. Simulations don't create themselves.

[@AlexStock187]

I think that evolution is an accurate model of the origins of biological diversity; I also think that humans have great worth and dignity, that homosexuality is unnatural, abortion is evil, etc. The truth claim is distinct from what people do with it, just as the atrocities committed by “Christians” doesn’t disprove the Resurrection. (Though Jesus statement of “They will know you are my disciples by your love for one another”; this is almost a test of falsifiability)

[@Dandelion0962]

Well how did the random nothings, randomly appear from randomly nothing, to wander and roam in wonder about randomly nothing, for around randomly nothing, for randomly nothingness !!!/..../.....

[@graysonwilcox8015]

I'll clarify my position as I realize I might come across as inconsistent with some of my arguments and whether or not I'm actually arguing in favor of evolution. At the end of the day to me evolution seems compelling as it is accepted among the vast majority of the scientific community across multiple fields of study. The scientific method is designed to eliminate bias and in theory is based on what you can prove. What constitutes proof is obviously up for debate. Belief in the bible or any other religious text seems basically entirely subjective. My argument is not to prove evolution but that evolution is a more well thought out nuanced answer to the question of where life came from than simply God made everything. To me that provides no explanation and it seems to me that religious people who refute evolution do so because it challenges their narrative. A narrative that is often very simplistic and seems to be baseless. And whether or not they have any knowledge of a particular field of study or multiple fields of study doesn't often seem to dissuade them from arguing against a very well established theory that has evidence that has been accepted by a community of people (scientists) who generally support objective reasoning and data that can be substantiated. Whereas religion seems to be a very subjective argument that doesn't offer much in the way of proof. Somebody can claim anything they want in the name of God whether it's that the earth is 6,000 years old or that men shouldn't have long hair and the only thing they have to do to substantiate what they believe is point to the bible and what they think it says. They never seem to have a problem asserting that the bible says what they think it does despite a large number of dissent from all sorts of voices. They also tend to see dissent as evil and ignore what they don't want to hear. I don't know enough about much that would prove evolution but I think I've seen enough to doubt what religions claim and question why they claim what they do

[@ashleighcombs5134]

The Theory of Evolution makes since. The code used to translate nucleotide sequences into amino acid sequences is essentially the same in all organisms. The proteins are invariably composed of the same set of 20 amino acids. Religion is based on stories. Science is based on truth.

[@mrfake675]

What's truth made out of?

[@graysonwilcox8015]

@@mrfake675 that would be the question wouldn't it. But I know theres a whole lot of people speaking on God's behalf and they can't all be right.

[@michaelmarshall9132]

Grayson . In what way can you substantiate what happened 14 billion yrs ago . What started life in the first place in your opinion ?

[@graysonwilcox8015]

@@michaelmarshall9132 I don't have an opinion on what started life. I do have an opinion on what makes sense. To me it makes a lot more sense to believe a narrative that is accepted by the majority of the scientific community across multiple fields of study than somebody arguing against it for the sake of their theology. There's no reason that I can see not to believe evolution unless you have something else to believe to the contrary. Most of the time that something else is a very literalist belief in the bible and a more fundamentalist approach to christianity. Neither of those things are known for being sources of objective thinking.

[@Dandelion0962]

The AllMightY J(Y)esUS Christ was, and was 2 be The Is from The Creator, 2 be 4ever Alive ☀️💗🌼💕🌼💗

[@AidenRKrone]

A proper understanding of original sin and total depravity requires a literal interpretation of the Book of Genesis. Theistic evolutionism and other forms of Old Earth creationism are not consistent with the verses in the New Testament that speak of death entering the world through one man's sin. If Adam and Eve were not two literal human beings - and the first two, at that - then the doctrines of total depravity and original sin fall apart - as does the rest of the Gospel.

[@mcmanustony]

Maybe they aren’t compatible with your goat herders almanac. They are compatible with reality Would it ever occur to this arrogant, self important clown to actually STUDY the science he’s blabbering about?

[@gregb6469]

@@mcmanustony-- Dr White got his BS in biology, so he is quite familiar with the 'science' of evolution.

[@mcmanustony]

@@gregb6469 Quite evidently he is nothing of the sort. He's a howling ignoramus. Why the scare quotes on "science" of evolution? The theory is in 250,000 research papers spanning 160 years in biology, biochemistry, botany, zoology, systematics, genetics, paleontology, molecular biology, bio-mathematics, biophysics, biogeography, embryology, physiology, comparative anatomy.... How many have you read?

[@mcmanustony]

@@gregb6469 *Doctor* White….adorable!

[@gregb6469]

@@mcmanustony-- Because Darwinism is philosophy, not science. Evolution of one kind into another has never been made to happen in any lab, and has never been observed occurring in nature. For a theory to be scientific it must able to be duplicated under laboratory conditions, or observed to occur multiple times by trained observers. Neither can be said about Darwinian evolution. Calling it science is propaganda.

[@positronhaberdashery1583]

Even though the theory of biological evolution explains actual evolution that occurs in reality, it's not a call to action

[@Dandelion0962]

Let the past lay dead, in letting the dead bury the dead, and waste not time, space and energy seeking 4 a future, in your living 1 day at a time in great appreciation 4 2dai(y/Y) ☀️💕🌼💗🌼💗

[@mikesamuel9175]

YES!! Atheists have FAITH too....FAITH in themselves as their own Creator Elohim! WOW! They are saying: "WE ARE GODS...!"

[@mcmanustony]

What utter nonsense. Why can't you honestly and respectfully articulate a position you disagree with. Why are you so dishonest?

[@mcmanustony]

I see the lack of capacity to answer. Try to be less dishonest

[@mitchc3569]

I have never understood why or how anyone could take seriously the Theory put forth by this young man who was sent away from his contemporary’s and society on a long cruise onboard a ship where he came up with his theory by his Family so as not to be an embarrassment to them. Chuck Darwin was his name.

[@I_am_Mister_Y]

Because evolution is supported by overwhelming evidence and has even been directly observed, both in laboratory conditions and in the field.

[@equinoxproject2284]

1:50 According to the OT he didn't make them both in the beginning, he made the mud man first then rib girl later.

[@Xenotypic]

its a figure of speech my man

[@equinoxproject2284]

@@Xenotypic tell that to a biblical literalist.

[@Xenotypic]

@@equinoxproject2284 i don't even think a "literalist" would disagree with you and trust me I know them, they all would acknowledge that humans weren't the first things created and were created from the dust of the ground.

[@equinoxproject2284]

@@Xenotypic that's not my point. In the first version of creation man and women are created at the same time. I the second version man is created, then some other things happen and then woman is created.

[@rube1954rap]

@@equinoxproject2284 They are not two "separate" versions. The second is expanding on the first, not contradicting it.

[@Theomatikalli]

Just because things were not controversial in the past doesn't mean they can't be controversial in the future. Scientific progress debunks things while confirming others.. for instance we no longer think that the flu is caused by demons since we now understand the germ theory. Back then it was not controversial to think demons were the cause.. back then it was not controversial to think of a creator.

[@talldog7632]

The reason you are laughed at and denied publication if you reject evolution is because that is settled science. That would be like asking to teach math when you refuse to acknowledge that 4x4 is 16. They are wasting they're time with you. This is not dogma. It is settled science. James White thinks evolution is just another ideology, because he is so utterly ignorant of what science is and how conclusions are drawn based on testable and falsifiable experimentation and observation. He projects his own concept of dogma onto science, because dogma is the only language he understands.

[@PurePuritan]

Science is never settled.

[@mpdebate6239]

James is an excellent speaker of the faith. Very blessed to be able to hear this. Everything he said is true, so very true.

[@downenout8705]

Putting"faith" and "truth" together is an oxymoron.

[@mpdebate6239]

@@downenout8705 how so? icyhot is an oxymoron, faith meaning belief/trust in someone and truth meaning that which is consistent with reality, aren't antonyms therefore they cannot be an oxymoron.

[@downenout8705]

@@mpdebate6239 Sorry, my apologies, I assumed that you are a Christian and believed in the truth of Hebrews 11 :1. I agree with you that Jesus's definition of "faith" is an utterly appalling epistemology. So are you a Muslim?

[@mpdebate6239]

@@downenout8705 Yes Hebrews 11:1 is the same as my definition of faith. Confidence in what we hope for (the promises God have made to us) and assurance or belief in what we do not see (belief/trusting in someone or something) I wouldn't say in Christian because Christians have the scriptures butchered and they don't even live a life anything remotely similar to Christ did. I am simply just a believer in the scriptures and I think the scriptures make that belief extremely easy to have for anyone who gives them an honest and in depth look.

[@downenout8705]

@@mpdebate6239 So you believe in the scriptures. Here are just a few examples of your Yahweh/Jesus slaughtering (1) by drowning in (Genesis 7: 22); burning to death in (Genesis 19: 24 ); putting to the sword in (1 Samuel 15:3 & Numbers 31: 17) and putting to death just to show off in (Exodus 11:5). (1 = babies and the unborn). I have deliberately left out examples of the atrocities carried out against children, because I know you consider all children to be evil sinners and deserving of the horrors inflicted on them. If you truly "believe" in these scriptures and still worship and venerate such an utterly depraved deity, I say shame on you.

[@positronhaberdashery1583]

Genes and mutation are not really data. They are biochemicals reactions There is some equivocating going on here

[@mzubuki]

"For I shall use the foolish things of the world to confound the wise./" "Walk by faith not by sight." Don't use your eyes I'm going to try to trick you. Love (The hero must always give something up.) without it we have nothing. 1 Cor. 13: 1-8. Evil is internal selfish weakness, (James 3:16). (The man who drinks, can't handle the world. Beats his wife can't handle the stress. Too much lust destroys life for your own life. Doesn't work the field, starvation.") Return unto Judah: The land of praise, and Bethlehem. Ruth 1:7, and cease your dying. Now the wicked in their heart say that there is no God. For now, you have before you life and death chose life. Seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness and all these things shall he add unto you. Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth forth from the mouth of God.

[@whatever7688]

How inconvenient it must be for Christians to live in a world with Darwinism and people that value the truth. That’s gotta be tough

[@RomingAroundTown]

It is ONLY tough because we care for the unbeliever. It's not an inconvenience to the true Christian that the World has bought lies from some man. That has happened through out the millenia. The unbeliever is the only man in constant turmoil and despair; to turn your back on the Truth is a difficult thing that becomes ultimately Hellish.

[@bible1st]

If it was the truth for certain, we wouldn't be here refuting it still.

[@jamessheffield4173]

What about evolution theory's influence on Critical Text Theory?

[@dc-wp8oc]

Exactly; but White seems to dismiss this. Those textual critics (upon whose work the modern translation are built) were supporters of Darwin and skeptics and agnostics of the highest order. Yet this fact is overlooked by White who disparages the KJV only camp.

[@jamessheffield4173]

@@dc-wp8oc White believes the lower criticism has nothing to do with the higher criticism but Johann Jakob Griesbach was a German biblical textual critic. Griesbach's fame rests upon his work in New Testament criticism, in which he inaugurated a new epoch. His solution to the synoptic problem bears his name, but the Griesbach hypothesis has become, in modern times, known as the Two-Gospel hypothesis. Wikipedia Johann Jakob Griesbach, (born Jan. 4, 1745, Butzbach, Hesse [Germany]-died March 24, 1812, Jena, Thuringia), rationalist Britannica

[@craigime]

​@@dc-wp8ocsource: trust me bro

[@cjames9320]

Could have probably chosen a speaker that at least believes in the flawlessness of the Word of God...

[@ryanthomas7119]

It's full of errors and contradictions, I mean seriously what is wrong with you willful ignoramuses?

[@aliencasinobartender8735]

Amen

[@equinoxproject2284]

3:40 I just can't with this guy. What we consider the definition and even rights of husband, wife, son, daughter, slave and servant is so completely different to what it meant 2000yrs ago I don't see how JW can deliver this line with a straight face.

[@oregrug2201]

What argument are you trying to make?

[@Huskerguy316]

Exactly. Im rapidly losing brain cells listening to him. Almost every single thing he’s said so far especially about Darwin and Evolution is wrong

[@bible1st]

​@@Huskerguy316 Perhaps you rapidly lost them before listening to him.

[@positronhaberdashery1583]

Language can be ambiguous sometimes Language itself is a construct we assign meaning to it. It ceases to be a contract once we are talking about reality in an accurate manner

[@craigime]

Nah

[@goodluckembweze2568]

What are the circular assertions and lies made by Darwin? Why is it important for religious people to paint evolution and or atheism as a religion? As someone who thinks that evolution explains the observations of similarities and patterns in nature far better than supposed "point" creations I'm interested in why you think that that requires any faith.It is simply obvious to me that a god would not have created whales or bats or any other parallel function under the widely held premise that every animal perfectly serves a purpose "point" type creation. Also, a god has not mixed form (a parrot with tentacles, an oyster with fangs, etc..) , while humans easily design across technologies. Everything is suspiciously linearly related and this is confirmed by xenotransplantation rejection rates. Read the medical journals.

[@tyronesmith2394]

👌👌

[@NicholasHoughton-gy4vy]

What a magnificent talk! As a Brit, I am ashamed that Darwin came from the British Isles. As an Anglican Christian, I am even more ashamed that he is buried in Westminster Abbey. From what Dr. White said, it might be that Darwin is on a par with Mohammed in closing (or trying to close) the doors of Heaven to billions. As such this man will go down in infamy in the annals of eternity.

[@DefensoresdelaVerdad]

Dr. White, you give Charles Darwin way too much credit. He sought to explain that which was observable in nature. It seems from what he observed, and not only he, but Robert Wallace (1870) and more recently, William Dembski had seen in the world around us. Namely, that the processes called random mutations and genetic modification, and that it too is a part of the way life operates. If C. Darwin had supported Marxist thinking and philosophy, then he did so from the grave. You added to his theory just about everything you stated as "direct consequences" of Darwinism. Now, if you want conclude that the modernist, the naturalist and the atheist (you mentioned Richard Dawkins) have built on the philosophy of Darwin by actually rewriting his theory, and if you were to state more accurately that neo-darwinianism promotes a "struggle between the classes" and a "Battle for the races" then, you would be much placing the spot light on the real culprit: naturalistic, atheistic Mendelian Darwinism. But Charles Darwin knew nothing of those. Actually the problem was not Darwin, it was Rousseau, as you and @BLOGANDMABLOG just discussed recently on the Sweater vest dialogues. Your posture toward Darwin takes the model of "science vs. Christianity" or in other words, the war of science on Christian theology. But such a war is only ragging in the minds of those who look at any possible theory that surfaces from scientific investigation as antagonistic and defiant before the Lord. It would be much more accurate for you to point out the insufficiency of Darwinism, the failings of it, the inconsistencies of it, rather than creating a "straw Darwin" and the using it as a whipping post. I hope you can see what I am trying to say. And just for the record, I believe in Divine, creation, ex-nilo, from nothing, in 6 literal days. I am a creationist, NOT a naturalist or a Darwininist. I just encourage you to represent Darwin as he really was, not as the atheist and materialist want to use him today.

[@davidsimpson7229]

Is there any amount of evidence that could change your mind? You’re a presuppositionalist, so all your talk of evidence is smoke and mirrors.

[@positronhaberdashery1583]

Again, the theory of biological evolution explains the reality of evolution. How, when and why it took place, it is not a call to action This is called a naturalistic fallacy

[@positronhaberdashery1583]

the universe doesn't care about any of those things And just like everybody else on earth meaning comes from my own brain. My own ego I make my purpose. I like my essence

[@ogloc6308]

Of course you do lol you’ve tricked yourself into thinking there is no moral responsibility or moral accountability. “18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who by their unrighteousness suppress the truth. 19 For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them. 20 For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse. 21 For although they knew God, they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him, but they became futile in their thinking, and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Claiming to be wise, they became fools, 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images resembling mortal man and birds and animals and creeping things. 24 Therefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves, 25 because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever! Amen. 26 For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; 27 and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error. 28 And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done. 29 They were filled with all manner of unrighteousness, evil, covetousness, malice. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, maliciousness. They are gossips, 30 slanderers, haters of God, insolent, haughty, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, 31 foolish, faithless, heartless, ruthless. 32 Though they know God's righteous decree that those who practice such things deserve to die, they not only do them but give approval to those who practice them.” Romans 1:18-32

[@PurePuritan]

Meaning comes from words

[@positronhaberdashery1583]

@@ogloc6308 bro, you need to unplug yourself from the judeo Christian matrix The Bible is progenicide pedophilia, rape, incest, murder, theft, torture, slavery, misogyny and eternal torment and torture. If you don't believe in a jewish person who saved you from that

[@kreefoster]

Sovereignty of God: Man's greatest excuse. God decreed man in sin and only helps some out.

[@Ianbond21]

That's one of the damaging aspects of Calvinism.

[@paulnelson6430]

@@Ianbond21 I wouldn’t say it’s a damaging aspect. If God knew that a portion of his creation from angelic to human would rebel again Him and allowed it, how does that not make Him still sovereign? Let’s us not for get For he says to Moses, “I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion.” Romans 9:15

[@R01202]

I have a question for Christians. If I accept Jesus' atoning sacrifice as a penal substitute, can I have the option of having my consciousness immediately and forever extinguished? I don't want to experience eternal consciousness in any form, so I would prefer to be uncreated. If you believe this is not an option, please explain why not.

[@jellyfishghostthing2059]

???

[@R01202]

@@jellyfishghostthing2059 Can I help you with something?

[@sandina2cents779]

No, that is not an option because that’s not how God set it up. Once you have a soul, it will live forever (either in heaven or in hell). Opting-out is not an option that God provides his creation.

[@DukeWeIIington]

Does the pot get to make demands of the potter? You were made for the pleasure and purpose of another.

[@branrx]

@@DukeWeIIington just what I was gonna say

[@saludanite]

So; one hour and fifty five min long once were the living is worth looking up present host disagrees

[@positronhaberdashery1583]

Saying just because the issue you have with it seems like it was a dress when it actually wasn't The theory of biological evolutions you're not going to disprove it

[@positronhaberdashery1583]

y. Yes, Darwin did not know a lot of things but he was able to deduce a lot. You got to give him a lot of credit for that

[@Daniel-tl2ln]

I am glad I came across James. He speaks well, clear and wise. I was an roman catholic until I read the Bible on my own and started reading more and more. There are only two things about Baptist church that I am not convinced. Holy Trinity, since Babylon and paganism has been mentioned in this video, I read that roots of Holy Trinity are from Babylon and roman catholic church brought it up in Nicea and adopted it, but apparently before that it was never mentioned anywhere, neither by apostles. I read that Protestant move had still close ties to roman catholicism and that is the main reason that believe is adopted. I am not saying anything against or for Holy Trinity but I am more leaning against it based on the Bible. I would like to hear from James how likely is that Holy Trinity has roots in Babylon and Nimrod and not really in the Bible? I do agree that Bible hints at it, but it does not say it. I am NOT LDS or Jehovah Second thing, purgatory. I know Protestants or Baptists do not believe in Purgatory, but in Revelation it says pretty clear that there is a kingdom of Heaven with the tree of life and river inside, there is also outside where through which river flows and that river will carry the leafs from the tree of life for healing of the nations. It does mention too who will stay behind the walls of Kingdom. Isn’t that some sort of purgatory?

[@TomPlantagenet]

As for your first point, I suggest you read James White’s concise but clear book Th Forgotten Trinity-it will explain the biblical teaching on the Trinity. As for your second issue, what Revelation shows is not purgatory. In Roman Catholic theology, purgatory is a place of suffering (purging) that is meant to purify believers before allowing them into heaven. The Bible is clear that Jesus’ death to pay for our sins perfects us from all sin and uncleaness and His resurrection allows us to be born again so that we can fellowship with God. Our salvation is totally dependent on what Christ has done for us and no works or self/suffering can make us right with God; we simply trust in Him as Lord and Savior and repent of our sins knowing that He paid for them all and that He has Resurrected to give us new life!

[@Daniel-tl2ln]

Thanks. Purgatory as you described is exactly what is mentioned in Revelation and similar to what catholics teach

[@TomPlantagenet]

@@Daniel-tl2ln if you’re referring to Revelation 22:15, then we are talking about nonbelievers. If you cross reference with 21:8!you see the same people in the lake of fire or hell. In Catholicism, purgatory is for believers who will eventually wind up in heaven.

[@criminaltotheworld3154]

Hi, it is not good to mix man made ideas and God’s word. It is clear between the catholic(pagan) trinity vs the biblical “Father, Word, Holy Ghost.” 1John5:7 “For there are 3 that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these 3 are one.” If you see there are many things that can be 3 as one. God puts it in a lot of things... this does not mean 3 gods, but there is One God, as the first commandment says. And that there is a triune nature that God is revealing to man by way of Jesus Christ and the in dwelling of the Holy Spirit to open up the scriptures and give understanding. Examples of 3 are 1: Time:1past, 2present, 3future Space: 1length, 2width, 3depth Matter: 1solid, 2liquid, 3gas Universe(heavens and earth):1time, 2space, 3matter. Man: 1body, 2soul, 3spirit. There is probably more but this is an analogy to understand that when people address God’s triune nature, He is still One God, never 3 separate gods...

[@Actuary1776]

“There are holes in the theory of evolution, therefore God created the cosmos in 7 days and man and woman who subsequently offended that God by eating fruit from a magic tree”. Sound reasoning imo.

[@rob2250]

A straw-man at its finest!!

[@Actuary1776]

@@rob2250 Are you claiming White doesn’t use the weaknesses in the modern theory of Darwinian evolution to bolster his position that Yahweh created the cosmos in a literal 6 days? I’m not sure you understand what a straw man argument is.

[@rob2250]

@@Actuary1776 His position is more of against this random, unguided, natural selection theory of evolution I don’t see him arguing for a literal seven day interpretation. whether or not he actually believes that or not has nothing to do with his thoughts on the process of all of this. In this case arguing against the existence of God as the intelligent designer would be a more appropriate response rather than the latter.

[@Huskerguy316]

@@rob2250 evolution is anything but random. It SELECTS the offspring most fit for their environment to reproduce for the gradual advancement and evolution of that species.

[@bible1st]

It wasnt a " magic tree" It was " the tree of the knowledge of good and evil". That's a very specific name, a long nane. I will tell you something., Humans are the only animals on the earth who possesss the knowledge of good and evil. No other animal has it. Because no other animal is recorded as eating from the tree. Only humans alone.

[@mlwilson2956]

I don't see how anyone can read the first few chapters of Genesis and conclude that they were ever intended to be understood literally. Come on people, in chapter 4 Cain is building a city even though the only other people on earth were his wife (where did she come from?) and his estranged siblings. It's clearly polemical and allegorical poetry

[@thewolfes146]

"I don't see..." because you don't have eyes to see.

[@mlwilson2956]

@@thewolfes146 yes, accuse other Christians who disagree with you on non-salvation issues of spiritual blindness. This is the fruit of young earth creationism

[@thewolfes146]

@@mlwilson2956 and your comment was that you can't see how anyone could read the Bible like us because we're so obviously wrong, and now you want to play innocent! 😆

[@NicholasHoughton-gy4vy]

1. Genesis provides genealogies from the very beginning. In that sense, from Adam In chapters 1 and 2 to Jacob and his sons in chapter 50, it is a seamless history. 2. I understand your problem with Cain's city. However, if he lived 730 years (as Genesis says), he had plenty of time to build it and plenty of descendants to populate it. Define also the word city. There are many cities in the world of differing sizes (Tokyo-Yokohama, 38 million, Vatican City, 430 people). 3. Cain can only have married his sister. (Genesis 5:4 says daughters were born to Adam and Eve. No problem with sibling marriage then as humans were physically perfect, therefore no chance of inbreeding). I don't read early Genesis as poetry at all. It reads like history to me. However, if you have an evolutionary worldview I can understand you filtering it through that.

[@berglen100]

Romans 11:33 the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out! 34For who hath known the mind of the Lord? or who hath been his counseller? 35Or who hath first given to him, and it shall be recompensed unto him again? 36For of him, and through him, and to him, are all things: to whom be glory for ever. Amen. It kicks your a__

[@whotookjimirocket]

"strange language"

[@jackalsgate1146]

And you did nothing but rake that verse over the coal. "But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female". It does not say that the Creator made them male and female. Try telling the truth for a change.

[@xX0IRIDIUM0Xx]

Darwin was a bad dog

[@mcmanustony]

On what way?

[@johnpaulyates1655]

I just love how this man thinks his beliefs are "reality", but the beliefs of people who don't share his particular religion are "false". How utterly arrogant. Evolution is simply an explanation for what and how things are and it conflicts with his religious beliefs. As far as I can tell there are 112 different creation stories in this world. There is no garden of eden and no adam & eve. This planet is Billions of years old, not thousands. Mr. White just needs to grow up and get over it. 🤨

[@gregb6469]

Hypocrite much? You accuse Dr White of arrogance for proclaiming what the Bible says, yet you arrogantly pronounce that there is no Garden of Eden, no Adam and Eve, and that the earth is billions of years old.

[@mcmanustony]

@@gregb6469and a bold faced liar.

[@johnpaulyates1655]

Although I believe that Greg B is a fake KZbin profile, I'll interact with THE comment anyway. How am I being a hypocrite here? The Judeo/Christian Bible is a collection of books whose authors lived in an area of the world where a cart with wheels is their greatest technology. I made no statement that isn't absolutely true. You see, the nice thing about science is that it's true.....whether you believe it or not. That can't be said about the Bible or the Quran. @@gregb6469