How We Got Our Bible | James White

Just Thinking about the Bible
Washington DC Regional Conference 2022
In this breakout session, James White-Director of Alpha and Omega Ministries-explains the historic process that led to the Bible we hold in our hands today.
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[@daviddaniel2198]

Dr Whites debates is what led me out of the Jehovah’s Witness beliefs. 🙏🏽

[@JaNoah19]

Praise God! Celebrating you rn bro!

[@daviddaniel2198]

@@JaNoah19 thank you all praises to the Lord 🙏🏽

[@whatsactuallygoingonhere7230]

Praise God!

[@bradleyjones3391]

God is so good 😭

[@kellyanne7225]

I’m so glad! ❤

[@michaelnapper4565]

I cried when I heard him talk about our easy access to the whole word of God, and the men that gave their lives to protect the readers. Please think on these things my friends. God bless

[@primepossum6997]

To think there are more Bibles in my own house than entire communities had between them - the truth found a way hallelujah!!!

[@robertmize327]

Thank you

[@jesusisking9035]

What he doesnt tell you is the text that those men died for isnt the one you have in your new versions. Your new versions come from the very people who killed those men.

[@gerrydean7696]

​@@jesusisking9035 KJV only cult.

[@jesusisking9035]

@@gerrydean7696 you seem keen on keeping your catholic alexandrian gnostic text

[@carolfoster6990]

I am so grateful for all the faithful men who have gone before and for those to come. Thank you Lord!

[@teresarabe8516]

AMEN!!! 🙌

[@gothicissues5897]

Amen I am one of them

[@grantkemink4484]

What a privilege to have the very Word of God so readily available. Today I'm thankful for those from days past that God used to preserve it. Thank you for this message.

[@GodlessGubment]

Were you paying attention at all? There can be no very word of God under this system.

[@briendoyle4680]

men's words... haha

[@mcars100]

The Catholic Church preserved the word of god that’s a fact Luther took out 7 books and changed doctrine so if you are a denominations you can be certain you haven’t got the preserved word of god based on a truth of reality.

[@mcars100]

@JosephBelloo Thanks for your opinion now I will give you truth Jesus Christ gave his authority to peter to build his church the bible was put together by the Catholic Church in the 3rd century Christianity didn’t change till the 16th century when a Catholic priest Martin Luther stripped down the bible and created traditions of men(denominations) the rapture is a false 19th century doctrine not based on scripture and divided even amongst the denominations.If you want to follow and understand Christ join his church the one,holy,apostolic Catholic Church

[@mcars100]

@JosephBelloo Just checked them out sounds interesting but the truth is you broke from Christ’s authoritive church and judging by you saying rapture your making up your own interpretation that tells me your faith is just another denomination outside the Catholic Church

[@johnsteila6049]

Thank God to all of the Catholic and Orthodox monks who painstakingly copied The Holy Bible by hand for 1,400 years so that we could read it today.

[@ronaldsmall8847]

The ones who hid the Bible from the world and burned anyone at the stake who translated it to their own language?

[@n9wff]

Which manuscripts?

[@o.o.2255]

All of them

[@n9wff]

@@o.o.2255 The Catholics were in Alexandria, Egypt, where agnosticism reigned? Did they transcribe the Codex Sinaiticus, which disagreed with the Codex Vaticanus no less than 8000 times? As NASA might hear: Houston, we have a problem.

[@o.o.2255]

@@n9wff First off, there is no problem. 1) You mean “Gnosticism?” OR “Agnostics?” Your headline narrative implies false assumptions. I’ll explain. Catholicism IS and WAS the only Christian Way of converting people, most of the bishops, priests and Christians (before 400 AD and BEFORE there was a Holy Bible of 73 books) were tortured AND killed (martyred) for the beliefs we Catholics still hold today and Protestants heretically reject, almost all 30K+ denominations, each as their own pope differently interpreting the scriptures. You should thank the Catholic church for defending the faith (1 Tim 3:15) who preserved and died for Christ and His one church. Irenaues of Lyons, Ignatius, Justin Martyr, and many others including Councils debated and considered these “Gnostics” heretics because many of their so-called “Special Knowledge” Was never taught by the apostles and these so-called hidden writings were somehow only given to them. Catholics fought these ideas. Bottom line, whether you meant Gnostics or Agnostics, Catholics were the only ones Evangelizing in Alexandria Egypt. Today, the Coptic Catholics are of the same spirit - belief unto death. Recently there were 21 Coptic Christians (Catholics) who were beheaded on a beach by Muslims. (In history, protestants hated Catholics so much, they sided with the muslims)… dont take my word for it, look it up. 2) Codex Sianiticus. Ahh yes, you must FIRST read church history BEFORE trying to call out the Catholics who were inspired by the Holy Spirit to recognize the 73 books of the bible we all enjoy today. And AFTER the 4 centuries of mortal persecutions to preserve Orthodox teachings when there was no new testament available to everyone and risked their lives to preserve and disseminate those writings to each under penalty of death. The bible is a Catholic book. A little church history below in case you were ignorant. I was like you, too and vehemently anti-Catholic UNTIL the Holy Spirit taught me these things, of which now I am sharing with you. 2a) In 367 AD, After Catholic Council of Nicaea, Bishop of Alexandria, Athanasius in his 39th (of 45 annual festal or Easter letters) recognized for the first time, 27 books of the New Testament 2b) In 382 AD, Pope Damasus for the first time decrees a single Holy Bible should be created. Thousands of manuscripts and Letters (remember, these all had to be Collected from everywhere) and adjudicated as either Accepted, Rejected, or “Uncertain.” The litmus test used was 3-fold: 2bi) Did an apostle or successor to apostle write these? 2bii) these writings ever read in the underground church in the previous 400 years?, and 2biii) Did the writings align with the Orthodox teachings passed down from apostle to apostle to apostle (Deacons, Bishops, and Elders)? If so, they were admitted as part of the 73 books of the canon. 3) The Old Testament was fairly easy to admit. All 46 books derived from the Greek Septuagint established by Jewish Greek Scribes in 250 BC decreed by King Ptolemy. All 72 scribes were separated by the King And when they finished, all 72 copies in the Library of Alexandria showed them to be nearly exactly the same. Talk about Holy Spirit Inspired. 3a) The Septuagint was the OT bible used by Paul and the apostles and in Acts 17:11 by the Bereans who all spoke Greek. 3b) The 4 Great Codices INCLUDING Codex Sianticus included those 7 Deuterocanon books which were removed from Protestant bibles in the 1880s by the British and Foreign Bible Society because it was too expensive to print AND these were converting Protestants to Catholics. THEN the Gideons widely disseminated these chopped up Protestant bibles in hotels, hospitals, schools, and prisons eluding to the historically ignorant, that Catholics added 7 books. That’s a recent lie in just past 100 years. 4) Finally, in 382, 397 & 416 at the Councils of Hippo and Cathage, respectively, the CATHOLIC CHURCH guided by the Holy Spirit determined the 73 books of the bible (46 OT and 27 NT). 4a) St Jerome, who spoke Hebrew, Aramaic, Greek, and Latin translated the deluge of manuscripts into one language, Latin, which was the Language of the world at the time (Greek before that and English in modern world today) into the FIRST Complete OT/NT Holy Bible, the Latin Vulgate. THEN, it was translated into the English called the Douay Rheims. 4b) The Codex Sianaticus was NOT discovered until the 19th century and therefore UNAVAILABLE to the Catholic church in the 4th Century when our Catholic monks (scribes) were painstakingly “handwriting” (no printing presses were available yet) The cost for just one complete bible then was equivalent to one full year’s salary today. They were EXPENSIVE but could have been more but the monks were not working for Money, they were working for God so they were almost free labor. So NO, we do not have a problem, Houston. We have church history facts demonstrating the infallible Bible is a Catholic book developed by the inspiration of the Holy Spirit through Christ’s one church that He established in Matthew 16:18. Today, modern Catholic and Protestant bibles rely on several sources, including the 4 Great Codices and the Dead Sea Scrolls. Bibles are translated into 3 major categories: 4ai) Word for Word 4aii) Idea for Idea 4aiii) Phrase for Phrase I hope this helps with some if your ignorance (and many other protestants - I was one of them for nearly 30 years until just a few years ago.) So pray about who has changed and who has always been the same. Who preserved the faith and continued Orthodox teachings in early history, even unto torture and death. It was Christ’s true and single church, the Catholic church 2,000+ years ago. Protestantism began in mid 1500s and only 500 years old. IF ITS TRUE, IT’S PROBABLY NOT NEW, IF ITS NEW, ITS PROBABLY NOT TRUE

[@FindingTheNarrative]

This should be named don't trust the KJV lol. Seriously, how does this defend the inspiration of scripture, or actually inform Christians on the cost paid for people to have a bible today. I was hoping for so much more information than I received.

[@TheWaterStar]

do you want someone to affirm your beliefs or to give you the facts of the matter?

[@JoseRuizMagic]

I thank God for my Roman Catholic friend who invited me to my first ever debate with Dr. White and Tim Staples on Sola Scriptura. Ever since then I have followed Dr. White's ministry. God has used him tremendously in my life.

[@rinihogewoning6528]

Amen and keep praying for your Catholic friend too.

[@srich7503]

@@rinihogewoning6528 thank you! And we will pray for you as well.

[@JohnK9999]

Check out the debate with Dr. White and Patrick Madrid(Catholic) on sola scriptura.

[@johnyang1420]

Heard the same devate….folloeed Tim Staples ever since

[@johnyang1420]

Jesus started Catholic church

[@66605]

How we got the Bible? The Catholic Church! Thanks Catholics.

[@PatrickInCayman]

Yes, he left that part out.

[@aeanderson8491]

It's quite dismaying how he jumps from the Old Testament straight to the Reformation, as if the Councils of Rome, Hippo and Carthage never happened. They were the three 4th century Catholic Church councils which canonized the 27 books that are currently in every Christian's New Testament. Very poor presentation to omit this vital development in the history of the Bible.

[@adamsparks9082]

Yeah we’ll skip over the part where the supposed work of the alleged creator of the universe is curated by men. This is the best methodology for an all knowing, all powerful entity to communicate its intent to a species of apes on a planet orbiting a mundane star in one of but hundred of billions of galaxies? This is the best you can do?

[@pio1483]

@@adamsparks9082are you a Protestant or a silly atheist? If the latter, Reddit is down the hall and to the left. But if the former, what then do you suppose is the way we know what is or is not in the Canon of Scripture?

[@adamsparks9082]

@@pio1483 I'm indeed an atheist, but I'll be staying right here, thankyaverymuch. The silly part is up for debate.

[@pio1483]

@@adamsparks9082 lulz that’s fair, I don’t wanna go to Reddit either

[@fritula6200]

How we got our Bible: Humanity got it through the Roman Catholic Church: The RCC gave us the Holy Bible! The Bible is a Roman Catholic Document: It is the very first Bible. All the letters, epistles and Gospels were put together By "THE EARLY CHURCH FATHERS " ●●●THe Church Fathers, Also kn9wn as.. Early Church Fathers, Christian Fathers, or Fathers of the Church were ancient and influential Christian theologians and writers who established the intellectual and doctrinal foundations of Christianity. The historical period in which they worked became known as the Patristic Era and spans approximately from the late 1st to mid-8th centuries. Began flourishing in particular during the 4th and 5th centuries, when Christianity was in the process of establishing itself as the Church of the Roman Empire. In traditional dogmatic theology, authors considered that The Church Fathers are treated as authoritative, and a somewhat restrictive definition is used. The academic field of patristics, the study of the Church Fathers, has extended the scope of the term, and there is no definitive list. Contents The Great Fathers: In the Catholic Church tradition, there are four Fathers each who are called the "Great Church Fathers". In the Catholic Church, they are collectively called the "Eight Doctors of the Church". 1: Saint Ambrose (A.D. 340-397) 2: Saint Jerome (347-420) 3: Saint Augustine of Hippo (354-430) 4: Pope Gregory I (540-604) 5:. Saint Athanasius of Alexandria (c. 296 or 298 - 373) 6: Saint Gregory of Nazianzus (329 - c. 390) 7: Saint Basil of Caesarea (c. 330 - 379) 8: Saint John Chrysostom ( 347-407) The last 3 are honoured as the "Three Holy Hierarchs". Apostolc Fathers The Apostolic Fathers were Christian theologians who lived in the 1st and 2nd centuries AD, who personally had known some of the Twelve Apostles, who were to have been significantly influenced by them. Their writings, though popular in Early Christianity, were ultimately not included in the canon of the New Testament once it reached its final form. Many of the writings derive from the same time period and geographical location as other works of early Christian literature that did come to be part of the New Testament. Some of the writings found among the Apostolic Fathers' seem to have been just as highly regarded as some of the writings that became the New Testament. The first three:- 1:!Saint Clement, 2: Saint Ignatius, and 3: Polycarp, are considered the chief ones. Clement of Rome:- Pope Clement I The First Epistle of Clement (c. 96), is the earliest extant Epistle from The Church Father. In the epistle, Clement calls on the Christians of Corinth to maintain harmony and order. It was copied and widely read in the Early Church. Saint Clement had been considered by some as part of the New Testament canon, e.g., listed as canonical in Canon 85 of the Canons of the Apostles, among other early canons of the New Testament, showing that it had canonical rank in at least some regions of early Christendom. Ignatius of Antioch etc.... please look up.

[@PatrickInCayman]

Most won't

[@Isaiah-ft5nx]

The Catholic Church subverted true Christianity after their creation in the 4th century. Catholicism is anti-Christ.

[@elchamo14]

James White is great, but tbh I was disappointed with this lecture. I was expecting more information on how the cannon came to be, and how the spoken tradition made its way to written text and what does it mean historically speaking for scripture to be inspired by God... instead we got tons of semi-irrelevant stories and jokes about the printing process after the cannon was formed, and how cool it is to have the Bible on our phone. It just feels like it was 80% talking around the information and 20% actual relevant info.

[@dr.mofongo9001]

I had the same reaction. However, I’m not surprised. For Dr. White to provide the whole story would mean acknowledging the Catholic Church, which he won’t do.

[@jesussotelo4775]

The bible was canonized in the year 382 during the council of Rome by the Catholic Church under Pope Damasus I, there I spared you having to listen to an hour of nonsense.

[@gilbertoaviles4586]

There was no Bible in 382 genius

[@jesussotelo4775]

@@gilbertoaviles4586 It was in the process of canonization, it began in the council of Rome,and it was followed through to the council of Hippo and the council of Carthage, if you had any sense of church history you would know this. Contrary to the popular belief the the Bible just magically fell out of the sky. Also incase you didn't know the Bible doesn't affirm its own canon, genius.

[@gilbertoaviles4586]

@@jesussotelo4775 you’re not even worth my time

[@jesussotelo4775]

@@gilbertoaviles4586 I noticed you didn't have facts that back up your claims, maby because truth is not on your side, all you protestants are the same,yall can quote scripture but can't contend with Church history, here's some scripture for you "If I am delayed you will know how you ought to conduct yourself, in the house of the living God, the Church, the pillar and ground for all truth" 1 Timothy 3:15. The most dangerous person to protestants is a Catholic who reads scripture and Church history.

[@gilbertoaviles4586]

@@jesussotelo4775 there was no Bible in 382 like there is no pyramid in Times Square, it’s not a claim. I’m not impressed you’re basically entertaining yourself in your last spill.

[@BrambleHead]

Does this guy know repentance and penance are literally the same thing just expressed from different frames. You don't repent without penance, and you cant do penance without being repentant... I cannot believe this is the state of American theology :/

[@PatrickInCayman]

Well they admire Martin Luther, so I guess its not a surprise.

[@johnyang1420]

Catholic church canonized the New Testament in 4th century.

[@joaquinzannchez3184]

23:40 It baffles me how White decides that all of a sudden, after 15 centuries of the existence of the Church, Erasmus (not even by claiming Divine Revelation) had the truth regarding the Bible and decide what should be in the Bible and what not. So, nobody in the Church challenged the supposed changes in the scripture as they were taking place for 12 centuries? It makes no sense. Here, White's argument is not different than that of Bart Ehrman. 23:53 Funnily enough, White is implicitly admitting that the original Church is what he calls the "Roman" Catholic Church, as a petty-cheap attempt to diminish the Church of Christ.

[@ralphowen3367]

Yes, for anyone who forsaken the A.V. is reading a Catholic version with a Protestant cover, as Gail Ripplinger says.

[@reymartampus4411]

Funny you assumed that the Church (which I think you're referring to the Roman Catholic Church) existed for 1500 years as it is today, papal infallibility, church councils when the metamorphosis of the said church was a gradual development and was only close to what it is today only during the Council of Trent, and that included the decision of the said Roman Church which of the books are included in their Bible. And also, early centuries after Christ died, it was more catholic (or universal) than the so-called Roman "Catholic" Church. With that being said, the 66 Books of the Bible that is recognized by the Protestants is not one that is approved by the Church as Canon, but the rather attest themselves to be God-breathed, thus, would be sufficient basis for it to be called Canon.

[@ralphowen3367]

@@reymartampus4411 Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.

[@ralphowen3367]

@@reymartampus4411 Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.

[@samlawrence2695]

​@@ralphowen3367 Gail Riplinger? False teacher, pathological liar, Gail Riplinger. Anyone who endorses this fraud loses all credibility. Thank God for better translations than the KJV. A translation from manuscripts dedicated to the Pope. How Catholic is the KJV? The crazy, ludicrous, rediculous claims of the KJV idolaters. As has been said Satan does not need atheists he has the KJV only cult doing his work.

[@liepa7768]

He said nothing about the topic of the video, but mostly talked about how grateful we should be for having easy access to the bibles. Worthless brainwashing

[@Heavy.is.the.head83]

Thanks bro... I was wondering if I was wasting my time

[@PracticalBibleStudies]

Dr White is a boss. Casually carries around a book worth more than my car.

[@FatherSonSpirit1]

Noticed your profile pic, can you please explain it ?

[@PracticalBibleStudies]

@@FatherSonSpirit1 Sure. I do translations and commentary of ancient non-canonical and gnostic texts from a Reformed Christian perspective.

[@yacobshelelshaddai4543]

Most things are worth more than my car lol

[@adrianalbritton8004]

Those books he Carrie’s are worth more than most peoples cars and most likely his.

[@tajjiintanzania6237]

May God Bless Dr. White. My prayer is to get an ESV Study Bible. Please join me in prayer for it. -Blessings from Tajji in Tanzania (Christian missionary)

[@bennettburris3446]

Praying

[@JoseSalloum]

The ESV makes the LORD Jesus a lair check John 7: 8-10, check Col 1:14 there is no blood. God bless you, sister.

[@Benjamin-fu5ij]

@@JoseSalloum Sister Tajji, please don't listen to these people. They like to spread lies to promote their propaganda of King James Onlyism. They believe the King James is the only authorized version that should be considered the word of God. This is laughable false, and there are many debates online that show this plainly. I made the switch from NKJV to ESV a few years back and haven't looked back since. Still love the KJV and NKJV for it's beauty of language, but accuracy to the original is a wholly different story. Don't let people like this confuse you. God bless!

[@zabaleta66]

Get the Authorized Version (KJV).

[@PastorwithoutaPulpit]

You must know that God our Father and our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, the Lord of Lords and King of Kings, that although He hates the sin, He loves the sinner. If they will just come to Him and repent in their heart of hearts of all their sins, and proclaim Him as their Savior, their Lord, the Son of GOD. The reason I believe in the God of the Bible, the inerrancy of Scripture and that Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior. We have a reliable collection of historical documents written by eyewitnesses during the lifetime of other eyewitnesses. They report super natural events that took place in fulfilment of specific prophecies and claim that their writings are via divine inspiration and not from men alone. The super natural events are important in that they show the divine nature of God. Jesus Christ cast out demons, healed the sick, blind, deaf, dumb and paralyzed, walked on water, fed thousands with little, and was resurrected all of which have eyewitness accounts. The feedings alone were witnessed by the thousands He fed on the two separate occasions that we are told of in the Gospels. John tells us that there were many more miracles than what are recorded in the Bible/Gospels and that it would have filled volumes of books upon books were he to have written them all down and that it would have taken more than one lifetime to do so. The claim that men wrote the Bible so it can not be true means that no other book ever written should be believed, no matter the topic as they're all written by man. The Bible is not just a book it is a collection of books written over a period of thousands of years of which all those books are linked together by One Divine Author. In this collection of books there are over 40 authors but only one Devine Author who links them all together via the Holy Spirit. Those authors wrote down His inspired Word given to them by God. 66 Volumes/Books in the Bible. The bulk of the New Testament was written over a period of around 50 years. It was in 49 AD to 53 AD when the Scripture writings of the New Testament are thought to have begun. With the last living Apostle John dying in 100 AD. Over a period of around 1500 years it was preserved and passed on: In 3 Languages On 3 Continents There are 66,360+ source documents that have been found for the entire Bible of which there are 24,360 and counting source documents for the New Testament alone. 5,839 in the original Greek, some 2 million pages 18,524 translations of that Greek into other languages Some of the oldest sources date to 125AD which is within decades of the completion of all the books that were canonized as the New Testament. The New Testament cannon, (Gospels of the Apostles/writings, Epistles/letters to the early Churches, all sources and eyewitness accounts that were to be included), was decided at the Synod of Carthage in 397 AD. Those asking for "Scientific Proof" about the Bible are either ignorant or asking with evil intent. An intelligent person knows that the scientific method can not be applied to verify the Bible. Scientific Method is: 1) Has to be observable. 2) Has to be measurable. 3) Has to be repeatable. Therefore no history can ever be proven via scientific method. You must use the historical method based on: Eyewitnesses accounts. Documents from the time or as close as possible. Make sure the story is corroborated by as many sources as possible. Look for anyone/anything that attempted to prove any of it false in that time period or as close to it as possible. Did anyone successfully prove any of it untrue? If they had/have why is there no record found anywhere of it ever being disproven? Luke = Historian A man of science, a physician, an educated and logical man who researched and gathered the accounts of eyewitnesses. He recorded the actual eyewitness accounts of our Lord and Savior, those who had heard Him speak and saw some of the many signs/miracles He performed. He did this because the life of those eyewitnesses were coming to an end and he was inspired to write them down via the Holy Spirit before they could be lost or perverted by time. John = Evangelist John is organized around 7 specific events/signs/miracles all seen by eyewitnesses and corroborated by many. So he also provides proof of accuracy/truth. Mark = The shortest of the Gospels and is very direct or "Just the Facts" if you like. Mathew = Was written to the Jewish audience and that's one of the reasons for the extensive genealogy of Christ. There are also more than a few references to the Old Testament in his gospels. Peter = He lays out all the proof for the Bible and it's accuracy in 1 Peter Chapter 1. He makes the arguments that justify it all as truly what happened and that it all happened as recorded in the Gospels, the entire Bible. All of the Apostles were eyewitnesses of Jesus and/or of the resurrected Christ. Including Paul whom Jesus came to as he was on the road traveling to Damascus to persecute more Christians. This would have been the resurrected Christ or a form of Him that came from Heaven. There were at least 300 eyewitnesses still alive when Corinthians was written who could have disputed it but no one did. Mathias became the 12th Apostles after Judas hung himself so the argument of there not being 12 Apostles comes from ignorance or evil intent. There have been over 25,000 archeological digs in which there has been absolutely no evidence found that proves anything in the entire Bible false but in those digs many things have been found that prove it true. Other cultures and non believer's historical documents show or corroborate people, places, wars and many things that are in the Bible. Yet none of them prove any of it to be false but they do strengthen it. Word for Word Translations prove just how accurate what we have is when you consider there's no way anyone could have falsified any of it, be it via intent or mistakes. Many church fathers in history have made extensive notes that include scripture throughout the centuries and no matter the time or place all those references to scripture corroborate each other. Which shows just how accurate translations have been throughout time and still are as long as they maintain a word for word ideology during the translation. To falsify any of it they would have to change every single source, do it in three languages, on three continents, over a span of thousands of years, with no one catching any of it, no one ever talking about what they'd done, leaving behind no traces that they'd done it. Not to mention they'd have to steal all of those sources to change them, changing them would be a massive undertaking considering they were hand written in those times and then put them back without ever being seen or caught during the entire process. My last statement is this: Simply put the Bible can defend itself like a lion just let it loose. (Use Scripture to defend Scripture because it is a collection of eyewitness accounts that has been proven true again and again). There's a very good movie titled "The God Who Speaks" that covers much of what I've said above. If you still have doubt I would recommend you watch it and even if you don't because it was very well made and presented. Take care and God Bless.@@JoseSalloum

[@shra0013]

Did he talk about how the canon of Scripture was created? Who said what books are inspired and which ones dont belong in the bible? I feel like thats an important point. Did I miss it?

[@PastorwithoutaPulpit]

You must know that God our Father and our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, the Lord of Lords and King of Kings, that although He hates the sin, He loves the sinner. If they will just come to Him and repent in their heart of hearts of all their sins, and proclaim Him as their Savior, their Lord, the Son of GOD. The reason I believe in the God of the Bible, the inerrancy of Scripture and that Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior. We have a reliable collection of historical documents written by eyewitnesses during the lifetime of other eyewitnesses. They report super natural events that took place in fulfilment of specific prophecies and claim that their writings are via divine inspiration and not from men alone. The super natural events are important in that they show the divine nature of God. Jesus Christ cast out demons, healed the sick, blind, deaf, dumb and paralyzed, walked on water, fed thousands with little, and was resurrected all of which have eyewitness accounts. The feedings alone were witnessed by the thousands He fed on the two separate occasions that we are told of in the Gospels. John tells us that there were many more miracles than what are recorded in the Bible/Gospels and that it would have filled volumes of books upon books were he to have written them all down and that it would have taken more than one lifetime to do so. The claim that men wrote the Bible so it can not be true means that no other book ever written should be believed, no matter the topic as they're all written by man. The Bible is not just a book it is a collection of books written over a period of thousands of years of which all those books are linked together by One Divine Author. In this collection of books there are over 40 authors but only one Devine Author who links them all together via the Holy Spirit. Those authors wrote down His inspired Word given to them by God. 66 Volumes/Books in the Bible. The bulk of the New Testament was written over a period of around 50 years. It was in 49 AD to 53 AD when the Scripture writings of the New Testament are thought to have begun. With the last living Apostle John dying in 100 AD. Over a period of around 1500 years it was preserved and passed on: In 3 Languages On 3 Continents There are 66,360+ source documents that have been found for the entire Bible of which there are 24,360 and counting source documents for the New Testament alone. 5,839 in the original Greek, some 2 million pages 18,524 translations of that Greek into other languages Some of the oldest sources date to 125AD which is within decades of the completion of all the books that were canonized as the New Testament. The New Testament cannon, (Gospels of the Apostles/writings, Epistles/letters to the early Churches, all sources and eyewitness accounts that were to be included), was decided at the Synod of Carthage in 397 AD. Those asking for "Scientific Proof" about the Bible are either ignorant or asking with evil intent. An intelligent person knows that the scientific method can not be applied to verify the Bible. Scientific Method is: 1) Has to be observable. 2) Has to be measurable. 3) Has to be repeatable. Therefore no history can ever be proven via scientific method. You must use the historical method based on: Eyewitnesses accounts. Documents from the time or as close as possible. Make sure the story is corroborated by as many sources as possible. Look for anyone/anything that attempted to prove any of it false in that time period or as close to it as possible. Did anyone successfully prove any of it untrue? If they had/have why is there no record found anywhere of it ever being disproven? Luke = Historian A man of science, a physician, an educated and logical man who researched and gathered the accounts of eyewitnesses. He recorded the actual eyewitness accounts of our Lord and Savior, those who had heard Him speak and were present/saw the signs/miracles He performed. He did this because the life of those eyewitnesses were coming to an end due to age and he was inspired to write them down via the Holy Spirit before they could be lost or perverted by time. John = Evangelist John is organized around 7 specific events/signs/miracles all seen by eyewitnesses and corroborated by many. So he also provides proof of accuracy/truth. Mark = The shortest of the Gospels and is very direct or "Just the Facts" if you like. Mathew = Was written to the Jewish audience and that's one of the reasons for the extensive genealogy of Christ. There are also more references to the Old Testament in his gospel compared to the others. Peter = He lays out all the proof for the Bible and it's accuracy in 1 Peter Chapter 1. He makes the arguments that justify it all as truly what happened and that it all happened as recorded in the Gospels, the entire Bible. All of the Apostles were eyewitnesses of Jesus and/or of the resurrected Christ. Including Paul whom Jesus came to as he was on the road traveling to Damascus to persecute more Christians. This would have been the resurrected Christ or a form of Him that came from Heaven. There were at least 300 eyewitnesses still alive when Corinthians was written who could have disputed it but no one did. Mathias became the 12th Apostles after Judas hung himself so the argument of there not being 12 Apostles comes from ignorance or evil intent. There have been over 25,000 archeological digs in which there has been absolutely no evidence found that proves anything in the entire Bible false but in those digs many things have been found that prove it true. Other cultures and non believer's historical documents show or corroborate people, places, wars and many things that are in the Bible. Yet none of them prove any of it to be false but they do strengthen it. Word for Word Translations prove just how accurate what we have is when you consider there's no way anyone could have falsified any of it, be it via intent or mistakes. Many church fathers in history have made extensive notes that include scripture throughout the centuries and no matter the time or place all those references to scripture corroborate each other. Which shows just how accurate translations have been throughout time and still are as long as they maintain a word for word ideology during the translation. To falsify any of it they would have to change every single source, do it in three languages, on three continents, over a span of thousands of years, with no one catching any of it, no one ever talking about what they'd done, leaving behind no traces that they'd done it. Not to mention they'd have to steal all of those sources to change them, changing them would be a massive undertaking considering they were hand written in those times and then put them back without ever being seen or caught during the entire process. My last statement is this: Simply put the Bible can defend itself like a lion just let it loose. (Use Scripture to defend Scripture because it is a collection of eyewitness accounts that has been proven true again and again). There's a very good movie titled "The God Who Speaks" that covers much of what I've said above. If you still have doubt I would recommend you watch it and even if you don't because it was very well made and presented. Take care and God Bless.

[@MikeM-cz5ln]

If he did that he would have to admit the canon of the Bible came from the Catholic Church.

[@mayorofbasedville7680]

His irrational resentment of Catholicism means he usually avoids that topic.

[@MrMonchis04]

Protestants by pass that lol

[@opindras.bangerh129]

Although the KJV might have issues nothing in comparison to the modern Bibles. White didn't mention the Greek grammar or syntax that demands 1 John 5.7 is Biblical, or the early Church writing's from the Church Fathers that ref the verse. Or that different translations prior to the KJV had it like the 1382 Wycliffe Bible. 1 John 5.7 For thre ben, that yyuen witnessing in heuene, the Fadir, the Sone, and the Hooli Goost; and these thre ben oon.

[@happyvibestv3550]

Thank you! Catholic Church for compiling the Holy Bible. Bi means Two Ble comes from the word assemlbe... Two books assembled. The old Testatent and the New Testament compiled together....

[@pujiyesus]

What? no it doesn't😂

[@pio1483]

It was the Catholic Church that compiled the Bible, but, that’s not where the word Bible comes from

[@sunnydays8270]

Read She Rides the Beast by Dave Hunt. Great book that is sourced by the RCC itself exposing its own lies. You were given a myth and the RCC knows the truth except its members.

[@pio1483]

@@sunnydays8270 I wasn’t given anything, by the grace of God I read my way into the Church. I discovered that all the doctrines of the Church are found among the Early Church and the Fathers; all of Scripture points to Catholic doctrine and ecclesiology. The false version of Christianity full of lies is what I assume is your own: Protestant? There is only one Church established by Christ Himself, and Protestantism pridefully split from that Body. Protestant doctrines are found nowhere in the Early Church, and can only be found in Scripture by doing violence to the text and misinterpreting it.

[@DonaldDouglasJr]

No thank you mr white. Ill keep my King James Bible.

[@Wesley.Grapes]

I really like James white. Going to be spending a lot of hours listening to hin!

[@martinkent333]

Brainwashing by professionally trained Christian hustlers is so cool. Hebrew myths are the only ancient myths that are real? How educated are you, Stupid? Type Bible Criticism online and find out.

[@dr.mofongo9001]

So, tell me how we got our Bible, without actually telling me how we got our Bible.

[@bro.francesdelima4998]

Dr. James White debates with Fr. Micth Pacwa, Patrick Madrid, Dr. Robert Fastiggi and Tim Staples led me away from Protestant to Roman Catholic Church.

[@PatrickInCayman]

Awesome, God bless.

[@Isaiah-ft5nx]

Read the Bible. Catholicism is anti-Christ.

[@fritula6200]

Th Bible this man is talking about, is the Protestant Bible : This is not the first Bible:

[@Rocky-nj8lk]

We got the bible from the Catholic Church

[@mattjoel123]

Manuscripts from the 2nd century, whole manuscripts from the 3rd. That’s before the corruption of a political system 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@loydjenkins2241]

You mean there was no Bible in the early church? Really?

[@ReformedSooner24]

You didn’t listen to any of this did you?

[@aussierob7177]

It was by apostolic Tradition that the Church discerned which writings were to be included in the list of the sacred books. This complete list is called the Canon of Scripture. It includes 46 books for the Old Testament and 27 for the New Testament.

[@saboabbas123]

There are no original "autographs", historical inaccuracies abound, translation inaccuracies are blatant (Greek from Hebrew), several books of the NT are forgeries, scribes changed various passages through the years and there are many "gospels" and Gnostic writings extant that were not included in the canon. I noticed Dr. White didn't discuss any of this nor did he discuss any writings prior to the 3rd century AD.

[@PastorwithoutaPulpit]

The reason I believe in the God of the Bible, the inerrancy of Scripture and that Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior. We have a reliable collection of historical documents written by eyewitnesses during the lifetime of other eyewitnesses. They report super natural events that took place in fulfilment of specific prophecies and claim that their writings are via divine inspiration and not from men alone. The super natural events are important in that they show the divine nature of God. Jesus Christ cast out demons, healed the sick, blind, deaf, dumb and paralyzed, walked on water, fed thousands with little, and was resurrected all of which have eyewitness accounts. The feedings alone were witnessed by the thousands He fed on the two separate occasions that we are told of in the Gospels. John tells us that there were many more miracles than what are recorded in the Bible/Gospels and that it would have filled volumes of books upon books were he to have written them all down and that it would have taken more than one lifetime to do so. The claim that men wrote the Bible so it can not be true means that no other book ever written should be believed, no matter the topic as they're all written by man. The Bible is not just a book it is a collection of books written over a period of thousands of years of which all those books are linked together by One Divine Author. In this collection of books there are over 40 authors but only one Devine Author who links them all together via the Holy Spirit. Those authors wrote down His inspired Word given to them by God. 66 Volumes/Books in the Bible. The bulk of the New Testament was written over a period of around 50 years. It was in 49 AD to 53 AD when the Scripture writings of the New Testament are thought to have begun. With the last living Apostle John dying in 100 AD. Over a period of around 1500 years it was preserved and passed on: In 3 Languages On 3 Continents There are 66,360+ source documents that have been found for the entire Bible of which there are 24,360 and counting source documents for the New Testament alone. 5,839 in the original Greek, some 2 million pages 18,524 translations of that Greek into other languages Some of the oldest sources date to 125AD which is within decades of the completion of all the books that were canonized as the New Testament. The New Testament cannon, (Gospels of the Apostles/writings, Epistles/letters to the early Churches, all sources and eyewitness accounts that were to be included), was decided at the Synod of Carthage in 397 AD. Those asking for "Scientific Proof" about the Bible are either ignorant or asking with evil intent. An intelligent person knows that the scientific method can not be applied to verify the Bible. Scientific Method is: 1) Has to be observable. 2) Has to be measurable. 3) Has to be repeatable. Therefore no history can ever be proven via scientific method. You must use the historical method based on: Eyewitnesses accounts. Documents from the time or as close as possible. Make sure the story is corroborated by as many sources as possible. Look for anyone/anything that attempted to prove any of it false in that time period or as close to it as possible. Did anyone successfully prove any of it untrue? If they had/have why is there no record found anywhere of it ever being disproven? Luke = Historian A man of science, a physician, an educated and logical man who researched and gathered the accounts of eyewitnesses. He recorded the actual eyewitness accounts of our Lord and Savior, those who had heard Him speak and were present/saw the signs/miracles He performed. He did this because the life of those eyewitnesses were coming to an end due to age and he was inspired to write them down via the Holy Spirit before they could be lost or perverted by time. John = Evangelist John is organized around 7 specific events/signs/miracles all seen by eyewitnesses and corroborated by many. So he also provides proof of accuracy/truth. Mark = The shortest of the Gospels and is very direct or "Just the Facts" if you like. Mathew = Was written to the Jewish audience and that's one of the reasons for the extensive genealogy of Christ. There are also more references to the Old Testament in his gospel compared to the others. Peter = He lays out all the proof for the Bible and it's accuracy in 1 Peter Chapter 1. He makes the arguments that justify it all as truly what happened and that it all happened as recorded in the Gospels, the entire Bible. All of the Apostles were eyewitnesses of Jesus and/or of the resurrected Christ. Including Paul whom Jesus came to as he was on the road traveling to Damascus to persecute more Christians. This would have been the resurrected Christ or a form of Him that came from Heaven. There were at least 300 eyewitnesses still alive when Corinthians was written who could have disputed it but no one did. Mathias became the 12th Apostles after Judas hung himself so the argument of there not being 12 Apostles comes from ignorance or evil intent. There have been over 25,000 archeological digs in which there has been absolutely no evidence found that proves anything in the entire Bible false but in those digs many things have been found that prove it true. Other cultures and non believer's historical documents show or corroborate people, places, wars and many things that are in the Bible. Yet none of them prove any of it to be false but they do strengthen it. Word for Word Translations prove just how accurate what we have is when you consider there's no way anyone could have falsified any of it, be it via intent or mistakes. Many church fathers in history have made extensive notes that include scripture throughout the centuries and no matter the time or place all those references to scripture corroborate each other. Which shows just how accurate translations have been throughout time and still are as long as they maintain a word for word ideology during the translation. To falsify any of it they would have to change every single source, do it in three languages, on three continents, over a span of thousands of years, with no one catching any of it, no one ever talking about what they'd done, leaving behind no traces that they'd done it. Not to mention they'd have to steal all of those sources to change them, changing them would be a massive undertaking considering they were hand written in those times and then put them back without ever being seen or caught during the entire process. My last statement is this: Simply put the Bible can defend itself like a lion just let it loose. (Use Scripture to defend Scripture because it is a collection of eyewitness accounts that has been proven true again and again). There's a very good movie titled "The God Who Speaks" that covers much of what I've said above. If you still have doubt I would recommend you watch it and even if you don't because it was very well made and presented. Take care and God Bless.

[@coachp12b]

Yeah I wonder who it was who was copying the texts throughout the first 3 centuries. It wasn’t Protestants

[@everythingdefensivecarry1108]

Actually it’s 81 total books.

[@PastorwithoutaPulpit]

@@everythingdefensivecarry1108 Umm No, the Cannon was ratified in Carthage 397 AD. So according to that council and church fathers there are only 66 books included in the Bible. They reached that determination after years of debate. The reason the "lost books" weren't included in the cannon was due to there being to hard to prove, to many variations existing that were supposed to be authentic, authorship, or divine inspiration ie far to many errors in them to be inspired by the Holy Spirit. Look into church history and you will find the details of what I'm letting you know. Take care and God Bless.

[@davidhawkins5329]

Dr White an expert trustworthy of my listening on this subject? Nope. Too much pride. I will remain as an ex protestant a cepted by God's grace and mercy into the 1 holy catholic & apostolic Church. Type in who started the catholic Church. Then type in who started yours. A man made religion you have perhaps. For 2,000 years back to the source is 1 choice. The other is branches of churches (4,000+) that came from the catholic trunk, which came from Judaism. They cannot all be right, because surely they Do Not agree with each other. God doesn't change- He is new every day. Come Home my protestant brothers & sisters. Come Home. ✡️✝️🙏💠🇨🇦😘

[@pio1483]

One note, that the Catholic faith doesn’t come from Judaism! Judaism is the name of the religion invented by those same Jews who denied Our Lord and had Him crucified, and its entire nature is to oppose Christ. The Catholic faith IS the continuity of the Old Testament Religion in the New Covenant, but Judaism is totally divorced from anything from God!

[@BenjaminBurnhamMusic]

What a legend. I predict James will go down as a giant of the faith.

[@timkhan3238]

lol, Dr. James White is a profound example of wasted energy in terms of Bible battle. He is a very miserable individual because he FAILED BIG TIME to annihilate KJV onlyism as he enthusiastically predicted it in his prime, full of vigor, and with a determined confidence. He lost the battle and his hair. KJV continues to thrive in the 21st century throughout the world, one proof that indeed it's the PURE, PRECISE, and PERFECT words of God. And all modern bibles are defective, deceitful, and fake bibles.

[@Lightning77305]

@@timkhan3238 Perfect comment, that guy loves all mistranslations and hates the Word of God.

[@menknurlan]

​@@timkhan3238another cult member spotted👆

[@eugenejoseph7076]

James White debates is what go me out of Calvinism! The guy is nothing more than a parrot for John Calvin. Reformers do not have one single original thought in their noggin !! Everything they say is a regurgitation of every reformer written words.

[@bazzy8376]

You'd think he would have mentioned how got our bible back when it was compiled in the 4th century. Maybe someday he'll do a vidio on "How We Got Our Bible." That will be much more interesting.

[@ralphowen3367]

Apparently both Augustine and Eusibius said that the N.T. was put together by the end of the 1st century. The book of Acts says that the Word of the Lord was published during that time. It does add up that we would have to wait 300 years until the Bible as a whole would be available.

[@aaronman3352]

He's done that a lot elsewhere.

[@bradleyperry1735]

When was it compiled in the 4th century?

[@garthmorgan1232]

The books that Protestants removed are from the Old Testament. Go compare a Tora from the 1st century to the Bible from 15th century and to a Catholic Bible from today. They all have same Old Testament books. The change happened after Lutherans removed (censored?) 7 books from Old Testament.

[@mark9531]

Good morning Garth. You said; "The change happened after Lutherans removed (censored?) 7 books from Old Testament." Luther never removed the Apocrypha from his German Bible. This must be a doctrine of the Catholic Church. But it is wrong. The entire Apocrypha was in Luther's 1545 German Bible. ____________________________ Luther treated the Apocrypha just like Jerome's Latin. *Both* Jerome and Luther separated the Apocrypha from the canon of scripture. And *Both* Jerome and Lither wrote a disclaimer in the introduction to the which characterized the Apocrypha as enlightening but not canonical, inspired, nor suitable for doctrine

[@Ephesians-yn8ux]

That line about the fossilized scroll being a copy of the Jerusalem Post, that killed me. LOL😂

[@chrishowell5491]

Thank God for the Catholic church compiling the bible!

[@andrewnunez7894]

That’s what you got out of this? Lol, he tells a story about one of the guys having to dedicate the translation so he doesn’t get burned.

[@michaelquintana1098]

Ya but he said the catholic guy questioned the catholic churches position ? So he wasn't ok with them as a catholic..

[@joebobjenkins7837]

That's like saying my son brought me and my wife together, when we were together for 6 yrs before he came around.

[@charlesfisher83]

Watched the debate with James White and Patrick Madrid, James White is a joke

[@Vitaconfide]

Perfect timing. I'm talking about this tomorrow night with a church group.

[@SaltShack]

This was a very interesting and entertaining presentation. But it was also horrifyingly frustrating to hear a Reformed Baptist harken with longing for the wisdom of the Church fathers in Nicaea, Constantinople and Chalcedon Councils then completely ignore Irenaeus and every other work of those same men like the liturgies of St. John Chrysostom and St Basil that date back to the same period much of the oldest texts of the Bible he references. Is it reasonable to suggest the Church Fathers were exclusively inspired by the Holy Spirit when it came to Scripture but completely lacking any kind of Inspiration whatsoever in every other component of their respective ministries from the time of Pentecost? In fact they are irrelevant if not completely in error when they established the ritual and traditions that actually predate the text according to the heresy of Sola Scriptura. This was like someone talking about recreating the text of the Constitution from historical accounts while ignoring the original copy right in front of you. The first century Church remains today through Apostolic succession and fidelity to the Church’s fundamental organizational principle established in first Century Jerusalem by James and the Apostles, enduring consensus.

[@somecalvinist6875]

Sometimes I take this information for granted because we’ve heard it over and over, but I forget sometimes that there are new Christians being brought to Christ every day. The Living God is sovereign and beautiful.

[@yacobshelelshaddai4543]

Did he just say that book he is handling IS 500 years old!?? AND the LAST printed without verse numbers? THEN WHY IS HE NOT WEARING GLOVES!?!? 😅 seriously though what the flip 😂 I want that thing to last mann that’s evidence we need that! LOL

[@nishisingh227]

How we got our Bible. Short answer - The Catholic Church

[@PatrickInCayman]

Correct

[@MrSupereshe]

I thought it was inspired (breathed) by the Holy Spirit 🤔 Something is not adding up

[@PatrickInCayman]

@@MrSupereshe It was. But you have to consider that a process was involved here. The bible did not assemble itself and flown down from heaven as a book ready to read by the general public. The original writings of the NT were inspired by the Holy Spirit _through the apostles and their scribes_ that wrote them down. *Then* the (Catholic) Church had to be *inspired* by the Holy Spirit to *identify* the writings that were *definitely inspired* apart from from the writings that were *not definitely inspired* to assemble an *inspired collection of writings,* we call scripture, into what we call the Bible today. Google, "the Development of the New Testament Canon", then read *scholarly sources* on the subject.

[@eliasrodriguez2650]

Is James White infalible?? Is he over 2000 years of Church teaching? Who taught what Mr.White is teaching for 2000 years of Church history? This is a new and different gospel.

[@IG88AAA]

The Catholic Church was authority that declared the canon of scripture. The canon was debated until the end of the 4th century and the first writing that had the whole canon as we know it today is from the early 4th century.

[@ManlyServant]

not protestant canon,so go away,talk about YOUR canon somewhere

[@pio1483]

@@ManlyServant “go talk about the true canon elsewhere, we enjoy ours which is missing books!” lol

[@PastorwithoutaPulpit]

You must know that God our Father and our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, the Lord of Lords and King of Kings, that although He hates the sin, He loves the sinner. If they will just come to Him and repent in their heart of hearts of all their sins, and proclaim Him as their Savior, their Lord, the Son of GOD. The reason I believe in the God of the Bible, the inerrancy of Scripture and that Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior. We have a reliable collection of historical documents written by eyewitnesses during the lifetime of other eyewitnesses. They report super natural events that took place in fulfilment of specific prophecies and claim that their writings are via divine inspiration and not from men alone. The super natural events are important in that they show the divine nature of God. Jesus Christ cast out demons, healed the sick, blind, deaf, dumb and paralyzed, walked on water, fed thousands with little, and was resurrected all of which have eyewitness accounts. The feedings alone were witnessed by the thousands He fed on the two separate occasions that we are told of in the Gospels. John tells us that there were many more miracles than what are recorded in the Bible/Gospels and that it would have filled volumes of books upon books were he to have written them all down and that it would have taken more than one lifetime to do so. The claim that men wrote the Bible so it can not be true means that no other book ever written should be believed, no matter the topic as they're all written by man. The Bible is not just a book it is a collection of books written over a period of thousands of years of which all those books are linked together by One Divine Author. In this collection of books there are over 40 authors but only one Devine Author who links them all together via the Holy Spirit. Those authors wrote down His inspired Word given to them by God. 66 Volumes/Books in the Bible. The bulk of the New Testament was written over a period of around 50 years. It was in 49 AD to 53 AD when the Scripture writings of the New Testament are thought to have begun. With the last living Apostle John dying in 100 AD. Over a period of around 1500 years it was preserved and passed on: In 3 Languages On 3 Continents There are 66,360+ source documents that have been found for the entire Bible of which there are 24,360 and counting source documents for the New Testament alone. 5,839 in the original Greek, some 2 million pages 18,524 translations of that Greek into other languages Some of the oldest sources date to 125AD which is within decades of the completion of all the books that were canonized as the New Testament. The New Testament cannon, (Gospels of the Apostles/writings, Epistles/letters to the early Churches, all sources and eyewitness accounts that were to be included), was decided at the Synod of Carthage in 397 AD. Those asking for "Scientific Proof" about the Bible are either ignorant or asking with evil intent. An intelligent person knows that the scientific method can not be applied to verify the Bible. Scientific Method is: 1) Has to be observable. 2) Has to be measurable. 3) Has to be repeatable. Therefore no history can ever be proven via scientific method. You must use the historical method based on: Eyewitnesses accounts. Documents from the time or as close as possible. Make sure the story is corroborated by as many sources as possible. Look for anyone/anything that attempted to prove any of it false in that time period or as close to it as possible. Did anyone successfully prove any of it untrue? If they had/have why is there no record found anywhere of it ever being disproven? Luke = Historian A man of science, a physician, an educated and logical man who researched and gathered the accounts of eyewitnesses. He recorded the actual eyewitness accounts of our Lord and Savior, those who had heard Him speak and were present/saw the signs/miracles He performed. He did this because the life of those eyewitnesses were coming to an end due to age and he was inspired to write them down via the Holy Spirit before they could be lost or perverted by time. John = Evangelist John is organized around 7 specific events/signs/miracles all seen by eyewitnesses and corroborated by many. So he also provides proof of accuracy/truth. Mark = The shortest of the Gospels and is very direct or "Just the Facts" if you like. Mathew = Was written to the Jewish audience and that's one of the reasons for the extensive genealogy of Christ. There are also more references to the Old Testament in his gospel compared to the others. Peter = He lays out all the proof for the Bible and it's accuracy in 1 Peter Chapter 1. He makes the arguments that justify it all as truly what happened and that it all happened as recorded in the Gospels, the entire Bible. All of the Apostles were eyewitnesses of Jesus and/or of the resurrected Christ. Including Paul whom Jesus came to as he was on the road traveling to Damascus to persecute more Christians. This would have been the resurrected Christ or a form of Him that came from Heaven. There were at least 300 eyewitnesses still alive when Corinthians was written who could have disputed it but no one did. Mathias became the 12th Apostles after Judas hung himself so the argument of there not being 12 Apostles comes from ignorance or evil intent. There have been over 25,000 archeological digs in which there has been absolutely no evidence found that proves anything in the entire Bible false but in those digs many things have been found that prove it true. Other cultures and non believer's historical documents show or corroborate people, places, wars and many things that are in the Bible. Yet none of them prove any of it to be false but they do strengthen it. Word for Word Translations prove just how accurate what we have is when you consider there's no way anyone could have falsified any of it, be it via intent or mistakes. Many church fathers in history have made extensive notes that include scripture throughout the centuries and no matter the time or place all those references to scripture corroborate each other. Which shows just how accurate translations have been throughout time and still are as long as they maintain a word for word ideology during the translation. To falsify any of it they would have to change every single source, do it in three languages, on three continents, over a span of thousands of years, with no one catching any of it, no one ever talking about what they'd done, leaving behind no traces that they'd done it. Not to mention they'd have to steal all of those sources to change them, changing them would be a massive undertaking considering they were hand written in those times and then put them back without ever being seen or caught during the entire process. My last statement is this: Simply put the Bible can defend itself like a lion just let it loose. (Use Scripture to defend Scripture because it is a collection of eyewitness accounts that has been proven true again and again). There's a very good movie titled "The God Who Speaks" that covers much of what I've said above. If you still have doubt I would recommend you watch it and even if you don't because it was very well made and presented. Take care and God Bless.

[@MikeM-cz5ln]

You aren't allowed to reveal that truth here.

[@IG88AAA]

@@ManlyServant How do you know your canon?

[@billyjohns7258]

All these preachers and ministers preach from different books that contradict the other versions like Revelation chapter 19 telling you about righteous act or deeds you do which removes Jesus as source of it.

[@christinelivebird]

From the Catholic Church.

[@newmannahas]

The Septuagint was good enough for Jesus and Paul. But not for James White!

[@ezer0923]

Was it the only translation available to them?

[@YankeeWoodcraft]

The Catholic Church created The Bible. ❤✝📖

[@Isaiah-ft5nx]

False. Laughably false.

[@YankeeWoodcraft]

@@Isaiah-ft5nx Okay then, when was the first Bible created, who created it and where was it created? Prove your claim. 😊 Because just saying that something is false, that doesn't make it false and if you don't respond, I'll post that information I requested from you and show everyone reading this the historical objective facts.

[@barbwellman6686]

He mentioned the Jewish Septuaguint in Greek, briefly spoke about manuscripts, then jumped to the 16th century. 😂

[@venalegaoi4218]

The Catholic Church gave us the bible. Give credit where its due.

[@PastorwithoutaPulpit]

When are the majority of Christ's followers going to stand up to the Cult of the KJVO crowd. I'm sorry Father but I know Your Word defends itself. I see so much doubt being sown in the Church by those who hold to the idea that the KJV is the only true Word of God when in fact know from discoveries since it's writing many things have been found to strengthen Scripture not weaken it. I will post this here again for those who have doubt caused by these zealots. They listen to so called teachers that know they have itchy ears who point out so called errors in translations of God's Word, (the speck) yet ignore the plank in their own eyes. The reason I believe in the God of the Bible, the inerrancy of Scripture and that Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior. We have a reliable collection of historical documents written by eyewitnesses during the lifetime of other eyewitnesses. They report super natural events that took place in fulfilment of specific prophecies and claim that their writings are via divine inspiration and not from men alone. The super natural events are important in that they show the divine nature of God. Jesus Christ cast out demons, healed the sick, blind, deaf, dumb and paralyzed, walked on water, fed thousands with little, and was resurrected all of which have eyewitness accounts. The feedings alone were witnessed by the thousands He fed on the two separate occasions that we are told of in the Gospels. John tells us that there were many more miracles than what are recorded in the Bible/Gospels and that it would have filled volumes of books upon books were he to have written them all down and that it would have taken more than one lifetime to do so. The claim that men wrote the Bible so it can not be true means that no other book ever written should be believed, no matter the topic as they're all written by man. The Bible is not just a book it is a collection of books written over a period of thousands of years of which all those books are linked together by One Divine Author. In this collection of books there are over 40 authors but only one Devine Author who links them all together via the Holy Spirit. Those authors wrote down His inspired Word given to them by God. 66 Volumes/Books in the Bible. The bulk of the New Testament was written over a period of around 50 years. It was in 49 AD to 53 AD when the Scripture writings of the New Testament are thought to have begun. With the last living Apostle John dying in 100 AD. Over a period of around 1500 years it was preserved and passed on: In 3 Languages On 3 Continents There are 66,360+ source documents that have been found for the entire Bible of which there are 24,360 and counting source documents for the New Testament alone. 5,839 in the original Greek, some 2 million pages 18,524 translations of that Greek into other languages Some of the oldest sources date to 125AD which is within decades of the completion of all the books that were canonized as the New Testament. The New Testament cannon, (Gospels of the Apostles/writings, Epistles/letters to the early Churches, all sources and eyewitness accounts that were to be included), was decided at the Synod of Carthage in 397 AD. Those asking for "Scientific Proof" about the Bible are either ignorant or asking with evil intent. An intelligent person knows that the scientific method can not be applied to verify the Bible. Scientific Method is: 1) Has to be observable. 2) Has to be measurable. 3) Has to be repeatable. Therefore no history can ever be proven via scientific method. You must use the historical method based on: Eyewitnesses accounts. Documents from the time or as close as possible. Make sure the story is corroborated by as many sources as possible. Look for anyone/anything that attempted to prove any of it false in that time period or as close to it as possible. Did anyone successfully prove any of it untrue? If they had/have why is there no record found anywhere of it ever being disproven? Luke = Historian A man of science, a physician, an educated and logical man who researched and gathered the accounts of eyewitnesses. He recorded the actual eyewitness accounts of our Lord and Savior, those who had heard Him speak and saw some of the many signs/miracles He performed. He did this because the life of those eyewitnesses were coming to an end and he was inspired to write them down via the Holy Spirit before they could be lost or perverted by time. John = Evangelist John is organized around 7 specific events/signs/miracles all seen by eyewitnesses and corroborated by many. So he also provides proof of accuracy/truth. Mark = The shortest of the Gospels and is very direct or "Just the Facts" if you like. Mathew = Was written to the Jewish audience and that's one of the reasons for the extensive genealogy of Christ. There are also more than a few references to the Old Testament in his gospels. Peter = He lays out all the proof for the Bible and it's accuracy in 1 Peter Chapter 1. He makes the arguments that justify it all as truly what happened and that it all happened as recorded in the Gospels, the entire Bible. All of the Apostles were eyewitnesses of Jesus and/or of the resurrected Christ. Including Paul whom Jesus came to as he was on the road traveling to Damascus to persecute more Christians. This would have been the resurrected Christ or a form of Him that came from Heaven. There were at least 300 eyewitnesses still alive when Corinthians was written who could have disputed it but no one did. Mathias became the 12th Apostles after Judas hung himself so the argument of there not being 12 Apostles comes from ignorance or evil intent. There have been over 25,000 archeological digs in which there has been absolutely no evidence found that proves anything in the entire Bible false but in those digs many things have been found that prove it true. Other cultures and non believer's historical documents show or corroborate people, places, wars and many things that are in the Bible. Yet none of them prove any of it to be false but they do strengthen it. Word for Word Translations prove just how accurate what we have is when you consider there's no way anyone could have falsified any of it, be it via intent or mistakes. Many church fathers in history have made extensive notes that include scripture throughout the centuries and no matter the time or place all those references to scripture corroborate each other. Which shows just how accurate translations have been throughout time and still are as long as they maintain a word for word ideology during the translation. To falsify any of it they would have to change every single source, do it in three languages, on three continents, over a span of thousands of years, with no one catching any of it, no one ever talking about what they'd done, leaving behind no traces that they'd done it. Not to mention they'd have to steal all of those sources to change them, changing them would be a massive undertaking considering they were hand written in those times and then put them back without ever being seen or caught during the entire process. My last statement is this: Simply put the Bible can defend itself like a lion just let it loose. (Use Scripture to defend Scripture because it is a collection of eyewitness accounts that has been proven true again and again). There's a very good movie titled "The God Who Speaks" that covers much of what I've said above. If you still have doubt I would recommend you watch it and even if you don't because it was very well made and presented. Take care and God Bless.

[@thelazziest]

It's not juat how versed he is that amazes me, its how he is wel articulated and has sense of humour too...I'm glad God gave the world people like Dr. White.

[@davidbradberry7637]

You would learn more Truth from Tovia Singer!!!

[@danarose6314]

Bishop Athanasius of Alexandria? Origen? The roots of the 27 books of the NT. Does this guy even mention them?

[@rhettb0683]

Any “church” that claims to be Bible based can’t be the church Christ founded. The Church preceded and produced the Bible. Anytime you accept the authority of the Bible you are tacitly accepting the authority of the Catholic Church.

[@ranjithjoy]

That's a very ignorant view. The old testament was canonised by the Jews. The church merely recognises that which is God breathed. It doesn't confer the characteristics of "God Breathed" to a text. The authority of any denomination can't be above scripture. And yes, the Catholic Church is just another denomination, but sadly another denomination that has anathemized the true Gospel.

[@aadschram5877]

@@ranjithjoy Not the bible but the Church (founded by Jesus Mat 16, 18-19) is the pillar and bulwark of truth.

[@Wolfschanzeful]

@@ranjithjoy yes the old testament was canonized by the Jews, and we also accept their authority. This is why Jesus talks about the "seat of Moses". That seat is held by the Pope today. The Catholic Church is the visible inheritor of the OT Jewish authority. James and you have an even more fundamental problem: how do you justify ripping out the deuterocanon? Even if the Catholic Church's infallible authority ended at just compiling the bible, how can you come along in 1500 and rip out some parts of scripture?

[@tillo1981]

@@ranjithjoy the Catholic Church is the common denominator my friend. Dr. White missed, intentionally I believe because he knows better, centuries of history about the Bible.

[@mcars100]

@@ranjithjoy the definition of denominations is a sect seperate from the One,Holy,Apostolic Catholic Church

[@Isaiah-ft5nx]

Summary: spends an hour tearing down your faith in any manuscript, makes little ‘jokes’ to keep the crowd in an emotional state, and concludes by saying we should trust that the Bible is preserved and true. This was a pretty weak argument with little to no evidence in comparison to others, and I’m appalled at the way he makes light of the whole situation. Jesus is the Word; this is a very serious matter. If we can’t agree on a Bible then we are divided. A house divided against itself cannot stand.

[@denisHolySpirit]

I just heard from Barnabas Aid about a man who prayed for 65 years to get a Bible. He has now read it cover to cover 5 times.

[@saintejeannedarc9460]

That is incredible. We are so blessed in the countries where we can get them so easily and affordably.

[@JosephUsher]

James White is one of those false teachers the Bible warns us not to listen to. If you do listen to him, you risk losing your salvation.

[@preacher031163]

I cant stand rambling...im in 11 minutes...do u ever get to the meat? Why cant u get to the point?? Why not tell us what it should read and show why?? What im seeing is a man trying to exercise his knowledge but not showing the evidence

[@thevalvefan1775]

The quality of this video is so pristine

[@EricBadong]

Audio's not too good, though.

[@RUFUS777]

Audio has many problem places

[@whoathatsanicememe3093]

Sounds like someone is stapling papers. I was listening and not watching and it reminded me of one of my college professors who would talk and staple all class long. Good times.

[@mikepruett1745]

@@EricBadong no bass

[@opindras.bangerh129]

Poor cherry picking on the history of the Bible to discredit the traditional text and the KJV. White forget to tell you of the 5000+ manuscripts that agree with each other and are the basis of the KJV. In comparison to the approx 45 that back the tradition of the Westcott and Hort text that all the modern Bible are reliant on. The tradition of the received text from Antioch may have its problems but not not half as much as the Alexandrian text.

[@dennisboznango4942]

where's the first 400 years of the story where the canon was determined?

[@sillysyriac8925]

Shhh! Prots don’t like to answer that question!!!!

[@davidthenewtheologian7757]

Clemente quotes Paul as scripture so does ignatius who died in 108

[@donrobertoni]

Stop revealing the truth ! This channel is to keep Protestants, Protestant !!!! 🤐🤫

[@dr.mofongo9001]

My thoughts exactly. Watched the entire video to see if he’d go there, but that part was conveniently left out.

[@BirchKST]

*recognized* not determined. The RCC, nor any church, has the authority to give authority to Christ. It was recognized as Scripture by Clement. Meaning it's authority predates any council.

[@fofs3084]

He was one of the guys who I followed when i became Christian. I didn't necessarily leave islam to be Christian, i started believing in evolution theory...but that in between phase was terrible because I had so many questions... And this guys put ot so plainly to someone like me who had all this nonsensical arguments, having come from islam. 🎉 I am so grateful for your work Dr White. Thank you.

[@JuanRamirez-pr9sx]

Thank God for the universal church (Catholic church ) for putting together the world of God through the Holy Spirit

[@Juno_Beach]

you mean the reformers

[@PatrickInCayman]

@@Juno_Beach No, they corrupted it

[@Juno_Beach]

@@PatrickInCayman just catch up on your reading from post Catholic Luther and Augustine , you know, fathers of the Protestant movement . If not for the reformers Protestants exposing Roman Catholicism Europe would still be in the dark ages . Basic Church History

[@pio1483]

@@Juno_Beachabsolutely not. You may have your faulty opinions about the righteousness of the Catholics or the Protestant Deformers, but it’s plainly historical and silly to deny that the Catholic Church compiled Sacred Scripture and defined the canon.

[@markbell2663]

@pio5119 Mystery Babylon is only a mystery to those who drink of her cup.

[@davidbradberry7637]

James White needs to go far away. If you think he's brilliant, boy are you deceived.

[@jkadofo]

We need a movie series of the story of the Bible manuscripts!

[@daddydaycareky]

It would be far too Catholic for many

[@cindiloowhoo1166]

@@daddydaycareky Well, The Catholics put the Bible together. Tis History.

[@daddydaycareky]

@@cindiloowhoo1166 agreed. I think many people would be shocked to learn this fact.

[@saintejeannedarc9460]

Is there anything else you'd like to be smug and proud of?

[@seanhillery1231]

A Lamp in the Dark by Christian Pinto.

[@peterjongsma3221]

This is good, but he should pay tribute to the Roman Catholic Church. They did all the handwriting.

[@jackjohnson2171]

If new testament writers are quoting from the Septuagint and the Septuagint miss translates the Hebrew, how is that considered divine inspiration?

[@jackjohnson2171]

yeah I know mistranslate

[@saboabbas123]

shhhhh...don't tell that to the parishioners!

[@brettlovett6011]

How do you know the Septuagint mistranslates the Hebrew?

[@kristenspencer9751]

sad that many have Bibles but never read them...God says "my people perish for lack of knowledge."

[@miranda54084]

Thanks to God for the Catholic Church

[@mcars100]

Amen Brother

[@australopithecusafarensis5386]

Amen thanks be Christ for the Church

[@geico1975]

Question: What Bible translation do you recommend?

[@mcars100]

@@geico1975 The NRSV Catholic Bible it’s the complete bible or the kjv Protestant bible it’s minus 7 books and tailored to false doctrines by Luther but is wrote poet and great for memorising.

[@geico1975]

@@mcars100 What are your thoughts on Douay-Rheims?

[@CaryChilton]

from the Catholic church....

[@michaelriden4988]

Its bizarre how underrated Dr. White is.

[@tonybasoni8443]

MR,....Yes, he is a fantastic speaker.

[@Nolongeraslave]

True servants of God are rarely recognized. But their work lives on.

[@mayorofbasedville7680]

What's bizarre is that he uses the title "Dr"

[@codysmith7038]

82 thousand views and only 2800 likes. That’s not good Jimmy. How many dislikes? Bet you want show that.

[@marthaj67]

All you critics, say what you will about him, but Dr. James White is RIGHT when he says that we MUST! LEARN! HOW! WE! GOT! OUR! BIBLES! _And then teach it to our children and grandchildren._

[@QuestionThingsUseLogic]

Yes, Rome gave you your bible. Arrius Piso and his family members wrote the entire NT plus Esther and Josephus. He called himself the ALPHA and OMEGA as his name starts with A for Alpha and ends with O for Omega. His relative, Flavius Titus, called himself the son of man.

[@dylanfreeman9160]

@@QuestionThingsUseLogic bro you need to take off your tin foil hat. Thats not even close to true lmao

[@QuestionThingsUseLogic]

@@dylanfreeman9160 you need to say that to the historical scholars who have researched this. And I'm talking *serious* historical scholars. Historians no longer spend much time discussing Abraham or Moses, on the grounds that they are clearly mythical. To give one example, K. L. Noll just says in Canaan and Israel in Antiquity: A Textbook on History and Religion, “Abraham and Moses are fictitious characters”. "I’ll start with what most historians believe regarding Moses, because if Moses did not exist and the Israelites were never sojourned in Egypt, the link is broken and Abraham, by default never really existed. After two hundred years of searching and never finding a scrap of evidence that the Israelite people fled from Egypt in a great biblical Exodus, nearly all historians now say the Exodus never occurred-Israelites were local Canaanite people and the Exodus story was just a foundation myth. There is no evidence for any of the events surrounding the purported Exodus from Egypt and therefore no evidence that the biblical Moses ever existed." Maybe you need to take off *your* tin foil hat and face some actual facts.

[@michaelrameriz2723]

Got mine from God...😊

[@jayden-jsjincorporated5089]

@@QuestionThingsUseLogicthe exodus can still be true without any “evidence”. if we had proof then that would mean for certain that it happened, if we don’t (besides the written text) then that does NOT mean it didn’t happen. it means that it could have, or couldn’t have and we have to look further to make that decision based on other things. there are many historical events that don’t have “evidence” of them happening but we believe them because they were written about

[@JimL2883]

His peripateticness is making the annoying sounds from the mic.

[@GuitarJesse7]

I’ll give credit for the talk being entertaining and I agree we should be incredibly grateful for the riches we have in modern access to the Bible. We definitely take it for granted to our shame. Other than that I think this talk was sadly lacking and mostly an apologetic for Protestantism. Notice how Dr. White turned what was supposed to be about getting the Bible into mostly talking about the time of the reformation and printing press (though I’ll give credit about the historic reference to those martyrs who protected and spread the early manuscripts) There was also a slight mention of the council of Nicea. But the point is, the people at the council of Nicea did not believe what Dr White does. And he can’t really talk about the canon of scripture and how that came to be without recognizing that it was tradition and councils and comparing with the liturgy that led to what was put in the Bible. And that was done by the early church fathers, aka the Orthodox Church tradition . What about the role Athanasius played in establishing the Canon? Also, until like the 1800’s it was common to have the longer canon of the Old Testament, but then some Bible societies got rid of them. Point is, Protestants can’t really talk about how the Canon was determined without compromising their SOLA SCRIPTURA doctrine (which is not what the people who determined the canon believed). I’m not an expert of this stuff, but even I can see the holes in this presentation and the most likely blatant omission of certain uncomfortable facts of history. Also, Martin Luther is an ironic person to reference when talking about how we got the Bible considering he wanted to “reform” the Bible and remove James because it didn’t jive with his doctrines. Sounds more like Sola Scriptura so long as it agrees with my teaching. Also, I’m from an evangelical background, so people can’t accuse me of being a Roman Catholic or Orthodox wolf trying to undermine the Bible. I love the Bible, but the more you dig the more you realize how novel so many Protestant doctrines are and how out of touch with the historic faith they are. So maybe we should spend less time listening to modern scholars, and more time learning from the early church about what the Bible is and how we should understand what it contains.

[@mjojco]

He had an hour to speak.

[@pio1483]

@@mjojco​​⁠ if he had an hour and the title of the talk was “How We Got Our Bible,” then he should’ve left out all the nonsense about Protestants and their erroneous translations and done exactly what @GuitarJesse7 said lol. He should’ve gone to the beginning, especially to the Council of Rome. But, that would disprove most of his false ecclesiology, so he conveniently ignores it.

[@jessebryant9233]

40:00 in, not that much substance... And it kind of seems like he wastes a lot of time trying to be cute. Are there more parts to this?

[@Cpursup]

So Good and sharing this!! Thank Youuu!! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 Starting the “making sense of manuscripts” now! Exciting!!

[@pio1483]

For Protestants, “church history” starts in 1517

[@danarose6314]

In the US it starts with Billy Graham

[@mayorofbasedville7680]

Ah yes 1517; the year the King James translation of the Bible descended directly from heaven written in the handwriting of God himself. Prior to that, all of Christendom were just wondering around aimlessly scratching their heads.

[@truthgiver8286]

Some guys waded through piles of ancient writings and chose the ones that sent the message they wanted to promote and left out the ones that went against said message.

[@PastorwithoutaPulpit]

You must know that God our Father and our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, the Lord of Lords and King of Kings, that although He hates the sin, He loves the sinner. If they will just come to Him and repent in their heart of hearts of all their sins, and proclaim Him as their Savior, their Lord, the Son of GOD. The reason I believe in the God of the Bible, the inerrancy of Scripture and that Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior. We have a reliable collection of historical documents written by eyewitnesses during the lifetime of other eyewitnesses. They report super natural events that took place in fulfilment of specific prophecies and claim that their writings are via divine inspiration and not from men alone. The super natural events are important in that they show the divine nature of God. Jesus Christ cast out demons, healed the sick, blind, deaf, dumb and paralyzed, walked on water, fed thousands with little, and was resurrected all of which have eyewitness accounts. The feedings alone were witnessed by the thousands He fed on the two separate occasions that we are told of in the Gospels. John tells us that there were many more miracles than what are recorded in the Bible/Gospels and that it would have filled volumes of books upon books were he to have written them all down and that it would have taken more than one lifetime to do so. The claim that men wrote the Bible so it can not be true means that no other book ever written should be believed, no matter the topic as they're all written by man. The Bible is not just a book it is a collection of books written over a period of thousands of years of which all those books are linked together by One Divine Author. In this collection of books there are over 40 authors but only one Devine Author who links them all together via the Holy Spirit. Those authors wrote down His inspired Word given to them by God. 66 Volumes/Books in the Bible. The bulk of the New Testament was written over a period of around 50 years. It was in 49 AD to 53 AD when the Scripture writings of the New Testament are thought to have begun. With the last living Apostle John dying in 100 AD. Over a period of around 1500 years it was preserved and passed on: In 3 Languages On 3 Continents There are 66,360+ source documents that have been found for the entire Bible of which there are 24,360 and counting source documents for the New Testament alone. 5,839 in the original Greek, some 2 million pages 18,524 translations of that Greek into other languages Some of the oldest sources date to 125AD which is within decades of the completion of all the books that were canonized as the New Testament. The New Testament cannon, (Gospels of the Apostles/writings, Epistles/letters to the early Churches, all sources and eyewitness accounts that were to be included), was decided at the Synod of Carthage in 397 AD. Those asking for "Scientific Proof" about the Bible are either ignorant or asking with evil intent. An intelligent person knows that the scientific method can not be applied to verify the Bible. Scientific Method is: 1) Has to be observable. 2) Has to be measurable. 3) Has to be repeatable. Therefore no history can ever be proven via scientific method. You must use the historical method based on: Eyewitnesses accounts. Documents from the time or as close as possible. Make sure the story is corroborated by as many sources as possible. Look for anyone/anything that attempted to prove any of it false in that time period or as close to it as possible. Did anyone successfully prove any of it untrue? If they had/have why is there no record found anywhere of it ever being disproven? Luke = Historian A man of science, a physician, an educated and logical man who researched and gathered the accounts of eyewitnesses. He recorded the actual eyewitness accounts of our Lord and Savior, those who had heard Him speak and were present/saw the signs/miracles He performed. He did this because the life of those eyewitnesses were coming to an end due to age and he was inspired to write them down via the Holy Spirit before they could be lost or perverted by time. John = Evangelist John is organized around 7 specific events/signs/miracles all seen by eyewitnesses and corroborated by many. So he also provides proof of accuracy/truth. Mark = The shortest of the Gospels and is very direct or "Just the Facts" if you like. Mathew = Was written to the Jewish audience and that's one of the reasons for the extensive genealogy of Christ. There are also more references to the Old Testament in his gospel compared to the others. Peter = He lays out all the proof for the Bible and it's accuracy in 1 Peter Chapter 1. He makes the arguments that justify it all as truly what happened and that it all happened as recorded in the Gospels, the entire Bible. All of the Apostles were eyewitnesses of Jesus and/or of the resurrected Christ. Including Paul whom Jesus came to as he was on the road traveling to Damascus to persecute more Christians. This would have been the resurrected Christ or a form of Him that came from Heaven. There were at least 300 eyewitnesses still alive when Corinthians was written who could have disputed it but no one did. Mathias became the 12th Apostles after Judas hung himself so the argument of there not being 12 Apostles comes from ignorance or evil intent. There have been over 25,000 archeological digs in which there has been absolutely no evidence found that proves anything in the entire Bible false but in those digs many things have been found that prove it true. Other cultures and non believer's historical documents show or corroborate people, places, wars and many things that are in the Bible. Yet none of them prove any of it to be false but they do strengthen it. Word for Word Translations prove just how accurate what we have is when you consider there's no way anyone could have falsified any of it, be it via intent or mistakes. Many church fathers in history have made extensive notes that include scripture throughout the centuries and no matter the time or place all those references to scripture corroborate each other. Which shows just how accurate translations have been throughout time and still are as long as they maintain a word for word ideology during the translation. To falsify any of it they would have to change every single source, do it in three languages, on three continents, over a span of thousands of years, with no one catching any of it, no one ever talking about what they'd done, leaving behind no traces that they'd done it. Not to mention they'd have to steal all of those sources to change them, changing them would be a massive undertaking considering they were hand written in those times and then put them back without ever being seen or caught during the entire process. My last statement is this: Simply put the Bible can defend itself like a lion just let it loose. (Use Scripture to defend Scripture because it is a collection of eyewitness accounts that has been proven true again and again). There's a very good movie titled "The God Who Speaks" that covers much of what I've said above. If you still have doubt I would recommend you watch it and even if you don't because it was very well made and presented. Take care and God Bless.

[@dutchboyslim5951]

Through councils. Get over it.

[@lewislibre]

Dr white is amazing. Equally smart as he is funny

[@Koinoniaoftheheart]

"Hassios"? The Greek word for 'holy' is "Haggios". Good talk, and he even mentions some Church councils, but nothing on the fact that for 1,600 years both Orthodox and Catholics have had nearly identical canons of Scripture that you Protestants inherited. His stories are nice, but they miss the forrest for the trees.

[@jimmyintheswamp]

"You're welcome." -The one, holy, Catholic and apostolic Church.

[@palabraviva5840]

That has killed thousands.. thanks Catholic Church you have killed many evangelical pastors here in Mexico . Don’t preach what’s in the Bible that you claim comes from you. Mislead thousands and much more. It was actually the Spaniards that were Catholics that came to Mexico and killed thousands , took over their land and forced the people into Catholicism

[@jimmyintheswamp]

@@palabraviva5840 "You're welcome" for protecting, curating, and spreading the Scriptures during the first 300 years of Christianity when people were being tortured and killed left and right for merely mentioning the NAME of Jesus. Anytime you read or quote from Sacred Scripture you acknowledge the historicity and authority of the Catholic Church. Say whatever you want about those who have done horrible things in the past in the name of Catholicism. There are countless Catholics who either died or toiled in secret so that YOU can claim Christianity as your own. So, "you're welcome."

[@palabraviva5840]

@@jimmyintheswamp I think the one who should be saying your welcome is Jesus himself. He is the reason for Christianity . He is the way, the truth and life. I thank him for his blood that washes me clean. It’s going to be interesting to see how He works all this out in the end. Many are going to say Lord, Lord but he will tell them I never knew you. Just one side note…only the Jews can lay claim to the OT so they might would tell both of us “you are welcome “ without the OT there wouldn’t be any NT

[@jimmyintheswamp]

@@palabraviva5840 I 100% agree with you! Only Jesus is worthy of true praise. That said, "the blood of the martyrs is the seed of the Church" (Tertullian, 197 AD). Without the zeal and willingness of the first generations of Christians to join Jesus in His suffering unto death there would be no Church! These people were CATHOLIC and called themselves CATHOLIC. The Hebrew Scriptures are used in Christianity because the CATHOLIC CHURCH continued the same liturgy that Jesus Himself gave us (see Justin Martyr's "First Apology"). He Himself showed us how to read salvation history in the Hebrew scriptures. The Catholic Church, in continuing the traditions handed down by Christ Himself, included the Hebrew Scriptures in the Biblical Canon alongside the Good News of the Gospels. I am grateful for the sacrifices and tenacity of the early Catholic Church. Without them we wouldn't even be having this discussion.

[@ralphowen3367]

Holy does not mean justified by faith, Catholics differ in their belief system from true Christians, and the teachings of the R.C.C. do not provide the right Christian world view.

[@jamesj2022]

In the King James Version (KJV) of the Bible, the Book of Hebrews provides a well-known definition of faith in Hebrews 11:1: "Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen." This verse emphasizes the concept that faith involves a confident assurance or trust in things that are hoped for but not necessarily seen or proven. It underscores the element of conviction and assurance in religious belief.

[@markbell2663]

i - the smallest letter in the English alphabet and yet the most destructive.

[@michaelcontreras148]

The Catholic Church gave us the Bible

[@rodneyaustin3999]

Dr. White looks like he could be Dr. Voddie brother from a white mother.

[@mcars100]

The Catholic Church selected the books that makeup the bible

[@hewhohasearstohearlethimhe9509]

No, the ungodly cult of catholicism had nothing to do with selecting the books that make up the Bible, God selected them. Who God uses to do his will is irrelevant. The Bible is a product of God, not a product of a church, or of man/men. Are you trying to say that the cult of catholicism is not a 100% antigod/antibible/antichrist manmade cult?

[@mcars100]

@@hewhohasearstohearlethimhe9509 Thanks for given me your opinion typical(solar scriptura)why not give me some facts and try change my mind?

[@hewhohasearstohearlethimhe9509]

@@mcars100 ,....I have not given you any opinion as you want (need) to believe. I have given you the truth of God and his word that he himself gave to mankind. You are spiritually dead and blind, I cannot change your mind (make you spiritually alive) only Jesus can do that. I can only give you the truth and leave the rest up to God. I just plant the seeds and it is up to God/Jesus to make them grow if it is his will to do so in anyone. Jesus came to save his people and these few Jesus makes spiritually alive and keeps them from being ensnared into the Godless religions of ungodly men. The entire church is apostate, both catholic and protestant as well as everything else that calls itself Christian. It is all another gospel and another religion. It is all an antichrist christianity. A replacement for the real thing.

[@mcars100]

@@hewhohasearstohearlethimhe9509 Jesus Christ’s promise to peter was the gates of hell shall not prevail against the Catholic Church so become Catholic and receive the grace needed for the coming tribulation.Hope you understand the truth sooner than later

[@hewhohasearstohearlethimhe9509]

@@mcars100 ,....This is how absolutely blind, lost, and deceived you are. Like the rest of what you have stated, this is 100% unbiblical nonsense proving with 100% certainty that you have zero actual Biblical understanding. What Jesus actually said to Peter was, Whom do you say that I am, and Peter responded, Thou art the Christ, the son of the living God. Jesus then said, that flesh and blood (mans intellect) has not revealed this to him, but God himself indicating that Peter was one of Gods chosen ones, one of his elect. It was upon this truth, (rock), that Jesus was the Mesiah, the son of the living God that Jesus's church would be built. Built on the few Jesus came to save just like Peter. It had nothing whatsoever to do with Peter or a church, but only on the fact that Jesus's bride is built on/with those few Jesus came to save, and these few have nothing to do with any church and especially not the 100% antigod/antibible/antichrist cult of catholicism. The catholic church is the gates of hell and all those that do not belong to Jesus have all gone through the gates of hell when they got snared into the false, manmade cult of catholicism, (the synagogue of satan). The tribulation started in the time of Jesus and the apostles and will continue until the last day when Jesus returns and cast all those in all the apostate churches, both the catholic and protestant churches into the lake of fire. You are completely spiritually dead and blind and are Gods enemy. You prove this by your total lack of Biblical understanding that you expose every time you speak. Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand!

[@shanebuckles9134]

I would love to see the king James English translated to Hebrew and or Greek to see if it would like up with the originals. Just reverse the process and see.

[@tysonguess]

How we got our Bible: Because the Catholic Church wrote and compiled it (the efficient and formal cause).

[@AVKingJamesBible]

It didn’t though.

[@mcars100]

@@AVKingJamesBible It did why don’t you research it and not presume.

[@hewhohasearstohearlethimhe9509]

TG,....Wrong! The ungodly cult of catholicism had nothing to do with writing the Bible. God wrote the Bible not the church. Those snared into the Godless heretical manmade cult of catholicism are those who do not belong to Jesus. They are the accursed of God and are just brute beasts made for destruction. 2 Peter 2:12 "But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption;" Jude 1:10 "But these speak evil of those things which they know not: but what they know naturally, as brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves."

[@mcars100]

@@hewhohasearstohearlethimhe9509 Hopefully one day you will enter the fullness of faith and truth please seek the truth

[@mcars100]

@@AVKingJamesBible It did that a fact your opinion is not in alignment with reality

[@matthewbroderick6287]

Jesus Christ our Great and Kind God and Savior, built His Church on Peter the rock, way before the new testament was ever written and that later determined the Canon, as the manifold wisdom of God is revealed through the CHURCH! The same Church authority in Peter the rock and sole key holder, who stood up and put an end to all the debating at the council of Jerusalem Regarding circumcision, since SCRIPTURE ALONE COULD NOT, as Peter authoritatively ruled that circumcision of the Flesh was no longer necessary, even though Holy Scripture said that it was! James White is one of those false teachers that Saint Paul warned us about! James White admits that no Protestant can ever know with infallible certitude what Jesus Christ meant by "this IS MY BODY " or who the Woman is in Revelation 12, as Scripture ALONE is infallible, thus making all their interpretations, FALLIBLE! James White is in my prayers as he journeys toward Truth! Peace always in Jesus Christ our Great and Kind God and Savior, He whose Flesh is true food and Blood true drink

[@keynent]

I so wanted to know about this topic. Thank you so much. God's Word endures forever.

[@Ricorocs]

so what bible is the one he thinks we should use.

[@jorgeruiz599]

Near the beginning of the talk he mentioned which one he uses

[@naf2016]

Does he have a book on this subject? I think it will be tremendously helpful if he publishes a book on this subject so that we can have all this information in one place

[@str223]

Check out "The King James Only Controversy" Second Edition by Dr. White

[@Biblical_Mystery]

To the one reading this, remember that in every circumstance, God is your constant companion. He leads your way, stands by your side, and watches over you. Take confidence in the knowledge that God is present in your life. Amen 🙏💖🌟

[@BoereworsRoll]

Imagine knowing what this guy knows. Take a minute to understand what he knows… at any minute, this guy is down to debate the very nuances of biblical history, theology and biblical print history. That’s actually incredible.

[@cjr4497]

He is a narcissist, a Calvinist, and a poor debater in general. He is a "Church of me" guy in direct defiance of the Bible. He also does a lot of misleading in this talk and he knows it.

[@BoereworsRoll]

@@cjr4497 That is a big claim. What do you have to back that up? If you're going to go to the trouble of responding to my comment, surely you have some videos or previous experiences to share?

[@punstir1292]

JW can claim this all he wants. At the end of the day there is one infallible voice for binding matters to the church and it isn’t him. JW deceives us and needs to resign his “job”. We all whether we like it or not, assume the Church Hierarchy gave us the canon, and if you don’t, you immediately imply that another watered down hierarchy did it

[@saintejeannedarc9460]

@@BoereworsRoll People that don't like him, really don't like him. They are usually Catholics.

[@Greg-n]

​@@BoereworsRollWatch his debate with Trent Horn on salvation and also give his debate with Patrick Madrid a listen. Come to your own conclusions

[@dembieelainecopenhaver177]

If you go by the scripture - the invisible things of God are clearly seen by the physical things that are made (Romans 1:20) :: the Sinaiticus (place of death at My Sinai) and the Vaticanus (from false RCC church) would have been immediately rejected. I was disappointed that Jerome’s RCC Latin Vulgate was referenced, which was about 200 years after the Old Latin Vulgate. The RCC tried to pass Jerome’s version as the Old Latin Vulgate by giving it a similar name. It was rejected until Westcott and Hort revived it. You should learn what mysticism they practiced.

[@PatrickSteil]

Corrected Title: How we got our KJV translation. Was just happy that he mentioned the Catholic Church once. All Christians owe a great debt to the Catholic Church for the Bible and Faith that has persisted for 2000 years through much bloodshed and tribulation. God instituted His Church and that church remains even though so many have tried to destroy her.

[@tillo1981]

Yes!!! He's very clever and misleading. He missed centuries of history of the Bible. I pray all who watches seeks the FULL truth of where we got The Bible. Not, Our Bible. Very clever indeed.

[@PatrickSteil]

@@tillo1981 But it was also wild that it sounded like he was telling people that hey, the KJV may not be all that you thought it was... wild... I would love to hear him teach on how he ended up with fewer books in his OT. My understanding is that a printer decided this for Protestants... lol

[@hewhohasearstohearlethimhe9509]

Patrick,.....The catholic church is a 100% antigod/antibible.antichrist cult. It is the false manmade church of the accursed and of the spiritually dead. The ungodly catholic cult had nothing to do with giving the world the Bible. The Bible is a product of God, not of a church, or of man. All those blind, lost, and deceived people snared into the cult of catholicism have nothing whatsoever to do with the God, Jesus, or Christianity of the Bible. They are all brute beasts made for destruction. 2 Peter 2:12 "But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption;" Jude 1:10 "But these speak evil of those things which they know not: but what they know naturally, as brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves."

[@PatrickSteil]

​@@hewhohasearstohearlethimhe9509 Friend! Wow, so 1.3 Billion people who call themselves Catholic are Anti God? Those who are devout Catholics attend Mass as often as possible to worship the Triune God on their knees in reverent worship. Believe they are receiving the actual Body and Blood of Jesus (because he told us this in John Chapter 6 and it was practiced this way from the beginning of Christianity). Confess their sins at every Mass and to a Priest who offers absolution in the name of Jesus Christ (not by the power of the Priest). Pray to God/Jesus, the Holy Spirit directly in any number of prayers daily including 20-30 minutes in the Rosary. Read Scripture devoutly - not to find new revelations or new novel teachings, but to learn how to daily deny themselves, take up their cross and follow Him. These are the anti God, anti Bible, anti Christ cult you speak of? Who is our cult leader? The Pope? NO. Catholics do not look at the Pope as a cult leader, we don't worship Him. The office of Pope along with all Bishops and Priests who are trained and required to teach the same Truth that comes from God through Scripture and Tradition and yes even our own conscience. The Pope is not a deity - he is a man, he confesses his sins like every other Christian. You are spreading huge lies about the Catholic Church without ever studying her teaching to see if there might be anything good there. The Catholic Church has never depended on any MAN to dictate its theology or traditions - other than Jesus and the movement of the Holy Spirit in her Church. If you are Protestant, it is much more clear that Protestanism started because of a few men, who are still highly regarded like Martin Luther, John Calvin and Zwingle. But even these three never agreed with each other on fundamental doctrines such as the real presence of Jesus in the Eucharist (Luther believed it). Luther carried on confession to a Priest. Luther loved the Mother of God - Mary. But the one thing they all agreed on was that the Church had no Authority. It was up to each believer to be their own Pope - to interpret the Scripture however THEY wanted. Yes Protestants believe in man-made authority as well - there own authority. The Church says, no - as a Church we will discern and work out the interpretations over decades and hundreds of years in some cases rather than depend on any one man to sway us from the teachings of Christ. I spent 20 years in the Methodist Church, studied most mainstream Christianities. When you stop believing what you have been told by anti-Christian, anti-Catholics and honestly learn for yourself what she teaches, you will be drawn closer in to God than EVER before! God Bless

[@hewhohasearstohearlethimhe9509]

@@PatrickSteil ,...Yes, absolutely. All those snared in the Godless worlds cult of catholicism are Gods enemies and are outside the kingdom of God. Triune God? What? There is no trinity, that is a 100% false manmade CONcept. The Bible clearly tells the few who can actually understand it that God is seven spirits. This is why the Menorah that represents God has seven lights and not three. The fact is, I have spread the actual truth of the ungodly manmade cult of catholicism. It is the religion of the accursed and of the spiritually dead, and of the brute beasts as I have already explained to you. And sadly, like all those who do not belong to Jesus you (all catholics) go right back to your wallowing in the mire. This is because being completely spiritually dead this is all you can do. Protestantism started because a few actual Christians refused to be snared into the 100% antigod/antibible/antichrist manmade cult of catholicism. Catholicism is the false christianity of the spiritually dead, and nothing I say or explain to you will change anything. You are all accursed of God and just brute beasts with your manmade counterfeit (antichrist) christianity. Neither I or any man can open your blind eyes nor raise you from the dead. Only Jesus can do these things. I can only tell you, you have been deceived and to repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand!

[@CPATuttle]

Check this guys sources. He’s wrong

[@joshuaeliaquimramos2972]

Thank God for this.

[@AERONOOB]

You are welcome my child

[@laloboxing]

PARENTS of that crying baby PLEASE have some consideration and take him somewhere else. His noise can be heard throughout the entire conference.

[@tonybasoni8443]

Yes, absolutely! Totally agree.