Making a Box with a Lid Part 1 // Adventures in Bookbinding

[@gaelhillyardcreative]

When I was a little girl I used to imagine that this was it was like to be a grown up; measured, kind, sensible, skilled, and creative. I had my world and adults had theirs, and in my young mind this is what their world looked like. As it turns out, few adults I know are like this and it seems that they want to keep being teenagers not teachers. I am so pleased that there are people like you (and a handful of others I can think of on youtube, across all ages) who remind me that wisdom, skill, and simplicity still matter.

[@DASBookbinding]

Thank you for the nice compliment. Darryn

[@jamesglover831]

The best bookbinding and related videos available on the internet. Anyone can follow regardless of your level of experience . Thanks for sharing, I've been waiting for this vid!!!

[@denakuhn8852]

Look no further for a BEAUTIFULLY done box video - THANKYOU Darryn for your generous spirit.

[@justinwilliams4212]

These techniques were a revelation! I'm a knifemaker, and have also been using my workshop to craft wands but have struggled getting boxes up to standard. I think this video will really help so thank you very much for this. I will certainly be watching more

[@DiegoPereyra]

A Master... Thank you.

[@soliverostavares]

Sportin that teflon "bone" folder. Once you use it, you never wanna go back.

[@maryrayner6029]

At work they give us resin bone folders but I find I can’t clean the glue off… I purchased a bone bone folder- loving it…I t glides better and cleans up easier.. Thanks for the tip on pasting the sides…

[@soliverostavares]

@@maryrayner6029 that kind of 'bone' folder, Teflon, glides on top of it like butter. It's worth the 20 bucks for it Id day

[@DASBookbinding]

I really like my real bone bonefolders. But I also like the chisel end of the teflon folder for box making. That's why you only see it in enclosure videos. I sell the teflon lifters and folders for $15AUD. Even thought it is supposed to be debunked, I like the bone folders soaked in oil. I think they clean off much better. DAS

[@Котикрукожеп]

thx you for your vids, here a comment to feed the algorithm

[@riverAmazonNZ]

I’ve wanted to know how to do this for a long while. Thank you for this clear info!

[@valeriacolivoro25]

Excellent video as always ... excellent quality ... execution. I love watching your videos. Thanks for always sharing.

[@oharakatie14]

I've always been nervous to make a box but you make such good tutorials, I think I'll have to try!

[@rosembergmartins2551]

Thank you very, very much🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽❤️

[@linthamdesigns]

Great Video as usual, regards to snapping the blades off, do you know that you can use the container that you showed with the new blades, well if you insert the blade into the left hand slot, you can snap the blade off, so it drops into the used blade compartment, on the container I have it show you how to do it.

[@simplyme-88]

I ❤️ your work and the way you explain

[@ernestobarrera2927]

Thank you por sharing! What a beautiful creation.

[@nashvillain171]

*Outstanding!* 😉👍

[@lilenmaluganiguillet7710]

You are a Genius!!!!

[@DavidCollinsRivera]

Can you do a bit of discussion in an upcoming video on the advantages/disadvantages of EVA and PVA glues for different projects? For instance, why was it better to use EVA in this particular build?

[@DASBookbinding]

I just happen to have easier access to an EVA designed for bookbinding than a PVA. Unless you are working in professional conservation where there is requirements to have certification to certain standards, then any PVA or EVA designed for use with paper is fine. Most of the PVAs I've used have a stronger and faster tack and thus are a bit more convenient for box making, especially if you are working against the clock (making money on a big job). DAS

[@GenWivern2]

Oh yes, I did enjoy that, and the previous video: many thanks. This sort of thing is very close to home territory for me, whereas all the shrinkage compensations in bookbinding as such just bother me something rotten. :-) I have a little challenge for you, if you think it might be fun, and that's the razor box. I'm sure you'll immediately know what I mean, but it's the flush finish between sides and lid, with the decorative pattern running through that's the thing rather than the shape. I freely admit to not having made one in a dog's age, although it used to be a little spare time speciality - they can be frustrating, but very rewarding if you get the fit just right and the lid comes off with an audible pop. Just the thing to keep a paring knife in, perhaps?

[@DASBookbinding]

I'm not sure what you mean - or I do, but I've never heard it called a razor box. Can you send me a link to an image. In the next few months I'll be doing another edge gilding video where I use these little frames to pick up the gold. I've been meaning to make a box to store these in, and well thought that could be another video. I was going to do the box inside a box, where the inside box extends up out of the outside box, and that's what the lid fits on. Is that what you mean? I usually just use coloured paper to cover the inside box. Sounds to hard to try and match patterns:) DAS

[@GenWivern2]

@@DASBookbinding KZbin has always been uppity with me about posting links, but let's have a go: img1.etsystatic.com/026/0/6664628/il_fullxfull.606716723_58xz.jpg That's a nice clean example, and it illustrates the principle of the lid fitting a deep rebate formed by a box within the box quite well, as you describe. They must have been made in their millions before the safety razor came along, so there may well have been people who did nothing else ... poor souls.

[@DASBookbinding]

@@GenWivern2 Yep, that is what I thought you meant. I suspect there are lots of small variations on how these were made. I've got my GxGrandfather razor in its original box. It's been chewed a bit by vermin, but mostly there. It has some interesting embossing on it. I suspect jigs were used to make it. A light card was rolled around a piece of wood, then covered with a fake leather type material and then it was embossed. I might stick to a bigger version. I think my fingers a too big for something that fiddly. Why I don't like miniature books:)

[@GenWivern2]

@@DASBookbinding Yes, I used to make them around a suitable stick of softwood - silicone release spray being an essential ingredient. You occasionally see small strops with a cover made along the same lines which is not a bad idea, actually, but otherwise I'm not doing well trying to think of a good use for a scaled up version unless there's a vast untapped market amongst slide rule users ... :-)

[@helenk4357]

Precision work, deftly executed. I am in awe. Would you mind suggesting which video to watch for the best way to make a sketchbook with 300gsm 100% cotton watercolour paper please? I would also like it to lay flat, is that possible? Thank you.

[@DASBookbinding]

Good question. Because the paper has almost no drape, to open the book spine needs a lot of flexibility. I think I'd go with sewn-board binding with 2 or even 1 sheet sections. DAS

[@helenk4357]

@@DASBookbinding Thanks very much DAS - I will give that a try.

[@ctfddftba]

I’ve just started making some decorative boxes, I’ve double checked each time that the pieces are the correct size in relation to each other, but while glueing the center some how becomes too small and there are gaps, is it because the dudes swell with the glue?

[@betty1660]

Can I ask what glue and cardboard do you use? To me the cardboard is deformed when I apply paper and glue.

[@DASBookbinding]

Under my "Materials" playlist there is a video called "Avoiding warped boards". I use a generic acid free binders' grey board which you will not get outside of Australia and Asia. Anything called grey board, mill board or Davey board will work. I have a heap of videos on adhesives. Have a look at the overview video. Good luck!

[@betty1660]

@@DASBookbinding Ooh, thank you!

[@arunavel0211]

Hello sir, how are you?

[@DASBookbinding]

All good!

[@Belzediel]

oh, pffff. I get free boxes all the time. Just teasin' ;-) No, but, seriously, someone thought snapping off blade sections was dangerous? One has to wonder what kind of crazy tissue paper world you'd have to live in for that to be a concern. Crossing a main road after fifteen pints of MacDougal's Mysterious Old Potion is a wee bit dangerous. Using a live crocodile as a hat is dangerous. Becoming the world's first tiger shark dentist is dangerous. Snapping off a wee bit of blunt metal that's designed to be snapped off? That's, like, 'ooh, that cucumber looks a bit sharp, best keep it way from me I might get a wee damp spot on my t-shirt'. That's like 'I always lie on the floor to put my socks on so there's no chance of falling off the bed.' Makes you wonder. Uncle Cosmo used to pop the spent sections by smacking the knife into his worktop and giving it a firm yank. When the worktop got too full of sticky up bits of metal, he'd just set to with a hammer and your wobbly wallaby's bubbly. Course one time he was knifing something at a mate's place and forgot his worktop wasn't there and absent mindedly tried to snap off a blade in his mate Creaky Sebastian's bum-cleavage, which caused all sorts of commotion and is the reason why the boat lost it's third rudder, but that's both a whole other story and a one-off event. Dangerous? Pffff.

[@Belzediel]

@@BacchatusJade Who are you?

[@DASBookbinding]

I feel like I threw the person that asked the question under the bus. Maybe I should have provided more context. I do get questions that seem unusual in the context of most people watching the channel - and me. The 2 main reasons are this channel makes it to corners of the world I would never have imagined and some things just aren't as common as they are where I am. The other is, let's call them young adults, that just don't have much experience yet, but present themselves in the questions as more mature. They just may not have come across simple common tools yet. And thus I wanted to give a serious answer demonstrating that these knives are actually designed to have the blade refreshed and that it's easy and safe to do so. Sorry I wound people up. DAS

[@Belzediel]

@@DASBookbinding Hardly wound up, just in my nature to tease.

[@Belzediel]

OK, Joe, darling, you're not entirely sane. Hate to say it, but there it is.