Package Q, Stroke 3 (Gulf War) | DCS World Reenactment

[@crystal.starr0]

In case anyone was wondering, "Stroke 4" was taken prisoner by the Iraqis and then released back to the US 3 months later.

[@lMobiuscidl]

Pretty considerate by the Iraqis part taking into account that they got bombed the fuck out.

[@16rumpole]

@@lMobiuscidl tice was tortured

[@mustang1912]

Tice was shot down by a mig 29. Of course it wasn't Tice, it was some guy who died and the air force hid the loss.

[@Gyyghhhhjjjkk]

@@lMobiuscidlhe was tortured bro.

[@timothyanadon9993]

@@mustang1912 You have NO idea what you are talking about. What Migs? I DO recall one visiting us in Qatar but they were on our side. The rest we grounded at the beginning of the war.

[@perotekku]

Pretty much the biggesy validation of stealth technology. SAM was already bad enough two decades earlier in Vietnam, Package Q just proved that even outdated SAMs, in sufficient quantities, could outclass traditional strike packages.

[@MrZazzles94]

Israelis dismantled a similar air defense system with far more hostile air cover in 81 without stealth aircraft, this was a validation of better planning and coordination.

[@stoogemoedude]

it was mainly the smoke. they couldn't see the target and abandoned the attack so as to not hit residential areas

[@commdate]

I was part of the rescue package for Stroke 4, Jeff Tice, unfortunately he was picked up almost immediately by Bedouines and turned over to Iraqis. He said he heard us while he was in a Bedouin tent. We tried…

[@silentcalibre1085]

that's all you can do brother he made it back

[@Curacaorider]

Mad respect for all you PJs. If you guys knew where he was, there would have been hell to pay !!

[@timothyanadon9993]

GLICM or PC? Thanks for looking for Tico.

[@pontiacGXPfan]

Sorry to hear it but at least he came home, unlike Dale Cormier(LOJ) and Mike Chinburg(Chins). May they rest peacefully

[@dr.captain1079]

You did you best, and you tried and you almost had him, we recovered him, glad you made it out yourself.

[@croma81]

Legends says Stroke 3 still defending over Bagdad...

[@thelukesternater]

I thought he was pow to this day? Still unbroken in some cave with Barney the dinosaurs ‘I love you you love me’ on repeat. The legend grows...

[@brandonfurr7080]

"Stroke 3 defending 194,729"

[@Icewolf_fgr]

Legends say stroke 8 is still blind

[@dsdy1205]

He probably still is, in his sleep

[@alexeilindes7507]

Few are capable of delivering on 3

[@MDRM68]

Ill bet Stroke 3 had some choice words for his Crew chief when he got back after none of his ACM deployed...

[@drutalero2962]

Crew chief can't control that. That's weapons or avionics. Those are two different shops in the same amu. Even then, jets fuck up sometimes. Turns out this was the worse time.

[@drutalero2962]

He should have been happy the jet was able to bring him back, and that's on periodt

[@thebeasters]

Fuck at 8:00 did they really miss by inches? That's crazy

[@anglerfishtanking]

@@thebeasters if you watch the hud cam footage, even at its low quality, you can see the missile trails fly right past him, so it was extremely close.

[@BWEEOOP]

Those were all radar guided missiles. Would chaff/flares have been effective, anyway?

[@thevictoryoverhimself7298]

Fun fact: The nuclear facility they targeted here had also been attacked in the previous decade by the Israelis, only partially damaging it. But this attack worried the soviets that their similar reactors could be attacked from the air and developed a test where in the event of power failure after an attack, the momentum of the turbines would keep power going to the coolant until diesel generators could be started. This test was performed at a relatively new reactor constructed in the Ukraine SSR not far from Kiev. It was mishandled and caused a nuclear accident: Chernobyl.

[@michaelparkerson2430]

Wait so from what I'm reading, there could have been a 2nd chernobyl?

[@Mynameismegalex]

@@michaelparkerson2430 No mate, I misread it at first too, but he's saying an Israeli attack *before* the Gulf War was at least part of the reason why the original Chernobyl accident happened in 1986. Can't say what he's referring to exactly but apparently there was at least one Israeli attack in 1981.

[@garrettobrien5197]

What’s even cooler is that the new top gun is based on that attack by the Israelis.

[@TeenWithACarrotIDK]

⁠​⁠@@Mynameismegalex I think he is saying that they created a new system for Chernobyl to prevent something like what happened to the one that was attacked by Israel, but they apparently fuck up when doing a test.

[@jackarmstrong8790]

@@TeenWithACarrotIDKthe system didn’t work properly.

[@dannybonura3927]

There must be no worse feeling then when he calls for stroke 4 and hears nothing you can hear in his voice that a part of him know he just lost a friend

[@LokiFar]

He lived.

[@thelukesternater]

@@LokiFar and was returned, WERES THE MOVIE?!?

[@LokiFar]

@@thelukesternater They are overrated. Besides, remakes are the new thing now, new material is frowned upon.

[@thepsychicspoon5984]

@@LokiFar but he didn't know that at the time.

[@Monsuuri]

He calls? It's stroke 1 or 2 calling him

[@jschmalzel1787]

Fantastic work on this, it's really cool to see it in an external view rendition of that famous hud cam footage

[@soonerfrac4611]

I was a kid living at Spangdalem during the war, my dad was the XO of one of the squadrons. I know it’s a quibble but there were no F-15’s at Spang at that time. They were 30 miles away at Bittburg.

[@glap8736]

Totally agree

[@Flying_Snakes]

Due to weather obscuring the targets. The vast majority of aircraft missed or didn't release. Stroke 3 came in late and did hit his target before shaking 6 SAMs on the way home.

[@christopherbernhardt]

Man they really wanted Stoke 3 lol, they wasted their entire stockpile of SAM missiles on him lol

[@filipeferreirac]

Iraqi SAMs: Fuck this guy in particular

[@the215sean]

The problem was the massive heat signature and radar cross section of stroke 3s balls.

[@thepsychicspoon5984]

I can only imagine this is like the most intense hardcore exercise you ever had in your life. Beyond your capabilities to sustain. Knowing that if you stop, you will die. Just when you think you are going to get a break, you have to start again. Just wow.

[@afterthefact6708]

You can hear it in his voice when he says "Stroke 3 defending again" He is killing himself to evade.

[@Josh-hr5mc]

With the amount of G's Tullia probably pulled evading 6 SAMs you know that airframe was x-rayed/tested after the fact.

[@mammutit]

he pulled 6.5G at the worst. the aircraft can handle 9

[@thelukesternater]

@@mammutit MMmMmmmMmMmMmMmmM nine YOUR FACE CAN HANDLE NINE!!!

[@mammutit]

@@thelukesternater thanks 😀

[@joelwoodall1050]

I mean he did eject lmao

[@Dodonko]

​@@joelwoodall1050 how would they be able to check if the chaff/flare failed to deploy if he ejects?

[@avramnovorra]

The original HUD had me biting my nails, this reenactment one-upped that and made me tense up.. Nice work again Dash99er!

[@allenjay896]

I cant imagine the struggle on how heavy those maneuvers are. Big respect for the pilot

[@afterthefact6708]

Stroke 6 defending again...he was killing himself to evade those SAMs. Multiple time you can hear him cry out when he thinks they are going to hit.

[@archer-0251]

you can get drunk with this... a shot/drink every time you hear "stroke 3 defending"

[@afterthefact6708]

Again.

[@SternLX]

Funny thing about the AGM-88... it doesn't need a Radar signal to track them if the enemy turns them off after they're launched. Many a Iraqi radar operator found that out the hard way.

[@magnitudefallout3944]

your point is hard to understand. which agm 88? C? the older version will not fly last point of signal origin, it will stop changing trajectory and will overshoot. so what do you mean? stopping the emission will help it to survive.

[@captainconway2236]

The newer versions of the AGM-88, the AGM-88E AARGM, do have that capability, but those models didn't even start development until 2003, and weren't in service until the early 2010s. The HARMs used in the Gulf war could be countered by shutting off the radar. In fact Iraqis learned to do this after intercepting radio calls of "magnum" which was the call for firing an anti-radiation missile, and were so in the habit of shutting down the radars that US pilots started Calling "Magnum" when they got a radar spike, even if they didn't have a HARM missile since it would get the Iraqis to turn off their Radar.

[@pumarolz]

When he calls for stroke 4 the second time it made me cry a little , he put his guts to that call , you can feel the fear for his friend being shot down , you can hear the dread for his friend in need, again this is while making a bomb run being fired upon and defending missiles , that is the epitome of courage, being worried for someone even when you’re in danger as well , every time I can i see the original hud vid but this just adds to the nail bitten adrenaline rush

[@scarecrow108productions7]

*Stroke-4, status? STROKE-4 STATUS?!?!?*

[@horrorfan117]

Worst part was Stroke 4 was the one who called out "BREAK RIGHT!" earlier and saved his life. Thankfully the pilot managed to eject and survived the war.

[@cming9423]

Why Tullia wasn't awarded a Medal of Honor is beyond me. It's my understanding that NONE of his Flare/Chaff countermeasures ejected from his aircraft during his fight. So that would mean that he evaded ALL of those missiles launched at him by sheer force of willpower in throwing his F-16 around the sky. Whoa.

[@craighofmann638]

The Medal of Honor goes beyond just saving yourself. He was awarded the Distinguished Flying Cross, however.

[@AragornRespecter]

You don’t get the medal of honor just for being a badass, you get the Medal of Honor for going “above and beyond the call of duty”

[@valsioncustom]

Medal of Honor is less about the prowess displayed and more about doing something nigh-impossible, even suicidal, in an effort to fulfill your duty - attempting to save lives or inflict a major blow to the enemy. Many of the recipients are Posthumous for a reason.

[@afterthefact6708]

A medal for valor would be warranted for achieving his mission and defending 6 SAM launches but most likely not the MoH. A distinguished service cross or a Silver Star would be IMO.

[@thepsychicspoon5984]

Medal of Honor are awarded to those that save lifes, usually at the cost of their own. Not nessarally "being a badass." The majority of those who have been awarded the MoH will never see it. Its very rare to be a "living" recipient, for a rare award, which is why they are highly respected.

[@Thetequilashooter1]

Nice job of reenacting the mission. I’ve heard the tapes before, but with the visual CG it was more intense.

[@dannybonura3927]

That slight wing adjustment at 7:58 saves his life

[@seeker296]

That's how it is. It's aiming for the engine. Your only chance is to get it out of the way at the last second

[@TeenWithACarrotIDK]

@@seeker296 They also can aim for the wings I believe.

[@AleX21166]

@@TeenWithACarrotIDK If it's S75 Dvina SAM then it doesn't necessarily need to "aim" for anything as it is guided by radar and the signals the missile "sees" are just a block of radar return if visualised. It's not heat seeking missile you're thinking of.

[@AleX21166]

The pilot just got lucky as this missile is literally pre Vietnam war technology ( first soviet SAM) so it's not as accurate

[@UTock]

I figured making this video would be as hard a dodging 6 missiles...good job

[@Dr.SandmanActual]

Amazing recreation! This was very well put together!

[@SPFLDAngler]

9:30 he’s so over it all lol… just wants it to end.

[@afterthefact6708]

Dude was killing himself with Gs, and the missiles just kept coming.

[@cant-kb8lm]

When the pro player still beats the hacker with Aimbot

[@RocketPropelledGuy]

In almost any other fighter he would not have been able to pull it off. Being capable of repeatedly sustaining 9 Gs and the viper retaining and recovering energy so well compared to other fighters was critical, you see how close every one of those SAMs were. He was just barely able to outturn them while still retaining sufficient energy for the next one.

[@h3llmutt326]

This is amazingly well done, should be used for training vs original HUD. This video gives a lot more perspective and insight into what really happened here. Great video.

[@alexanderleach3365]

Just unbelievable. This pilot had a guardian angel on his shoulders that day. Thanks to his training and coolness under fire.

[@killman369547]

Some of those missiles were so close i'm amazed they didn't proximity detonate, especially the missile at 7:59. If he'd timed that roll wrong that missile would've slammed into his wing.

[@Dash99erOfficial]

Thank God there wasn't. This would have been very hard to make if their was

[@supertucano604]

Dodgy soviet SAMs probably

[@SternLX]

Design flaw of the SA-1 and 2's and the 6's to some degree, if you turn toward them and fly towards the deck the closure rate is too fast for them to detect proximity. The computers on board didn't run that fast.

[@patrickrk44]

Imagine being the person firing all the Sam’s and how pissed he is watching this go down without counter measures 😅

[@hawk_thua]

Thanks to those AWAACS giving him visual of the AAA

[@unotratanti6650]

Your job with this video is absolutely incredibile... You make every single detail understandable, thank you sicerely

[@shikikan6345]

It's amazing how he was able to dodge all those missiles even without flares

[@jaybreezy9927]

Ahh. I love the ACZ reference. Thats my shit. One of the best in the series.

[@thelukesternater]

Why didn’t he use them? I can’t find out why?

[@thelukesternater]

Or did he try and they didn’t work? Would be a fighting the lads that stowed those munitions!

[@jaybreezy9927]

@@thelukesternater Yea they didn't work.

[@COALEDasICE]

@@jaybreezy9927 almost seems like he was setup for failure. The missiles only lock him, and none of his shit worked. Just weird to me

[@MaximilianoAedo]

1:04 I don't see AA Guns firing wildly.

[@sol2544]

He managed to stay above their range the entire time, which is what makes the feat so incredible: doing all this with limited altitude

[@jackarmstrong8790]

@@sol2544 he’s talking about the nighthawk

[@jackarmstrong8790]

The anti aircraft artillery didn’t engage the nighthawks.

[@Registered_Simp]

Stroke 3 literally has the attitude of "You call this resisting arrest (bombing)? We call this a DIFFICULTY TWEAK"

[@DmdMixZ]

For those interested - there is an interview with Maj. Jeffrey Trice on the Fighter Pilot Podcast, where he's telling the whole story.

[@trojandude3127]

AWESOME PILOT! quick CRITICAL THINKING. he purposely let go of his remaining bombs to become more agile to perform that maneuver to evade SAMs. Defending SA-2s are hard enough how much more defending against SA-6 much better SAM during that time. In total he defended and defeated 6 Surface to air missiles without or unable to use defensive counter measures (no chaff, no flares etc).

[@thelukesternater]

Also jetted his fuel tanks the mad lad!

[@LEPERCOLONY1]

Nicely done! I've listened to this\watched the video many times, and your representation looks awesome!

[@Hotaru-jp]

i thought i was getting insane, i thought i was the only one doing that. can't get tired of watching over and over again. For some reason this video, the setting, the place, the year, the conflict, the mission itself is nerve-racking.

[@McConaughey_83]

That's an incredible fighter pilot. Controlling his breathing taking those Gs with missles being fired at him. That's epic!

[@LottiDotti76]

What a boss! These vids are awesome! The screen going black to simulate getting close to G-LOC is a nice touch.

[@DinoPwn]

This is amazing! Ty you so much for this awesome breakdown.

[@jackreacher.]

When anyone walks away from this type of mortal threat, the remaining years of his life is a cake walk.

[@someasiandude4797]

Flying over enemy SAMs to find out all your counter measures don't work must be one bad feeling

[@trainer1]

Also a great testament to the F-16.

[@captaintoyota3171]

He ONLY made it home cause he kept his airspeed up during all those evades. If he'd slowed down too much when he got low he couldnt have evaded. Still that one at end u can hear how close the missle was in his voice

[@bugsbunny2198]

These videos are awesome man. Keep it up!

[@roostercogburn3272]

"In the opening hours of the war, the only coalition aircraft used for strikes was the F-117 Nighthawk. This limited damage to critical government buildings and other command and control targets." I hate to be a dick, but that isn't accurate at all. The only strikes exclusive to the F-117, were those conducted in and around downtown Baghdad. The first flight of F-117s to strike downtown, had a trail of coalition aircraft flying to their targets behind them that stretched over 100 miles. Before the first targets in Baghdad were hit, a huge flight of AH-64s attacked a radar installation on the Saudi/Iraq border (the first air strike of the war). Opening a hole in Iraq's integrated air defense network. Basically what I'm saying is that targets were being hit everywhere in Iraq and Kuwait in those first hours. By the entire coalition. It was a massively planned and choreographed series of attacks. Conducted by many aircraft. Not just F-117s. As far as "limiting damage to critical government buildings"...The F-117 was the only aircraft assigned to hit those targets. Most of the structures targeted downtown were hit with cruise missiles. Fired from ships and B-52s (flying to their release points all the way from Germany). I suppose one could argue that (technically) B-52s were also assigned to hit targets downtown, but that might be splitting some hairs lol.

[@okisoba]

👍

[@maanmohammad8459]

@SynthFrost Yes and supposedly because the bomb bay opened to release.But also that came many years after the gulf war and one can only assume that the Serbian army studied the gulf war,also they are highly trained being a previous Soviet satellite.

[@manofcultura]

Let’s not forget the brass balls on the tornado and jaguar pilots who flew so low they were dragging said balls enroute to killing airfield runways.

[@MrClassyTiger]

Can confirm this as I remember being up and watching it on TV when the very first *televised* strikes happened.

[@credible7692]

This mission needs a movie p

[@tpjv01]

Behind Enemy Lines: this is Arc Angel...we have 2 enemy misses tracking us! Stroke 3: only 2 missiles...hold my beer.

[@jigyashu8774]

Man i was waiting for such reenactment of the original video for a long time now.🔥🔥

[@Mikelaw709]

That was great to add some visuals to that already crazy HUD tape!!! But check spelling before uploading!! :)

[@pumarolz]

The fact not even one counter measure fired is either his confidence in his experience dodging or a failure to make another safety assessment for him and the aircraft, again balls of steel for et god bless America

[@killman369547]

Apparently his countermeasure unit malfunctioned.

[@recoil2952]

Very well done sir. Good job on details and times. Been a fan for aerial combat for all my life. Great job

[@tjv-logs]

Very awesome! The man "Tice" who was shot down bailed out just in time but was captured and tourtured for 40+ days but, he was saved I don't how he is now but hopefully he's doing just fine.

[@doggonemess1]

This was very well done! I always wanted to see an accurate representation of what was going on.

[@JarodARed]

Why are there no interviews with this guy?

[@pabllo2004]

Damm fantastic visual and audio sync work!!!

[@4ThoseAbout2RaxxWeSaluteU]

This was awesome thank you for making this

[@RyuzoSan19]

The fact that he evaded 6 missiles without chaff and flares.

[@MrZazzles94]

That Iraqi AD commander definitely threw down his hat and stamped on it.

[@chiefnug4098]

8:48 this one was crazy

[@somaths69]

He barely dodged 2 missles head-on at 7:59. Damn, the adrenaline just from that must be insane.

[@Refrigerator44]

R2D2 noises intensify**

[@JarodARed]

Great f'n work with this vid

[@FenianBrother]

Love the vids man keep it up

[@davidtodd1037]

That F-16 belongs in a museum somewhere after what it went through that day.

[@lilsak2163]

He’s too skilled for flares and chaff

[@marlonvillapando967]

Wow..😱 one badass pilot! 💪👌 Really, no matter how good or modern your aircraft nowadays, pilot is still the best inputs. 👌

[@natural997]

Great job recreating this

[@johnlang2293]

Legitimately terrifying. You can hear the stress and fear and tension in Stroke 3's voice. God bless them.

[@Dan_Swales]

7:25 dropped his bombs in case he got hit?

[@federationprime]

I think those are his disposable fuel tanks (drop tanks)

[@Dan_Swales]

@@federationprime I think you’re correct. I learned that it’s called jettisoning

[@alexdelgado6044]

I think he did that to be able to lower the weight and maneuver

[@perotekku]

9:15 the unimaginable amount of stress behind that "Fuck."

[@Rosskles]

Absolutely incredible maneuvering.

[@chingompiew1]

This is the real version of Top Gun Maverick!

[@Clementinewoofwoof]

I can only imagine how his face looked, must have been sweating and crying, dancing in the sky for his life…

[@sschreck]

Hell that was good job editing 👏🏼 👏🏼 👏🏼

[@stupidgoose356]

Shheeesshh, dodging 6 missiles with countermeasures.

[@jubjub7101]

Stroke 3 got the workout of a lifetime! What a true American badass!!

[@PlatonicallyAngry]

Imagine being the dudes on rhe ground. Your headed to your post to try n defend your captured oil refinery, only to look up n watch as this pilot dodges 7 of your missles.

[@YlmazDALKIRANscallion]

Great reanimation. Thank you!

[@alexjones9308]

Brian Williams was there piloting a Wildweasle mission. It was because of Brian that ET made it back.

[@neauxmad1048]

Not me stressing while playing Ace Combat 7 😅

[@a_rice_bowl3663]

I don’t know who was more upset afterwards, him for his countermeasures not functioning, or the Iraqis who just sent 6 missiles after one jet who just appeared to not use countermeasures and just dodge them

[@maeezh5466]

The pilot is just built different

[@EliteLX]

bravo and thank you. Really well done!

[@flintsky7706]

STROKE 4, STATUS!

[@curtismes]

stroke 3 had a stroke defending SAM launches....

[@thelukesternater]

9:02 confirmed.

[@olmanzomby7718]

That was intense!

[@farginbastage805]

If you can dodge a wrench.... You can dodge a SAM

[@Icewolf_fgr]

Legends say stroke 8 is still blind

[@huntermitchell761]

What does "blind" even mean in that context?

[@Icewolf_fgr]

@ cant see their wing man

[@Shjankee]

Question, when we are in cockpit view of stroke 3, does it match what we were shown on the actual video? If so that’s pretty dope to get a wider wider view of “what was”

[@Dash99erOfficial]

I tried my best to replicate the way he was controlling the aircraft from the hud footage.

[@Shjankee]

@@Dash99erOfficial Nice man! Appreciate the extra mile and I’m sure others do as well. It’s cool to have a better visual of what’s going on! Hate to ask another question, but I just remember stroke 3 saying he was losing vision at certain points, does that reflect similarly here as well? Sorry to bother, just remember after watching again 😅

[@SirFloofy001]

Thats one hell of a pilot.

[@kiwipizza.]

great how this re enactment managed to get the accuracy of no or little ecm

[@jaydeister9305]

I went to that war.

[@Clone_of_Darth_Revan]

How was your experience?

[@jaydeister9305]

@@Clone_of_Darth_Revan i was with a maintenance unit in LBE (log base echo), repairing radios for 7th Corp various communication battalions. Not glamourous by any measure. In KSA.

[@adamatch9624]

10:26 must have been much worse irl or he would have probably stayed with it and get some more distance but I could be wrong

[@Benjijart]

9:01 Love his reaction, homie think he on a roller coaster

[@thelukesternater]

Dude hit 6.5g... y’all wish ya had coaster like that!

[@zackbrown1865]

He couldnt believe it didnt hit him there literally flew past his head

[@kregen2275]

I remember when my dad told me about this year's ago, and when i finally saw the cam footage i was lile wow this guy is a bad ass lol

[@smn475]

Imagine the size of the wheelbarrow needed to carry Stroke 3's balls

[@SL4PSH0CK]

never have i had a serious face watching this

[@FastPaull]

Why does the gameplay look like 2008 DCS in 720p?

[@Dash99erOfficial]

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