1981 Gulf of Sidra Incident 2 U.S. F-14s vs 2 Libyan SU-22s | DCS World Reeinactment

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@Dash99erOfficial
@Dash99erOfficial 4 жыл бұрын
"Fitter" is the NATO Reporting name for Su-22.
@tpfaff
@tpfaff 4 жыл бұрын
Hello would you mind if the wikipedia page for this incident was updated with a screen grab from this video? I cant do it without your explicit permission because it requires it be released under creative commons.
@trumanhw
@trumanhw 3 жыл бұрын
Video viewed by ~210 Egyptians, Arabs + Liberals (all equally likely to hate the US) Weren't they 'communicating' in a -4 G dive w the as yet unobserved MiG-28..?
@2ZZGE100
@2ZZGE100 2 жыл бұрын
Larry 'Music' Muzynski said he pulled 10.4G in the dogfight against the SU-22. It was actually a very fast dogfight taking place close to supersonic speeds. When he landed back, they saw the G-meter pegged at 10+ G and the maintainers were so happy about the two SU-22 being shot down, they did not write him up. They celebrated it with 'Music' instead. (Source: Tomcat Fury).
@williamfender661
@williamfender661 4 жыл бұрын
I remember this incident like it was yesterday. I was on the flight deck that day when it was announced that 2 Libyan migs had been shot down for firing upon our aircraft first. I was assigned to VA-82 Marauders Aviation Ordnanceman. I remember the tomcats missing 2 sidewinder missiles. My first Med cruise so it was a eye opener.
@scotth985
@scotth985 4 жыл бұрын
I was an 11 year old in Disney World. I'm not being a smartass or disrespectful but I do remember it like it was yesterday. I think I was in Alabama when I heard it over the radio. Thanks for your service.
@williamfender661
@williamfender661 4 жыл бұрын
@@scotth985 thank you sir. Strange how 2 different people can remember the same incident of a moment in time from completely 2 different parts of the world.
@scotth985
@scotth985 4 жыл бұрын
@@williamfender661 Isn't it though. Too cool. I'm 51 now and the memory is vivid. What's really cool is being able to scribble what I wrote above and have a guy on the deck of the aircraft carrier respond. We live in a new world. It's a good time to be alive despite what anyone else says. Appreciate your response.
@charlesellsworth6458
@charlesellsworth6458 3 жыл бұрын
so do I buddy. I was in the IO on the USS Ranger. After that incedent our deployment went from 63 days to over 100. Glad you guys handed their asses to them!!!
@williamfender661
@williamfender661 3 жыл бұрын
@@charlesellsworth6458 you are right something I'll remember for the rest of my life. Strange times then and stranger times now. Take care my friend.
@ProspectorTripp
@ProspectorTripp 3 жыл бұрын
Nicely done! I was aboard the USS Texas CGN-39. We were part of the USS Nimitz carrier battle group as carrier escort. I was in CIC (combat information center) on GCC1 (gun control console 1) when this incident occurred. The part of the story not mentioned but was hair raising is.. a Russian Kashin Class Destroyer was very near by monitoring our two battle groups. I was zoomed out on that Russian Destroyer and as soon as those SU22 splashed, the missile bays popped and I reported Missiles On The Rail! CPT Andres ran down from the bridge and slammed the keys into the Harpoon missile console. Within seconds it was reported the USS Texas, Arkansas, Pebble and Mississippi all assigned Harpoons to this Destroyer! Being a FTG and in CIC for every and anything.. this really was as close as it gets to a really bad moment in history. Slowly over the next few hours the Kashin wiggle off without incident escalation. Latter on that day I heard that someone Shined the Kashin with missile frequency pretty much as the dog fight was taking place. Thus the response from the Russian Destroyer. This would have been a great tragedy was it not for many many cool heads. The Rest Of The Story! Wonderful work! Thanks so much! FTG1 Tripp USS Texas CGN-39 1980-84 ✌️PT
@SaadAlHezaey
@SaadAlHezaey 2 жыл бұрын
Libyan regime claims that the 6fleet admiral announced on the 20th of August that F14 crashed due to a technical failure, do you recall such thing
@ProspectorTripp
@ProspectorTripp 2 жыл бұрын
@@SaadAlHezaey I do not remember that. I do remember that we lost an aircraft on this cruise. I was on duty and was watching flight ops on the Nimitz from GCC2 with my Remote Optical Sight. As I was watching an aircraft suddenly crashed into the water just off the ship only a few feet .. my heart sunk, knowing that everyone on that aircraft is gone. About two seconds later the entire battle group went to General Quarters and conducted the search which resulted in only finding insulation floating on the water around the crash site. I couldn’t remember much about it so I looked it up just now. This is what I found: “November 17, An S-3A, assigned to Anti-Submarine Squadron (VS) 24, crashed into the water just aft of Nimitz, about 70 miles northwest of Sicily. CO Cmdr. Phillip L. Reed, Lt. Douglas C. Deem, Lt. j.g. Carey A. Arthur and AW3 Charles Wade were killed.” ✌️PT
@stevendegain9225
@stevendegain9225 Жыл бұрын
Me Too was also on Nimitz may 26th 1981 worse night of my life 14 dead 40 injured when plane crashed on deck with to much cough meds in his system they try to blame the Crew and blame it on us for THC in our system you welcome why we have piss test today
@krackenmaster1191
@krackenmaster1191 4 жыл бұрын
*Shoots both of them down* Carrier: You are cleared to defend yourself 102: Uhhhh, 2 are shot down.
@heyyolistenwhatisayo
@heyyolistenwhatisayo 4 жыл бұрын
LOL basically
@danielquinones5493
@danielquinones5493 4 жыл бұрын
hey 102 the101 is in PalmSprings
@peternystrom921
@peternystrom921 4 жыл бұрын
@@danielquinones5493 No, didnt they say they where clear to defend themself past the boat(Carrier) etc Not as clear to defend themself from the start?
@superchickenmilk
@superchickenmilk 4 жыл бұрын
Thats exactly what happened...was looking for this comment
@johnjacobs1625
@johnjacobs1625 4 жыл бұрын
Double Tap..........Splash, splash...
@dronecounty6516
@dronecounty6516 4 жыл бұрын
This is a pretty cool video you've put together here. I was stationed aboard the Nimitz as an AM2(AW) assigned to VF41 at the time that this incident took place and your description of the sequence of events is just about spot on. Nice job.
@SaadAlHezaey
@SaadAlHezaey 2 жыл бұрын
Libyan regime claims that the 6fleet admiral announced on the 20th of August that F14 crashed due to a technical failure, do you recall such thing
@Subgunman
@Subgunman 4 жыл бұрын
And that's how the Libyan navy adopted glass bottom boats...... To keep an eye on their Air Force.
@VenturiLife
@VenturiLife 4 жыл бұрын
Libyan Search-and-Rescue, the real MVP here...
@Will3PK
@Will3PK 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, this must have been a LOT of work! Thank you for putting in the effort, it really pays off - I was hooked to my screen like I had seen a plane before!
@davidnavarro4821
@davidnavarro4821 2 жыл бұрын
Your recreation of the dogfight is pretty spot on. It’s nice to see you put a face and a name on the libyan pilots.
@barrybrown2278
@barrybrown2278 4 жыл бұрын
Goose bumps, gives me cold chills. Thank you very much, splash bogey 2 was 20 seconds before you are cleared to defend yourself. GREAT POST!! 🇱🇷🇱🇷👍
@slehar
@slehar 4 жыл бұрын
History at its finest! I feel like I was there to see it all! Thank you!
@RDrizzleFoShizzle
@RDrizzleFoShizzle 5 жыл бұрын
These Tomcat pilots were much calmer than the guys in 1989. Maybe "Hank", "DJ", "Music" and "Amos " didn't expect to be fired upon. Probably the Tomcat Drivers in 1989 have been sensitized to that incident. Also interesting tot see that Brevity Code was not that much applied back in 1981.
@Tank50us
@Tank50us 4 жыл бұрын
​@The Doge-Emperor of Dogekind I mean, one has to wonder what was going through that guys mind at the time as to why he thought it was a good idea to fire on a clearly superior plane (the Tomcat is better than a Fitter in every way except cost), but for one guy, we know what the last thing going through his mind was.... a fish nibbling on what's left.
@MrLordwrecker
@MrLordwrecker 4 жыл бұрын
They were probably calmer because he was thinking "did her just shoot at me from that tin can?".
@higg13001
@higg13001 4 жыл бұрын
@@Tank50us Don't know what the FIRST thing going through that guys mind before firing. The SECOND thing going through his mind was an AIM-9 Sidewinder.
@Tank50us
@Tank50us 4 жыл бұрын
@@higg13001 that as a North Vietnamese pilot that had an AIM-9 enter his cockpit and explode in his lap.
@USB740
@USB740 4 жыл бұрын
They likely also heard about F-14's getting shot down by Mig-23s in the 1980s Iran-Iraq war.
@jimmyzualtea5004
@jimmyzualtea5004 4 жыл бұрын
F-14 is the most beautiful fighter Aircraft for me..
@ShizukuSeiji
@ShizukuSeiji 3 жыл бұрын
After the Spitfire of course.
@chinedou1
@chinedou1 3 жыл бұрын
@@ShizukuSeiji just behind the Rafale.
@anandnairkollam
@anandnairkollam 3 жыл бұрын
Same here!
@JohnDoe-pm3vt
@JohnDoe-pm3vt 7 ай бұрын
l39
@jamesstum9885
@jamesstum9885 5 жыл бұрын
They said the Forestall was the other carrier. It was the Eisenhower, I was there aboard he Nimitz.
@Dash99erOfficial
@Dash99erOfficial 5 жыл бұрын
It was? Well jeez.
@dblgonzo
@dblgonzo 4 жыл бұрын
@@Dash99erOfficial I was in VF143 on the IKE the Nimitz relieved us in the med. We were flying all the time beyond the line of death. Several times they sent planes up. As soon as our F14's locked them up on radar they would head home.
@johnjacobs1625
@johnjacobs1625 4 жыл бұрын
@@dblgonzo Cool, The puking dawgs were bad azz. I was a Ghostrider from 75 to 79. AE3 Oh and my dad worked for Ike in WW2. Dad was Sgt of the guard at the Berlin HQ. He also stayed with Ike when they returned to England.
@MrGhendri
@MrGhendri 4 жыл бұрын
James Stum i was there and I was aboard the FID. I will never forget it because I was due to get out In January.
@Emophiliac2
@Emophiliac2 4 жыл бұрын
My brother was on the Forrestal at the time in 1981. Looking at the USS Forrestal 1981 Cruise book, it talks about the Nimitz relieving the Forrestal in the Med, and that the shootdown occurred during a joint operation before the Forrestal left.
@nickomatick8394
@nickomatick8394 2 жыл бұрын
My uncle was on the USS Nimitz and also was in the Black Aces. He might have worked on those Tomcats. Im pretty sure he was on the Nimitz during the incident. So cool to think that maybe he had a part in this.
@samb8996
@samb8996 4 жыл бұрын
Really well presented - excellent graphics and detailed information
@walterhayes3104
@walterhayes3104 4 жыл бұрын
A brother who fought with me in Desert Storm 1991 was plane cpt.for the Intruder on this mission 1981, I was on the DMZ at this time in Korea.
@kaptainkaos1202
@kaptainkaos1202 3 жыл бұрын
Lt Venlet was later an Admiral at my base Patuxent River, MD. Great guy.
@BluePhantom007-z7j
@BluePhantom007-z7j 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sorting the facts out and creating these videos.
@Kaito74u
@Kaito74u 4 жыл бұрын
Talk about a last second recovery on that flat-spin, jeez! Good job! major pucker factor on the altitude though.
@dustinkosman6615
@dustinkosman6615 4 жыл бұрын
Finally someone who recreated this incident. I was hoping for an animation of this incident so I have a clear picture of what happened.
@AaaBbb-ff1pn
@AaaBbb-ff1pn 4 жыл бұрын
There is a schema at the end of the video. Nothing spectacular as infamous Cunningham vs. Toon. The f14 simply reverse a lot tighter than the fighter-bomber su22 and fox2'em
@SuiLagadema
@SuiLagadema 2 жыл бұрын
Niiice recovery. The induced drag, use of air brakes, flaps. I was saying the whole time "come on! stick to the spin and dump that nose!". You sir, had me on the edge of my seat during the spin.
@jorgemontero4454
@jorgemontero4454 3 жыл бұрын
That is amazing thank you so much for the video, also the blooper is what happened to maverick haha
@JordanRidener
@JordanRidener 5 жыл бұрын
These are pretty interesting, hope to see more
@AviationPlus
@AviationPlus 5 жыл бұрын
This was very well done thanks for sharing! Keep this up and you will have more subscribers.
@zonacrs
@zonacrs 4 жыл бұрын
You do great work. I was on West Pac when this happened. Cubi Point beach detachment. VA 147 Argonauts.There were Libyan students studying in Olongapo, made for some interesting moments.
@sebastien3351
@sebastien3351 2 жыл бұрын
This is a great video of this incident, thank you very much!
@Dash99erOfficial
@Dash99erOfficial 2 жыл бұрын
You're welcome Sebastien.
@hightide9513
@hightide9513 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. It looks like the Libyans couldn’t resist the bait.
@Kdschaak
@Kdschaak 4 жыл бұрын
That was really a fantastic! Thank you.
@avramnovorra
@avramnovorra 4 жыл бұрын
Nice reenactment! It always helps me understand a situation better when there's actual movement across the screen instead of just following a diagram so cheers mate! Also, I'm no aviator, but I'm guessing the blooper was a flat spin on the F-14's part?? 😉
@jjguerra
@jjguerra 4 жыл бұрын
Well done, dude!! Great research and production. BZ
@zcrewser
@zcrewser 4 жыл бұрын
DJ Venlet went on to become a 3-star Admiral - great American!
@pontiacGXPfan
@pontiacGXPfan 4 жыл бұрын
I think his other callsign was Inlet
@30AndHatingIt
@30AndHatingIt 4 жыл бұрын
2:28...... is that a battleship ahead of the carrier? Looks like the profile of one of the reactivated Iowas, but wasn't this a little earlier than that?
@Dash99erOfficial
@Dash99erOfficial 4 жыл бұрын
Yes sir. i didn't want a bunch of Oliver Hazard Perry frigates in that shot so I just put that there.
@30AndHatingIt
@30AndHatingIt 4 жыл бұрын
@@Dash99erOfficial Badass. Which one, Mo?
@RyshusMojo1
@RyshusMojo1 4 жыл бұрын
Pulling out of the flat spin in the end was epic.
@JGCSRT
@JGCSRT 4 жыл бұрын
I can only hope that communications have improved since then. They seemed to spend half the video trying to figure out what the other had said.
@briantaylor144
@briantaylor144 4 жыл бұрын
@Puckman637 But they weren't. The radio transcript and comms show requests to repeat..
@gblan
@gblan 4 жыл бұрын
Build am amazing aircraft like the F-14 but they can’t make a radio you can understand.
@alexlevine2522
@alexlevine2522 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. The level of these pilots' brains, training, and nerves is breathtaking. Their post-military careers as commercial airline pilots must be a great relief. But as we watch these "triumphal" videos let us not forget the talent and commitment of the Libyan pilots, not evil men, who were defending their country and doing their jobs. A great quote from a European chronicler of the Crusades, describing the defenders of Muslim-held stronghold: "...the flower of infidel chivalry was in their town." War is hell, of course, but a good soldier respects his opponents.
@croma81
@croma81 5 жыл бұрын
Subbed! Hope u'll keep making incident videos! Well done!
@notthatdonald1385
@notthatdonald1385 4 жыл бұрын
@@Moonbeamblue F-117 shoot down in Yugoslavia? The day "stealth" proved if you put enough triple A up there you'll hit something.
@thequickbrownfox7289
@thequickbrownfox7289 4 жыл бұрын
I was hoping for one on the 6 day war, specifically the attack between the Israelis and the USS Liberty intel ship.
@williamjordan5554
@williamjordan5554 4 жыл бұрын
This was probably the incident that inspired the dogfight in Top Gun although I think there might have been more. Of course, the bombing of Gaddafi's tent inspired the Libyans to bring down a Pan Am airliner over Scotland.
@rawnukles
@rawnukles 4 жыл бұрын
So it is not known if they were Fitters or Floggers? I loved the save from the flat spin in the end. I thought you were screwed for sure, lol. I woulda swept the wings back and hoped that would move the centre of pressure rear of the CG and helped get the nose down, but I'm not expert on tomcat spins.
@zloy3641
@zloy3641 2 жыл бұрын
Aren’t the Jolly Rogers VF-103 instead of VF-84?
@francor688
@francor688 5 жыл бұрын
Ah I love this. Well done
@dronecounty6516
@dronecounty6516 4 жыл бұрын
And by the way, you have a comment below from someone named James Stum who I'm afraid is mistaken. The other carrier out there with us was the Forestall. At the time that the Gulf of Sidra Incident occurred, I believe the Eisenhower was patrolling the Indian Ocean south of the Arabian Peninsula but I'm not positive about that.
@jackdeth37
@jackdeth37 4 жыл бұрын
If Maverick had watched this before going to Top Gun, Goose would still be alive! LOL! Great video. I love the perspective making it look like you're actually there. 👍🏻
@miked8227
@miked8227 4 жыл бұрын
Home on leave in 1981-82 a friend of mine had told me about this incident or one he described much like it. He was in the navy and told me that things like this happen often without much notice to the media back home.
@u2mister17
@u2mister17 4 жыл бұрын
I liked the flat spin at the end. Very cool.
@schweizerluchs7146
@schweizerluchs7146 5 жыл бұрын
Nicely done👍 hope you get some attention with that!
@erk396ss
@erk396ss 4 жыл бұрын
If you could do some iranian f14's Vs iraqi migs and mirages would be great
@Dash99erOfficial
@Dash99erOfficial 4 жыл бұрын
Hmmm
@MikeBrown-go1pc
@MikeBrown-go1pc 4 жыл бұрын
Iranians were the only ones to score kills with the Phoenix 54 missile. Iraqis really flew the highway to the danger zone. The 70 mile away danger zone.
@erk396ss
@erk396ss 4 жыл бұрын
I've seen some documentaries on the iran and Iraq war. It's a shame that history channel didn't include those stories in "Dog fights" series. My hats off to the pilots who flew the Persian Cats.
@MikeBrown-go1pc
@MikeBrown-go1pc 4 жыл бұрын
@Erik Pantoja Well they would have had to get the Iranian pilots to tell the stories on the show and it would be harder to do that because Iranians are bad....we are told.... but Saudi Arabians are good..we are told. Some stories out of that war say that one AIM- 54 Phoenix missile took out two Iraqi aircraft flying in close formation. Not just once, but several times. One story says they shot the AIM-54 Phoenix at a 4 group and it took out 3 and damaged the 4th. I don't think the missiles we have now have the range and payload of the AIM-54 Phoenix.
@erk396ss
@erk396ss 4 жыл бұрын
@@MikeBrown-go1pc I've herd of those stories. In the documentary I watched its incredible what both sides were playing cat and mouse games. Anouther great dog fights computer sequence would be to see the Falklands conflict. That's when the British scored 1st blood for the harrier.
@Chuckyeager1942
@Chuckyeager1942 4 жыл бұрын
Black Aces! That was my squadron. Best representation. I enjoyed that.
@deepalperera4592
@deepalperera4592 4 жыл бұрын
Pilot or RIO? (I'm not a navy guy just asking)
@deepalperera4592
@deepalperera4592 4 жыл бұрын
@John Irwin Oh I see
@borisbold3477
@borisbold3477 4 жыл бұрын
This account makes it appear that the S-3 Viking was playing bait to draw out the Libyans for a return match. It looks like they were outmatched this time.
@thequickbrownfox7289
@thequickbrownfox7289 4 жыл бұрын
You may well be right. My thought is the S-3 was collecting SIGINT (Signals Intelligence), trying to get the Libyans to turn on their electronic defensive measures and recording their responses to analyze. If they responded aggressively then that was just a bonus.
@stevephlyer
@stevephlyer 4 жыл бұрын
That’s exactly what happened. But that’s fine.
@waynemccuen8213
@waynemccuen8213 4 жыл бұрын
Very interesting and well done, thx.
@MrPADDYOT
@MrPADDYOT 4 жыл бұрын
Just an FYI on the subtitles. "Gerbled" and "Garbled" are two different words with two VERY different connotations. :-D
@rainypath96
@rainypath96 3 жыл бұрын
so what was diamond cutter 702 doing in the first place if it had no intention of entering libyan airspace? what was the point of flying that race track pattern?
@25JoeBiden
@25JoeBiden Жыл бұрын
CAP
@25JoeBiden
@25JoeBiden Жыл бұрын
Combat air patrol to protect the carrier group. It's job in otherwords
@raymondchapman5990
@raymondchapman5990 4 жыл бұрын
It's too bad the F-14 Tomcat that was Fast Eagle 107 in this incident was destroyed in 1994 when that female pilot crashed it trying to land it on a carrier. She had no business flying a fighter jet, she had already had a bunch of incidents and was on probation. This was the governments fault though, they were pressuring the military to get a female pilot in the air etc.
@chrisg5219
@chrisg5219 4 жыл бұрын
Hey idk if you make these videos anymore but they're really good and you should make some more!
@pigeontoebeekeeping7621
@pigeontoebeekeeping7621 4 жыл бұрын
Great Vids! I am quite versed in most military airplanes but somehow not he S-3. Seems a lot like EA-6B but different purpose. Keep it up!
@uglyfrog7263
@uglyfrog7263 4 жыл бұрын
Outstanding videos, loved them all.
@hilarybenoit2926
@hilarybenoit2926 4 жыл бұрын
It was actually the Eisenhower aircraft carrier that was there. My uncle was in the pacific doing drills in a F-14 but had a friend on the Eisenhower on standby in his own F-14 that day.
@kennethellis2666
@kennethellis2666 4 жыл бұрын
IKE was in homeport being prepared for its August cruise. It was Nimitz.
@joshuajwars4271
@joshuajwars4271 2 жыл бұрын
The Gulf of Sidra incident is very good since it used 2 Northrop Grumman F4 Phantom 2 fighter jets and 2 Northrop Grumman F14 Tomcat fighter jets from both Forrestal & Chester Walter Nimitz to attack 5 hostile aircraft for Top Gun movie it called for 1 Enterprise 2 more F14 Tomcat fighter jets to attack 6 hostile aircraft.
@r.g.doolind5804
@r.g.doolind5804 4 жыл бұрын
I was on the USS Sylvania a supply ship at that time. We were alongside the USS Nimitz the day before that. Our Captain announced it over the ships p.a. The cheers of joy could be heard through out the ship!
@ScoutPL
@ScoutPL 4 жыл бұрын
Good point. They made it sound like just a couple carriers out cruising. There had to be a whole bunch of ships out there.
@crimeon1782
@crimeon1782 2 жыл бұрын
Fun facts, the AIM missle that shot down the second fitter initial didn’t lock, and after a few seconds got a lock mid flight, pulled a 45g turn and hit the bogey in the tail, all why the bogey was pulling a 9g turn himself. Just goes to show how advanced these missles became
@SupaMan2122
@SupaMan2122 2 жыл бұрын
Never heard of 80s sidewinder doing that. Near always you have to get tone and it’s heat sinking not “re locking” a target mid flight. Also it’s max overload is 30gs
@dunkilationzzz
@dunkilationzzz 2 жыл бұрын
@@SupaMan2122 No he's right it did happen, I read the first-hand account from Lt 'Music' Muczynski in a book called Debrief: A Complete History of U.S. Aerial Engagements - 1981 to the Present. 'Music' wrote that he thought the missile went stupid before it re-enagaged and pulled that 45g turn. Definitely worth a read if you get the opportunity
@Zoomie932
@Zoomie932 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that. I appreciate the in depth information. I was on duty with the 932nd ACWS Squadron at Rockville Iceland. I was the guy that received the message and made the decryption. We partied for two extra days for that.
@jaydeister9305
@jaydeister9305 4 жыл бұрын
I was an active duty squid back then, but a Pearl Harbor sailor. Battle group Ops was the thing. This was a big testosterone moment for the Navy.
@thezorba1
@thezorba1 3 жыл бұрын
Whats the music at the end?
@Dash99erOfficial
@Dash99erOfficial 3 жыл бұрын
Pacific Storm - Meteor
@lnomolas3427
@lnomolas3427 4 жыл бұрын
I was deployed, flying P-3's in the Mediterranean and flew patrols in the Gulf of Sidra during that time frame.
@mjl1966y
@mjl1966y 4 жыл бұрын
Did they even have subs?
@lnomolas3427
@lnomolas3427 4 жыл бұрын
@@mjl1966y No, but the Soviets had a number of subs in the Med during that period.
@agostonbazmajer1100
@agostonbazmajer1100 4 жыл бұрын
Bit of a random question, but what was the callsign of the Forrestal that the Marshall controller used?
@MaidenUtah1
@MaidenUtah1 4 жыл бұрын
I’m glad we won that encounter. However, I have lots of respect for those Lybian pilots. No way would I strap myself into some Soviet built death trap only to tangle with two Tom Cats.
@wms1650
@wms1650 4 жыл бұрын
@@Cjephunneh The United States was taunting Gaddafi. Gaddafi had extended his boundaries and stated he would defend these new boundaries. Reagan put our Navy in international waters and planes in international air. Gaddafi attempted to defend his new boarders. After this incident...... Gaddafi quieted down. We were aggressive when we bombed Gaddafi's house.
@Ali_Alshahibi
@Ali_Alshahibi 4 жыл бұрын
@trublu97 The Libyans were defending their land despite the difference in armament and strength, and this is what encouraged the Americans to attack !!! Perhaps if that was off the coast of China or Russia, America would not even dare to think about flying near it. It is arrogance and arrogance
@Ali_Alshahibi
@Ali_Alshahibi 4 жыл бұрын
@trublu97 Forget this nonsense. You are only courageous about small countries. As for the great countries, your calculations with them differ. Just two days ago, Russian Sukhoi planes were harassing a US spy plane in the eastern Mediterranean, and we did not see any reaction or confrontation, as you did with the Libyans. You were satisfied with only resentment and anxiety.
@Ali_Alshahibi
@Ali_Alshahibi 4 жыл бұрын
Your report also contains many falsehoods. Pilot Belkacem Emsik Al-Zintani is still alive. Also, Emsik, before his plane was hit, managed to shoot down the American F-14 and killed its commander Henry Clement !!! Ask your friends about Henry Clement, where is he now?
@MrAlepedroza
@MrAlepedroza 4 жыл бұрын
@@Cjephunneh ?? Fascist euphoria? Get your facts straight: That was not their coastline. They were several tens of miles beyond what international law defined as legitimate national waters for any country. Gaddaffi thought he could get away by claiming more waters he was legally entitled to. He got what he deserved. The only fascist here was Gaddaffi. Stop deffending his actions; I know its fashionable and edgy to blame the US for the world's evils, doesnt make you any more intelligent nor accurate.
@chiefbobdavis99
@chiefbobdavis99 3 жыл бұрын
I was in ‘A’ school in Millington when this happened. A week later the PX was selling Tshirts that had an outline of a Tomcat and saying Navy-2 Libya-0 A great timers be in the Navy!!
@MrPerry61
@MrPerry61 4 жыл бұрын
Is there a retelling of the F111 attack on Libya in 86? I was at the RAF base that sent the EF111 Ravens. the F111 were from another RAF base
@Robert-ff9wf
@Robert-ff9wf 4 жыл бұрын
Were they pipe fitters?
@harrysach5745
@harrysach5745 4 жыл бұрын
Can the F-14 not sweep the wings back and nose down to get out of a spin and re-light the engines? I'm not a pilot and know next to nothing about flying, but that I guess would be my response.
@richthofen3
@richthofen3 4 жыл бұрын
Wasn’t they were 23s.su-22 were meant for ground attack role
@Rick-or2kq
@Rick-or2kq 4 жыл бұрын
Well they weren't Mig-29's with Russian pilots,because the Russian pilots would have just flown by and waved, they would have never engaged, disciplined, well trained.
@markd6634
@markd6634 4 жыл бұрын
Are Fitters supposed to be fighters or am i missing something here?
@Dash99erOfficial
@Dash99erOfficial 4 жыл бұрын
Fitter is the NATO name for the SU-22
@Dugout97
@Dugout97 5 жыл бұрын
Two Libyans down voted this video.
@CallsignJoNay
@CallsignJoNay 4 жыл бұрын
I take it you don't have split throttles?
@dariuszmatt76
@dariuszmatt76 4 жыл бұрын
Why didn't you levelled down the external views engine noise from DCS? The radio chatter is far more important
@Dash99erOfficial
@Dash99erOfficial 4 жыл бұрын
I was actually doing that. I guess I had my computer turned down and the simulator turned all the way up. Completely my fault.
@4mula353
@4mula353 4 жыл бұрын
You trying to kill Goose with that flat spin ?
@craigsmith8217
@craigsmith8217 4 жыл бұрын
Two days later, one of the aircraft carriers docked in Italy. Kids on the dock were selling T-shirts that read: "US -2, Qaddafi - 0."
@peterk8909
@peterk8909 4 жыл бұрын
Now THAT'S funny.
@deepalperera4592
@deepalperera4592 4 жыл бұрын
Running it in nice I see
@pgtmr2713
@pgtmr2713 4 жыл бұрын
Dammit! Now I have to look up minuets.
@pgtmr2713
@pgtmr2713 4 жыл бұрын
minuet NOUN a slow, stately ballroom dance for two in triple time, popular especially in the 18th century. VERB dance a minuet.
@deepalperera4592
@deepalperera4592 4 жыл бұрын
@@pgtmr2713 :/ :D
@greggalemusic
@greggalemusic 4 жыл бұрын
How did you get the SU-17 to engage you as an air target? I can only select "ground attack".
@Dash99erOfficial
@Dash99erOfficial 4 жыл бұрын
I think I used "Attack Unit" by picking the unit and AA weapon. Probably also restrict A/G attack and A/A missile attack ranges.
@NeutronRob
@NeutronRob 4 жыл бұрын
Nice recovery out of the flat spin!
@damienmaynard8892
@damienmaynard8892 4 жыл бұрын
ES-3 rather than a regular Viking?
@gameaddict2744
@gameaddict2744 4 жыл бұрын
Almost feel bad for those Libyan pilots. They had to know when they suited up to engage what was an obvious trap that they were outmatched in every imaginable way.
@johnjacobs1625
@johnjacobs1625 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah this was for real and not a Game........... They know what they were getting into.
@TheGranicd
@TheGranicd 4 жыл бұрын
Su22 is not a fighter. Its for ground attack. More like A4.
@USB740
@USB740 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheGranicd Actually like the F-105.
@SupaMan2122
@SupaMan2122 2 жыл бұрын
They fired first, don’t feel bad for em
@nickgullusci7829
@nickgullusci7829 2 жыл бұрын
My dad was on the Forrestal as part of the Silver Eagles. He couldn't believe the Libyans did this, knowing they wouldn't survive.
@MotoroidARFC
@MotoroidARFC 4 жыл бұрын
How did you get into that flat spin?
@unusualbydefault
@unusualbydefault 4 жыл бұрын
too much AOA, low airspeed and uncoordinated turn
@diegoruiz7600
@diegoruiz7600 3 жыл бұрын
This isn't like war thunder at all 😭 "do you want me to shoot my guy down now? " 😭😭😭
@edwardwagner2871
@edwardwagner2871 4 жыл бұрын
I was there i was with va 82 abord the nimitz in hangar bay 3 with my a7e 310 when the annoucement came over the 1mc morale was boosted that day i still remember it as a highlite in my naval aviation career amh 3 ed wagner
@brunodavidferreira5781
@brunodavidferreira5781 4 жыл бұрын
And the flat spin att the end...
@brunodavidferreira5781
@brunodavidferreira5781 4 жыл бұрын
@TurnTimeTable and rudder to other side of the flat spin,shore
@HORNET012
@HORNET012 4 жыл бұрын
this was not the audio i heard
@davidhorwath8212
@davidhorwath8212 4 жыл бұрын
Black aces why is the 51 in a spade?
@oldsoul9932
@oldsoul9932 4 жыл бұрын
Wings in with the sonic boom at 9:35 was a nice touch.
@daffidavit
@daffidavit 4 жыл бұрын
I believe CDR. David Fravor was the "Black Aces" skipper of the entire squadron of FA-18s back in 2004.
@pontiacGXPfan
@pontiacGXPfan 4 жыл бұрын
He was. His XO at that time, Dell "Snapper" Bull is a Admiral now
@notthatdonald1385
@notthatdonald1385 4 жыл бұрын
No "puking dogs"?
@pontiacGXPfan
@pontiacGXPfan 4 жыл бұрын
@@notthatdonald1385 idk. He's retired now
@3HOCFRESKO
@3HOCFRESKO 4 жыл бұрын
good presentation and content!!
@asagood8955
@asagood8955 2 жыл бұрын
Well , what is really happen that also libyan su 22 shutdown f14 and yet this video doesn't show that , i wonder why !?
@kenboatright9244
@kenboatright9244 4 жыл бұрын
What is a fitter?
@Dash99erOfficial
@Dash99erOfficial 4 жыл бұрын
Fitter is the NATO Reporting name for Su-22.
@udmbfckx2916
@udmbfckx2916 4 жыл бұрын
Zintani and Jantari Were hunted down in a US SAFARI and so was, years later, al-Baghdadi proving there is no escape from the US Military.
@Ali_Alshahibi
@Ali_Alshahibi 4 жыл бұрын
They lied to you by Kassem Emsik Zintani, who is still alive today
@danielcarvalho-hm2ov
@danielcarvalho-hm2ov 3 жыл бұрын
congratulations very good muito bom!!!!
@robertnorris5669
@robertnorris5669 4 жыл бұрын
Blooper ? Maybe inst. on recov. flat spin ?
@clariidfisherman3702
@clariidfisherman3702 4 жыл бұрын
I would love if you could narrate this. Otherwise, good job!
@tonykennedy8483
@tonykennedy8483 4 жыл бұрын
Fast Eagle 107 was the plane that Kara Hultgreen would 13 years later die in
@esotericyetti327
@esotericyetti327 4 жыл бұрын
These reenactments are so good I thay for a few seconds, I thought the military had figured out a way to film these events.
@reedscarce4192
@reedscarce4192 4 жыл бұрын
Dig the fences on the Soviet aircraft. After a couple of generations you'd think they would have a better solution. - And props to the sim who salvaged the ac from the flat spin.
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