Dassault Rafale vs Eurofighter Typhoon: A 2025 Technology Comparison

[@moRaaOTAKU]

France was right... Europe needs their own defense industry

[@YourBonesInMyDresser]

Racist sexist homophobic propaganda.

[@ianworley8169]

Obviously why France withdrew from the Euro Fighter programme because they wanted to be in charge, rather than work collaboratively.

[@Acres9]

@@ianworley8169 You can't work collaboratively with germany, sadly they will try to scam you at some point, it's now obvious for everyone in France.

[@didierlemoine6771]

Nuclear and carrier :)@@ianworley8169

[@sekoundiaye3239]

​​@@ianworley8169nope! Absolutly not. It's because the other countrys didn't want a carrier landing capable aircraft, wich was fundamental for France. Get your fact rights.

[@bearcastle]

For the Rafale, it's design to be use as well on aircraft carrier and it's the only Nato fighter jet that can land on an US carrier. Another point, it's made for deep nuclear strike from the beginning for the French nuclear doctrine. As for dog fight, trying to do that at high altitude its suicidal in actual warfare, the rafale is more suited as most dog fight will be at low altitude and need better maneuverability

[@dutchtravelsociety352]

I think that the nato planes like F18 and F35 are also able to land on US carriers. But outside US planes this might be the only plane currently produced by a nato country capable to land on a US carrier.

[@Triggatra4258]

​@Dutch Travel Society OBVIOUSLY the F-18 and F-35 can land on US carriers.... they are US AIRCRAFT!!! DUH 😂😅

[@NATObait]

Along with other aircraft the T 45 Goshawk is the aircraft carrier version of the BAE Hawk and that is fully carrier capable obviously. The AV 8B was used on USMC carriers and Spanish/ Italian carriers are still using them.

[@aleksandartrost772]

​@@Triggatra4258😂

[@aleksandartrost772]

​@@NATObait😮

[@Chima4289]

I like Rafale. Beautiful, very capable multi-role fighter/bomber. Very elegant

[@filemonpuente1766]

👍👌

[@richardhoyau936]

Omnirole

[@RonJeremy514]

@@richardhoyau936 Same shit as multirole, just a marketing terminology.

[@Roger-Hypersonic]

@@RonJeremy514 Not at all, multirole is not as advanced as omnirole, and France has the only omnirole fighter jet in the world ! Now that isn't shit, it is advanced technology- brilliance that other countries are jealous of ! Now you can jealously weep !

[@RonJeremy514]

@@Roger-Hypersonic oh yeah? Then explain how better « omnirole » is because ATE seems to disagree with you lmao

[@daneelolivaw4323]

1:18 The Eurofighter was *not* meant to be a replacement for the Tornado. On the contrary, it was meant to complement UK/Germany/Italy's Tornados A/G performance with A/A capabilities. (And on the other side, France had a very capable A/A platform in the Mirage 2000 and wanted more A/G.) 2:15 Other commentators have already noted that your Rafale export list is seriously outdated. 3:00 These cost figures are fanciful at best (read: bullshit). The Eurofighter is definitely not 25% cheaper than the Rafale. RUSI's Justin Bronk estimates the Rafale to be slightly cheaper than the Eurofighter in real-world terms. 3:45 Bullshit again. Both Rafale and Eurofighter are so-called tailless deltas, in that the pitch control surfaces are integrated in the trailing edge of the wing and not in separate control surfaces. In no way were either of those designed without a vertical plane beyond the earliest concept stages (I do believe one of the Dassault ACX models had no vertical plane... but some had two). 6:00 Should be noted that SCALP and Storm Shadow are the same weapon. 7:50 Both EJ2000 and M88 are afterburning turbofans. And the Rafale's service ceiling is definitely higher than 42kft. 8:25 Both Rafale and EF *can* have AESA radars, with similar capabilities. It should be noted that all Rafales can be brought up to the latest standard with RBE2, while not all EF tranches can be equipped with Captor-E. 8:30 EF and Rafale come from the same development programme, that EF's first flight happened later (due to longer development) doesn't make it a newer aircraft, especially since both have been continuously developped in the past 30 years. 8:35 "Rafale is more agile"? Only at lower altitudes, not a general truth. 9:00 EF burns *a lot* more fuel than Rafale in most flight profiles. Since it doesn't carry more fuel, I am curious how it is a better choice for long-range missions.

[@lucaj8131]

It's as if chatGPT wrote the script...

[@vikassm]

This comment is more interesting than the video 🤣🤣🤣

[@rokritos2670]

​@@lucaj8131I think you're spot on. The script shows all the inconsistencies ChatGPT is known to show. The only thing missing is the usual ChatGPT spiel that the facts provided are accurate as of its training data cut-off date of November 2021 😂. The channel's content producers should be cross checking their facts and not be lazy. Viewers nowadays are tech savy and definitely not naive!

[@greycorbie224]

In any way an excellent comment!

[@loperano1984]

You have written a bible to sell us the Rafale... the Rafale is inferior to the eurofighter several steps behind in everything... how are you going to compare the technological development of 4 or 5 countries with only that of France? So why does France also have a Eurofighter? They should support their industry and have their rafales...

[@thierrybidault5837]

Please update your information: the Rafale has been exported to Egypt, Qatar, AND India, Croatia, Greece, Indonesia, while UAE ordered 80 Rafales. 3 more countries are interested: Serbia, Argentina, Thailand. On the other hand, all "customers" of the Typhoon are only the countries that manufacture it; it gives an idea of which aircraft has the best world reputation among experts. Period!

[@ahmedaraf8188]

France gives political advantage Eurofighter don't. End of discussion

[@kunlunpassagerduvent9498]

@@ahmedaraf8188 Rafale is the Best Omnirole Fighter ever made: "The power of One": Among the high end performances in all roles. It should have been sold much more because US has really given political Advantages and cheating and geopolitics pressures each time in competitions with rafale and Rafale has always finished finalist in purchase competitions everywhere....

[@ahmedaraf8188]

​@@kunlunpassagerduvent9498 Rafale went against F-35 which it can't compete with in any field except dogfight which is the most unlikely thing to happen in modern aerial warfare. It only was sold to countries that couldn't get their hands on F-35. Rafale is a good fighter but simply outclassed by fifth gen fighters.

[@ahmedaraf8188]

@@kunlunpassagerduvent9498 it's also more expensive than F-35

[@pascalf764]

@@ahmedaraf8188 rafale program 40 billions f35 1000,1100,1200,.….... Billions😱

[@TJSaw]

Rafale is an all rounder. It does most things perfectly. From air superiority and agility to stealth and bomber/strike role, it’s adept at operating from land and sea both. An amazing piece of flying metal.

[@terrywainman6050]

How can it be air superiority fighter when its to slow and its service ceiling is rubbish 51,000 ft ish.

[@aymedr1692]

​@@terrywainman6050we are in 2023 not in the cold war why it nees to go has more than mach 2 ??

[@corentinjosse3269]

what do you mean by to slow ? no one can dogfight at mach 2 (to much G but thats one of many example)@@terrywainman6050

[@NATObait]

@@aymedr1692 Mach 1.8 is enough as Meteor goes M 4.5 . F35 is slower ( M 1.6 ) but it detects you first and you see nothing before 50k by which time it is looking for its next target. In Ukraine if you had to take out a S400 site you would want to be in F35 and if it was SU 35 you would want to be in F22 both are top predators .

[@FellaHAILIRA]

I would pick rafael over EF. However I'm not sure about rafale's air superiority and stealth abilities

[@FinsburyPhil]

The major difference between these aircraft isn't a 'top trumps' comparison - it's in their design philosophy. The Rafale was designed primarily for agility, lower altitude performance and strike. The Typhoon was designed primarily for raw power, high altitude performance and air-to-air interception. But the venn diagram of their capabilities is very overlapping - they are both highly capable multi-role aircraft and the more they develop, they closer they become.

[@NATObait]

Rafale was designed with fixed air intakes hence it has height limitations. It also was designed with close coupled canards for low speed deck landings. Eurofighter was designed to give good Transonic agility and more powerful engines to offer better acceleration and has variable intakes to allow height advantage. Hence both designs have compromise built in. It must not be forgotten that Dassault wanted a cheaper option for better export potential.

[@Hot_guy267]

Not fully true. Rafales have not that altitude limitations in real life. Its a lot better. Remember, it is chosen by Indian Air Force for its tremendous performance in the highest battle ground (over the Himalayan mountains) of the world.

[@NATObait]

@@Hot_guy267 Himalayan Mountains are all under 30,000 ft hence way lower than a Boeing 737 climbs to for its local hop, hence flying above that height is nothing special, Rafale can zoom climb above its normal operational ceiling but it can't cruise above that . Eurofighter has variable intakes so it can ' cruise ' at a higher altitude. It maybe a useful or insignificant ability but a difference non the less.

[@NATObait]

The Rafale was designed from the back of an envelope to fulfill key parameters. 1. Both Carrier Capable and Conventional 2. Capable of dropping a Nuclear Bomb 3. Commercially affordable to typical market customers. It sounds simple but that is the basis for the design. The Rafale always had to have low speed ability to land on a Medium sized Carrier, the other two desires could be achieved from the first fundamental position. The Rafale has close coupled canards to maintain lift at carrier landing speeds and less swept wings for the same reason, but that gives it the ability to lift more weapons weight than Eurofighter can .

[@prhodan59]

@@NATObait .everyone forgets that the Rafale still has its big brothers the Mirage 2000. Faster than the Typhoon with the new updates on the Mirage 2000 it remains an excellent interception plane and it is a real interceptor.

[@sameerthakur720]

Traditionally France has been a more reliable supplier than the countries making the Typhoon. A bit of US pressure or even pressure from human rights groups and you may be denied spares for the Typhoon.

[@timphillips9954]

Traditionally Britain has lead the way in aircraft design

[@sameerthakur720]

@@timphillips9954 True, but countries would prefer to buy from someone with an independent foreign policy. Otherwise, US sanctions you and your supply of spares from your supplier(Germany or UK) stops.

[@EnglishScripter]

@@sameerthakur720 France is constantly on fire though in riots.

[@mathieu722]

​@@timphillips9954 The first Western European fighter to exceed Mach 1 : the Super Mystère (France) The first Western European combat aircraft to exceed Mach 2 : Mirage III (France) And also: Mirage G8 02 (a mirage with the same type of wing as the F-14s) made its maiden flight at Istres, on July 13, 1972, piloted by Jean-Marie Saget. For its first anniversary - and its 74th sortie - on July 13, 1973, it achieved the highest speed ever for an aircraft in Western Europe: Mach 2.34 at 42,000 ft. France has lead the way in modern aircraft design and also the oldest, since it was the major air force in WW1, and the first operationnal airforce in the world (The first aviation force in the world was the Aviation Militaire of the French Army formed in 1910, which eventually became l'Armée de l'Air officially around 1934.) And when lot of people know Germany for making the first jet during WW2. Less know that France developped the Ramjet (or "Statoréacteur") in 1913, planes of this time were not even capable to handle it.

[@rickwalker2]

@@mathieu722 It's all a bit of a moot point, as most major players can claim innovation. Britain can claim the jet engine, first production aircraft anywhere in the world with a thrust to weight of greater than 1:1, the first commercial jet airliner in the world to enter service, the first aircraft in the world capable of super cruise, the first VSTOL aircraft in the world, the first allied jet fighter of the Second World War etc etc. The US have their own innovations too, as do others. France has the oldest airforce, Britain has the oldest independent airforce. See what I'm doing here?

[@SW-et6xj]

Typhoon: Air superiority Rafale: Multi-role

[@xenomorphelv4265]

that's why France left the EF2000 project, they wanted something better for multi-tasking and carrier compatible.

[@flyblu80]

Typhoon is interceptor, better engine, rafele is better for radar (however last typhoon Spain and Germany have update with new radar), rafele have better thermal signature ecc, however they are two quite unsuccessful planes due to high maintenance costs. when we talk about the number of aircraft in operation I feel like crying. you want super planes then there is maintenance to be done. Otherwise build them with lower maintenance costs.

[@XR190190]

And yet in all air superiority trainings, the Rafale always won by far against the Typhoon

[@SW-et6xj]

@@XR190190 unlikely Rafale has the advantage in close range dog fighting but not in overall air superiority has the typhoon has a way better air-air loadout

[@xenomorphelv4265]

@@SW-et6xj MICA IR & ER are at least on pair with Asraam and Amraam.

[@didierlemoine6771]

Both r fantastic fighters but Rafale is the best omni-role :)

[@filemonpuente1766]

👍👌

[@algita8]

In dogfight, eurofighter is better

[@NATObait]

@@didierlemoine6771 Omnirole means you can do everything! Reality means you can't land on water like a Catalina flying boat. Basically F18 Super Hornet is more capable as it folds it's wings and has a Growler variant. Both are MULTIROLE.

[@kyendan]

@@algita8a Rafale beat a F22 in dofight

[@TurboMeatWagon]

@@kyendan guns only. thats like mike tyson letting you knock him out with a baseball bat

[@clem_blt]

the rafale can also carry the nuclear weapon, land on an aircraft carrier

[@H.P206]

the french were only in this fighter program because they wanted to steal and copy the research of the other countries

[@windy6363]

These two plane are remarquable showcases of Europe knowledge in advanced warfare tech and aviation , but the Rafale is also the answer to the UE that they'll keep work by themselves, no matter what , no matter when . We keep our weaponry independence (except for the hk 416 ...)

[@Jugement]

We could to a lot more if KMW and Rheinmetal werent so greedy however. Pushing for more than 50% on the MGCS while still developping Leopard on the side, threatning to leave France with no extra exports and less cashback on its own orders after the tech transfer, was pure German greed on full display

[@gilespeche6025]

This hk416 sucks

[@ruckzuck5544]

ja macht das . Schlau ist das nicht .

[@ruckzuck5544]

@@Jugement Na mit euch ist doch nichts anzufangen . Eure Panzer sind so scheiße wie eure Autos

[@VrataVenet]

The Rafale has consistently outdone the Eurofighter in international tender competitions.

[@davidmacdonald1695]

Typhoon easily outperforms Rafale. Only through bribery have they won orders, see recent India deal for evidence. Typhoon is the better aircraft.

[@TheOneAndOnlySame]

It's a better plane in ALL aspects. Lol

[@mitchjames9350]

It’s better in multirole while the Euro Fighter is edges it out in air to air.

[@TheOneAndOnlySame]

@@mitchjames9350 not at all. Don't know where you got this idea

[@NATObait]

The Rafale received an AESA upgrade first and is ITAR free add that to it being 5 - 10% cheaper and the formula is a winner compared to Eurofighter. Other factors like Germany blocking a 48 aircraft sale to Saudi Arabia harmed it's production and reputation. I guarantee France won't allow Germany to block FCAS sales ( it will have a full production ability and restrictions in the small print ) . The Gripen E is not a poor relation and Brazil will be able to reduce production price ever more competitively. So European manufacturers have three offerings each capable and effective, not one!!!

[@edouardmontfort7816]

2:15 "Rafale has also been exported to Egypt and Qatar" and GREECE, and INDIA, and INDONESIA, and CROATIA, and UNITED EMIRATES ! I don't know what the outcome of the video will be but the author already falls short. It's a significant factor to consider that many countries have chosen Rafale over Typhoon - considering France alone has less Geopolitical power than UK, Germany and Spain combined.

[@didierlemoine6771]

and Italy :)

[@edouardmontfort7816]

@@didierlemoine6771 no

[@didierlemoine6771]

@@edouardmontfort7816 yes

[@edouardmontfort7816]

@@didierlemoine6771 thought you meant Rafale was exported to Italy.

[@hervelesage5286]

C'est surtout pour évité itar américain le typhon est équipé de composant américain et que du jour au lendemain ils peuvent êre en rupture de piéce.

[@pierreaugereau9845]

Thanks for this video and this balanced comparison. RAFALE was designed to be a highly versatile fighter for the Air Force AND the navy and as you mentioned it is combat proven. The current F4 standard and the incoming standard F5 make it even better.

[@CamiloSanchez1979]

Did you use chatgpt for the text? It sounds like something written by chatgpt

[@victorsamuel8708]

Rafale is the best and India uses it for its Air Force and now for Rafale M for its aircraft carrier beating F18 Hornet,SAAB and Typhoon

[@NATObait]

Rafale M comes with certain disadvantages; 1. Rafale M won't fit the lifts on both carriers ( it will need a redesign ) 2. It's more expensive to buy and fly. 3.. Can't pass information with P8 subhuters at super fast speeds But it comes with advantages like: 1..ITAR. Free 2. Quick delivery times ( French AF gave away slots ). 3. Proven and reliable

[@davidmacdonald1695]

Typhoon is best aircraft. Saudi and Qatar chose it due to its superiority over Rafale when in competition. India only chose it due to bribery which is currently under investigation.

[@justmrcrow]

​​@@davidmacdonald1695o, you are wrong. Qatar have chosen boths Rafale and Eurofighter, and Saudi tought about buying 72 Rafales. India chose it because unlike the Eurofighter, the Rafale M can land on aircraft carriers. Also, I don't remember the Eurofighter "shooting down" a F-22, unlike the Rafale, in simulations

[@captainobvious8530]

@@NATObait Typhoon is more expensive than rafale

[@NATObait]

@@justmrcrow Qatar bought F15E , Eurofighters and Rafale just in case sanctions or offence was caused! Saudi are pushing for 48 more Eurofighters now that Germany is ready to lift it's sanctions. India had a fly off between Super Hornet and Rafale M but no final choice has been made. Rumours circulate that Rafale can't fit in Indian carrier lifts as it can't fold its wings but Air Force want the Navy to buy them . As for Rafale winning against F22 , join the queue as F15, F16, Eurofighter, F35 and even an A10 Warthog was spotted with a silhouette of a F22 painted on the nose. Basically it happens in dissimilar training. Before you say " Rafale is the only Omnirole Fighter " F18 Super Hornet is more capable as it comes in a 2 seat Growler version and can fold its wings with missiles attached.

[@nunchucknads3644]

Rafale: Designed for the navy and is able to land on carriers. Designed to carry strategic nuke missiles (ASMP). Proven combat experience in Afghanistan, Libya and Syria. True multi role fighter designed for air superiority and ground attack. No comparison.

[@ogamiitto8627]

"The Rafale has been exported to Egypt and Qatar" and India, United Arab Emirates, Greece, Croatia, Indonesia, with serious prospects such as Kazakstan, Uzbekistan, Serbia, Irak, Columbia... Between 2015 and 2021, 156 Rafale were sold abroad, vs 0 Eurofighter.

[@oskng]

Srbija nikada nece kupiti rafal, zato sto je srbija genocidna drzava koja podrzava rusiju.

[@chrissoubibi]

Well, Rafale is more manoeuvrable, can land on a carrier, can transport and fire nuclear weapons, has better radar, can carry more weapons and was always ranked ahead of the Typhoon in international events or evaluations. It's pretty obvious who's the winner here. PS : the Rafale's exportations are twice the Typhoon's.

[@orno6621]

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[@VoltaireVoltaire-zq4zh]

The Rafale designation pod is now the Talios, a largely upgraded equipment. Typhoons use Meteor and IRIS-T missiles beside US-made missiles. Prices should not be compared because they can vary widely. Overall, Typhoons are better air superiority aircrafts, that's what they were designed for initially. Rafale is better at air to ground missions, particularly the two-seater version. But both are very competent multirole and can do both air to air and air to ground missions. Where Rafale has an edge is in overall maintenance and availability; this is a trademark of Dassault aircrafts and this has been particularly optimised with the Rafale; Eurofighter was developed by several companies and countries, so it is more complicated (and more costly) to maintain. An additional advantage for the Rafale is that it will be continuously upgraded for at least the next 30 years, so countries using it are sure to have their planes maintained and upgraded if they wish so. The future of the Eurofighter is not so clear.

[@OutlawsDead]

If Typhoon was a better air to air fighter then Rafale would not beat in every competitions or training...

[@VoltaireVoltaire-zq4zh]

@@OutlawsDead Competitions include many criteria !

[@emiliopicma7124]

Y creo olvidaron mencionar la capacidad del captor E de guerra electrónica o jamming de radares enemigos, también olvidan el sistema pretorian das y en la comparación no mencionan todas las armas que puede usar, pero eso ya lo aclara usted así como que son aviones con propósitos diferentes. En cuanto al futuro de los eurofighter con la evolución LTE parece que esta aseguradas las líneas de producción y evolución para la vida útil.

[@aimgorge]

Rafale has superior radar, superior range, superior stealth and superior EW than Eurofighter. How can you conclude Eurofighter is a better air superiority aircraft? 🤔

[@VoltaireVoltaire-zq4zh]

@@aimgorge Regarding radar, the answer is a bit more complex. Right now, only one third of the French Rafale are equipped with the AESA radar. Export variants of the Eurofighter have the first version of the captor E AESA radar, and new versions are in development for Germany/Spain and the UK. stealth are roughly equivalent in combat configuration (planes don't usually fly clean...). The Eurofighter edge in air superiority is linked to its better speed at high altitude (hence it can launch missiles with a faster start, and thus a better killing range) and superior air to air load-out. It is important to compare equivalent version too, but if you do so, because the Eurofighter was conceived for that role, it probably still is a better air superiority fighter, but not by much I agree.

[@arno222444]

I think the 2 are complementary I am french and I like fact that our allies have a good aircraft like the eurofighter.

[@frankgunner8967]

Agree working side by side protecting Europe is the aim i think they'll complement each other plus us Brits have brought a load of different F-35 variants for that extra protection. : )

[@arno222444]

@@frankgunner8967 nah mate the f35 is just money wasted :-) that said with all the money you have saved with the Brexit you can fund the NHS and buy some f35 :-D

[@ianrichards909]

@@arno222444- The Rafale and the Typhoon are pure junk, 1970s technology… that’s why the Rafale and the Typhoon keep losing to the F-35 in Switzerland, Finland, Germany, Belgium, Norway, Netherlands, Australia, Italy, United Kingdom, Denmark, Poland, Israel, Czech Republic, Canada, Japan, South Korea and on and on… 😁😁😁

[@elmazmaliante2010]

Both are f16 with 2 engines and canards

[@MrSebfrench76]

That's the only thing that matters.

[@mahenkanakkahewage9805]

so probably the rafale is the more effective one

[@timmurphy5541]

At this level it would be about particular situations and tactics. The height and speed advantage of the Eurofighter directly impacts the Meteor missile's performance at long range for example. Unfortunately once you attract a Rafale fanboi the debate is over. - it ends up being a debate about nationality comparing past failings of one platform against future capabilities of another. Any concessions or attempts at fairness one might make are eaten up but here is one for example: this video is unfair to talk about the Eurofighter E-Scan radar as only Qatar and Kuwait have it in their aircraft in an early form (Mk0). On the other hand it doesn't mention 2 important EF weapons (ASRAAM and Paveway IV).

[@pitmarkovic4545]

Not realy the New electronic Wareface together with Sweden!Twice Multi Role Fighter!In Dogfight directly the Rafael better Role,this is only that to beet Typhon Eurofighter

[@NATObait]

​@@timmurphy5541 Brimstone is available on RAF Typhoon ( 18 carried ) , Marte ER anti ship missiles ( up to 5 can be carried ) . IR missiles IRIS T, ASRAAM, AIM 9X. and AMRAAM or Meteor for BVR. . Basically EF has a capable load out and soon to be introduced Litening 5 targeting pod with synthetic aperture radar ( 100k range ) will give a good side sweep for allocation of targets of opportunity.. 2 improved AESA radars are due and a Japanese/UK AESA Meteor type missile is under development.

[@timmurphy5541]

@@NATObait some of this is future capability. e.g. marte has been test fired but I can't find anything to say it's an operational capability yet. Qatar and Kuwait have ASEA but everyone else is waiting for MK1 or MK2. Personally I think the whole thing is hard to judge from the outside. All one can say for sure is that the EF nations were asleep for a while and France used that time but EF woke up eventually and started doing a few things.

[@NATObait]

@@timmurphy5541 Marte ER was delivered to the Qatari Air Force as the launch customer and is in service 2022. Italy have yet to integrate it on the Italian EF ( they have tested it obviously ) but have used it on helicopters. The latest Hensoldt AESA is due to be ready for the next batch of German/ Spanish orders probably 2025 delivery. The UK type is a 2028+ delivery.

[@matttranquart7763]

Rafale as well has an AESA radar, can also fire laser guided bombs, and you forgot the front cameras integrated on the Rafale above radar dome

[@RonJeremy514]

The Typhoon can also drop laser guided bombs, that's not a counterpoint. The EOTS though is a plus. As for AESA radars: the Typhoon is supposed to house the CAPTOR-E but both Rafale and Typhoon fail to generalize it across the fleets, because it's expensive to upgrade to it. A F-35 comes by default with an AESA, a stealth chassis and an EOTS which also acts as a low profile TGP so in practice, said TGP on the F-35 can be used during supersonic flight while costing just the same price and similar maintenance costs if not slightly lower to a Rafale.

[@enzofragante171]

One of the dilemmas the European nations had when designing the European fighter jet was also the air intakes. France argued that having them separated by putting them on each side of the fuselage would increase survivability. However, the other nations disagreed and didn’t think it mattered which is why you can see on the typhoon both intakes are stuck together under the fuselage. If debris were to get in it or say cannon rounds were to hit it. The typhoon would most likely be disabled. The rafale would have a standing chance in that matter.

[@NATObait]

The position of the intakes are always a calculated risk. Having intakes on the sides will indeed mitigate the failure of both engines to a degree but not having variable intakes will also be a risk as the service ceiling on Rafale is 52,000 ft v EF 65,000ft and weapons like Meteor have increased range due to inertia/ gravity. Also pulling high g turns causes less airflow into the outside engine intake on the Rafale compared to the EFT. We are now seeing the growth of ' Glide Weapons ' and launch from height is fundamental and ranges of 100+ miles is achievable with cost advantage over powered versions. Speed is your friend, height is your friend......a basic fact taught to all novice pilots.

[@denislaouenan5553]

@@NATObait France should have asked you what they needed in a fighter jet, but seems Navy yards should employ you also to sell frigates. With all that knowledge and competency you shouldn't waste your time explaining things to a bunch of frog eaters. Or is there political agendas and alliances of which you were not made aware?

[@LastyFr]

​@@NATObaitNo one care about the G pulled cause when you carry missile, bomb, and fuel tank, all fighter jet limit themself the G the pilot can pull, so on combat, the design of the Rafale is way better. But indeed for an airshow the Typhon will perform better. Now with thoses kind of info, you can find yourself wich one is the most usefull to do what its made to do.

[@RonJeremy514]

@@NATObait The small diameter bombs are unpowered for cost and size reasons. In theory an AASM will do the job somewhat better per gram being both powered and glider. The concept of small diameter glide bombs though is great. 8 internal bombs is huge. Now imagine on a F-15 how much it could in theory carry on pylons.

[@NATObait]

@@LastyFr If you have a bigger internal fuel tank and bombs & a few missiles and a built in targeting pod you can fly at supersonic speeds .....that would be a F35 then.

[@55_Ski]

Now it’s Rafale standard F4 DGAC is planning to go on F5

[@johndoe-cd9vt]

and F4 can detect any stealth aircraft with infrared radars... the stealth era is 100% over.

[@RonJeremy514]

​@@johndoe-cd9vtLol no, stealth is very much standard now for new aircrafts, including 6th gen. You can't detect IR signatures as far as a radar can through electromagnetic pulses, that's a major problem. You can't cheat physics like this. Also a F-35 comes by default with an AESA, stealth chassis and the EOTS looking 360° (also acts as a TGP which can be used in supersonic flights unlike other traditional TGPs on a pylon). The Rafale doesn't have much on that, sorry to break it for you.

[@johndoe-cd9vt]

@@RonJeremy514 like I said, F4 and F5 version of the Rafale can detect ANY 5th gen fighter, stop thinking stealth means invisible... You clearly don't know the rafale and the SPECTRA auto defense system that is managing all the different types of radars, the main one is a RBE2 AESA, but he has many other way to detect and track the targets. The data provided by all the different radars and sensors are all computer and presented to the pilot, that's exactly the same type of thing you have in the F35 (data fusion). The F35 is the jet that own the record of crashes during the last 5 years, it's just crazy to see how bad this jet is. Also, the F35 and the F22 can't go and maintain themselves in supercruise mode! The rafale does that fingers in the nose ... Also 6th gen is not ready at all, Dassault is also working on a 6th gen jet.

[@RonJeremy514]

​@@johndoe-cd9vt The F5 is not even there yet, not a single piece of metal of it exists yet what are you on about buddy? Let alone the government has to purchase the F4.1 in quantity. Reminder: F3R aircrafts are not all up to standard to begin with, only 30% of the Rafale fleet has an AESA, it's expected only 50% of those to have one in, 2030. The F4 is the last revision of the classic Rafale models from the F3R block and it won't even match an F-35 yet at this point. There is nothing crazy or inovative about sensor fusion and L16 data link in 2024, the F-35 already does this like you said, but in an even more modern aircraft and even better, capable to identify unknown aircraft models. In fact, the F4 and F5 upgrades of the Rafale are expected to adapt to the F-35's new data link system and not the other around. "Also, the F35 and the F22 can't go and maintain themselves in supercruise mode! The rafale does that fingers in the nose ..." HORSESHIT! They can. Where are you getting your data from? The Rafale is constantly seen with two or three drop tanks hanging below increasing its RCS massively, its fuel consumption and drag while slowing down the aircraft A LOT! ATE himself said that the aircraft in this configuration basically consumes at least 4 times as much fuel (even with supersonic drop tanks) and its Snecma M88 are struggling like a freight truck to turn, maintain altitude and accelerate like that. The F-35 carries nearly twice as much fuel internally and reduced aero drag from having internal bays, meaning less fuel consumption either way and more range, more strike capabilities. "The F35 is the jet that own the record of crashes during the last 5 years, it's just crazy to see how bad this jet is." Literally France doesn't own a 5th gen jet at the moment unlike less geopolitcally and economically important countries, that alone is a fat middle finger in your face. And given the recent accidents involving Rafale aircrafts, I would also have you remain quiet meanwhile the F-35 has been produced more and is deployed more often in the air including to strike targets such as Iran, not flip flop wearing terrorists with rusty AK rifles. So you're late to the party, bud. Jumping from 4th gen to 6th gen is not nothing, it's a massive leap and Dassault's engineer don't even have experience with 5th gen. It's going to be interesting to see how it plays out. But again, your Rafale doesn't detect a 5th gen aircraft. Far from it. SPECTRA upgrade is only expected starting from 2030 along a mid life AESA upgrade. The Rafale is lagging behind and the Air2030 swiss report showed it clearly, during their trials the F-35 has proved technologically way ahead which is why they decided to pruchase it. Unless you are the type to pull another "LM bribed them" excuse. Not only that, but the F-35 is also upgrading mind you.

[@ruckzuck5544]

@@johndoe-cd9vt wer verarscht euch da ständig ,schaltet doch mal das Gehirn ein

[@filemonpuente1766]

👍El Rafale🇨🇵 Frances,Moderno,Hermoso y poderoso.El mejor multirol del Mundo.

[@phlm9038]

True, but some in the comment section don't want to hear it.

[@iansmith4244]

The head on view of the typhoon is a thing of beauty 😍

[@R12gsa09]

Greece also has Rafale in her Hellenic Air Force command (F3R) as of 2022.

[@ludsl7136]

Outdated information about the RAFALE...

[@christophepatou1764]

From mylitary test repports available never see Rafale below F35 and Eurofighter and this in all domains of flight and of technology.

[@hellboystein2926]

Actually the Typhoon can reach a maximum speed of Mach 2,35.

[@mattgummerson8370]

@@nathangandonn3324 is this a comparison of the Typhoon and mirage???

[@NATObait]

@@nathangandonn3324 Can Mirage 2000 reach Mach 2.35 ? I don't think so.

[@NATObait]

It's the Transonic envelope that is the most important and Eurofighter can maintain 9g turns while carrying missiles and 2 fuel tanks constantly to Mach 1•2 . In war mode the engines can deliver 69k of thrust without Afterburner ( not far behind Rafale in afterburner mode 75k ) . Rafale has better low speed handling as it is designed for carrier deck landing but that only gives an advantage at air shows . Of course Eurofighter Typhoon is more expensive due to multiple production lines but the FCAS is destined to copy that scenario.

[@nathangandonn3324]

@@mattgummerson8370 yes

[@stevetrott1253]

Typhoon s weight to thrust immense Rafale is not in that league The typhoon was designed to quickly get to a high ceiling and deal with the opposition from that point . Actual top speed is irrelevant , so are cross vertical When your likely to shooting down planes from over 100 miles away

[@starseed8087]

Doesn't matter too much which machine is better, I just think the Eurofighter looks more evil / sexy than the Rafale

[@McCloggie]

Got to admit, the French know how to make beautiful designs.

[@dannywest7587]

It's not about the aircraft, it's about the pilots!!!

[@collectiusindefinitus6935]

Pilots are part of it, but the aircraft themselves also have a huge role. Besides, this is an aircraft comparison.

[@devamjani8041]

Rafaels have also been exported to India.

[@aaronking2369]

Lol indian finally realised the Russian trash they keep buying is no good then😂

[@christophernicolson5086]

I think the Rafale is better multi-role as EF was designed to work with Tornados. At least initially. Now Tornado is retiring EF is getting upgraded.

[@joshafc41]

The typhoon has already replaced the tornado's capabilities for the RAF. The Tornados were retired long ago.

[@alpha001ful]

Great video ! Everything pretty much on point except the Cost. EF Typhoon is now more expensive than Rafale.

[@t.f.7828]

Rafale is so beautiful .....and so deadly.

[@f.mazz.459]

In 2 other videos I've seen it said the Euro Typhoon was more expensive than the Rafale...?

[@Borh7777]

The Eurofighter can also fire Meteor missiles so its bvr capabilities are close to the Rafale. At their debuts, both aircrafts were very different, Rafale was an omnirole fighter and Typhoon was an air superiority. But now both have very close capabilities. The Typhoon has become more versatile, and the Rafale has now advance air superiority capabilities and will soon replace the Mirage 2000 in this type of mission in the french air force.

[@aimgorge]

Rafale's way more advanced radar allows to do work better with METEOR than Eurofighter's outdated radar. Rafale is way better in multirole, since it can be used on NATO carriers and made for nuclear deterrence.

[@EnglishScripter]

@@aimgorge But Britian has better AWACS.....

[@aimgorge]

@@EnglishScripter wtf are you talking about. At this point UK has 0 AWACS. They retired them all in 2021. UK carriers can't even carry AWACS due to the absence of catapult anyway. Meanwhile France has 2 E-2Cs on its carrier and 4 E-3Fs

[@EnglishScripter]

@@aimgorge UK has E-7 Wedgetails. And they have AWACS helicopters for carriers....

[@aimgorge]

@@EnglishScripter Wedgetails haven't been delivered. And their orders were reduced from 5 to 3. Helicopter AWACS are a joke, at best.

[@Phaethon1977]

has been exported to Greece also

[@akashbenny5397]

Plus India too have decent num of Rafaels,and they are planning for a bigger order...these are just old episodes again re releasing...

[@mattgummerson8370]

Germany also ordering another large batch of typhoon, plus other countries which aren’t mentioned

[@pascalf764]

• Rafale B : 73 M€ TTC • Rafale C : 68 M€ TTC • Rafale M : 78 M€ TTC

[@lucaj8131]

TTC en mode on le trouve au super U a 20% de TVA.

[@pascalf764]

@@lucaj8131 en effet pour lexpor ils récupèrent la tva 😅

[@fredericmartin6994]

@@lucaj8131 quand tu exportes tu ne paies pas la TVA, va à la caisse centrale, présente ta piece d'identité si tu es étranger, on te fera la détax, mais n'oublie pas de faire le plein parce que si tu gares ton avion sur le bord de la route c'est la fourrière immédiatement

[@MrJopijopa]

Ça veut absolument rien dire ces chiffres. - package armement - simulateur - maintenances - volume de ventes - délai de livraison Etc. Beaucoup de facteurs influent sur le prix final.

[@pascalf764]

@@MrJopijopa c'est le prix d'un appareil pour les consommables ce n'est pas Dassault qui les vend et les fabrique

[@timmurphy5541]

Couldn't be bothered to list ASRAAM or Paveway IV for the Typhoon eh?

[@ParkerScum]

Not to mention Meteor and IRIS-T.

[@LondonSteveLee]

Or Meteor or IRIS-T!

[@Lee-sti8wrx]

The eurofighter uses the meteor missile as well. I'm not sure why you didn't add that. Makes me wonder what else you forgot. Like your channel, but you should get all the info right.

[@Rousseau4469]

Eurofighter is NOT for long range missions cause it has slightly shorter range. Neither Eurofighter has the Spectra which Rafale has and can obscure actively its presence till it's late enough for their opponent to trace it.

[@xenomorphelv4265]

5:07 this is the 30M791 (not the 30/719B which doesn't exists), it fires the 30x150b ammunition. The Rafale can carry up to 125 rounds. The force of the rafale is that most of the plane parts and armaments are designed and produced by french companies (Thales, SNECMA, Dassault, Nexter, MBDA) and we don't rely a lot on foreign good will to assure our defense.

[@rickwalker2]

Not so much MBDA; that's another consortium.

[@xenomorphelv4265]

@@rickwalker2 MBDA is providing most rafale's weapons : MICA air to air missiles, SCALP (aka Storm Shadow) cruise missile and the Nuclear capable ASMP-A air to ground missile. The only other provider is Safran with the AASM Hammer proppeled-gliding bomb.

[@rickwalker2]

@@xenomorphelv4265 Yep, I'm just pointing out that they're not really a French company. They have operations in France but are a consortium. Just like Eurofighter, Panavia etc.

[@xenomorphelv4265]

@@rickwalker2 what matter is that the military sovereingnty is preserved and the freedom of decision since there is no political restriction that can be set, unlike the ITAR regulations set by our "allied".

[@OnlyAnOpinion20]

Pretty sure the Typhoon uses the Meteor too, there seems to be a few errors in this vid, the Eurofighter has a company website you can get all the stats from.

[@philv3941]

it's 2023 comparizon, so the vid should have taken in consideration the F4 spec version of the Rafale, wich is produced just now, with a brand "2023" avionic. (the F3R will not be produced ... and it already has the AESA radar) - against the very latest update of the EF. both specs seems a little outdated. that's what i was waiting for, according to the title

[@Raz.C]

re - 9:00 Thanks for those images. The Tornado was a beautiful aircraft and it's a sad thing to know that it will likely never fly again. It was great seeing it flying here.

[@ShinoxSturmreiterDesTode]

RAFALE: version Marine : oui RAFALE : air - mer missiles EXOCET AM39 + nuclear strike mission : ASMP.A RAFALE: points d'emports = 14 RAFALE: DASSAULT - SECMA - THALES - NEXTER - MBDA(France) = 100% France

[@francescomangili6660]

MBDA is only 37% french

[@ShinoxSturmreiterDesTode]

@@francescomangili6660 MBDA France is MBDA France

[@octavia200]

​@@francescomangili6660MBDA was Matra before which was 100% French so MBDA is technically French company

[@RonJeremy514]

@@francescomangili6660 It's not because it's "only" 37.5% that technically they don't own it. It's shared with Airbus (also 37.5% in this company, but Airbus is also owned by the french government 0.1% more compared to Germany) and the rest is Leonardo with a minor share into the company. This is called a "joint venture" type of business.

[@didierlemoine6771]

Id like to see them both on complementary mission :=)

[@catfood_03_4stray]

The SCALP-EG long range missile and the Storm-Shadow long range missile is the same weapon with different names for the French Air-force and the Royal Air-force respectedly. You failed to mention the Taurus long range missile, that is operational with the German Air-force as well as with the Italian one ( carried by the Eurofighters of both countries ). Both aircraft are compatible with the advanced Meteor BVR missile. The main short range IR missile of Rafale-F3R is the MICA-IR. There is also a radar-guided ( for the initial stage of its flight ) version, with active-radar capabilities MICA-EM ( electro-magnetique ). The main short range IR missile of the Eurofighter-Typhoons is the IRIS-T off-line-of-sight missile and not the Sidewinders. CAPTOR-E radar is also an AESA technology radar same as the RBE-2AA.

[@kmanliberty1065]

British Typhoon are not equipped with IRIS-T. Instead they are using ASRAAM missiles.

[@MargotDobbie]

Why do people keep comparing allies. Theres literaly no chance of these planes ever being against each otiher. They excel in different areas as they are supposed to.

[@olivierrocat3932]

Rafale Armament: Nuclear😘

[@Psi-Storm]

Well the Americans won't license the Eurofighter for the nuclear armament sharing pact, because they want to sell their F35s to their allies.

[@NATObait]

​@@Psi-Storm the Eurofighter was not needed for Nuclear delivery because Tornado was doing that unlikely job. UK and Italy both have F35 now . Delivery of a nuclear weapon is not difficult but the protocols to prevent a rogue person doing it is.

[@mowgli2071]

This audio was so bad that it was distracting.

[@olivierpuyou3621]

It should nevertheless be noted that the Rafale beat the Eurofighter 8 times out of ten in all training competitions. That its availability is nearly twice that of the Eurofighter and that it has super cruise and a radar image equivalent to a quarter of that of the Eurofighter. So are they equivalent? No, I do not think so.

[@EnglishScripter]

Modern day you use AWACS mate. French use the E-3, Britain use the E-7.

[@EnglishScripter]

Also I dont see this so called competition anywhere.

[@aimgorge]

That's an old version of Rafale. Eurofighter is today considered way more expensive, in the 200m range. Also you are saying Rafale has better radar, range, electronic and weaponry but you declare Eurofighter superior for air-air... Wtf?? You didn't talk how Rafale being the only real bi-engine as Eurofighter shares the same intake

[@LondonSteveLee]

"Better" RADAR on Rafale? Yes and no. The RADAR return digital signal processing of Typhoon is known to be world class - possibly the best of any fighter sized aircraft - it is superb at picking out tiny RADAR signatures at extreme gain levels. For these reasons and regardless of RCS (which are totally unknown respectively) I'd expect Typhoon to acquire a lock on Rafale 10-20 NMs before Rafale can lock it - and of course in a passive search/fight Typhoon has a better IRST system. In high power search modes, Rafale has all the usual TX/RX element overheating issues that plague early (non GaN) AESA RADARs in fighter configurations cutting effective search range significantly as the RADAR drops into its various cooling strategies. This is why the Typhoon project delayed its AESA programme for so long - they couldn't get anywhere near CAPTOR-M for long-range search and track performance - which is a bit of an issue for an air-superiority fighter - so they held out until technology caught up. AESA - even flawed early implementations, made perfect sense for Rafale is it is primarily a multirole aircraft with focus on ground attack which AESA is imminently suited. Of course the other decisive factor for air-to-air engagements is Typhoon's (at least) 10,000 ft operating ceiling advantage giving its air to air weapons a significant uplift in ultimate range type for type. They are both superb aircraft and have plus and minuses over each other but essentially Typhoon is the better fighter and Rafale the better bomber. The carrier capability for Rafale is also a huge plus in its favour.

[@ralfmeyer9086]

I am a Eurofighter fan.🤘

[@frederickpile3599]

"CHASSE EMBARQUEE " ( marine nationnale videos )

[@Chanoey06]

Do europe countries have 5th generation fighter jets?

[@ayush8951]

India have also rafale ❤ rafale is love

[@StewartWalker-hy1eo]

Cheap

[@ayush8951]

@@StewartWalker-hy1eo what about ur country cheap

[@Dangermonkey1000]

@@StewartWalker-hy1eo ......cheap and best

[@StewartWalker-hy1eo]

@@Dangermonkey1000 when they come up against certain airforces the truth comes out not just the odd pilot

[@Dangermonkey1000]

@@StewartWalker-hy1eo ......like F117 ???

[@chrisdawson8517]

Think he’s got it the wrong way round at the end. The Euro fighter has seen active service, the French plane has not!

[@kuseel7493]

rafale has been used in combat, eurofighter has not

[@NATObait]

Certainly the Eurofighter Typhoon was used in different conflicts same as Rafale but neither aircraft have been used in AA contact with hostile adversaries like the F15 & F16. Both aircraft have matured at different stages , EFT was not needed for Ground Attack while Tornado was doing that job and Rafale had to retrofit a new AESA radar as the first was poor. Both aircraft are now performing as MULTIROLE capable platforms and that was a design mission. The biggest difference between them is Rafale is ITAR FREE while Germany are vetoing sales due to it's Flip flop government. If the difference between the two is marginal then Rafale is a safer bet. Remember the replacement aircraft being built by France and Germany & Spain is going to have a flip flop partner!

[@NATObait]

​@@kuseel7493Wrong !

[@Laserounet]

Rafale IS the best. That's all. 🤘🏻

[@EnglishScripter]

And why?

[@jacoblasoi9403]

​@@EnglishScripterEven though the Typhoon has Air superiority and advanced avionics that makes it efficient in the air ,while the Rafale misses some specs to match with the Euro ,Rafale is designed for Multi role purpose has great agility and manuverbilty with good specs on avionics

[@pablopeter3564]

EXCELLENT presentation. Cogratulations, keep on working. About of which of the two are better, you said it: each country has different necessities and requirements. Both aircraft are the best of the 4.5 generation.

[@kyro1979]

0:21 it´s R-A-F-A-L-E, not r-a-f-a-e-l...

[@acesentana472]

The Dassault Rafale and Eurofighter Typhoon are both advanced 4.5 generation multirole fighters, and the answer to which is "better" depends on the specific mission profiles and priorities. Here's a breakdown of how they compare across key factors: 1. Multirole Capabilities Rafale: Designed from the outset as a true multirole aircraft, the Rafale excels in air-to-air combat, air-to-ground missions, reconnaissance, and even nuclear deterrence. Its versatility makes it suitable for a wide range of missions, from strike operations to maritime deployments. Eurofighter Typhoon: Initially developed as an air superiority fighter, the Eurofighter has been upgraded to handle multirole tasks, including air-to-ground strikes. However, its air-to-air capabilities remain its strongest suit. 2. Air-to-Air Combat Rafale: Highly agile and well-suited for dogfighting, the Rafale is renowned for its maneuverability. It uses advanced avionics, and with its smaller size, it presents a smaller radar cross-section. Eurofighter: The Typhoon is considered one of the best in air-to-air combat, excelling in beyond visual range (BVR) engagements. It benefits from a powerful engine and excellent aerodynamics, making it extremely competitive in high-speed, high-altitude dogfights. Its Meteor missile gives it a notable edge in long-range engagements. 3. Avionics and Sensors Rafale: Equipped with the RBE2-AESA radar, the Rafale offers excellent radar performance, combined with sophisticated electronic warfare and sensor fusion systems. Its advanced sensor suite enhances situational awareness across various combat scenarios. Eurofighter: The CAPTOR-E AESA radar is among the most powerful in the world, offering superior range and resolution compared to previous radars. The Eurofighter’s sensor fusion and data link capabilities make it a formidable opponent in complex air combat situations. 4. Stealth and Survivability Rafale: While not a true stealth aircraft, the Rafale incorporates stealth features like reduced radar cross-section (RCS) and uses radar-absorbing materials. Its smaller size helps reduce detectability. Eurofighter: The Typhoon also lacks true stealth but incorporates some RCS-reducing features. Its design prioritizes agility and speed over stealth. However, in modern warfare, it relies on electronic warfare systems for survivability. 5. Weaponry Rafale: The Rafale is capable of carrying a wide range of weapons, including air-to-air missiles (MICA, Meteor), air-to-ground munitions, and even nuclear weapons. It can operate with both French and NATO weaponry, giving it great operational flexibility. Eurofighter: The Typhoon excels in air-to-air warfare, especially with the Meteor missile, which offers superior range compared to many counterparts. It is also fully equipped for air-to-ground missions, though these capabilities were added later in its development. 6. Operational Costs Rafale: Generally seen as having lower operating costs, the Rafale is built with affordability in mind, partly due to France’s need for an independent and cost-effective defense system. Eurofighter: The Eurofighter tends to be more expensive both in acquisition and operational costs, largely due to its multinational development and focus on high-performance air superiority. 7. Export Success Rafale: The Rafale has found success in export markets with countries like India, Qatar, Egypt, and Greece. Its multirole capability, naval variant, and competitive pricing have made it attractive to a variety of buyers. Eurofighter: The Eurofighter has also been widely exported, used by countries including Germany, the UK, Italy, Spain, Saudi Arabia, and Austria. Its strong air superiority capabilities and alliance within NATO make it a preferred choice for many European nations. Conclusion: Eurofighter Typhoon: If your priority is air superiority, especially for beyond-visual-range (BVR) engagements and high-speed dogfights, the Eurofighter excels in air combat, particularly when equipped with the Meteor missile. Dassault Rafale: If you need a more versatile aircraft that can perform well in both air-to-air and air-to-ground missions, including naval operations, the Rafale is the more flexible, multirole fighter, capable of adapting to diverse mission requirements. Ultimately, the "better" aircraft depends on mission requirements. The Eurofighter shines in air dominance, while the Rafale is the superior all-rounder.

[@pinkunicorn3373]

Le Rafale est le meilleur avion de sa génération, et il le reste face au F35. La version F4 lui confère encore plus de potentiel et est en cours de déploiement. La version F5 futur lui donnera notamment la possibilité de contrôler en vol un ( ou plusieurs) drone de combat type nEUROn. Maintenant la France fait ce qu'elle peut face à la puissance diplomatique et militaire des us et vend ses avions à des pays qui ne veulent pas dépendre de us et de ses nombreux département d'état pour tout et n'importe quoi. Sachant que quand il s'agit de te mettre une carotte, les usa sont champions.

[@micha3624]

still missing the 2-way datalink for missiles, which other competitors have had for some time...

[@CliveWilmer]

From the title I was hoping for an update based on the latest variants of both aircraft, but I was disappointed to find all the information is dated. The lastest Typhoons are rolling off with AEsa radars. Also Typhoon and Rafale can carry Meteor. Most air to air would be resolved BVR so the avionics and missile are more important than the performance characteristics of the aircraft. Also to answer the comment of those who point to the lists of acquitting countries I strongly suspect that this has more to do with politics. The French are more likely to be independent of American pressure (many components and BAe is heavily integrated with American defence interests), not to mention Germany's propensity to tie itself in knots when it comes to supplying arms

[@jeanvaljean9293]

120 millions is for France and only for France, VAT included that never applied for exports... Bascially you are comparing Rafale with tax and EF without taxe... how fair is that? The magic 2... seriously ?!

[@wudruffwildcard252]

It is so funny to compare the Rafale to the Typhoon. The Typhoon is the only Western interceptor in existence. Every other Western Jet is a Fighter or a Multi Role Fighter like the Rafale.

[@Fabio-om4kb]

Oui surtout que des multiroles navalisé dans les 10 tonnes ils en existent pas des masses, c'est d'autant plus con.

[@danieldesjardins4911]

Rafale is not multi-role is omni-role that mind instead of a multi-role he don't have to be preprared long hours to change is mission

[@LondonSteveLee]

Any perceived turn rate advantage the Rafale had has been matched or bettered by the 2015 Aerodynamic Modification Kit that gave Typhoon 15% more nose authority and wing lift with no cost to drag but given the weapons onboard Rafale or Typhoon if you find yourself in a dogfight - something has goon horribly wrong! As for the Rafale having cheaper to maintain engines - Typhoon engines are regularly doubling their expected MTBF in service prompting Rolls Royce to offer customers a significant uplift in thrust (via a software update) with no increased maintenance. The Rafale's RADAR is currently a better multitasker (although with a limited field of view due to the small nose) but Typhoon's is better at long-range search and track. The ISRT system on Typhoon is also superior. It's interesting that the video lists Typhoon as having AMRAAM and Sidewinder as primary weapons! Eurofighter customers generally use superior ASRAAM, IRIS-T or Meteor along with old stocks of AMRAAM. The carrier capability of Rafale is a strong point - however that's also what steered engine development towards low altitude efficiency and performance over outright fighter like characteristics of Typhoon's engines. Tranche 4 onwards Typhoon also has a sophisticated EW capabilities.

[@michelayad9479]

FAKE NEW !!!😂

[@michelayad9479]

Désolé mais le rafale est largement supérieur au typhoon en systèmes électroniques et fusion de données puisque dassault les maîtrise depuis les années 60 ,ont peut dire que le rafale à 10 ans d’avance sur le typhoon

[@joh8379]

We should listen to the french and build an streamlined homogeneous European Military, engineering and building the equipment ourselves. Our Security industry needs to bee independent from global political relations and schould be operable without NGO contractors.

[@KKPR533]

RUSSIANS and FRENCH make the most goood looking aircrafts

[@mhawk1292]

Rafale has a 52,000 feet service ceiling not 42,000 feet.

[@littlepea1325]

Rafale is probably the best fighter jet in the world actually. He s winning all competitions. Even f35 got scores under him.

[@aaronking2369]

Its not better than f-35 don't be ridiculous your indian aren't you😂

[@tinman3586]

The Rafale seems like a much more successful fighter. It can do basically everything the Eurofighter can do but it's also an excellent navalized multirole fighter that rivals the F18E/F Super Hornet, and can even operate from US aircraft carriers. Plus I love the smooth deisgn and appearance, it's a beautiful machine.

[@sudheer.kkollayi7576]

Indian Air force using Rafale 36❤❤

[@frederickpile3599]

" CHASSE EMBARQUÉE" VIDEOS .

[@aaronking2369]

Smart better than the other Russian junk you have

[@GuiBu-m7w]

Every pilots will say it, and said it.. For many reasons the Rafale is far away better... but Typhoon very good. And we are together❤

[@joshm3484]

In the realm of military aircraft, these two are _the_ major competitors? How can you be wrong in the first 30 seconds?

[@xh3598]

The F-15EX has the strongest center box among any fighters worldwide, enabling it to effortlessly handle any G-force at various loads. In my view, the future F15 should leverage the rear cockpit by integrating advanced command computers to replace the weapon officer and command up to eight UCAVs alongside to the battle zone. Furthermore, with additional wing pods at stations 1 and 9, it possesses the capability to carry an enormous weapon payload to the war zone, akin to having R2D2 in the back seat. There are endless technologies embedded into the F15 that may be better than the F35 or the next 6Gen. The F15 will always be the workhorse that can carry massive weapons and now it has technology companions that don't care about G-force maneuvers. Compare: 1 (6 Gen Fighter) vs 1 (F15EX+8 UCAV).

[@snowman4527]

The French are more reliable suppliers, EU (not trustworthy) EU listens to USA which is a very bad point to non NATO nations

[@richardbradley1532]

You realise that the EU is not a country and France is an EU member?

[@snowman4527]

@@richardbradley1532 So? did I not distinguish between them. EU banded together to make Euro fighter. Gripen is Swedish. My post is valid.

[@richardbradley1532]

@@snowman4527 No, the EU did not band together to produce the Eurofighter. Are you a bit thick?

[@snowman4527]

@@richardbradley1532 UK no longer EU and Spain Germany and Italy. Major EU countries. The little ones do not have the local Infrastructure. You want to question semantics. Because your ego was hurt by misreading my initial post.

[@richardbradley1532]

@snowman4527 The EU has never produced a single fighter aircraft. I did not misunderstand your original post. It was plain wrong.

[@terrywainman6050]

You need to update this video the typhoon carries the Meteor Missile and as two way data link the rafale as only one.

[@johndoe-cd9vt]

The rafale is NOT a competitor of the Typhoon, he is a competitor of the F22 ... The typhoon is not even on the table ...

[@philv3941]

not, at all, the 22 or the F35 are used with very low RCS mode even with missiles and bombs in board, and no Rafale, Gripen or Eurofighter could do that. Loaded, the speed drops and the RCS explode. They are still very polyvalent and relevant machines, but until the NGF/SCAF is not on the table, no, the dassault nor airbus products are not good competitors of 5th gen on many many missions. Just listen to Ate (chuet) has to say on this topic (and he is a former Rafale instructor, just saying) . we are franch, it's ok, but we can be fair too ;)

[@johndoe-cd9vt]

@@philv3941 you don't even know what you are talking about, I know Ate very well and I also know Mover (US side...), Mover and his friend Gorky (2 former pilots) call the F35 "Fat Amy" just to make fun of it... The F22 and the F35 are LESS maneuverable than any good delta wings, they are also very bad at supercruising. The F35 is still full of issues, very unstable. Stealth ? You are stealth if you don't touch anything and don't wear anything outside the plane... in other word, you sacrifice MANY important features for the only goal to remain stealth.. something that can easily be uncovered by the spectra system or by the surface to air radars who can communicate with all the rafales in the area in real time... There is a sentence for that "putting all your eggs in the same basket" that's how they lost a F 117 Nighthawk a few years ago, a plane who was supposed to be "invisible" ...

[@lucaj8131]

The real serious competitors the rafale actually has to face off against on the export market are the f-18 SH and f-35.

[@johndoe-cd9vt]

@@lucaj8131 another wrong statement.. the rafale has already outsell the F35 multiple years... Also many countries in EU buy the F35, not because it's a better aicraft but because to be able to use the nuclear bomb provided by the US, they have to buy a US jet ...

[@micha3624]

@@johndoe-cd9vt another wrong statement, tornado is a european aircraft that can carry b61

[@Ranjith-Kumar_]

Make a video on Tejas (Hal) comparing it’s class jets

[@NATObait]

Rafale can operate from a carrier, drop a nuclear weapon, is ITAR free and is cheaper to buy and fly. Eurofighter is faster. Repositioner on AESAradar . 2 way data link to Meteor. Altitude advantage.. Both have strengths and are on the same side. Binkov has done a vidio comparison with all similar aircraft and SH F18 is the most effective for the money. Well worth watching!

[@leneanderthalien]

the half of the Rafale F3R are still refitted with AESA radars...and all the F4 ...a new version from the Snecma M88 engine is planed with 20Kn higher trust, this will improve the climb, altitude and speed performances from the Rafale

[@NATObait]

@@leneanderthalien An upgraded engine would not improve the maximum height level as the Rafale has fixed air intakes unlike the Eurofighter that has variable intakes hence a 25% greater height advantage.

[@aimgorge]

​@@NATObaitwho cares about height advantage though. Future is low altitude.

[@NATObait]

@@aimgorge The height advantage means a Meteor missile launched at speed can increase its range and save fuel for the end game interception and that could be a 25% range advantage. The dog fight is almost never used it's always BVR as first choice then at closer ranges helmet queueing IR missiles can be launched and they have considerable range too.

[@aimgorge]

@@NATObait the most important part for the Meteor's range and BVR is the radar range... And Rafale's RBE2 vastly outperforms Eurofighter's CAPTOR-e. That's why the ECRS Mk-2 is being developed but won't be available before long.

[@Cravendale98]

Both are excellent in their latest configurations, I would personally give an edge to the Typhoon based on the better thrust to weight ratio and a more powerful radar. But there isnt much in it, they share many of the same weapons too.

[@catfood_03_4stray]

Inaccurate data ! The cost per unit of a Eurofighter-Typhoon is considerably bigger than the one of Rafale and this accounts for the better export contracts of the French aircraft ( value for money option ). The Eurofighter-Typhoon weighs 33% more than a Rafale. To compare Rafale's maximum takeoff weight with the Eurofighter's standard takeoff weight ( internal fuel and gun-ammo only ) is not fair. Check your sources again please !

[@ultra8142]

Just like Private plane Can a person Buy a Private Fighter Jet like they Owned or Buy Cars ... I am Really Curious about that ...

[@micha3624]

you can buy demilitarized F-16, probably other aircraft too. But flying it private is hard to do it (but possible) - you'd have to register it as a prototype aircraft (or sth like that) as it's not compatible with civil aviation regulations, and EXPENSIVE. Mostly private f-16's are actually owned by private companies working as contractors for the military

[@fabiomascret6201]

In every competition, the rafale was better than the typhoon like in Switzerland, south, Korea, Finland, Indonesia... And those who said the typhoon is cheaper, is in a certain way normal, because more typhoon were built so there is an economy of scale

[@filetdelumiere5037]

You forgot one important thing in your comparison. The rafale has a Marine version for aircraft carriers. This was possible thanks to the position of the "plan-canard" which allows good visibility for carrier landing (not the case for Typhoon).

[@Fabio-om4kb]

Une bonne visibilité ? 😂 non une faible vitesse d'approche tout en restant stable.

[@kolerick]

there is one mission in which the Rafale is inferior: interceptor and that's because the EF2000 was originally conceptualized as a pure interceptor. It was designed for fast climb and high ceiling flight. and even in this specialty, the Rafale could get even. It has 2 Snecma engines with 9T of push each... and Snecma has said they were ready to provide same size engines with 12T of push each... a 1/3 increase that would remove most of the few inferior points that the Rafale against the opposition... all the opposition. Now, to make the politicians give the money for that... it's another problem oh, btw, the Rafale is less costly to operate (cost by hour of flight) than the F22 (of course), the F35 and the EF2000 (I would need to look in the FA18 operational cost). From what numbers I saw published, only the Gripen is more cost efficient than the Rafale. And let's not forget that the Rafale was designed to be operated in degraded environment (desert, ocean) and to be easily maintained in consequence...

[@EnglishScripter]

The rafale is also extremely expensive to buy..

[@LondonSteveLee]

Ah but Roils Royce have recently released a software update for EJ200 which unlocks at least another 20% thrust as the engines are proving to be so reliable in service. The next refresh of EJ200 has a couple of cooling enhancements that adds another 10% on top of that - all in all this maintains Eurofighters significant power to weigh edge over Rafale.

[@hervelesage5286]

Petite erreure le rafale dispose de 2 reacteurs de 7.5 tonnes de poussé chacun,il existe un moteur snecma pour le rafale á 9t mais pas retenu par le politique ce qui est une erreur beaucoup de pilote demande la version 9t.

[@MB-em9ek]

@@hervelesage5286 J'en connais un qui regarde Até.

[@hervelesage5286]

@@MB-em9ek Complétement!😉 On voit que ces utiles,vue les saussices que je lit. Je regarde aussi marty qui est devenu démonstrateur chez d'assault,ce sont tous les 2 de trés belles personnes. Si vous connaissez pas je vous conseils la chaine chillout de la marine,les vidéo sont juste éxecptionnel.👍

[@dado380]

From the front Rafale is the most sexiest aircraft ever(minus fuel nozzle)!!

[@frederickpile3599]

" CHASSE EMBARQUÉE " VIDEOS.

[@europeanzorro4330]

Rafale has better electronics than the Eurofighter hence it would show superiority in Air and and as a multirole fighter. In addition it has better weapons. Rafale is a much better plane to the Eurofighter.

[@LondonSteveLee]

Nonsense. In earlier configurations perhaps but not today - BAe supply the EW/SEAD/DEAD packages to the F-35 project - I think they know what they are doing! What "better weapons" does Rafale have? In high power search modes, Rafale has all the usual TX/RX element overheating issues that plague early (non GaN) AESA RADARs in tightly packaged fighter configurations - cutting effective search range significantly as the RADAR drops into its various cooling strategies. This is why the Typhoon project delayed its AESA programme for so long - they couldn't get anywhere near CAPTOR-M for long-range search and track performance - which is a bit of an issue for an air-superiority fighter - so they held out until technology caught up. AESA - even flawed early implementations, made perfect sense for Rafale is it is primarily a multirole aircraft with focus on ground attack which AESA is imminently suited. Of course the other decisive factor for air-to-air engagements is Typhoon's (at least) 10,000 ft operating ceiling advantage giving its air to air weapons a significant uplift in ultimate range type for type.

[@ruckzuck5544]

da haben wir gerade eine sehr gute und zutreffende Zusammenfassung von 472 gelesen und schon ist der nächste Dödel aus dem Kindergarten da ,der seine Förmchen verteidigt . Euch Franzen ist echt nicht zu helfen .

[@jabsdrahm.3232]

Typhoon: Rapid Air superiority, that is what it was designed for, rapid interception of Russian planes over the North Sea. It was a true replacement for the English Electric Lightning. The Rafale was designed for a a different role. The Typhoon has been updated many times now, with many versions

[@zudutakoari6959]

I see we are dealing with someone incompetent who knows nothing about this video because of several points: -The RafaleC price=68M€ RafaleM=70M€ Eurofighter=120M€ -The weight Rafale=9 tons empty Eurofighter=11 tons empty Burst=25 tons max Eurofighter=21 tons max The Rafale also has better armament in all respects, especially since the Eurofighter has a canard plane below the cockpit, not great for air-to-ground when it's supposed to be one of the specialties of the EUFI. The Rafale is also much more aerodynamic and its canard plan is placed to the millimeter to give it excellent maneuverability and will therefore have no trouble destroying, swallowing, eating or exterminating an EUFI in a dogfight. Lazy to continue since the Rosbeef are in love with their counterfeit Rafale or their EAP (still in the parking lot for the French for short).

[@justhouz]

Both planes are capable. On the Typhoon, the canard wings obstruct the view of the ground because they are just below the cabin. This can be inconvenient for certain ground attack operations. On the Rafale, they are placed further back, allowing direct observation. On the other hand, Rafale pilots indicate that they would like a slightly more powerful engine. In particular, when the plane is carrying a large load. Another advantage of the Rafale is that it exists in a navalized version. It is interesting to note that, so far, in the majority of combat exercises, the Rafales have won every time against the Typhoons.

[@corvoattano4777]

Rafale is definitely superior no doubt

[@maliknoman3082]

JF17 is better than Rafale and Eurofighter😂😂😂

[@w47w]

The Eurofighter achieves Mach 2.35 / 2900kmH according to the latest reports from people who need to know. With new engines that are 20% more powerful, things look different again. When it comes to the electronic warfare systems/Hensoldt and Co that he now gets, the Rafale can no longer keep up. It's not designed for such gimmicks at all. Furthermore, it can withstand loads of up to 19 G during evasive maneuvers where the computer then flies. Its extremely high cornering speed makes it the only jet that can fly loaded, even in the Mach range, thanks to its carbon fiber composite construction. Rafale and co would fall apart. At climb rate he leaves everything behind. In 60 seconds with supersonic speed at an altitude of 10,000 meters. The engines are far more powerful than those of Rafale. 90kn with afterburner, in case of war 95kn. With emergency power 102 kn for a short time. Rafale is at 75kn with afterburner. That's 20% less at 90 kn EF. There is still a lot to be said for new engines that are even more economical. You can google everything.

[@_dionisio]

The Eurofighter Typhoon consortium is built on the strength of 4 European nations: UK; Germany; Italy and Spain, you forgot Spain

[@badapple2221]

Everyone talking about which is the best but let's be honest, the EF is ugly asf.