Battle Of The Canards | Eurofighter Typhoon Vs Dassault Rafale | Digital Combat Simulator | DCS |

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

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[@tmytyson]

Time to up the ante: rally a few more foes and determine the King of the Canards. A multiway dogfight free-for-all, WVR, Fox-2s optional. Featuring a mix of (but not limited to) the Typhoon, Rafale, Gripen-E, and Flanker-H. May the best 'nard win.

[@murph3194]

@tmytyson That would make for a great vid. Can't leave out the F-15 stol though.

[@Stephen7344]

Could you make more videos flying the rafael. You don't have much videos flying it

[@bahe57]

Maybe the f15 stol/mtd?

[@talon0863]

That's not flying, that's falling with style. ...Woody (Tom Hanks)

[@Arthurentertains]

What part?

[@andersjjensen]

@@Arthurentertains The differential thrust part where GS basically induces a controlled (more or less) flat spin.

[@martindione386]

@@Arthurentertains Toy Story I, when Buzz makes a demonstration of flying in front of the other toys

[@truthseeker9454]

@@martindione386 I see what you did there and appreciate it! 😆

[@Arthurentertains]

@@andersjjensen thanks

[@hariszark7396]

GS can spot a single bullet hit on an enemy aircraft from 50-100 meters away but can't spot he is missing a whole wing section on his aircraft when get hit multiple times.. 😆

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Lold

[@Stormcrow_1]

"Tis but a scratch."

[@RadioStationRail]

@@Stormcrow_1 Its only a flesh wound!

[@artemis5168]

2:57 Yeah, pretty damn sure you just smoked 14 prairie dogs, killed two deer by blunt force trauma, and lit about nine rattlesnakes on fire........

[@RadioStationRail]

No one is going to miss the rattlesnakes though

[@SPDFRK]

@@RadioStationRail Mrs. rattlesnake and the snakelings might.

[@417Owsy]

@@SPDFRK this reply sounds like a Vietnam-era early rock band

[@eeik5150]

@@RadioStationRail I am. But I have a conservationists heart. Not to be confused with environmentalist.

[@fdel7032]

So we have a barb after the fight?

[@murph3194]

"I think I'm still combat effective" as it's just him strapped to the pilot seat propelled across the sky from inertia and his wing spinning past him. lol Very entertaining as usual. Well done sir.

[@andersjjensen]

According to GS you're still combat effective is you can yell obscenities at the enemy.

[@Filip_Phreriks]

I've heard that planes who lose one or more wings fly less well

[@andersjjensen]

@@Filip_Phreriks Depends on how fast they're going. The F-104 Starfighter could supposedly fly perfectly fine at mach 2 without wings. The whole problem starts arising when you want to change direction.

[@AShadowboxsFSX]

You should invite that Rafale pilot back on the channel now that he wouldn't be stuck in a Mirage lol

[@snugglecity3500]

He might not be allowed to fly it. I recall he wasnt allowed to use missiles on the mirage.

[@paint4r]

@@snugglecity3500In one of the interviews he said Fox-2 stuff was fine, they just chose to do guns only

[@snugglecity3500]

@paint4r oh, i thought he said he wasn't allowed to do fox2 stuff.

[@paint4r]

@ He just said he couldn't do Fox-3 unless I'm misremembering it

[@snugglecity3500]

@paint4r probably, I dont remember either evidently.

[@OutlawLotus]

It's pretty cool how a dogfight between these two looks like a dance of death. There's certainly a lot of grace in the way these things fly.

[@commandergeokam2868]

Indeed

[@andersjjensen]

"I'm a leaf on the wind, watch how I soar" comes to mind.

[@acomingextinction]

​@@andersjjensenthanks now I'm crying

[@pldaniels]

@@andersjjensen always will be too soon.

[@oojiflip]

Just a pair of roblox flight models lol, this is just ridiculous

[@LT_WARWOLF]

The Rafale vs The Eurofighter is somewhat of an apples to apples comparison and I think this video clearly demonstrated it. Thank you GS 🙌

[@alf3071]

the rafale is the nicer looking plane tho

[@LT_WARWOLF]

@alf3071 You could say that it looks smoother 🥲

[@JinTeutonic53]

​@alf3071 as a german i have to agree french Make good planes!

[@incassable]

@@JinTeutonic53not frenchies, Dassault ;-)

[@FRSineQuaNon]

@@incassable Dassault is french...

[@zloy3641]

Finally a video with the Rafale… but why don’t ever fly it you’re always flying the Eurofighter…

[@theboz8161]

Im surprised the differential thrust works that well in the Eurofighter since the engines are so close together.

[@StaK_1980]

with enough trust differential, any two seater can rotate. :-P

[@fred3965]

Those engines are seriously powerful

[@ZachSawyer2077]

I think they make the spins more controllable

[@RyzawaCh]

yeah i was impressed with that too, i wonder how well the rafale pilot would've done if he did diff thrusting as well

[@subpilot1000]

I learned long ago to click the like button before watching. I've seen every fight @GS has posted and I've never NOT liked a single one! I really enjoyed the WWI biplane action, especially the pistol dispatches! More please!

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

I appreciate you, much love.

[@truthseeker9454]

I second that! I'd love to see the Two Morons flying some co-op WWI missions.

[@deadly_wither]

I love it when you fly the Typhoon

[@derdoofedoofmann]

Yes indeet! He is very good with it :)

[@sorryociffer]

I love the look of the Rafale tandem seat…. Beautiful lines….

[@TurboMcAwesome]

🤣 GS reluctantly acknowledging that he can't keep fighting with one wing.

[@RoyHobbs-f4v]

... incredible stall and recovery. What a scene! Love the Typhoon...

[@CapitanoAraym]

Two "cousins" fighting each other: to think that the Rafale could have been the Eurofighter itself, if France kept their commitment with the other major EU countries involved at the time in the project: running by memory, the "Rafale" precursor idea was one of the possible candidate to the Eurofighter place, but France wanted it - as the actual, indipendently produced Rafale - also able to operate as a carrier plane, a feature not so primary to the other EU countries (mainly, Italy, Germany and Spain, as none of them needed a navalized version)... ... so France pulled off the continental project and pursued their internal development, also to be able to have an "in house" fighter to be independent to external factors. Kinda risky economically, but (as an airplane enthusiast as me) a great way to see two very nice ones instead of only one 😋

[@Foxtrop13]

Dassault had been making deltas for half a century at that time, the EU kept f*cking the eurofighter up so they went and make their own plane

[@CapitanoAraym]

@@Foxtrop13 🙂 Definitely Dassault has an awesome heritage of deltas... and even if the collaboration didn't actually work, I'm pretty sure that some of the french ideas still survived in the final Eurofighter. I think that none of the two is "messed up", in the end: the main difference I think is just about the production of the actual plane itself. For the Eurofighter, each main partecipant country produce only "a set" of parts, and then they are assembed together, as a shared result... France, I think, was against this production organization, and wantend to have a whole production line (mostly, probably, to keep the whole Dassault fully functional, and not as only a contractor of some systems)

[@electric_boogaloo496]

The French also have been very entrepreneurial in selling weapons and tech to neutral and non-ally nations. Heck, they were selling nuclear reactors to Saddam that Iran and Israel teamed up to airstrike. They would want their ability to produce their aircraft less restricted by other countries' approval of France's customers.

[@zrav1522]

That's a sanitized version of events. Apart from the diverging requirements, France "left" the coalition because it wanted to be firmly in the driver seat of the project, not share know-how, get most of the industry workshare, but have the other nations pay the bill. France pursues the so called strategic autonomy and is very protective of its industries. This makes defence collaborations difficult, which can be seen, again, in currently faltering projects.

[@CapitanoAraym]

@@zrav1522 ​ Yeah... that could be another way to tell the same story, equally true... ... I just do not like start "internet dramas", respecting the "positive aura" that I feel when watching GS videos, so I probably searched the "best" paraphrasals I could find. ☺ We cannot blame the French to be... well... "The French". 🤣 It is not their fault that they are "drawn" like that

[@piggywiggy1820]

I wish we could've seen the first battle from the 3rd person camera all the way through. The things these planes can do is absolutely insane!

[@Gozar111]

Oh look an aircraft wing flying past. Looks just like mine. Oh wait…

[@JonBrase]

The delta planform on both aircraft means that the undersides of the outboard wing sections aren't in the way of the wingtip vortices from the inboard wing sections, which then curl back around inject energy into the airflow on topsides of the outboard sections. This delays the stall to much higher AoA, which means they can take out a ton of lift, but, not having the wingtip vortices blocked leads to a ton of induced drag at high AoA. This contributes to the tight one-circles down to the deck we see here, and but also leaves the aircraft with a severe energy deficit when they hit the deck. In a 2-circle fight, both aircraft are good at generating overshoot because they can slow down so quickly, but, for the same reason, both are good at preventing overshoot. However, whoever loses the overshoot fight ends up carrying a lot of AoA (with the corresponding drag) to stay airborne, and can't do much to prevent the other party from shooting away into another 2-circle.

[@typhvam5107]

Those super agile planes offer the most interesting/fun fights

[@5chr4pn3ll]

It's a lot of fun seeing more European fighters.

[@lno_onel3071]

8:00 "we are still combat e- no we are not, no wing"

[@sol2wit781]

It's totally not the plane, it's the pilot. They are both good dogfighters but it on pilot skill

[@AadhityaVijayanandh]

Did you watch Top Gun Maverick? I'm pretty damn sure the "Its not the plane, its the pilot" thing was a movie line.

[@G-2Ub]

@@AadhityaVijayanandh Dont waste your time with that kind of people. He is the kind of guy who can say a MiG15 can beat a F22 because « it’s not the plane, it’s the pilot »

[@sol2wit781]

@@G-2Ub the F-22 could take out almost anything in the sky not just because it’s stealthy. It’s because you are an experienced and the top best pilot can fly the 5th gen fighters. But it also depends on how agile, fast and strength. Like F/A-18 super Hornet is a good jet to take out Sukoi Flankers but the SU-30SM Is made to K*ll the Super Hornet especially in a dogfight. The best way against a SU-30SM is an F-22. But it could also be both the jet and the pilot so he does kinda have a point. But In my opinion, depending on the jet like example JF-17 vs F-16 it’s definitely the pilot

[@curtisbartlett8170]

Fantastic maneuver 3:10. Saw an f-22 do the same thing a year ago in Texas at an airshow Dyess air base. Good vid. Thank you sir.

[@JAEUFM]

GS smacks a prairie dog with the trailing edge of his wing.

[@dmddoug]

The over-the-wing viewpoint is very cool. More of that please.

[@muratbozkurt5967]

What better way do we have to finish a stressfull day at work with a GS video!! Great fight btw!!

[@w0mblemania]

"No wing... that's how you know you're out." F-15: "lol".

[@LDSG_A_Team]

2:55 bro that was WILD

[@Mast3rWolf]

The canards go "quack" in france.

[@EmsThaBreaks441]

No conard quips then?

[@bc-cu4on]

Coin coin.

[@stinkyfungus]

3:04 And the ducks go "WTF?!" over the high desert in the US...

[@michaelfisher6881]

Dam you fly the paint off that aircraft. Impressive..

[@dvaritek434]

Delta wings do not stall, they just fall rapidly. Great fight.

[@AlexKowalski-ci6im]

This was the "falling leaf airshow" 😁. This display fits perfectly to autumn.

[@SuperTyrannical1]

No wing?!... "Tis butch a scratch!" 😁

[@malleusmaleficarum4572]

Of this European trio - Eurofighter, Rafale and Gripen, it is the French fighter that is the most beautiful, literally looking like a space shuttle!

[@williampremo2197]

The euro fighter and the rafale are almost identical

[@omgsrsly]

For me it's the opposite, the clean lines of the EF2000 makes it look sharp and streamlined. The rafale looks like a penguin with those stubby canards and bloated fuselage, especially from above. Also the non-retractable refuling probe is just dorky.

[@gbormann71]

​@@omgsrslyIt only looks bloated because of the wasp waist of French deltas on a relatively short fuselage. The buckled front end of the fuselage to accomodate the air intakes doesn't help to give it a sleek streamlined appearance. It's still an elegant and agile fighter.

[@N807DS]

@@gbormann71 Funny I actually find the Rafale much more graceful. In my eyes the EF is pure engineering whereas I see art in the Rafale's lines. Same for the F16 btw. It looks gorgeous after 50 years+...

[@thatoneguy1741]

Now you definitely need to fly the Rafale

[@viktor_v-ughnda_vaudville_476]

By far my fav channel on KZbin never miss a day of content

[@Rose_Butterfly98]

The last time you did this as the Rafale, you got one of the most awesome kill cams ever

[@samuelzuleger5134]

Would you look at that. GS is all grown up. All those years of F-14 differential thrust failures finally paying off.

[@mehmedbeklenen5059]

Delta Wings are looking very mean in the air with Sharpe nose ,eurofighter is My favorite tranche 4 of course

[@beatboxbuggi6884]

1:26 bro casually enters a flat spin, evens the fight, then leaves it at will and accelerates away without even saying anything about it

[@Gozar111]

Engine sounds inside the Euro fighter sounds like someone making sounds with a straw

[@DannyGatton94]

I can’t believe you touched grass with a freaking Eurofighter! 😅

[@anthonyross9276]

Thats crazy how those deltas can float like that!

[@ZachSawyer2077]

Nice moves with the differential thrust. Way to go Typhoon.

[@gawddamnnotthisagain]

Vectorhector. What a name.

[@Herb-o-ml2pq]

Looks like he flies pretty good also!! A worthy opponent 👍

[@gbormann71]

​@@Herb-o-ml2pqA worthy opponent indeed!

[@KarthanRouge]

"Battle Of The Canards" goes insanely hard, on skibidi extra drippy bruh.

[@truthseeker9454]

Two Deltas Dancing with Death in the Desert. Delightful!

[@o______opanasovych]

⁠man, this was just beautiful fight! Thank you for bringing to us a fraction of your masterness.

[@mhult5873]

The Eurofighters two engines, both of them: "Will you make up your mind!?" 😅 Thank you for another, as always, great video! Br

[@000-z8n]

It must be irritating to produce a great video like this, and to win, and then for people to be like "I wish you would..." But...I wish you would do more videos in which you switch aircraft. We *know* that you, GS, can generally beat almost anybody...but I, for one, would like to know more about which *plane* is better.

[@benokanruzgar8863]

Rafale is a F-18E competitor. Eurofighter is a F-15C successor. It is so obvious.

[@RonJeremy514]

More or less.

[@Julien33520]

Not even close to compare a Rafale with an F-dinausore...

[@tankm200]

Nuh huhh

[@1337MK]

Omg those Eurofighter Videos ❤

[@vized2415]

Rafale: Yes I got him in 1 circle! ...Eurofighter: SPIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIN

[@PureMatteo]

Rafale should have gotten a wide turn and accumulate energy to kill the EF now a floating feather. The rafale misread the energy differential and should not have tried to stay close

[@Mav09]

F/A-18E/F vs F-35C (Fox-2 fight) would be epic to see! Navy vs Navy : Old vs New Day 141

[@collin4592]

At 3:10 thats what us helicopter pilots call In Ground Effect 😂

[@andyvonbourske6405]

at 2:57 can you imagine the dust cloud that would create .

[@nilajjana84]

The European flying birds long awaited combat

[@nymalous3428]

3:03 Imagine being out hiking in the wilderness, and all of a sudden a Eurofighter trims the grass in front of you.

[@Stef3m]

Like the time people felt the heat of the afterburner during a fly by too low over a stadium

[@markus1351]

5:43 that ejection should be fine. Modern ejection systems are so called 0/0 capable, meaning even at 0 altitude and/or 0 speed you can get away safely. Only inverted needs like 20 meters below the aircraft.

[@andycarmo5203]

Not if you also have downward velocity added in. Conservation of momentum means the seat rocket can propel it away from the aircraft but can't automatically compensate for downward momentum too

[@markus1351]

@@andycarmo5203 most can actually if there is enough space before the aircraft, and it doesn't need much. You have an explosive that blows the chair off the rails and then a rocket motor that rights the chair and blows upwards, always

[@calimdonmorgul7206]

​@@markus1351On many occasions it was not enough unfortunately.

[@rangerrick8220]

Knowledge of the aircraft and their capabilities is so important!

[@Lee-sti8wrx]

Both beautiful aircraft, love how the Rafale has faster rounds coming out. That's what can kill you. Like I've said in the past, it's the only thing I don't like about the Euro fighter. It's slow rate of fire. Awesome video and both excellent looking and performing aircraft. Loved it.

[@gbormann71]

The French have learned their lesson, the lesson the EF had forgotten.

[@Серёга-щ2ь]

Fighting canards can kick ass falcons and eagles.

[@bugraylmaz408]

I think there will be similar battles over the Aegean Sea soon. **without fire** 😄

[@bitmanagent67]

Scorched some earth with that exhaust in round 1

[@barbarossa1234]

Outstanding! I love the Rafale!

[@arizonaav8or399]

Awesome fights! Love the super high alphas one circle fights!

[@jgl6793]

3:00 you sure kicked quite some FOD against the local fauna😂

[@TUROCK320]

1:25 is the most impressiv

[@JosephWen01]

I think he should be charged for setting a bush fire there!! 😂😂😂 Arson!!

[@jasonclaros7073]

Raptor vs Raptor with a skilled opponent. Pure skill match

[@old_guard2431]

Cobra at an altitude of 24 feet, six inches

[@M0oseTacular]

These delta winged fighters are like the drift cars of the sky.

[@poxic]

Ok hear me out... Gunpods on jumbo jets. 747 dogfight!

[@xXboingXx]

Missed opportunity: "This Rafale is putting up one Raf-hell of a fight."

[@JohnHill-qo3hb]

GS, "almost" only counts in three circumstances, hand grenades, cluster munitions and atom bombs. Good video!

[@Mr.Maus.Thunder]

2:58 crazy thats a hell of a save

[@lucax2300]

Hey, this Eurofighter vs Rafale is an epic matchup.

[@tzeffsmainchannel]

That was a *VERY* capable opponent!

[@mathieugariepy2948]

That Eurofighter turns on a dime!

[@brianmartin2172]

That 1st round was incredible!

[@ethangonfroy6721]

It's all well and good to show off your skills with Eurofighter But when will you pilot the Rafale ?

[@kamerona4723]

god damn, that first fight was crazy and the others were both really interesting

[@fattyMcGee97]

Eurofighter Vs Rafale is a beautiful battle of the kites

[@shy6892]

There was an old flight simulator called EF2000 made by Digital image design, you might like it growling

[@skyhorseprice6591]

Differential/Deferential🤣 thrust works _way_ better on the Typhoon than i thought it would, given that the engines are so close together. Great fight.

[@richardbradley2802]

Great fights, well done you!

[@Ace-rp7vr]

I never understood why people hate on the Rafale or Euro, like they’re both amazing aircraft and they have their pros and cons. Like can’t we just like both? :)

[@preppen78]

Rafale slightly better looking than the Eurofighter

[@Rokugou3224]

7:57 "YOU'VE GOT A HOLE IN YOUR LEFT WING!"

[@jreyman]

A pair of angry dueling Dorrito chips in the sky.

[@RonJeremy514]

Spicy doritos

[@Mr.DND-0]

Yo gang we need more of em a-10 gameplay, especially when you do the gun run💯😮‍💨love the content bro❤️💯

[@1stbn8thmar]

DCS is getting wild.

[@Spydr6684]

3:07 And now there’s a grass fire!🔥 🔥🔥

[@hesar1975]

close call from the cows on the ground xD

[@Raz.C]

I can't help but wonder - In that 2nd fight, around the 8-minute mark, if you were a navy airman, or an air force pilot, or what have you, I expect that you'd have done the exact same thing in a simulator, as you did here. However, if you were in a dogfight against a real enemy, I wonder, would you have tried to see if you could pitch down, in lieu of pitching up? I mean, if you can't pitch up anymore, just roll the aircraft 180 degrees and pitch down, instead. That might be the kind of desperate thing a pilot might do in a dogfight, rather than ejecting (possibly over hostile terrain). Anyway, I would LOVE to have seen how that fight might have gone, if you persisted after losing the ability to pitch up (by pitching down and then rolling, or rolling and then pitching down, whenever you needed to 'pitch up,' as it were)...

[@adioprotege]

I think I've seen this fight like 3 times over the last year and never from the Rafales pov

[@anes1240]

It’s a good day when growling sidewinder upload a video

[@Torashin1]

Great fight!

[@andydufresne431]

I am so impatient to see the dance of Turkish Kaan and Raptor over sky

[@tsepheletseka5115]

Nice. So since we're doing battle of the canards, next video should be Gripen vs Rafale, and then next one after that Eurofighter vs Gripen.