Data Science & Marcion's Gospel

[@urosnovakovic350]

Hi Mark, thank you for your amazing work! Is there anywhere one might find a reconstruction of Early Mark (Mk1)?

[@vocesanticae]

First Gospel LODLIB, vol 2 (Synopsis), all columns starting with "Mk1". I haven't yet extracted and concatenated these separately, since it's a work in progress.

[@urosnovakovic350]

@@vocesanticae Much appreciated! Didn't realize it's all in there!

[@dunk_law]

How can you analyse a flow of text if we cannot even get a firm dating method? Nongbri seems to putting plenty of range and doubt into established and flawed dating methods.

[@vocesanticae]

Dating fragmentary papyri based on carbon dating and scribal handwriting patterns is one approach. It is a different thing entirely to work backwards via source and redactional methods (greatly aided with computational/stylometric analysis) from 150-175 CE. At that point, there is general agreement that the canonical texts existed in largely stable forms, given that they are quoted in largely consistent ways by Irenaeus, Clement, Origen, et al. Have you thoroughly read my First Gospel LODLIB? Half million words of prose, charts, and tables unpacking all these matters in exquisite detail.

[@dunk_law]

It is just that for example Nongbri thinks that p52 could be an early third century fragment. Handwriting style is just not very precise and many of these witnesses are never going to have fragments incinerated for C14 testing.

[@dunk_law]

​@@vocesanticaewe already know that many of the fathers are coming to us third hand and the number of 9-11th cent copies are interpolated but there is nothing to trace back too. I will look at your work but as a software engineer I am a little skeptical at the moment.

[@dunk_law]

What is your base LLM ? Are you using Meltemi: The first Greek Large Language Model

[@vocesanticae]

Valid point.