Destiny 2: Datto's Thoughts on The State of the Game 2023 (Lightfall & The Year Ahead)

[@maxjohnson2640]

Finally, I now have an opinion

[@Fusible_1]

Yessir

[@ozzysmith2571]

Bailey? Is that you?

[@Ämyr2006]

Whats that pfp ?

[@anthonypotamitis7049]

@@Ämyr2006 it's Emile from halo reach. I think I m getting his name right at least.

[@afish8985]

@@Ämyr2006 emile from halo reach

[@morkka]

For patrol zones, I really hope they give us more like the revised Leviathan. While it certainly isn't necessarily very hard, but the mob density is very high, with plenty of special events and special spawns, etc.

[@Nick-82]

Mob density is high? Weird, everytime i go there to do the bounties theres 2 other people already in a zone taking all the enemies.

[@soraxstacy1477]

@@Nick-82 Its high compared to other destinations, its also very easy to do zone patrols and bounties due to the seasonal public event having near infinite enemies spawning.

[@Andrew-ry9be]

@@soraxstacy1477 it also may help that the Leviathan is small.

[@NamVu-ls1gr]

the special spawns are fun in theory but they are so rng, so trying to complete them sucks

[@chrisg8p]

@@NamVu-ls1gr wouldnt be special if it was ALWAYS availible...

[@gaynarchist]

Leviathan is by far something that should be their new standard for patrols. Secret bosses, scattered lore drops, collectibles, secret chests, hidden areas, high tier loot that is not the normal world loot, an entire area is a giant constant public event, high enemy density, etc.

[@boltactoinbarney]

Solid idea. The "full time" public event type activities are fun

[@gaynarchist]

@@boltactoinbarney yeah, I don't necessarily love containment but its issue was more that it's part of the seasons main activity rather than just what it is

[@xiphosmaniac]

i would be doing more Altars of Sorrow on the moon if they updated the loot poot to current weapons or atleast gave an origin perk to the moon weapons....Containment is what the moon has the potential to be

[@yourcaptaincal1169]

Endgame patrol zones are my big wishlist item. I'd love to see Titan revamped into a super deadly area with world bosses etc.

[@haeundaemoon7816]

I agree!! You reminded me, I loved running into Lucent Hive patrols during the first two weeks of Witch Queen. Almost no one was high enough level to consistently damage them. Having to team up with randoms on patrol to take down three Lucent Hive with boss-like health was a ton of fun.

[@pykeplayer4007]

@@haeundaemoon7816 brooo I loved that so much. Her throne world as a whole was so fun to explore. Gumshoe was so worth it

[@jayker5246]

Bro, that would be so huge!!!

[@failedrevolutionary9497]

I want there to be regions of control zones that have PvP enabled and/or where really tough bosses spawn and everyone needs to fight them together.

[@yourcaptaincal1169]

@@failedrevolutionary9497 Imagine if the eclipse zones on Europa were like that! The concept is right there!

[@proassassin8473]

Power and Pinnacle Grind going away for seasons is the best thing since sliced bread especially with Load Outs coming

[@00Grimreaper00]

That should of been a thing by now

[@zachstinnett5475]

Way better. I hated having to grind and not play what I like. It was silly.

[@fishnutz5196]

I like the grind at the start of an expansion but the seasons shouldnt need a grind. Im glad for that

[@stonehengeman]

Eventually. We still have to suffer our way through a damned grid in S20 at least and probably S21 and the usual dull climb…

[@fishnutz5196]

@@stonehengeman its an expansion. Just like any other mmo there will be a grind on an expansion. But there wont be in season 21.

[@zeckariah9833]

I liked the part where he talked about the state of the game

[@Kazuhira2249]

i liked the part where he turned the facecam on and said he had a script in front of him and that it was going to be a mostly audio based video truly inspiring

[@saltysalmn]

Me too!!

[@Fefe-1313]

hi zeck

[@aidenburnside6380]

@@Kazuhira2249 when datton does a facecam I use it to practice conversational eye contact

[@elijahaa]

@@aidenburnside6380 do you feel like it helps?

[@deKahedron]

The thing with exotic missions isn't that I want to play them all the time, but that they were exactly the sort of content that I would like to use to introduce friends to the game.

[@fantasyh5578]

Real

[@willard73]

Things haven’t been right since Edge Transit stopped dropping twice a day

[@drewvehmeier5658]

Instead, now we got Palmyra-B and Typhon GL5. I swear, every other Prime engram I decode is a heckin Palmyra! GIB MOR ARMOR PLZ RAWR!!

[@chloesilverwolf739]

Twice a day? Do you mean 10 times a day?

[@Mattznick]

good times

[@dafool]

When playing Gambit and Drifter flipped his coin and yelled, "Edge Transit on the field!"

[@joshn3579]

@@drewvehmeier5658 dont forget raghinald-d or whatever its called

[@rileyjensen8839]

The exotic mission rotator seems like a good opportunity to introduce some sort of targeted exotic armor system. Sort of like the exotic cypher quest from xur but you can actually pick a specific exotic you want once a week or something

[@HeroicLeo8125]

Congratulations you won the bot

[@imperialphoenix1229]

@@HeroicLeo8125 this is a certified bot moment

[@jiorodriguez1470]

Bro I think you won

[@AltNomad]

Thank you for teaching me how to feel. I can now fully feel the feels I’m supposed to be feeling

[@Hamish_Davis]

@@XxDakoXx20 I felt that feeling man

[@The_Worst_Warlock]

@@Hamish_Davis I feel you feeling what they’re feeling

[@artylols]

@@The_Worst_Warlock I too am feeling you feeling how they were feeling about dattos feelings

[@Mooseamation]

@@artylols I as well am feeling you feeling them feeling about how they felt about dattos feelings

[@passiveplayz7415]

great timing on the upload datto. theres a reason why i think u deserve to be at the very top of the leaderboards

[@liamgrabowski4356]

Got off of work and went “OOH GOODIE” :)

[@SeraphSancta]

You mention that you wanted to feel threatened in the Neptune city (I literally keep forgetting how to say and spell it), and I immediately thought about Halo ODST. Exploring New Mumbasa as the Rookie was a little scary sometimes

[@Vynirian]

Neomuna. Also, holy shit please bumgee, give us smooth jazz in the rain. please. bungo pls.

[@VanpyroGaming0]

Neomuna

[@redohealer2]

Who else remembers Salvage and Supremecy? I don't do a whole lot of Crucible but I wouldn't mind seeing those come back for anyone wanting it.

[@wiiwaremania]

Salvage would be great if they bring it back and much better OBJ than 3v3 rift. Such a D1 classic lol

[@FunnyBones25]

Supremacy was in D2 but it snowballed into a whole team hiding in spawn way too often and people started to hate

[@AlvaDeezy]

Salvage was my jam.

[@SymbioteMullet]

I'm still going to be banging the Combined Arms drum.

[@johnsmithson4479]

Even back in D1 Salvage was ruined by bubble spam, can’t imagine it’d be any better with how overbuffed abilities are now in D2

[@cookienook425]

i really appreciate these kinds of videos being divided into info and thoughts, it’s really nice when i’ve already read the article or watched a video or two about it

[@Spazzterz323]

Imagine if Patrol had a darkness zone or exclusion zone type deal where the enemies are raid level for cool patrol exclusive loot

[@beatman2359]

So like a Lost Sector?

[@johnsmith6314]

@@beatman2359 No like the Division zones

[@CiteWhyclosa]

Adept spinmetal leaves

[@frankiebigrings7048]

Exactly

[@henkaan7741]

I really like the sound of the difficulty changes. One of my favorite parts of playing a new dlc is getting to explore the new patrol area underleveled. Anyone else remember finding that brig world boss on Europa for the first time, and getting destroyed by it? If this means that at least some of that challenge will remain during the endgame then i'll be really happy. Next on the list should be to add huge world bosses that takes multiple players to defeat.

[@chalk1415]

They need to add an open world area which drops better gear but everyone is underleveled.

[@iamtheAppenedKaito]

Tbh I liked the upgrades that made running the seasonal activity easier. Like it was so nice to be able to just sprint through all the traps and have an instant shooty mcgabber thing in the door room. Always a fan of "yea I get it" upgrades

[@dekkonot]

I guess my thought is that like... If Bungie acknowledges that traps are annoying and nobody likes them, why would they include them to begin with? It feels cringe IMO

[@joelgray4403]

I loved Presage and would run it almost every week, was pretty bummed when it left, looking forward to getting it back

[@Conorp77]

Presage is coming back!?

[@joelgray4403]

@@Conorp77 yeah it was in the list for the exotic mission rotator

[@maxv658]

I never got to play Presage. That was one that came and went during my several year break so I'm excited to play it for the first time.

[@PatounesTR]

really loved the timed legend version it was a rush and it was fun

[@DiscordN7]

I am in the camp that say “Leveling is not content!” It can be in certain mmos but it’s always in major expansions that expand the main level cap usually by 10 or so I don’t mind if light levels increased every major expansions. But during seasons always thought it was just pointless and unneeded just to pad out content so guardians don’t comb through content too early. But I rather get into the new stuff and enjoy it at my pace then do grinding just cause. I think artifacts as our new grind levels between seasons is a good trade off to get that filled before GMs or Master content drops allowing that gate to entry to more challenging content more wider not making it easier just allowing to be able to attempt or get your foot in more easier. Lightfall’s era will be experimental and think it will be a step up from witch queen which I rather try something new than the same concept on repeat every season. Fail in doing something new and different than settle for middle of the road minimum effort similar content

[@M1R463]

Random Overworld bosses or "Legendary Patrols" would be pretty dope. Wherein we'd have things demand more of us as players. That'd make me start looking at Patrols more.

[@theironrifle6414]

heroic patrols with a boss exist on Europa and Throne World

[@nathaniel7165]

18:55 I felt this so hard when I’m doing spire carries having been like 60 seasonal level while all my lfg teammates were like minimum 150+

[@Broccoli_19]

A friend of mine is just getting back into destiny after not playing since basically the end of Forsaken. It is so hard to explain the seasonal model, crafting, sunsetting, the meta, exotic missions, resources, etc. I'm so glad they're making things simpler and more accessible without dumbing down the game for experienced players. Very happy with the simplifications and making things less convoluted.

[@cultok]

Good luck to that guy cause my god he missed everything good like me

[@michaelfilippino2392]

"Did you really play Presage every week for the love of the game?" As a matter of fact, yes I did. That mission was one of the first things I played in D2 after not playing for about two years. It made me completely fall in love with the game all over again. It was something of a weekly ritual for me and my close friend/clanmate. I was very sad to see that it was getting vaulted and I'm glad it's coming back. I think the true charm of Destiny is how unique the game can get with missions and overall content. So yes, I will be playing something like Presage for the love of the game, once again.

[@urazz7739]

Hell, they can incentivize people to do these missions by having one of them give pinnacle drops a week like how dungeons and raids rotate each week.

[@YuriG03042]

someone had to be this guy and today it was you

[@leoalpha7]

Shout out to Gambit. I love having the same gamemode since launch with very few changes. On a real note, I wish they would have at least considered a new map or something. I do genuinely enjoy the mode and it took a while to get adjusted to the "new" anti-melt mechanics for the Primeval, but if they are going to keep it as a serious core activity, they need to give the community a reason to treat it seriously.

[@HennyC.]

There should be different gambit game modes

[@Nick-82]

Is it weird i miss gambit prime and the armor bonuses? Felt like there were defined rolls and it was sweet.

[@pendragon5744]

What you say is sound but you also know that a greater part of the community hates gambit and that is why it is being treated like this ( Most likely anyway)

[@leoalpha7]

@@pendragon5744 That doesn't change the fact that it is still a core activity. I understand that a lot of people don't enjoy Gambit and I'm sure Bungie realizes this, but they need to commit to some changes to make it enjoyable to more players. Adding a new map might be enough to get some people to try it again, but I imagine it would take some groundbreaking changes to make people enjoy it as much as PvE or PvP.

[@pendragon5744]

@@leoalpha7 For sure, Bungie just gotta do it. It may take a variation of the game mode for that to happen.

[@ThePauloman80]

I 100% play the Seraph exotic mission every week at least once. When Presage was still around, I would average between three and five clears of that a week. It’s just a fun mission. If a mission is fun, there’s genuinely not that much stopping me from starting it over again once I’ve finished it.

[@Imperiex631]

I was squarely in the "let me craft everything eventually" camp. I wanted more crafted weapons. I have raided more than I ever have before recently because of crafted weapons and grinding the patterns out. I get people who miss the dopamine hit of getting a god roll but I would rather have a set goal of knowing that eventually I can craft the weapon and get the roll I want. Not to mention being able to experiment with different perks on the fly.

[@Castitalus]

IMO, the upcoming system should've been how crafting launched instead of a new loot system completely rendering random rolls obsolete to the point where I honestly thought we'd get fixed roll drops again.

[@fabolousjada5070]

@@Castitalus tbh for a new player like me that sucks the current system made me feel I can catch up fast smh their catering to hardcore players mostly .. this game will die out like warcraft and destroy itself

[@NobleVI_343]

Nah

[@cynthiahembree3957]

@@fabolousjada5070 I don't think you can even say that because we don't 100% know how this new system will operate because no one has had a chance to use it yet. The new player experience in this game is already awful I can't blame the devs even if they are catering to hardcore players because that is who is making them the most money.

[@jazay591]

Crafting is so boring. Getting deep sights is such a mind numbing mechanic that renders actual random loot obsolete. the leveling process is dull, why is there no interesting ways to boost it? Crafting has made the game much less interesting for me and I almost completely stopped playing the game during season of the plunder and half of seraph because getting loot was not engaging and fun anymore. Before if I wanted the best weapon in a slot id have to run GMs or trials with my friends and have some fun going for a giga god roll, maybe get a good exotic roll along the way, which is the most satisfying thing. Now I just go to a vendor 5 days in a row, and I have the best SMG in the game for PvP and PvE. Done. Nothing engaging or satisfying about it's like a list of chores that feels empty.

[@King_Crimson_]

28:50 I know this doesn't apply to a lot of players but I really enjoy the solo exotic mission experience, I love doing dungeons and raids with friends but the majority of my time is spent playing by myself and I want to do something which doesn't involve other players. So when it came to Presage I loved trying out different builds and loadouts and ran it every week on every character cause I enjoyed it, and I've been doing the same for Seraph shield (although personally finding it less enjoyable in comparison) and I like the slight challenge of doing it on Solo Legend to really feel like my build-crafting is worth something. WQ campaign was great IMO but for replay value I personally enjoyed Presage much more.

[@maxv658]

Same! My only issue with Seraph Shield was how long it was. Other than that I loved it.

[@BirdMoose]

I would love if Lake of Shadows becomes the uncontested hardest strike in the game, it would be absolutely hilarious.

[@Vynirian]

this would be Top Memes and i'm all for it lmao

[@Geechi_]

As much I really love having the perfect roll on a weapon I think the upcoming crafting system is going to be closer to what we should’ve had. Not only is there soo many weapons to craft right now but it’s to the point where almost no guns matter other than crafted ones. I’ve gotten 5/5 godrolls on seasonal weapons and deleted em on the spot cause it’s not crafted

[@derek3154]

Crafted is a good idea for testing different rolls that you want to try without the super stress of grinding mindlessly to get your GOD roll that you almost got except the MW is reload instead of Range😅. I personally think MW should be picked and added on to a weapon and not come already on it. It’s also great for vault space in that you don’t have to keep 5 different roles for what “might” be meta later when things get buffed/nerfed.

[@jordankelsall1036]

yo N8! dont say this shit on reddit. You'll get your ass nuked for it, AS i just did. FML. How people dont see that "crafted weapons" are the only weapons now is beyond baffling. Why should a crafted weapon be better than an adept nightfall weapon? It shouldnt. But they are. its so dumb.

[@connect32gm]

And you will continue to delete those unfortunately... the ability to enhance random drop weapons is for non-craftable weapons only if i read that part correctly

[@MrRBX]

@@connect32gm no it's for any random drop

[@connect32gm]

@@MrRBX from yesterday: "To allow these non-crafted weapons to stand toe-to-toe with crafted weapons in Lightfall, in the year of Lightfall more and more of our non-crafted weapons (starting with new raid Adepts this year) will have the ability to be enhanced."

[@Davon85J]

THANK YOU DATTO for talking about how bad Parrol zones are. That’s my biggest gripe with Destiny. I would kill for Bungie to take a whole season off to focus on improving the exploration and patrol zones.

[@ChrisProfrock]

I have only ever crafted 1 weapon and it's Brigands Law. I don't care enough about enhanced perks and I have always preferred the random drop farming.

[@taleem553]

Season of the Haunted: Oh no Scary hours Season of Plunder: Lol we’re pirates

[@thefunny3320]

thanks datto, now I can form “my own” opinion about the state of the game blogpost

[@babyduv3241]

All for exodus crashed being removed as a nightfall but inverted spire is a no go. Not only is it fun but it's also one of the rare strikes where you can still "melt" a boss since it's not health gated.

[@Enigma71559]

I would love to see Destiny do what The Division has done. You can change the difficulty of the "world" as you get more powerful. So as you get higher level, you can go in and change the "World Settting" to make ALL activities more difficult. Imagine PATROLS actually being a challenge.

[@Ankarua]

Only if they had representative loot for the difficulty level. I wouldn't want to be doing master patrols and getting blue drops.

[@smellycat57]

@@Ankarua wouldn't be able to get blue drops anyway

[@Enigma71559]

@@Ankarua Oh absolutely.

[@MrrrrMime]

tiger engine says no

[@ownagemester]

Me and the 7 other Gambit players: Why have you forsaken us?

[@Aj-py8en]

Tbf, if you enjoy gambit, chances are any changes would only make it feel worse (like every game mode change to gambit from the beginning) while if you don't like gambit, nothing is going to make you like it other than insane loot. If anything should happen, we need more playlists/game modes, especially endgame ones, to match nightfalls and iron banner/trials.

[@Linkman8912]

@@Aj-py8en iron banner is not endgame

[@JBinFL]

I'd like to see Prime back but there's only four of us.

[@phnx_tom5400]

@@Linkman8912 Sure it is. You need high powerlevel to damage others. As low level guardian you get fkd in the ass

[@Linkman8912]

@@phnx_tom5400 Uh, no. IB has not had powerlevel for a while.

[@BearToeWasTaken]

Honestly don't mind the long videos where you just talk. Some of my favorite GG/EZ episodes are your 2 hour long guest appearances. Cheers

[@Mercuratura]

I was running Presage twice a week every week when it was active. Some of that was to get all of the collectible and see the cutscenes. After that it was to help clanmates and because I enjoyed speed running that mission.

[@stonehengeman]

In patrol, we need to somehow recapture the feeling of fear created by the knights under The Cosmo in D1…..

[@Pattamatt1998]

Real. I have fond memories shooting one in the head the first time I played the game only to see [IMMUNE] and have it turn around and instagib me with its boomer.

[@MortuusTyrannus]

I was a hardcore player for years. I’ve been away for the last two years and wow is destiny different. It’s a lot to learn for someone like me. Don’t get me wrong, I’m loving it. Game is amazing right now.

[@spectreshadowgaming8568]

I liked the part where they forgot gambit

[@MrCaleb1354]

I was thinking the same thing when I read the article

[@totallyoriginaltbox]

I don't think they forgot, just that they don't care

[@Novafan]

As someone whos come into the game after about 7 years. wow, it is in such a great state that I really never thought this game would be.

[@byghostlight1]

While there a bunch of little things that annoy me, I feel this is the best Destiny has even been. Honestly the only time I ever hate something is when I am on reddit and are being told I should be hating something.

[@omensoffate]

Oof you must be new

[@martyk656]

IMO, Destiny was at its best, just before it was released. Open beta of D1 was a blast and the potential of the game was incredible. Then we realized they shot the wad before we even left the moon.

[@byghostlight1]

@@omensoffate nope Destiny 1, day one player, that makes me a grumpy old man sick of the kids whining about everything.

[@fabolousjada5070]

@@omensoffate yup I am and they should cater to us cause the amount of players playing aint getting no bigger soon destiny will have a small community if they dont cater to new players like ff14 did for me a few years back and take away the feeling of fomo

[@veralium]

omg thank you datto! I needed someone to think for me! :)

[@urazz7739]

I don't mind the number of craftable weapons as long as they aren't hard to get. This current season was pretty easy to get all the weapon patterns for this season compared to the past seasons. I was able to get everything a week before they announced the change to daily deepsight resonance weapon purchase on seasonal stuff. On the power level grind, I'm fine with it on the initial grind for a new expansion, but having it not be a factor in each season is completely fine. Also, the line about Datto line saying "OMG, I can't believe Bungie is getting rid of the least played destinations," at around 28:30 got me thinking that getting rid of that stuff was really wasted work really since Bungie could've added new things to these zones to attract players to go to them instead of removing them entirely. FF14 does this pretty well and has you go back to old zones a few times in each expansion it feels like.

[@FlashesSoccer011]

The red border grind needs addressed big time. It's way too dependant on RNG. The fact that they needed to even add a daily focus at the end is a joke. What they need to do is either reduce the number of weapons available, reduce the patterns from 5 to 3, or add the option to focus daily at the end of each season, and not at the end of the year.

[@SoccYT]

Yeah I don't get the take of blaming players for not visiting destinations. It's good to revitalize content to be relevant within a sandbox

[@FlashesSoccer011]

@@pee-pee_mama right? And not only did they change it, they doubled the amount of available weapons

[@SymbioteMullet]

Removing the least played destinations feels like a mercy killing at this point... Does anyone actually visit Nessus outside of Xursday? And Nessus alone has already had so much content ripped out of it...

[@cookies23z]

only thing id like changed from the craftable weapons is the 50 legendary shard cost, for people who have kept up it isnt sht, but for a returning player those 50 shards are a lot...

[@shadowstorm9363]

I understand that they dont want to make partol missions hard, but they can increase the enemies by 10-25 folds for patrols (since there are so many guardians in the instance anyway) and throw in a random chance to spawn a secret boss at times for an additional chest i guess

[@sol9318]

Seeing datto full cam is so funny, I love how expressive his hand motions are

[@nickg8100]

Two things I need for crafting: 1. An ability to filter by season 2. For crafted weapons to have a second perk column

[@tallhooman8050]

Love these sorta podcasts vids, but also even being a 5k sweaty pve'er in this game i still watch the seasonal guides you do just to be sure i dont explain it to friends incorrectly

[@TheManoDestra]

As someone who ran 1000 helps for Whisper/Zero Hour… I can tell you, I’m frickin stoked. If there was an exotic reward GUARANTEED from running these? Um yeah. Also, maybe they’ll have the random rolls at Xur for DMT/Hawkmoon in the list

[@anthonypotamitis7049]

3 months later I can say that Guardian Ranks are completely irrelevant. I've seen people who are at lvl 10 and 11 and completely suck and low levels crushing it. Some people just can't be asked to do some tedious tasks to increase their Ranks.

[@Freedom-kl8rt]

true..that's what I saw today...

[@TheVGWeekend]

I did not realize whisper and zero hour weren't in the exotic mission rotator... I'm sad now

[@traviswilliams2348]

"I make a video every season explaining how the seasonal vendor works and it does really well" Me, who watches them, even though I know how they work already 🤫

[@Sekironprime]

with the return of Countdown I'm hoping next year we see Crimson Days make a come back maybe with the addition of Strike Duo playlist

[@Jak_1999]

Just sucks, that they don't seem to plan to make a better entrance for New Lights still. The bad thing about it is, that if you didn't buy a DLC at the beginning and started the game it is just simply not playable. All the changes are well and good, but there is no reason for a new light to experience them, because after trying non DLC Destiny for just an hour they will turn away. Those are the reasons: *No captivating Story *No introduction into how Stats work *No introduction to Mods *No introduction to Emotes and Styling *Bad Interface for new Players (That means: The "Map menu" and the "Player menu" are just very confusing for new players, because they need to switch beween them all the time and it is not Intuitive why it is 2 different menus) *No descriptions what they have to do, after leaving in a Mission and getting back into the game on another day. *No introduction to Vendors exept the Standard ones (no Xur, no Dares) *No introduction to Open Raids *No introduction on how to get into or make a Clan *No explanation on what already happened in the game and where the story is *No explanation how to get Exotics (Lost sectors) Just wanted to put it out there, that it is frustrating seeing friends try out Destiny and getting crushed by an halfbaked introduction to the Game.

[@fabolousjada5070]

im new and I agree should be free until witch queen it'll give me time to play and get into it and lack of old campaigns make the story complicated and all over the place .. I truly think their focusing on their new game not destiny 2 the updates are subtle and aren't to great ... ff14 is good at this those are the 2 mmos I play now

[@Leap623]

I'm most excited for exotic missions returning not because I want to be grinding them repeatedly, but mainly because they're great for introducing friends to the game. They're challenging enough to actually push people to try and to worry about their loadouts, they have some of the best environmental set pieces in the game, they're typically light in terms of strict mechanics/DPS checks/etc. Dungeons are also great for that but only one isn't behind a paywall, while I'm assuming these will be made free.

[@Collin_J]

Right with ya, Whisper was the go to

[@cameronsalmon1314]

If people don’t have to watch “Seasonal currency guide” to understand how to play the game then they did a good job

[@b-mo272]

wow, them refreshing old strikes seems like a really cool idea, so hopefully we get those new strikes from the expansion and the refreshed strikes next season and hopefully the new changes to difficulty will make it feel better to engage with

[@Thatbeetle]

What Datto said about the older content needing to be updated to current levels is something i've been saying for a long time. Older dungeons are now so easy they're like wandering through a patrol zone, let's hope they get a look at.

[@ianxanthar7038]

My opinions have been formulated, thanks Datto

[@Mrexedyy]

As someone who loved Zero Hour, and had 200+ clears, and 100+ sherpas. I would love to bring these missions back. I understand I'm an outlier when it comes to stuff like that, but I love helping people with missions that seem impossible at first.

[@LilSpookyyy]

Jesus

[@Blackout-ff6ck]

11:11 I hope they bring back missions from D1 here too. If they brought the mission with praedyth in D1 back that would be awesome

[@Fanatiqual]

I was really hoping for elimination of power level when lightfall starts. I hate the power level grind, it is not fun and feels like a chore sometimes

[@NikFlyer]

Season 2 is not that far away though, we won’t have to wait much longer.

[@Ocachino]

IMO Power as a system should stay, although it should be adjusted. For one, I want the Season of the Deep change to be semi-permanent, with Power caps changing only on expansions.

[@failfurby]

You forget that D2 is an RPG and an FPS. Powerlevel will probably always be a thing because it's how you show progression and determine the difference between a fresh noob and a seasoned veteran.

[@memecrider3585]

@@failfurby what progression? To do raids? Compete in pvp? D2 progression is honestly a joke compared to Borderlands or any other RPG

[@Mythicalyst]

@@failfurby Don't we have the Guardian ranks now to tell that same difference? I'm feeling the same. Power level adds nothing to the game. It's only there to gate certain activities and it's not really necessary. You forget that this game is an RPG, and RPG's don't always have to be about dumb numbers like levels, instead they can be about dumb numbers like stability on a handgun or w/e.

[@v0id19]

The thing that concerns me about the seasonal engrams staying on the vendor, is that if they use the same system as crucible/saladin/gambit, we only are getting 17 engrams PER FULL RESET. That sounds like a major monkey paw moment

[@skanarkist2131]

More battlegrounds in the vanguard ops playlist. Yay 🙃. Also, making the playlist slightly more difficult does not make it more “engaging”. It just makes the 4+ year old strike feel like even more of a slog

[@cynthiahembree3957]

That's the problem though. They aren't even a slog with a somewhat competent group they are done in less than ten minutes while the whole group has their brain turned off

[@skanarkist2131]

It’s still not something that needed to get a difficulty increase. I wanna do my 3 for the pinnacle and leave. I don’t know if it’ll make that much difference, but still seems annoying

[@OMGLX]

My only concern with the removal of Power Level, which I think is a GREAT move overall and I look forward to their elimination or at least reduced emphasis, is the feeling of becoming more powerful than an activity WITHIN REASON. Walking into a Raid for the first time, being underleveled, pushing through the struggle, getting new armor, new weapons, consolidating tactics and then being able to farm it while shooting the shit with friends is a wonderful arc that might be somewhat flattened if power levels become eliminated. That said, I have a solution! And it's a system that's already in the game: mods and armor set bonuses. Raid Mods have been basically pointless for years now, and Raid Armor itself is basically just for transmog. I don't think it's a wild suggestion to want to have an Armor Loadout specifically for the Raid that makes me demonstrably better at the Raid, which I earned by being good at the Raid. Again, I don't want it to make the Raid entirely trivial, but it should be more significant than it is now, which is to say not at all.

[@just.some.dud3]

I feel like Raid Adept weapons should be better than crafted weapons anyway. Having to enhance Raid Adept weapons (which are arguably a lot harder to get than regular crafted weapons) to be "up to the same level" as regular crafted weapons is not a good feeling. That should probably have changed for the better but it didn't really.

[@diegocj02]

With the new system, they will be better. They will be able to get enhanced perks, and because they are adepts, they get the +3 in everything when MW and can have adept mods.

[@just.some.dud3]

@@diegocj02 they should be better without having to farm for rolls then craft them. They should just be better than crafted weapons. This will make the only difference marginal, being adept mods which in most case don't add up to much. Adept big ones being a very minor utility bump. They will be on par at best really unless something changes.

[@BiscuitTech]

The thing with the exotic missions is you're looking at it with the "elistist Datto" lens. My friend is playing once or twice a year, but when he does I really try to make him play those missions. Sometimes we can't because of power requirements, or sometimes just because he hasn't unlocked it yet. With the new rotator, I could safely tell him that the best missions in the game are there to stay and - and that is really important - he can play them whenever he feels like it, a year or 2 down the line. Yeah sure, we're playing D2 every single day and we get bored quickly of those missions. But there's probably thousands of really casual players that just want to experience those missions at least once. And if that one time is 2 years after release, well now they can.

[@zacharylinville4853]

Very excited about making people opt-out of chat. The amount of times I message the tower and nobody even chats is sad. Optimistic for more social opportunities

[@NobleVI_343]

Literally, I hate putting things in the chat and no one responds, in like any activity, which is hugely different when I play warframe and a lot of the game revolves around chat, and you can have a convo with a completely random person and either go on about your day or become their friend. The lfg discord has been the closest thing for me, but sometimes I like just having it be in-game.

[@Ysl489]

Regarding the exotic missions that left: I would love to see the seasonal weapons being the reward for the activity. For example: for presage: season of the chosen stuff drops. For seraph shield, season of the seraph stuff drops. And regarding the content that was sunset: I’d rather have the 9 strikes back, which they sunset rather than them making new battlegrounds. I personally enjoy strikes way more than the battlegrounds missions. Or I’d love to see the other d1 strikes come to destiny 2

[@TheRyman230]

It was fun to play Seraph Shield because the aesthetic is really nice and fun, but my favorite part of the mission is where I commit war crimes.

[@tankandspank5744]

Ditto if your looking for that “Oh Wow” moment take a time machine and go back to when you where 20 cause the older you get the less excited you get about video game innovation. Great video always love you takes.

[@joeliolioli4156]

Thank god this dropped when it did, almost watched a Fallout video

[@NobleVI_343]

😂

[@ChaoticD3sTroYeR]

Datto, my friend, my guy, my guardian guide....Clean your Mic Windscreen, it's just so present in my peripheral vision when I'm looking at ya. So many great things coming with lightfall, Hype!

[@slopezawesomness3598]

I’m excited for the the Mars season 19 Operation in nightfall form. The boss fight against Kelogorath reminds me of the dark blade strike in D1

[@arrowstrike1174]

I've had an idea for a while now; give each class a buff to their class stat. Each class gets an intrinsic 10% increase to their class stat with an additional 1% for every tier they put into it, up to a maximum of 20%. On top of that, they get an intrinsic ability that scales with their class stat tier. Warlocks begin regenerating health sooner at higher tiers, Titans resist flinch and splash damage, and Hunters get Sprint x2 where they double tap sprint and gain speed up to 2 times faster than the normal max. Like the amplified speed boost, but actually useful. I think this could also be added as class specific armor mods if making them intrinsic abilities is too powerful.

[@generalnawaki]

If, if LFG comes out where it matches you with people of similar skill and not just anyone, it's going to be a game changer.

[@GrayvesX]

I think patrol zones need varying degrees of difficulty. Have some areas that are easy enough for people to be able to actually play through the story, but have other zones have higher difficulty with farmable bosses and high level public events

[@FrostReach66]

W on most things, but relatively confused on WHY we can’t get more than one NEW crucible map and two old ones? Also no talk on gambit is a bit worrying, although it’s not like I play it anyways, but I think it’s always had potential

[@theonlyLoneWolf_]

The thing I'm really liking the sound of is the power and pinnacle grind going away on a seasonal basis. Like, I don't mind it for a major expansion as those are usually the times that feel like I'm supposed to be gaining power both literally and narratively. And also because it's the biggest influx of new content we get at one point so the grind just happens naturally as you play. But when it comes to each new season, I just want to have fun playing through the story beats for that season instead of it feeling like it's a chore because I now need to get 3 characters up 10 levels again to make sure I can tackle some of the hardest content in the game that I was already doing last season as I'd hit that pinnacle cap already.

[@skadi5804]

The Seasonal Keys sound very familiar... almost like skeleton keys... hmm... curious.

[@totallyoriginaltbox]

that was the first thing I thought of when I saw that

[@boat378]

Gotta say, the bgm cutting out when going off-script adds way more comedic effect than I anticipated. Edit after the video: Finally, the number next to someone's name actually meaning what it's supposed to. I had this level 3 in my Nightfalls this week absolutely crushing it and I just stayed in queue so I had someone competent.

[@ExtantJB]

Thank you Datto for the amazing assistance and direction you’ve given my life (I now know how to feel about the state of destiny 2)

[@R4z3rbl4d3]

I really hope they do fireteam finder similar to how party finder works in FFXIV, it would be really fun and help some of us work on doing raids.

[@cynthiahembree3957]

this would be nice honestly

[@edgetransit]

Now I know how I should feel about this update, Thank You Datto

[@firestar9946]

Datto's opinion gives hope in life because he offers a unique perspective on the game and life in general. He is known for his humorous and energetic commentary, making his videos not just entertaining but also insightful. He tackles various topics such as the meaning of success, the importance of perseverance, and the value of self-reflection. Datto's positivity and drive are contagious, and his ability to turn even the toughest moments into opportunities for growth and learning is truly inspiring. He reminds us that success is not a destination but a journey, and that the key to happiness is to focus on the present moment and make the most of every opportunity. His approach to life and gaming is a testament to the power of positive thinking and the belief that anything is possible if you put your mind to In a world where negativity and cynicism can often dominate, Datto's perspective is a breath of fresh air. He gives us hope in life by showing us that there is always a reason to smile, even in the darkest of times. He inspires us to be our best selves and to chase our dreams with determination and passion.

[@Vextral4653]

Seasonal ranks are good to show you who needs to touch grass and who doesn’t

[@konstantstompa9248]

Yeah man agreed on Neomuna, I hope it's kicking off from all angles at all times!

[@SkyAttacker52]

I like all the changes but I do wish they changed Seasonal content to account wide instead of character based.

[@JDxxxxxx]

Why? Just do the seasonal quest on one character that’s what I do.

[@NaritTeg]

I get what you mean about umbrals taking up a lot of inventory room, but I'm concerned with a huge downshift on focusable loot. You get way more umbrals than you do seasonal rep vendor engrams. If they scrap umbrals entirely and just have seasonal rep engrams, that's also getting rid of foundry focusing at the star map and stuff like that. World drops are going to be almost impossible to get a decent roll of.

[@fabolousjada5070]

exactly and its terrible for new players like me who likes crafting and finds it easier to compete

[@DrewK19]

Datto, would you slaughter your own clan for the sake of your village?

[@bryangamer4027]

In clash of clans? Absolutely

[@BLAPGames]

I'm excited about the exotic rotator mainly because I took a break for a couple years and missed a bunch of them.

[@CalixtoErico]

I like this, but it also give me the idea Destiny has become a huge cruise ship. Too large for its own good and which takes far too long to correct course.

[@GuyThePCGamer]

I did, in fact, play Presage for the love of the game. Used my DMT and played it with no HUD solo almost every week

[@Qu4r7zz]

I hope they bring back the Whisper or Zero Hour missions. People these days don’t know how to jump

[@totallyoriginaltbox]

Back in my day we had to jump across narrow edges while getting launched by taken buttholes and getting oneshot by taken vandals all while only having 5 minutes left to complete the combat and boss sections

[@iowanadventures]

People would just use eager edge sword and skip it all

[@OrificeHorus]

My favorite part is when the Speaker said "It's Lighting time" and Falled everywhere

[@MikeMcHargue]

"How are you rank 300 and so bad at the game?" Well, speaking as someone who is older and has a brain injury, some of us really struggle with much of the game. I love every move toward simplifying and streamlining. It helps a lot, and lets me keep playing a game I love with my friends.

[@JG54206]

Just wanna say thanks for the heads up about farming artifice armor. I had forgotten about that change going into lightfall and I never knew master caitl was such a juicy armor farm. I now have a full set on 2 out of 3 of my guys and my titan which is my least played is only missing a piece or two.

[@joegreenwood4642]

My opinion has dropped.

[@depraved2099]

Raid scale boss encounters in free roam would be sick