Daughter Kills Mother and Sister Before Framing Sister | Megan Hargan Case Analysis

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[@MM-hf6om]

I sometimes wonder why I don't feel the sting of favoritism. My mother had me at 15. She was a baby herself. So my grandparents decided to take me and let her build her life. She wouldn't have another child for 15 years. I think everyone assumed I would have problems with my baby sister. I would end up spoiling her more than my mom did . I've even had ex girlfriends assume I must hate my mom. I dont because she feels more like my older sister than my mom . My grandmother feels like my mom and what a mom she was. No salt at my actual mom but I couldn't have asked for more loving parents than my grandparents

[@lisarodriguez6966]

I'm glad all the people involved in making the decision for your long term care had your best interests at heart, including your young mother.

[@izzyortiz503]

That was very sweet to read. Safe to say, your grandparents did a great job raising you.

[@catseatcookiessofiagacha5210]

❤️❤️❤️

[@dankadesign7462]

👍👏👏❤

[@elizabethCorkins83]

👍🏻

[@elanahammer1076]

This is exactly why if you come from a family with some toxic members. It is best to disengage and walk away. You cannot reason with crazy, entitled people. Trust me, follow that voice that has been telling you to get the blank away from them since you were a kid. Thank you 🤔❤🇺🇸

[@2legit2Kwit]

Amen. I keep in touch just enough to not be detected as a detached member. I call it “small dose” theory

[@elanahammer1076]

@@2legit2Kwit Smart. Fly under the radar and not be detected. Lol thank you 🤔❤🇺🇸

[@glauvie]

Done and done. Happier and happier.

[@whenthebestlackallconvicti5559]

They resort to narcissistic abuse.

[@GrooveyBobby]

I did this, walked away felt sad at the time, happy now 😊

[@PyrPupMom]

I was the difficult child, but one thing my parents did right: I never felt like they showed favoritism to either one of us.

[@powderandpaint14]

All kids are difficult in one way or another! I think we should start acknowledging that.

[@Mikenas213]

So what does it mean if your parents show favoritism toward the difficult child?

[@Astepole]

@@Mikenas213 the parent is themselves high-conflict, impulsive and immature or they find purpose in being constantly needed to patch over someone's issues. Either way, it's a giant red flag for some deep-seated issues.

[@NeeNee_B.]

​@@powderandpaint14that's not true, one of my 4 nieces is 17 now, and has been an angel. The other 3? Not so much 😂 but it's definitely possible to not be a difficult child. My father tells everyone I was a breeze to raise. My brother and sister? Not so much lol My 3rd sister is somewhere in thr middle

[@loki2240]

​@@NeeNee_B.- True. One my sisters didn't create any problems for our parents. She had minor asthma, but of course that wasn't her fault.

[@jenn8179]

How could Helen not call the police for an hour and a half?? Or get out of the house? What happened to Megan's daughter? She was in the house too? After her mom killed her grandma?? Its unbelievable!

[@sandangels73]

Question #1: Fear and extreme anxiety. Some people's first instinct is to call a loved one, not the police, in extreme circumstances. I was wondering about the status of the 8 year old daughter the whole time too. That had to be extremely traumatic.

[@joedennehy386]

@@sandangels73 not calling the police immediately was in this case fatal

[@sandangels73]

@@joedennehy386 I know, but I was explaining why sometimes people don't.

[@bonnielee316]

Probably because she had a gun on her and she couldn’t. Carlos told her to get out of the house and she said, no. She said that she stayed because of the niece. So maybe she wanted to get to the niece and take the niece out of the house but Megan was talking with her and holding a gun on her. Or, sometimes those narcissistic family dynamics makes them feel like protecting their own. Maybe she figured to get the niece out and let Megan have a running start. You never know. Just a thought.

[@CrystalBbyUSA]

@@bonnielee316 I'm confused by the last paragraph. What do you mean?

[@missyskye_sea_land9424]

My heart is very heavy whenever I listen to conflicts within families, and this sort of unthinkable actions against a mother is just beyond shattering. At some point in my life, I realized that I’m extremely naive; I really didn’t have any idea that narcissism, sense of entitlement, disrespect, lack of empathy, irresponsibility, greed, etc. are so common in people… it’s so sad for Pamela and Helen😪

[@wot4me2]

Sadly, I've come to live by this mantra: trust no one, and never be disappointed.

[@pinktights747]

Missy, well you are no longer naive.... you've been enlightened. Good for you.

[@joincoffee9383]

When you grew up with toxic narcissistic or borderline parent , you tend to be naïve like that.

[@pm2886]

Consider yourself blessed, as it means you don't have such people in your life.

[@pm2886]

@@pinktights747 There's nothing good about "losing naivety". And it's not naivety, it's healthiness.

[@kimberlyhackney8190]

Favoritism is real, but if you grow up even non well-adjusted, no excuse to kill your parents or your siblings! My Dad didn’t like me by the time I was thirteen! All my siblings inherited, but not me!

[@mikimiyazaki]

Were you a bad kid? Just kidding lol thats fcked up.

[@aminkuah5379]

@Kimberly Hackney no matter what kind of person you were, inheritage should include all members of the family!! .I am sorry for what you have been gone through.

[@butwhytho4858]

I hear ya. I’m the targeted one in my family. My sister does terrible things while I fight everyday to prove I’m worth, even to myself now. I’ll never be liked as much and I’m learning to separate myself from that thinking. I’m sry you went through that. And no. Of course there’s never ever a reason to kill someone outside of self defense, but inside, I get why it happens. I figure most of the time, escape from the hurt starts, then ways to end the trauma. I think it probably turns into a fantasy for ppl. At that point, all it takes is a trigger or a moment of dissociation. It would be helpful to everyone if we could get ppl help before it’s too late. A LOT less ppl would be dead around the world due to mental illnesses and emotional trauma. Ah well. Here’s hoping one day that society decides to put more emphases on ppls emotional state.

[@BlessedbytheKingofKings]

That is awful!! parents shouldn’t never show favoritism ever. One of my children is more responsible than the other but they will get 50-50 of anything I own and while I’m alive it is always 50-50. Favoritism is a sin and it destroys families.

[@sunnycatc6491]

Same here. I'll bet you stand out in some way above your siblings. And no need for us to take revenge; later in life Karma steps in. Just live your best life and watch 😀

[@angelatheriault8855]

Maybe the mother did help out Megan when she was younger. She was still helping her out by allowing her and the granddaughter to live in her home. I find it odd that Megan only had $30 to her name when her husband was employed and she had no household expenses. I don’t understand how she thought she was going to get away with using her mother’s financial info to buy a house. It’s not like her mom wouldn’t find out and wouldn’t her own husband question it as well?

[@chivasmom2024]

Agree. The mother most likely helped out Megan over and over again. That is what usually happens with people that feel entitled, that have mental issues. The mother then had Megan and her granddaughter move in, where the child could get the support (food, clothing, shelter, etc.) she needed. She was supporting them both, and obviously did not realize the lengths Megan would go to to get what she wanted. Megan likely would not accept a "no" from her mother. Helen, being the baby of the family, likely was an empath and felt responsible for her niece too. Plus we have no idea what Megan said to Helen, to make her hesitate. TG Helen did call someone, otherwise this may have turned out even worse.

[@zenawarrior7442]

Hard to fathom how people can kill each other, but entitlement/narcissism plays a role in most murders. Great points as always. Thanks Dr G😊💜🤍

[@mikebrown5191]

Is there any peer reviewed research linking narcissism to most murders? My psych and criminology professors must have skipped that chapter. 😂

[@zenawarrior7442]

@@mikebrown5191 Oh let's see it's probably the 5 million YT crime vids, (alot made by doctors of psych), 2 million TV shows, that prove it. But if you need 8 million psych papers beyond that, feel free. Narcissim is a touchy subject I understand for those who lean that way, don't understand its many forms & shades, or never experienced the abuse from it😉

[@bthomson]

Zena - I so much agree with you self-centeredness and lack of empathy are almost always present in murderers! How can they feel it is their right to end another person's life?

[@zenawarrior7442]

@@bthomson Hi friend.😊 Thanks. Exactly. Lack of empathy is narcissistic. We can call it sociopathic or other things but they all fall under that umbrella. How can anyone justify a murder unless 100% self defense (they rarely are). The entitled, rude, sarcastic, uncaring in our society are all too prevalent unfortunately. Hope you have a great wknd!! 💖💛🌵🍁🌻🍨🌜⭐

[@cottontails9003]

@@mikebrown5191 Perhaps you need to retake them!!!!!!!

[@artphotognh]

The good Doctor's humor is absolutely priceless! There's always a clever line that makes me burst out laughing, which is an added bonus since the topics are interesting in and of themselves.

[@darleneww3670]

His dry wit is priceless!

[@malimalou751]

The topics are interesting? They are rather tragic!

[@npcperson2158]

Don't encourage him. People are dead.

[@cottontails9003]

Good morning Dr Grande. What a selfish, greedy and all round entitled woman. I'm so pleased the police finally got it right, this enabled liar should spend time in prison. My sympathy goes too the rest of the family and loved ones. Thank you Dr Grande. Brilliant analysis. Tragic outcome and informative topic.

[@bthomson]

Good day CT - Always great to see your comments! Hope the family is doing well! 💐

[@cottontails9003]

@@bthomson Thank you my friend. Everyone is good 💐💒💒

[@shameronstar7220]

The evidence was pretty obvious. They would have to be particularly incompetent to not get it right.

[@mikimiyazaki]

"spend time"? You mean from now on right?

[@elizabethCorkins83]

👍🏻

[@icturner23]

Poor Ashley, losing her mother and both sisters all at once.

[@spicyirwin5835]

She is vulnerable rt now & users will see this & try to take advantage of her by telling her everything she needs to hear. Hope she has someone who really has her best interests for her well being💜🙏💜

[@djrx2]

It’s a good thing she wasn’t in the house when the killings happened.

[@harrisindustries314]

The audacity some people have to think they can get away with such things, blows my mind.

[@olilumgbalu5653]

There was a comment about how giving all 3 sisters half a million would have avoided all this. That person should read up on the case of Nathan Carman who murdered his grandfather for a half million inheritance, squandered that in no time then murdered his mother to collect the remaining 7 million (rather than just work for a living, obviously). Some people are just lazy, greedy, etc.

[@Over50withWellaBelle]

Scary. I come from a extremely dysfunctional family. I am the scapegoat and I live thousands of miles away from the rest of my family. My mother has used triangulation so everyone is at odds with one another. I have one normal sister, and two dangerous sisters. Their specialty is lying about people usually men and charging them. I fear this type of thing is more common than we realize in that they get away with hurting others.

[@JDoe001]

When a parent shows favoritism, that parent is not innocent! The assault that behavior inflicts on a child’s psyche is real emotional abuse!! And to think that abuse is carried out on a child his/her whole life with that parent, it is unbelievable there isn’t more murders! Not all children are strong enough to bear it! 😠

[@valentinakren8816]

Exactly the mom here was evil that is traumatic

[@alicewonderglass679]

It’s odd the sister didn’t call the cops, like super odd. I wonder where the grand daughter was during this time. I hope she is ok and manages to deal with all this. Jealousy is such a strong and damaging emotion. My son is with a girl whose mum bought her sister a house and left her homeless. I think I better keep an eye on the situation. 😮

[@anniegaffney8378]

Bought her a house and left who homeless???

[@Dwightstjohn-fo8ki]

@@anniegaffney8378 her son's girlfriend. I've seen that, too: the "independent one" gets nothing, the clingy one gets taken care of even into adulthood. It's a conditioning process of some kind.

[@btetschner]

I don't think it is odd at all. Hellen probably though there was 0% chance she was going to make it out alive and that a call to the police would only give her less time to live.

[@malimalou751]

Not clear ! Who bought what to whom! Who was left homeless?

[@xagon2012]

Today's question is: Can I analyze this video? Remember, I am not diagnosing this video, just speculating about what could be happening in a video like this. Now moving to my analysis: Another interesting and insightful video by Dr. Grande. I hope you found this comment informative. Thanks for reading.

[@a.m2707]

🤓

[@nebraskafrankcourtny]

I like pickup trucks, but my friend who has one told me not to get one, because: "Friends & family constantly ask you to help them move, or pick up a new piece of furniture, etc."

[@xminusone1]

On the other side, it's a good way to learn to say no.

[@mariagabrielle6383]

@@xminusone1 Or help out friends & family.

[@brianbauer2595]

It's always so sad, when a person does something like this over money.

[@anniegaffney8378]

Or over anything

[@emmagatewood3898]

Favoritism sucks. Being rejected by your mother sucks. That type of toxic family dynamic can really do deep and long lasting damage. I would know, sadly... But that's not an excuse for murder. The mother's money was hers to do what she wanted with, period full stop. If your mom/family sucks, the correct course of action is to accept the reality of the situation. Grieve the loss of the family you should have had, and maybe get some therapy to help you with that grief. You can put up some boundaries with your family, or you might even want to go completely no contact with them. But you don't steal money from them, and you sure as hell don't kill them! Honestly, I suspect there may have been valid reasons for Pamela to treat Megan differently. Check out her picture at 3:42 ...that is not the face of a healthy person. That is the face of someone who is either on hard drugs and/or has serious mental health issues. That face, combined with the huge sense of entitlement that needed to be there in order for her to steal hundreds of thousands of dollars, makes me think Dr. Grande's analysis is spot on.

[@Dwightstjohn-fo8ki]

I owned a moving company and did a lot of direct help with womens' shelters. One customer that became a friend for years was a long time heroin addict and said simply: "Addicts are SELFISH people first".

[@emmagatewood3898]

@@Dwightstjohn-fo8ki That is sadly so true. Addicts are selfish people first. Their addiction will eventually take priority over everything and everyone in their lives.

[@anna-rosephipps3132]

Agree with every word

[@Trouble_Bubble36]

You can’t prove that she was on drugs.

[@rt66vintage16]

@@Trouble_Bubble36 why would she want to buy a house with the 400k if she were a vagabond, messy type?

[@reneewhitfield2913]

A few things: Why was Megan so bad off with a husband in the military? Why was she not living in base housing? Why didn’t Helen’s boyfriend call the cops after the first phone call when she said that her mom was dead? Helen had access to a phone why didn’t she call the police or leave? If she had her phone I doubt she was being held at gunpoint. Such an odd case for sure

[@mnem6453]

Helen asked her boyfriend not to call the police. For some reason. He only called when Helen stopped replying to him

[@rullmourn1142]

The trial concluded with the jury's recommendation that Megan Hargan must serve life in prison for both murders. Her sentence hearing is slated for October 28 this year.

[@gabe-po9yi]

It looks like Megan also had a problem with the sister’s boyfriend getting to live in the free house. Maybe her being married (and sis not) also contributed to the sense of entitlement, along with her having a child and Helen didn’t.

[@wrmlm37]

I can only imagine what it must be like in a family where there IS an obvious favorite. How sad for her, and for the fact SHE was dependent upon her Mother, who may have held Helen as a favorite. I am so sorry for the family remaining behind.

[@jameskimpan519]

Hi Dr grande,hard to believe that in this time and age people still think they could get away with murder.

[@anniegaffney8378]

Some do

[@theovolz3073]

Why on earth did Helen not call the police?

[@lisaa.4667]

She might have been afraid for herself and her niece, and she called the person she trusted the most - her boyfriend. It turns out there truly was much to fear.

[@joedennehy386]

@@lisaa.4667 all the more reason to call the police immediately

[@michellethompson5638]

Carlos should of rang the police after speaking to Helen

[@darleneww3670]

@@michellethompson5638 He did several times. LE gave him the runaround because he was calling from Texas.

[@rejaneoliveira5019]

It’s just heartbreaking to see the callousness of Meghan with her own mother and sister. Many families have issues and I think it takes a great deal of generosity and humility to let go of past hurts, but finishing her immediate family in this cold manner is absolutely incomprehensible. Thank you for the analysis, Dr. Grande! Happy Friday and I hope you have a lovely weekend ahead.❤

[@annal7364]

😂 Did you carve a cact-o'-lantern for Dr. G?! That is awesome. You've gotta be his favorite fan now, if you weren't already! 😉

[@rejaneoliveira5019]

@@annal7364 Lol, thanks Anna! Yes, I did carve it myself.😅😁

[@bthomson]

Wow! Did not notice the cacto-pumpkin! How cool!

[@ohdear2275]

I can only magine the heartbreak for the other sister, Ashley, who wasn't there that day. She lost her mother and both sisters through this heinous murder.

[@osksome]

1.22M - well deserved - subscribers. Thank you, Dr, Grande for your insigthful videos!

[@bthomson]

I would add "well deserved" back in?

[@xminusone1]

He was trying to say - well deserved -

[@mariagabrielle6383]

-well deserved-

[@justhere4697]

Well deserved 😊 absolutely 💯 correct... Your line is ignorance

[@osksome]

I was trying to say "1.22 M - well-deserved - subscribers" but KZbin automatically read it as -well-deserved-

[@NickvonZ]

Being a Veteran Police Officer, I can attest to the fact that murder investigations can, indeed, entail a substantial amount of work.

[@darcymoon2109]

Best to focus on that then and back off the speeding tickets and harassing teens.

[@NickvonZ]

@@darcymoon2109 Some folks REQUIRE speeding tickets to give them incentive to drive SAFELY and OBEY the LAW. Some don't. "Harassing teens"? What the hell are you talking about?!? Never mind. I don't care.

[@kayakingirl7252]

@@NickvonZ I think you triggered Ms. Darcy 😂 I have a feeling she's been " harassed" by the police on more than one occasion 😉

[@NickvonZ]

@@kayakingirl7252 I do believe you have hit the nail on the head! 😸👍

[@ohdear2275]

Thank you, Nick Z, for your service. Law enforcement has to be one of the hardest jobs on earth and you don't get the respect, the pay, or the appreciation you deserve.

[@RinpochesRose]

That was a story right out of Shakespeare.

[@rullmourn1142]

The middle sister, Ashley, testified for the prosecution against Megan

[@theskeletonsskeletons9495]

"Please blame me?" Who in their right mind would say something like that when being interrogated. This sounds like a grandiose, disconnected personality ... on a lot of creepy levels.

[@janinemccartha1811]

Hi Dr. Grande. Sounds like another, I agree, case of selfish entitlement. Psychotic & Narcissistic people have no empathy or integrity. I hope you see this comment because I usually don't get a reply except for someone saying to post it to another ? Peace, Love, Janine Smiley✌👍☕🍩☕🥧☕🍰🦓🦄💎💍⌚🛁🛋

[@sabinegroe2006]

I can’t comprehend how she could even consider of getting away with it! Yes, entitlement / narcissistic reward and anger apparently

[@Blissfulnessence]

My question is why didn't Helen call the police? I guess it's possible it was to protect Megan's daughter, but... Real head scratcher.

[@chillertheater]

Besides your many talents, Dr., it is amazing how well you know your firearms.

[@corn_pop6082]

And his pickups.

[@BenState]

'merica

[@katharineschott9125]

I love your videos, Dr. Grande! How do we know that Pamela did not give Megan a house when she was just starting out in her 20s? Megan may have received the same "gift" that Helen received, but may have squandered all that she received. It is likely, however, that Pamela was not yet financially able to give such an expensive gift to her older daughters, 20 years ago.

[@TheBOG3]

I think she did help out the oldest daughter that murdered her. That daughter to me looks like she's on drugs. That might be the real reason she did what she did. To get money for her habit. Not for a house. She lived back and forth with the mom and her own husband, she didn't need a house. I think the mom figured she'd somehow squander the money on drugs or whatever. That's why she didn't want to help her out anymore.

[@kdaze10]

@@TheBOG3 that makes zero sense. The facts show she was attempting to purchase a home with her mother's money ...pretty sure if drugs were involved, they would have been brought up. Lol

[@TheBOG3]

@@kdaze10 Her family knows about the drugs and escorting she was involved in. It was brought up in the video about the escorting and how her mom was threatening to have her daughter taken away. I don't know why they didn't bring up anything about her drug use though.

[@anniegaffney8378]

Interesting point

[@malougalimba6000]

My daily dose, can’t imagine life without your videos Dr. Gande! ❤️👍

[@browniehendricks3726]

I agree

[@ladymuck2151]

I feel sorry for the sister who was away. She lost 3 loved ones in one go

[@TheBOG3]

That's the middle sister. The oldest one is the murderer.

[@Vamatt99218]

Older sister= megan, the killer.

[@lunaskope9253]

Ever though of doing ASMR dr Grande? Your voice is really soothing - very nice to listen to while going to sleep ^^

[@greenfacere210]

Yes please, his ASMR channel would get so big

[@illuminaughty2929]

Always love and treat your children equally to prevent any hard feelings

[@jamiclarkson5009]

Do just one really great feels good story. Like "they married and died of old age together all their kids love them and are successful". You know no pesky murder part

[@mikebrown5191]

I think that would be a great start to the kind of story where someone makes a chilling death bed confession. Then you find out about the pesky murder!

[@robinmaynard1640]

But just one!🤣🤣🤣

[@bthomson]

This story with the background being that beautiful closet of gorgeous shirts!

[@ianpeddle6818]

No wants that, I tune in to seek daily affirmation that my evaluation of humanity is spot on. Dr Grande never disabuses me!!

[@user-xz8ld2tq3u]

That's a different channel

[@jadestorey5142]

The lesson here is to not spoil one child and leave the other out, resentment builds up and people snap. It really does cause catastrophic damage to a kids emotional development when they grow up in the shadow of their sibling(s).

[@FatRescueSwimmer04]

I love how Todd is low key absolutely hilarious lol. Such a rare trait amongst someone so technical. Well done Sir

[@drakedrones]

When people feel entitled and are greedy, they have no love left.

[@nomopms1]

Greed, jealousy, and self-entitlement. What an all-around waste of life. I can see why mom didn't buy her a house. She wasn't doing anything to improve her life.

[@israelpatriota]

How come Helen didn’t call 911 🤦🏻‍♂️, instead of the boyfriend

[@AnneBoleyn-qg5pj]

Good morning Dr Grande. So nice to see your sweet face this morning, I watch you everyday and it's like seeing an old friend. Thank you

[@grumpyoldlady_rants]

“Greater love has no one than this - that they lay down their life for another”. Helen truly gave her life because she feared for her niece. Megan not only destroyed her life but that of her young daughter.

[@AKbaby89]

I'm so grateful none of my siblings killed me 😳

[@lisamcdonald2877]

I was not sure Ì wouldn't get shot by my sibling after our mother died. Yet, here I am.

[@CL-lo4wd]

I love the add with the shot of all your shirts in the background. As always, another brilliant analysis and a great Friday night spent bingeing your videos!

[@elizabethwarman9028]

Enjoyed the video Dr. Grande. I believe playing favoritism in families is sometimes common. Unfortunately nothing good comes from favoritism. Take a look at Josh Duggar.

[@eadweard.]

Sometimes common?

[@bthomson]

Oh eb! Keeping us logical at all times!

[@serenity1255]

Sometimes the situation is complicated ie parents have spent a lot on said child over the years and were tired and they are giving the other child same opportunities. An example is one child went to college and always been on straight path with no issues vs you have bailed out another child numerous times and paid off a lot of debt etc. So it's not that they are playing favoritism it is that one child has squandered their opportunities. If I have bailed you out to the tune of 400k and decide to buy a house for other daughter it shouldn't be an issue.

[@rt66vintage16]

@@serenity1255 yes, this is an excellent comment, but I still feel guilty that I bought one child a house and not the other two. It didn't work out, of course, and I took a big loss when I sold it.

[@jedmarino7812]

And R Kelly

[@mistrjt9213]

“Perhaps she was wearing socks because her feet were cold.” 12:21 This is another great one for the book of Toddisms. 😂

[@chikacherrycola9189]

Dr. Grande? Your ‘Detailed Explanation Of The Firearm’ Is BEYOND Informative (I know NOTHING🤯) It iIs One Of The MANY Reasons Your Podcasts Stand Out ABOVE The Rest🎃🎃🎃

[@debbiedragone1451]

I am a long time listener, first time commenting. One day I would love to hear Dr Grande talk about exculpatory and inculpatory evidence by saying something like, “ really, do I need to list the reasons why I think he/she is guilty!? “ and then add some sarcasm to top it off!! Keep sharing Doc!

[@christinley5213]

Man thats so scary!!!! I guess the bright side is we can just try to learn from these horrible situations to better prevent them!

[@bassroulette8054]

Dr. Grande, could you please consider covering the case of Junko Furuta? I'd be very interested to hear your analysis of the crime, as well as your theories as to the mental status of the four men (and countless friends of theirs) who took part in what I, and many others, consider to be one of the most horrific crimes ever committed against an individual. Junko Furuta was a 17 year old Japanese woman who was randomly abducted, held captive, and brutally tortured for 44 days before ultimately succumbing to the countless injuries her tormentors inflicted upon her. It still seems like a lesser known case outside of Japan, and I'd really like to see it get more exposure

[@thestraydog]

It's such a heartbreaking crime, I've seen a few videos covering it and it's never easy to hear how those monsters tormented her.

[@THE-id1by]

Did she ever hear of 911? Why did Carlos have to call from Texas?

[@Prophezora]

Probably part of her plan

[@Kimberly1Lily]

That's a very important question!!! Why was Helen protecting Megan? An hour and 45 minutes is a long time to be hiding in a closet with a cellphone.

[@annedolan3050]

She probably never imagined her sister would actually kill them both.

[@aminkuah5379]

A huge number of parents don't realize the importance of treating all their kids equally. This include emotional and financial equity. If a child minutely felt he isn't being treated as his brothers or sisters, we can say that the parents just created their own hell. Consequences will appear years later and the parents will not be able to understand the hard situation because humans forget all the time. No one can live with injustice, especially from parents.!!!

[@IMWeira]

I think the misery was handled really even handed. I left at ,17 and my little sis married at 16. My mother kept telling lies to people about how evil we were until she realized nobody believed her. At 53 she checked in to a mental health facility and never came out. Bet she drove the staff to find other careers to follow.

[@elisabeth400]

Maybe Megan was narcissistic and bad from the beginning? Psychopaths are born not made...

[@aminkuah5379]

@@IMWeira well Bonnie, this is how god's laws work. If you made injustice to whomever might be, eventually you will get punished in a certain way!!. It might come late but it will come. What goes around, comes around.!!

[@aminkuah5379]

@@elisabeth400 I don't agree Monika. Psychopaths are made by bad parenting methods. If you ask a simple question it will become clear as crystal. Why Megan and not Helen became psychopath??. They have the same mom!!. All babies born with innocent souls till they go through life situations which might include some injustices that will eventually influence them to perceive the world as a dangerous place.!!!

[@mariagabrielle6383]

Life isn't fair. Everyone needs to get off of their victim pity party, grow up & get a life! There's a narcissist epidemic out there because people refuse to be accountable. This is a hotbed for tyranny. Buckle up, Brandon!

[@brownie7123]

Love your videos. They’re a perfect blend of forensic analysis and dry humor. 💕

[@erikamccarthy1457]

10/23/22 Why didn’t Helen call 911 instead of Carlos(baffled). Megan was Oldest was married & had a child, but no job! She felt her Mother should be helping her! Helen maybe thought she could save her niece. Pamela, you deserved better, rip🌹

[@gritsNgravy-fn5ic]

I just LOVE Dr. Grande ! His subtle digs are HILARIOUS ! Most of all, I love his quiet, unassuming way with words.

[@Andreamom001]

So sad that Helen didn’t leave or call 911. I wonder why she didn’t grab her niece and run.

[@mandycaz5562]

Why the heck didn't Helen call 911 too?!

[@chivasmom2024]

Megan likely threatened her and others (Megan's own daughter too?) if Helen called the police. Helen would be totally in shock by this whole event, and everyone has different reactions when in shock. This was her own sister...how does a young person accept the change from loving sister to cold blooded murderer? It would be hard to think clearly.

[@8.3.4.N]

parents who openly favour one child over another are really cruel imo. doesn't justify murder at all but it's still fucked up

[@puketinmoarliek994]

I dont get how you can be so horrible to your kid

[@dammar117]

Her mother! The woman who carried her and gave her life! Pure evil. Keep her locked up forever.

[@kengeorge5197]

Awesome video doc your the best love your wise crack

[@Cyber_Kati_6744]

👏👏👏Bravo Dr. Grande! 👏👏👏

[@hayleybourgault4114]

I don't understand why Helen didn't call 911. I realize she said it was because of her 7 year old niece. I still don't get why people murder someone they live with because they're going to be questioned. I don't understand murder in the first place. Great one Dr. G.💜

[@anomboing]

As the oldest child in my family I can relate to being basically homeless and living with your parents who are, the whole time paying for your siblings to have a whole ass house built, I don't think the narcissism comes in when you want to be your parents favorite I think it's natural to want to be loved by the person who gave birth to you. To want to be seen as equal to your siblings, however the entitlement and narcissism comes in when Megan had every opportunity to get up and go get for herself what her siblings had been given, instead of getting a degree and setting goals and making her own she wanted to simply be GIVEN what her younger sister had EARNED. she was lazy and had no drive and even if her mother had given her what she wanted it still wouldn't have been enough. Not once did she think about how "if mom had given me a house, how would I keep it up, how would I pay my bills, how would I do this, or that" she was very short sighted and greedy and took two people's lives who had no value to her other than money...it's really sad, she's pathetic and I hope she rots in jail

[@Mompreneur71]

Agreed!

[@TheBOG3]

She was married and her husband is in the military. She stayed with her mom when he was deployed. She probably thought if she stole the money for a house for them, then he'd pay the taxes and bills, I guess.

[@alexanderinsubordinate1861]

Dr Grande, may I offer one suggestion. When you talk about family members after the initial introduction, when you mention someone the second time, can you remind us who your talking about, for example you could say "Megan, the oldest daughter" rather than just saying Megan

[@terrancephillips5798]

Dr. Grande please tell me that you’re working on a video for Darrell Brooks, the Dunning Kruger King.

[@RadioheadCentral]

Every daily dose of Dr G comes with a hearty chuckle. Thank you and keep em comin!

[@Paslayas]

Who needs enemies with a sister like that?

[@bprobo24]

I worked with Helen at the time of this incident. We all knew Helen wouldn't have done it. What a terrible thing.

[@list283]

It's not necessary to give all the siblings the same things, jealoussy can happend even when everybody have equal things, cause jealousy is a perspective. I had a different experiemce with my siblings, them and I allways have encourage my parents to help finantially if we think someone needs it. I even discovered that my bros secretly asked my parents to not charge me and just gave me something I was planning to buy from them.

[@jacobbond7098]

I’m from Northern VA, just gotta say, it’s pronounced - Mc-Lane

[@maggiemolly111]

🙏 ma-clean 😂 surprisingly dopey slip up given it’s a well known American city.

[@chryssesandchaos]

My mother has favoritism, I tell her that whenever we have arguments when I was a teen, she denies it, which I don't understand because it's obvious, my other siblings can tell, even the favorite child knows, even strangers can tell, lol! But I don't care anymore, I've outgrown the favoritism shit, I have accepted the fact that it's normal for some parents to have favorites, it can't be helped. I just told myself, if I'm going to have kids of my own, even if I will have a favorite child, I will try my hardest to not let them see it and feel it. I do the same with my niece and nephews, no playing favorites. It can twist some peoples head in a dangerous way, of course, not everyone will be like Megan, but you never know. lol!

[@aunaun6775]

Please offer an insight to the idiocracy of the Darrell Brooks trial. I keep losing brain cells but can't seem to turn away. I would love to hear your thoughts on entitled narcissists refusal or inability to accept blame.

[@MsNooneinparticular]

It's his "defense" strategy: Act a fool until the judge throws him out of the courtroom, then when they inevitably find him guilty he can later attempt to overturn it because the judge dismissed him AND his lawyer (since he's acting in his own defense). I've seen it before & it's pathetic.

[@simoncoco1]

Why was the rifle in the house if this was a spontaneous murder, Dr Grande? Also, I think you have omitted a pertinent fact in Megan's apparent substance abuse issues.

[@eadweard.]

Didn't the rifle belong in the house normally?

[@simoncoco1]

@@eadweard. No, it was her husband's and this was not her family home. She claimed she brought it there because of some strange people hanging around but nobody else saw these men.

[@Kimberly1Lily]

Why was Megan driving back, and forth from West Virginia to Virginia? I noticed she did the same thing when living in New Mexico, driving to Texas often.

[@rattmausch]

You should do a video on Darrell Brooks.. People are saying he's a psychopath some are saying he's a sociopath.. It would be a good teaching tool to teach the differences.. Just an idea for a future video.

[@rattmausch]

Oops I saw you did a video on DB about a year ago.. But now, with the ongoing case and him defending himself. We know who the real DB is. So it probably would be a good revisit

[@pwallace5359]

Dr Grande, I’d like to hear your take on of the story of Ronald Clark O’ Bryan ,”The Candy man killer” that poisoned his son on Halloween night 1974 for insurance money..

[@Joffar]

I'm just relieved to get a break from the Meghan Markle videos.

[@anitaknight3915]

Amen it is so disgraceful and sickening how everyone gives the royals, Markle, and Kardashians all this attention when they are a bunch of narcissists

[@PumaLyn]

I just came across your channel and I'm glad I did. I place my phone next to my pillow and listen. Thank you. 🙏🏾 Your new fan and subscriber from Penang Island, Malaysia. On the other side of the world.

[@user-cs1un6sp1wRennata]

Brilliant analysis Dr. Grande!

[@ShraddaNiche]

Thank you Dr. Grande

[@butwhytho4858]

First time I’ve ever disagreed with Dr. grande. As a person with ptsd (CPTSD) and at 42 just recognized what I was dealing with, this was likely not narcissistic behavior imo. It sounds more to me like someone fantasizing about ending the pain felt by a mothers rejection, and then in the heat of a moment, acting on that impulse possibly due to disregulation or similar states of mind. As a teen I almost found myself in a similar situation. My moms words/actions had hurt me for the last time (I told myself) and I charged off, almost running to my dad’s gun cabinet. Right before I got there, the seam in the carpet tripped me and I fell into it breaking the glass front everywhere. That jarred me back into reality like a light switch. Now that I’m older, I realize my dad never left the guns loaded, but because of my emotional reaction, my life would have changed forever. Now that I’m older, I also realize my mother (who I do love), was a classic textbook narcissist. Only last year when I demanded she go with me to counseling or she wouldn’t see me or my family ever again, did the therapist touch on this, later counseling just me. I can’t explain to ppl who “don’t get it” what it feels like to hate yourself and know what’s causing it in childhood. And it doesn’t just go away in your early adult years either. Now I’ve learned a ton of techniques to throw myself a rope. I have a very supportive husband who’s on board with me too…. But back then, I feel like this could have been me. I also feel like her hijacking her moms accounts was her way of “sticking it” to her mom, not entitlement. It sounds like money was a controlling factor in that family. She likely knew and planned how she would hit her mom where it hurt. When that didn’t work, I think she was already spiraling for god knows how long, and reacted in a way she assumed would end her pain. So while it’s never ok to harm ANYone, I do understand it. I’m grateful I was able to get help starting when I checked myself into a mental hospital at 16. I’m also aware that not everyone will be as lucky as me, and this was probably not narcissistic entitled behavior, but either a wanting to harm the person who had hurt her for years, or to end the cause of her suffering; in the end, probably both.

[@TheBOG3]

At the mother's defense, we don't know how she treated the oldest daughter. She let her and the granddaughter live there with her while at the same time this woman (Megan) is married to a man and would go and live with him, too, the father of her little daughter. The Aunt (sister of the deceased mother) gave some insight into the relationship. She said that Megan used to babysit Helen but after Helen got older or grew up, she became jealous of her. I think the middle sister even said as much, too. Megan would have had to split their mom's money with the sister (the middle one) she didn't murder.

[@lisamac8503]

I was raised by two Narcs and never thought to harm either of them though i did think to run away many times but did not becaue I new education was the way to be free *went on to become a psychologist and animal behaviorist BA* MA* I always knew even as very young child that there was something wrong with them NOT ME Life was not easy but each of us reacts to our environments according to our own unique personalities and just because she was not favored or IF she was raised by a Narc does not mean you kill your family Sounds to be that she was spoiled Had no job ,no education and wanted a quick way to get money (my thoughts on this case)

[@butwhytho4858]

@@lisamac8503 I’m sry u were raised in that environment. I don’t think ppl Give enough thought into the psychology of the children growing up at the hands of ppl hell bent on manipulating them. As adults it’s easier to navigate. I am not a violent person and even managed to get two university degrees, even after almost failing HS, because as a much older adult, I separated myself from my mom and suddenly realized I wasn’t an eternal screw up. The games and manipulation stopped. For years I thought it was me. I hated myself and I hated her for not loving me because I was defective. Took me years to realize this. I cannot tell you how many times I reached out for help. Just recently, we had to be all in one home due to Covid and two hurricanes that tore everything up in Louisiana. In that time, my husband and I were having an argument while washing dishes together. She walked in, rolled her eyes and told me I should just go check myself back in to a mental ward… and walked out. My husbands jaw dropped. As a kid she told me to stop hugging so much because only retarded kids do that. She told me she disliked me because I was so much like my dad who she couldn’t stand. And I tried so hard everyday to make her happy with me. Wrote essays in school about how she was my hero, almost named my son after her dad cause I thought she would be thrilled… I can forgive her now because as an adult, I realize she did not have the ability to “love” me but she did keep a roof over my head and food on the table and protected me physically. I don’t have anger now as long as I keep her at arms length. I’ve always had been a kind and shy kid. I was and am now, not violent, suffering from psychosis, nor do I have any legal records…. So for me to have had the want to end my own suffering, and recognizing my own mother as the source, it shocks me to this day. But I was there. It wasn’t a movie. It was me. So respectfully, I think you are holding ppl to a standard and assuming they experienced things similar to you and therefor should handle it as well as you did. That’s just not how it works. We can agree to disagree I guess, that was just my experience and where I’m at now as a stable adult. I’m grateful I’m here and didn’t get farther in hurting my own mom. I now have 2 amazing kids and a great husband. I’d never have had that if I would have been able to get much farther in what my brain was screaming at me that day. THAT day as a teen, I was determined to make it stop. I didn’t even see her as a person then… or myself. She was an obstacle keeping me from some form of happiness and sanity. I still don’t know what happened to me that day. Can remember feeling like something was squeezing my heart, lungs/chest and I felt rage and panic and pain. So these stories always grab my ear. I don’t ever want to justify what happened to this family and taking a life. I DO however want to share my experience so that ppl might see it from a diff perspective and we can help prevent kids from making terrible mistakes, and as a result, save a few lives.

[@kirpdeb]

@@butwhytho4858 Thank You for sharing your thoughts. The best thing a family can do for their children is to be as concerned about their children’s emotional well-being and mental health as much as they do their grades, sports, special talents and activities, looks etc. The kids are not OK. Imho

[@anitaknight3915]

@@butwhytho4858 I deeply resonate with your comments and experiences shared. It is very difficult to explain to others unless they have experienced narcissistic abuse and family abuse in general what it does to one's self esteem and psyche. Like yourself, I don't condone violence or murder except in self defense, however, I do have compassion and understand how this can happen in families. It does unspeakable emotional damage and trauma. Like yourself I was raised by abusive narcissists and you can get to such a turbulent level of anger, rage, and sadness after decades and years of toxicity. Just like how I have empathy of people who snap during crimes of passion and affairs. It takes a toll on the mind and blurs your emotions. I am at that point too of cutting my mother from my life because she refuses to get professional help for her mental illness nor take accountability for her abusive actions. You are not alone and no one can understand unless they have experienced this firsthand.

[@marynoonan6111]

It also highlights the idiocy of having loaded guns in your house. Unbeknownst to us, maybe Megan had always been difficult and the mother would've helped her buy a house in the future, with the proviso of getting a damn job! Because she was at that time helping Helen get a house, It does not mean , that at some time in the future, she would not have helped Meghan get one too. I'd say it's less about perceived favoritism and more about a child that's always been difficult and the mum was trying to handle that in her own way. She sounded like a generous mum to me, all her grown children were still living at home with their own kids. I think it unfair that she's thought of as somehow to blame for her murderous daughter's evil behavior. Good people can have a horrible child.

[@urdnal]

I dunno I’d be pretty upset about _that_ level of favouritism, especially if I was broke. Not upset enough to kill of course, but that’s pretty damn insulting.

[@neotheboxer]

Unfortunately we don't know what her mother may have done for her before.

[@willelliott5052]

I am the oldest of three brothers. My youngest brother had my parents hearts. My middle brother had a big problem with that into adulthood. I am grateful that I had wonderful and loving parents, even if I was not the favorite. Now if my parents had built that little shit a house...

[@garymetellus943]

I strongly believe, once children become adults, they need to go away and have their own life, I don't even want them around for thanksgiving.

[@chubbs_tubby3360]

Bringing people into the world that you don't want to be around sounds like a stupid Fn idea

[@tammylaronde8593]

Yes, they should have their own lives once they are adults (that is what parents are supposed to prepare their children for) but you don’t completely shut the door afterwords. Have that Thanksgiving dinner. If you celebrate Christmas or other holidays , have that gathering. Life is short and unpredictable. You may come to regret what you strongly believe later on.

[@puketinmoarliek994]

damn bum

[@martinasikk6162]

Don’t people in US have any thought of consequences ? And should everybody have firearms ? Even if authorities don’t care of people suffering and dying, there is great economic damage to the society. But I suppose it’s a cultural thing, people have the right to murder in impulsive anger. And the state pays the cost for life in prison for the killer. Greetings from Sweden.

[@mariagabrielle6383]

No one in the US is forced to have firearms, but we have a constitutional right to protect ourselves from a tyrannical gov't. Guess what was the very last thing Hitler did before rounding people up? He took citizens guns away. We also have guns to protect ourselves & our property from criminals. Greetings from America 🇺🇸

[@fenty4140]

I can't help but to think that the mother's action in some infinitesimal way set the stage for Helen's egregious behavior.

[@birdworldist]

Yesss king go offff

[@calinicole3495]

😂😂

[@hunter_gt]

why is this so cringe

[@Sam-tq6xr]

Stop calling people king and queen. Doing your job doesn’t qualify for kingship. So cringe.

[@Sam-tq6xr]

@@hunter_gt literally !😬

[@calinicole3495]

"doing your job doesn't qualify ppl to be kings/queens" LMAO!

[@bavuz6]

hey Dr Todd Grande! can u do a bit on Steve Bannon, specially now with the sentencing he got?

[@gemmapayne3225]

Dr G, thanks for a great video. Can you cover Lucy Letby? A neonatal nurse who is accused of murdering 10 premature babies and attempting to murder 7 others? Her trial is currently ongoing in the UK

[@beautifulsunset4071]

That poor boyfriend. I hope he's not still haunted by that phone call. 😔

[@kingayy9267]

Looking good in the red, Dr. G!

[@hollybee2686]

It’s not favouritism. Wise parents understand that it’s only worth helping adult children financially with things that already have positive momentum as in in put from an adult with their head screwed on and the ability to benefit from the opportunity. Money is just a tool and if someone is a hot mess then letting them waste financial opportunities only adds to their self loathing.

[@bonnielee316]

Actually the killing of the mother could be considered first degree murder depending on where that gun was and how long it took for her to access it. I saw a case where the son killed the father that started out as a passion kill in the heat of rage but he stopped beating his father, went down to the garage, he had to take stairs to it, which takes time. Then he had to select duct tape and rope or whatever items. The jury found that in that amount of time he could have realized what he was about to do.