Dave Butler - Approaches to Scripture Study

[@JosiahM77]

Dude i love Dave. He’s just chill and is nice to listen to for hours.

[@franciegwin]

I was introduced to Dave at "The Stick of Joseph" and "Cwic". I've been very touched by his ideas. Many of them touch my heart! I do love teachings of Heavenly Mother so much. I'm a convert of nearly 20 yrs but not of diving into the scriptures deeply. Thanks so much for this episode! Just joined the channel!

[@arclightgames]

That's my painting!

[@SLCgrunt]

Where can I buy them?!?

[@bellainthebayou]

@@SLCgrunt I found it listed as Jesus Christ the Great High Priest by Jeff Brimley.

[@cheyaweber704]

So beautiful and inspiring!

[@DoctrineofChrist248]

Book 3?? I am SO stoked. I bought Dave's other two books and they are some of the greatest pearls in my library.

[@cheyaweber704]

One of those moments that jumps out and causes you to catch your breath happened to me when I read 2 Ne 9:41. We always hear and read, " Straight is the gate and narrow is the way . . ." This statement always made me feel like I was already defeated. I was sure I was wobbling all over the place and how was I ever going to know if I was on the straight and narrow path and how could I stay on it. Of course, I reminded myself of the iron rod, but was that all? Then I read this passage, "Behold the way for man is narrow (feeling a little disheartened for a moment but then it added), but it lieth in a straight course before him." It really says the same thing but this wording gave me hope. Point my nose, my eyes, my heart and mind towards Christ and keep moving and I'll make it.

[@ScriptureNotes]

Amen. ❤

[@MichaelGMoney]

Speaking of the Valley of Lemuel, in 1 Nephi 15-16, Nephi is explaining the vision to his brothers, and in 16 he exhorts them to repent and change their ways, and then when they do, That's when Nephi describes them getting married, whilst his father "dwelt in a tent in the Valley which he called Lemuel", and after the marriages, it says that Lehi had fulfilled all the commandments of the Lord. I'm not saying this is explicitly related to temple marriages, but I do find it fascinating that right after Nephi explaining a temple vision, and then exhorting his brothers to righteousness, and then all of them getting married, while dwelling in one of the "3 part spaces" and then and only then does Lehi fulfill all the commandments of the Lord. Just a thought.

[@DoctrineofChrist248]

Hey brosky. Finally uploaded a new vid. Will be uploading more frequently

[@MichaelGMoney]

@@DoctrineofChrist248 hell yeah! Great timing

[@Createwithfranzsidney]

hey Dave! Nice to see you here. You have a volcanic mind, always thinking and creating! I love your parallel between the tabernacle and the journey!

[@DJButlerRockBand]

Hi Franz! I hope you're well.

[@Createwithfranzsidney]

I am, thanks! Let's catch up soon! @@DJButlerRockBand

[@BazSupport]

1:01 - Brief recap of the previous webinar covering Matthew 5-7 1:35 - Dave's background and context for writing his first two Book of Mormon books 3:45 - Dave's journey into politics and his experience at the Clinton White House 6:48 - Dave's decision to preach the gospel instead of continuing in law and politics 7:26 - Revelation of the third book cover painting by Jeff Brimley 9:23 - Dave's current focus on writing the third book in his series 11:00 - The progression and development of Dave's books, from "skeleton of an elephant" to a more comprehensive understanding 13:12 - Changes in Dave's approach to the Book of Mormon after a decade of study and insights 15:10 - Overview of the content and structure of Dave's upcoming third book 18:49 - Insights from Israeli scholar Ziony Zevit on the meaning of "Eden" as "bountiful" 20:23 - Connecting Lehi's dream and the journey through the wilderness to the Tabernacle and Eden 25:12 - The significance of the place names in the wilderness journey and their correspondence to the Tabernacle 28:57 - Examining the various names of God in the creation story and the Garden of Eden 33:04 - The cultural shift in the Church towards conformity and fitting in with the world 35:22 - Generational differences in attitudes towards rebellion and uniqueness within the Church 38:15 - Commentary on the recent ISIS attack in Russia and the potential for false flags 40:56 - The importance of filtering world events through the Holy Ghost and scripture 42:34 - Making meaningful use of travel and leisure time for spiritual growth and understanding 44:01 - Approaching the scriptures with questions and using study tools to find insights 47:52 - The blurred line between personal insights and spiritual promptings during scripture study 51:37 - Balancing scholarly research with spiritual intuition in gaining scriptural understanding 55:01 - The value of slow, iterative learning in scripture study, and the importance of asking questions 58:57 - Examining the phrase "in the beginning" in Genesis 1:1 and its potential deeper meanings 1:02:16 - The divine feminine and the role of Wisdom in creation, as understood by Margaret Barker and others 1:09:02 - The usefulness of consulting alternate translations and versions of scripture for added insights 1:13:54 - The significance of numbers and numerical patterns in scripture, such as the number seven 1:18:06 - Dave's unstructured approach to teaching and studying the scriptures, driven by ongoing immersion and inspiration 1:23:54 - The importance of anchoring one's understanding in the Book of Mormon as a key to navigating biblical complexities 1:25:57 - The value of open-ended, self-directed scripture study focused on tracking themes, motifs, and images 1:29:46 - Reflections on the development of Oak's Scripture Notes app and its role in enhancing personal scripture study 1:34:52 - Analyzing Habakkuk 3:3-11 as a potential temple vision or Divine Council scene 1:41:19 - The idea of a Divine Council and the presence of the divine feminine in ancient Israelite religion 1:46:51 - Margaret Barker's insights on the high priest's clothing and its connection to the temple veil 1:57:44 - The Tree of Life as a central symbol in the temple and its representation of Heavenly Mother 2:01:26 - Reflections on recent changes to temple practices and the symbolic meaning of the veil for women

[@TamaraLove-x2b]

I love this! Thank you

[@creativegenecircle]

Dave. Could Neohi had been speaking in code when he said “and my father dwelt in a tent”…. Could he have really meant “ my father went to the tabernacle” “temple”

[@DJButlerRockBand]

Super interesting that Lehi's tent gets mentioned 7 times. That's a temple number. It's the number of beatitude blessings and the number of branches on the tree of life. Super interesting.

[@DoctrineofChrist248]

​@@DJButlerRockBand I believe Joseph Smith Sr. did an interview with someone where he said that Lehi had built a tabernacle. Don Bradley brought that one to light

[@DJButlerRockBand]

@@DoctrineofChrist248 thank you

[@CMZIEBARTH]

"Distil upon your souls as the dews from heaven."

[@brendamartin3444]

The veil was my favorite part of the Temple… I really miss it 😢

[@ScriptureNotes]

@tinysafari1851, I'm not sure where your comment went, but Dave and I are taking up that challenge and will post a follow-up video.

[@franciegwin]

I'm at the end where Dave is taking about the celestial room and before he talked about the chandelier in that room, where there is always a floral plant below that. I thought how the massive chandelier to me seems like a tree/the mother? Is that dumb? I'm kinda new to these deeper discussions.

[@ScriptureNotes]

No not dumb. :) The tree of life is full of bright white fruit.

[@MichaelSaline]

You will notice that there is always and only a female temple worker waiting in the celestial room.

[@MichaelSaline]

You will notice that there is always, and only, a female temple worker waiting in the celestial room. Sadly everyone I have talked to doesn’t know why they are there Or who they represent.

[@truefoodbeauty9767]

Gorgeous art!

[@jimwinebrenner620]

Thank you both so very much for this video! Obviously, I'm excited about Dave's third book becoming available, and maybe one of my questions will be answered there. In the meantime, Dave, you mentioned "humiliation" in only one sequence of talking about the temple flow, and I've been struggling to find what you meant by that. Even if it is explained in the third book, I'd love to get an explanation from you here. My other question is what you'd suggest as a good way to get started studying Hebrew for scripture study purposes. I currently have virtually zero knowledge of Hebrew. Is there a Web site or any kind of self-study or online program you'd recommend? (I do have some degree of familiarity with some modern languages, but not with Hebrew.)

[@knelson3326]

I love the Max Headroom glitchiness in Dave’s video feed.

[@ScriptureNotes]

Haha, I thought it was a seizure, but maybe it was flashbacks. :)

[@latterdaycovenantliving]

Do we know the meaning of the names Lamar and Lemuel the way we know Shazar and Nephi?

[@ScriptureNotes]

I asked Dave and he said: "Lemuel is a name you can find in any naming dictionary. It means something like 'belonging to God.' I think that Laman as an Arabic name comes from the root to 'shine.'"

[@CMZIEBARTH]

"And we did travel for the space of a time." Space = Time.

[@lexj1042]

"In the beginning God created..." if Jesus Christ is "the beginning", then the math formula version would be "In Jesus Christ God created..." Also, plug this in with "In the beginning was the word..."

[@ScriptureNotes]

Perfect. :)

[@MichaelGMoney]

Color me excited

[@arclightgames]

For me I try and assume that ALL ideas that bare good fruit comes from the Holy Ghost. My question is, why do you feel the need to be first to an idea even a head of the Holy Ghost a member of the Godhead?

[@kentskoien7583]

I'll start off with 2 Peter 1: 20-21 : Knowing this first,that no prophesy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. For the prophesy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost. So the scriptures then, given by God through the Holy Ghost are understood best by inspiration of the Holy Ghost. Which gift is conferred on the baptized after their baptism: 1 Tim 4:14 and 2 Tim 1:6. This ordinance is given in the true Church of Jesus Christ by someone holding the priesthood authority to do so.

[@TrebizondMusic-cm6fp]

I've come to the conclusion that the eight years included the time spent in Bountiful: eight years from leaving Jerusalem until they actually launch the ship. I get that from Godfrey J. Ellis' "Nephi's Eight Years in the 'Wilderness'" in the _Interpreter_ journal. *However,* since Nephi in writing his account at the time and for the purpose he did, we can allow him to make some modifications to the strict facts to make it more meaningful in a symbolic way. This isn't to endorse stupid ideas like saying he murdered the poor innocent Laban, but keeping in mind the purpose of his Small Plates account does give some wiggle room. It's kind of like the organization of the Church on April 6 (some people take that as meaning Jesus' birthday had to have been April 6), or for that matter the celebration of Christmas in December. Nephi is giving this people their origin story, their founding mythology. I had learned to call it a reverse exodus and Passover story, but to see it as a Temple journey is another layer of meaning that reinforces Nephi's report of what he's doing and why - and another twist of the nose of the stupid idea that Joseph Smith just made it all up. With that in mind, is there relevance to Nephi's specifying the directions they traveled? Of course those directions help us find the route and locations on our maps, but it seems they may have an additional meaning somehow. I love how Dave is alluding to Iain McGilchrist's findings about the brain hemispheres. _The Master and His Emissary_ helped revive my faith in God. I'm so glad I went to that authors' meeting in 2023! That's where I met Dave, and that's how I recognized him when I saw him on these videos this year, and it's been a beautiful reinforcement of my own rediscovery of the Book of Mormon.