Dave Davies Vs. Ray Davies: What Caused The Kinks Feud? (And NEW Kinks Music?)

[@MusicMongoose]

As always with these kinds of videos, I am bound to have left out some details, so let’s keep the conversation going in the comments! What did I miss? 😁

[@kubricksmith]

You missed the title of the video; what did cause the rift?

[@lucasoheyze4597]

Mate, your videos suck and you should stop making them.

[@lamper2]

"personal tensions". steady musician serious player(Dave) vs wildly unserious creative genius(Ray)@@kubricksmith

[@Fitzroyfallz]

So excited to hear about the new music! I can’t deny I find hearing about their antics quite entertaining, I’m glad they don’t *really* hate each other though

[@classic_colin]

Ray favours the “Dave-is” pronunciation of their surname, whereas Dave favours the “Dave-eeze” pronunciation. They can’t even agree on the pronunciation of their family name lol

[@lamper2]

America was, I'm pretty sure, a Daveeeze country.

[@LaughingStock_]

@@lamper2 It is "Daveez" - Davis is an entirely different surname.

[@brianfergus839]

@@LaughingStock_ “Davies” is commonly pronounced “Davis” in England

[@Sams911]

one of the most under rated under discussed bands of the 60's .. that actually out lasted most of the bands of their era... I remember my introduction to them was their 1984 album Word of Mount.. I was floored.. it was I believe one of their last studio albums.

[@1966Heath]

The Kinks are probably my favorite band, rivaled only by The Fall, and I’ve given a lot of thought to Ray and Dave’s ongoing antics. I suspect that a lot of it comes down to Ray being an extremely sensitive “artist type,” not knowing how to handle criticism or conflict, and BOTH of them bearing the old “curse of the rock star”- that is, never having had to really grown up. Just speculation, obviously.

[@MusicMongoose]

Sounds pretty logical!

[@johnwright291]

Can't wait to hear the new stuff. I was born in 1956 and in 1964 when my brother bought the 45 you really got me, I thought wow, no one can hold a candle to these guys.

[@tysonmindham2986]

Muswell Hillbillies is one of the best rock albums of the 70’s. No one talks about it.

[@dustbowlboys3220]

And simultaneously, one of the best Country Albums

[@antoniodelrey164]

Man, it’s so great. Another favorite is Arthur for me but all their albums are standouts. Powerful lyrics and catchy tunes…

[@LaughingStock_]

That and "Lola Powerman" - their two masterpieces.

[@pauljackson2473]

There really isn’t any market for the older bands putting out music anymore. Nobody will market it. The Who put out a new album a couple of years ago and nobody cared. Both Townsand and Daltry said they shouldn’t have bothered. All the new market wants is old songs for placement in movies and TV and Ads.

[@MickBokulich-gg1ro]

Ray isn’t all about the market. There are many of us that would love to hear new kinks music and Ray’s all about giving the people what they want

[@chrisstern]

Mate, I absolutely adore your videos. Keep going!

[@tectorgorch8698]

The Kinks are my favorite Brit group ever ( yeah yeah Beatles Stones blahdiblah) and Lola is absolutely the greatest rock song ever (well, so is Behind Blue Eyes, but i digress). Great report Mr. Goose, keep up the good work!

[@tomrobinson5776]

👍

[@MusicMongoose]

Mr. Goose... I like it.

[@lucyfoster4082]

Ray always has songs in the pipeline. Making songs is to him like breathing; he can’t live without it. And despite the fact that yes, they fight, Ray and Dave have always played and worked on music together and always will do. It does not mean they will launch an album and a tour, because that’s “business” and that’s where things get complicated.

[@BNardolilli]

I could see this being turned into a c. 2007 parody biopic with Will Farrell and John C. Riley

[@MusicMongoose]

I would LOVE to see that, haha!

[@sethhill5689]

I just don't understand the siblings ending up like Ray/Dave, etc. I get fights, etc but to basically disown each other, never talking again, etc I can't understand.

[@jasonholbrook2019]

They're not the only ones. consider the Gallagher brothers,Noel and Liam.They're as every bit as bad as the Davies.

[@lloydbraun6026]

Wait until someone betrays you

[@oldermusiclover]

sadly in a way that is what happened to the Fogertys

[@deathofamailman]

what is the dispute over 'you really got me'?

[@MusicMongoose]

I believe it was to do with how the distinctive guitar sound of the riff was achieved. Ray believed it was by placing a makeshift cone over the amplifier or speaker and Dave is convinced Ray was never in the room when it was recorded!

[@deathofamailman]

thanks!@@MusicMongoose

[@oldermusiclover]

@@MusicMongoose and the drummer was the late great session drummer Bobby Graham

[@JamesPeers-y3n]

I feel like this possible reunion is just too late at this point....sadly.

[@maryreilly5092]

It's too bad they couldn't have the same brotherly band as the Young brothers of AC/DC.

[@richardmontalbano3603]

New music? I’ll believe it when I hear it

[@thomaspick4123]

It’s all about the money. All songs were credited to Ray as the writer. Dave felt he should have been given equal writing credit, since Dave’s guitar creations were important to many of the songs. So, Dave feels he did not get the money he deserves.

[@philipbrackpool-bk1bm]

Same problem as Simon and Garfunkel, Ray wrote them but when you listen to the Kinks you mainly hear Dave.

[@annelivett7161]

I still love the kinks ❤❤❤anne Darlington

[@erniericardo8140]

It All Comes Down To The $$$$ - Which Always Breaks Up Groups and add a pinch of Egos.

[@DavidSaisi-bf5nk]

JEALOUSY

[@davidrennie8197]

Get rid of the useless background music noise

[@MusicMongoose]

Bit late for that

[@mikeberg5003]

And the "film effects"

[@dionsands3113]

Alittle to generous to Dave.Ray wrote all the hits ,except Death of a Clown-Ray wrote the rest!

[@RebeccaGWilson]

Wrong. Dave wrote Strangers and Living On a Thin Line and others

[@davidfoster2006]

One guy Ray was far more talented than the other brother Dave and this probably cause tension as Dave was probably jealous of Ray.

[@brianfergus839]

Bollocks

[@juke699]

Unfortunately since his stroke Dave can barely play guitar, it's more of a prop he wears on stage than an instrument...

[@RebeccaGWilson]

That’s not true! Search up all his live shows since 2012! Don’t be a troll

[@juke699]

You're delusional, Dave once was a Great player, now he is just a shadow of himself. I've played guitar for over 50 years and know what I'm talking about...

[@headboy]

Share fair.

[@davidcoomber4050]

God this is boring , this guy sounds like a radio 2 reject

[@sledzeppelin]

For one thing, Dave is in a UFO cult.

[@tedcabana]

Only a feature length Movie could explain their feud, and uprising in the world of 20th century music. No other Band, brotherhood, has ever been so well documented in their historic moments. They got banned from the US! How bad do you have to be to get banned from the US? No other band has gone so far. I think there needs to be a Movie about the Kinks. Or perhaps, a series of episodes to culminate the historical adventures of these talented brothers journey through their professional music odyssey. Who the HELL has the BALLS to make such a film?

[@markmarsh27]

I'm guessing that Dave's absolutely TERRIBLE guitar playing had something to do with it.

[@Fitzroyfallz]

Woah, talk about unpopular opinion! His riffs in things like you really got me and all day and all of the night are legendary. What makes you say that?

[@dalegamburg8995]

​@@Fitzroyfallzalways liked Dave's sound more than rays,

[@RebeccaGWilson]

Troll

[@markmarsh27]

@@RebeccaGWilson Sorry if that hurt your feelings, but Dave Davies is one of the very worst guitar players ever recorded.

[@brianfergus839]

I’m guessing you didn’t even hear Ray at 2:35