david graeber dec 2018

[@felicityc]

Need to start downloading all of these to keep locally, every bit of Graeber that can be archived is a treasure

[@Isaac-LizardKing]

i’m currently assembling a playlist of his lectures and conversations so i can listen to them until i can get around to reading his books

[@alfiecdyson]

Great archive! Please let us know where you decide to archive these!

[@simonaferlini]

@@Isaac-LizardKing can you please share it?

[@csallenii]

​@@Isaac-LizardKing share the playlist please :D

[@HistoryforThinkers]

RIP. No single thinker has ever influenced me like David Graeber. I have nothing but unwavering respect and reverence for this man.

[@alfiecdyson]

Ditto

[@alfiecdyson]

Yo, like why do you revere David Graeber and yet you’re so interested in H*tler?

[@SirBojo4]

@@alfiecdyson they're the same person I guess

[@lutherdean6922]

Thank you for sharing this. David Graeber was the people's academic. A real intellectual hero as sophisticated in his work and theory as he was down to earth and genuine. Rest in power DG, thank you for all your work!

[@caltissue141]

I really enjoy this, I'm surprised it doesn't have more views.

[@AudioPervert1]

Nothing useful has hits ... A Rihanna video or some squirrel no brain trash has millions and.millions ...

[@hermanfrodit7442]

Late to the game. Rest in power David.

[@amellirizarry9503]

My favorite anti-imperialist take 46:53 - 50:47

[@ArtAristocracy]

"To some degree, systems of social inequality are a game that's gotten out of hand. But the first thing I wanted to emphasize was that by framing it in terms of inequality, it naturalizes it. Right? Because it makes it sound like, 'well I mean we're never going to be equal, what does that even mean?' Do we want everyone to have exactly the same stuff? (Yeah!) What if we don't want the same stuff? ( Let's find out!) Or are we to have everybody have things that are worth exactly the same? Then you'd have to quantify the exact worth of everything, you don't want to do that either. (Sure) So you don't really want equality in that sense of wealth" - Graeber I can't help feel drawn to developing on the point before he tangents, about the 'naturalising' effect of using the concept of 'equality' as it is a quality that keeps things guessing about the worth of anything. It's a concept a position that exists perpetuated by it's own clingliness to it's own address. When the issue of corrupt power and unfair wealth accumulation spin the most useful PR, comment that debt is an equal contract, that must be fair or it's thrown out as not reasonable. The power to do this must be exercised by free people, other wise, your inslaved to the endless add on's to the repayment of this abuse of the contract of debt. We are always in debted to each other. Banks need to step the fuck down.

[@AFreeThinker999]

a rare candid interview.

[@patriceortovent6451]

Very good interview, very informative. Great loss about David Greaber, wonder how he died, he was still young enough to live many more active years . Strange to hear of such a sudden death.

[@dstyles8913]

The good ones always die. Meanwhile Henry Kissinger is still around.

[@Senriam]

@@dstyles8913 my only hope is that he’s only still alive because some cosmic force is forcing him to live till he can pay for his crimes

[@felicityc]

@dezessete It's completely reasonable (ESPECIALLY since he happened to be in Italy, where it was quite bad in March/April, I recall still not finding it to be very serious while Italians I knew online were offended we didn't see it as very bad yet) that COVID could have exacerbated or finalized already ongoing issues. Because of how its action of infection is performed (attacking hemoglobin and destroying blood vessels which exposes the iron and causes iron poisoning, infecting through the lungs etc) and other blood issues, especially in those early cases, would have been much, much worse. It actually tracks almost perfectly with how aforementioned Italian friends were perceiving the pandemic compared to us in the States, as well as friends who had early Feb/March cases (Generally, postal or amazon workers) and only retroactively did we realize a few months later that it was clearly COVID some of us had gotten, but we were young enough to ward it off (I don't think I ever got it). How awful. I don't find it very puzzling truthfully, but I do find it heartwrenching it took him and didn't take Trump.

[@MikeRLloyd73]

Pancreatic necrosis While in a pandemic in Italy when it wasn't cool to go to the hospital

[@surelles]

@@dstyles8913 :) sometimes you get to watch bad guys die too

[@sodapop8885]

he looks so tired...

[@leuvenisaplace]

That bit about native Americans critiquing Western institutions is remarkable. As wandering discussions go, this is very decent.

[@stephentrueman4843]

David has alot of useful stuff to say, i really enjoyed that bit aswell. 18:50 -19:50 "in alot of societies you can't turn wealth into power [...] it never occured to them (native americans) just because i've got more beads [...] i can tell people to do something they don't want to do. Took awhile to figure out, having rights over objects allows you to order them around."

[@6Diego1Diego9]

where are the other David Graeber's of the world? So i can find them before they die.

[@johnmarkther2218]

You can be the next!

[@willowjavery4652]

I want historical fiction about the decision to stop farming so bad.

[@gscott2552]

lol there aren’t enough movies about this period, this very long period of prehistory. What David Graeber illuminated for me is, just how much high political drama there has been over the last 100,000 or 250,000 years. Totally unexplored material for screenplays.

[@JacksonEverley-f2m]

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[@n1mbusmusic606]

did he have a serious medical condition that anyones aware of? he says he's sick in this video. apparently died of internal bleeding in an airport in Venice. he was incredibly active in 2019/2020, about to release a new book. it seems unlikely he was battling a serious medical condition that would illicit such a tragic result.

[@sveu3pm]

just like Navalny. I guess one Chomsky and old senile one , is most the secret powers can tolerate.

[@n1mbusmusic606]

sadly i worry for yanis vourifaukis too. crypto and nationalize the banks!

[@sodapop8885]

it was pancreatitis, that's what he died from.

[@ximono]

His wife wrote a post about them both having health issues for a long time before the trip to Venice. She suspected it was COVID, although they tested negative.

[@Andandand25]

Does anyone know what the title of this interview is?

[@gscott2552]

Yeah this is called “random people walk in through a cracked door”

[@cdzlink7115]

I have heard him say he was an anarchist. Other people have said he was an anarcho -communist. I have never heard him say he was an anarcho-communist. Can anyone shed light on this?

[@deejay8ch]

I think his fondness for the concept of a universal basic income is one thing that is more socialist in nature, but I wouldn't go so far as to use the term 'communist', even if you specified it as a way of life for a society that was more 'commune'-like in nature and function. But then again it's hard to say. David was a brilliant guy with complex ideas about complicated phenomena. Simple labels seem far too reductionist, even if he was self-confessed anarchist. He certainly had great mind for anthropology though, and the world is poorer now that he's gone.

[@rainbowmonkMC]

so Graeber seperates anarchism and comminism into two different yet interrelates spheres of human life. he sees anarchism as 'politics' - particularly direct democracy. while he sees communism not as politics but actually as one of the three general principles of economics (the other two bring exchange - one for one - and gift giving - hierarchal). he defines communism as "an economic principle that can be put simply as each according to their need from each according to their ability" (an old Marxist addage). i think he would agree with me in saying this links up closely with the concept of "mutual aid" that he also says is incapsolated by anarchism as a way of living (a politic). i hope that helps a bit! would be happy to keep discussing the subject

[@gscott2552]

I just love that he was an anarchist working at London School of Economics

[@willowjavery4652]

I would say that he is distinctly not an anarcho-communist. Not so much because of practical distinctions in aims and values, but because he was a staunch critic of modes of anarchist organizing that centered Old Left ideas of revolution. There's some comments he made in Direct Action I'm basing this interpretation on.

[@John-qi9cj]

RIP

[@AudioPervert1]

He was so good ... As in a useful academic .. RIP 😪 he died

[@tania2897]

"...the dumb students.." oof. Feels like that would be me.

[@thatyoutubechannel9953]

Wow he kinda looks like Corpsegrinder from Cannibal Corpse

[@JacksonEverley-f2m]

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[@CoffeeAndSmoke23]

I love Graeber but I dont think I agree with him on wealth inequalities like when he says you can have all the wealth in the world so as long as that cannot afford you to be able to push people around and make them do things they dont want to do..If money as we know it remains the dominant means of exchange value,then money (wealth) will inevitably lead to an inequitable power dynamic..

[@n1mbusmusic606]

one of our best guys. I leaned on saying he sas probably murdered. this is meant as disrespect to his family or loved ones. but quite frankly, this guy was SO amazing that Its not hard to imagine why the mafias that run the planet would see him as too dangerous to be kept alive. RIP, thank you for your tremendous work. Wish he'd gotten a bodyguard. oh well.

[@patchadams4439]

after Yale he should have said good bye to academia, I think. Why should you donate your life to a system that treats you so badly. Perhaps spending 2 or 3 hours a day in a nursing home, nursing people. Writing articles at the side from time to time. go fishing, spend much time abroad in Madagascar, India, Japan. Learn guitar, become a street musician

[@mira2gusto]

Or better: spend 10 years writing a blockbuster earth shattering book on your spare time. A book that will be an instant bestseller before it even comes out, a book that you will die 10 days before it comes out, a book that contains all or most of your condensed amazing intellect and reasoning and research… thank you for this wonderful gift Prof Graeber 💕…

[@rainbowmonkMC]

where can you work only 2 or 3 hours a day? please point me there, id love that

[@patchadams4439]

@@rainbowmonkMC there are many possibilities!! Especially when you are a "freelancer" or so.Teaching, coaching, but also, music therapy, or other form of therapy. You should work self-employed, yau are your own boss then. But also, many firms are happy to make a contract with you in which you get the conditions you want, check it out

[@rainbowmonkMC]

@@patchadams4439 wow! what future do you live in? where is the worm hole? hehe! ive neger encountered such firms; all the teaching and coaching jobs ive applied for (i have an MA and lots of experience in the sports world and my sibling is a coach who works 60hrs/week) have ridiculously high hours usually a lot unpaid and off the clock. furthermore, im a trained editor with a liscense but publishing houses and this "digital nomad" trend has saturated that market as well. despite 5 years of freelance experience the well of clients drys up or i hsve to offer cheaper and cheaper prices to get clients, pushing me towards unlivable wages. and all the therapist i personally know or the ones i email to get help are swamped. kve received emails now from therapists who cancelled their waiting lists bc they became "so long it was depressing", so thats an overworked profession as well. sorry if i sound pessimistic. i appreciate you presenting options; i feel its important for me to answer honestly with my life experience. maybe im missing something in our world you can help me see 💜

[@patchadams4439]

@@rainbowmonkMC Thank you Sir, I appreciate your description. I'm not sure if I can be of any help here. The life I desccribed, it takes a minimalist lifestyle of course. When you want to have one or two expensive holidays a year, when you drive a car, or have children, or buy expensive things, you must work full-time I think. But when, on the other side, you possess your own little apartment, when you can live of 500 Euro a month, then a small "Mac Job" will feed you. I have been doing it myself for a long time now. Also, I quit smoking. I think it's o.k. Also you can do a little art and sell it once in a while. Or you do a little translation work, or other things. Perhaps a little trading with art. Or music instruments. I don't know if our society would still be there if everybody lived that way, but as an individual, you can do it. It's easy living, you get time for many beautiful thigns, riding your bike, reading, or writing your own books and articles, making music in the streets