David Limbrick tears apart drug driving laws

While this debate was around driving rules for medical cannabis patients, David Limbrick takes the opportunity to highlight the injustice of drug driving laws that affect sober drivers just because they have trace elements of certain drugs in their system.
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[@userllt55]

So why didn't the police test for drug and alcohol use to Mrs Andrews after she nearly killed a 15year old on a push bike ..... disgusting this makes me sick of all the BS

[@dandeeteeyem2170]

This ❤

[@Debbie-qx9wh]

Don’t be stupid it’s not what you know it’s who you know😂

[@stevehollis9121]

Exactly 💯

[@nelly365]

Was it her or him

[@userllt55]

Who knows....who was driving??

[@stephenperry7371]

They don’t care about safety, they care about revenue.

[@MacGuffin1]

They care about scary words like 'vaping' They dont bother with science if someone makes the words scary enough beforehand...

[@nottenvironmental6208]

Except nth Sydney and Canberra has few drug checks and yet Western Sydney has high checking rates. They are targeting the poor

[@mebdoc]

The law needs to be vigorously challenged immediately otherwise Australia is a sham democracy.

[@nottenvironmental6208]

@mebdoc 😆 democracy. Bit late there. Australia is a plutocracy or a pluotcratic Oligarchy already. Regulatory capture is complete, only voting for the candidates who don't accept corporate donations may reverse the authoritarian movements

[@glennrobinson7193]

Wonderful to see someone fighting for and speaking up for justice. This man has my 100% support in every thing he says here. May God speed for him and I pray he will make a difference for what is right..

[@LibertariansAus]

❤‍🔥

[@bitemedontchew]

I agree much respect ☺️

[@camb6176]

Victoria is a corrupt joke. Rotten to the core. Thanks David, you are a rare gem.

[@hrsman72]

I have personally experienced this, stopped for a blown headlight, submitted to a roadside test that produced a positive, taken to the station for a secondary test, negative, driven back to my vehicle and dropped of with no impairment Still lost my licence for 3 months and fined $1000, lost my job instantly and was unemployable from this point, I was not impaired and had not consumed any cannabis for 10 days, I had been suffering PTSD post bushfires and was not eating so I had a smoke on a Saturday afternoon, ate and slept for the first time in months and had returned to work for the first time in months. I requested the laboratory test results and the levels and was refused. This incident totally destroyed my family for 3 years after, destroyed my trust in the system and police. It should be mandatory for all parliamentary staff and politicians to submit to testing before starting any sitting, I will put money 50% would fail the present in blood test and this rubbish would end real quick, this includes anyone employed in the police force, many would fail this rubbish testing Thank you for speaking on this

[@LibertariansAus]

Thank you for sharing your experience. It's truly unfortunate that you had to endure such a distressing ordeal, which came at a significant personal cost. The law should have been more discerning between impairment and non-impairment before it was passed. We hope that these issues will be addressed and the law will be amended in the near future.

[@kentee4957]

This is a major problem in the mining industry for the last 20 years where alot of recreational drug users have switched to speed & meth because of the short detection window

[@LibertariansAus]

Not just that, apparently that was one of the areas where the "novel psychoactive substances" issue emerged. So rather than cannabis, people were smoking weird stuff designed in an obscure Chinese lab.

[@kentee4957]

@@LibertariansAus not sure how prevalent that was as the workers I know that tried synthetic weed only did it once as wasn't a good experience

[@tonyhanley9458]

So easy to pick the tweakers. Speed has been around the mining industry since the 80’s.

@@LibertariansAus A very senior policeman once told me at a barbeque that drugs are only allowed because Governments including federal allow it and profits are distributed to them from the top dealers like biker clubs and are flown/shipped into the country regularly and are then distributed to these top dealers .

[@LibertariansAus]

@@kentee4957 Yes. This particular admin heard that also. I wasn't suggesting that it was necessarily prevalent, just that it was one of the places where it emerged pretty early on. Before it made it into the sex shops etc.

[@johnnygun85]

There's an adult in the room. Fantastic. Well argued.

[@stivi739]

And the stupid tax on smokes

[@LibertariansAus]

Thank you JohnnyGun! 🙂

[@patrickhenry7721]

Testing is also an inversion of the presumption of innocence. You are presumed guilty of DUI, either you submit to an invasive test to prove your innocence or if you refuse the default verdict of guilty is maintained.

[@stephenpheonix6549]

The biggest problem for medical cannabis is patients can have some the night before to help them sleep and be 100% normal an unimpaired the next morning going to work and then lose their license. I’ve had this happen to a friend of mine and he lost everything just for doing the right thing and getting it medically through the system. Any Medical Cannabis Patients should be exempt from testing!

[@jonathanparle8429]

Not exempt from testing but the rules modified to take it into account.

[@lockpickingengineer7458]

They just simply shouldn’t be allowed to drive!

[@mindtorquemusic]

It doesn't affect your driving skills. Believe me, I know after more than 30 years, not one accident, and drove vehicles for justice and police. The cannabis vilification must stop, it's immature, lazy and childish.

[@James-kd7dc]

​@@lockpickingengineer7458 going by your comment you shouldn't be allowed to drive knowing your mental capacity.

[@abracadabra6324]

If you are even a tiny bit stoned from thc you should not be driving. Until there is a better way to measure impairment levels it’s a whole lot of too bad. Deal with it or maybe you would rather take your chances of running a kid over or something. It’s just not worth the risk. It’s EXACTLY the same with alcohol. You stay pissed for about half the next day if you are a heavy drinker. Just deal with it

[@AwakenedWookie]

I lost my licence 2 years ago (for 6 months) for driving with THC in my system. I had joint with some friends 2 days prior on a Friday afternoon and tested positive on Sunday afternoon. I was NOT under the influence. I was nowhere NEAR feeling the effects of the smoke i had 2 days prior. But yet, here i am. 2 years later and my career as a Truck Driver is now over. I can not get any kind of work driving any kind of vehicle due to these disgusting and weak laws and the "drug driving" charge i now have on my driving record. Which any truck driver will tell you, is your career record and the first thing any employer looks for. Meanwhile the government forced every truck driver in the country to take something a couple of years ago from which, MANY have died. Some while behind the wheel of 60 tonne B-doubles. This country makes sense again.....

[@dandeeteeyem2170]

This story is all too common. I know many people who have had their lives ruined because they now have a criminal conviction for this exact circumstance. Years of university down the drain because their industry requires a clean record. WTaF. 😢

[@user-gz1hu5px1z]

That is a tragedy for you not being a trucker anymore.

[@tonybarnes3658]

I hear you . I lost my heavy and public vehicle operator (bus driver) because I'm taking a legally prescribed opiate! Took months of arguments just to get my car license reinstated. I've been taking it for years , always recorded on the annual medical, suddenly someone in the RTA (ACT) made the decision, out of the blue, that I was a danger! Ducked my working life too

[@jimcheers4341]

So sorry to hear man, this cuntry is losing what Australian means long ago

[@mebdoc]

What happened to you is a grave injustice

[@willbest8126]

Love this guy! Great to see that there is someone voicing what Ive been thinking and feeling for years!

[@paullangley1938]

as a smoker for nearly 50 years this needs to be addressed i now have medical mary jane and this makes total sense

[@commonsense7754]

I’d argue opiates, anti depressants and several other medically scripted drugs are far more likely to cause impairment when driving than medical cannabis. There are also studies proving that cannabis use does not lead to the same risk driving for example, as something like alcohol when used in moderation.

[@brontepetropoulos4755]

Thankyou for your honest talk, agree with your comments🇭🇲

[@patcr6200]

Wow. We need more politicians who use common sense and personal honesty like David.

[@markjoyce3172]

Yes, you excellent man. Thank you

[@LibertariansAus]

Thank you too! 🙂

[@Nathofagus]

I was pulled over and tested positive for THC more than 48hrs after smoking it was clearly obvious that I was not impaired and the charging officer stated "I can see your not impaired" then they let me drive home and i have now lost my licence.

[@stivi739]

Wtf

[@jerichotrumpet4933]

The only offense used should be DUI or Driving Under the Influence which is proved through observation by police of actual impairment rather than some arbitrary reading. This is an old law.

[@whitemanriding]

It's all about getting your money.

[@rickyelvis3215]

BRAVO and thank you!

[@LibertariansAus]

😊

[@GoldiefromMahia]

Marvelous speech mate

[@_DML_]

Exactly. Impairment test if drugs are shown to be in the system.

[@LibertariansAus]

Not only more just, but likely more effective too. The problem will probably be solved by technology and capitalism when a company convinces police to adopt better technology that actually tests for impairment the laws will follow.

[@jonathanparle8429]

@@LibertariansAus Capitalism in Victoria? That's like asking for an in-ground swimming pool on the moon.

[@LibertariansAus]

@@jonathanparle8429 The procurement contract for the roadside drug tests is negotiated with all Australian and New Zealand police. So it would be attacking the cost/benefit side for the police and bypassing both the politicians and Victoria.

[@bencordell1965]

I got drug tested 6 times last year they usually set up in low income areas

[@wiggyb854]

The most sensible thing I’ve heard in a long time.

[@aWitty]

David is a LEGEND! Keep it up. I'd also love to hear your views on continuously lowering speed limits, excessive fines, and double demerit points.

[@nepntzerZer]

finally its getting talked about. there really should be a class action lawsuit and people fired.

[@ricdee6248]

I am homeless live in a van and am now sitting in a rest area in NSW for 3 months due to losing my licence for having thc in my system. The laws need to be changed everything David says here about opiates and benzodiazapene is so true as I now have to medicate on valium which I feel is much much worse

[@user-gz1hu5px1z]

I feel for you, I was homeless for years out in the forest. Stay safe out there, I think of my homeless brothers and sisters everyday .😢

[@bb5147]

Thankyou David Limerick for bringing light to this issue.

[@KanesWeapon]

I am in Queensland. I am 49 years old. I am using pharmaceutical maruiana INSTEAD of opioid because if I was still on opioids I'd be dead. I need to be able to drive. The canbabis stops me from road rage and other intermittent explosive disorders.

[@stronghold500]

I watched everyone go from marijuana to speed overnight.testing in mining industry caused the meth epidemic.

[@redtobertshateshandles]

When they started to crack down on Marijuana around 1980 or so, people turned to heroin and other crap. Killed many people.

[@LibertariansAus]

You're not the first to say so either. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it's not just the testing, you also get put on a blacklist for the entire sector, so there's a really powerful incentive there.

[@stronghold500]

@@LibertariansAus Workplaces should not interfere in the social fabric of society. What do they know of the science or repercussions? Or do they.....🤔 Culture c 0 nt ○ 》

[@lfroglfrog4962]

Well Said!!!!!❤❤❤

[@ronsta2552]

Got to 3:11 and hes spot on. Its unfair and it will remain unfair until they make a test that judges how impaired a person is...not only for cannabis but for legal perscription medication. If we look at both sides of the coin...Someone can drive legally impaired on oxycontin or duramine or drive illegally on a prohibited substance that hardly impairs a regular cannabis smoker. A friend of a friend told me to tell you that when he drives stoned (which is everyday for the past 20 years) the impairments that he experienced were 1) He didnt feel like punching the face of the idiot that cut him off and 2) He drove under the speed limit. Um...He also said he has never received a speeding ticket while ripped.

[@kelmac4338]

Go man go...we really need more common-sense politicians like this guy. He speaks only the truths. Thank you.

[@aaronhopkins6697]

First of all thank you David Limbrick for standing up for us medical cannabis patients, on this driving issue that should have been sorted out many years ago. Off topic but still relevant, the people who also make other drugs that are opioid based also are the same people that make the reversal drug narcan, as to keep their customers alive. And this way they make twice as much money, buy suppling the users and also suppling the rescuers. Brilliant business model if you ask me... Proudly brought to you but our faithful government.

[@Broken_Spoke]

Why are most states and other countries have a limit of 0.08 like we used to? Countries with Millions of more people

[@DropTheMyc]

Trust the science 😂

[@Jedijac5]

Amen. Who in Australia thinks our government is corrupt? I DO. Everyday they prove me right.

[@user-gz1hu5px1z]

I don't think, I know they are corrupt.

[@YouTube_user3333]

Why have these laws never been challenged in court? Why have judges not done something? Why are the police continuing to do this to people? Money and sheeple.

[@David-f8o2o]

A very smart man , unfortunately not like our current government.

[@kentaylor2416]

The previous government was better?

[@woopimagpie]

There's a far better chance of cannabis law reform under a Labor government than if the conservatives are in power. Far better. In NSW Chris Minns is (sadly) sticking to his guns saying not changing the laws was an election promise, it's a great pity that a politician actually adhering to a promise is not in the public interest, but at least they've held two enquiries and have been willing to consider decriminalisation based on the expressions of community leaders and law enforcement. Minns has also said it's not off the table if he gets elected for a second term, so there's that. The conservatives wouldn't even talk about it, it was just a flat "no". ACT and SA already have relaxed laws. QLD, NSW, VIC, and WA are all looking at it. Labor governments in all those states. They aren't perfect, but they're tons better than the bible bashers.

[@marcusaustrelius]

I am a former everyday wake n baker and a tradiie. Every time I smoked and left the house, I would brush my teeth and quickly run my toothbrush over my tongue. I passed multiple drug tests ranging from 30 minutes later to 4 hours later. I have two friends who were charged with drug driving telling the police they smoked in previous days and both of them admitted to me they smoked less than an hour before without any mouth sanitation taking place. This is a red herring issue.

[@marcusaustrelius]

@@KaiserSoze357 I gave it up in January, the last time I was tested was just before Christmas and I was baked. Smoked at 9 am on a Saturday morning and was tested about 10:30. Tongue test just aren’t that strong, when you get high you can see a film over your tongue and it takes two seconds to scrub it off and you’ll pass

[@LibertariansAus]

It may be more likely that you are detected recently after smoking, but as David said in the video, there are many stories of people being caught the next day. This admin has friends that were caught between 24 and 72 hours after consumption.

[@marcusaustrelius]

@@LibertariansAus Take it from a guy who’s been high multiple, multiple times and passed. They need to practice better mouth hygiene. If it’s urine or hair it’s a different story but speaking from first hand experience there is no way I will buy that a mouth swab will register 72hrs later. I am 100% prolegalisation and we need a better sobriety test for sure but basing a movement on lies is a terrible start.

[@secondchance6603]

@@LibertariansAus On the subject of cannabis use, here in NZ if you apply for a job the vast majority of them require you pass a drug test. Meanwhile we have MP's, civil service workers and Councilors who openly admit to using it. Unsurprisingly MP's, Civil Service workers, Councilors and Councils workers are are exempt from being tested for drug use. We just introduced roadside drug testing a few months ago.

[@infoanalysistconspiracyrealist]

What about all those driving while high as a kite on pharmaceutical drugs.

[@LibertariansAus]

Exactly. Shifting the focus to impairment would create a more just system for cannabis users, including medical cannabis people, but it would also start detecting other drivers who are impaired and currently getting away with it.

[@bitemedontchew]

Yes yes yes

[@Krustyclown5791]

The injustice has been going on for nearly 90yrs hurting millions of Australians. Even as a stage 4 cancer patient they make it difficult for me. Its an absolute joke. Look at Thailand or Colorado legalization dropped crime rates and made it safer. Im sick of having to leave the country to get better medication and my not treated like crim . Thanks you for pushing 4 help on this. I tell you its a nightmare and i think we get discriminated for it.

[@oldieman730]

Thank you

[@phoenixdownunda]

Thanks mate.

[@timarbon994]

He speaks common sense and i agree with his arguments.

[@Wokeresistance]

I'm on medical cannibus. They got me for driving impaired when THC was merely in my blood.

[@feckdrinkgirls]

sorry, but caring about your problems is woke. you're on your own princess.

[@johnathanwebb]

If we lower the regulation around cannabis use, then the Australian public will be less tied to the big pharmaceutical companies. Which is exactly what the government DOES NOT WANT…

[@user-gz1hu5px1z]

And Doctors do not want this either, less revenue for them. There would be at least 50 percent decrease in people visiting Doctors for scripts . People would be much happier and be out in the garden tending their medicinal herb.

[@woopimagpie]

Figures from other parts of the world have shown it wouldn't actually change all that much. Anyone who has the motivation and ability to grow cannabis is pretty much already doing it. Despite it being illegal there's an awful lot of cannabis in circulation, and has been for years. The pharmaceutical companies have just switched from opioids to cannabis (almost all the opium poppy fields in Tasmania have shut down and been replaced with cannabis farms). We've always had the ability to grow opium poppies too, and many do, and it didn't affect the pharmaceutical industry at all. The home growers aren't the market the pharmaceutical companies are targeting. It wouldn't make much difference. All it will mean is that the home growers are no longer considered criminals in the eyes of the law, thus freeing up law enforcement resources to pursue actual criminals. The Police want law reform, they are sick of arresting people for smoking weed.

[@johnathanwebb]

@@woopimagpie I would argue that while it is illegal to grow and cultivate for your own use, many people will take the legal option, which is prescribed, and highly priced. If it was changed so that people could grown their own, I would be very surprised if the medical industry did not see a loss in revenue, sales etc…

[@woopimagpie]

@@user-gz1hu5px1z I come from a family of Doctors and medicos, they all want the laws changed. All the GPs I know are booked up for weeks, it's almost impossible to get a timely appointment. They would welcome a few less patients. Almost all the medicinal cannabis is being prescribed and distributed by specialist cannabis clinics, most regular GPs will just refer you to one of the clinics anyway so it won't affect their revenue in the least. The last time I needed an appointment for the clinic I get scripts from there was a two week wait, so I highly doubt anyone in the industry will care. They're all so overworked they'd probably welcome a few less appointments.

[@woopimagpie]

@@johnathanwebb It's not highly priced. Prescription weed is roughly the same cost as street weed. $120-$150 for 10 grams of high quality freeze dried buds is arguably a better deal than you can buy on the street. And growing your own is not nearly as easy and cheap as many seem to think.

[@ROARTORQUE]

Yes. Well said. Great to see politicians making sense.

[@adamwalker1132]

Good on you David Limerick well said

[@LibertariansAus]

Thanks for your kind words! It means a lot. 😃

[@adamwalker1132]

@@LibertariansAus your most welcome

[@benjaminford1863]

Thank you for your work regarding this subject. I absolutley agree with everything you brought to the table on this. Im personally a tee totaler but this issue causes far more damaging social consequences than it does good.

[@LibertariansAus]

Thank you for your support! David Limbrick often says it's a true litmus test for distinguishing between genuine believers in freedom and those who merely claim to be. If someone thinks the government should dictate which herbs you can consume under the threat of jail time, they have no business talking about freedom.

[@missdemeanor1345]

Im South Australia there has been cases of police tampering with tests they say you have tested positive but refuse to show the results saying its not their policy to show you the test results a corupt cop with a vendetta can ruin a persons life

[@tonybony5805]

Absolutely true !

[@sumgamelab]

It says it in the MAC adds; direct quote "You can get caught long after the high is gone". If the high is gone then what is the problem?

[@davidvanbeek7761]

I actually am one of the very lucky one people that fought and won my case and defeated the police prosecution with the charge of drug driving mind you it took over fourteen months to achieve this result, but it all came down to the peer reviewed paper by Professor Tom Arkel who stated 240 -300 minutes post treatment of medical cannabis you are deemed FIT TO DRIVE. The prosecution scrambled with a suitable defense for this evidence and admitted defeat when they could not rebut this scientific defense. I hope my story can assist others facing this injustice however it must be acknowledged by your health professional and stated as the recommendations that you are to adhere to whilst using medical cannabis.

[@fantomghost6213]

The point this guy makes is very valid. Crazy laws make people do crazy things. Just legalize cannabis and get it done already

[@catchatoricat]

I was prescribed medical cannabis for debilitating arthritis, 0.2ml [50mg CBD] morning and night, I have found zero side effects, zero 'high' feeling, the arthritis has virtually disappeared. I was taking all kinds of prescribed drugs before [arthrexin, meloxicam etc.] which didn't help. My fear is being pulled over and tested. Thanks for highlighting the issue in parliament, David.

[@enterpassword3313]

The tests dont detect cbd as far as i understand, so as long as your oil is pure cbd

[@catchatoricat]

@@enterpassword3313 Thank-you, I wasn't sure of that. I was hoping someone might pull me up on it. Have a great day!!

[@sp3876]

CBD can not show up on swabs. Ask your doctor they will tell you the same.

[@user-zk1hv7mk9v]

Cause no harm, receive no penalty !! Simple. Correlation is not causation. Want to know why people are rubbish drivers ? Look at the method of learning & the lack of skill required to pass a driving test.

[@Wombat-y7t]

A NSW Court found the same and dimissed the case….

[@Antony_Jenner]

Motor safety experts found that the driving skills of people who were sick were estimated to drop by about 50 percent when compared with those who were healthy. They were more likely to have reduced reaction time and experience a major loss of concentration, so much so that the researchers compared people who were driving under the weather to people who were driving under the influence of "four double whiskeys." So when will the Government start testing for impairment due to illness?

[@enterpassword3313]

I would also argue i have much better reflexes and coordination than the average person, so i would still be a better driver than average after 6 beers. But you cant really codify a law to account for that. Same way they cant really test how impaired you are from sleep

[@JR-ho1yr]

Its not just the fact that they bust you for it and you loose your licence think how much money they make out of the fines its bloody disgusting millions!

[@jasonscott7803]

Hear Hear!

[@boar7153]

You only have to look at the mining industry in Australia to know this guy is talking the truth. The amount of people using heavy drugs so they don’t get caught instead of using cannabis is overwhelming.

[@stronghold500]

First rule of safety. Never create another hazard. Your spot on David. This is the way of the street.

[@pranicmegan]

And then there are those of us like me who are older, live out country, and are forced to live in constant pain because I can't afford to lose my license and drugs from the doctor makes me feel like a zombie and kills my brain, that is I can't think clearly when I take doctor prescribed pain meds. I don't want pharmacueticals so the only other choice is live in pain.

[@mephistopholese6889]

it`s blatantly unfair...

[@keithhamilton60]

The cops have never tested anyone in Australia ever for opiates ,you can be off your head and still drive.

[@herewegoagain404]

Welcome to Australia. This is how we roll.

[@roykelly5486]

Love from Canada:) well said sir

[@LibertariansAus]

Thank you 💖

[@trentjorgensen4629]

Loosing your licence for cannabis or speeding without a prior record of wreck less driving is total injustice. You are stripping some people of their livelihoods when you do this and ruining their lives for what should be minor offences.

[@hamiltongoodall2239]

They are not interested if you are on drugs at work they are interested in total control of what you can and can't do in your private life, it's all about total control and dictatorship and the piss test for drugs at work quite clearly proves that because it does not and cannot prove that you are under the influence of drugs at the time of testing but it does tell them what you do in the privacy of your own home, like i said total control and dictatorship of your private life.

[@lucasroe2878]

Judges, courts police and jails make money at every level from an unwarranted arrest. They also enable the illegal drugs market buy adding value. They care about one thing, and that is collecting revenue.

[@DontForgetOldKolobok]

My bong is medicinal! Leave my licence alone!

[@honestpat7789]

So, I’m a medical cannabis user. What do I do if I’m tested 🤷‍♂️

[@Wombat-y7t]

Heavy Vehicle Fatigue Laws are the same….. Penalties can be applied even if you have just had a 6-8hr sleep… Its a nonsense….

[@rebekahfrench5747]

All for the revenue nothing to do with safety.. instant criminal drive a truck.. no young person with a sound mind would even entertain taking up driving a truck just to be fined more than you make its a fucking joke..

[@dennistighe-drums]

Nicely said, I'd like to take CBD/thc oil for my cancer ,but I can't because I need to be able to drive.

[@bencordell1965]

How many times can tou be randomly drug tested on th side of the road? Once a week ? Every day? Every 20 metres

[@sfirlaki]

It shouldn't be JUST for medical users, it should be for ALL. In Australia, we DON'T discriminate due to medical reasons, therefore we MUST treat it the same way we do alcohol.

[@tonyhanley9458]

They can run 30 THC tests and probably only one or 2 roadside impaired driving test.every man and his dog is in benzos. Mothers little helpers, woman used to call them and the gp’s who have been prescribing them since the 80’s at least. So many legal addicts in benzos. Generations of them F a benzo is a much bigger problem

[@bitemedontchew]

That's bloody so true thankyou

[@davidwebb4594]

Same problem in NZ, and they wonder why there is a "Crack" problem. Random drug testing at work is as bad if not worse, People using "Crack" instead of Cannabis, as have a joint on the W/E or evening, next day go to work (If you get there and not stopped by Police) tested and positive, yet not impaired. And Kiwis called lazy for not wanting to work

[@sunshine182]

Agree. I'm also in NZ. I think workplace/employment agency urine testing for THC should either be stopped or adjusted so that it's based on actual impairment not just because it's detected in your fat cells. If you're not 'impaired' why should you be punished?

[@elizabethdale6558]

David Limbrick, What a guy! We need more politicians like him. He's not shy of sticking it to the police and politicians, Legend.!

[@LibertariansAus]

Thank you 🙂

[@marlinblack6597]

Here, here.

[@jesseallan3886]

I have a prescription for cannabis and failed a drug test. I lost my licence indefinitely and was labelled as a drug addict. I would need to stop taking my medication for 2 or more months in order to pass a urine test to get my licence. WTF?

[@gordonmoore7302]

This actually happened to me 2 weeks ago. Ive been charged with presence in saliva but not for level of impairment. This is will be citing in court.

[@offgridjohn871]

The right not to incriminate oneself is paramount.

[@stevestewart9282]

Except its an American concept and doesn't exist in any official form here in Australia.

[@offgridjohn871]

@@stevestewart9282 rubbish.. read the Uniform Evidence Acts..I have been held against my will by dumb cops with the same lack of knowledge.

[@offgridjohn871]

@@stevestewart9282 Rubbish...look up the Uniform Evidence Acts..you must be a cop

[@yevrahhipstar3902]

A stoner driver is less impaired than a Tesla autopilot.

[@shanewatt3640]

When I go to work I am subjected to random alcohol and drug testing. When Lawmakers legislate what level of impairment is there after a lunch of wine and figjams?

[@LibertariansAus]

😂

[@UberKvlt]

Next thing they’ll ban the sale of apple cider vinegar….wink wink

[@aquariussoda007]

This is the best point brought to the surface in a long time , and totally agree by what David put out there . Laws need to change , but again there is no money in having a sensible law .

[@LibertariansAus]

Your support means the world to us - thank you! The Libertarian Party we'll never stop trying to get rid of bad laws. :D

[@anthonyfiolet8930]

You can drive impaired on opiates method one etc but deprived of the best least harm cancer medicine this is a tragedy my partner just died of cancer had her license taken away shame on my government 😢

[@ing5088]

Every crash I’ve ever had that was my fault was when I was heavily pregnant. 😬 that’s when I seem to be impaired!

[@mofosamo]

Thc can stay in your system for up to 6 weeks. How can someting you take literally weeks ago impair your ability to function?

[@Healthliving1967]

I got done on a roadside test over 10 years ago for THC in my system. I had smoked the day before and at least 12 hours passed between when I was impaired and when I was driving, I was clearly not under the influence but still lost my licence for 3 months and got a hefty court fine of $500.00. This bs must be changed.

[@grantgodbee1804]

Going through a case now

[@hemmoau]

Wow I don't normally care for libertarianism cos it's too extreme, didn't realise Australia's libertarian party was willing to allow reasonable amounts of intervention given that we're a modern society. I've only seen a few videos on this channel but the viewpoints are so balanced that if you aren't an outright authoritarian you'd have to reasonably agree.

[@james4680]

He gets my vote . We all need to think outside the box or least alternative methods need to be considered. There is a massive downside, "life long chronic reliance." Rather, making it, the answer perhaps include as part of the solution. In these times we have all the tools and most of the knowledge but sadly it comes down to revenue and government apathy.

[@davidvanbeek7761]

HERE HERE! Well-spoken but alas it will again fall on deaf ears how wonderful that you bring up the subject of other prescription drugs that are responsible for leaving you feeling impaired whilst driving but if that was the case big pharma would potentially lose millions of revenues simply because people would stay away from using these types of medications

[@electricjoshaloo]

Police aren't taught to think, they are taught to follow basic orders. As long as the legislation says a positive indication for metabolites is illegal then it will be enforced that way without discretion or common sense.

[@batfink274]

Another no brainer the Gov will ignore. Why waste your time talking to a brick wall?

[@axeman2638]

There can be no crime without a victim. I don't care what drugs you are on, if you can drive safely then you shouldn't be harassed.

[@rebekahfrench5747]

They victimize everyone to make revenue.. nothing to do with safety or competent operator..

[@colinfielder6695]

Well said David. Long over due! " we will get you longer after the high is over " That's a sign on our roads. If your not high then what is the issue?

[@CraigBudden]

Im rastafarian and its part of my religious belief and I'm to scared to drive 50 klms to do my shopping or go to the doctors im 62 many medical issues and it seems that I can't get pension because im not taking big pharmaceuticals drugs.

[@kizzjd9578]

The thing is, the alcohol impairment testing isnt correct, yet we have been using it for ages. 0.05% for a bloke thats 200kg will feel like a drink of water compared to someone who is 50kg.

[@jimidangertv4569]

If i had one joint and was stoned for 3 days i would be a happy and wealthy man . But a 3hr stone is gone by a nights sleep . 👍