David Tepper and the Carolina Panthers: The Rhules of Engagement

The Carolina Panthers are a hot mess. Even glancing at them for a few seconds this season can show you that. However, going after a few low blows against an irrelevant and dead franchise is too easy. We have to go deeper (like a few inches deeper): We have to look at new owner David Tepper's reign.
It hasn't been good so far, but a lot of new owners take plenty of missteps. This is a crossroads for the organization. Will he right the ship? Or will he double down on his current way of doing things and continue to keep Carolina in the muck.
This is more a video to look back on in a few years to see if things have changed. Let's hope it does.

[@kaminsod4077]

I've been waiting years for a Panthers video from UTree. Finally we get some recognition for being such a trainwreck.

[@9124Nove]

I know, right?

[@MP-mr1jy]

Idk how you all do this. I’m a Steelers fan, and one bad year is making me die inside lol

[@lancemclean2592]

YEA…yea

[@parkerdavis7859]

@@MP-mr1jy Stockholm syndrome

[@nopenope2550]

The only time the Panthers get any recognition is when they're a trainwreck.

[@9124Nove]

"Sometimes it takes failure to create success." As a Panthers fan, I pray every season for that to be true.

[@scottwagner2566]

I'm reminded of Jon Bois' Chart Party video where he ranks the NFL franchises by volatility (The average differences between the number of wins and losses for each team each season.) The Panthers ranked 1st. I didn't realize as a ten year old in 1996 that picking the Panthers as my favorite NFL team would mean a 25 year roller coaster.

[@oN3xShOtxkilL]

As a Jets fan if we make the playoffs that’s our Super Bowl sadly

[@HuskerNinja]

Unfortunately, that only works if the people at the top realize their mistakes and actually take steps to fix it. I don't know about you, but David Tepper does not strike me as that sort of dude.

[@FelipeYoshioCordeirodeSouza]

@@HuskerNinja Rhule still isn't either

[@nathangilbert7889]

@@scottwagner2566 Jon bois is the goat

[@johnk.7058]

"Tepper came to Rock Hill promising us Jerry Jones, and ever since then he's given us Dan Snyder" wow, I don't think a more scathing quote is possible

[@FelipeYoshioCordeirodeSouza]

And even if he did give Jerry it could still be a disaster, it was closer to today's Jerry

[@AEMoreira81]

Dan Snyder at least paid his bills.

[@davidvelazquez9473]

Who's here after the Jaguars blew out the Panthers 26-0, and David Tepper dumped his drink on a Jaguars fan? This video definitely aged beautifully! 👌 UPDATE: The NFL hit him with a $300,000 fine as a result.

[@CJEstradaMartinez]

That's "Chump Change" to someone like David Tepper.

[@crupeoplemusic]

Over the summer, I had an internship with a company in Rock Hill, SC, and I had to drive past that facility every day. As a Panthers fan, driving past that building (if you can even call it that) was absolutely depressing and reminded me how far the Panthers had fallen from 2015.

[@flatoutinsult1826]

I live in rock hill and that shit is just a disgrace going by it

[@d234baum]

@@flatoutinsult1826 I pass by that allot when I drive from Fort Mill to Rock Hill, such a disgrace..

[@rollercoasterfweak]

Is it just a frame building or did they take it apart?

[@crupeoplemusic]

@@rollercoasterfweak no they just left it as is. it literally looks like a massive ramp

[@rollercoasterfweak]

@@crupeoplemusic that's pathetic. Wow

[@tyroddam]

As a Panthers fan, the thing that hurts the most is it feels like we lost our soul. Our culture. What made us such a passionate and lovable team all those years ago. It definitely shows with fans refusing to come to games now.

[@scottwagner2566]

A big part of that was Rhule. He was trying to get the fans to stop chanting "Keep Pounding" for God's sake. Wilks seems to be trying to bring the culture back a little. Hopefully he (or whoever the head coach is next year) keeps bringing it back.

[@FelipeYoshioCordeirodeSouza]

@@scottwagner2566 why did Rhule do that? Wilks is a former coordinator from there, so he knows how it goes, not a great coach, but

[@scottwagner2566]

@@FelipeYoshioCordeirodeSouza Never said why, but it was implied that it didn't match with "The Brand" he wanted to set in Carolina.

[@FelipeYoshioCordeirodeSouza]

@@scottwagner2566 and fucked up doing so

[@NeonBeeCat]

Seeing whats happened to the panthers team makes me sad, and im a Titans fan! Were basically still a houston team with a houston owner

[@nicolepinter9345]

Coming back to this video after Tepper spilled a drink on a Jaguars fan

[@AYoungAdultOnYoutube]

No no, he didn’t spill. He THREW it on a Jags fan

[@DSPHistoricalSociety]

_"spilled"_

[@MrOfficialscotty]

We need an updated video on him 🤣🤣🤣🍿

[@Veishan]

You asked for it, you got it! Lol

[@parkerdavis7859]

Thank you for covering my team’s plight in more detail.

[@justinwilliams1127]

With Richardson, it felt like a family. With Tepper, it's a business.

[@CJEstradaMartinez]

In the updated video, it stated Jerry Richardson cared about the Panthers fans.

[@xoelliott]

As a Panthers fan I knew this video would be coming and deservedly so

[@chaostopia]

Fr

[@HurricaneGrims]

Same mate

[@appapablanstiasia7910]

it’s a painful life we live

[@samnetta2412]

Same 🥲

[@tommybavaro6646]

David Tepper might be the Arte Moreno of the NFL

[@AutoArtemAuto]

Throwing drinks onto other fans because he ruined the team he bought. Dan Snyder 2.0

[@yammt3148]

We need a sequel.

[@demetriuspm.122]

In 3 years

[@STSGuitar16]

The lack of attendance absolutely IS NOT because the city doesn't care about the Panthers, it's because the city despises David Tepper. I have been a Panther fan my entire life and never have I felt so disconnected from this team. I honestly can't even pinpoint a single positive thing he has done for the franchise since he bought it. Tepper has sucked every single tiny bit of soul out of this franchise almost single-handedly, yet he shows no signs of slowing down on continuing to make awful football decisions. That, along with the fact that he just has this know-it-all, condescending demeanor about him all the time (which absolutely does not fly in the south)....it just makes him incredibly unlikeable. When the owner constantly talks down to the fanbase and tries to obfuscate the truth from the media, something isn't right. The worst part is, the fans can do absolutely nothing about it. Tepper will just move the team to a different market and try to build his empire from the group up before he would sell the Carolina Panthers. It is a perfectly awful situation to be in. I can't even see the light at the end of this tunnel at this point.

[@AEMoreira81]

Kind of like George Shinn. Charlotte was willing to build a new facility but not for Shinn. After he moved the initial Hornets, Charlotte was almost instantly granted an expansion team.

[@STSGuitar16]

@@AEMoreira81 the only positive thing about the hornets that I can think of are their absolutely dope color scheme and uniforms lol. That purple and teal together looks awesome

[@envymeh_]

My friend who is a big Panthers fan went to that home game against San Fran! And the amount of Red you would see in that stadium was honestly embarrassing… Such a dumpster fire of an organization in such a beautiful city.

[@thesuperiorkitten]

Im a Huge Panthers fan and I know it’s depressing

[@evanrox1]

Gotten Worse: He threw a drink at a JAX Fan

[@adamthespinygiant]

I would pursue assault charges against him if I were that fan

[@grahammartin7798]

Ah yes, 10 minutes explaining how the team I grew up loving completely screwed my hometown

[@YaBoyLogann]

Not the first time a terrible owner has done us dirty. *cough* George Shinn *cough*

[@natem1579]

The team has been in the toilet for over a decade, I'm a 20 year old Charlottean and i can't remember a time where the team was ever "good" besides that miracle 2015 season.

[@christiandejesus7648]

​@@natem1579 that other miracle season you guys had was 2003.

[@FelipeYoshioCordeirodeSouza]

​@@YaBoyLogannhope he suffers for the rest of his life

[@SuperTreybo]

Natem they went 11-5 in 2017 and got wildcard and lost saints playoffs that was last good year

[@turbokart3776]

I've missed this kind of content from you, Tree. Thank you for coming back to this analytic style, even if it's just for a video.

[@gauravagochiya4218]

Don’t worry. While Sportsball and Clickbait are what’ll take up a lot of his time (along with Greatest Games), he’ll still find time to make deep videos analyzing what went wrong with organizations with painful declines from their glory days. That’s something that you can never take away from him.

[@JusticeForPottsvilleMaroons]

This might need an update soon

[@9124Nove]

Finally!!! I've been waiting years for Tree to do a video about my Panthers and as expected, he hit the nail on the head with my team's issues with Tepper.

[@richardmount543]

When the graphic came up “ this fucking guy” with Dan Snyders clip … I died laughing 😂

[@terrencecarter1915]

Man... Washington Fans Deserve better ownership.

[@edwardoutlawjr8154]

@@terrencecarter1915 Skins fan here and can't stand that dude

[@kaphizmey6229]

@@terrencecarter1915washington fan from the future, the football gods heard our pleas! snyder is no more 💪🏻🔥

[@CJEstradaMartinez]

@@edwardoutlawjr8154 As a lifelong Dallas Cowboys fan, I miss those spirited rivalries on Thanksgiving Day. I can't stand him either, and I'm glad he's finally gone.

[@CJEstradaMartinez]

I liked the second clip that included "Once again, this fucker."

[@BiltzBoi]

This video is going to need an update.

[@jakesarratt]

i think something that wasn’t mentioned but showed me who Tepper was early on was when he changed the field to turf from the iconic grass. to me, that showed what he really thought about the team as he only did that to have events all year round rather than just using the stadium for football and the occasional concert

[@philly_sports1558]

Matt Rhule is a great college coach that in no way translated to the NFL. As a Temple alum, our football program was garbage for decades before Rhule took over and he turned us into a perennial bowl contender. Once he left, we won with his recruits until we became garbage again. I really hoped for the best for him in the NFL but it just didn’t work. Which happens for a lot of college guys making the transition. At least he’s not a garbage human being like Bobby Petrino, Urban Meyer, or Chip Kelly.

[@ChairmanMo]

Sounds like Matt Rhule should have stayed as a College Coach and if he had he would be a Sports God!

[@bobsnow6242]

Throwing all that money at him was insane. Even the all-time great college coaches very rarely pan out well in the pros - just look at Lou Holtz or Nick Saban. It's just a completely different game from the culture to the recruiting/signing to the play on the field to drawing up playbooks and schemes to the politics and money behind the scenes to a billion other things that make each respective sporting ecosystem unique unto itself. It's apples and oranges.

[@thewheatness]

@@ChairmanMo if he's able to work magic with Nebraska's program then I think people will begin to sweep his pro stint under the rug...no one talks about Nick Saban's tenure with the Dolphins lol

[@ChairmanMo]

@@thewheatness What you are saying is true unless this one caveat holds. I would add is that Nick Saban did not fleece the Dolphins the way Matt Rhule did. You can forgive and forget about losing a lot of things but losing money...is not one of them.

[@allthingsgaming6]

What did Chip Kelly do? Seems a bit strange to be comparing him to Petrino and Meyer. I guess he did make some dumbass trades, though…

[@PeacefulViewer]

As a Panthers fan, I think this was definitely a fair assessment to the problems that the organization and staff fell into. At this point, I believe we need a coach and GM with a vision of what this team can be and can build talent around them. The biggest problem is the soul of the team has gone for about two years which is making people leave in droves. We can only keep pounding and hope to rebuild strong.

[@MazeDaGr8]

I am a Ravens fan through-and-through but over the years I've always had a soft spot for the Carolina Panthers. I was even proud of them when they made it to the Super Bowl in 2015

[@MonstaMayhem]

Last time I clicked on a notification so quickly, Cam Newton was an MVP quarterback

[@kaminsod4077]

Imagine if Cam had a decent Oline for more than one season and wasn't the victim of countless ignored cheap shots.

[@MonstaMayhem]

@@kaminsod4077 if only that was the case, still would be a starter now

[@Jeremy_theGent]

We need a Revisiting video.

[@rizkyanandita8227]

Not yet, not until Bryce Young leave and succeed somewhere or declared a bust. I pray for the 1st option.

[@spicyboi2223]

Been a Panthers fan my whole 17 years of living. And ever since Tepper bought the team it's just kinda lost its soul. Even going to the games just feels different then when I was little. Yeah Jerry Richardson was problematic but under him we went to two super bowls. Had some all time great moments. Never had people on the stands chanting to fire the coach. This team just feels so much more different than the one I've watched all my life ever since Tepper took over. It seems all I see him talk about is profits. New stadiums, new practice facilities etc. Never anything about the actual game. Im not saying we should bring Jerry back but get an owner that actually cares Atleast we always have the Hurricanes.

[@leandroramos3041]

The Panthers are falling as the Canes rise, it's interesting to see

[@spicyboi2223]

@@leandroramos3041 Yeah total opposite of how it was when i was younger. Meanwhile Hornets/Bobcats always underdeliver

[@rocknrollstar2798]

Amen dude. I'm a decade older than you and I can say with certainty the games had a certain spark to them in the old days. I went to BOA stadium two dozen times. Yeah some years were frustrating but the team was competitive for the most part. Fox and Rivera were good coaches. But where they are now is pathetic.

[@djtrankilo231]

Better hope the Canes win a Cup soon, otherwise, Canes are slowly replicating the Panthers

[@baxatakbaxatak2014]

You had back to back longtime coaches in John Fox and Ron Rivera. Richardson for all his shit was absolutely a better owner than Baby Mike Brown.

[@TheBulbasaurKing]

A reminder that this franchise was 15-1 and made a Super Bowl in 2015. Now, that team is completely unrecognizable.

[@CJEstradaMartinez]

Your team barely won two football games in 2023.

[@bryanmcloud4121]

For owners, it comes down to three things: 1. Shut the f*** up 2. Get out of the way. 3. Open your checkbook. You do those three things you might have a shot in ownership.

[@CJEstradaMartinez]

Owners should be seen and never heard.

[@ZhangtheGreat]

The late Jerry Buss, who owned the Lakers for 34 years, was once asked what his "secret" was to successful ownership. His answer was simple: hire the right people and get out of the way. Some owners simply don't learn or can't accept this.

[@andrewgossett7341]

As a sport management major at Winthrop University (in Rock Hill), I very much appreciate you making this video. My classmates, teachers, and I were very much looking forward to the new facility; it would’ve brought so many new sports business jobs to the city, and it’s now all gone due to one man’s ignorance. Screw Tepper.

[@adamthespinygiant]

Congratulations 2023 Carolina Panthers on being the 1st team ELIMINATED from playoff eligibility. Even worse, the Bears have your first round pick. David Tepper deserves this. THERE ARE 17 IMPOSTERS REMAINING…

[@a17yearoldonyoutubeluigi]

You're thumbnails are getting more advanced, love it.

[@EdgeHeadFUHaters]

Panthers are always one of those teams I would love to suddenly break out and win titles. Mostly because I think their uniforms and logo are cool lol. Other than that they've but together two of my favorite teams ever. The super bowl run against the Pats in 2003 and the 15-1 Panthers squad that lost against Denver. I am still sad Matt Rhule didn't work because I LOVED his college work.

[@randysavage5272]

Your videos about covering ownership and management of teams are great Tree, there is alot to laugh at in those 2 positions across all the sports leagues we have.

[@adamthespinygiant]

Who’s back after they ended the season by being shutout in 2 consecutive games?

[@bigj1905]

8:14 Tepper: *Slams desk* “Trade away our entire draft future and give away one of our best players to the Chicago Bears in exchange for Bryce Young.” Yeah…. I think the Panthers might be in trouble for the foreseeable future.

[@willflint5014]

What also sucks about Tepper is that he is trying to take the Panther’s Training Camp out of Spartanburg. Which is where I live. I am not a Panthers fan but the Panthers coming to Spartanburg every year since there inception is a big deal to the city. I think it brings a lot to the city but I have not looked at the records. Still, I like them coming to my city and it means a lot to the people of Spartanburg. NC and SC would rather watch college football but will still watch the Panthers on Sunday. I am hoping they keep their training camp here. Sorry York County and Rock Hill.

[@kriger619]

I have lived in Charlotte my entire life, nearly 33 years now. Been watching football since '94. And yes I am a Panthers fan, but I also tear into them more than most these past few years. Thanks for the video Tree, was fun to watch and hear more truths being spoken. Tepper needs to go.

[@keetenwiggins7802]

Yeah we need to do a revision on this owner. Dude threw a drink towards a fan

[@amaze_z1953]

Tfw you hire a college coach that never won a ranked game

[@RS-cd8dx]

I hope he does well in Nebraska though

[@Kaisaccountt]

Matt Rhule was a horrible head coach. He had 3 years to draft and develop a quarterback but instead chose to go after these below average quarterbacks instead.

[@Plockman29]

@@Kaisaccountt he didn't make any draft picks, he said so himself. He said he'd do things differently, sure, but how people like you don't understand that GM's make those decisions and if the visions between front office and coaching staff don't align (multiple multiple instances across all pro sports of power struggles) it always fails. Real life isn't madden

[@Kaisaccountt]

@@Plockman29 I’m pretty sure he’s responsible for figuring out the quarterback situation though. In his 3 years he didn’t which is one of the reasons why he got fired.

[@theverburger]

Harbaugh is the only college coach that isn't a risky hire rn because he has success at the NFL level but he is staying at Michigan so I don't think any other college coaches are worth the risk rn

[@Matooose]

Who's here after Frank Reich got fired 12 weeks into his four year deal?

[@thekingbarrelmaker7642]

Even though Reich did a terrible job this season, I can't name a coach that would have succeeded here. He was just a scapegoat that diverted attention from the real problem. We all know who that is.

[@MazeDaGr8]

This team has just been on a downward spiral since the final days of both Cam Newton & Jerry Richardson. And now David Tepper has come in and somehow made everything a hell of a lot worse

[@jacksonhancock545]

Great video. I’ve lived in Charlotte my entire life and I am a HUGE Panthers fan. Ever since tepper has taken over, the Panthers have been the laughingstock of the city. After the whole rock hill situation, his face has been on my dart board. Thank you for highlighting how that screwed over the taxpayer and not the team.

[@BrownMan59]

Can't wait to see the Raiders version of this.

[@sawyertuide7636]

As I’ve said if he does a video on this team it needs to start at the season of Al’s death and the end of his era of failed rebuilds since the SB wins (2011). The New Raiders consist of dysfunction, cooked experienced coaches who know nothing but failure, Derek Carr being the NFL’s Phil Kessel, and perpetual failure

[@daninda1665]

The owner needs to do like what Tree talked about in Jed York: Take a step back, let your football guys run the team, and take care of the Rock Hill situation, whether that is making amends, or at least settling disputes. He stands as the representative of pro football in Carolina, and needs to set that example of caring for the players, the employees within the franchise and stadium, and the fans that come to the games, watch the games, or live in the communities that the franchise has an effect on.

[@palmer.jake1]

Yes! Tree made a video about the Panthers! We have a chance for his jinx to turn our organization around in the coming years now!

[@AutoArtemAuto]

Tepper failed this organization and Bryce Young.

[@user-fq5ki9bf9t]

Coming back to this after the season from hell. The culture is so long gone it feels like it was all a dream. I think when it’s all said and done Tepper will have been worse than Snyder

[@JackCallSports]

0:18 he was that fucking guy

[@adamthespinygiant]

This season is starting to reveal that David Tepper is in contention with Michael Bidwill and Dean Spanos for the title of Dan Snyder 2.0.

[@MazeDaGr8]

I don't think we will ever see another NFL owner worse than Dan Snyder

[@adamthespinygiant]

@@MazeDaGr8 his only real competition is the founder of the Commanders/Football Team/Redskins: George Preston Marshall. He was a full-blown racist: - pro-segregation - refused to allowed players of color onto the team roster until the government forced him to in 1962. - statues made of him were destroyed

[@omarawad5696]

Looks like Dan Snyder never left the league He simply morphed into David Tepper

[@jesfel14]

Well, in that case, he is like how can I speedrun it this time?

[@lockheedsr-71blackbird48]

It's crazy to think that there's a worse owner than Dean Spanos, and the fact that he doesn't even have to have to be called by his name is amazing

[@UserName-ts3sp]

dan snyder is the worst owner… not even tepper or spanos are as bad as that fool

[@Jrodsly]

I'm glad you did a video on this team. After seeing Tepper run this team into the ground so far, I'm at the point of not caring about them until they give me a reason to. The Hurricanes give me way more of a reason to care than the Panthers have, especially given the cost difference for going to games.

[@SlingstoneGiantKiller]

It's finally happening: Tree made a Panthers video! I'm now counting down to us becoming competitive like some of the other lolcows he's called out over the years.

[@StarkRaven59]

His Maple Leafs video is two years old and the Laughs still haven't won a fourth game of any playoff series since. You can claim the Tree Jinx, but it doesn't work on everyone.

[@SlingstoneGiantKiller]

@@StarkRaven59 With the Panthers' luck, we'll emulate the Maple Leafs.

[@miserq4189]

Absolutely love your work with this style of vid… Well done!

[@JeebusEast]

I was born the same year the Panthers came into being and I have lived in Charlotte all my life. So believe me when I say, we know our team and we love our team. Our pocket skyline decks itself out in blue for every game home or away. They even flash whenever we score a touchdown at home. But this just isn't it. Tepper wants to run it like the Steelers, but that's not who we are. We're a scrappy underdog operation. Even in the 2015 season where we went on a massive win streak we were still undervalued and underestimated. But instead of getting a chip on our shoulder, we thrived on that narrative. A lot of people seem to think it as simple as Bad Team = Empty Stadium. But it just isn't. We've been bad before, but I've never seen this kind of apathy. We used to be the Cardiac Cats. We played every game down to the wire, win or lose. We played in what was probably the most turbulent division in the league and could never quite be counted out. Panthers football was ugly, rough, and in your face. We had big personalities and big hearts. A lot of people seem to think it was just Cam. But that ignores players like Steve Smith, Muhsin Muhammad, Jake Delhome, and of course Sam Mills. Tepper gutted this organization of all that. And worst of all, he doesn't even seem to realize he did that.

[@Aging_Casually_Late_Gamer]

I don't know why, but when the panthers first showed up, I picked it as my favorite team as a kid. And sadly I've always been disappointed.

[@erictaylor4757]

Been watching you since 2016, finally a video on my team and well deserved

[@Tyrunner0097]

A common theme with these sports owners is sticking their nose and hands where they don't belong. The successful sports team owners are the owners who stay in the wings, just pay the bills and hire the right people to run the day-to-day operations. In the NBA, for my Bucks, we have Edens and Lasry. When they first bought the team in 2014, they did initially go the meddling route. They made a trade with the Nets to get their coach, Jason Kidd...when Larry Drew was still under contract to coach the Bucks. Fortunately, after the first few years, Lasry and Edens changed their approach. Lasry left the main ownership role to Edens, and Lasry would just help sign the checks in the background. They let team president Peter Feigen run the business side, and GM Jon Horst run the basketball operations. Since 2018, the Bucks have become a dominant contender in the NBA, with a once-a-generation superstar in Giannis signed long-term, a strong supporting cast, and Milwaukee's first major pro sports championship in 50 years. A great example of team owners who don't try to meddle with how the team operates and make the franchise all about them, instead of the team.

[@christmashake8968]

I would also posit that team owners' main responsibility, even outside of making the right hires, balancing out a team's finances with its championship aspirations, and knowing when to let someone with more knowledge of their field do their job, is building a welcoming and successful culture and philosophy that everyone in the organization can get behind. It's not a coincidence that horrible teams also often have horrible front offices/corporate cultures; as with any business, any place with employees full of fear, anger, and/or selfishness is not one that can ever operate to the best of its ability--a boss' tendencies and philosophies is ALWAYS reflected in their underlings sooner or later, even more so if they feel they're above accountability. An owner who goes out of their way to NOT allow these things to happen, imo, can go a long way towards transmitting a similar culture to the people in charge of putting the actual team and locker room together--thus improving the team's chances of winning and competing for greater glories on the field.

[@alightthatnevergoesout]

We have a great, young team. Lots of really good young pieces on defense - Burns, Horn, Brown, Luvu, Chinn. We’ve drafted really well on that side of the ball. On offense, our line is in great shape. Anchored by Ikem Ekonwu, a fantastic draft pick. Deserves a nomination for OROY. Corbett, Bozeman, Moton and Christensen have gelled really well. We have great weapons like DJ Moore, Foreman and a really promising one in Terrace Marshall. Our trade package for Cmac will be one of the last great packages for a Running Back ever given the replaceability of the position. The Rhule hire fucked us, and we’ve struggled massively with coaching and the QB position. But a new coach over the offseason, and drafting a Qb in the top 5, and we are right back in playoff contention. It’s not that bad. Not at all.

[@UrinatingTree]

That's why I mentioned this as a crossroads for the team. If they manage it properly, they can bounce back.

[@alightthatnevergoesout]

@@UrinatingTree great vid, king, keep hustling

[@MrRoaringRiot]

As a Panthers fan for a long time, my Panthers have been utterly disappointing and collapsed after the 2015 era. Nothing was never the same.

[@HI-hr5up]

2017 was the only year worth a damn since then...

[@HaydenU]

You got that right. The Rock Hill fiasco was the last straw for me

[@MrRoaringRiot]

@@HI-hr5up I know but I was talking about when the Panthers made a deep run in the postseason heading to the superbowl.

[@merritt2014]

The thing about coaches is that sometimes u really gotta give them time. Like Zac Taylor was considered one of the biggest disasters of a coach for a while there and now he's an absolutely incredible coach that has one of the best teams in the league fully bought in. May still have some play calling issues here and there, but certainly looked great last week against the Chiefs lol.

[@josepharmstrong1531]

To be fair, the Bengals were a disaster scene of a team in 2019. No coach would have done well with that team, and basically no veteran coordinators wanted to be associated with the team. They were better in 2020, but were brutally unlucky on defense and got injured to hell by the end of the year. Few NFL HC's would thrive in that situation.

[@BobBob-eb4io]

You mean now he is carried by the talent on his team

[@tightbhole420]

@@BobBob-eb4io you do realize this is the NFL and every team is carried by a few talented players

[@MrJohansen]

But Zac taylor didn't lie, have no self awareness, unironically think he was the greatest coach ever, and make the worst depth chart decisions imaginable as far as I'm aware. Rhule, however, checked all those boxes and was a constant reminder that some rando off the street would've been a smarter and better coach.

[@oN3xShOtxkilL]

5:42 this quote about Baker and then look at how he’s playing in Tampa ..

[@taptiotrevizo9415]

Finally, a video on the Panthers.

[@swadizzy]

I can't believe I was excited when they hired Rhule

[@d234baum]

I was too… Then the QB stuff…

[@thema1998]

First of all, what the hell was that CGI monstrosity at the end?! Second of all, the fact that Baker Mayfield was immediately able to get his first win with the Rams says a lot about the Panthers' ineptitude! 😧➡️😆

[@crupeoplemusic]

I was honestly wondering when this video would be coming as a Panthers fan :(

[@mistertaz94]

It's amazing how Tepper didn't even wait for Snyders body to cool before taking the crown of worst owner from his corpse 😂

[@glennlewis7142]

Thank you Tree! This perfectly articulates how we Panthers fans feel!

[@nickpirozzi6789]

I was at that game against the Niners and when I tell you it was a Niners home game, it felt like the chargers back at their soccer stadium

[@WILSON0001000]

Same. My mom and I were completely surrounded by niners fans. We had some Ravens fans behind us for some reason

[@baxatakbaxatak2014]

I stand corrected. He HAD his head coach in Steve Wilks, and told him to fuck to bring in Frank Reich, who is 0-5.

[@adamthespinygiant]

Make it 0-6 as they head into their bye as the last remaining winless team

[@sunlitsonata6853]

1-10 and FIRED

[@baxatakbaxatak2014]

@@sunlitsonata6853 I guarantee Wilks, Darnold, and DJ Moore would be doing better right now.

[@Beammeup87]

I'm 35 years old, I went to the Panthers first home game at Clemson stadium against the Rams (we lost). I have my ticket still from that home game. I've watched almost (97%+) every game the Panthers have played since they became a team. I lived in the Charlotte area for 25ish years, I've lived in Rock Hill, SC for my last 6 years. I am absolutely and totally apathetic to this team at this point. I have watched one game this year, the first game. This team has absolutely no direction, they said they were going to "rebuild" when they got rid of Cam and then they brought in Teddy Bridgewater, who doesn't suck enough for us to get a high draft pick. Instead of trading McCaffery they signed him to a massive contract. They have been trying to take short-cuts to achieve something when the team clearly sucks. That is the problem on the field, off the field Tepper is just another slimy, disgusting, billionaire. So yes, I was a passionate fan for 25ish years, now I don't care. Tepper has ruined the football team that I have cheered for my entire life. He has built a disgrace in Rock Hill, he is a horrendous, faithless, directionless, leader. This team sucks and I honestly doubt, with Tepper in charge, this team will stop sucking, for the next 10 years. Honestly, I'm just sad.

[@zscout370]

With other Panthers fans, this video was needed but also very spot on. We expected a lot of things changing going from Richardson to Tepper, but this just hurts.

[@davidvelazquez9473]

It came to the point where there was a sparse crowd at their game against the Falcons. Their 2nd win of the entire season.

[@Nevetswalks]

Both him and Haslam have only taught me that former minority Steelers shareholders tend to be terrible owners.

[@coruscant100]

A season later, the situation is even worse for Carolina. They have no coach, no GM, a QB who has no confidence, no offense, and the owner is so petty towards being beaten by other teams he'll deliberately throw beer on the opposing fans. I've never seen an owner quickly decimate a franchise THIS fast.

[@EricDaMAJ]

Thank you for showing that statue. It was my first great laugh of the morning.

[@oriolestragic-feelithappen4806]

Banger - i haven't even watched it yet, but i know it'll be elite.

[@Gimili10]

UT's researching/memory never cease to amaze!

[@Ilovesports977]

Hey Tree huge fan of your work and love your sense of humor. Love the sarcasm/enthusiasm/homework you put in with a little sprinkle of “analogy’s”.

[@rocknrollstar2798]

As a Panthers fan, I've been wondering when this moment would come. We've been an okay franchise. Not great but we fielded competitive teams and went to a couple Super Bowls. Now we're in a pretty rough spot and the apathy is settling in. Loved this team all my life but it needs to get better and fast. Great analysis, Tree. I had expected you to throw a Legacy of Failure bombshell our way but this was incredibly in depth and sound.

[@seand1011]

If the Panthers don't win a title by 2045, there should be a LOF video.

[@skakirask]

As a Giants fan I wanted Rhule, and we got Judge and the QB sneak on 3rd and 9. Luckily, that led to Daboll.

[@rayswagbroadax]

Such a well made video. Thank you for brining these atrocities to life - Sincerely, a lifelong Lanthers fan

[@jabarigreen4388]

My boy came in clutch👏🏿👏🏿

[@Nobody-kg8md]

As a Husker fan, I’m glad you gave a nice shoutout to our hire, I’m optimistic about his tenure with Nebraska, yet I’m buckled in for another shitty year.

[@nengehtardzer2839]

I'm surprised it took you this long to do a video on the panthers

[@dcisking1033]

This was a such a good video tree thank you for this

[@sw120]

As a Panthers fan, I'm both scared and excited to watch this video that I've been waiting on for years. Never had this feeling of Tree tearing my team to shreds, besides the lolmets videos

[@daveslist9114]

Being a Panthers fan these days requires an absolute deconstruction of any expectations. I think dumping Riverboat Ron was Tepper’s worst move. Ron was a steady hand and an inspirational cancer survivor, and we need someone like him again. Luke Kuechly retiring left me shell shocked and he will forever be my favorite player. No CMC, no HC, no QB, and worst of all we’ve been wasting a great, young defense. Should’ve kept Phil Snow, as it wasn’t his fault the defense would get tired after being on the field 45 minutes.

[@JeebusEast]

Agreed. Rivera should have been a legacy coach. We lost our soul with Tepper, but I think we lost our heart with Ron. At the end of the day the Panthers are just a linebacker kind of team.

[@IrvinAlvarado44]

Tepper also owns Charlotte FC and due to front office issues they let go of their first coach Miguel Ramirez 14 games into the season in fighting for playoffs spot and also prior to start of season he was frustrated that roster was not built up to par or have a training center ready. There was turnover on Charlotte FC front office as well. I smell tepper hands on and given the attendance for Charlotte fc was huge idk how long until fans see that success on the pitch will be dried up

[@Shadowgrace760]

To be fair, the interim head coach was much better anyway. Not to mention the players overall didn’t like MAR and it shows.

[@IrvinAlvarado44]

@@Shadowgrace760 much better result at half of the season. Although the turnover in soccer club and finding a facility still an issue I think I read their youth complex was suppose to be at where a mall used to be was axed. Charlotte FC goal is playoffs anything else it’s gonna be tough plan i the future

[@epicchk4319]

Maybe Cristiano Ronaldo will come for Retirement

[@IrvinAlvarado44]

@@epicchk4319 well he signed a 200 mil 2 year deal with a Saudi club so he will still at club level as for national level as of now I think he is done after losing to Morocco.

[@epicchk4319]

@@IrvinAlvarado44 I thought he declined the Offer from Al-Nasr

[@Crush1084]

There are slight signs of life. The Panthers actually invested in building an o-line for the first time in forever, and no I don't mean Irving and Elflein. It's the strongest point on offense now. Also, despite the apathetic fan base, Carolina's decent at home. Granted, their wins are each division opponent and the Broncos, but you can only play what's on the schedule. I just hope Wackadoo gets canned after this year. We're like the wish version of the Titans

[@quiveringmoist7558]

Funny how these wealth managers can game the financial system for profits but once they get into a business that is regulated and structured they amazingly fail.

[@sway_9803]

We need an update tree! And we got it lol

[@PrimarySweeper13]

Thanks panthers for Run CMC -Duck

[@artisaprimus6306]

A guy like Tepper doesn't listen to anyone. He does what he wants, then looks for someone to blame when it goes to shit.

[@pantherteen1997]

As a panthers fan, been waiting for this for a while now. Bout time I get to hear the full truth of my hometown team.