1970 Watch America's "Silent Majority" Speak Out. How They REALLY Felt.

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David Hoffman

David Hoffman

3 жыл бұрын

In 1970, Americans were split on whether the country should continue the Vietnam War. Both sides had extreme elements speaking on their behalf. In the middle, President Nixon coined the phrase "the silent majority" to represent most Americans who did not protest or speak out but in his view, felt strongly patriotic about America's involvement in the Vietnam War.
Chicago filmmaker Chuck Olin went into his community to see how people felt. He and his team were surprised to find that "ordinary Americans" weren't as one-sided or as silent as the politicians had indicated in the press had assumed.
The filmmaker used 16mm film and a separate audio recorder and just captured real people in real situations talking honestly. Superb documentary filmmaking.
At the time there were several dozen independent 16mm documentary filmmakers making films for an underground audience. Not for television, and there was no other major media outlet available to us. There were film festivals and in major cities, theaters playing 16mm documentaries. It was an exciting time to be a filmmaker and Americans were for the most part, very willing to participate in the films that I, and other filmmakers, were attempting to produce.
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@mattm7378
@mattm7378 3 жыл бұрын
It's been about 50 years since this documentary and nothing has changed
@cdcaleo
@cdcaleo 3 жыл бұрын
That's on purpose. Those at the top of the pyramid benefit from the way our society is structured and how our institutions function. They have no intention of letting the anger and frustration of the "little people" get in the way.
@1846tt
@1846tt 3 жыл бұрын
Quite a bit has changed, it's just what you're seeing here, is the general ignorance and frustration of the average US citizen, which, yes sounds the same today as it did 50 years ago. Oh yeah and the model of the MIC dictating our foreign policy while puppet politicians try to sell some kind of trickle down myth concept, that's pretty intact as well. Meanwhile, most other aspects of our society have have been turned on their head, and that whole model I just described, it was brand new at that time, Eisenhower warned that it was going to happen, and after an extremely turbulent decade, when this film was made it had just locked into place, now it's chugging along. As I always say, if you want to be less like the people in this movie and more like the 1%, save your money and BUY DEFENSE!!!
@bpalpha
@bpalpha 3 жыл бұрын
@@1846tt Since when is stockpiling weaponry a path towards peace?
@mattm7378
@mattm7378 3 жыл бұрын
@@AsWellYouShould I was speaking in terms of government manipulating us into useless wars and lying to us about the reasoning. In other words I was speaking in regard to the exact topic of the video. Look below. I guarantee you you will see very many people making similar comments to mine that nothing has changed. It seems other people understand that when you make a comment you're usually talking about the specific topic of the video. Not sure why you're going off on a tangent about obesity and depression... but hey whatever floats your boat
@eldidosti6202
@eldidosti6202 3 жыл бұрын
We are so powerless, what can we do??? Well STOP CONSUMING SHIT YOU DON'T NEED . This is how bureaucracy is feed
@bizzlecrafts
@bizzlecrafts 3 жыл бұрын
"I thought it was the government for the people?" "Yeah, it's for the people alright, it's for the rich people."
@americo9999
@americo9999 3 жыл бұрын
Looks like we never got out of feudalism, 😬😅
@chrisbrown8640
@chrisbrown8640 3 жыл бұрын
They bowed to the will of the people ....the steel people...the oil people the mining people...the farm people....the factory people....
@edwardmiessner6502
@edwardmiessner6502 3 жыл бұрын
Facts. It's the same way in the Communist countries
@victorc824
@victorc824 3 жыл бұрын
@@americo9999 it’s the same game, with a different name. It’s not the “Republicans vs Democrats”. It’s the “Rich vs The Poor”, “The Have’s vs the have-nots.” Republicans have their base convinced they’re part of “The Have’s” and that they have to defend their country against the “have-nots” who are taking all their jobs away! Democracy literally means ruled by the masses. When the masses are poor, you have “Ruled by the Poor” Im not anti-Democrat and I’m not anti-rich but I think we need a balance. The United States cannot be solely for the rich people. We’ve tried it their way with “trickle down economics” It’s time to grow this country from the bottom up.
@paulpaul1815
@paulpaul1815 3 жыл бұрын
According to a quote from the leader of the free world We are the people, the government, we are the people.
@elisianez1291
@elisianez1291 3 жыл бұрын
"Government has no power when everyone comes together for one cause, that's why it's important for those in government to keep us divided"
@ltgood
@ltgood 2 жыл бұрын
Yes at least 6 feet apart.
@yesimemoin0935
@yesimemoin0935 2 жыл бұрын
If he really felt that way, he and the rest of the Silent Majority have sided with the civil rights and anti-war demonstrators. They valued "tradition" and "decorum" more than reform in the US.
@anandiyer31
@anandiyer31 2 жыл бұрын
Rightly said....100% true
@CrimsonBlot
@CrimsonBlot 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah well we tried that on J6 and nothing changed. Sure did freak them out at the very least. But it's going to take WAY more than that.
@jaystinger3970
@jaystinger3970 2 жыл бұрын
PREACH!
@Kirkwoodclay
@Kirkwoodclay 2 жыл бұрын
That guy talking about getting hit with a piece of metal that said “GM”, that really got me. I imagine the feeling of betrayal. Supposedly fighting for your country while your own country is fighting you.
@alterI4
@alterI4 Жыл бұрын
yeah, it reminded me of the opening sequence of Ironman 1 where tony gets the shrapnel in his chest from his own bomb. But its more interesting hearing about that scenario from someone who actually lived it way back then. Really highlights how art imitates life.
@lighterpath5998
@lighterpath5998 3 жыл бұрын
What did a soldier get for giving their life in Vietnam? A flag-draped coffin. How much does a flag cost? Back then you could probably buy 8 flags for .99 cents (the small kind) That's the value our government put on our soldier's life.
@LilyS1031
@LilyS1031 3 жыл бұрын
It does seem that way very often my parents are both veterans and I was raised a certain way. When my son wanted to join the Army it threw me hard. I see what war does to people who come home. And what the government doesn't do. Very confused about it all. Edit: I am not commenting on consumerism, I will support my son who is a man and can make his own decision, and I can see both sides of this issue clearly. Also I'm American and I can say anything I want.
@trentdawg2832
@trentdawg2832 3 жыл бұрын
The flags were made in china
@annarodriguez9868
@annarodriguez9868 3 жыл бұрын
@@trentdawg2832 Not back then. They were made in the USA in US factories. Back then we got lots of inexpensive things from Japan mostly household items and pocket size transistor radios about the size of a pack of cigarettes. They were good products not cheap junk like we get from China.
@trentdawg2832
@trentdawg2832 3 жыл бұрын
@@annarodriguez9868 I was joking. ....I don't think our government would really ashame your boys like that. ...ffwd to today, I'm not so sure!!
@cman101892
@cman101892 3 жыл бұрын
And it all funds the manufacturing industry they were probably making the flags in southeast Asia for all we know
@lordslimjimm11
@lordslimjimm11 3 жыл бұрын
50 years later and it's the same scenario.. Mind boggling.
@paulstacey7814
@paulstacey7814 3 жыл бұрын
These people seem so much more thoughtful than their contemporary counterparts, though.
@Classic_Rock_Chick
@Classic_Rock_Chick 3 жыл бұрын
@@paulstacey7814 Exactly. People can have a conversation and disagree respectfully and not resort to name calling or shouting each other down.
@bsdacameras
@bsdacameras 3 жыл бұрын
unfortunately there will always be ignorant people who haven’t learned from history or the past. we just have to always remember to be kind to people we disagree with and challenge their way of thinking in a friendly way
@DocOrtmeyer
@DocOrtmeyer 3 жыл бұрын
@@paulstacey7814 the nuclear family used to be better.
@kalebmaxwell5725
@kalebmaxwell5725 3 жыл бұрын
Politics today are just rehashings of debates had in the 80’s about issues of the 70’s
@DARTHSKATER7
@DARTHSKATER7 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a Marine corps Iraqi war combat veteran and watching this shows me exactly how much hasn't changed. These people are telling us exactly what we would also discover going to war in the 2000s. It's amazing
@smcv8365
@smcv8365 2 жыл бұрын
America has dumbed down phenomenally over the years. All these people make so much sense. They sound so well-informed and level-headed, with their thinking faculty intact. It's a treat to hear them talk.
@SHOT_GUNNER
@SHOT_GUNNER 3 жыл бұрын
My father served in Nam. He always told me when he got back, the bloodshed and destruction made him question which way is up. Well I joined the Marine Corps in 2003 because I was a kid just trying to get some structure in life. When I returned from the conflict overseas I too was questioning “which way is up”. Now I fully understand my late father and it is truly remarkable to say the least. Great video! Thanks for sharing as always. 🤠
@baizhanghuaihai2298
@baizhanghuaihai2298 3 жыл бұрын
It’s sad that it takes that much violence, trauma and bloodshed to make one question which way up is. I never went to war, I could see from a young age it was a stupid endeavor waged by the rich, fought and paid for by the poor. Why is that soooo hard for people to see? The propaganda is so obvious! Doesn’t take a genius to see a con.
@Lachausis
@Lachausis 3 жыл бұрын
@@baizhanghuaihai2298 shut up
@baizhanghuaihai2298
@baizhanghuaihai2298 3 жыл бұрын
@@Lachausis make me
@musicaleuphoria8699
@musicaleuphoria8699 3 жыл бұрын
It's definitely a rude awakening joining the military and getting out, realizing military time served was just part in contributing to the war machine that controls the world entire for those in power to benefit. Sure, there is benefits for those that served, but not to much especially when those that are homeless. Sometimes those that benefited more try to justify that veterans that didn't aren't smart enough to take advantage of their benefits. That culture of "winners and losers", compared to those with or without power, also plagues our military service community unfortunately. Too many times I've seen veterans being nice only those who are well off, but not those sitting in the streets struggling. Anyways, I'm rambling a bit here.
@shawnrusselld
@shawnrusselld 3 жыл бұрын
I joined the Army the same year. Ever since coming home from 2 deployments I feel the same you do. Unforturnalty it's impossible to go back to sleep. Sometimes I wish I could.
@chris-mg5ui
@chris-mg5ui 3 жыл бұрын
Depressing how things just never seem to change
@divergentsenior
@divergentsenior 3 жыл бұрын
The question is WHO benefits from things staying the same?
@Timothythebrewer
@Timothythebrewer 3 жыл бұрын
Same thoughts. Follow the money.
@hippychikforever
@hippychikforever 3 жыл бұрын
@@divergentsenior The Billionaire Class.
@jamesmack3314
@jamesmack3314 3 жыл бұрын
The more things change....
@ericjones9725
@ericjones9725 3 жыл бұрын
Stuff has changed, but for the worse.
@Shorkshire
@Shorkshire 2 жыл бұрын
"When people are divided, they fight with eachother and forget about the major issues..." 13:00. Fucking nailed it...
@Plainsburner
@Plainsburner 2 жыл бұрын
The problem is that both sides are fed radically different ways to fix the major issues, maybe that is done on purpose as well.
@j.c.2514
@j.c.2514 6 ай бұрын
🎯
@hidinginyourcloset
@hidinginyourcloset 4 ай бұрын
If people talked to each other about these issues, many of us would realize we're not that different after all. This polarization has made us hate each other. This is what dooms us.
@pranteranaud3617
@pranteranaud3617 3 жыл бұрын
Born in the late 70's and raised in the 80's I can honestly say I miss these type of people in my life. It was such an easy and more realistic view on life back then. People seemed to honestly care more about their fellow men and woman.
@100percentgradeA
@100percentgradeA 2 жыл бұрын
I feel ya. Same here! Born and raised the same years as well.
@rainmancw9022
@rainmancw9022 2 жыл бұрын
I'm with you being born in 73. Where did people and value go
@realmichaud
@realmichaud 2 жыл бұрын
I totally agree. People back then, that generation of mostly middle-aged, middle-class folks did not have the Aire of self-importance and aggrandizement. They were not presumptuous but quite fair and reasonable in their approach to people around them and concerning issues in the World at large. They had more intelligence then than average middle-aged middle class schmoe today.
@realmichaud
@realmichaud 2 жыл бұрын
@@rainmancw9022 born in 73 also, and people, especially those who claimed they earned every penny in life are the most immoral lot. I remember when as a child the elderly were much more nice and caring and genuine. I feel sorry for todays young kids.
@seanvales391
@seanvales391 2 жыл бұрын
True words👍. 1971 Southside Chicago Auburn Gresham raised. The entire neighborhood was connected in some way. My entire block was independent small business people. Independent t.v. repairman,locksmith,tailors,mechanics,mostly all service men. Segregated Chicago was very organized believe it or not. We fought in the streets but they are reasonable in this video. Shout out to the G.A.Y. oh Chicago 🙏✌
@LindaCasey
@LindaCasey 3 жыл бұрын
Good grief .. talk about flashbacks! I feel like I was back at my parent's house discussing this around the dinner table. Not one thing has changed in all my 73 years here on this planet. While we're all here still jawin' about it, thems whuts behind the curtains are also still pulling all the strings for us.
@EpicKate
@EpicKate 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, that must have been bizarre to step into this time capsule.
@KaoticReach1999
@KaoticReach1999 3 жыл бұрын
There's a reason your Generation is known as the *Great* one
@michaelshelbyedwards
@michaelshelbyedwards 3 жыл бұрын
@@KaoticReach1999 She would actually be a Baby Boomer if she's 73. The 'Greatest' generation fought in WWII. They're in their 90s and up.
@bonniegreatorex72
@bonniegreatorex72 3 жыл бұрын
Yep
@annchannin14
@annchannin14 3 жыл бұрын
Your truth is a huge breath of FRESH AIR
@BishopLake
@BishopLake 3 жыл бұрын
I had a friend who's father was a Vietnam vet. He was a Ranger, and he suffered a variety of health problems due to his exposure to chemical elements during his tours. He was very kind to me, but (this is in 1992) you could tell there was a general unease to his overall mental health. I got on with him pretty well, but he told me stories that were so gruesome they untied my shoes. I would sit and listen to him because I thought it was helping him to have someone to listen to him. I never judged him for it, as far as I could tell he was still a believer of the effort, and I never argued with him (mainly out of respect for him, I never felt threatened by him). I lost contact with him years ago, but I think of him often and how that war stole his mental health (he had repeated breakdowns I was not present for, but his daughter told me some horror stories).
@newlife8318
@newlife8318 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe he couldn't find people to have conversation and eye contact with
@oppressednolonger1497
@oppressednolonger1497 2 жыл бұрын
Hello BishopLake, Id like to ask you about some details about how Nam affected your friends father, physical and mental long term effects for a book Im writing, would you drop me a line? If I hear back I will give you my contact info- thank you in advance
@AB-yc1np
@AB-yc1np 2 жыл бұрын
A lot of Liz Chaney's who want other people's sons to go a fight some dumb ideology
@TiptonMama
@TiptonMama Жыл бұрын
I have no doubt that you made a world of difference for the man. He likely shared things with you that he felt he couldn't share with anyone else. My husband's uncle was a Vietnam vet, and it haunted him, too. He passed away some time ago, now, so hopefully he's finally at peace. I know it would have helped him to have someone to confide in, too. You did a good thing for your friend's father.
@ifinallyfoundthebeef
@ifinallyfoundthebeef Жыл бұрын
Nothing has really changed. USA creating a situation for a war. Who profits big business. Not the common people.
@terreniskelley7191
@terreniskelley7191 3 жыл бұрын
LOVE this video, I love how none of them didn't mention which newscaster or network said something. This was life before Cable Corp. News. They all had the own solid common sense opinions.
@jamesb.9155
@jamesb.9155 2 жыл бұрын
David Hoffman, you have continuously lived out an amazing life of learning while practicing your vocation of documenting so many social events and meeting so many interesting people from every walk of Life! Thanks for (your) continued passionate diligence to documenting Life as it is sir!
@DavidHoffmanFilmmaker
@DavidHoffmanFilmmaker 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for what you have said, James
@andylindsey
@andylindsey 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, seeing adults and communities having lengthy, civilized conversations about things that matter! I miss that.
@logic7374
@logic7374 3 жыл бұрын
Just a bunch of hippies blaming corporations for everything, while they benefit from the corporations paying the majority of all the taxes.
@MrJim5280
@MrJim5280 3 жыл бұрын
@@logic7374 It wasn’t the corporations going to fight the war and dying in a jungle.
@logic7374
@logic7374 3 жыл бұрын
and what does thathave to do with anything.
@waynerenolds3955
@waynerenolds3955 3 жыл бұрын
people still do this in person you just think reality is social media apparently
@logic7374
@logic7374 3 жыл бұрын
@@waynerenolds3955 you're right
@motley100
@motley100 3 жыл бұрын
"Why do we have to be the policemen of the world? " That same statement could be said today with the same meaning. This whole document is relevant today.
@SandfordSmythe
@SandfordSmythe 3 жыл бұрын
Because we were the only one capable of protecting the weak. You can take that on a geo-political level or a moral level. Think about it some. I don't use that cliché' any more.
@678ktm
@678ktm 3 жыл бұрын
It's why your country was and is so worthy. You are the pimp, pushing your printed greenbacks on to the world. Looking like things are changing, which is scary 😨
@cultfilmvideo6936
@cultfilmvideo6936 3 жыл бұрын
@@678ktm Federal Reserve, fam.
@willtopowerpodcast2689
@willtopowerpodcast2689 3 жыл бұрын
Except today, no one around the world cares what America thinks if its not tied to a grant or paycheck.
@crookedpaths6612
@crookedpaths6612 2 жыл бұрын
Well if Americans don’t trust the motives of their own government, then how on earth do you expect the voting public of allied nation to do the same thing without any consultation? Nonetheless the USA has always had some form of allied support.
@iancatt5915
@iancatt5915 2 жыл бұрын
I'm 24 years old and people don't have conversations like this anymore. 24 years of life and never had a conversation with any integrity.
@Caritasaveritas
@Caritasaveritas 2 жыл бұрын
These videos remind me of the tone and attention we had with one another. It’s a warm and friendly feeling. Thank you for posting these. 😊🍃
@EyeLean5280
@EyeLean5280 3 жыл бұрын
Perfect timing! We're talking about the "silent majority" in our American History class this week. I'll recommend this video to our students. Thanks!
@JohnTaylor-fh4et
@JohnTaylor-fh4et 3 жыл бұрын
It's the Oppressed & the Oppressors, Welcome to the Society of the Spectacle. We the People must unite if we want to free ourselves.
@jc.1191
@jc.1191 3 жыл бұрын
Good job teach👍
@Jiidwag
@Jiidwag 3 жыл бұрын
You idiots keep voting for the same idiots every generation, so nothing has change. I watch the “majority” vote 3x for Bush War policy politicians, finally Obama got elected and the “majority” attacked and mocked him
@entropybentwhistle
@entropybentwhistle 3 жыл бұрын
The magic of the “Silent Majority” in current vernacular is that they are neither of those things. It’s now a cliché appended to arguments by people with crap positions.
@rodneystanger1651
@rodneystanger1651 3 жыл бұрын
@@Jiidwag You saw the last "election", and you still think voting is gonna change anything. We aren't voting our way out of this bullshit, that should be obvious.
@BrittanyLaurenWhalen
@BrittanyLaurenWhalen 3 жыл бұрын
I very much enjoyed watching these people being interviewed expressed their compassion for the other side and not just for Americans. They cared about peace and thought of others that don't look exactly like them as humans.
@eemoogee160
@eemoogee160 3 жыл бұрын
@@Surfwtw There are some people in this video that come off as probably racist and supremacist. The silent majority who Nixon spoke of were pro-war and against the counter culture.
@jc.1191
@jc.1191 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, it was nice to hear.
@grimly105
@grimly105 3 жыл бұрын
@Theodoric Vand I agree. White people of the past did what litterally every other people of the past did. Technology just allowed them to do it a little easier I think. But prejudice and ignorance is a human trait. Or maybe I should say it is a trait that comes from tribalism.
@awefulchan5142
@awefulchan5142 2 жыл бұрын
@Stephanie Windler No it absolutely is the medias fault. It's called sensationalism and they are legally aloud to portray events in whatever version they want to. Basically, If the event did happen, they can use the material to project the news, but it comes from their own perception of the events, not what actually happened, constantly breaching impartiality rules. Think about it this way, if the news REALLY wanted to report events, why do they have to commentary it and explain it to you, are you not a thinking creature and are you unable to formulate your own opinions on the matter? Why do they feel the need to explain events ,AS THEY SEE IT, and shove it in your face as "fact" when, it's literally an opinion. Stop thinking of the News medias as your friends, they want your viewership in anyway possible and the fact of the matter is, in current society with many many independent journalism on the internet, people are starting to look away from traditional news. But also, make no mistake, they are a part of the government entity, because the government also relies on them to convey their own messages as well as to "prove" what they are doing to handle the situations. There is no transparency, most of our heaviest news outlets arnt even subjected to the law set by FCC for distribution of false regulations, because they broadcast on free and public platforms and it would infringe on the 1st amendment right. "Fox News (as well as CNN and MSNBC) is not an accredited news station because no regulatory body exists in the United States that has the authority to make such a classification." Man....just fucking watch "Sugar" by SOAD, pretty much sums it up in a pretty simple way. The absolute one thing I truly admire about Trump was, hate him or love him, he was the first president to actively engage with the people on a whole new platform, that has never been done before. Instead of a speech made for him to say Infront of the press, he said it himself on social networks. That takes balls to speak your mind, especially being in a leader position to a country, and saying it to your face. Whether you like what he had to say is a different matter.
@MissEddieBlueKawaiiKrafts
@MissEddieBlueKawaiiKrafts 2 жыл бұрын
@Stephanie Windler idk what country you live in but I can tell you as a non American 🇺🇸 citizen the whole world does pretty much think the US is a bunch of racist selfish jerks… HOWEVER.. I think most blame & believe that about the US government, not the people It can be ok to play the victim, when you actually are a victim A VICTIM OF THE U.S SATANICAL GOVERNMENT AAAAAAAHHHHHH 🤪😵‍💫 😹 jk sorry guys my husband listens to way too much crazy right wing propaganda 👀😅 (& we don’t even live in the U.S 😐🤦🏼‍♀️😶🤦🏼‍♀️) if I don’t joke about it I might go insane 😳🔫🙈🙈🙈
@THETHRILLOFIT
@THETHRILLOFIT 2 жыл бұрын
the parallels between this video and today are stunning. thanks for sharing!
@maggiesmith979
@maggiesmith979 2 жыл бұрын
Love you David. Your curation and release of your and others' films is so timely and speaks volumes.
@petern.9392
@petern.9392 3 жыл бұрын
I’d forgotten how much empathy we had for the Vietnamese people caught in that mess.
@jc.1191
@jc.1191 3 жыл бұрын
It's nice to see. We're all just people. Cold war was a damn hard war to win.
@alec1430
@alec1430 3 жыл бұрын
J.C. pointless too
@alldud13
@alldud13 3 жыл бұрын
Ironically no empathy for black people in America even to this day
@MrMarkRoads
@MrMarkRoads 3 жыл бұрын
At the end of WW2 we supported the Vietnamese. We helped them start their government. France wanted it back and told us if we got in the way they would join Russia at the start of the cold war. We went from saving Ho Chi Minh's life to bombing him.
@petern.9392
@petern.9392 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrMarkRoads Didn’t Ho send a letter to Truman(?) requesting help in return for support of US and it never reached his desk? A missed opportunity….
@stvbrsn
@stvbrsn 3 жыл бұрын
“General Mortars” is what I’m going to call them from now on.
@sicsemperevellomortemtyran309
@sicsemperevellomortemtyran309 3 жыл бұрын
Solidddddddd. 😎
@dan88rx7turbo22
@dan88rx7turbo22 3 жыл бұрын
Fuck yeah !!!
@danielbtwd
@danielbtwd 3 жыл бұрын
My 30 and 50 browning were made by GM.
@stvbrsn
@stvbrsn 3 жыл бұрын
@@checkyourhead6467 oh sure. I also know how much money Prescott Bush gave to the cause as well. And what else? I know that while the Reich did not “win the war,” the interests that were backing them all along most certainly took their ideology underground and managed to propagate it right up to the present day. Top-down technocratic panoptikon control grid is well in place as of 2021. Only a matter of time now before comments like this will be expunged. Followed shortly thereafter by those who utter them. I just hope there’s enough time for me to put the finishing touches on my ark.
@danielbtwd
@danielbtwd 3 жыл бұрын
@@checkyourhead6467 yes, and they successfully sued the American taxpayer for compensation for bombing their German factories.
@usmale4915
@usmale4915 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. I really enjoyed it very much! Thank you for sharing!
@darcycookson8210
@darcycookson8210 3 жыл бұрын
Your videos are invaluable. Thank you for sharing them with us.
@everetthamby5005
@everetthamby5005 3 жыл бұрын
Back when Americans thought critically about things and weren’t propagandized by corporate garbage from Fox News and CNN. Really sad to see the disintegration of intellectualism from that time until now.
@randoss6213
@randoss6213 3 жыл бұрын
So true
@bigyodatheman
@bigyodatheman 3 жыл бұрын
Instead of cable channels it was newspapers and magazines.
@CatholicTraditional
@CatholicTraditional 3 жыл бұрын
These people were educated properly.
@thegardenoffragileegos1845
@thegardenoffragileegos1845 3 жыл бұрын
Even the most staunch conservatives back then would NEVER have embraced Qanon. Alex Jones would have been a doorknob salesman in this world.
@vawest2052
@vawest2052 3 жыл бұрын
@@mikuspalmis The draft was implemented during the Vietnam War, men had no choice , it's why draft dodging became a thing. People did all kinds of things to get out of being sent to war, some ran to Canada others faked mental illness, my uncle knew a guy that got drunk and threw himself into traffic to break as many bones as possible so he couldn't go. Luckily, my family has a hereditary blood disease and my dad couldn't be sent, I may have never been born.
@EpicKate
@EpicKate 3 жыл бұрын
David, this is and absolute treasure. These voices have cried out for so long, now they are heard again. Three silent majority is able to think. To be compassionate and to dare to question. My heart feels so full when I hear people express doubts. To never question authority is to give too much power away. It allows absolute power to exist and to corrupt. Thank you for making it possible for me to experiance history like this.
@dave2158
@dave2158 3 жыл бұрын
Bush: lots of MSM and public war criticism Obama: no MSM and public war criticism Trump: no MSM and public war criticism Biden: no MSM or public war criticism
@jc.1191
@jc.1191 3 жыл бұрын
Kinda a big issue at the moment it seems.
@jmiogo
@jmiogo 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing video. Thank you.
@moonlightfitz
@moonlightfitz 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for uploading!
@vertigo0331
@vertigo0331 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a veteran of the fighting in Ramadi back in '05-'06, then back again in '07 and this is so frustrating. We had learned nothing in the 35 years since this was filmed. Of course I learned about political unrest around Vietnam, but that older lady who had lived through the big wars and probably saw the men in her life go off and come back in various pieces, if at all, really reached through time. I saw all the mothers of my friends who were killed and wounded in her. When are we ever going to learn
@mikec6617
@mikec6617 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your service and thoughtful comment.
@MrSpankyxiv
@MrSpankyxiv 3 жыл бұрын
The face value metric of war is always the intended result of war regardless of what the narrative of the day is. But fear not, Increasingly as a method to reduce the male population as well as to ensure the consumption, rather then the accumulation of wealth war cannot be directly used towards this end. I has become dangerouseven to those who wage it... It was a comfortable, large group of free men That created the western world and America. Controlling the pitch, pace and temperament of generations? For over 10 thousand years (yes even in prehistory) the fate of the world was in the hands of a tiny crust of dominant families. Now for the past 500 years the projection of force gave rise to "live and let live." This is what is not allowed to persist.
@karaa7595
@karaa7595 3 жыл бұрын
The gov't is into population control. But they are learning war is expensive and messy. So now they are killing people with lock downs and shots. Using Big Pharma to pull off mass genocide via bioweapons. They also poison our air, food and water. They are nice enough to give most Hospice Care a few months before death.
@jc.1191
@jc.1191 3 жыл бұрын
Sometimes we make mistakes on going to war. Best to just avoid it as much as possible.
@elmtree33
@elmtree33 3 жыл бұрын
We are never going to learn so long as people in power see those not in power as dispensable. We live in a corrupt world...corrupted by human wickedness.
@VandalSauvage
@VandalSauvage 3 жыл бұрын
This is amazing footage. And wow, our collective communication skills, our ability to have rational dialogue, has really taken a steep nosedive over the past 50 years. American society has been dumbed down because, as evidenced here in this video, people are having logically sound arguments; you understand where each person is coming from. We don’t make the time to really think and have conversations anymore like this, and it’s sad.
@coxson
@coxson 3 жыл бұрын
We can't dialogue like that anymore because we know too much.
@realcryptc
@realcryptc 3 жыл бұрын
“We have to respect each other opinion” This quote really said a lot to me personally because the mindset was let’s come to an agreement and be able to work together. I don’t mean to sound dramatic, but the average fellow college student I meet is not interested in finding an agreement or working together. Ideas are being viewed more as morally correct or morally wrong. The goal is often to dominate a space and show how “correct” an idea is
@Catlily5
@Catlily5 3 жыл бұрын
I can have conversations like this. There are still some civil, politically interested people in the USA.
@realcryptc
@realcryptc 3 жыл бұрын
@@Catlily5 definitely agree! Just widespread polarization makes it harder to start the conversation Glad to hear others are interested in dialogue 🙏🏼
@stephanipeloquin4631
@stephanipeloquin4631 3 жыл бұрын
@@Catlily5 I've been a part of lots of conversations like these, with young people.
@outlawgaming2439
@outlawgaming2439 2 жыл бұрын
Always excited to see your videos. Every single one I've viewed has been an eye-opening experience. Thank you for nurturing your passion so that we can enjoy the fruits of your labor. You are an artist.
@campetrie6562
@campetrie6562 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this!
@MeekelDubya
@MeekelDubya 3 жыл бұрын
I love these old interviews! People actually talked face to face and listened to each other and were respectful even if they didn't agree. Now people hide behind their screens and call each other Nazi's or Commies.
@rellman85
@rellman85 3 жыл бұрын
You can still have some good conversation at bars, coffee shops, bookstores, etc. As the pandemic winds down we’ll have even more of this… folks are hungry for it.
@dilberta6046
@dilberta6046 3 жыл бұрын
Enabled by Fascistbook.
@dionysusnow
@dionysusnow 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah but that guy said not having enough food turned you into a communist
@750count
@750count 3 жыл бұрын
@@rellman85 Good point It's just that we're on a hairpin trigger these days
@conradsurak6060
@conradsurak6060 3 жыл бұрын
And most of them have absolutely no idea what either word means
@cidmatrix9643
@cidmatrix9643 3 жыл бұрын
"So many people have to die and it's a dirty shame!"
@carter_1
@carter_1 3 жыл бұрын
My father was in Vietnam, took him 30 YEARS before sharing stories. War changes you, & it affects your kids. Only when neccessary should war be an option. Dad is still alive today & now his grandson (my son) is an "Electric Strawberry" 21st Infantry EXACTLY like my dad was (& that wasn't my son's Choice) but I fear he'll be led down a similar path... you can only hope and pray it's for the right reasons.
@TScott-ik3zs
@TScott-ik3zs 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks yet again!
@LivEandInspirE4EveR
@LivEandInspirE4EveR 3 жыл бұрын
“After this you’re gonna have the East.” A haunting statement that remains true.
@grayson0916
@grayson0916 3 жыл бұрын
A frighteningly deep insight.
@brazenlancer9484
@brazenlancer9484 3 жыл бұрын
To be fair, all Middle East wars combined didn’t compare to the horrors of Vietnam and Korea. Those wars left our service members broken forever.
@SamTahbou
@SamTahbou 3 жыл бұрын
@@brazenlancer9484 the middle east wars left it broken instead. Iraq, Syria, Libya are all still a mess today. But I do agree that the guy said "east" not middle east. I don't think he was talking about the middle east back there.
@grayson0916
@grayson0916 3 жыл бұрын
@@brazenlancer9484 they don’t compare when you consider the only victims to be our soldiers. Go ask the people in the Middle East if they got it easy.
@chadyenko
@chadyenko 3 жыл бұрын
This guy predicted it! On good ol' Technicolor on 16mm in a barber shop. I'd let the barber shops run the country sooner then some dang cronies.
@VNExperience
@VNExperience 3 жыл бұрын
50 years later and I'm living in Saigon, in the middle of the former Tan Son Nhut U.S. Air Base. The famous photo of people climbing a ladder on a rooftop to board a Huey helicopter was taken just 4 miles from here and the building is still there. It's now shadowed by Vincom Center, a modern shopping mall. You can see and feel the history everywhere in the city but time marches on. Thanks for the upload, David. I love all your videos, especially the ones about Vietnam and the 60s and the 70s.
@DavidHoffmanFilmmaker
@DavidHoffmanFilmmaker 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Pasi. David Hoffman
@jamesmack3314
@jamesmack3314 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve been to Saigon 4 times,it’s like NY on steroids! But I love it..need to get back if they ever start issuing Visas again!Im sure the local businesses are suffering without tourists..at least some are
@jc.1191
@jc.1191 3 жыл бұрын
By the looks of that lady of yours, I see why you're there. 😉
@VNExperience
@VNExperience 3 жыл бұрын
@@jc.1191 haha, exactly. You're right on the money! Coming up on a decade soon. Funny how life takes you places. Take care! :)
@lemiphil2388
@lemiphil2388 3 жыл бұрын
@@VNExperience congrats man ❤️.
@rachel_Cochran
@rachel_Cochran 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing this
@cerveza2297
@cerveza2297 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this. Noone remembers anything anymore. Let's all remind each other 💛
@vibemann6490
@vibemann6490 3 жыл бұрын
I know this will sound weird or rude, but I couldn't stop smiling throughout the vide. It's amazing how these people talked and had different viewpoints. Thank you Mr. Hoffman
@robertl.fallin7062
@robertl.fallin7062 3 жыл бұрын
I agree somthing changed. I beleive a cancer called fox has removed brain cells!
@vibemann6490
@vibemann6490 3 жыл бұрын
Robert i think it's really both sides of the media at fault. Both of them try to divide us all and hate each other rather than being respectful and open mineded
@Dakotako
@Dakotako 3 жыл бұрын
@@robertl.fallin7062 Lol, fox may be terrible, but it's way better than CNN and MSNBC.
@crankyoldperson6871
@crankyoldperson6871 3 жыл бұрын
@@Dakotako the people being interviewed are aware of being divided in an effort to prevent an overwhelming majority consensus. As so many before have said “the more things change, the more they stay the same.” 😞
@sixpinkoneblue
@sixpinkoneblue 3 жыл бұрын
@@Dakotako Fox is terrible and no they aren't better. They actively let their anchors lie about what's going on so they can keep us scared and fighting between ourselves. They take orders from Trump and he and the GQP are dangerous to America.
@angelaf4831
@angelaf4831 3 жыл бұрын
"I ain't no senator's son, naw". They send OUR sons to fight wars.
@truck_yeah_440
@truck_yeah_440 2 жыл бұрын
The song "Fortunate Son" by Creedence Clearwater Revival was used as a term to describe the draft-dodging kids of politicians.
@Don-mu2qh
@Don-mu2qh 2 жыл бұрын
@@truck_yeah_440 And then we lived it with George W. Bush.
@tonyrandall3146
@tonyrandall3146 2 жыл бұрын
@@Don-mu2qh And Trump..
@jimmydean314
@jimmydean314 2 жыл бұрын
Why did France want dominion over Vnam?
@Don-mu2qh
@Don-mu2qh 2 жыл бұрын
@@jimmydean314 It was part of French Indochina, part of the French colonial empire.
@MrEerwin
@MrEerwin 3 жыл бұрын
This is amazing footage, invaluable in understanding our Zeitgeist. Thank you for making this available.
@jnwilliams1986
@jnwilliams1986 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing this and preserving history
@lolawalsh9187
@lolawalsh9187 3 жыл бұрын
Nothing has changed much. We need to reopen old theaters and show these documentaries.....
@davidellis5141
@davidellis5141 3 жыл бұрын
9:25 She was 20 & so eloquent. Now she is 70 ! Be fascinating to see what she thinks 50 years later. 🤔
@LindaCasey
@LindaCasey 3 жыл бұрын
The same
@EpicKate
@EpicKate 3 жыл бұрын
The fear you heard in her voice. I wonder how many she lost after it was all said and done.
@annarodriguez9868
@annarodriguez9868 3 жыл бұрын
@J Breeze How can you say she did LSD? Not everybody did drugs like people like to think. I was about her age then and several of my high school friends were in Vietnam including my husband. One of them died over there and his name is on the wall of the Vietnam memorial. My husband came home safe, but he never talked about it and had nightmares for a long time. The only thing he said about Vietnam was that it was a beautiful place and it was ashame it was being destroyed. When the soldiers came home they would travel alone on commercial flights. They would be in uniform and they would be cursed and spit at as they were walking through the airport. They were soldiers that had served where they had been sent. They were not the enemy. They were not baby killers. They were not flag burners. They didn't burn their draft cards. They were called and they went. Some were seriously injured, but all of them survived a nightmare which followed them in their dreams. Over 50,000 never came home.
@teacat55
@teacat55 3 жыл бұрын
@@jimicmore1895 “I’ve already buried one friend.....”. Not son.
@annarodriguez9868
@annarodriguez9868 3 жыл бұрын
@Yasta Yildirim It is the voice of sadness and fear for others, not an afterglow. She's a young woman growing older and wiser sooner than expected. That was part of my generation not counting the ones who dropped out of society and tried to build their own world. Most of us weren't protesting in the streets or colleges. We had jobs and families and tried to make sense of the senseless.
@SergiuM42
@SergiuM42 2 жыл бұрын
Great video with great insight.
@jasonmendelli6023
@jasonmendelli6023 2 жыл бұрын
great doc, thanks.
@awsheit
@awsheit 3 жыл бұрын
Also it's amazing the level of community they have, their ability to express themselves, and everyone else's ability to listen patiently. Those are three things I've ever experienced.
@davidreyes1336
@davidreyes1336 3 жыл бұрын
Community? I didn't see any minorities opinions, just white people. Who are the real silent majority?
@awsheit
@awsheit 3 жыл бұрын
@@davidreyes1336 people tend to have communities in places where everyone's more or less the same. How's diversity been working out for the world? Also the other cultural minorities were prob in their own communities, being happy and similar. It's what we tend to do.
@davidreyes1336
@davidreyes1336 3 жыл бұрын
@@awsheit stupid me what was I thinking?
@foxopossum
@foxopossum 3 жыл бұрын
It’s amazing! We’re all so isolated now, right beside each other, but isolated. It is weird nowadays.
@awsheit
@awsheit 3 жыл бұрын
@Stephanie Windler I'm just talking about humans nature to self segregate, no need to get political
@lech525
@lech525 3 жыл бұрын
The guy ar 3:55 talking about his platoon getting wiped was heartbreaking. You can see the trauma in his eyes.
@lech525
@lech525 3 жыл бұрын
if you dont see it pause at exactly 4:00
@MrZarono
@MrZarono 3 жыл бұрын
Looks like a scammer to me. Judging his face and mannerisms he never saw any combat.
@gunhedd5375
@gunhedd5375 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrZarono You know nothing. Shame on you.
@tacoheadmakenzie9311
@tacoheadmakenzie9311 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrZarono Hey, I remember you....you're the guy who won the war!
@jc.1191
@jc.1191 3 жыл бұрын
He's trying not to show it. Just shoving it down. Must be tough.
@Barbarossa19
@Barbarossa19 3 жыл бұрын
David, Thank you. You have brought back my memories of this time. Memories of watching my parents reading draft numbers in the local newspaper every Friday, hoping my older brother's number did not show up. Memories of my father, a lifelong Republican, speaking in scathing terms about his own party's election of Nixon. My father worrying about the money we sent overseas to buy approval for the US actions. Thank you.
@j.masonbrown6216
@j.masonbrown6216 2 жыл бұрын
“A nation that continues year after year to spend more money on military defense than on programs of social uplift is approaching spiritual doom.” - MLK jr.
@syppy7416
@syppy7416 Жыл бұрын
and doom in general, it's a bad idea to focus solely on the military in a society
@activelow9297
@activelow9297 11 ай бұрын
Kind of an arrogant statement from a man who was a known communist and was conspiring with communist leaders around the globe to foment a color revolution in the United States. That's exactly the kind of thing our military is supposed to protected us from.
@adem2709
@adem2709 3 жыл бұрын
Wild to realize these conversations took place in 1970 and were still being had in 2021
@Loki.Lyesmyth
@Loki.Lyesmyth 2 жыл бұрын
Because the same interests are running the show. Its a shame.
@fifthbusiness1678
@fifthbusiness1678 2 жыл бұрын
I beg to differ. The discourse back then, compared to now, was radically different. Positions were argued, yes, but with respect (for the most part). And the wisdom on display in this film - with a few exceptions - is seldom found today. The divide between right and left in the US, to these eyes (I’m not American), has never been greater. The Trumpists have destroyed all rational discourse.
@juliahess14
@juliahess14 3 жыл бұрын
This channel just ignited my interest in learning history for the first time and I just wanted to say thank you!
@mariemiller8740
@mariemiller8740 3 жыл бұрын
Julia Hesselbrock watch Europa the last battle on bitchute eyeopening watch Barbara lector Spectra talk on the immigration of Europe and the Kalergi plan include that in your research
@subs4794
@subs4794 2 жыл бұрын
Careful not to fall down conspiratorial historical rabbit holes.
@rishpanjeet7479
@rishpanjeet7479 2 жыл бұрын
@@subs4794 aaaaand you just discredited yourself.
@kristiskinner8542
@kristiskinner8542 2 жыл бұрын
@@mariemiller8740 lol yeah that trash is nothing but nazi sympathizer bullshit. Fuck that
@MikeSavaiano
@MikeSavaiano 2 жыл бұрын
@@kristiskinner8542 How about let ppl come to their own conclusions based on the facts.
@adamhitze2180
@adamhitze2180 3 жыл бұрын
David your videos are amazing! Thank you for sharing! I'm so glad you had the foresight to film the things you have filmed because that foresight was dead on. These films are national treasures. God bless you sir and god bless America!
@zeppelinmexicano
@zeppelinmexicano 2 жыл бұрын
Self determination, a concept that we seem to value for ourselves, but not for many others. Excellent work, David. These are just real people and their voices are never heard. Politicians who make the big decisions avoid people like these. And how many Americans know about the mutiny going on among enlisted men at that time?
@estosgarage486
@estosgarage486 3 жыл бұрын
This film is gold... You could take many of the subjects from this & they wouldn't even recognize their own former views if shown. It's just like finding an old year book with notes. Some people are the same & some are completely 180° from the very life they had lived & the views they formed up to that point... Great to see how engaged & rational most were.
@Kaylin_h
@Kaylin_h 3 жыл бұрын
@Esto's Garage Yes in the 80's many just turned into their parents.
@Kaizensan1775
@Kaizensan1775 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. As a kid of the 70s, your films help know my elder family members more.
@TheCulturalCompass
@TheCulturalCompass 3 жыл бұрын
So powerful. This conversation is repeating today. I’d love to see and update. There was so much talk about the Silent Majority since the end of 2020. Together we are 💪
@niamhryan9677
@niamhryan9677 3 жыл бұрын
Woodie Guthrie said one time. There's a whole lot of rich folks want to fight. Give them the guns
@robertl.fallin7062
@robertl.fallin7062 3 жыл бұрын
@ Ryan The rich do not fight since manipulating the poor and men with a low IQ has been spectacularly successfull . McNamara was not a pioneer! [MacNamar was Sect. of Defense during the Vietnam war. His IQ cutoff was 81, Many draftees had trouble doing basic task]
@edmonddantes3640
@edmonddantes3640 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah and Woody Guthrie was an isolationist until Nazi Germany broke the nonaggression pact with the communists and invaded the Soviet Union, then he wanted us in the war in Europe. Commie stooge, him and Pete Seeger both.
@Urbanforager
@Urbanforager 3 жыл бұрын
I wish they would
@CatherinesLaw
@CatherinesLaw 3 жыл бұрын
There's a whole lotta rich folk SAY, they wanna fight, til you OFFER them a gun. Then they get all intellectual and reason the fighting away. Js
@MW-ic7lr
@MW-ic7lr 3 жыл бұрын
Comrade Guthrie, the Antifa OG
@susan5248
@susan5248 3 жыл бұрын
Nothing changes under the sun. Thank you for your documentaries. This generation needs to see how things weren't that different back then. Take out technology and it's pretty much the same.
@aurtherbrunt241
@aurtherbrunt241 3 жыл бұрын
Very true. In Australia.
@patjohn775
@patjohn775 3 жыл бұрын
@Bill Sbac but ironically keeping the rich rich in america keeps the poor richer in the long run. If in the 70s there was a revolution we would be like mexico.
@MrBenbaruch
@MrBenbaruch 3 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly. You are brilliant.
@lamasu
@lamasu 3 жыл бұрын
@@aurtherbrunt241 it's like basic drawback to living in the english speaking world. Every person I've met from Australia, UK, New Zealand everyone is always so sure how their country is the best out of them all when we're around each other. (my experience stems from multiple trips to Thailand) . . Edit: one thing we can all agree on though, Canada is at the bottom of the old commonwealth totem pole
@lamasu
@lamasu 3 жыл бұрын
@@patjohn775 surely you're not trying to elude to "trickle down economics" (shakes head in true disappointment)? Are you? Because that does not work, nor has it ever worked the rich don't "trickle down" they reinvest, as anyone should when they gain the means.
@SreyMari
@SreyMari 3 жыл бұрын
This little documentary puts things into perspective....amazing stuff. Side note, men in the 60’s-70’s had some really good hair 🙃
@spazmobot
@spazmobot 3 жыл бұрын
I kind of see how some things never change. Really great video
@cidmatrix9643
@cidmatrix9643 3 жыл бұрын
The David Hoffman History Channel is just the best
@EpicKate
@EpicKate 3 жыл бұрын
It really is! How precious a gift it is- to be able to experience this.
@jamalmckenzie5319
@jamalmckenzie5319 3 жыл бұрын
I'm so happy I just got into crypto trading and I made my first profit, I wish I knew about crypto earlier I would have made a lot of money by now
@Joe_TradingFX
@Joe_TradingFX 3 жыл бұрын
@@jamalmckenzie5319 For real crypto is profitable Crypto is the new gold
@allenmorgan6847
@allenmorgan6847 3 жыл бұрын
50 years later different decade same situation
@titubavengeance6623
@titubavengeance6623 3 жыл бұрын
"We could spend money on poverty clean up the cities."
@russellharrell2747
@russellharrell2747 3 жыл бұрын
Thirty years later you have Donald Rumsfeld talking about trillions of dollars not accounted for in the pentagon on sept 10th 2001. Think about how much just 100 billion could do for poverty.
@titubavengeance6623
@titubavengeance6623 3 жыл бұрын
@@russellharrell2747 It would eradicate it.
@rogueamusement9240
@rogueamusement9240 3 жыл бұрын
@itserich unesco
@dzxn3728
@dzxn3728 3 жыл бұрын
@@GallowayJesse meritocracy is murder. The little beleevees of the haves informs the deservees of the have-nots. At over 2 acres per person on earth yup it is a choice of getting disenherited at birth by the haves.
@thomdrolet2624
@thomdrolet2624 3 жыл бұрын
@@dzxn3728 seems to murder less people than communism.
@PMMM9
@PMMM9 3 жыл бұрын
I’m glad this was made. I hope a lot of folks watch this.
@aprilgrady6806
@aprilgrady6806 2 жыл бұрын
I love your old videos. I wish I would have went to school for history. I am so grateful for people like you and KZbin and other similar platforms (rumble) like this that allow people to learn history.
@DavidHoffmanFilmmaker
@DavidHoffmanFilmmaker 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you April for your comment. If your resources allow, I would sure appreciate your using the THANKS button under any of my videos including the one you have commented on. It is something new that KZbin is beta testing and would mean a great deal for my continuing efforts. David Hoffman filmmaker
@kaleomariz1000
@kaleomariz1000 3 жыл бұрын
I see so much ‘soul’ in this documentary. The 20th century really was the American century. When we capture the feelings and yearnings of the people who lived during these times, we can kind of feel the soul of America. This is how I feel at least.
@konglives4453
@konglives4453 2 жыл бұрын
I feel the same way, so you are not alone in your opinion.
@davidhollyfield5148
@davidhollyfield5148 3 жыл бұрын
What's really touching about this doc is the way people with differing views are able to hold a civil discourse. Sad that that's no longer possible. The forces of divisiveness have won and the people have lost.
@bonnsterthemonster
@bonnsterthemonster 2 жыл бұрын
It's a lack of love of humanity. Most people say they "Hate people".
@fleebertreatise1063
@fleebertreatise1063 11 ай бұрын
It’s still possible. I think people were just interacting with each more at that time.
@tashasmith6179
@tashasmith6179 3 жыл бұрын
This is truly a very good documentary. I hope that documentaries such as this is added into OUR AMERICAN HISTORY lessons. American children need to know about the ins and outs of the Vietnam war and all the other wars. They are our future. When I'm 80 if I make it that far I want people in office that's going to make a difference not ones that will tear America apart. To stand for the United States not let it fall
@The_Tactical_Wook
@The_Tactical_Wook 3 жыл бұрын
I love these videos. Keep up the good work
@mattm7378
@mattm7378 3 жыл бұрын
People don't talk to each other this way anymore. It seems like they all had more understanding and empathy for people who thought differently. Now we just demonize people and call them villains
@mattm7378
@mattm7378 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheHardys01 I didn't make any comment on whether what they believed was right or wrong. You projected that onto me. That's on you. I simply said they had a more decent way of dealing with one another. And while we are on it, YOU are the one who took one outlier and tried to make it seem as if everyone thought how she thought. The overwhelming majority clearly said that the war was wrong and didn't serve the people. Work on your listening skills
@mattm7378
@mattm7378 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheHardys01 once again...you only focused on one woman's comment. I listen to ALL the words. People in general were questioning authority and the story they were being told about the war. Proving that the president was wrong about the silent majority supporting the Vietnam war. They spoke up and out against the official story. That's admirable and worthy of praise. Also your comment is a logical fallacy. It is possible to praise the way a message is delivered without focusing on the content. Your "all or nothing" approach reveals a shocking inability to seperate the message from the messanger.
@aeromodeller1
@aeromodeller1 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheHardys01 Vietnam and China were historical enemies. Ho Chi Minh would have been an ally of the US.
@mattm7378
@mattm7378 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheHardys01 that was not said at all. You're looking to be angry. If THATS what you took away from listening to all the voices here then heaven help you. I very clearly heard many of the interviewees saying that people in Vietnam were owed self determination and respect even if they wanted something different than Americans. That they were entitled to the own government and their own ways of living. If all you heard and focused on was one voice and decided to paint everyone with the same brush than perhaps you need to reflect on your mindset
@mattm7378
@mattm7378 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheHardys01 sure tell yourself whatever you like
@caroled3943
@caroled3943 3 жыл бұрын
My grandfather would cut articles and pictures out of the newspaper before he let my grandmom and his daughters read the paper. My uncle came home but he never really came home.
@EpicKate
@EpicKate 3 жыл бұрын
Oh wow. That's the story for so many, isn't it?
@robingillespie4467
@robingillespie4467 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, my father too.
@caroled3943
@caroled3943 3 жыл бұрын
@@robingillespie4467 it's like you and my mom belong to a terrible club you never wanted to join. ❤
@crankyoldperson6871
@crankyoldperson6871 3 жыл бұрын
@@caroled3943 the real cost is heartbreaking.
@caroled3943
@caroled3943 3 жыл бұрын
@@crankyoldperson6871 after her brothers suicide my mother never talked about her brother with her parents ever again. No one did. Eventually the sisters all just told people their brother died from war injuries.
@Kennedy4OurCountry
@Kennedy4OurCountry 2 жыл бұрын
It's so good to hear conversations that are coherent & non-reactive. Those were the days.
@haroldfarthington7492
@haroldfarthington7492 3 жыл бұрын
9:21 love this conversation. And there’s a fantastic book about this very thing written by a WWI vet called “War is a Racket.” Would highly suggest.
@bonnsterthemonster
@bonnsterthemonster 2 жыл бұрын
And so is the court system and the "healthcare" system.
@Sturgeon54
@Sturgeon54 3 жыл бұрын
It's pretty simple, really: weapons manufacturers have no downside risk to wars - either won or lost. Instead, their downside risk is to no wars.
@dionysusnow
@dionysusnow 3 жыл бұрын
All war should be done at cost, no profit should be allowed.
@750count
@750count 3 жыл бұрын
At the end of the cold war there was the idea of the peace dividend based on the idea that there was no longer the big threat so no need to keep building up our armament That lasted about 30 seconds It scared the shit out of the military industrial complex Any excuse for continuing to build massive amounts of weaponry had to be found And we did
@zeppelinboys
@zeppelinboys 3 жыл бұрын
@@dionysusnow it's been a few years since I've read this book about WWI, one part discussed manufacturing and finding money for all the millions of tons of equipment you need. i think france, uk, and germany all had different ways of financing the war. point is i remember reading that war profiteering was a huge issue and it went through various changes as the war went on. but at least a few of the countries tried to prevent a massive war profits.
@MrMarkRoads
@MrMarkRoads 3 жыл бұрын
@@jc.1191 And how will we ever avoid one?
@donHooligan
@donHooligan 2 жыл бұрын
"The pain of war *CANNOT* exceed the woe of aftermath" --Led Zeppelin
@DJBritt
@DJBritt 3 жыл бұрын
Empathy Nowadays we hate the “other” so much, we won’t listen to a word from them It makes us weak It emboldens the ruling class We used to have integrity 😔
@scottyj6226
@scottyj6226 2 жыл бұрын
Well said
@firingallcylinders2949
@firingallcylinders2949 2 жыл бұрын
Social media hasn't helped. Everyone just seeks out an echo chamber now.
@useyournogos6845
@useyournogos6845 2 жыл бұрын
@@firingallcylinders2949 Precisely.
@newlife8318
@newlife8318 2 жыл бұрын
@@firingallcylinders2949 like the echo chamber. Thankyou!
@facelessdrone
@facelessdrone 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, if we all learned to respect and learn as much as possible, the world would be better than any heaven humans can conceive.
@27fevilien
@27fevilien 3 жыл бұрын
Wow I want to see more very interesting 👁️👁️👁️👁️👁️👁️🪔✊🏿✊🏿✊🏿✊🏿✊🏿✊🏿✊🏿 thank you for posting this
@lesgrossman4636
@lesgrossman4636 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome filmography. Good show my man
@SebastianJArt
@SebastianJArt 3 жыл бұрын
How timely. Thank you. Be brave people - you will regret it dearly if you you aren’t.
@CarolineBearoline
@CarolineBearoline 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad that you and your colleagues were driven to collect these words and images. If we can remember lessons learned yesterday, we at least have a fighting chance to build a better tomorrow
@VandalSauvage
@VandalSauvage 3 жыл бұрын
A little too naive but I like the message
@CarolineBearoline
@CarolineBearoline 3 жыл бұрын
@@VandalSauvage what might you add or remove to my statement, that removes the naivety you take issue with?
@douglasdixon524
@douglasdixon524 3 жыл бұрын
I think you make a damn good point. Unfortunately history isn't taught properly in schools anymore. You're essentially saying learn from the past so we don't make the same mistakes, that way we will build a better future.
@CarolineBearoline
@CarolineBearoline 3 жыл бұрын
@@douglasdixon524 yes, that is exactly what I meant 🙂 watching old episodes of Crossfire is cool, but the guests Buckley had on were also already established enough to have been invited on to argue broad concepts. These are regular people, passionately debating about the impacts something had/is having and what that looks / feels like on a more human level.
@theresakaplanamuso6342
@theresakaplanamuso6342 3 жыл бұрын
And my husband of 34 years who was a Marine in Vietnam died a grueling death from Agent Orange in 2007.
@vsolana1
@vsolana1 2 жыл бұрын
I’m very sorry for your loss ❤️
@hoppes9658
@hoppes9658 2 жыл бұрын
My cousin only made it to 1975. He was 26.
@Firebird-ru7je
@Firebird-ru7je 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely a worthy watch! Me and my folks and family friends still sit around the dinner table and discuss the current affairs. It's crazy how many of the conversations they have in this video are still very apparent
@100percentgradeA
@100percentgradeA 2 жыл бұрын
Good deal! More need to. All this tv and entertainment keeps everyone asleep and distracted. Which makes it harder to have discussion.
@ChadTheAlcoholic
@ChadTheAlcoholic 3 жыл бұрын
In tears. I wish we could figure the truth out about ourselves.
@gagahusband
@gagahusband 3 жыл бұрын
Damn
@maryc.mcfall4222
@maryc.mcfall4222 3 жыл бұрын
I am surprised at these views. I was a teen in 1970. It seemed to me people then liked go stereo type others. Those "hippies and or "trouble makers " were against the war and that the silent majority were pro Nixon and pro war. Apparently that was far from the truth. Things have not changed in America. Those that are most vocal get the most publicity but that may not represent all the people or the truth.
@jc.1191
@jc.1191 3 жыл бұрын
Good observation 👍
@chrisza9782
@chrisza9782 3 жыл бұрын
Great interviews. I do suspect though that the interviewers unwillingly gravitated to more respectful and humble personalities when approaching people. Naturally these types of people would be more anti-war and less blindly obedient. Might have been plenty of obnoxious drum-beating people that gave brief angry incoherent interviews that wouldn’t have made the final cut
@seanvales391
@seanvales391 2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same. These people may be true centrists I guess.
@Hammett175
@Hammett175 3 жыл бұрын
Fascinating, thanks Mr. Hoffman.
@nationalblackaccord494
@nationalblackaccord494 3 жыл бұрын
I’m glad this was made man !
@ducodarling
@ducodarling 3 жыл бұрын
5:48 - "Those people are ignorant... we're trying to save them..." How many generations will it take to fix the damage done by that mindset?
@kath1017
@kath1017 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@joeanthony7759
@joeanthony7759 2 жыл бұрын
Still working on it….
@wbans002
@wbans002 2 жыл бұрын
Same mindset been used during the colonial period. To justify invasions. Its unfortunate
@michaelangeloevans2722
@michaelangeloevans2722 2 жыл бұрын
that mindset is being used right now to justify censorship of information in the media by the state
@pattikelly8921
@pattikelly8921 2 жыл бұрын
True. But don't kid yourself that we are any less ignorant right in the here & now. Just different buzzwords, with agendas & narratives that sound like they are intelligent and virtueous. But they are just as false and corrupt. When will we ever learn..... 😢
@americanagothic7851
@americanagothic7851 3 жыл бұрын
“You had WW1, WW2, Korea, and now this. Next it’s going to be the Middle East.” I need to know how that guy knew that.
@johnmortell3087
@johnmortell3087 2 жыл бұрын
He's observant. Crystal ball not needed.
@yucol5661
@yucol5661 2 жыл бұрын
The conflicts, some wars and instability began wayyy before 2001
@everythingisfine9988
@everythingisfine9988 2 жыл бұрын
Following the bloody breadcrumbs
@RedZeshinX
@RedZeshinX 2 жыл бұрын
Oil. When it comes to America and the West's involvement in the Middle East, it always boils down to oil interests.
@leighchristopherson2455
@leighchristopherson2455 2 жыл бұрын
The "Six Day War" had already occurred in 1967. The trouble in the Middle East had already begun.
@evabartlett4599
@evabartlett4599 2 жыл бұрын
True unadulterated history, thank you sir for capturing this, preserving it, and sharing it. God bless!
@robertstallings3590
@robertstallings3590 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing to see someone fully say what they think without a verbal barrage occurring after two word
@cassidylewis5506
@cassidylewis5506 3 жыл бұрын
“Because after all, Russia hasn’t lost a man. Look what we’ve lost” well damn
@Hudini12345
@Hudini12345 3 жыл бұрын
The Russians killed 80 million of its own people who opposed communism through intentional famines, assassinations, and slave labor in the gulags.
@chickadee317
@chickadee317 3 жыл бұрын
@@Hudini12345 Right, Russia has really been through it.
@vkrgfan
@vkrgfan 2 жыл бұрын
Russian people have been through Hell and back. Russian history goes back to more that thousand years, we’ve been through many wars and genocide. The US is still a very young country..
@scottyj6226
@scottyj6226 2 жыл бұрын
@@vkrgfan the US is made up of people from nearly all the peoples of the world including Russians and believe it or not we can read history books and we do still talk about old times a lot of us fled Russia and Nazi Germany and Vietnam and all kinds of misery. People are still doing it today, our nation is young but our peoples are not.
@firingallcylinders2949
@firingallcylinders2949 2 жыл бұрын
Russia had their own Vietnam in Afghanistan
@H.pylori
@H.pylori 3 жыл бұрын
It is scary how relevant their ideas to the mess we are in today. Especially the man at 13:00 .
@Kevin_Carlson
@Kevin_Carlson 3 жыл бұрын
Keeping the country separated and divided. Prophetic words spoken by this man at 13:00.
@velvetrose7729
@velvetrose7729 3 жыл бұрын
@@Kevin_Carlson That's how it's ALWAYS been.....WE realize it but fail to act on that knowledge! Fun fact.....There were about 6 Billionaires in the United States in the 1960's.....There are 614 Billionaires as of 2020. There were about 192 Billionaires in the 60's Worldwide....There are about 2,750 now! The Rich got Richer, The Middle class became poorer and the Already Poor are being thrown in jail.....which sadly is making people Rich!
@jazzb3371
@jazzb3371 3 жыл бұрын
Especially with poverty. Texas is trying to make it illegal for the homeless to camp in Austin, and are trying to fine and jail the homeless for simply being homeless. It's crazy
@H.pylori
@H.pylori 3 жыл бұрын
@@jazzb3371 So, you take the homeless, who have no money and fine them? A lot of good that will do. Then you jail the homeless who could not pay the fine. The only benefit here is that Texas will have to foot the bill for feeding the homeless and providing health care. Maybe not a bad idea at all. Let Texas know that Debtors Prisons were outlawed in the U.S. in the mid 1800s. That form of punishment does not work.
@satanicmicrochipv5656
@satanicmicrochipv5656 2 жыл бұрын
@@H.pylori Texas and every other state get federal funding for every day they have someone in custody. Those federal funds are profits for the privatized corporate jails and prisons. Where I live, the judges that run the "drug court" program own all of the rehab centers they sentence people too. What ever happened to conflict of interests?
@gladyskravitzjr825
@gladyskravitzjr825 Жыл бұрын
This proves the old adage, “The more things change, the more they stay the same.” Here we are generations later still caught in the same evil game.
@deborahharris2962
@deborahharris2962 3 жыл бұрын
It's good to hear the voices of the people, but heartbreaking as well. Thanks for the flashback.
@johndoe-wv3nu
@johndoe-wv3nu 3 жыл бұрын
Good to see people share opinions and ideas and not fighting even if they disagree.
@yucol5661
@yucol5661 2 жыл бұрын
Because they are in person and being filmed. You can still find videos of modern people talking like them. It’s just not as fun, so it doesn’t get recomended
@johndoe-wv3nu
@johndoe-wv3nu 2 жыл бұрын
@@yucol5661 people today are far more judgemental. It's become acceptable to call someone a racist, xenophobic, etc etc, the moment you don't agree. People don't have social skills.
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