Southern Black Americans Were Angry. Historian Who Lived It Presents The Jim Crow South

The time was 1989. I was interviewing almost 200 carefully selected experts and ordinary citizens for my television series on the 1960s titled Making Sense of the Sixties. Each individual selected was unique in their ability to present their story and if you are watching this, the chances are you have already watched other clips from my 1989 interviews.
The speaker is Manning Marable and I will never forget my interview with him. He was incredibly clear thinking in part because he had seen and he had lived through what he was describing. Before the interview began, I asked him to be direct and honest about how he felt - no hyperbole. That he did in spades.
Manning Marable was a professor at Columbia University and a passionate admirer of Martin Luther King and Malcolm X, of whom he wrote an autobiography.
At the time, I was not a fan of Malcolm X but Maning got me to appreciate the good side of the man rather than to focus only his early anti-white and anti-Semitic statements.
Manning Marable was born and raised in Dayton, Ohio. His mother was a ordained minister who held a PhD. In April 1986, at the behest of his mother, 17-year-old Manning covered the funeral of Martin Luther King Jr. for Dayton’s black newspaper. That started his career.
Manning Marable held no quarter for what some black Americans were expressing at that time. Afrocentrism - looking at history from an African perspective rather than looking at history from a European perspective. He wrote (and I can hear him saying this):
"Afrocentrism was a theory that served the upwardly mobile black petty bourgeoisie. It gave them a sense of ethnic superiority without requiring the hard, critical study of historical realities. It was the latest theoretical construct of a politics of racial identity, a worldview designed to discuss the world… but never really to change it.”
Manning Marable died in 2011 at 61 years old.
I thank him for the power and clarity of his interview.
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Thank you
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[@DavidHoffmanFilmmaker]

Here is another powerful personal story From 1989 - kzbin.info/www/bejne/f4m4d5yOmrONjJY

[@studytime3461]

The reason for both maga and woke rage is that we are all n-words now, regardless of race or politics

[@Brick_Squared]

Racist someone or something that adheres to or supports racism. Racism is an ideology based on race as denoted by the suffix _ism_ and root word race. White supremacism is a political ideology based on race or racism again as denoted by the suffix _ism_ and based on race via the adjectival noun "white" in regards to the idea that the white race is supreme. White supremacism *is* racism. It is the *only* ideology based on race or _racism_ that exists in western society in an applied, practical and non-theoretical manner.

[@godbody3959]

David Hoffman I would like to inform you that your view is flawed we are still oppressed, today as much as we we're in the 50s not to tye dramatic extent, take for example, I just graduated from truck driving schoo 9 months ago l and I haven't had any driving infractions in over 20 years and still haven't been hired in a market where drivers are in high demand but because policy in place that i feel that keeps me out, I come from the ghettos of America which was by design reminiscent of jim crow, so I come with the baggage of decision that I made when I was a teen, keeps me from taking care of my family and leading a meaningful life, policies like you got to be out of prison for 7 years before you can drive a truck ridiculously reminiscent of jim crow and the under tone of racism, I can't get loans for nothing, so just another day in this hell whole of amerikkk

[@WarrenHolly]

My family is that rarity that he talked about. Thank God.

[@SuperStella1111]

You’re such a wonderful person. I love your channel. I found it by accident. Manning is incredible! The whole project is incredible. You’re lovely.

[@nora8653]

Dr. Manning Marable was my mentor in grad school! I loved watching this. He was an amazing man and he poured into the next generation of Black leaders.

[@bronzedrage]

I was 15 years old in 1989 growing up in suburban New Jersey. I experienced covert racism on a near daily basis in my predominantly white town and highschool. I didn't realize the level of stress that put me in until I attended an HBCU.

[@RePlaylist1]

@Bronzed Rage Have u thought abt counseling with the root of the stress? Your own race acknowledging you wasn't enough? You felt they were covertly against you, and you let it influence your choice of school. It's obviously still bothering you that those particular kids ignored you. Look at it this way: do you think they perceived you and think about school the way you do even after all these years?

[@AnonYmous-tr4cu]

@@RePlaylist1 Man what? The girl obviously made a smart decision. She realized “them white folks don’t like me and my life is much better with people who do like me, which are people that look like me and are not racist”. It’s that simple, its human nature to coalesce with those who are similar to you, (even more natural if those people treat you well unlike any others) what kind of Sigmund Freud questions are you asking?

[@Sidewinder528]

@@RePlaylist1 ....Huh?!?

[@pit1513]

@@RePlaylist1 huh, do you know what an HBCU is?

[@biggworld7233]

@@RePlaylist1 tell us your stupid and racist without a true confession.

[@jerfacekilla]

I get Manning's point. Black America was a civilization within a civilization during those Jim Crow years. A 'perverted blessing' as he said. This man was a great thinker.

[@dpeasehead]

Maybe more like a mass hostage or mass incarceration situation like Gaza or the West Bank?

[@Rightsforglobalcitizens]

I find the mass incarceration comment interesting. As decenedants of people who were captured, taken against their will and sold into slavery in a country on a different continent, where were the freed slaves supposed to go? If all of the white men who could read were at war, and history holds that the slaves were pretty much running the farms and plantations why did news of the war ending take so long to spread? Are black Americans celebrating smart slaves tricking slaves who weren't educated? Special Field order 15 instructed the freed slaves to stay where they were. 2 freed slaves went to negotiate on behalf of a black community that hadn't been formed with the intention of being in charge. And instead of everybody staying on their plantations and having the land issued they wandered off and Lincoln was assassinated before people could find another solution. The smart ones stayed on the plantation. Black people wanted segregation. Freed slaves raised their future generations to hate white people when there were a lot of white people who wanted to help them. Segregation protected white people from that hate. A lot of America's wealth was tied up in the cotton and tobacco fields. All of that was destroyed by the war. White people who were wealthy no longer were. People who had the choice to work or not work chose to wander around looking for work, instead of staying where they were and working and some chose to do nothing but wander around and steal or beg. Similar to the illegal immigrants invading America currently. The former slave owners managed the rebuilding of the country both in government as well as business enterprise. Segregation based on contribution. Freed blacks lived better than slaves during slavery, individuals who were free before the war, or children and grandchildren of former slave owners lived better than freed slaves. So called "woke " blacks of that time benefitted from segregation. "Buy Black" and yall did, and listened to and supported their hate speech, not realizing that everything those woke blacks that were leading you had inherited or stolen what they had and learned from a white person. Congratulations to all yall that got the genius award 🎉

[@charlesreid9337]

people now are trying to bring that back. Unfortunately including this youtuber it seems

[@keithmackenzie7680]

@@charlesreid9337what leads you to believe that of this KZbinr?

[@damonmelendez856]

@@dpeaseheadsolution- build your own homeland! Like the Jewish people did!

[@Dontdoit_]

I work with a 63 year old black man that was raised in the south around integration times and tells me how it was. It’s important that the knowledge is taught so we can prevent it from coming back.

[@emiliog.4432]

Coming back? It never left. It is very much still with us. Racism is a shape shifter. It lives deep in the hearts of white Americans.

[@ktdagoat1289]

The first problem is not only thinking but saying "So it wont comeback" when its NEVER left..

[@Oysf5277]

It never left, and America still have stomach for this kind of behavior by and large. Sometimes we as a nation encourage, participate and do little to discourage. In both north and southern United States and the gimmick now is to cover up, as if it never happened. The youth who doesn't want to participate are shut out, only the ones that doesn't see anything wrong because of the benefits are allowed in.

[@misty9908]

I truly believe in my heart there is a very small group trying to push ALLl of us ALL THE WAY BACK!

[@ktdagoat1289]

@@misty9908 It’s the ones thinking we ever moved forward.. Doing it to ourselves by not actually doing anything to progress but thinking ignoring stuff fixes it…

[@RorySchumpert]

This is what we need right now in the USA. When I was a student at the University of Colorado. We asked president Gordon Gee to provide more African American professors to get a different perspective. He hired Manning Marabel. I wish I could have taken a class that he taught, this clip was really on point.

[@carriehartigan5017]

Just having such a wise person on campus must've been quite a message of itself. Between 2 MA community colleges- LA, finishing w legal studies, acct cert followed by Bus Adm transfer Assoc (few class remain), only POC female Spanish teacher, and decade later, finally a black male was so glad to see, but said not black (my son biracial), so respectful of intricacies of a descriptor based on color- I don't like my own being 8 nationalities of my own, add 2 for my son Native West Indian and American. I shared this video to him, as a new rap artist with a new album, to not lose sight of all our ancestor's experienced in the US leading to today's being very individual, materialistic and not keeping these truths in sight while many of these things are still entrenched in people today. My son was hazed in the Marines in past 5 years, while I was reading a book by a POC angry how the military recruits the fatherless POC yet does not promote them as the high ranking remain white. I warned my son, but the recruiters played on his youth and lack of options. Fortunately my only child didn't deploy, and home on Adm Sep after field duty injuries that he's walked off best he can for now. But yes racism prevalent from my youth to today. Recall walking w POC, the bag clutching, loss of white friends while my group became diverse. The us and them mentality is very active in the US and stoked by recent political party involvement to all shades of poor, immigrant, and melanin rich. I want to remind my son to be mindful of his messaging, while surrounded by many close white associates in a formerly suburban area and not too close with either side of older family

[@answerman9933]

What a pathetic request.

[@marcosffontes]

Thomas Sowell is a better option for the job

[@RorySchumpert]

Thomas Sowell is an conservative economist, while Manning is a political scientist. That is a big difference; besides, Thomas Sowell will never leave Stanford.

[@itsmedjoom987]

@@RorySchumpertThomas Sowell is an economist yes, but also an armchair intellectual. He spouts off half baked opinions on systemic racism and economics. Not to mention his books on economics are purely from the view of neo liberal free market economics.

[@BIGbboyPHLIP]

Why have I never heard of this smart, well spoken, seemingly unafraid Black man?? Dude should have been my hero!!

[@bigdaddy3621]

White American culture does not share or support unafraid Black men

[@t-dgonzalez2012]

He was a very famous scholar and academic.

[@nancyjames7013]

I met him at a lecture he gave when I was an undergrad in the 1980's. Besides his scholarship and eloquence, he was also very kind.

[@georgesteele4838]

Marable cast aspersions on Malik Shabazz's (formerly Malcom X) sexuality based on the testimony of a career criminal.

[@SiriuslyBlack7]

These are our people that they are banning books and media on now..If you're surprised because you're just now hearing about him,don't wait for upcoming state and federal laws that are being passed to censor,and whitewash,and even ban much of our history from libraries and schools.

[@fuferito]

_Making Sense of the Sixties_ was an amazing documentary series that David Hoffman ought to be perpetually proud of. Thirty-two years after I first watched it (I was a young teen, at the time), and I still think of it fondly, and often.

[@DavidHoffmanFilmmaker]

Thank you so much for the comment and for taking the time to make it. My series seems to have affected many people who were young at that time and given them a sense of who their parents were or weren't. David Hoffman filmmaker

[@fuferito]

@@DavidHoffmanFilmmaker, You definitely tried (and the effort is evident) to present us with a slice of America which, as a Canadian, I really appreciated.

[@beefstickswellington1203]

I was taken back by how young he actually died. He looked like he was 50 or 60 in this interview and I was super surprised that he was only 39 there. He was wise beyond his years and probably had seen a lot of stress in his life. An eloquent man.

[@jzen1455]

WHoa, I'm 39, and he looks like he could be my father!

[@johnblaze6269]

Everybody looked old back then, 25 year olds all looked 35-40 back then kol

[@foreveranon6940]

@@johnblaze6269 yeah because people dressed themselves differently but having almost full gray hair for a 39 year old is just not something you see often

[@KentPetersonmoney]

That's crazy. I'm 38 ad nd he looks like he could be my father. Must the went get early.

[@MaxIsBackInTown]

Being raised under the thumb of extreme oppression will do that.

[@lanettehadley6463]

I’m a 57 year old female I was terrorized out of a job at a state park last year 7-2-23 and7-9-23. I went to work early am and found a set of park ranger clothes hanging from the ceiling. It happened the second time with only a shirt and a spotlight shining on it. I worked the job for 2 years never missed a day but had all type of other things done to me while working there. The hangings made me leave the job when I realized no one would do anything about it. I am in counseling because these people have shown me that they will kill me. Nothing has changed about racism but the year we live in. I worked in a Drs office from 1987 to 2003. The racial hatred was horrible but it was a inner city family practice. I stayed so long because the public needed a black person to even out the hate. I had to leave all that hatred to raise my daughter. The work I did after that was home health care and the racism in that field is just as bad. In2020 I worked at a adult daycare and the nurse I guess wanted to be nasty so she showed me a horn growing out of her forehead and she taught bible study almost everyday. The world is terrible when the employers treat employees with no regard then always talk about shortages in all these areas like nursing. Blacks need a hate crime bill and trauma pay

[@user-iy5it9dl5u]

They were more scared of you than you were scared of them

[@DMVNotaryTeam]

Thank you for posting your service to humanity. I concur with you on everything you've stated. The mental, emotional, and anxiety we are inflicted on us in corporate and private corporations are more than deserving of trauma pay!

[@johncaldwell881]

@@user-iy5it9dl5u You can stand by that bullshit all you want

[@nikkin.9206]

​@user-iy5it9dl5u that's always the excuse, and LIE. white people in America are exhausting....

[@Jebe_Noyon]

I’ll take „things that never happened“ for $400 🤣

[@craig6t]

What he was saying about not being able to swim in white pools is true. When white communities built their pools in those days they expected it to be "White Only." And they wouldn't let a non-white person anywhere near the pool. I remember the black model Beverly Johnson's story about going to a white pool with a friend. When people saw her get in the pool they got out. She said that, during this time, she had no idea what everyone was doing. The friend later told her they drained the pool! This exemplifies the type of pathology Europeans are capable of. They go from constant war with each other in Europe to one big homecoming in America, and everyone is an outsider--an other--except them!

[@karensback]

So, they should have a right to choose who goes into their pools if you want to go into a pool then get your own.

[@user-hx1du1er3k]

@@karensbackin a public pool dipsh!t? Really?

[@itsmedjoom987]

@@karensbackfound the racist.

[@j101303]

@@karensbackoh shut the hell up.

[@bumblebee4280]

​@@karensback Alright. That's nice. But if you're going to discriminate someone make sure you've never benefited from anything of theirs. Pay them back for all the free labour you took from their people and ask them to leave. Otherwise you have no intergrity.

[@towerofresonance4877]

R.I.P. Manning Marable! 11 years too long now😔

[@SDC1949]

I grew up in Indiana, was born in Virginia. My parents previous experiences in Va were tangible and awful. My siblings and I grew up with their memories and experiences of our own. This generation of young black people are now experiencing a resurgence of what my parents suffered and what touched my generation. The end is closer than we think. Malcolm was more right than we understood at the time. God will repay. I hope I see it before I die. I’m waiting…

[@trashtalker9753]

People who wait on God don't ever get anything.

[@carolynfrink5569]

Thank you for documenting this. I am a doctorate student doing research on the Black experience, and this interview is invaluable in understanding the effects of racism and historical trauma, not only to those directly affected but also to society as a whole.

[@wamcalif5]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/eKS3fqdtp6pnhtksi=0n5zeJlFJrS-bq3z

[@lanettehadley6463]

@@carolynfrink5569 here’s a black experience modern day. Last May 2023 I was victim of road rage. This day I was at work at a state park. I took a license plate number and handed it to the front desk mid June. by July 2 when I went to work there hung from the ceiling a set of clothes made to look like a dead person with about 5 ring type cameras pointed on the scene. I go to work on the weekends early 745 am. I work a cleaning contract job at the park. By the time I did what was needed and went back to the main floor I saw park ranger Tyler go to the basement and immediately come back up from the basement looking a little more pale than when he went down. July 9 I went to work and hanging from the ceiling but off to the right hand side was a shirt hanging but has a spotlight shining on it. By July I had worked there 21 months. The first week of August I spoke with the owner of the contract company Triple R janitorial services he said he lives in Texas and would call in September when he came to town. September 8 I called the office due to discrepancy in pay and spoke to Rita. Told her I’m waiting to speak to Tyrone. She said he came here 9 -2. I told Rita about the problems with the hangings and told her I will know if you tell the office by the way they act. The word got to the people at the park which made me go to human relations the police local tv channel the f b I no one will help. Now I fear for my life and I sought counseling. I left the job after no help and it gets dark early in the fall. I didn’t go back after 10-5-23

[@deemari577]

Thank you. These type interviews/docs need to continue to be taught. I grew up on Tony Brown's Journal, Angela Davis, Stokely Carmichael poets such as Nikki Giovanni and many black consciousness. This gave us pride, we went to college, we protested then we had children and we protested less, believed things would change for our children then generation after generation that anger popped up under a different world order in a different direction. Look at many of our young men and women today, so far removed from the early ideological black fight.

[@aarondigby5054]

Too many baby daddys and baby mamas.

[@DieselPurge]

The white man will call it CRT

[@Bambi7ish]

@@aarondigby5054 They will be lost once this generation dies off. Many are clueless to the price that was paid for their freedom.

[@DaBaSoftware]

​@@DieselPurgethey already do. -a Floridian

[@DieselPurge]

@@DaBaSoftware Yes I know 😔

[@therestlessspiritvintage]

I grew up near Walton County GA. It was repressed even in the 90s. My cousins lived in a predominantly black neighborhood because that was where the poor lived. Even now, the downtown is posh and picturesque, but go 2 blocks over and you start seeing how it hasn’t really changed that much.

[@charlesreid9337]

Im always blown away when i hear the "dangerous part of town"... In my experience as a southern white man... the black communities are FAR more friendly and welcoming than the more white neighborhoods.

[@sunshine9717]

It hasn't changed that much. Because black people became comfortable living below their means.

[@nathanmyles3785]

It's crazy especially to a transplant like me that the comfortable subdivision my family lives in used to be a plantation with dozens of slaves. Loganville, GA

[@kenwest00]

Thanks David. Very thoughtful piece. Dr. Marable taught at Fisk in the eighties and, while I would come to work as an administrator there much later, I always took every opportunity to view his papers in the archives. This is a very special perspective and has great relevance in these times.

[@DavidHoffmanFilmmaker]

Thank you. I think that the relevance to these times is obvious and powerful. That's one of the reasons I posted his wonderful monologue. David Hoffman filmmaker

[@Findaway2day]

It's 2024, and even to this day, Blacks in America do not cease to experience the racism that is America. I'm 68 yo, Black female, I live near the beach and sometimes walk in an area that's overwhelmingly white, and when I walk there, I can feel the racism, it's like it permeate the atmosphere. It's not that anyone says or does anything it's just like walking into another country and I live less then 10 miles away. I feel like maybe I need a passport to be there. One of the things that this gentleman said that I think is very prevalent even today is how the Black man or woman today, can be fully and even overly qualified yet does not get the job and knows deep down it was due to the skin that's he's in. He gets to internalize that rejection, and disappointment, not of himself, but from the heap of continuous disappointments America makes. On the other hand, a white man doesn't get the job, but another does, the one that didn't get the job goes home and he's mad, but it would never enter his mind that it was due to the skin he's in, however, had that Black man gotten the job, the white guy would have gone home furious and claimed reverse discrimination, called the Black man out his name and probably go join a ws group for his hurt, but if another white man got the job he'd accept that he was not as qualified as the other white man, but if he works harder at improvement he faces no other obstacles, however, no matter how much improvement or how qualified a Black man is, his skin is an obstacle in America.

[@sylmen1111]

Thank you for that intelligent response I appreciate a truthful conversation where so much denial has been prevalent 💖🙏💯

[@karensback]

Then *STAY* *AWAY* *FROM* 🤍

[@lisalee3067]

Maybe it’s them that need a passport !

[@herbertpearson5665]

Well said!

[@Sony-mu7ol]

@@karensback You are in the wrong spot. Totally missed the point

[@sixbe9002]

You never let us down when it comes to your documentations. Thank you for showing the world perspectives they might have not otherwise have seen

[@TeddySchnapps]

The sad truth is when the abused dog barks back the mean owner would rather kill it on the spot then help it heal.

[@tcrijwanachoudhury]

While this analogy has problematic connotations, it does not make it any less powerful or less true

[@parkerjohnson2368]

You think Black people are abused dogs? What are white people?

[@kmsleyang8972]

@@tcrijwanachoudhury 🙄🙄🙄🙄

[@DaBaSoftware]

​@@kmsleyang8972what does that mean

[@kmsleyang8972]

@@DaBaSoftware the “problematic connotations bit” it’s just an analogy and it’s a proper one…no one is actually saying anyone black is a dog. I get so tired of extra sensitive people. Looking to make everything a problem or racist or semi racist. And before you go off. I am black I am just extremely light my great grandfather was half white and this is just how I came out. 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@stpeterscooksriver1873]

There is a profundity within this interview that raises issues that go beyond “racism.” One is the way in which oppressed people draw on their own strengths and community and culture, for their sense of identity and not the shallowness of affluence. I think the words are, “it covers all bases,” and quite magnificently at that.

[@maxjoseph347]

What a gut wrenching interview. The way that Mr Marable related his experiences leaves a lasting impression. Will watch again❤

[@thelastremnantofevil]

He is such a clear and strong speaker. The fact that his testimony was saved is truly a blessing.

[@bcarr1122]

Mr. Hoffman, thank you so much for sharing the interview. As I listened to Dr. Marable, I couldn't help but shed a tear or two, as much for the gross indignities of the present as the heinous oppression of the past. Yes, times have changed, but the more things change. . . .

[@brianpierre42]

This is what’s missing in our community. Elders passing down culture, wisdom, morals, guidance and self love. This well spoken brother truly is appreciated.

[@kojoefante]

Certain things after a while goes without saying ..

[@kenmcdaniel6913]

Tell the truth my brother. I am 66 years old and i lived it all. Moving frim the south to the north i lived everything he's talking about.

[@charlesreid9337]

i'm white and southern so .. i dont have your perspective. But in my experience there is more open racism in the north and midwest. The segregation is open. The police are openly racist. Hell in nyc being black means the cops have the right to stop and search you. There is a lot of racism in the south but it seems less cancerous. Though... im starting to think most racism is perpetrated by the police.. by design. Thankfully auditors and copwatch channels are dropping a hammer on that

[@kojoefante]

I appreciate you My Good Sir, can you please tell me around what time did mainland Africans started coming to America?

[@nathanmyles3785]

@@kojoefante After black Americans fought for civil rights the immigration standards were changed and allowed for non-Euro immigrants in the early 70s. You won't find many africans or islander black people who came here before the 70s.

[@mountainlinx]

This should be shown in schools 4 times a year, at the beginning of each season….and for the record, it’s still like this today, even though in different shapes and forms….

[@tometriceshepherd6609]

I totally agree with you. So true today. They think we're stupid.

[@JWF99]

Great interview here David! Thanks! I've always watched and listened closely to Manning, even as a young person myself in 1989 I liked how pragmatic he was✌

[@modevildoc]

Thanks for sharing! A must needed drop of intionally untought historical knowledge in the classroom, which defined recent past; and still defines the present!

[@JakeTheMuss10454]

As a Dominican I know he's speaking the TRUTH. AFRO AMERICANS & LATINOS OF COSCIENCE WITH WHITES OF CONSCIENCE MUST UNITE!!

[@promayes8186]

This was a great clip from a very powerful interview and even though I was born on the 80s my dad passed down these moral beliefs and respect for elders and the pride of black history. It's important the young knows where they came from

[@kaleighsue8463]

Thank you for documenting this man’s experience and the uncomfortable facts he presents. We must never forget!

[@Talleyhoooo]

Wow, his response is so raw and contemplative at the same time. This is an amazing interview, thank you so much David.

[@DavidHoffmanFilmmaker]

Thank you so much for the support. David Hoffman filmmaker

[@jasontaylor2237]

Very interesting Mr. Hoffman. As a 46 y/o black male still learning about the history of my ancestors and the treatment of Afro Americans in the U.S I want to thank you for sharing this interview.

[@SusannahPerri]

What a proud and completely true statement this is, David! This should be in American history archives. I wish this man was still alive.

[@SusannahPerri]

I don’t know why I wrote the word “proud,” I think it was an autocorrection. It’s out of context. I think I meant to write, “important,” because it is!

[@joelkoffi2806]

@@SusannahPerri good one

[@camishanimmons1766]

There are plenty of educated people, who actually lived through Jim Crow who know how to articulate their story. This man is just calm...which probably makes the plain whites more comfy. Smh

[@dphd5164]

I too wish he were still here.😢

[@tonywhite2567]

We should always give our children the message they are somebody. When I hear the comments all over and social media it makes me think that the hearts of some of our adversaries hasn't changed much in all these years.

[@jamesstarks4574]

They , Euro Americans and their followers, are mostly anti-black& anti-African by familial training and activity. The USA system is a settler colonial capitalist state. The blue print for chattel slavery, mass genocide, apartheid, Zionism, Nazism, All under capitalism!!!

[@orionfl79]

Your son's takeaway on this reminded me of something I came across when I used to work for a local community college that was founded back in the 1950's. At one point, they were looking to relocate our department into one of the older buildings on campus and I was given the chance to look at the blueprints to see how we could shoe-horn all of our staff inside. Some of the prints showed how the building had been renovated over the years, and I was actually shocked to see that originally there had been three bathrooms labelled on the plan as W, N, and M. It baffled me at first, then it dawned on me what the N stood for. Looking through the pages, it seemed over the years that third bathroom was turned into a storage closet then eventually sliced in half and joined with the woman's and men's. But my overall thought after seeing that was gee... Didn't they realize back then that if we just got over our differences and worked together there would have been more toilets and a whole lot less discomfort in the world?

[@tymelogix]

'We are no longer on the back of the bus, we now drive the bus, but yet as of date we are still on that buss!'

[@LisaBrown-kb4nx]

I don't get your point. It wanna sound wise, but what is the point you're trying to make? Because what's wrong with still being on the bus. There wasn't anything wrong with being on the bus to begin with. What was wrong was being told where on the bus you could ride while on the bus. Next, if blacks now driving the bus, aren't you technically on the bus which speaks to your issue with black "still being on the bus." So, basically I'm still curious to find out from you, what is wrong with being on the bus. I'm genuinely not getting what you're saying.

[@kojoefante]

@@LisaBrown-kb4nx you just don’t get it …

[@snaek2594]

@@kojoefante please go ahead and explain it then.

[@tymelogix]

​@@snaek2594He who is sleep let him sleep, he who is awake let him be awake. Have you dating couple on here ever wonder why Jesus said "he who have an ear let him here" probably not huh

[@tymelogix]

​@@LisaBrown-kb4nxso you want me to elaborate on what you don't understand? Stay sleepy I'm not going to validate myself for ignorance

[@drewpall2598]

All of your interviews that I have seen from your documentary on making sense of the 1960's that you did in 1989 are excellent! I've said this before I don't think we can ever really make sense of the 1960's but I enjoy hearing interviews by those who lived through it! as you know it was an extraordinary and turbulent time period to have lived through. Peace, love and happiness David Hoffman.

[@tometriceshepherd6609]

Yes indeed it was some troublesome time, but with prayer and faith some of made it through. Thanks God for watching over us.

[@Madkalibyr]

1989-the year I was born! Thank you so much for sharing with all of us here

[@majesticxpressions]

From this interview I have learned that during Jim Crow we treated EACHOTHER better. We respected each other and had a sense of community. Children respected their elders. We TAUGT our kids OURSEVLES! WE TOOK CARE OF ONE ANOTHER!

[@karenstubblefield2026]

The stories from my grandparents from Alabama still have me shuttering today.

[@dessiewilliams-bain2745]

Soo true, that explains why Folks American Govt did not want Blacks in America to be exposed to other cultures of Black revolutions and freedom in Haiti, and in the Caribbean. I am so happy that I had not exist then, or was in this racist country. Though it was and is still a rude awakening, we have to fight and resist to overcome. Doing nothing and turning a cheek is viewed as acceptances; somethings are worth dying for. We have to rally and fight Racism; to protect the rights of our future generations of children after we are gone .....................

[@wizardoffrobozz]

I know the people who are listening here are not the ones who NEED to hear this.

[@charlenef7138]

You can't deny another's lived experiences - Truth ❤❤❤ Facts 😊😊😊 Reality 🎉🎉🎉 "Say It Loud"

[@CultureTalk222]

I really enjoy the content that you post. Thanks for documenting these things. I am grateful to be able to see the perspectives and get the knowledge from my elders.

[@CultureTalk222]

I was born in March 1989, it’s interesting to see and hear what was going on at the time.

[@fazbell]

Outstanding series. I grew up in the Jim Crow south. Still a bizarre memory, many years later.

[@jmpattillo]

Thank you, thank you, thank you. Thank you so much David for making your life’s work available to a wider audience.

[@DavidHoffmanFilmmaker]

John: Thank you thank you for your kind comment. If your resources allow, I would sure appreciate your using the THANKS button under any of my videos including the one you have commented on. It is something new that KZbin is beta testing and would mean a great deal for my continuing efforts. David Hoffman filmmaker

[@DaisyGalvanlikes]

Hey David I really enjoyed this interview, im 19 and I would say it definitely gave me more perspective on the civil rights movement and the Jim Crow era. What he said about North vs South during that time was especially interesting as I had never heard of that before. Thank you for sharing your work!

[@terriharrigan891]

Always great videos. So interesting and educational. Such a well explained documentary. Thank you for sharing David

[@lovememoremeticulous4378]

How insightful intelligent and just shear power was Malcolm X. A person that can see light in all the darkness and the ability to concretely speak to it.

[@paulagrant1073]

I was raised in the East and I never saw racism like this until zi went to Georgia. I went to school with black, blacks worked everywhere and my favorite teacher was black. We didn't have separate bathrooms or water fountains and every black person went to the same restaurants and sat where they wanted to on busses. If someone came on a bus if it was filled and they were elderly, pregnant or informed, we young ones would give up and give them our seats no matter what race or gender for that matter. You could not sass those who were older than you no matter what race or gender. So I didn't see this racism till I got to Georgis on our trip to Florida for our honeymoon in 1969. It was culture shock for us. I am glad it has changed since then.

[@ReginaldBurns-ox6nm]

U Think Think Again please

[@BloodNote]

This comment tells me that you're 2hite and most likely ignored the racism just because it wasn't blatant to you....

[@NolaCross-lr8zr]

​@@Mimi-ht6xrIF YOU ARE WHITE, YOU DON'T LOOK FOR SOMETHING THAT HAS NEVER HAPPEN TO YOU OR YOU HAVE NEVER EXPERIENCED AND THAT IS RACISM! AND MALCOLM IS RIGHT! BLACK PEOPLE CAN'T BE RACIST AND IF YOU THINK OTHERWISE, THEN YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE DEFINITION OF RACISM IS. IN CASE YOU DON'T KNOW, LET ME SCHOOL YOU. RACISM: PERPETUATE WHITES BEING SUPERIOR AND BLACKS OR ANY OTHER NON WHITE GROUP ARE INFERIOR. PREJUDICE IS DIFFERENT! PLEASE NO THAT! AND IF YOU ARE A BLACK AMERICAN: YOU STILL HAVE THAT SLAVE MENTALITY AND YOU CAN BE ANYWHERE IN THE US FOR THAT!

[@johnkennedy3669]

Thank you this is wonderful, I've just been trying to learn more about this part of history. Your interviews always seem to enable me to understand what the people who lived it actually felt.

[@smokindatshit8268]

I grew up in south Florida During the 80’s and 90’s Been called every racial slur Got beat up by police multiple times for next nothing before I turned 16 I had been assaulted by police well over a dozen times Namely Hollywood police department and broward sheriffs officers

[@smokindatshit8268]

@@koschmx yall white people can blame democrats and can blame republicans But African Americans just see racist ass white people So if you want to debate politics You’re wasting your time

[@cheleftb]

Thank for doing this interview and sharing it.

[@brianmaguire6814]

Thank you and God Bless Mr. Hoffman. These documentaries you are sharing are incredible. They truly can help shape the future. You have done your part on this earth 🙏

[@jamescurrie2246]

The risk of standing against oppression is universal. Many of the white people who stood for the rights of black people were persecuted as well. Although not nearly as aggressively.

[@TheVuduYuDu]

Thank you for posting these interviews. Such a service.

[@ahnraemenkhera7451]

Thanks to David Hoffman for this Lovely retrospective short! I, too, was once privileged to have met Dr. Marable, a wonderful man, a Family man, the type of man who embodied Brotherhood on so many levels. And he was KIND to people. He never used his erudition as an excuse to look down on or to look askance toward anybody!! Always accessible, always thoughtful. I WISH I still had my original copies of his books, “Speaking Truth to Power” & “Beyond Black & White!” So insightful, so pinpoint accurate, & so relevant to his time & this time. It deeply saddened me when he died, & what great potential for meaningful (scholarly & economic) reformation was LOST with his death! Just that one death, in the wake of so many, many others. Had he lived a couple decades more, the “infrastructure” of his ideas would have taken material shape-I have no doubt. It’s too bad that the New Jim Crow is designed to discredit his works & those of many great scholars of Thought under the umbrella of so-called “CRT.” I don’t believe that things are measurably “different” today because the signage has been taken down & we can all go to the public bathrooms & enter common public spaces to spend & splurge. As Ms. Yvette Carnell has stated many times: “ADOS/Black people are still bottom-caste, …we remain tethered to the bottom strata of the society,” as wave upon wave of new citizens, by birth or by migration, washes over us, all learning in their turn to denigrate, disparage, blame & shame the descendants of those who endured antebellum enslavement, lynchings, bombings, all manner of daily atrocities & “new” forms of systemic systematic disparity-with no remittance-to make place for those without historical context-based much more on artfully contrived “race” than on so-called “class.” The latter of which is merely a fleeting illusion for those persons classified “Black” in the economic, political, legal, social, & educational, sexual & religious structures of the society. Like David Hoffman’s son, many young Nonwhite people remain confused, racially illiterate, & too quick to grasp at shortcuts in attempting to comprehend just what mandatory state-imposed segregation (the superficial kind) was really about. On the surface, it appeared like a separate-but-equal lunchroom. In reality, its scope was designed to ensure legalized unequal Outcomes. Outcomes which persist, despite all the hiding of the visually inculpatory evidence, BUT which zoning, tracking, funding & gerrymandering denote to this day without question. We (as a nation-concept) shall not have the kind of opportunity to substantiate “change” that Dr. Marable envisioned again, nor look upon his ilk anytime soon. “Sometimes opportunities are simply lost,” as a good friend recently remarked to me. It took too long to produce just one Manning Marable & “his hour” was, as always, far too short. Peace, Blessings, Truth, Justice, Correctness to All during the Holy Season. Thanks again for reminding us all who we are, where we’ve been, & what it will require to be the most constructive people that ‘history’ may yet produce! 🇺🇸🕯🌲⚖️🕯🌲

[@dreamyx01]

That’s awesome you got to meet him. I was 17 in 1989 a senior in high school and this is the first time I’ve heard of this great educator. My parents were born into the Jim Crow south. His voice is just as important today. The older I get I am seeing history really does repeat itself.

[@ahnraemenkhera7451]

@@dreamyx01 Not only does history “repeat,” but the Patterns that formulate racial/class systems & dynamics (between people) remain intact-for centuries!! I’m sorry that there are fewer people today who “walked among” the Dr. Marables, Dr. Tourés, Dr. Huey Lewises & sooo many more as we Baby Boomers were honored & blessed to have done-so CASUALLY, without a thought about it!! 🥰☺️🙃🙃😊 But a FEW of us were listening & learning something. I recommend that you try to order or purchase some of Manning Marable’s books! Any of them are WELL worth the read, as he was a careful, thorough, & thoughtful Educator, who wrote mainly for young students, but he (eventually) gained a wider audience, too; & went on to even becoming a best-selling, award-winning sociologist/political theorist through his published works!! A brilliant man, & as I mentioned, very kind, very down-to-earth. His cousin & I happened to have been classmates, long ago. I could say her character is much the same, so maybe some families have IMPORTANT traits in-common, that have nothing whatsoever to do with “race” or class. 😊💕 Enjoy the readings! Best Wishes & Thanks for reminding me where I came from! 🕯🙏🏽🌲🕯🙏🏽🌲🕯

[@angelamaryfussey3461]

Now I understand why we moved to California. I was 4... and sad.

[@TBullCajunbreadmaker]

The XO on our DDG Destroyer was a black man and I respected that man greatly. He was a good equal man and was fair I went up to 2 XO masts while on duty. He was a good guy and all I ever got was a little extra duty. He knew how hard our jobs were. We were part of the era when everything started to change in this country.

[@raycavazos8927]

My grandparents are Mexican and grew up in the south. I just literally got done asking them about it and why it is that it's always blacks that talk about them their treatment and Mexicans never really say much. They just told me that it was nowhere near as bad for Mexican people as it was for black people. That whites were actually very tolerant of them and it was only certain places or people that would not let them in or deal with them but for the most part everybody was pretty accepting of Mexicans. Strange In My Mind that you would prejudice against one color and not all colors

[@raycavazos8927]

It really begs the question though all of this of where people today are getting off saying that "institutional racism" is still a thing and that blacks or people of any ethnicity don't have the same rights and opportunities to advance themselves nowadays. People parents and more likely now their grandparents or great grandparents may have experienced horrible racist jim crow policy, but nobody today has ever been segregated, or told they can't be somewhere or do something because they are whatever colour. And they especially have NEVER BEEN A SLAVE.

[@protogoniascension]

If black people were still slaves they would be accepted better. Those same white people would let the black folk cook and clean their homes and sleep in their attic if they could exploit their labor.

[@mariowalker9048]

Sounds like Texas in the 50s

[@SE-gs6gd]

White people in south saw Hispanics and Asians as more like them. This was the difference. Black people were considered inferior creatures and not at all like white people even though blacks people are human beings. There was an interview of some white woman in a neighborhood where they were considering desegregating the housing. She said that she wouldn’t mind Latino or Asian people but black people were not the same and couldn’t mix with proper white people. It may have been in the Eyes on the Prize series I think. Excellent series btw

[@grmpEqweer]

@@raycavazos8927 The stats say black people still have a harder time staying employed, have a harder time getting home loans compared to equally-qualified white people, and resumes with black-sounding names get less callbacks than resumes of equally-qualified people who happen to have white-sounding names. Black people do drugs at the same rate as whites, but they're 13 times more likely to go to prison for it. Black people are 3x as likely to be killed by police. Black people are more likely to go to underfunded public schools. Black people are less likely, because of racial discrimination, to get parental monetary gifts for college. Meaning they either don't go to college, or rack up more debt than other demographics. They generally are still the last hired and first fired. Their payscale is lower. On average, by several thousand a year below white people. But no, systemic discrimination isn't real. /s

[@LReno-di9cm]

David. You have not been popping up in my feed lately.... glad for this pop up.

[@geraldcastellow9398]

Thanks for the info I can’t wait to share it on my two channels!

[@DavidHoffmanFilmmaker]

Awesome! Thank you! David Hoffman filmmaker

[@supernerd4677]

Another aspect of the “perverse blessing” of Jim Crow was that black Americans actually had thriving economies of their own. Was there poverty? Yes. But they had their own banks and businesses.

[@megaoldskool76]

I agree

[@spirithawk2418]

Have you ever heard of the destruction of Tulsa Oklahoma??!! They had that too and it didn't save them from white violence and destruction of millions of dollars of their money and property. Also was the time any white person could pull you out of your home and lynch and castrate you at a whim. Also blacks were given old school books to learn old information. I'm 65 years and remember well

[@supernerd4677]

@@spirithawk2418 Tulsa wasn’t the only place where blacks had a thriving economy.

[@ceciliavillalobos9837]

And still we fight against this so call freedom that is not equally received

[@Cng215]

Then thy u.s government sanctioned bombing them from the skies

[@AnunnakiThe1]

David ? the things you bring to the world and Public awareness are by far priceless to come today to carry new generations' thoughts into a Higher level . I humbly give you all the respect and ask the Gods and Goddesses of heaven to bless you and your family and may they grant you a Long and prosperous Life . thank you David , Thank you .

[@DW10463]

I appreciate this man’s perspective. He is quite educational. New perspectives are refreshing.

[@magnoliasburden4112]

LOVED the comparison he made of Malcolm X & Martin Luther King Jr. I don't come across many who can see that the latter X, (after the pilgrimage, hajj) was also the latter King.

[@stevenm6453]

Great information explained so well!

[@Franaflyby]

Manning was a very wise well spoken man. The world needs more people like him. Much respect. ✌️

[@DavidHoffmanFilmmaker]

Thank you. I agree Olivia. David Hoffman filmmaker

[@veebrame9901]

Excellent analysis.

[@DreamGyrl360]

This was wonderful and you're wonderful. Thank you for sharing, Mr. Hoffman

[@DavidHoffmanFilmmaker]

Thank you for your comment. If your resources allow, I would sure appreciate your using the THANKS button under any of my videos including the one you have commented on. It is something new that KZbin is beta testing and would mean a great deal for my continuing efforts. David Hoffman filmmaker

[@DreamGyrl360]

@@DavidHoffmanFilmmaker done!

[@arthurdalton517]

Mr Hoffman what a great interview you did a excellent job with the gentlemen. Now I am from CA and I don't remember that there in the 60s. I am from the greater San Francisco Bay area

[@ax2643]

Thank you, as someone who was born after this interview its insightful to be able to listen to a perspective from someone who actually lived through jim crow.

[@SE-gs6gd]

Are you only around white people? My grandparents and parents lived in the Jim Crow south and actually left the south in the mid 60s to escape it- left to NY state specifically. This is a common story for many black peoples who grew up in the south at that time. This isn’t ancient history to just be remembered. Talk to black people living now who experience this. They will tell you the stories about this stuff.

[@a88aiello]

Thank you for these precious commentaries on our history. I hope it will inspire current and future generations to combat the systemic oppression that persists.

[@Don_daddy619]

Thank you Mr Hoffman. It's folks like you who give us hope in this land we can do so much more together than apart Rise to your potential It's Worth It So Many Have Been Sacrificed Already 🇺🇸

[@ethancastillo6673]

Thanks for this David !

[@peterlubbers5947]

Very good interview of a very sad issue.🙏

[@karenh2890]

Very thought-provoking interview.

[@MrAdal206]

I love watching these interviews so much.

[@VK-iq6qv]

I'm 57 years old and I'll never forget when we went to a shoe store here in Waco Texas I couldn't try on shoes and that's what's my first experience with segregation I believe I was 6 or 7 years old then and I'll never forget that I'm still in Texas today but things haven't changed all that very much oh you can try on shoes now but different stuff hadn't changed and if anybody tells you that Texas has changed it has not all that much

[@prosmokeprochokeantibroke]

Waco has changed a lot

[@pattrell5257]

My opinion is that of another white man from England: how does a white person honestly feel about black reparations?! This is the deciding factor for me! Some of the other things that Jane Eliot was doing was also helpful, but this is the one thing that white racists do not want blacks to have and, yet, is far more deserving than any group that already has been given it by the gov't(Jane sounds like Abrams when she includes Native Americans in the black reparations discussion in order to sidewind her way out of having to give an emphatic YES and expound that YES)! How did a Native American respond to Abrams?! She said that democrat politicians, etc. needed to stop including them in the reparation discussion, because they already had it! Now, despite the positive things that Jane Eliot has represented, she is still racist against blacks and apart of the white supremacist system! Likewise, if you are white, black, or whatever color and do not support black reparations, then you are racist and apart of the white supremacist system! This is my opinion, but I am sure that's the way a lot of blacks see it!

[@dlhawks]

Amazing work, channel and vision. I hope filmmakers on and off KZbin take note

[@DavidHoffmanFilmmaker]

David: Thank you for your comment. If your resources allow, I would sure appreciate your using the THANKS button under any of my videos including the one you have commented on. It is something new that KZbin is beta testing and would mean a great deal for my continuing efforts. David Hoffman filmmaker

[@varimarc1]

Mr. Hoffman, I love your work and greatly appreciate you.

[@gregoryvalente1373]

I do not watch every video you upload, I am just too busy to watch them all, but when I see a new upload from you that catches my eye, it always makes my day. The way you cultivated and then captured that raw emotion and truth in this video and many others will fasinate the future for many years as we will be able to remember that mentality actually going around and the true feelings that no one had to say because everyone always felt it.

[@sephie4]

Amazing and thank you for this message.

[@DavidHoffmanFilmmaker]

Thank you for the support. David Hoffman filmmaker

[@matthewfarmer6830]

Thanks for sharing this video today David Hoffman film maker.🎥🙂👍

[@jerryg6230]

Here in Florida the goverNA would deem teaching this information CRT and illegal to teach in public schools

[@georgelelandturner]

This is a very profound and beautiful reflection

[@wildfire9280]

This sums up exactly what I thought about the rebuttals to the Kerner Commission finding racism as the source of the 1967 race riots. Black Southerners were so throughly engulfed by Jim Crow even the consideration of violent action against it would be unthinkable. It would simply bear too many risks, too terrible consequences, and could easily end like Nat Turner’s Rebellion. With more oppression.

[@gnote206ify]

Love this channel!💪🏾❤️👑

[@paulfelix9081]

Awesome interview, I appreciate your efforts to make clear several things that enlighten the views of your channel

[@hustlaus]

I see so many parallels between what he spoke and what I witness today as a Gen Xer.

[@emzywillrich7243]

I tell people all the time that racism did me a favor. My father who served in WWII was not allowed to fight, although trained. He and other black men pilled potatoes. My beautiful and smart mother was not able to pursue her dream of becoming an historian. So, when my father got out of the Army and walked into my Aunt's Diner, and saw my mother, that event would not have happened. If allowed to fight on the front line, my father would probably have been killed. My mother would not have been in her Aunt's Diner but away at college (my mother was almost 20 years younger). Since professional women did not have many children, she would not have had seven children. Since I was the third of seven, I probably would not have been born. My mother always told us to take advantage of the opportunities that we've been given because had she had them, she would not have had seven children. We laughed but knew she was serious. We did not disappoint her. Almost all of us received advanced degrees. So, even out of an horrific racist environment, some beautiful flowers still grow.

[@studytime3461]

Your mom is awesome... but I warn you, when a family enters the middle-class, it often acquires both the good and bad habits of affluence... my families great grand parents were dignified hardworking poor people who dragged their kids into college... but now most of us are sucked into the same morass that most of the secular mainstream society is these days... so don't lose touch with your childhood and your mother's honest background... otherwise your kids might run around with dyed hair and confused attitudes!

[@rik4369]

And don't forget Blacks were prohibited from gaining access to VA LOANS, VA SCHOOL GRANTS and VA Housing certificates. These programs is how The American Middle Class was created. It wasn't stopped by individuals. The US Government programs prevented our access to these benefits, earned by service.

[@HappyMomma412]

Thank you, David, for doing this. It means more than you can imagine! Love, light, and peace to you, your loved ones, and your audience. 🙏🏾💜🌍🌈🦋🙏🏾 You always put out some really neat and informative stuff! 🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋

[@rne1223]

This is some powerful stuff. Thank you for sharing this knowledge sir.

[@janebell189]

As a black woman who lives up North and interracially dates white men but is single by choice at the moment, I can honestly say that so much of that is still going on today. I have encountered a lot of racism and I am in my thirties. I am not going to go back and forth with anyone on here about how far we as black people have come because there is no need, my feelings are valid and based on my own volatile experience. I can tell that there have also been positive changes and progress. I appreciate you showing this video to us and you showing this to your 16 year old son as well, it's important.

[@loriannrichardson7644]

What was the point of writing about your interracial dating? I don't see how it's integral to your statement.

[@earlinebeaman684]

It is still going on because ww keep it going. they're the gate keepers. but these bm don't see it that say. good luck to you sis.

[@leonwoods4052]

You will continue to experience racism until you die.It's unfortunate that individuals from the dominant society have a sickness of mind,and hart.The question to is, how has interracial dating changed your life?

[@BC99]

Very informative, thanks.

[@saeedm3005]

Wow! What an excellent interview.

[@CynthiePompey9999]

Over 26 years in nursing as a ne-gro Indian, im documented as American Indian, Indigenous. Im age 62, I couldn't sit at Newberry 5 and Dime store lunch counter as a teenager. We see no hope.

[@jakelong6860]

Ron DeSantis said this will not be tought in Florida. Project 2025 says never.