Delta Force/Benghazi Bombshell Coming: 'Way Off'

[@davidhooksteadinterviews]

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[@tomlennon2204]

Love what your doing as well David

[@tupacsgohst]

you should interview chuck Holton army ranger/war correspondent as he said that the rumors in the spec opps community was that chris stevens used his diplomatic immunity for something that was pretty terrible and indefensible and that he was lured to that location under the guise of a deal for something he wanted that left him vulnerable. i've only heard that from Holton but he's pretty tapped into that world and he would not say that for nothing.

[@PetesGuide]

You’re popping into the mic. Back off a bit or add a pop filter in front of the windscreen.

[@MrKalo22]

These Tier 1 operator dramas start looking like the real housewives of the military instead of being known as the quiet professionals

[@richardwagner4047]

The only “tier 1” drama I’m aware of is with Rob O’Neil . The rest of it is Tier 2 Seals & Green Berets.

[@louc.87]

def alot of unnecessary drama going on these days.. perhaps hookstead needs to understand that and start filtering the stories he wants to tell. Getting a little old.. I barely watch anymore.

[@BoJackHorseman_eatshay]

Are you joking? The antihero podcast is ground zero for uneducated children with guns. Brent is a child. There’s a reason these losers are in the service

[@chilloutdude3617]

Looks like a lot of jealousy to me...

[@stephenwilliams4531]

@@richardwagner4047that not true lots of people from delta devgru have done a lot more fucked up shit than lie about who shot who first the dude who actually shot him has never come forward and I’m not defending rob it just pails in comparison to what blue squadron where doing to their wives and choice of weaponry on target and also the Defo operator killing a green beret in his own home over a drug debt.

[@Yoshimurha]

I mean it would be interesting to hear why they did not participate in the firefight of defending the annex and why they dumped the body from the roof down to the ground. Tanto was recently on Shawn Ryan Show and he welcomed the Delta guys to come forward and give their side of the story.

[@_good_for.]

Because nobody will tell us

[@arighteousname5882]

I think the notion that they didn't "participate" in the "firefight" in first place is up for debate from what I gather. Depending on what their actual mission was, which isnt declassified at this point maybe they weren't obligated or allowed to do anything but. Also from my understanding it was those two Delta operators who were responsible for getting to the hospital and bringing the ambassadors body back.

[@YouthfulPorpoise]

Both the book and the movie depicted them arriving after the firefights so they did all they could. They got people off the roof, later recovered the ambassador's body and (don't quote me on this, don't remember exactly) got the mortar team in the sheep field.

[@t.mitchellb2766]

Sad that I have to spell this out, but here goes. The one talking is never the one you trust in these situations. Throwing shade and drama gets "The Squeaky Wheel" recognition, money, etc. Note which guy just happened to have a new book to push. How serendipitous for him! I never heard a peep from the others personally. Meanwhile, these fanatical people need to stop believing everything they hear, especially vetbros nowadays. Service members shit behind two shoe heels just like you.

[@2QuartersKorean]

I don't think they were at the compound in the beginning of the fight, showed up with the convoy, they had a job to do and did it

[@nycshelbygt500]

The Benghazi Committee has a tick tock of events that night. The Tripoli Team didn't arrive at the Annex until 5am. They were stuck at the airport for 3 hrs. So there was little time for the D-Boys to do anything in defending the Annex from attack. The Amb body was at the hospital, so if they recovered it, great. That doesn't invalidate the story of the GRS Team that were there all night fighting to protect the 36 Americans.

[@gonzob9609]

This!

[@luddite4change449]

The two Delta members were awarded the Distinguished Service Cross and the Navy Cross respectively. I've read the public citations, but those events don't really show up at all in the movie. In sure that the reveal will better fill in some of the blanks. Hard to believe it was a dozen years ago.

[@nycshelbygt500]

@luddite4change449 The D-Boys received the awards because they recovered the Amb body, probably not because they fought their way to and from the hospital. And not because they fought to save the Annex. The pols wanted to through awards around to keep everyone happy and quiet. Also consider that a Tier 1 Unit was mobilized from CONUS, but only got as far as Sigonella. The D-boys probably thought WTH, nobody is coming.

[@gwat34]

​@nycshelbygt500 well if they recovered the body then they would have had to make it to the hospital, no?

[@jimpowell2296]

There you go. The one GRS person who said they did weren’t there is correct. It appears these guys got medals for retrieving the ambassador’s body. Ok. What is the controversy.

[@pistolpete503]

Tanto on the Shawn Ryan Show was a great episode. He also said he understood that they were being mortared and doesn’t hold any contempt for how they handled the bodies now looking back at it

[@waynemalford3020]

"he was there" isn't really compelling when the guy you're shitting on "was there" also...

[@jumpingthestring]

Exactly what I was thinking.

[@austinwalker4898]

Did most of my career at Bragg and had the honor of having a couple of good friends that worked over on the compound. Now this may shock everyone who eats up everything David and the Antihero podcast put out, but Delta guys lie too. And you will never meet a group of people that have more to say about any vet that ends up in the public spotlight. It’s every bit as drama filled as everywhere else in the military. Incredible warriors, incredible capabilities, not necessarily incredible people.

[@bohica6378]

Maybe get the D boys, Tanto n Oz together and let the truth be free.

[@slightlyseen6767]

Tanto and Oz don't really get along, that's coming from Tanto's mouth on the SRS podcast.

[@_good_for.]

​@@slightlyseen6767 there is absolutely no way the chief is ever gonna get out because boys in Langley don't want it out 😢

[@frankmoniz1595]

Exactly! I believe Tanto, but of course be willing to listen to theD boyz. I’m thinking they can add but not change.

[@Dee-nonamnamrson8718]

​@@slightlyseen6767 They don't get along, but they respect each other and can work together.

[@matty2timez708]

Let me add some anger to the story. So, there was a contract "let" to "harden" the Consulate in Benghazi. With this hardening would include perimeter improvements, various other things, but more importantly a "safe haven" was to be constructed. This safe haven has special ways of protecting the "inhabitants". Can't go into specifics. If this work was done the Ambo would probably be alive today...Work like this comes out of OBO (Over Seas Building Operations) which is a Department of State group that builds, renovates and modifies US Embassies, Consulate and US Missions. It is generally autonomous from "Main State" and has its own Director. This contract was awarded by OBO and before it was given NTP (Notice to Proceed) it was cancelled. Cancelled by "Government Convenience" as the term goes. No fault to the contractor. Kicker. The contract was not cancelled by OBO it was cancelled by Main State or "others" which means the contract was not what it seems...again, got to be careful here... Who was running the DoS at the time....Clinton....I know the thread will either call me a liar or prove it. But I can't. All I can tell you is that I have been in this business for over 20 years and may or may not have been working for a company that had the contract...Just know it goes deeper than just the shooting. This whole thing could have turned out differently...if the company was aloud to start and finish the job in hardening the site. I can tell you this was not the first time it happened to a company in similar circumstances...No deaths, but contracts canceled out of the blue and then to find out weird circumstances...

[@Ripper13F1V]

Agree, all roads point to either Clinton or her vices. The CIF team was initially assigned to the protection detail before this all transpired. Once AMBO's arrival was immenent, they were re-routed to a training event. They didn't decide this, SoS did, or again her vices. Just doesn't make sense, or rather, it does in a way. When the "Bob" of the annex facility sat there and listened to the radio traffic and calls for help it was thought that he received an order to do nothing. That may be just a lack of training/experience/character thing or it could be true that he was given an order. And if he was given an order it would certainly seem that SoS and vices are either inept or were nefariously plotting to get rid of the AMBO. I for one just want to know the truth no matter what. And I think a lot of people do. We're big boys and girls we don't need things dumbed down for us.

[@KTzu213]

Obama did it. Not Killary. IT is known that Obummer hated the Ambo. He set up the Ambo for failure. If you watch Killary's face during the hearing, she looks really surprised when they requested more military support and she supposedly denied it.

[@rojoloco3911]

Well, who knows you could be lying about everything but it sounds about right. It sounds very accurate. And Clinton is a horrible, horrible human being. I have zero doubt that she is a man reason for all this. I’ll be honest I cannot even watch this whole video. I’m so sick of all this crap. People lying ,people are being accused of lying….? It’s all so exhausting,this guy did this,this guy really didn’t do this. This guy claimed to do this, but didn’t this guy cannot remember. I mean, Jesus Christ I can’t remember what the fuck I did yesterday. I can’t imagine the level of adrenaline and fear no matter how seasoned these guys are who knows. Maybe it all wouldn’t have been as bad if these locations were more built up. Like you say.

[@Mr.W32]

Thanks for the context here.

[@gwat34]

Are you saying it's not the first time contracts were canceled and shortly after an incident happened at that site too?

[@darj777]

I think Sarah Adams, targeter, said the plan was for the 200 or so aggressors were to kidnap Stevens to get more prisoners released...she also said "bob" told the team that Feb 19 was the QRF and that they were on their way even though he knew they weren't going because some of their guys were apart of the attack. The team then disobeyed him when they said they were going to die over the radio ...I know that's a different part of the story than the delta guys coming in but thought it would be worth sharing

[@richardkentaft4020]

Why has no one ever acknowledged that there was a Platoon of FAST Marines in Tripoli that day too????

[@FNGPREPPER]

As a former MSG, I was told the Marines in Tripoli was not sent for fear of further casualties. Wtf

[@oleboy7615]

CIA

[@stephenwilliams4531]

Mike glover was on a cif team in Croatia or Italy they spun up several times and where denied permission to qrf them. They didn’t want anyone to survive because it was so embarrassing.

[@nycshelbygt500]

FAST Team was in Rota Spain. They only made it to Tripoli later that day.

[@armyco2]

Tier One operators leaving a safe environment (Tripoli) to go to dangerous environment (Benghazi) to do their job, is not heroic - it is what is expected of individual performing that role. It is absurd to push for upgrading any medals they received to the CMH, without knowing what they did! More facts, less speculation!

[@brandondague]

Well two things. Rarely will you have Tier 1 operators receive medals for heroic actions regardless of what they are unless they die. Once they receive the MOH, they become high profile...and active Tier 1 operators and being high profile does not mix. The second thing is, I am sure there would be a long list of tier 1 operators that qualify for the MOH if it wasn't for the fact that most of the missions they do these actions on are highly classified. Getting a MOH on somewhere we shouldnt be or doing is not a good look. Plus most of these guys are quiet professionals and dont want that medal anyway...means shit went wrong if you get a MOH.

[@adamkane8250]

Here they turned up. If they were ordered or if they were not, they turned up

[@ThunderTaco206]

Since somebody already addressed the Tier One operator awards issue, I'll just say this. There is no such thing as a CMH, or congressional medal of honor. It's just the Medal of Honor. It is awarded in the name of Congress, but the word Congress does not appear in the name of the award.

[@ShawnVetran]

Anybody know about the documentary pepper that he talks about?

[@That1ThatHasIt]

​@@ShawnVetranYeah, it's called 'War Dog: A Soldier's Best Friend'.🤙🏼

[@longtabsigo]

As someone who has written over 100 awards, I am somewhat familiar with the processes. I believe the sticking issue for the M of H is that the award packet must contain to eyewitness statements from Americans. If there were only two people on the ground then you are short one eye witness. This is the issue that came up with those two young marines who stood their ground against the truck born in Iraq; the awards required American eyewitnesses not Iraqi military eye witnesses. I believe the closest example of autonomous acts being recognised where Gary Gordon and Randy Shugart Who were being watched by a drone, thus more than just CW3 Durant’s.

[@Lukas_476]

Very interesting. I bet youve had a cool career!

[@longtabsigo]

@ I never had a bad job; only 2 bad bosses; my desire to serve was defined as “I will quit when I string together 3 days in a row that I did not want to go to work.” All but 2 jobs and 4 years were in SF or SOF Units. I was afforded opportunities to do things that, even my brothers, felt the need to question my integrity; until my son found my 3 ring binder with copies of my awards and evaluations. It took until I was a mid grade LTC with a dysfunctional boss to string 3 days in a row, so I submitted my retirement, got the surgical repairs I needed for my shoulder and neck. Then, 10 weeks before I was supposed to retire, the CG fired my boss and the XO and I was handed their jobs until all 3 replacements were on board. So, longer story short, I had a freaking blast.

[@arighteousname5882]

If that's the case there was actually footage of those Marines at the gate shooting at that VBIED

[@Spartan-jg4bf]

John Chapman?

[@danielwheeler3726]

@@Spartan-jg4bfyep John Chapman 2 separate MOH worthy acts in the same fight all observed by a UAV.

[@antoniocruz5596]

I know the man who’s name is being bleeped out. He’s an outstanding soldier and like many others in his position, served his country faithfully without hesitation. I haven’t seen or talked to him in years, but I always knew there was way more to the story than what was being told and I’d love to hear his story if and when he’s willing to share it. Quiet professionals are nearly extinct today, and it’s a crying shame.

[@Jamesreece762]

They are all quiet professionals until they retire. Then there’s no need to be quiet anymore

[@pnayeri]

As a turret gunner on the F-14 Tomcat, I hate it when guys like Tim embellish their service and accomplishments !

[@brianking9446]

Really!?..I was a tailgunner on one! Boy talk about a hot seat!

[@jimpowell2296]

Wow! Very few folks have become Turret gunners on the Tomcat. What a stud.

[@TonyBaroni]

David, regarding Benghazi, I recently read a book called "Zero Footprint", by Simon Chase (ghost name of the Tier 1 operator) and Ralph Pezzullo, an alleged true story of a former Tier 1 British operator and Private Military Contractor. It has a good deal of info setting the scene in Benghazi before the 9/11/2012 attack on Stevens. He was there on behalf of some shady people buying weapons from an AQ group and furnishing them to a group in Syria. He also claims he responded to assist Ambassador Stevens and mentions people he encountered there. He also said he went to the CIA compound and helped others, whom he names , there fend off the first attacks on that compound from the roof. It offers a lot of info I haven't read elsewhere. Thanks for your efforts. Good Luck.

[@Nobody_inportant]

What documentary was he referring to when he said that documentary about Pepper?

[@BrownCornelius000]

I think it's called War Dog, an HBO doc. At least that's what I was able to find.

[@That1ThatHasIt]

​@@BrownCornelius000Correct. War Dog: A Soldier's Best Friend. Pretty solid doc

[@RainMan221]

The FNG Academy has reacted to the movie, those CAG guys weren’t there for rescue effort. They were there for Sensitive Document destruction. Buck told that those guys are assigned specifically for that task, if needed they might come for rescue assistance but it wasn’t their primary objective at the moment.

[@pnbnationsbest1]

As a guy who watched on IRL, 13 hours is about as accurate as a movie is going to be.

[@scott4499]

The movie showed almost everything that the book covered.

[@slightlyseen6767]

Brent said on the Antihero podcast a few months ago and i don't remember the topic or how it was brought up,but he did say one of the guys that was there was on the podcast before.

[@songen1042]

It was Tate Jolly; ep. 64 fall of Afghanistan.

[@arighteousname5882]

​@@Gogogadget1234nope

[@slightlyseen6767]

@@songen1042 Appreciate that.

[@SuperPropel]

what's the documentary referenced at 7:20?

[@Scott_Buchanan]

I think it’s called “war dogs”, it’s a doc about the k9’s that they used

[@SuperPropel]

@@Scott_Buchanan Thank you

[@Scott_Buchanan]

@@SuperPropel you’re welcome 🫡

[@johnoliver8833]

Hopefully killary clinton gets more exposed

[@claytonbruner1808]

Let's not forget that the Uranium one deal, in which Hillary helped broker the sale of US Uranium to Russia, was completed in 2013. Christopher Stevens, the ambassador that was killed in Libya in September 2012 was sent there by Hillary from his position as director of the office of multilateral nuclear affairs. I'd like to know what his position was on the Uranium one deal as the office is involved in decisions regarding "strategic assets", Uranium being just that.

[@claytonbruner1808]

And I am very happy to be alive and not suicidal at all!

[@quentinpugh1969]

How much uranium changed hands​@claytonbruner1808

[@johnoliver8833]

@claytonbruner1808 i think thats how they ended up with so many cool jets with all the titanium russia has

[@VintageTeak]

She's still living rent free in your head

[@Walk-retirement-travel]

You keep referring to the two guys but you’re not going to name them but you know the names. Obviously there names aren’t a secret anymore so stop with the cloak and dagger stuff

[@AnnetteMick-x2s]

They are probably not allowed to talk about it yet

[@carmelotansengco4605]

Several things can be happening all at the same time and no one can be in two places at the same time. From what I understand, the movie was based on the point of view of three of the operators who were there. All three were on the roof defending the compound. They didn't see when Ambassador Stevens' body was taken out of the rubble. They mentioned that they just found out he was at the hospital.

[@chilloutdude3617]

Exactly. These dudes are BIG jealous cause they weren't in the spotlight.

[@carmelotansengco4605]

@@chilloutdude3617 It's so sad that envy and jealousy are a big thing with those guys. I thought they were supposed to be on the same team.

[@Jamesreece762]

The two Delta guys are the opposite of a secret. There’s dozens of public releases of their awards from Benghazi. MSgt Dave Halbruner and GySgt Tate Jolly

[@Soonerfrk11]

Wasn’t Tate a Marine at one point?

[@idrathergetaidsthangetwoke9145]

Thanks. I thought I had read hat before. This channel's proprietor is a weird guy. I'm new so I don't know his background. He just seems to be a grade a Army SF simp fanboi. Shit, even Julian Dorey doesn't go this hard on his knees.

[@27dforce]

I'm not sure why they're making this to be a secret. The names

[@purplecow5150]

@@idrathergetaidsthangetwoke9145 then don't watch

[@myfinaloption]

​@@27dforcesensationalism

[@paulwhittington8933]

So AHPod gets pissed because "someone that was there" does not like there story; and so then they say their story was from "someone that was there" and because of that they do not say care what Boone [sic] says? Fucking child logic.

[@chilloutdude3617]

Beyond petty and very jealous behavior for such tough guy "professionals". Big muscles and weak egos.

[@chriskoch7794]

Were they there when the call came out to respond when the people at the Ambassador's place called out that they'd die without help? Were they there when the team decided to go, against orders? Were they are part of the team that moved to the Ambassadors location? That AMAZING that they showed up to help. That's 1000% more than anyone else did.

[@bubbaballer88]

No, they didn’t arrive until I think midnight in Benghazi, but didn’t get to the annex until 5am.

[@AnnetteMick-x2s]

The GRS guys are the one's who saved everyone, not the 2 Delta's

[@maxknuckles13]

Anti-hero sound like a group of guys bitter they didn't get more recognition for their service. It comes across as pretty sad

[@CiVilianGroup]

Only 1 guy who was a service member. Maybe just maybe they’re tired of the lies and ppl held up who will lie and make certain ppl look good while real hero’s stay quiet. You may like the lies but those lies will eventually get young men killed.

[@scavl14]

@@CiVilianGroup Actually, Brent was Delta and Tyler was an active duty soldier as well.

[@Lee-xn8by]

I agree!

[@anonymoustoo4945]

sooo basically the CIA left an American ambassador to die …. then left him behind not knowing he was dead … and it took two Deltas to go recover him?!?! they def deserve recognition even if they dont want it

[@razorprime]

The CIA went to protect the people they were paid to protect. The DSS left the ambo because protecting him was their job. Delta's job is everyone!!!!!

[@liftshootblaze42069]

The truth has always mattered. Nobody was putting in work debunking falsehoods like they are now. Especially the most notorious of them. If there’s more to the story, I want to hear it.

[@jasonrad9332]

Looking forward to the Anti-Hero podcast version.

[@mikmat1427]

According to Tanto both operators did nothing. However, Tate Jolly was awarded a navy cross and David Halbrunner was awarded a Distinguished service cross. Both of which aren’t handed out easily. Congress authorized the president to award the Medal of Honor to Halbruner but he never received it.

[@Jamesreece762]

He didn’t explicitly say they didn’t nothing. He didn’t see them in much direct action. They were doing other tasks. Tonto just didn’t witness what they did. He was preoccupied with a lot of other pressing matters…..

[@rickeyrincones1769]

Seems like all these stories that were made into movies are starting to be proven exaggerated or some major details left out for whatever reason

[@rickeyrincones1769]

​@DocAllen424 yeah I can see that being true... fighting to survive in that situation I'm sure you don't see everything else going on around you

[@slightlyseen6767]

​@@Jamesreece762"Pressing matters"is putting it mildly.lol

[@shidditiddis]

@@rickeyrincones1769 that’s certainly true of pretty much every other military movie, but the Benghazi movie is generally lauded as extremely accurate, confirmed by Tanto himself. They can’t get every single detail right, it’s just not possible. But it’s* 51% on Rotten Tomatoes goes to show that people don’t want truth, they want fantastic and overblown. I think it’s the best GWOT movie since Black Hawk Down. I wrote this before I watched the whole video. I’ve seen that movie probably a dozen times. At no point did it occur to me that the Delta boys were being portrayed as doing nothing. To the contrary, there is a little blip that shows they had very specific tasks they were sent to accomplish, namely sensitive document destruction.

[@morimo11]

I certainly don’t mean to say I’ve experienced anything as tense as Benghazi, but as a police officer I can easily see how they can have completely different versions of the events. It’s not uncommon in my field but the difference is we are usually all together trying to gather facts and determine what actually happened by talking with each other. If you have 10 perspectives you can reasonably say you have a good idea of what actually occurred. Thess guys have never communicated directly. It’s entirely possibly they never saw the Delta guys. I just don’t see a motive for lying. Then all these years later we are hearing the story is incomplete. Someone needs to put Tonto and Oz in a room with these Delta guys and figure out who was where and doing what. If I’m working a problem and call for backup and you respond but go to a part of the perimeter I can’t see I may or may not know what you’re doing specifically. I may make assumptions based on how the call unfolds but until we debrief with each other we don’t know the totality of circumstances

[@cincomxntana3938]

In the movie Delta was only there to destroy sensitive documents lol I could imagine Delta operators wouldn’t be happy with that

[@jorgecantera7161]

The movie doesn't cover how they recover the ambassador's body.... It doesn't invalidate the battle that occurred at the CIA compound.

[@yvngcharlz]

Love all the uploads lately, keep them coming man!

[@richardwagner4047]

What was the documentary about “Pepper” called? I’d like to see it.

[@That1ThatHasIt]

War Dog: A Soldier's Best Friend

[@NILGRU]

Hookstead is really starting to come off like a Delta fanboi. The AHP dudes are veering down a weird path, as well. Hopefully they don’t become so drunk on ‘exposing’ and shitting on everything that they start cooking things up to shit on. That’s a bad look and usually leads to horrifically biased opinions-stated-as-fact.

[@dgwigg]

All I can find regarding the delta operators.on the web, refers to them helping David Ubbens off the roof & helping others find safety. One article even said they carried the two dead GRS members bodies down from the roof. I see a big problem brewing here. These guys better have more to offer than what their award ceremony write up cited. Not throwing any shade on what they did, at all, but the articles seem to be ignoring the actions of the GRS & State guys.The one guy refers to Goon? Get the name right. A lot of medals & promotions went out following 9-11-11 to try to polish things up. The guys that have already spoken on record, through interviews, & the book & movie all have said the same story for the last 12 years. I've not heard any deviation or exaggeration from their original account of the event Bring in Sarah Adams to hear her account Like I said, look forward to hearing more.

[@razorprime]

Truth is they didnt do much , they got the body of ambo , but they came after the firefight was already over .

[@RobC-j3g]

You have zero clue how UW works Fanbro. Delta never goes anywhere and does “nothing” you guys will all see when it airs.

[@razorprime]

@RobC-j3g what's UW? please

[@scott4499]

​@@razorprimeunconditional warfare

[@blackheartsmarine0351]

You know this how?

[@razorprime]

@blackheartsmarine0351 on account of the GRS guys who did the actual firefight. No disrespect to delta

[@charlieghague]

I know there's 2 sides to every story, but the GRS guys seem pretty freaking pissed off about it. Tanto's interview on SRS made it very clear he's not happy with the delta guys. Maybe there's a huge miscommunication on what they were doing during the attacks, but I don't feel like their anger is unfounded.

[@71Quackhead]

I’m on the side of Tanto. Period. End of story. Everyone here needs to go listen to all 3 Sarah Adams episodes on the SRS. Those guys never participated in the firefight. They spent 4 1/2 hours at the airport and finally showed up at the end.

[@mattwilhelm4477]

So if you go on antihero your side must automatically be the truth...

[@travisharman8366]

2 problems here dude. One. You’re listening to the antihero podcast. 2. Of course delta is going to say some stuff different, they were way late to the fiasco and when they did show up it was over!

[@blackheartsmarine0351]

You know this how?

[@TheRednose3269]

@davidhooksteadinterviews didn't you interview Bob Poras? Isn't he both ex Delta and ex CIA contractor? Did you guys talk about it at all. Don't feel like going back to watch the interview again but was just curios. Also has anyone ever talked to Jack Silva or if that is not his real name the person the character was based on?

[@msh441]

Comparing the movie to secondhand Delta accounts seems a little trivial, when the differences between the Hollywood action flick, and the Mitchell Zuckoff book are well known.

[@staymadloser7754]

I don’t think there’s a genre in 2025 that doesn’t have drama right now

[@1600Patriota]

What documentary does he mention?

[@andrethestrategist5313]

So is the argument being made that the CIA contractors story is false? Did they not go to assist or defend the Annex? It is all very cryptic and ambiguous. They all did receive medals as well? So what is the story?

[@AGfrom83]

What was the documentary that Dave said was good? About pepper it sounded like he said.

[@jimpowell2296]

It’s a little weird. A tier 1 operator is sitting in the movie 13 hours with his wife. The movie is about the what happened in Benghazi. And lo and behold two of his friends are also watching the movie. Those two disagree with what was in the movie. Sounds like a soap,opera doesn’t it. Anyway there is disagreement on what some of the people who were there had to say that others disagree with. My take on this where Americans were defending this Special Mission in Benghazi is the some people who were there completely disagree with the Delta operators. So there you go. More than enough dirt to go around. What time did these two Delta operators get to Benghazi, just curious.

[@Jamesreece762]

The ISR overhead will show the D Boys were not on the rooftops shooting it out alongside GRS. They were inside breaking computers and shredding paper

[@daggaboom]

“I want you to read into this as much as you want to” pretty much all American media no matter where in the spectrum it is.

[@0xFomo]

Any one have the name of the doc “about Pepper” mentioned?

[@timtoland353]

Always with, "I know the guys, but I am not going to say the names." You're so cool fanboy Dave.

[@mickpratt8327]

Nobodys mad because you say theres a different story than whats been told. People get mad when you dont tell that other story and bring receipts. When there is a generally accepted truth, its up to the people refuting that truth to dispel it with reciepts. So until the Delta Force comes forward with that they will have to live with whats been established.

[@MrD1981]

It was all on ISR ffs these clowns on Brent’s podcast him been the biggest clown on it wants to slag everybody who was ever involved in anything high level because he wasn’t Benghazi was a shit show but got handled by some fucking hellish warriors

[@chriskoch7794]

And, just might there been legal reasons why so.e of their actions, heroic as they were, left out because the government wouldn't allow ot, that's a possibility.

[@cdmobley1]

If I was on the rooftop of one building and someone else was on the other side, we both would have different stories to tell. I'm not saying that anyone is lying, just the perspectives are different. Both of those Delta guys were still in at the time of the book and movie. They couldn't say anything about what happened. If they could have them I'm sure both the book and movie would have shown that.

[@letsssgooo4618]

The government lets these guys get away with this stuff tho. Like Rob O’niell. They should have said he was full of shit from the start. Same with Luttrell but I think the government might of actually pressured him into his new story. Instead of his story during his first live interview where he said he dropped his gun and froze.

[@trumanhw]

it's ridiculous to expect complete agreement between people just bc they experienced the same event. Even if they were next to each other (eg on the same roof), they could have differences of opinions as to both what did happened and what should've happened. The "truth" means both that someone believes that what they're telling you is accurate & complete, but people also assume that "the truth" will be as exact a recollection as if it were narrating a video. And, if I'm not mistaken, the Delta-duo showed up only for the last firefight after 5am. Which was yes, the worst per all accounts - but they weren't even present the prior events. I'm curious to know their exact disagreements. But wouldn't be surprised (if unlike _Survivor)_ the details they take umbrage with don't materially change events or opinions of most.

[@stretchr11]

Bout time! Thank you!

[@daveboon5992]

There was a Brit there before during and after ! Wrote a book which was banned and removed 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

[@Dannyduzit77]

Guarantee those unit guys had specific orders and did exactly as they were told.

[@brettrobertson2744]

Exactly - and those orders were to recover the ambassadors body

[@ericolmos7816]

I would have a hard time believing anyone from Delta was there and they didnt want to get in the fight! Imagine having someone like Shrek, or Kyle lamb, or Bob, or Tom Satterly or anyone from Delta and them being to afraid to engage?? Good luck getting anyone who knows anything about Delta and getting them to believe that!!

[@bbasiaga]

more likely that they were ordered NOT to get involved. Could be good or nefarious reasons for that.

[@AnnetteMick-x2s]

They were ordered to destroy classified documents. They have plausible deniability

[@chriskoch7794]

They were heroic for sure, more heroic than me. They can get these awards bc they are a part of the US military, not contractors.

[@jonathansonnier3078]

Unfortunately the bad thing about movies about real events things are often changed for Hollywood purposes like if a director may think something won’t work for his movie they change it and that is extremely unfortunate especially for movies about these traumatic and incredible events Even Peter berg admits in an interview if you watch the special features on the lone survivor he says the movie is not. Exactly as it happened son things had to be changed for theatrical purposes who’s sucks

[@mikelee7876]

Glen and Ty were former seals. What u talking about delta ?

[@Kevin_P_H]

Delta was there as well as “ support “ but never came to help!?!?

[@Kevin_P_H]

Listen to Shawn Ryan show with tonto ranger

[@zachariah85]

That’s correct. And David Halbruner and Tate Jolly were Delta. They were also there.

[@Jason_NSS]

I never watched 13 hours only because I was so sick of Michael Bay movies, knowing they were all over the top explosions and action. He’s not the director to film an important event that went down like this. I could be wrong, but I’ve not seen it. I’d love to know what actually happened with the Delta guys and how their heroism helped.

[@JohnMilonJohnson]

It's a must watch dude. Honestly. Well worth it

[@JohnMilonJohnson]

Far from some silly over the top action movie

[@joejohnson6210]

So what did delta do while there?

[@Leec_1972]

The question that needs to be answered first is why were they sent there? Sending two guys to help a team under fire from all the way from where they were seems a bit underwhelming. Sending two guys to make sure that sensitive data does not become public knowledge seems more plausible. I don't think the D Boys reluctance to come forth is due to bashfulness, they probably don't want or cannot put themselves into the position where they have to tell stupid easily debunked lies to cover why they were really there and stir up even more unwanted drama.

[@0311hitter]

The CMH? We don't even know what they were doing or did while they were there. Why are they being hyped up so much with no actual knowledge?

[@stephenlee837]

The book Relentless Strike gives a good account of this…

[@ryanward8025]

Keep up the great work!

[@markcain2418]

The movie, unfortunately, had nothing to do with getting Stevens back. Nothing. From what I gathered by other conversations, the book and the movie were obviously different. A lot of things were deleted due to time. Benghazi definitely needs more attention.

[@donfullbright8468]

Thanks

[@Jamesreece762]

Delta is the new DEVGRU, or as David would say, the former name of a new unit which is classified so he can’t same the name…..TACDEVRON

[@Beefry222]

13:39 "They went from Tripoli, where they were safe as could be..." Dude that's the job. Don't frame it like they were retired back on the farm and some guy in dress blues comes up and says "We need you for one last operation boys..." You're comparing these Delta guys to MacGruber. It's silly. Why should any of these dudes have to answer to anything? Truth isn't going to come out, just speculation, muck-racking, and a ton of he-said-she-said. TMZ was bad enough, this GWOT Operator Gossip stuff is much more gross and pointless.

[@mixc5967]

Clickbait bro.....what a 16:02 talkin' shit about other military guys! It doesn't seem cool....Addressing true 'stolen valor" is important because it's despicable and should always be called out! But this is friggin' ridiculous, brother! Why didn't these Cag Dudes refute this shit in 2012 when it happened? We're now hearing about it 13 years later? Yeah, right.....I guess y'all need more views for the youtibe algorithm!

[@robertjolley8715]

Not sure why you aren't naming the Delta Operators. The names are out. Delete if you think necessary. Benghazi Evacuation During the 2012 Benghazi attack, two Delta Force operators along with five CIA personnel accompanied Glen Doherty to aid the besieged Benghazi Embassy compound, after commandeering a small jet in Tripoli by paying the pilots $30,000 and forcing them to fly the team to Benghazi. After fierce fighting, the rescue team including the two Delta operators assisted in evacuating the surviving diplomatic staff to the main Embassy in Tripoli. For their courage and bravery, one of the Delta operators, Master Sergeant David R. Halbruner, was awarded the Distinguished Service Cross, while the other, Marine Gunnery Sergeant Tate Jolly, who had passed Delta selection, was awarded the Navy Cross. While confusion was still reigning and with the possibility that the US ambassador had been seized by militants, a Delta squadron was forward deployed from Afghanistan to conduct a possible rescue, ultimately it was not required. At the time of the attack, small teams from CIA SAD and JSOC were both conducting operations in Libya - most probably advance work on the later 'snatch' missions conducted by Delta Force.[65][66] en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_operations_conducted_by_Delta_Force#:~:text=Benghazi%20Evacuation,-During%20the%202012&text=For%20their%20courage%20and%20bravery,was%20awarded%20the%20Navy%20Cross.

[@Jamesreece762]

The two CAG guys recovered the Ambassador’s body as much as Rob O’Neill shot Bin Laden.

[@letsssgooo4618]

What’s the story with the ranger commander and Jessica lynch?

[@Jamesreece762]

They embellished what happened before her kidnapping. They made it seem like she was a hero. She got lost and wrecked a truck.

[@gordonkocher5872]

Delta guys were late … its an hr drive… they took 6

[@scguy7442]

You are either a troll or an idiot… it’s not a one hour drive from Tripoli to Benghazi….

[@bubbaballer88]

Interesting how these guys are “debunking” all of these stories years after they happen. Seems like they’re a bunch of clout chasing clowns. It’s only the big stories and names in the SOF veteran community they go after..wonder why. The Unit guys there that night didn’t participate in the firefight and threw Rone’s body off the roof of a building. Tanto said recently that he is interested to know why they didn’t come up and help (even to replace them shortly for breaks).

[@sullyisburned04]

Seems like it’s all pretty moot really. If the two operators who were “there” aren’t talking, and the guys who “know a guy who was there” are, then it’s best to defer to the 4 surviving GRS members we know for a fact WERE there right? It’s all pretty immaterial to the story. If these guys want everyone to know what their role was in it, they need to speak up. They could have been doing all kinds of things around Benghazi from 5am until extraction that GRS didn’t know about, but if you want it to get out so bad then say what those things were. Otherwise who gives a shit.

[@gordonkocher5872]

Delta guys hid in the annex

[@NOGIMXCHAEL]

Nah man, delta was pretty damn useless. How many Americans did they save during the attack? Idc about whether or not they went to bargain over a deadman’s body. I care about who was saved and whom gave their life to save other Americans in the process. Delta needs to get on a podcast and tell their side.

[@DoWork316]

Tiegs and others made the professional mistake to ever mention how the two men’s bodies were recovered and evac’d. The family never needed to know how things are done. Remember, the buildings there are not to code as we know them. That much weight on a 3rd world exterior ladder is not like here, They will fail. The second part is not as easy. When under fire and breaking contact you may be required to do things that are not pleasant. Time is life to those still fighting. Again, the families never needed to know this detail. Ask Tonto about getting fired from BW for leaving his blaster at a venue…… twice.

[@RobC-j3g]

Overall I can see a lot of Fanbros super upset they were lied to yet again by their heroes. Guys and girls that dont know how UW works won’t understand, the Tanto lovers, he did good things that night but then made a huge mistake by lying for 12 years. He’s made alot of money over the last 12 years peddling his “D boy” lie. It’s not what happened and you all will see, I tend to believe in guys who weren’t paid 800$ a day to do their job and risked everything to get Americans outta that Annex. And then received the nations second highest Valor award.

[@brentj5616]

Facebook would disagree with finding the truth

[@shannonmcstormy5021]

Everything I read about Ambassador Stevens strongly suggests that the reason he had less-than-stellar security around him may have been due to him. I know there are lots of folks that watch this channel that are likely Obama and Clinton haters. But what if most of that debacle was due to Steven's efforts to present a friendlier, more diplomatic mission? What if Obama and Clinton saw Steven's genuine enthusiasm and acquiesced to lesser security? I know this doesn't fit the hater's narrative, but I am interested if any new information supports this theory. Everyone on the ground there were heroes, but fault may not be what we have been told.

[@_good_for.]

Ik what you are saying but and that's a big but brother , I'm not even American, nobody messes with a american citizen anywhere I the world you have a reputation, to let the debacle happen is a slap to every citizen, so think about it

[@Grayman.Project]

The problem with any of this, about what truth is. There is only objective truth and none of that is going to be accurately relayed. It’s all person perspective and opinion. Opinion from delta, opinion of GRS and perspective in combat. I’d love to hear what they say, but it needs to be framed as their opinion not the “truth” so to speak. I’m a fan of hearing all sides and looking forward to hearing what these guys have to say.

[@CritCareJunkie]

You ALWAYS do this thing where you say “I know who these guys are, but I’m not going to tell you…” either keep it to yourself or say the damn names. Also, why are you censoring the names being mentioned by the Delta operator? I think he would know better if he didn’t think it was okay to say those names. He JUST got through telling you that he thinks it’s silly for people to still be censoring that information…and you censor it anyway! Lmfao.

[@MD69BarrelKilla]

Their names are public. Google it.

[@CritCareJunkie]

@ I know the names are public. My point is there is a trend in his videos where he blatantly states that he knows who or what “X” is, “but I’m not going to say.” How about you either say the names or just don’t mention that you know them in the first place. Of course these names are public. The delta operator in his videos openly states the two names without hesitation, but he censors both names. It’s more of an attempt at gatekeeping than it is protecting the persons identity. Hell, why say to the delta operator “I know who these guys are, but I’m not going to say their names” when it’s obvious the delta operator knows the two guys, so why tell that to him? To impress him and show him that you’re “in the know?” It’s all ridiculous and it’s constant trend in these videos.

[@CaptSpence]

Relentless Strike talks about it

[@NankaNemo]

The Truth doesn't matter. Belief matters. You sell to people what they want to here. You will find and trumpet the truth and shortly thereafter it will fall to the cacophony of desired belief.

[@ninertactics]

and that is the problem isnt , most "people dont want truth but sensationalism.

[@letsssgooo4618]

The thing with Delta, couldn’t you say damn near anything they could be Medal of Honor worthy? Lol. But yeah the fact they went there just two dudes is wild. Can’t wait to hear the story. The one delta guy who went to that hotel by himself should get it as well. Crazily enough an SAS guy did the same exact thing. Hotel full of terrorists and they run in alone. Amazing stuff Would be super interesting to hear how they got the body back. I’d usually assume they paid them off but since it was a spur of the moment decision between only the two of them I doubt they were lugging around tons of cash.

[@Jamesreece762]

It wasn’t just two dudes. They went in with a bunch of guys. GRS and local escorts. It wasnt two dudes just Rambo’ing through the streets of Benghazi like singletons…

[@chilloutdude3617]

Group of Vets in spotlight for years. New group of vets emerge calling out those guys NON-stop. But it's mostly hearsay and in this case the other dudes won't come forward to tell their side?? To a regular civilian watching it looks beyond petty and looks like there's a lot of jealousy going around. Quiet "Professionals" huh?

[@MrVideoyoulike]

How can you say the message did not come through when you just talked about it. Reach out and talk to them.

[@scottandrus7343]

How about we start with Killary's "offensive cartoon" bullshit explanation.

[@rhymetimeuk]

I was hoping someone would bring her into this. I heard a LOT of information about this, and it's completely hidden. I hope the truth comes out.

[@2QuartersKorean]

Movies aren't accurate, look at the shitshow lone survivor. I don't know the truth but I understand people complaining about throwing the body down. When we lost a buddy from an IED, the guys that accompanied his body back to the medics, they complained that the medics just tossed his body on the ground. So maybe they shouldn't do that in front of soldiers that just lost their buddy but in the movie , the situation was different. I did bring it up with the CO but doubt anything came of it.

[@PaulMoschini]

What are you talking about. The operators who were involved from beginning to end have talked extensively about what happened in Benghazi .The movie is a movie. And fuck the delta guys, they showed up late, unless they are saying that everyone was cowering in the corner until they arrived. Sorry, but I have no patience for this bullshit drama. Anyway, keep striving for your KZbin clicks. I'm out.

[@dndavis101]

I’m pretty sure Delta is their job class. Medics