Old Steam Powered Machine Shop 61 Horizontal Boring Mill Work

[@tonyrmathis]

As a son of a mechanic who worked 30 years for Cummins and having 40 years of experience myself I confess that I and every good mechanic I know respect and envy guys like you who have the equipment, know how and ethic to do a job right. Mechanics so often are forced to use less than perfect parts that when we do get our hands on stuff you guys supply it's like Christmas. To do a job and wonder if despite your best efforts it may not be up to par is something all good mechanics dread. It steals the joy out of your work. Guys like you give us that joy back. Thank You.

[@SteveSummers]

Thanks David 👍 I always enjoy your videos.

[@robertburns2415]

Amen to that brother!

[@3931100]

I have run a G & L Horizontal Boring mill at the main Ford Rouge Toolroom plant in the 1950's. I graduated from the Ford Toolmaking apprentice program in 1957. I enjoyed watching your video.

[@davidrichards5594]

Great career James, not many left with that kind of experience. One of the guys I know from the Florida Flywheelers club machine shop retired out of a Ford engine plant as a tool maker...Dave

[@mauricelevy9027]

How to make a 38 minute video seem like 5 minutes ! Thanks again David .

[@DeutscheReichsbah100]

The seem problem over here

[@RetroSteamTech]

Thanks Dave, another excellent video. As much as I love seeing the steam powered workshop in action is also very interesting to see some of your other machines earning their keep so please keep these coming. Cheers, Alan.

[@jackheath8184]

i always love a good HBM video. my favorite machine tool. if i had a chatter problem with a long line boring shaft like that. i would try wrapping a thick piece of rubber around the shaft with some hose clamps. probably would cure it 100% by itself but i think it might help a lot. thanks for sharing. i like your channel.

[@joshward7896]

Dave, To get rid of chatter, clamp a couple of C-clamps with V blocks here and there on the boring bar. The loose tightening pin on the clamp will help dampen the vibrations. Love your videos.

[@davidrichards5594]

have to try that...Dave

[@herbhartman7528]

I see a lot of knowledge which comes from experience at work on all your vids!! I’m watching for the third or fourth time I enjoy them so much!! Just found out you ran a auto machine shop next door, now I think I know where the knowledge comes from!! Thanks Dave! I’m recuperating from Covid in ICU at Des Moines VA hospital reenjoying or vids!!

[@davidrichards5594]

Thanks Herb, I'm glad you find the channel interesting. Get well soon......Dave

[@davidfowler332]

Im glad you have saved and maintain these machines . I love the old shit they have a old machine shop setup at denton farm park in north carolina they also had other steam powered machines lots of hit and mis engines and parts great videos buddy keep them coming

[@michaellenz9121]

You had all the bases covered. Steam, Hydraulic, Electric, and compressed air. Thank you so much for taking the time to do your videos. Enjoy them greatly

[@davidrichards5594]

Thanks Mike, glad you took the time to comment....Dave

[@RickRose]

Shows how much goes into such a job: Time, equipment, and shop space. I hope your customers appreciate you. Thanks for sharing.

[@RickRose]

Oh, and a little bit of know-how. That too!

[@michaelriehl7206]

I'm 65 . DeVlieg and Lucas mill operater and set up man here. Good times.

[@davidrichards5594]

Both great machines Mike, I always thought that the Lucas might take a little getting use to because it seems "left handed".....Dave

[@markbrennan8392]

Always enjoy watching your projects David and getting to see your incredible shop. Thank-you my friend leaves me smiling after each episode ;)

[@HWhit9000]

Brings back a lot of memories from my younger days as an old time tool & die maker. I've turned more things on an old South Bend lathe than I can remember.

[@davidrichards5594]

I've been turning things on this one since I was about 8 years old and it sure had a lot of use before my time....Dave

[@jimmeltate2139]

I enjoy all your videos and would like to also see more of your modern shop automotive projects

[@karlhrdylicka]

Hi Dave, Not many weeks away from being a Florida Snowbird again . You guys that can afford it are lucky as the USA is big enough place to be able to do this, find a warmer place for winter not like us poor devils in England that have to endure the cold ,wet, damp winter months until spring time .Get your jobs done ,winterize the shop and head south . Wishing you a safe journey .

[@ronaldmeyn2618]

Thank you David . I am hobby machinist > your knowledge is priceless.

[@WilliamTMusil]

I don't recognize most of what you show, but a set of chevy big block heads, I recognize, lol.

[@wazzazone]

Lovely work! Enjoy every minute of it. Watching the pulleys and machinery turning. Been hooked on machining since watching Adam Booth. Thanks sir.

[@williamkelley7654]

Even the piston is smiling! Thanks Dave!

[@userwl2850]

38 minutes 48 seconds of pure joy. 👏🏻👍

[@PorkBarrel.]

Nice work again Dave thanks

[@larrysperling8801]

we are going to miss you dave. enjoy the sunshine and warm weather, have a great holiday season and get back soon.

[@fjjunker8388]

Very very good work. Thank you.

[@CleaveMountaineering]

My mechanics of solids teacher in engineering school once said, "Engineers aren't boring people, they just get really excited about really boring things." Great project!

[@meduffer]

Gonna be a long winter with your videos. Enjoy the warm weather!

[@sirwillsirwill]

My dad was an industrial machieneist, passed away now, thanks for letting me know what his craft might have looked like! I enjoy your videos.

[@bwood454]

As a fellow machinist I always enjoy your videos. I operate a machine shop where I mainly restore vintage engines. I installed a couple Melling sleeves into a WW2 Chrysler flathead this week and use the same average measurement method as yourself. Enjoy your winter in Florida.

[@chrisabad6666]

Enjoy your shows immensely and thank you for sharing your time, knowledge and experience with us!

[@1000186ful]

That machine is a monster

[@hilltopmachineworks2131]

Good looking G&L mill.

[@jimwilloughby]

I can't believe it's time for you top head south again. Time has flown by this season. Enjoy your time down south, stay well, and all of your viewers will be waiting for your return. I love the way the hand grips on that machine are examples of industrial art. I did notice a couple of them are not there. Perhaps when you return, you could make replicas, and install them on the borer.

[@coleenlofgren6385]

Dave I love your channel !! Have a good winter in Fl . Mark

[@mathankumar6473]

Great video man. Would love to watch more of your modern shop works

[@peterihoy4908]

Have a good Winter Dave ;-)

[@keithnoneya]

What a stark contrast in engine technologies, the hit and miss to the 396. Thanks for sharing David, I really enjoy your videos. Best Wishes & Blessings. Keith Noneya

[@alfreimont1830]

Love your channel and seeing all the old iron being put back in service. Found it a couple of months ago and have just caught up with all the videos. I know your show is about machining but a couple of minutes on how you prep and paint your restoration jobs would probably be interesting to more than a few of us.

[@Wyowanderer]

It's a delight to watch your channel, and the work you do. Thanks for taking time to share your work with us.

[@Toolman22364]

Great video

[@procyonia3654]

Helllllllll yes, HBMs are my all time favorite machine tool

[@procyonia3654]

The 25s were older than WW2 I thought, the 330T had replaced that series by 1935 probably earlier? I'd have to look at some books. I might be misremembering though. I used to work for Giddings and Lewis, and then later a rebuilder/retrofitter that did alot of GL machines.

[@davidrichards5594]

I would like to know how to date mine....Dave

[@procyonia3654]

@@davidrichards5594 you got a serial number? The early revisions of the 25 design had 250rpm on the main spindle, later revisions this would been boosted upto around 400. I believe the auxiliary spindle would have been 1200 rpm and then 1400rpm respectively. Alot of this is foggy memories, I have only come across a couple 25s, most of the older machines I worked on or rebuilt were the 300 series or stuff from later in the timeline. If you have a serial we can cross reference that with a build date though, or atleast get a best guess. Not sure when they started tracking that closely.

[@procyonia3654]

Here we go 1925.....14 1926.....23 1927.....27 1928.....37 1929.....41 1940...115 1941...293 1942...519 1943...621 1944...641 1945...706 1946...714 1947...741 1948...749

[@procyonia3654]

They apparently made them much longer then I had said! That's a serial reference, they didnt keep good records during the Depression and the recovery.

[@CraigLYoung]

Thanks David for another year of education and entertainment. Please be safe on your yearly trip and remember us at Flywheelers.

[@leroyc179]

Never a dull moment with your videos, Thanks David

[@robrobinson6706]

Dave Thanks again for taking the time to film and share. I've been with you on here since the first video and I always look forward to the next vid. Please share a couple from Florida just to keep us all satisfied. Have a great winter.

[@henkvanderwal2424]

After an eventfull week its good to end the work with a nice video. Thank you David for this nice work of art. Greetings from Friesland

[@MrGeroth]

Great video Dave, you make everything look easy. Thanks.

[@zmxl1020]

High Dave! Great job cleaning and painting the boring mill!! Have a safe trip to Florida. Hope to see you in the spring!

[@chrismate2805]

This type of job is always interesting to see, thanks for showing.

[@k4kfh]

Can't thank you enough for letting us see into such an interesting shop from the comfort of our homes. Getting to look over your shoulder has been quite the fun learning experience!

[@robertmiller4545]

Hello again Dave. Once more you have excelled yourself in Engineering know how.,Excellent workmanship as allways.Keep `em coming Dave. Best regards from Uk,,

[@christiankellner4653]

Absolutely enjoyed this one. After In all the years of watching my uncle Dick in his automotive machine shop, it was fascinating to watch a sleeve job on a horizontal boring mill. As a well driller, I see similarities in how I would ream a well. Thought you would be interested in knowing that. Thanks again for a great video!

[@davidrichards5594]

Thanks Christian, there are a lot of ways to do it....Dave

[@kj4unxpondosinatra937]

Another awesome video. I would really like to see more projects from the new shop too. I haven’t ground valve seats since high school in the late 80’s. Great stuff

[@steveshoemaker6347]

The very best 38:48 min on this kind of thing on...KZbin...Thanks very much David...Have a great winter over in Florida...Best wishes...My friend...Once again Thanks from..Kentucky..!

[@hacc220able]

Most Excellent in every respect. Thanks David

[@judgetk8327]

Nice old-line bore you got there buddy.

[@noelspangenburg3675]

Very interesting Dave, great video.

[@davidrichards5594]

I was just thinking about all the BB gun fights we got involved it at the old barn. How did we live to be this old?....Dave

[@noelspangenburg3675]

@@davidrichards5594 It was a miracle that we were able to grow and be "OLD"

[@thoughtnox]

i always indicate stuff like this basing on the crankshaft. Put a bar into the crankshaft bearings, make align this with the way of the machine, then of course shim the foot until the machine is tilted to match the bore with the crank the best way possible.

[@wilkuyf1559]

Thank you for sharing

[@johnleake708]

Thanks for another informative and informational video. Enjoy your winter seance in Florida.

[@freddiebates5539]

I always enjoy watching your videos and I learned a lot even though I'm not a machenist you're never to old gain all the knowledge I can, keep up the good work I know you enjoy and have a great winter.

[@whiplashmachine]

Cool video. I have a 1942 G&L model 25rt HBM that I use all the time. So this was neat to watch another one at work.

[@davidrichards5594]

Those small ones are getting scarce. It's a very versatile machine if you have the tooling...Dave

[@whiplashmachine]

@@davidrichards5594 I'm fairly set up for tooling to do my typical projects. I made my own facemill holders and boring bars and been quite able since. I have the luxury of working for a machine shop with large machines and all the tooling I could ever need. So when I get stuck at home shop I can usually bring my project to work and do what is needed.

[@FinnoUgricMachining]

Thanks David ! I learned something. "Just catching that corner" while measuring the inside diameter. Special thanks for that !

[@byrnejr]

Nice to see you Dave. Thank you for sharing

[@thefixerofbrokenstuff]

Boy howdy, I wish you could just move it all to Missouri. The weather is terrible all the time, so you wouldnt have to snowbird at all.

[@Watchyn_Yarwood]

Excellent work! As always!

[@TheDistur]

Love that intro.😂

[@tomhood8897]

Nice work and great shop, David. Thanks for sharing!

[@183charlesspiva]

Great work. Thanks

[@RRINTHESHOP]

Nice on the Hit & Miss Dave.

[@forbesmathews89]

Great show !! I have a similar job to do. One thing I noticed on the piston turning, was you setting the tool height by going in to the center. Another way is to put a flat strip of metal (I use an old straight edge) between the tool point and the work if the strip is vertical the tool is on center if it leans toward you the tool is low, away from you, the tool is above center. Just some old hand me downs that were given to me years ago.

[@davidrichards5594]

That definitely works too....Dave

[@ogaugeclockwork4407]

Great work Dave!

[@outsidescrewball]

enjoyed....great discussion/demonstration/build....

[@RobertPerrigoOkiechopper]

I been with you since day one of your channel, it's really taken off and congrats . Steam rules.

[@FredCDobbs-mj7hn]

Really interesting and excellent video...enjoy watching you!

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Really great job , as usual . Cheers .

[@GuruBrew]

Really enjoy learning from you. THANKS!

[@rwiliamson8051]

Thanks Dave. Looking foreword to your next video. enjoy FL.

[@MalcOfLincoln]

I can almost guarantee Dave, your set up will be a better job than when it left the factory as new. Another top job 😊

[@MichaelLloyd]

Awesome as always. I really enjoyed seeing the 396 heads. I had a 69 Camaro with the 396 in it. Then I got married and sold the car. Probably would've been cheaper to keep the car :o)

[@wlogue]

Thanks Dave, enjoyed as always!

[@ShevillMathers]

Fantastic, Dave, my favourite workshop-what manual skill to finish so well-up there with the best. Thank you for sharing your shop working and your skills. Tasmania, Southern Cross Observatory 42 South. 👍🛠🇬🇧🇦🇺🔭

[@davidrichards5594]

Good to hear from Tasmania again.....Dave

[@mikeburton7077]

really interesting, and learning something every time ,thanks .

[@bclare2544]

Nice work as usual Dave.

[@user990077]

I watch a lot of KZbin channels and I think you have some of the best intro music out there.

[@davidrichards5594]

Thanks for the encouragement. Some viewers complain about it. I like it....go figure.....Dave

[@billdlv]

Nice work Dave.

[@jimsword1625]

One of your best Dave, see you in Florida

[@jtthill5475]

Welcome back Dave, been missing the steam show. Been about a month and I figured you were in FL already. Great job on the hit-n-miss sleeve. 396 was a favorite of mine, along with the 348/409 series. Thanks for sharing

[@curtisharlan9230]

Morning David

[@jamesmcalarney2991]

thanks for your skill

[@darrenbruno7890]

Nicely done, again..... :)

[@MattysWorkshop]

Gday David, I really enjoy seeing you put your skills to work, I enjoyed every minute, perceiving history at its best, thank you David, the hit and miss will still be running in another 100 years not like all the new engines you get now, please keep the videos coming, I’m always learning something from you every time, thank you again mate, very much appreciated, Matty

[@davidrichards5594]

Thanks for watching Matty...Dave

[@not2fast4u2c]

I like that you left the sleeve a little taller than the surface of the block..That way the head gasket will seal well since the block surface probably is not level / flat any more

[@SiamWoodShop]

Great video Dave, I guess before long Florida will be calling.

[@bigtrev8xl]

Great too watch :)

[@bcbloc02]

Doesn't your HBM have stops under the table you can adjust so it automatically kicks out at depth? I would also suggest rather than chasing after the old bore location why not indicate it so that the bore is perpindicular and centered to the crank? What brand of hone was that? Looked like a nice made one.Sunnen of some model?

[@davidrichards5594]

Hi Brian: Good chance the crank isn't where it should be either if it's been re-poured. My mill doesn't have automatic anything. The hone is a Sunnen AN111, it will get out to 6 1/2" with extensions....Dave

[@ruperthartop7202]

Great content. Thanks for sharing

[@victoryfirst2878]

I have found that when you put either tightly rolled rubber bands or using material used to pour babbit which looks and smells like dog doo or taking rope wound from one end ot the other with masking tape to keep stuff on the surface of the boring bar will stop chatter in its tracks. Also the way you sharpen your tools makes a difference. HSS or HSS Co works better than carbide. Experience really makes the difference with old machinery. Keep on fixing the old engines too.

[@davidrichards5594]

Agreed....Dave

[@victoryfirst2878]

Just trying to help a fellow machinist. Good day fella.

[@terryragan3521]

Great work. Very smart man.

[@roylucas4414]

Interesting video. You make it look so easy. Perhaps your years of experience is showing.

[@bobvines00]

Dave, thank you for another very interesting video! I'm looking forward to your videos from Florida at teh Florida Flywheelers Antique Engine Club. I need to visit their annual Engine & Tractor Swap Meet soon! Also, if you tap the end of the cutting tool hole/socket in your boring bar with something like 40 TPI, and use a 40 TPI set screw or similar behind the tool, you can easily adjust the tool without a dial indicator. Like a mic, you'll get 0.025-inches of tool "travel" per turn of the screw. You could even engrave/mark indications around the screw to more accurately adjust it to less than 0.025-in.

[@63256325N]

Nicely done. About time to be heading south, eh? Thanks for the video.