Daybreak / e-Mission Review | Can a Board Game Save the World?

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@intheorigin0728 11 ай бұрын

As a graduating MA in global environment studies, I have a strong urge to get this game and work with my professors to develop a seminar around it.

@NoPunIncluded 11 ай бұрын

do it!

@estebanrodriguez5409 11 ай бұрын

The worst they can say is "No"

@killaekiron9009 11 ай бұрын

Do it!

@alexanderharms3182 11 ай бұрын

That sounds like a great idea! Go for it!

@Poiuytrew.Q 11 ай бұрын

Do it, do it!

@Lobsterguy47 11 ай бұрын

Always love the deeper takes beyond the board games that your videos provide.

@Momplestiltskin 11 ай бұрын

I absolutely love this channel, including the outside of board game contexts and discussions. It's great how seamlessly you manage to weave in enough about the mechanics, the review itself, and the bigger context.

@lawrencecollins7398 11 ай бұрын

I've played about 7 sessions of Daybreak. Very much enjoy getting it to the table every time.

@goldintouch 10 ай бұрын

Thank you for this review. We picked this up and played at four players today. We embraced the fundamental fiction as you suggested. I can say without hesitation that it was one of, if not the, greatest co-op game experience our group has ever had. Each decision felt consequential and tight, we had to really communicate to create synergies, and we found ourselves saying things like “we have to go all in on getting rid of this industry... Even if that puts some communities at risk.” Not typical table talk. We think this game is a masterpiece. Thank you for brining it to our attention.

@BenGreen1980 11 ай бұрын

This is the only video review channel that regularly feels like your on the same level as Space Biff's written reviews. You two are absolutely brilliant and I appreciate you. Also this game looks excellent and very needed.

@LeTrèsVilain 11 ай бұрын

My two favorites, right there.

@phk975 11 ай бұрын

I enjoy this game a lot on BGA and IRL. My primary criticism involves the consistency of the difficulty. It tends towards the easier side, but once you're familiar with the mechanics, half the games feel swingy, almost on rails towards certain victory/defeat. Not an inherent design flaw by any means, but crunchier gamers should be aware.

@NoPunIncluded 11 ай бұрын

I think you're right that it can be a little swingy, but also, co-ops generally are. Kinda inherent to the genre.

@EgeTunca 11 ай бұрын

Did not know it was on BGA thanks for the info 🎉

@Quitchy 11 ай бұрын

The QR code thing is something I haven't seen before, yet it makes so much sense I'm stunned I haven't.

@afaulconbridge 11 ай бұрын

Reminds me of the Wingsong app for Wingspan that plays the calls of the birds on the cards.

@afaulconbridge 11 ай бұрын

Reminds me of the Wingsong app for Wingspan that plays the calls of the birds on the cards.

@jedfromyourlocallibrary 11 ай бұрын

Inspiring hope, centering collective action, collaboration, and responsibility are where we have to start and I’m glad there’s at least one board game that gets that 😊

@PopCultureDetective 11 ай бұрын

Great review!

@jole182 11 ай бұрын

This. Just this. Thank you, NPI for the continued deep dives and sincere board game conversations. Love it.

@entropy2k196 3 ай бұрын

One fact I use to keep hope alive is the hole in the ozone layer. When I was younger that was one of the largest environmental concerns in the world. Over time, the cause was identified (Chlorofluorocarbons, or CFCs for short), the world agreed to remove CFCs from aerosols and kept their word, and now the hole is slowly closing itself up. We CAN fix the damage we do to the planet, we just have to commit to it.

@misterttea 11 ай бұрын

Great review! It really resonated with what I've enjoyed about this game. I was part of the Kickstarter (so some amount of confirmation bias may be present) and have played it several times with my wife and teenage son. She really enjoys the cooperative aspect and that it is a game where the actions are establishing public policies and not grabbing military, economic, or political power. My son likes it because he can repeatedly (and slightly winkingly) tell everyone else about his region's outsized impact on saving the world, "We did it! and by we, I mean mostly me!"

@retineshilares2497 5 ай бұрын

Thanks for your comment. Many teenagers struggle with ecoanxiety and it's good to know that gaming can help them get knowledge and confidence to face what's going to happen in their life time. A cooperative game also seems to adress better our shared experience and help to support relevant political changes.

@ragnar3434 11 ай бұрын

Personally I appreciate this game's optimism. I'm sort of getting the impression daybreak assumes the phasing out of capitalism, which is notoriously next to impossible to imagine, but fuck it, I can begin with that assumption for the purpose of the game in the same way I can imagine colonial powers getting smashed apart by the gods in spirit island.

@ragnar3434 11 ай бұрын

Optimism is necessary to progressivism, in the end. You have to have an idea of what things should and could be like. Sometimes this means creating media set in a hypothetical better world, and the fact that it hurts means it's doing its job.

@AdrianQuark 11 ай бұрын

It definitely does not assume the phasing out of capitalism, it's just that economics are just below the level of abstraction which is modeled directly by the game. Your limited hand represents your limited capital, project cards embody tradeoffs (like decarbonization almost always increases energy demand), and some crises represent capital working against you. I mean it's true that the central premise that governments can set policy is not strictly capitalism, but that's true in the real world too, there are no purely capitalist societies with no government regulation.

@ragnar3434 11 ай бұрын

@@AdrianQuark fair enough!

@Puggen83 11 ай бұрын

Thank you for a great, informative and inspiring review with perspectives. I backed Daybreak on Kickstarter (i think it was ks) and i really love the game and the way it shows hope. I like the storytelling in the game. When ending a round we let every country explain what progress they have done. It is really fun to create stories about how the world could be. Im not a role player gamer, but in this game it comes so naturally, we gets carried away by green the possibilities and opportunities we created.

@sidneyleejohnson 11 ай бұрын

This review was awesome. I really can't understate how much this meant to me. I had my own copy of the IPCC First Assessment report in 1990 which I later lent out (sigh). I was among a handful of students who were the first graduates at my University majoring in Environmental Studies (to be fair my other two majors were history and economics; followed by masters work in financial history). I was really surprised that a couple of games really covered my areas of focus were published recently. Hegemony and Daybreak. Both ridiculously well done and most surprisingly well received by so many. Who would have ever anticipated that crowd reaction? I would put these two games proudly next to one of my other favorite educational board games "Acquire". Ironic huh? Some games should never be purged from your board game collection due to their educational value and I think when this gets added to mine, that it should never leave on similar principles. Sorry I didn't back it at first but lately I've been a bit more gun shy on backing games and wanted to see how it did in reviews after it was published. I'm not sure I recall you speaking to whether this scales to four players well during your review. If you have any insights on the best player counts let us know. Thanks! I haven't played Hegemony yet so now I'm wondering if somehow it worked in mankind's impact on the environment into its design. The owners, vs workers vs managers theme may have left out that entirely. Perhaps that would have just been too much to expect out of a single game. I'm not sure if their "Crisis and Control" expansion or core game would have covered environmental impacts. Its ok, we can cover it across multiple games.

@DerekShinglesCoops 28 күн бұрын

Had my eye on this game for a while and, thanks to this review, this has proved my tipping point to get it. Loved your honesty about the situation we find ourselves in, but also the optimism you brought too. Thank you!

@GaryLutchansky 28 күн бұрын

Such a pleasure to hear your thoughts! And also, about the game. Well done!

@hickknight 11 ай бұрын

And this is why I want to support you guys. For reviews like these, they are awesome!

@Karaz76 10 ай бұрын

Man, that's probably one of your most powerful video to date. Inspiring (like Daybreak seemingly want us to feel) and empowering.

@Tyrano739 11 ай бұрын

I now strangely feel both depressed and hopeful at the same time. Never knew a board game review would move me.

@KingSmudger 11 ай бұрын

This was an utterly brilliant and powerful review! I have a copy coming to review myself and I cannot wait! Thank you for your genuine passion on climate change too that was so good to see

@tamada92 11 ай бұрын

Game looks amazing, appreciate how much work the developers put into their website for background information! Thanks for the thoughtful review NPI :)

@RossHebden 11 ай бұрын

I've not played with the extra difficulty options which address the only concern I have with the game, tiny though it be but even so, it's such a great game. Meaningful, elegant and genuinely fun (soooo combo-y). Great review!

@volvoxglobator8747 11 ай бұрын

I really enjoy your in-depth talks about the underlying themes of board games and their implications for real life. In my opionion you and your channel achieve this like no other :)

@paperythinideas 11 ай бұрын

Probably my fave games of the last 6 months. Thanks for the clever review!

@halflingspy8111 11 ай бұрын

I've read and watched in a few places that one thing that modern generations have to do is believe in the concept of Utopia again, unironically. Not because we think a perfect Utopia is possible, but because there needs to be hope and motivation for people to rally around rather than cynicism and despair. I've played Daybreak twice and fell in love with it because of just how hopeful and aspirational it is.

@retineshilares2497 5 ай бұрын

Environmental sciences are quite pragmatic, that helps to break out of the belief in Utopia / cynism and despair axis.

@Momplestiltskin 11 ай бұрын

After watching this video I ended up buying it. Just played it with some friends and we had a blast!

@GuillotinedChemistry 11 ай бұрын

Well put. Hopefully this game inspires engagement over hopelessness. Things can certainly seem bleak, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't swim for shore. Thanks again!

@Roezmv 4 ай бұрын

A helpful, and passionate, review. Thanks!

@Mark-OutWest 11 ай бұрын

The other side to the fume covered Amazon van ( the contractors in their non-descript vehicles) being intentionally provided the most inefficient navigation system which forces them to drive hampered routes so that they can never meet efficiency goals for packages being delivered quickly because Amazon would have to pay them a bonus for it. This is a thing.

@Klaus-s6w 11 ай бұрын

We already surpassed mean 1.5 c rise in the last 12 months. :/ look it up

@udunumami 11 ай бұрын

I am so happy to see you guys bringing us more reviews! I miss the more regular uploads. You both are the best in the game at these reviews!

@richardscales9560 11 ай бұрын

While the theme doesn't excite me ( it doesn't put me off either) the mechanics look interesting and I like the ability to vary the difficulty. Design is also clean making it easy to see what's what. I think I'll be buying this one.

@deusex3124 11 ай бұрын

This is a reminder of how great this channel is. This is a board game review but really it's so much more than that. I'd never heard of this game but I might pick it up now because the art design and aesthetics look clean and really well done and the central concept of the game is genius frankly. This is the kind of co-op game that deserves to be a mainstream hit like Pandemic.

@camiloguadalupetorres2442 2 күн бұрын

A great review of a board game and of Earth future!!! Just awesome!!!

@chumley307 11 ай бұрын

Wonderful review! I have my copy, but our group has yet to play it. This inspired me to make it my pick for this weekend. Can't wait!

@AdrianQuark 11 ай бұрын

So happy to see this game getting more review coverage and discussion.

@datajack01 11 ай бұрын

You've given me hope for my next replay. A "next play" was already planned, meaning, I definitely wanted to give this game some other tries but... and you've summed it up pretty clearly at the beginning but for some reason I didn't really realized it during our first play, it starts fast, brutally fast, that's obvious, but because of that, it ends relatively fast and equally brutally. For us, it came almost as a surprise, it was anticlimactic (no pun intended). Like, omg omg omg, done... it fell flat... not the gameplay.. the story arc.. the narrative. Perhaps, pointing out that, from the get go, in four turn we loose the game, this would set the expectation for the players and make a difference. Also, it's possible that it was our cards combination and the way the crisis came out that made it feel that way. We won our first game, it was a challenge but not that much, perhaps that was it. In any case, you've given me hope for our next game.

@retineshilares2497 5 ай бұрын

With all the cards to play, I imagine it's motivating the players to improve. It's not like we would get out of creative ideas to fight climate changes.

@datajack01 5 ай бұрын

Yeah, it's not that the gameplay is not exciting, on the contrary (might be part of the problem actually).. the card play is nice.. it provides nice opportunity to pull nice rewarding combos and all.. Again, what I pointed out is the "story arc"... let's take Pandemic for instance.. It starts rather smoothly, we have rather clear puzzle to figure out. We have some time to figure out our stategy, how to play our own character and the chosen team of caracter together.. then it starts to intensify.. sometimes theres busts of intensity with, if the players are lucky/good some respite, a beacon of light... and then we see the game end coming (either in a good way or badly). For daybreak its more (Start) Holy f what is going on (Mid) How is this possible (During last turn) Oh! The game is ending after this turn, we got it! (Or we dont). It might (very sadly) be a bit too thematic. Anyways, after 4-5 plays now... tgis is definitely something I mention, and point out to new play... "ok, so, be aware.. it'll feel and go that way..."

@danvenables4935 5 ай бұрын

Great review and sounds like a great game, hopefully it gets buzz and brings more attention to the urgent matter. Having it available already on BGA is fantastic also! My vote is for Efka for world leader, would do 10x a better job than a lot of them.

@Beepkris 11 ай бұрын

I really enjoyed this review! Looking forward to playing my copy.

@BBlueBBasterd 11 ай бұрын

This game mostly shares its theme with Gigawatt, which I really enjoy. Gigawatt has a lot fewer additional theme, focusing almost exclusively on supply/demand and on emissions, but it changes the feel of it by making it competitive. While I really like that Daybreak is cooperative and I plan on giving it a shot, the cynical grumpy man in me likes that painfully accurate depiction of Gigawatt that it is a competitive race about saving your own ass and making money. That being said while Gigawatt really nails the intricacies of the energy transition, I feel Daybreak does a far better job on the theme of actually stopping climate change.

@worschtebrot 5 ай бұрын

This channel is freaking awesome. Brilliant review, brilliant segue into climate reality.

@OrdemDoGraveto 10 ай бұрын

The game idea is interesting. But I'd like to see some mechanism that makes cooperation dificult. Perhaps adding a ecnomy system, or individual player objectives that get in the way of helping each other. So that you have to balance working together with the others, while still trying to advance your own agenda.

@GayestWinston 5 ай бұрын

great review! thank you:)

@GayestWinston 5 ай бұрын

also the challenge cards just sold this game to me hehe

@brandonyeah1351 11 ай бұрын

Huge Kim Stanley Robinson vibes game. Thanks for exploring the poltics.

@emmaplaysgreen2849 11 ай бұрын

I highly recommend The Ministry for the Future to anyone who hasn't read it, it's a brutal yet ultimately hopeful read.

@vincentomodei7654 11 ай бұрын

oh man, an ecoterrorist/children of kali 5th player expansion sounds scary!@@emmaplaysgreen2849

@abruwer08 11 ай бұрын

Don't forget his other books such as New York 2140 and his Science in the Capital series/Green Earth. Also highly recommended.

@retineshilares2497 5 ай бұрын

Thanks, I didn't knew about him. I already read some of Philip K. Dick novels though. I imagine his works will be adapted into movies too, at some point.

@Bleuchz 11 ай бұрын

Agree strongly about the theme and.. emergent? Intentional? Whatever it should be called narrative design of this game. One thing I did wish to emphasize in the comments (besides complimenting the review and engaging for the algo) is that this is my single favorite way I've seen a game handle tableau style engine building. Its engaging and provides excellent tension as to when you cover a column to change its action. You're able to pivot while not being punished for investment providing you plan properly, there are ample ways to smooth out luck of the draw but you can acheive greater economy if you chose to fly a bit more by the seat of your pants. I think my only critisisms are that it is a bit multi player solitaire (though as you mentioned there are ways to share cards/tokens and I'd argue the discussions during/after the game help as well) and that the game can be punishing if you fall behind and don't keep pace (pandemic is similar and the game will end quickly if this happens so not a huge negative). Nice work as always :)

@AdrianQuark 11 ай бұрын

Limiting your tableau to always 5 cards is pretty smart, it keeps the complexity manageable so you won't forget to use any actions and adds difficult decisions and opportunities for clever play to maximize the use of only 5 actions.

@danielrunningmusic8049 11 ай бұрын

Thank you so much. This is absolutely beautiful.

@markframpton4500 11 ай бұрын

Great review. I’ve played this solo and with 4 players and love everything about it. The solo mode doesn’t feel like you’re only experiencing a lite version of the game either.

@LeTrèsVilain 11 ай бұрын

Truely like your analysis! And the point of view of this game seems fascinating. It is either we do it by cooperation, or we do it anyway after cataclysmics consequences of inaction... and at that point, it'll surely be by dictature.

@Clara-anise 6 ай бұрын

Watching the section on green tech exports just a few months after it came out now that the US government has passed heavy tariffs on Chinese made green tech is, ah, well, uh, something

@DayKlight 11 ай бұрын

reminds me of CO2 the board game. what my concern might be with Daybreak, how is the replayability? from your review, it looks like that for example if you play it with the same friends a 3rd time, everyone knows the combos and you just pick who goes for what and stack the bonuses. or is it not like that?

@AdrianQuark 11 ай бұрын

There are hundreds of project cards so you cannot plan on any specific combo being achievable during any game. You really have to be tactical and make the best use of what you draw at any time. If anything, it's a little too variable and hard to plan ahead.

@DayKlight 11 ай бұрын

@@AdrianQuark thanks for the clarification :)

@StuffByBez 11 ай бұрын

I love that the mechanics reinforce the idea that you need to develop a plan ASAP and kinda stick to it. At least keep building on what you have learned. And share freely between nations. But the fiction meant that after my one playtest (pre-release) I found myself quite depressed that night. We had won the game, worked together as global powers and saved the world. But IRL I cannot imagine governments working together and prioritising this issue so honestly. I cannot imagine a world in which I can effect the sort of changes that I did in this game. Maybe I need to work on my imagination. 😞

@retineshilares2497 5 ай бұрын

It's what I felt playing Shadowrun : rpg with my former friends. I was wondering why they were supporting radical mesures as characters but had trouble to implements small changes in real life. I found new activist friends later on that lacked the gaming experience and ended up bridging my interest between friend groups. Some of the new people I ended up playing with were from a scientific background and were very efficient to make points in games, but their logic was very instrumental and the game experience was less social than experimented as a team project. Daybreak seems to bring a political dimension which can makes us experience frustration and also political repression IRL. With social networks, you can look for environmental projects in your region and often they are linked to other projects. You end up getting notified as they look for volunteers. Just to like and share their initiatives can help bring more visibility and awarness on issues we collectively face. For example, with the forest fires last year, scientists from around the world joined forces to develop more knowledge and share practices. There seem to be a post-covid shift in the way science is made. Usually governements work with businesses to help citizens get jobs. We can support b-corps that are ecoresponsible and secure more jobs in climate changes related areas. Orient our collective purchase power with buycott and boycott. Often, we get depressed to disinved behaviors before to reinvest in an adjusted one. Keep on.

@Keasarr 11 ай бұрын

After listing all the things that you are tired of at 10:50, just gotta connect the common disease that causes all those symptoms ( it begins with a C) and then say "I wanna get rid of that". And then you're a good 100 steps on the way of realizing the solution, comrade. Get organized!

@Drumox 11 ай бұрын

I really want to try the game to save the world but it's almost too real

@daniellewis1511 11 ай бұрын

The documentary 2040 as a board game. Love it

@Illusionator 11 ай бұрын

Amazing work guys. Terrific piece ✊🏻👏🏻👏🏻

@0zeronumber 11 ай бұрын

Please continue to be Efka with Us !!!

@mjiopytrklk 11 ай бұрын

Absolutely amazing video like always! I want to buy it as soon as it becomes available not overpriced in Europe

@labcoatman 11 ай бұрын

We can enjoy power fantasies of fighting monsters and using magic, but it turns out hopeful fantasies like global cooperation against climate change are even better. But it does reflect some things about the real world, even though its abstracted! One evident in your video is that reducing emissions from energy generation is much easier than reducing them from any other source. (Each power starts with the technology to do so and can ramp that up fairly easily.) And as someone with not as much time to play as I'd like, I've still managed to get in close to dozen games of this (many of them solo) since my copy arrived. Thanks for articulating many of my thoughts about the game.

@retineshilares2497 5 ай бұрын

Many magical creatures are also using magic to protect the environment too.

@TheTabletopMisfits 11 ай бұрын

Interesting how they package it as attainable IF the world can be motivated and work together. Which is an IF that is purely theoretical. We had a good run.

@NoPunIncluded 10 ай бұрын

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@Electroporcupine 11 ай бұрын

For full realism the game needs a traitor mechanic where players are incentivised to keep dirty power around for their own personal point supply.

@yarondavidson6434 11 ай бұрын

The problem is that cooperative games with a traitor don't work when all players are traitors, so this level of realism just won't work as a game...

@sporadic08 11 ай бұрын

That little dog at @10:50 is also tired.

@RyanEdwardsVA 11 ай бұрын

Fantastic video. Just lovely stuff all around. Good on ya.

@franciscoayrolo5612 11 ай бұрын

Are the players asimmetric? I feel like part of the "cooperation fiction" feeling weird is also all players being equal. The 4 different "factions" mentioned are completely different in terms of carbon emissions and natural resources available. The contrast between a country like the US or China producing the highest carbon footprint, versus Latin America (part of "the rest of the world") having LITERALLY the Amazon we talk so much about (and Lithium)

@davyhotch 10 ай бұрын

Its not a Chess symmetry game. Each player has different starting cards. Resilience Shields , Communities in Crisis and Emissions totals to remove. Majority world and China need more help from other players as their energy demands increase at (2X 3X) speed and they already have more Carbon cubes per turn on the board to clear.

@Mark-ph7cy 10 ай бұрын

Has anyone in Europe been able to find an English language retail copy yet?

@ThePiachu 11 ай бұрын

This looks like a fun game. Reminds me of Earth Rising: 20 Years to Transform Our World, another board game about global cooperation to save the planet from a climate crysis. Might be worth having a look! Would be nice for more people to hear about such positive games! :D

@ashleyhunt517 11 ай бұрын

Loved this video!

@Kritzlof 3 ай бұрын

Very interesting! Have yet to play it but I'm researching how games and board games may or may not be used for creating change and/or the social movements needed to create change. Great review and thanks for speaking seriously about the climate crisis. Collective action is indeed the way to solve it. Climate justice now!

@robcooke88 11 ай бұрын

The Smile. ❤

@bingethink3491 7 ай бұрын

I have a fledgling Board game YT channel, and I’ve just found yours. I think I’ll delete mine…as it will never be half as good. Convinced me to find copy of Daybreak too.

@NoPunIncluded 7 ай бұрын

Bollocks to that. Just watched one of your videos, your presentation skills are great - you sound very engaging. Keep it up!

@bingethink3491 7 ай бұрын

@@NoPunIncluded Appreciate it.

@kinklimonji3898 11 ай бұрын

Is there a way to buy the game in English in Europe without importing it from the US? I would love to show the game to my friends but German is not really an option

@NoPunIncluded 11 ай бұрын

I believe a wider distribution will happen sometime later this year, but it's worth asking the publisher. We don't really liase with publishers so no idea really.

@alxhague 11 ай бұрын

Publisher here! Our UK distributor, VR Distribution, has ordered copies, so it should be available soon.

@brunomarques8956 8 ай бұрын

Great fuckin speech!!! People need to hear more of those. Also the game looks hela fun, heard about it on su&sd thunder road vedetta, and went here, for sure gonna buy it on the future

@davidcairns6527 11 ай бұрын

They didn’t even mention that all the components are designed to be as low-carbon as possible. Board games have such a huge opportunity to be zero-carbon “cradle-to-cradle” products, and yet we still put up with big dumb plastic trays filled with plastic bits. Huge props to the designers and CMYK games 👏

@NoPunIncluded 11 ай бұрын

We (sort of) did! 13:27 is the timestamp.

@loves2tinker 11 ай бұрын

I love your reviews. Definitely Ted Talk worthy.

@Leron... 11 ай бұрын

But what if I'm already subscribed!?

@NoPunIncluded 11 ай бұрын

cross your fingers and there's also patreon

@stowcreek1999 11 ай бұрын

Thank you so much for this!

@HoboMeow 11 ай бұрын

AH! This sounds delightful Thank you

@Seryn88 11 ай бұрын

Such a shame that hope for the future seems to be the best path forward, I was hoping that raging anger at all the greed would get us there.

@SeanlikesGames 11 ай бұрын

Extremely cool looking game and immediately goes on my wishlist! It strongly reminded me of Vital Lacerda's CO2, where the second edition also contains a cooperative mode and we've actually never once played competitive.

@manuelcamargorivera5980 11 ай бұрын

Amazing video. Thank you

@andyraff4465 11 ай бұрын

We played a game of Daybreak on Board Game Arena (it's on Board Game Arena btw). I had no idea what was going on, no idea what anything did or how it worked, or what useful steps I could take, we lost within three turns or so leaving me confused and depressed about everything. So pretty much a one-for-one simulation of how climate change makes me feel in the real world. No notes. But! I am glad of anything that helps give other people even a little bit of hope.

@alxhague 11 ай бұрын

Publisher here: I'm also guilty of going in BGA and just pulling levers on games, but Daybreak definitely needs everyone to watch the rules vid or read the basics before playing.

@AdrianQuark 11 ай бұрын

Yeah BGA automates things in a way that would make it hard to understand what's going on even though it's pretty simple. When I teach the game I start by walking though the carbon cycle, I think the act of just manually moving the cubes along really helps people get the core idea quickly.

@andyraff4465 11 ай бұрын

It was absolutely clear that there was a fascinating co-op game in there that would reward unravelling. It just entertained me at the time the way going into it without having done more than skim the rules created a response similar to the one I have in real life. We will certainly come back to it when it's not a beer-and-pizza Friday night.

@Cipriboris 11 ай бұрын

I follow your channel because i love these deep dives. The use of critical theory, if you call it that, it's the forte of your channel for me

@amunt3r 11 ай бұрын

But if you can work out how to save the world pretty much every time, where's the challenge and long term interest in actually playing?

@dave0754 11 ай бұрын

That's Science!

@eduardorickrot4763 11 ай бұрын

They should have an expansion with a hard mode where players get money points while playing that are harder to get as you go greener and if you manage to save the earth, the player with the most money wins

@rkk667 11 ай бұрын

Thank you

@saltfreegamer 11 ай бұрын

The underlying message that cooperation is a prerequisite to tackling climate change is laudable, and a positive, optimistic play space is wonderful! A critique of the message though: It appears this game perpetuates the belief that technology will magically solve our energy consumption problems. The example that stands out in the review is nuclear energy. It is not renewable and leads to other existential threats to humanity. It also may not actually be carbon neutral anyway after you account for extraction, refining, and dealing with the extraordinarily dangerous waste materials, none of which are optional or easy to solve. That's fine though, that leaves space for another game to explore - what if we actually needed less? These are all ideas worth engaging with. Thanks for the thoughtful review!