UPDATE: As others have shared, and with the current market at time of this comment, DEFINITELY USE YOUR EXOTIC COINAGE if you have the Artifacts. You can near max out your artifacts in ~40 logbooks, and that USING the exotic coins can 3x-4x the value of them (eg. brief example at 12:07 in vid) via the raw currencies & drops you get from buying stuff via Tujen. It DOES take time to haggle (which could be spent farming more), but with current market, I now feel it's worth it, especially if you want to chill out for a bit which has its own value. I updated my excel sheet with profit calculations from 579 Exotic Coins spent, earning a profit of 39 exalts from those coins, after running around 60 logbooks to earn the artifacts.
@ВладРезник-е2з2 жыл бұрын
hello, how did you manage to get 20 exalt orbs? Based on my measurements, you get one ex about every 100 coins. Although once Tujen offered me 4 orbs in one package. If this did not happen during your measurement, Tujen offered you ex shards very often
@ВладРезник-е2з2 жыл бұрын
UPD: its actually happened second time(4ex). pog
@Ef-Eff2 жыл бұрын
In my experience last league, using the exotic coinage and even buying extra by reinvesting currency gained from the books and tujen would on average quadruple the cost of each coin used, it was ridiculous. The experience of haggling for hours is something some people may not enjoy though.
@janisarbidans89312 жыл бұрын
This its rather counter efficient to farm logbooks and not use exotic coins(since you do farm materials). On average each coin will net you around 8-12 c gain.
@awfsdgsgeefdgwef2 жыл бұрын
You are absolutely right, this league I farmed about 200 sun and scythe. And it is always better to use coins then sell them(burial coins and exotic). I had 1.5k chaos per hour just cos of tujen. Farmed my headhunter in 2 days playing poison conc with 5ex budget :D
@dubleblitz2 жыл бұрын
it does take time where you could also run more maps. On the other hand if you enjoy the occasional chill haggeling time like I do that is a great way to play the game without being on the edge all the time as the game is very fast and can be exhausting if you don't play a very tanky build.
@semiautomaticxd662 жыл бұрын
i am done with the league got my mageblood in 2 weeks i wish you have not made this video now everyone know the secret :/ ehehheheheh kidding nice video.
@ryanlewis50722 жыл бұрын
This is awesome, when I get home tonight I’m going to run the city square expedition farming guide you put out to start making my own logbook collection then I’m going to run logbooks the next day just to keep things different and fresh ! These videos are well explained and super helpful ! Definitely earned my subscribe.
@Daykun2 жыл бұрын
Thanks man! :) The variety is one of the greatest things about logbooks, especially the different map layouts!
@waynewalkerorg2 жыл бұрын
I've been doing this for the last week. The problem is that logbooks are so stupid rare. If you want to run exped, its best to just buy logbooks and continuously run them - and use those points on the tree for something more profitable.
@ryanlewis50722 жыл бұрын
@@waynewalkerorg I ran the city square method for a couple hours and had tons of re roll currencies and quite a bit of logbooks. So not sure if you’re employing the method correctly or juicing enough for quantity. When doing it you want as much quantity as possible and juice so you can pop a ton of altars to get more currencies is double chances and more rarity and quantity in map. Some maps I’ve dropped 3-4 logbooks because of good roles
@nosrellom2 жыл бұрын
For Tujen you can use the scroll wheel on your mouse to move the haggle bar which makes it a bit less strenuous than clicking and dragging.
@Daykun2 жыл бұрын
Actually lifechanging
@whatupisbanned2 жыл бұрын
Amazing video, just getting into Logbook farming and you explained it very well. Spreadsheet is a godsend. The video & spreadsheet are much appreciated. Doing the lords work my man ^^
@marksutherlandjr.21212 жыл бұрын
New Sub here, This video was done REALLY well, No access fat on this video, it was clean and to the point. You have a charismatic voice that is easy to understand and every bit of information given here was useful. Thanks for the time you spent uploading this.
@wideawakeanimal12 жыл бұрын
I've ran ONE logbook since they were introduced to the game but your video is concise so i'm going to watch, take notes and start running some logbooks. Who knows, I might find it really fun after some time.
@Gummy27412 жыл бұрын
I have been farming city Square expedition, making great returns 👏 I have 60 logbooks left after selling, seeing this I won't be selling anymore I'll be running em, love ur content bro.. ty
@chielzzmew2 жыл бұрын
Great tip on the oil extractor, getting quite a few golden oils off those. Thanks!
@iniquity27922 жыл бұрын
Another note, summon mage skeletons is probably the best build to run log books due to how tanky you are and the fact that the skeletons you spawn can either be cold, fire, and lightning damage. Making it so you do not have to look at most modifiers and just run them without being so cautious.
@chronoschord2 жыл бұрын
If you have at least 6mil mapping dps on mages, you can even do expeditions with 1/3 the damage (elemental immunity), as long as you stay far away and not be exposed to be hit often.
@minhducohyeah2 жыл бұрын
to be honest, skeleton mages is the worst build to run log books. Yes u can do 3 types of elements, but only one elemental immunity can slow down your clear speed by a lot. And i haven’t mentioned monsters’ block chance, 50% block chance (50% from only 1 remnant) and 1 elemental immunity = pain in the ass
@snow91482 жыл бұрын
hey dude, great to see u making videos again. Enjoyed ur content before and i sure do now. Keep it up!
@xYamakaze2 жыл бұрын
I just finished watching your Expedition Farming video and was going to ask "Why are logbooks so valuable, and should you run them yourself instead of selling them?" then I realized this was just uploaded. Thanks for the great guides. This is the first league I'm playing since Ritual, so I'm only now experiencing the Expedition mechanic due to it unfortunately being launched alongside "the great nerf". Shame, because the interactions I've had with this mechanic so far are really fun. Hope I'll be able to enjoy it lots this league!
@Daykun2 жыл бұрын
Glad I could sneak in with the right timing on this video haha. This is one of the most exciting leagues to get back into things! :D
@skread31722 жыл бұрын
I think you should haggle your exotic cointage as well because on the logbooks you're getting a lot of artifacts for haggling and i think thats kind of a loose to not use them while haggling, and you're making huge profit with tujen. I did a little sheet with 940 exotic cointage on haggling and i got back 55ex profit, with 25 raw ex and 1954 chaos which reimburse all the coins by itself. But it can be a little boring but you can watch a show or a movie while doing this, it took me around 3-4h for the 940 ec so around 10-11ex/hour And you also should corrupt your logbooks for a little more item Quant % But thanks for your data, really good video :)
@Daykun2 жыл бұрын
Wow that’s incredible profit from the haggles! Tujen is the man. I agree that it’s a bit of a waste to just leave them hanging. With profits like that, using the coins is a must if you can tank the boredom part.
@Discipol2 жыл бұрын
Welcome back! Trying to decide if in 3.18 I should go with Metamorph or Expedition so looking foward to the Metamorph video to compare
@jesse55052 жыл бұрын
so this profit was just from running logbooks and selling everthihng? not the reroll? i think if u used the reroll currency ud at least double the profit, but like u said in the video, its not for everyone and it is time consuming ( per 30 logbooks i spend 2.5 hours roughly haggling) edit: I just found ur channel, your videos are really good and informative. you have good delivery.
@Blamjack2 жыл бұрын
Made my Headhunter last league doing literally just Scythe logbooks and then rolling with Tujen. Rarest thing I got was a mirror shard. For every 30ish coins I was 2ex in profit (30 coins was bout 1ex in 3.16). Deffo worth these days too but with the low simu/shard/splinter prices I prefer selling coins once I'm out of grand artifacts.
@mikeypao5262 жыл бұрын
Hey your speech and delivery is excellent! How do you get this good?
@AnimaPrisma_2 жыл бұрын
God, those clips with ex drops really tickle my pickle
@xYamakaze2 жыл бұрын
Do you/Should you sell your Burial Medallions (currently 7-8c each in bulk), or use them try to reroll for logbooks? Do you use your Astragali for the meme, or just sell them for 2.5c each in bulk? I think logbook rerolling isn't too terrible, at least from my experience, as buying the reroll currencies helps recoup the cost of using a Burial Medallion to begin with. I personally enjoy gambling the stacked decks I naturally acquire once I get a full inventory's worth because I always break even/profit on them, but I know the Mageblood/HH/Squire chance is absolutely abysmal with Gwennen. So far I haven't gotten even a unique from her in about ~100 rerolls, so I'll probably just sell my Astragali.
@qodeee2 жыл бұрын
Astragali is fun if you're feeling lucky, i personally got a HH a week ago from her Burial medallions are kinda meh, for the cost logbook procs are rare and even then they might be of cheap faction (chalice/circle)
@ДмитрийИсаков-ч3в2 жыл бұрын
100 rerolls… lol… personally got mageblood and 2 squires from Gwennen.. have made 6000-7000 rerolls… it took me 2-3 weeks.. because I have a real life and playing 2-3 hours a day in the evening.
@shaunhutchinson47072 жыл бұрын
If you're planning on using Tujen to gamble/haggle, would it make sense to focus a bit more on remnants that give artifacts since you'll be needing/using them since you cant buy them in bulk anymore? Then obviously for Dannig or Gwenen, just focus on runic monsters, currency chests and underground/boss areas for more reroll currency you'll be planning on selling?
@Daykun2 жыл бұрын
Yes, that is right! Artifact chests and artifact remnants/logbook implicits can rapidly stack up the artifacts needed for Tujen rerolls and is very worth targetting at the moment.
@shaunhutchinson47072 жыл бұрын
@@Daykun Thank you for your reply. Btw, if you have a logbook that has the factions you want (Tujen/Dannig) but on the three bad areas, and then a bad faction like Rog but on a god tier layout, what is the lesser of two evils? I tend to still pick the better faction on a bad layout depending if their implicit can makeup for it like more explosives or boss, unless its Gwennen. Rog just isn't worth farming at all.
@mioszgorny6862 жыл бұрын
Im doing everything u said ;/ I use black scythe etc, only way to make profit is double runic , what resulted in 100c profit, often i just break even ;/ I do take improving remnants of quant of chests and artifacts. I look for map and plan the path, but often resulst with like 10c, some shitty currency and like 4-5 rerolls ;/
@lennyghoul2 жыл бұрын
Overall good stuff, but ignoring artifacts seems like a really bad idea. Tujen offers absolutely amazing loot for cheap. Rog is the best place to farm Ilvl86 crafting bases. Gambling Gwenn is how many people earned their first Headhunter/Mageblood.
@sed1tion9132 жыл бұрын
25 books in and spreadsheet figures! Very little Exalt shards and Exalts. Other currency should add up to be less than expected. Running i83 Logbooks alc'ed and rolled.
@Slavyn62 жыл бұрын
Ayyy thank you for this! This helps alot!!!
@tinyantyradio2 жыл бұрын
Hello there, do u have any update for the Sentinel season? :D thx for the nice job
@CTL2 жыл бұрын
Probably the biggest thing people hate about Expedition is how many remnants literally brick an entire build. Not just the immunities, but immune to ignite, cannot deal crits, cannot evade, cannot leech, kill at low life... The next step would be to suggest specific builds that get bricked the least often.
@NineSeptims2 жыл бұрын
how ggg balance the game brick an entire genre of builds
@animeweaver2 жыл бұрын
Hey Day, for those unfamiliar with PS, could you explain how you made the mini map readable like you did in the end of the video?
@romainwuillaume52292 жыл бұрын
Hello, I have a question, you seems selling exotic coinage for profit. Blacksythe (Tujen) is the go to usually, for that. But what if our goal is for personal usage, like Gwennen (Druids) for attempting to get a big loto ticket (HH, Squire, Mageblood, etc..) ? It's around 4-6k according to some data gathered here and there iirc. Worth a shot, or better still, going for Tujen, selling and buying dices?
@HFTVChannel2 жыл бұрын
Its the same dilemma as opening stacked decks vs selling them. When RNG is involved things can go either way. I suggest you do what you believe to be fun , even if it ends up not returning the profit , if you do expedition with dedication , gwennen is bound to return something in the end , just make sure you use a string in the search bar you believe to be worthwhile for you (Google Gwennen Search String Generator , i'd send you a direct link but youtube may not allow)
@romainwuillaume52292 жыл бұрын
@@HFTVChannel Hello and thanks. But that's not my question exactly. I get your point, but my question is more like : Is it more efficient to run Druids over Blacksythe, for exemple. As Tujen can sell multiple Astragali per Skull. My goal is not to make profit, but simply chase some items "by myself" (outside of maybe buying some logbooks to save some times farming maps).
@Vtwy30112 жыл бұрын
Which should i favour to farm expeditions?
@Elphiin2 жыл бұрын
Been doing this mixed with a lot of strats based on my" good" scarab pool + some essences and harbis, 30ex way from the skull belt
@slashgeegee80382 жыл бұрын
subbed! :) btw, im also running skellies, mind sharing your POB?
@yungtraplord76342 жыл бұрын
You’re awesome bro good shit ty
@ReginaldSprinkhuizen2 жыл бұрын
Great video, very informative. I'm on ssf, from what/where do the logbooks (that you bought) drop?
@shiosuke48372 жыл бұрын
The Logbooks drop from the Expedition itself which you do on the map.
@ReginaldSprinkhuizen2 жыл бұрын
@@shiosuke4837 okay thanks, I have yet to see one :-s
@shiosuke48372 жыл бұрын
@@ReginaldSprinkhuizen depends how much Runic monster you have and also how much quant and so on you have. Also there is a mod who says "Runic Monster have 50% increased chance to drop an Expedition Logbook" When you see that, pick it as first. When you see Runic monster are doubled, pick that always first bcs 2 runic Monsters are 4 then. And so on. Gl and hf while farming ! :)
@dummytest48222 жыл бұрын
why beast split and not fossil fracture ? fracture fossils seem to be much cheaper compared to beasts
@leandrogoethals65992 жыл бұрын
what if u where to sell them for real money what would ur income per hour be im curious
@CaptainHaddoq2 жыл бұрын
How would you rank Implicts vs Areas? Example: Mountainside with 2 good implicits vs Forest with 2 Ok ones?
@Daykun2 жыл бұрын
Yooo that's a great question! I thought about that and forgot to put it in the video. In my opinion, great implicits (ie. increased explosive radius + increased placement range) can turn bad layouts into good ones. I would always go with the best implicits over a layout with bad implicits.
@aandrenery2 жыл бұрын
Honestly I don't like Expedition mechanic, but I just saw your other video and I might try a tree with a mix of Essences + Expedition or Harbinger + Expedition, and of couse, one of the two influences.
@Daykun2 жыл бұрын
Expedition in maps is one of the true winners of this league. I hope things go well! :D
@aandrenery2 жыл бұрын
@@Daykun Hope so :) First I'll start just having the nodes you suggested on your other video on my tree and just run my maps alch and go, if even not using Scarabs I get good results I'll start using them
@jac18972 жыл бұрын
@@aandrenery it's such a big winner , even doing just polished in 2 days of casual play I managed to get 45 logbooks , now im just lookin at a big wall xd
@aandrenery2 жыл бұрын
@@jac1897 Thats great. I'm playing the Omni TS build right now and The Interrogation price is going up haha. Heard its a huge damage boost to get it
@Konung822 жыл бұрын
is it worth splitting logbooks? atleast it was last league
@mnfirdaus50032 жыл бұрын
Hi what build are you using to farm these and how much ex needed for the build?
@ggzii2 жыл бұрын
Could anyone explain how to aquire Exceptional Black Scyth artifacts, I have a cortex map for 300 of them but have no idea how to make or buy them!
@awman91342 жыл бұрын
Do one or two black scythe logbook with the way mentioned in the video, should be enough for 300 if not you can still haggle.
@hayleygeek2 жыл бұрын
I had the horrible boss in one, died 4 times to major lag spikes in the tiny arena. Didnt get him. Cried myself to sleep for not reading the logbook info first properly 😭😭
@taiwanisacountry2 жыл бұрын
Did you not use your own coins? Then why do logbooks? I have earned 700ex from logbooks so, mostly from using the specialist currencies.
@ZephWraen2 жыл бұрын
I feel like I may have sold you some logbooks, lol. My current build isn't strong enough to run them reliably yet, so I've just been farming the logbooks in maps and selling them instead.
@upirvok2 жыл бұрын
logbook got nerfed this leage. it was shadow nerf. i farmed them from the start and the hest chest was the best it almost always dropped bp... now its realy rare when its drops:((
@seniorita48012 жыл бұрын
i did like 16 maps with polished expedition scarab ( have all nodes for expedition ) and i didnt drop any logbook. its really sad. one logbook i dropped was on t2 maps on beginnin of league. good thing is that i dropped hh from gwenenn roll and its nice, but it was so lucky.
@TheMineCraftWorldPL2 жыл бұрын
I ran over 500 polished expedition scarabs with all expedition nodes on the tree, entire quant tree and increased effect of non-unique maps over a 2 weeks. Got about 120 logbooks, and like 10 had boss in it, Should also mention every map was chiseled alched and vaaled to further boost quant, ran anything above 70% quant (didnt bother to get better quant since some maps get bricked after vaaling, some would change and I ran only Strands). Overall I 4x my investment w/o counting in logbook sales, just purely in reroll currencies. Just spammed Strands 24/7. And yes, logbooks dont drop as often as you would think they would, but some times you get 2 or 3 in one map, sometimes 1 every map and then you can easily go with 0 logbooks over 12+ maps. Even then reroll currencies more than pay for the map, basically anything but Rog is 2x return if not more
@TheMineCraftWorldPL2 жыл бұрын
stacking quant is very important, getting as much quant on the map, atlas tree, eldritch altars and expedition quant, pack size remnants before picking big skulls and blasting is crucial to success
@Zylosio2 жыл бұрын
I only ran like 50 maps since i took the Expedition nodes but i already got like 20 logbooks and i don't even always use Expedition scarabs
@seniorita48012 жыл бұрын
@@TheMineCraftWorldPL Im runnin maps only over 100 quantity, im just unlucky probably
@dirtygerd90832 жыл бұрын
I like haggling. Some of his voice lines make me chuckle. I run expedition in my maps not sure it would be more profitable to sell the logbooks and do another map or run them myself. They are fun though.
@addressunknown82 жыл бұрын
Run them. They are crazy profitable. Especially if you enjoy throwing down with Tujen.
@WOMFT2 жыл бұрын
Wouldnt knights of the sun sell for higher?
@redjuliete Жыл бұрын
Best man! :) thx
@semiautomaticxd662 жыл бұрын
Lol i did same so farm got like 300 ex and farmed headhunter in 2 days kinda busted strat
@merylljane3992 жыл бұрын
whoah, I am convinced haha
@codingbreak80322 жыл бұрын
Do you tutorial for beginners? I just finished act 10 and dont know where to go from there.
@jac18972 жыл бұрын
Just start mapping brah , run maps , earn whatever currency you can , and once you get a little base/some strength you can get into a hard strat
@gurisu77142 жыл бұрын
do you split logbooks ?
@Jinryougo2 жыл бұрын
Selling the exotic coinage is a big loss tho.. When u doing those 100 logbooks u will have tons of artifact and it will be wasted. Just do a quick refresh and quick haggle. Havent done much logbook this season, but i did alot of them on expedition season, even when the artifact still tradable i made a profit close to 20ex from haggling with tujen alone with only like 200 exotic. So the logic on this season it would be much profitable since artifact is not tradable anyway.
@wilfredowong53072 жыл бұрын
Can't do this maps mele build sucks now I always die
@darkhaku362 жыл бұрын
I get rog 90% of the time it may work for you but not for me just too unlucky feelsbad
@TGFTTGFFGTTRUEFHROWHEF2 жыл бұрын
too much event in poe right now . feel like i dont have much time to focus every event. right now im focusing farming on level. till i hit 100. that enough for me. no mtx no problem.
@bounded53892 жыл бұрын
Good job. Like repost
@angustin65902 жыл бұрын
Nice
@poonashi5702 жыл бұрын
can you give me atlas passive?
@exe1j2a3n22 жыл бұрын
5ex/h when ur main profit is what u sell... And on video u show only lucky ex drops... I prefer farming brother stasches but ok not bad video at all
@SearedBite2 жыл бұрын
idk how u can profit without using artefacts, that's where all the profit comes in
@MsAndyboys2 жыл бұрын
được admin buff lb có khác :)) đỏ như ma
@grifftech2 жыл бұрын
I have never seen a single logbook drop :(
@Zylosio2 жыл бұрын
Have you tried playing the game?
@fergusonja82 жыл бұрын
No matter how profitable I’ll still hate expedition
@Audiofears2 жыл бұрын
Dam 35 c each i cant afford them xd
@pepegaphone45362 жыл бұрын
Just avoid sarn slums,that map sucks
@TheLilShuffle2 жыл бұрын
You must have gotten some awards for public speaking or something...