NO... Disney's Mufasa Did NOT Beat Sonic Movie 3...

[@xxTC-96xx]

honestly even 2D animation wouldn't have saved Mufasa's clunky story but it would have definitely gotten people's attention, but disney refuses to put that effort in

[@cedrolenon]

welcome back old friend

[@ribottostudio]

as someone in the warrior cats community they should ABSOLUTELY pay the Warrior Cats animators to re-animate it in traditional animation. Bye Bye alone deserves it. The storyboards were so much more fun.

[@darkstalkerknight63]

you do know it takes more efforts to make 3d stuff than 2d. wow. how did you get everything wrong.

[@mitwhitgaming7722]

@xxTC-96xx Exactly! Avatar's CGI spectacle works because it's story, while nothing revolutionary, worked. This is just a nothing story that is trying to sell itself as something grander than it is.

[@NotaShorty]

I want them to bring back 2D animation ngl, but I thought they discontinued that part of the studio like 2013

[@Erasureeraser]

It's so hilarious how Disney tweeted that Mufasa was the number one movie in the world then Twitter's Community Notes had to corrected them that it's actually not 😂😂😂

[@blu3g]

Not to mention Disney had to hide all the replies that mentioned Sonic like babies who couldn't accept that they were wrong

[@Cheri_Blast]

Community Notes are the one good thing to come out of Twitter

[@ItzAdrian02]

They're box office says otherwise

[@content9593]

@@blu3gthat's crazy, sensitive as flip

[@TheInsaneRazor123]

@@ItzAdrian02 Disney bought theaters to have more showtimes than Sonic, which is kind of petty to do. Not only that, about the box offices, I get the feeling they paid people, paid the tickets themselves, and even did some stuff in the dark to get that box office. What's even worse is there are possible rumors of Disney wanting to buy Sega, specifically Sonic!

[@theyakkomanguy7522]

Sonic 3 wasn't nominated for Best Picture at the Academy Awards, supposedly due to the fact the filmmakers didn't want the decision to be unfair.

[@ucatz7645]

Even mufasa wasn’t nominated either. However, I can’t confirm if this is true from that source.

[@pvzgamer6029]

Sonic 3 isn’t one of those movies to be nominated for the fucking Oscars. I’m sorry but I don’t make the rules. Sonic 3 is just one of those movies.

[@hanyuuhiiragi3544]

The fucking irony

[@grimboishungry9218]

​@pvzgamer6029 it's a great movie, not a landmark title or masterpiece, so yeah, fair, but there have been worse nominations and snubs in the past

[@ShockwaveFPSStudios]

The Oscars was always a fad.

[@nova_beam]

I wish Disney would stop getting rewarded for making mediocre movies made from much better animated movies. People just keep filling theaters for their favorite movies to be butchered.

[@Meow_Meow_Hurts_Real_Bad]

Well, they are rewarded for it and will keep doing mid movies (though, Inside Out 2 was an outlier) They literally have Moana 2 performing way too good, they were already rewarded before.

[@_Iscream]

I blame the Disney adults.

[@nova_beam]

I’m a Disney adult. It doesn’t mean I don’t realize Disney is a mega corporation pushing out recycled slop to the masses. If you love something you want to see it at its best. Not an uncreative shell of its glory days, putting profit over storytelling and innovation.

[@Zany_Zim]

​@@nova_beam you're not a Disney adult, you're an Adult that grew up with and likes Disney. Disney adults are psychotic

[@M_JackOfAllTrades]

​@_Iscream Well, don't, at least not the entire group that could be called that (just to clarify, by Disney adults you mean adult Disney fans, correct?). A lot of people who actually love Disney for their previous work get all the more frustrated and unhappy about the current situation than your average audience. More and more people are starting to get tired of these live action (or realistic 3D) remakes. On the other hand, those who aren't that into Disney other than purely for nostalgia reasons may actually be more likely to enjoy these remakes. Especially the kind of adults who think live action is automatically a more "grown up" medium - and let's be honest, an actual Disney adult is unlikely to be a part of this group.

[@AbandonedRaven]

Sonic has absolutely been cooking. The movie made me feel like a kid again and I may or may not have been fanboying about Shadow the Hedgehog. Truly an out of character moment for me.

[@spinningpeanut]

I dragged my butt to the theaters to watch sonic 3. There will always be a series that focuses on fun and crazy. Sonic has been that since the very beginning. It's never been a masterpiece and it never tries to be one. I'm there to enjoy a dumb hedgehog and a dumb scientist with their dumb friends.

[@AbandonedRaven]

@ I went after work in a suit due to my line of work. I did attempt to match my outfit with Shadow and Sonic’s colors. I was searching a lot for a small Shadow pin to put on my lapels but I couldn’t find one in time. Regardless, I looked out of place, and it was my first time in theaters since…2015? I just had to see for the lore. And seeing how Shadow got the idea for his shoes makes so much sense and was sooooo cute.

[@john-wx7gr]

driving to the theater was the first time in a long time that i had blasted linkin park in the car

[@rexellerainbow1173]

My ooc moment was fanboying over Amy more than I was hyping up my theater for Shadow lmaoooo

[@Maspets]

@@AbandonedRaven You're obviously a fanboy.

[@c0mf0rta61ynum6]

The whole "marketing hating musicals" thing especially makes no sense considering that it was fairly recently that we had a hit film musical release with Wicked.

[@JPOG7TV]

Everyone thought Wicked was gonna flop but they forget that theatre kids exist.

[@JaviSocas2My2ndChannel]

I've been hearing the I Just Can't Wait to Be King song during the Mufassa movie trailers the entire time in 2024.

[@FlagshipLunatic32]

I mean... is it really a musical? The one song most know is just a lion saying brother over and over with a beat in the background

[@woofwoofdominoz3352]

Joker 2

[@PeterGriffin11]

It’s unfortunate that Disney can make trash like Mufasa and still make money.

[@santosic]

It's the same reason Apple continues to do so despite recycling old trash every year: "brand" recognition. I don't know when or if people are finally going to wake up and stop giving them their hard earned money until they actually put an effort again.

[@1986Hikaru]

They had to brute force it and Paramount is kinda of allergic to money.

[@Cheri_Blast]

They’re still yet to make actual profit, however - sales are merely revenue, and Mufasa’s is yet to match how much it cost to make, meaning it’s a loss atm

[@disneyngooglesuckatvideogames]

So true. Shows how clueless people are.

[@LarryHayward-v7p]

Disney Bullies theaters to ruin Sonic 3

[@Jeff_doors16]

I feel bad for walt Disney. He would be so disappointed in what his company has become.

[@nizzymo]

He wouldn't be disappointed by the way the company is run (he would be jumping with glee). He would be disappointed by the low sales. He wasn't exactly a very good person. He was just as shady as the company he made.

[@remyd8767]

Yeah he would be so disappointed that Disney made $5 billion in 2024 from movies

[@nizzymo]

He would also be happy at how much awful stuff Disney gets to get away with nowadays. This is because they're filthy rich and have Saul goodman levels of lawyers.

[@nizzymo]

@@remyd8767 He would absolutely be jumping with glee with how much his company can get away with because Disney is so damn rich and can afford so many good lawyers.

[@cooliostarstache5474]

Disney has gone through financial and creative slumps before. The Disney Renaissance happened in the 90s lmao

[@abe2826]

I've been watching old Disney movies when I was a child. Looking back at it, I have come to the conclusion that mama Odie from Disney's Princess and the Frog was right. Money has no soul or heart. It merely corrupts. And it has corrupted Disney into a pathetic and desperate shadow of its former self.

[@MarcoAnaya-ks7bp]

Oh the irony!

[@artbytesia]

The weird part is, that's a movie Disney ITSELF made. You'd think they would take the advice of their OWN STINKIN' MOVIE.

[@Cuppachoccy]

"shadow"?

[@Mazzy_Arts]

​@@artbytesia yeah crazy

[@TheRealFurinaDeFontaine]

S-SHADOW? L-LIKE S-SHADOW THE H-HE-HEDGEHOG?!1??11!1?1!1?1!1?

[@emeryltekutsu4357]

Did they finally report numbers for Sonic everywhere yet? I remember a bunch of places were reporting Mufasa's numbers, but they weren't reporting Sonic 3's, meaning Sonic's actual totals weren't even in yet.

[@haydennolke]

it won't release in turkey until the 17th, they CAN'T do international totals until then.

[@remyd8767]

​@haydennolkeugh they have been reporting international totals.

[@haydennolke]

@remyd8767 talk to the person who made the comment then.

[@pablocasas5906]

Sonic has been performing very well in various countries, except in Japan where all previous Sonic's films flopped, things are kind of similar in other Asian markets like South Korea and China, Sonic isn't very popular there. Also, in Germany Sonic debuted in third place, below Mufasa and Moana 2, though I've heard Germany was one of the few European countires where SEGA consoles weren't that popular compared to others like the UK, France, Italy and Spain. On a positive note, Sonic 3 surpassed became the most successful film in the franchise in Italy

[@Mirage475]

Midas’s has objectively grossed more worldwide for Disney than Sonic for paramount. This is not debatable. However, profit from the films is a much different story as is what expectations were. Disney is probably scared of how much of a drop off Mufasa had. Whereas Sonic 3 continues to climb film after film

[@TheLunarLegend]

It would honestly be interesting to see a world where they didn't change ugly sonic and see how it all worked out.

[@giantclaw138]

I don't think it would have made it to Sonic 2. If anything I'm curious what Ugly Tails' design was for 1's post-credits scene, supposing they had models of him ready to match Ugly Sonic

[@retrocar7761]

It would of failed pretty hard and caused massive damage to the franchise, I'm super glad it didn't go that route.

[@sarahtelles1931]

I just realized has someone made A fan art of what the ugly versions of Tails, Knuckles, and Shadow would look like

[@AKJ7EAAATT]

@@retrocar7761 Do you know what else is massive? LOW TAPER FADE!!!!

[@usuario15965]

​@@sarahtelles1931yes, obviously

[@retrocar7761]

Sonic 3 is a fantastic film that will be watched over and over, Mufasa will just collect dust and be forgotten by most, Disney as a company is finished and has been for a long time.

[@cheshirewolf3513]

I think Disney itself will "Wish" to forget the flop that is Mufasa. The irony of the movie Mufasa, is that they pulled a Scar move on the Lion King franchise; where once it was the King, but Disney has betrayed him by letting the franchise fall to it's utter demise by the stampede of people going to see Sonic 3

[@plaidhatter1674]

Disney as a company isn't the issue. The studios it owns are not at fault here. It is the people who run it that are the issue.

[@spaceboyctstudios2934]

No wonder why someone on X/Twitter made a joke rumor on how Disney might wanna acquire Sega because of this incident. And while it’s a good thing it’s not real, it might end up becoming real.

[@thedoglovinggamer5825]

Thankfully due to Japanese law Disney can’t.

[@spaceboyctstudios2934]

@@thedoglovinggamer5825 What's Japanese law?

[@PlahaKumar]

Disney should keep their hands off of Sonic.

[@supermannygamer2003]

​@@spaceboyctstudios2934 It's a law But in Japanese

[@Cheri_Blast]

I doubt that’d ever happen, tbh (at least for the movies, since it’s Paramount who produces them) Don’t think they’d be very interested in the games, anyway XD

[@mitwhitgaming7722]

A movie no one asked for vs a movie the fans have been asking for for 20 years... yeah, I don't care what the numbers say.

[@remyd8767]

No one asked for a Barbie movie either...

[@mitwhitgaming7722]

@remyd8767 Yes, but Barbie stuck the landing.

[@darkstalkerknight63]

Mufasa: The Lion King box office total is 476,169,282 Sonic the Hedgehog 3 box office total is 336,466,642 sonic lost.

[@mitwhitgaming7722]

@@darkstalkerknight63 But compare Mufasa to the 2019 Lion king that made over a billion dollars. And consider that Mufasa cost $300,000,000 to make without even counting the marketing.

[@mitwhitgaming7722]

@darkstalkerknight63 the fact it was even close is a hilariously bad look for Disney.

[@joshuahecht6866]

Sonic movie franchise reached 1 Billion. Tell that to Disney and say when creativity and originality fails.

[@ThePrincessCH]

How is Sonic original? That character is older than the original "Lion King" film.

[@joshuahecht6866]

@ Good writing and making actual emotions instead of doing the “woke” thing over and over along with pander to every single person.

[@gideon1199]

Only took 3 movies… 😬

[@BlurroBlue]

​@@gideon1199 Because people would rather watch boring ass movies (Birds of Prey, Morbius, Mufasa) instead of GOOD movies, like the Sonic trilogy. ..I don't know a singular person who would rather watch Morbius, though.

[@gsm4919]

@@ThePrincessCHyou can make an original thing with a new character? Dont get me wrong sonic 3 isn’t original since its based off sonic adventure 2 but sonic movie 1 and 2 are original tales

[@SPIKE169]

What he did not say is how dirty Disney has been playing. Disney hogged over pleanty of premium screening. That means they made more money on each 3d, 4dx Imax screening. Sonic has most likely sold more tickets. Disney forced movie theaters from giving Sonic 3 more screenings. With stuff like Marvel and the lot. You do want to be able to show our movies, right? Disney. Although he is right. If it was 2d hand drawn animated Mufasa would have been crazy.

[@orcataco.]

The theatre by me has only three showings for Sonic 3 a day after the first week…Mufassa has twice that…

[@darkstalkerknight63]

wow. everything you said is a lie. none of that happened. sonic 3 sold less tickets. theaters put up the movie that more people wanted to see.

[@orcataco.]

@@darkstalkerknight63 I was just stating what my theatre did, I dunno really

[@SaltySeaStella]

Sadly I think kids today expect 3D in movies and flat 2D would be seen as mediocre in theaters. Would of been a step up though had the 3D been stylized cartoony and NOT realism. I don't think kids care for realism either most the time, at least I didn't as a kid. As an artist I appreciate 2D hand drawn but I realize most people don't, so not downplaying it be huge if Disney made a comeback to the 2D scene. I still personally wouldn't support a company like what Disney become but it grab my attention more for sure.

[@SPIKE169]

@darkstalkerknight63 Read the news and the articles all over the internet before you reply 🙄 it was 300 premium theaters that they held from sonic the first week. Then the second week, Sonic got only 11 more theaters. Also So Sonic has made much more then Mufasa when you take the budget and the advertising budget and add them together. Then, subtract that from what was made. Sonic murdered Mufasa

[@Lazyguy5473]

sonic is the first franchise i've fully watched in cinemas

[@WilsTube]

same here

[@AzraJ]

I actually saved up went to the cinema for the first time in about 3 years thanks to the blue blur ;D

[@LarryHayward-v7p]

Sonic Franchise is my new MCU

[@CristianPineda-s6i]

Please no Sonic needs to win the box office

[@Maho3942]

It ain't a big deal. Sonic managed to make Disney look like a bunch of clowns with that " #1 movie in America" nonsense. That is a victory in itself

[@angelmacias1293]

@@Maho3942 yeah. And it still has Mufasa beaten 2 > 1 at the weekend box office and Sonic 3 is still significantly higher at its domestic total than Mufasa.

[@tipjrjr326]

Commas

[@ItzAdrian02]

Its not that serious, it's not a competition

[@TheInsaneRazor123]

@@ItzAdrian02 Well to the mouse, it is. Especially since they used low-handed tactics to get that.

[@jeremycards]

You forgot the fact that Sonic 3 wasn't released worldwide until last week, while Mufasa has been out everywhere since about December 19. Here in Argentina we just got the movie not even 1 week ago. And a lot of those statistics Disney was throwing around were worldwide numbers.

[@darkstalkerknight63]

because that is a lie. sonic 3 has been out internationally since the 20th of last month.

[@saltysquidfromhyrule]

@ darkstalkerknight63 INTERNATIONALLY. Inter. Nationally. Meaning within the nation. It has only been released in the U.S. and Canada (North American region) as of Dec. 20th. It gets released WORLDWIDE (which is what people are talking about, btw) sometime after that date. No one is lying about that, you’re just incorrect.

[@jeremycards]

@@darkstalkerknight63 It's not? As i said, it released here in Argentina in January 2nd and in many other countries it released later too. At least look it up before talking bs.

[@samduymelinck]

​​@@jeremycards and yet in many (not all though) countries where it released later Mufasa is still ahead, or Sonic 3 is only marginally ahead. The few countries where it hasn't released yet aren't going to make up for the 150M+ difference at the international box office. The Sonic fans saying the release schedule is the reason it isn't ahead at the international and worldwide box office are just delusional and unwilling to admit defeat in a (mostly one-sided) war they started

[@AiGeneratedWaluigi]

@@saltysquidfromhyrule(I mean, it also released in the UK on the 21st of December but ok)

[@hasshenjo6416]

Failing? So far they've been doing decent with Shadow Generations it's not a long streak but as of now the games are doing pretty swell

[@Simply_resharkable]

Yeah they've been winning since like, 2020 or so

[@joshuahecht6866]

It is not failing. They defeat Disney even if it is for a days maybe weeks. That alone will inspire others look what happens to Transformers One.

[@fusionwing4208]

frankly most of the games they've released since 2017 have been okay to great, Sonic forces was disappointing, but not exactly bad, it was okay. Sonic Mania was a massive success. Sonic Team Racing wasnt exactly bad, it did alright, Sonic Frontiers did excellently, Sonic SuperStars did alright, its not a bad game at all. Sonic Origins did fine enough. Shadow Generations is doing well. I'd say Sonic Team has been overall performing better since the release of Sonic Boom Fire&Ice, they havent had a game that was outright hated or heavily disliked

[@Simply_resharkable]

@@hasshenjo6416 I mean forces is, generally speaking, both hated and heavily disliked for being literally nothing

[@austingordon3709]

@Simply_resharkableColors Ultimate was a buggy remaster of Colors that added stuff that no one was really asking for (easy mode in Tails Assist that you can’t turn off btw in a game that’s already pretty easy, Jade Wisp from Team Sonic Racing, Rival Rush with Metal Sonic), & the remastered soundtrack isn’t nearly as good as the original (at least imo). How some people consider this a better remaster than Skyward Sword HD, I will never understand. Sonic Origins & Origins Plus were also kinda meh in terms of collections, with glitches that still haven’t been patched. Also Sega choosing the Game Gear versions of Sonic 1 & 2 over the superior Master System versions for Origins Plus will continue to baffle me. Frontiers was pretty good. Then we got Superstars & The Final Horizons update to Frontiers. Oof. At least FH got a patch a few weeks later so it’s not as buggy & unfun. And Sonic x Shadow Generations was great!

[@featherguardian6023]

First TFO now Sonic 3?, that’s a Deception if you ask me as Mufasa is a Disgrace of Disney’s Evil that marks a Scar in our Faces, we all know Paramount has better Films than Disney.

[@sarahtelles1931]

Oh Transformers one. That's what TFO is

[@featherguardian6023]

@ Yep

[@ShockwaveFPSStudios]

That film underperformed at the box office, but the 3rd Sonic Film has been succeeding at the box office.

[@sarahtelles1931]

@@ShockwaveFPSStudios I think that Featherguard was pointing that out

[@indominuswrex9465]

Lion King, Lion King 2 and Lion King 1 1/2 were and are at the top of my favorite childhood movie list. I would rather burn my toenails off than watch Mufasa.

[@terryrocks2j]

Surprisingly they turned out great. I really had a blast watching 1 1/2.

[@MicrowavedGoods]

dude lion king 1 1/2 is such a good one. that's the kind of stuff disney should be doing with their movies

[@marlonhoek-po7gw]

okay, rant time: I hate the fact people only see Sonic 3 as "The Mufasa Killer" instead of a genuinely good film. like, literally every youtuber talks about sonic like it is the "Bullet that killed Disney" (even though Disney is too big to fail). I haven't even watched either of these movies, but DAMN people shouldn't use Sonic as their Disney-hate-boner just because it's better than a Cheap live action Lion King sequel... (This is not a Defense on Mufasa. I couldn't care less about that money making piece of garbage) (also, please don't spoil the movies, i'm curious for both of them)

[@jaypee116]

Thank you, sonic 3 is on it's own feet.

[@officialtollilion6627]

I can agree, my dad and I went to see Sonic because 1. Sonic is my Childhood, and 2. My dad wanted to see why I love this blue blur.... we left with me tired from crying like 5 times and my dad enjoying Shadow and now asking me things about him ✨✨

[@pablocasas5906]

@marlonhoek-po7gw yeah, I agree. It's kind of annoying that plenty of drama and "anti-woke" channels are using Sonic 3 as a sort of weapon againts Disney as a whole. I mean, Disney deserves a lot of criticism, especially with a lot of the recent decisions

[@alexandercorbett1147]

I agree. I think Sonic 3 is a great film, but I've noticed a lot of Sonic fans (even in this comment section) treat this movie like it's the greatest thing ever made and should be making billions in the box office. Like, guys, there have been better movies, I know it's wild to hear that, but it's true if you regularly watch them. At the end of the day, it's a movie about two alien hedgehogs that run really fast and Jim Carrey doing weird stuff with himself, it's not that serious.

[@officialtollilion6627]

@@alexandercorbett1147 Yeah! I'm a sonic fan as well, but I know it's not perfect. No movie will be, there are always be some flaws. But I think many mistake Great time with Perfection

[@gengargamer5657]

Btw, it wasn’t just Sonic Frontiers that has been successful lately. Pretty much every game we’ve gotten since Frontiers (Superstars, Dream Team, TMOSTH, and Shadow Generations in particular) have been very successful as well

[@leonardo899]

I'm at the mall right now. The movie is showing Sonic 3 only, they are not showing Mufasa.

[@ztsquid3000]

Disney nowadays is just petty, arrogant, and greedy. That's why I barely ever watch any of their new releases. 😒

[@PichusBlueberryPies]

I think the most recent films I watched out of a want instead of being forced to were Christopher Robin (2018) and The Lion King 2019, the former being because of a Winnie The Pooh marathon I did just last year and the latter because I wanted to see how badly they butchered The Lion King.

[@plaidhatter1674]

I watched movies like inside out 2, soul, and Luca because they were mainly pixar films...and were good.

[@Steve-e3v6e]

"Disney nowadays is just petty, arrogant, and greedy" that's literally every company, all of them have their own kinda of corruption in it

[@mttylerdurden9]

Disney has ALWAYS BEEN petty arrogant and greedy. They're just terrible at hiding it these days.

[@Maho3942]

Disney fans will be getting mediocre live action and cgi animal remakes for the rest of their lives. Sonic/shadow fans on the other hand are eating good

[@ItzAdrian02]

Very odd Comparison, with disney fans and sonic fans except the fact they had a film release at same time

[@JPOG7TV]

Not a great comparison because for every good thing sonic has, there’s trash as well

[@darkstalkerknight63]

sonic fans are eating badly after taking that massive L.

[@Meow_Meow_Hurts_Real_Bad]

Blud...this is Paramount, they're not exactly in a good position either 😭

[@Leonkennedy19992]

The first 2 sonic movies were bad. This is the first good one because the writer had a insanely good plot now since they had adventure 2 to get inspiration. The writers cant write anything good.

[@tjsmith5276]

What I think Disney should do is adapt at obscure novel from the fifties, sixties, seventies etc into an animated film like they used to do in the past. They could do "Dominic" by William Steig or the Freddy books by Walter R. Brooks.

[@oldoutlet6946]

Doesn't matter to kids. Every kid I either know or saw go to theatres were talking about Sonic.

[@filipvadas7602]

The amount of people unironically defending Mufasa is genuinely depressing...

[@ethejumper6568]

"You jumped out of a Disney Product, there's nothing to talk about." -Shadow

[@CousinGreek]

"The more you keep making shitty remakes the harder I wanna beat you at the box office!!"

[@EPPicstuff]

5:37 Actually, movie Sonic rather distinctly DOESN'T have stylized two irises in one eye, unlike the games. Just look at him!

[@FizzyChalice]

Sonic in the games also doesn’t have one eye, he just has two eyeballs in the same socket. I don’t like thinking about it, but it’s the most logical explanation.

[@Joshie-n8i]

2:31 bro has NOT kept up with the games💀💀 sonicxshadow gens was peak!!!

[@oliverthedum2129]

I’ve only ever played the really old original sonic games I don’t really know anything about the newer ones, should I get sonic and shadow generations?

[@EduardoMartinez-rs3bu]

Now that's a title I wanted to see

[@kenishachisholm5692]

Wdym???

[@lilyaka9194]

@kenishachisholm5692 That mufasa didn’t beat sonic (unless the title was changed)

[@Is-wunny]

Disney so Desperate they Started Lying lmfao

[@darkstalkerknight63]

but where are they lying. Mufasa: The Lion King box office total is 476,169,282 Sonic the Hedgehog 3 box office total is 336,466,642

[@Meow_Meow_Hurts_Real_Bad]

​@@darkstalkerknight63The delayed releases in other countries for Sonic 3 is actually hurting it, though just remember Mufasa costed 220 million $ as budget, not sure if it also includes marketing as well.

[@Dusty_Doggo]

@@darkstalkerknight63 They've been saying in their ads that Mufasa is the number one movie in America when it really is Sonic. The only reason why Sonic hasn't made as much money is that Mufasa has released across the globe, and Sonic doesn't get an international release until mid January.

[@bladeinthesmint5995]

@@darkstalkerknight63weeks ago when they were flopping more than a beached fish, they were putting tweets out saying that they were the number one movie in the world which at the time was such a lie. Also sonic 3 hasn’t been released fully globally yet unlike Disney so calling winners isn’t going to be accurate until they’ve both fully left cinemas. Plus, budget has to be taken into account since Mufasa’s budget was too much higher then Sonic 3 meaning they’ll inevitably get less back than the blue blur

[@CousinGreek]

I mean let's consider the options -A prequel for a popular side character from a fantastic movie released in 1991 -A movie showcasing the 2nd most popular character from one of the biggest video game/tech companies in the world that has been making games year after year since the 90s Which one sounds more relevant

[@arianramadanov_s1teknikele418]

To be honest, Mufasa would probably sell better if they used The Original Animated Lion King Style instead of Live Action CGI Shenanigans.

[@Mirage475]

It’s already selling better than Sonic. This dude in the video spent 1 second saying Mufasa was closing the gap and that the predictable outcome was going to happen

[@arianramadanov_s1teknikele418]

@Mirage475 That's not my point tho, my point is Mufasa wouldn't have to lied for being no.1 Movie at the first place.

[@Steve-e3v6e]

disney hates 2d aniamtion now so like that's gonna happen

[@HappilyWatchingHerDriftAway]

Sonic 3 was an INCREDIBLE movie. On the other hand, Mafasa was just dumb.

[@AndrewLake-gq8tt]

sonic 3 was pretty trash not gonna lie

[@HappilyWatchingHerDriftAway]

@AndrewLake-gq8tt Why you gotta say that?

[@mitwhitgaming7722]

@@AndrewLake-gq8tt It's a dumb kids movie with a life lesson. Something Disney used to be the Kings of...

[@user-x7dc2pq7n]

⁠@@mitwhitgaming7722”it’s a dumb kids movie with a lesson” you can say the exact same thing about Mufasa😂

[@mitwhitgaming7722]

@@user-x7dc2pq7n What was the life lesson? I’m not sure if the movie’s director could tell you what the theme was.

[@frenchytoast9397]

I lowkey want to see Sonic 3! Maybe i’ll see it during a weekened

[@LarryHayward-v7p]

GO WATCH IT MY BOY THIS WEEKEND💯💯

[@kenishachisholm5692]

I don't know when am gonna watch..... probably on paramount

[@fnaffoxy1987]

@@kenishachisholm5692 Trust me when I say that Sonic 3 is best viewed in a theater. It's just SO good.

[@mjolnair]

It didn’t beat it financially but that doesn’t matter because sonic 3 still won without spite while Mufasa was made without care but for grabbing cash

[@darkstalkerknight63]

sonci 3 lost to Mufasa. the numbers don't lie.

[@mjolnair]

@ yeah but which one was more enjoyable

[@Mirage475]

@@darkstalkerknight63Yes, but It depends on what disneys expectations were. And they likely are going to be unhappy that Sonic is even this close

[@theanimator4098]

To Disney - Make original movies about kids stuff or dark stuff! Pixar’s literally the only one making good original animated movies at this point.

[@JPOG7TV]

Nobody watches original movies

[@theanimator4098]

@ if its creative, most do

[@mitwhitgaming7722]

@@JPOG7TV The Wild Robot is now one of my favorite movies of all time, and I didn't even know it was based on a book.

[@2freeIvX]

Their new movie are flopping ebcasue of bullshit reason and no fandom to go see them. So no shit they are making sequel.

[@sanguinesatellite808]

@JPOG7TV speak for yourself my man, im begging for there to be more original movies

[@dragonfire5568]

I’m so glad that at least some other people are aware of how insanely disgraceful and disrespectful the upcoming Snow White movie is going to be. It’s essentially the film that made Disney and they’re using it to push narratives and cgi slop instead of paying tribute to this incredible industry changing movie.

[@Steve-e3v6e]

i really think some blame really needs to be put on the audience who come to see this slop, at this point i can't even blame disney for wanting to continue to make these garbage remakes cause audiences keep coming to see them and earn them money. the reality is general audiences don't care if the remakes suck, they'll gladly come come to watch these "live action" remakes cause in their eyes its safer and less risky to watch something that's based on something you like then to watch something new and original

[@kingofhelllucifer1626]

First thing, I entirely agree with the fact that this upcoming Snow White remake is just slop that shouldn't exist, and I do believe it is disrespectful by implying live action is better than animation, this shit truly pisses me off. Disney has also been pretty creatively bankrut for a while and is only interested in expanding already existing properties it owns or simply buying new ones (Blue Sky studio stuff and Fox stuff come to mind in recent times). It's honestly a pretty shit company that is really trying to gain a monopoly in the entertainment industry, and it is quite scary to think that this is just a general trend in a lot of different markets. However, can we stop pretending Disney has any agenda whatsoever, it's really tiring, especially since people are missing the forest for the trees over meaningless culture war BS. Disney is a company first and foremost and tries to maximize profits, that's why it's been so lazy with remakes and sequels recently: why risk not making a lot of money with something new and creative when you know that people will eat up stuff they already know. So if they're "pushing" anything, it's because it knows it'll do well, or at the very least not hurt their brand, the minute they receive backlash, they'll stop, that's it. They're just pandering, but only because they sense they can turn a profit with it, and if they sense that, that means most people they target either are okay with or don't care about said messaging, so it's not so much pushing a message as them repeating stuff that is safe and not controversial. You can be annoyed, by it, not like it and feel that it's shallow identity politics (which it is), but saying they push narratives implies that they have any vision whatsoever, which they clearly don't given that they're creatively bankrupt. Apologies if that was long, I'm getting pretty annoyed by those comments that I see everywhere and who clearly are getting a weird picture of what Disney is and what's truly wrong with this shit company, so I had to get this off my chest somewhere.

[@joshuatewolde1837]

“Gotta Go FAST!” “Don’t Tell Me THAT’S Your Catchphrase!” “THAT’S RIGHT, New Hedgehog, & Everyone LOVES It!”

[@emmanuelmcdaddie5165]

If they make a live action frozen olaf will look terrifying

[@TristanBonsi]

If that happens Just don’t watch it geez, no need to be a full critic about it

[@RoundBear-re9kd]

They'll give him human eyes and he'll look like a chimera

[@TristanBonsi]

@RoundBear-re9kd That’s literally the point of live action, Live action isn’t meant to bring a 3D character and just put it into the real world like Tom and Jerry did, because It’s not realistic to look like it could be in our world, besides don’t you 13 year olds or higher know better to understand what the writers are doing then the kids do?

[@RoundBear-re9kd]

@@TristanBonsi no need to be so aggressive about it its just a joke

[@TristanBonsi]

@RoundBear-re9kd I don’t get how that is a joke when it looks like y’all are literally being serious, but okay…

[@itsjust_zak217]

I searched it up on google and i have a feeling they have a bias with mufasa, it shows mufasa's best month and it shows Sonic's worst month (which isnt even bad)

[@MilkNCheeseYT]

Mufasa isn't that bad, but it isn't better than sonic 3, hell it might not be better than sonic 1 😭

[@PAT.OS96]

I haven't seen a single video on tiktok about Mufasa. I rest my case.

[@howuseehim]

Jim doing a third entry willingly is unheard of 😂

[@horseridinggirl121]

Never been this early. ✨ Fact remains my friends and I have been watching box office numbers since sonic came out

[@MarioTuzzo-s7h]

Both movies were very good. Disney obviously spent more on CGI, no wonder they are pissed.

[@JPOG7TV]

You know sonic costed 12 million more than mufasa

[@MarioTuzzo-s7h]

@@JPOG7TV really? Didn't think so, because it seemed like Disney used more CGI.

[@Kohchu]

I think more important than which beat what; is the question of: Which one is reviewing better. Sonic 3 is being praised and sung heroic for the interesting take on a beloved gaming classic, taking it in a direction that fans are loving and pushing towards making things better for the future. Mufasa meanwhile carries the tradition of Disney Live Action films being less enjoyable then the animated ones; and most people claiming it's basically a worse version of the Lion King 1 1/2. In the future; one of these movies will be remembered, while one of them will be laughed at.

[@Pancakelover843-p4q]

6:13 POKÉMON SUN AND MOON MUSIC USED SUBSCRIBER GAINED

[@OriGuyOriginal]

Sonic: wins by rolling really fast into his enemies Disney: generates power from the number of rotations Walt Disney's corpse makes while rolling in his grave

[@WilsTube]

heres an idea instead of complaining about Disney’s same tired crap over and over again, it’s called stop watching them.

[@JPOG7TV]

People want their cake and to eat it. KZbinrs want to moan about bad movies because they get paid to do it.

[@kneelessnightcat9164]

I don't watch it AND complain, then what?

[@fnaffoxy1987]

@@kneelessnightcat9164 People then say you can't complain if you haven't seen it. It's a no-win scenario that happens a lot.

[@bladeinthesmint5995]

Oh trust me, I have, I just like watching people tell me that I made the right decision

[@Goomba1309]

​@@fnaffoxy1987 Facts, I really hate that perspective and will always hate it. Like, how the hell are people supposed to criticize it then? You watch it and criticize, and people will tell you "StOp WaTcHiNg It", but then you don't watch it and criticize, and people will tell you "YoU cAn'T jUdGe iT, yOu HaVeN't SeEn It"...

[@1wayroad935]

Everyone just casually forgetting that Moana 2 made nearly a billion dollars, huh?

[@Steve-e3v6e]

oh yeah moana 2 i forget that exist

[@sboylers]

9:22 honestly I’d rather use that hypothetical time to watch Sonic 3 again 😂

[@shacharlem4424]

To be honest, the Lilo and Stitch live action remake looks promising so far. There are some changes like nani being a straight a student and the death of nani and lilo's parents happening years before the film, it seems it will be quite faithful to the original story (considering the writer, director and voice of stitch in the original movie, chris sanders voices stitch once again and as someone who even is involved just as an actor, I'm confident to say I'm sure that just like matpat and the fnaf movie, he people came to him for quality check.

[@chrissumpton1503]

Speaking about Lilo and Stitch what if Disney made an original 2D film about Lilo and Nani's parents meeting and alien and blah blah blah, I think it would be a better-than mediocre movie.

[@tommothepomo9395]

My dyslexia ahh thought the title was No, sonic 3 did NOT beat mufasa

[@AndrewMj-uz5vi]

sonic already has beat mufasa and will beat it a lot more

[@Ratscallion_exe]

>Movie Sonic was raised by an owl & isekai'ed, wins "World's Healthiest Sonadow Social Link" award >Tails was backseating the 1st movie >Dr. Robotnik **was** a non-existent war criminal shutting down uprisings that "never happened" >Commander Walters sends an orphan to do his job, gets "Maria'd" by the same family. >Tom shoots a hedgehog with tranquiliser >Wade almost guns down Dr. Robotnik with a gunshot >The only Gerald who lived long enough to tell his grandson "****** off" >Goat Milkman is also a war criminal >Shadow casually teleports *>Movie Knuckles is the only known Idris Trigger in existence, he just HAD to solo an entire demon to become a harbinger of potential cataclysm (Don't tell any Blaze) IN A SPIN-OFF*

[@Tacitus_Kilgore_1904]

Yeah Mufasa have made more money, but Sonic 3 is a better movie overall

[@Austin-zc9gp]

True, because we also have to remember just because a movie makes a lot of money doesn’t mean it’s a good movie.

[@AndrewMj-uz5vi]

no mufasa has not made more u liar

[@guineveredawn]

Ahh I digress but thanks for using the Tarrey Town theme!

[@michaelgaming3291]

The only good disney movies of 2024 in my opinion are Moana 2 And Inside Out 2

[@CousinGreek]

It's the fact that the Sonic movies were worked on by people that have love for the franchise. The director Jeff Fowler worked on Shadow the Hedgehog 05 and has always stayed true to the plot/character of Sonic and as a fan you can TELL THAT The small details and references to so many games in the movies is astounding--I was jumping out of my seat and pointing at the screen over and over when my husband and I saw Sonic 3 bc I recognized call backs to the games in the lines and music and visuals No one asked for Disney to revive a 20+ year old IP to make a quick buck while banking on nostalgia to drive the numbers

[@darkstalkerknight63]

Mufasa made 476 million to sonic 3 336 million. looks like More people wanted Mufasa then sonic 3.

[@Pinefr0st]

I saw Sonic 3 twice. Mufasa was... Okay but nothing memorable and the story they chose just felt like it wasn't Lion King material.

[@joshuaW5621]

If David Zaslav ran Paramount, he would’ve not only written off the Sonic movie, he also would have written off the Sandy Cheeks movie as well.

[@taducduy2007]

I really don't understand why audiences could be so stupid as to go see that Live Action/CGI movie to help Disney make a profit and continue making other bad Live Action remake movies.

[@artbytesia]

Yeah, that's why I'm boycotting all of Disney's future live-action remakes.

[@mttylerdurden9]

Maybe people actually interested in the movie, maybe they have different opinions on stuff than you? Crazy right?

[@lehashura490]

The Mufasa movie is hilarious to me: They started making direct to video awful movies, They replaced it with live action remakes, And now they're fusing the two: bad live action remake sequels.

[@PichusBlueberryPies]

Direct To Video movies were pretty meh with Winnie The Pooh having all of the good ones some of which getting theatrical releases, but thankfully the Direct To Video stuff is gone, and as for Live Action Remakes they just won’t stop especially with the success of the CGI remake of The Lion King. Let’s just hope these remakes either stop or be made with reasonable quality.

[@austygo3563]

Lion king in the style of Pixar animation would have been cool

[@intergalactic92]

From what I can tell, one of them is doing better in America but the other is winning globally. Currently on raw numbers (according to box office Mojo) Sonic 3 has made 336.5 million (186 million domestically), whilst Mufasa has made 476 million (168 million domestically). Which can still change, I’m sure, they’re both still being shown. If we're going to get annoyed with Disney about twisting the stats, let’s not leave out any figures either. Americans are not the only people who matter. Like it or not, It's not the demolition we were hoping for.

[@IsleofPigsStudios]

Movie 2 got me to play my first Sonic game (coincidentally being Sonic 2. The mobile port to be specific). I saw Movie 3 in theaters and it was an amazing experience. I haven’t even watched any of the Live Action Disney movies, the closest thing was clips online of Lion King. Literally what’s the point if I’ve already seen the superior originals? I don’t intend on seeing Mufasa either, it’s just an unnecessary movie. I’d rather watch Sonic 3 again. I’d rather get Sonic 3 on DVD or Blu-Ray and have all 3 Sonic movies on DVD. I know Streaming is more convenient, but I don’t want to worry about Sonic being pulled from a streaming service. Even if Modern DVD menus aren’t as good as DVD menus were before, I still rather have an option just in case streaming isn’t available, and I’d rather watch a movie I love no worries, than have the option for a Movie I won’t even watch.

[@bigweenie7225]

Mufasa was basically: "Mom, can we have Transformers One?" "Nah, we got Transformers One at home." Transformers One at home:

[@LarryHayward-v7p]

Weekend actuals for #SonicMovie3 came once again higher at US Box Office, now just 3.1M away from becoming the highest grossing Sonic Film - what will happen Tonight. Domestic Box Office is 187.7M Eyeing a 245M-270M run in the US.

[@anointilisque7768]

Unfortunely mufasa outgrossed sonic 3 internationaly, but it lost in the usa

[@byonty886]

the fact that mufasa globally is ahead of about 150 million but sonic hasn't released fully on global is still an insane achievement for sonic ngl

[@AndrewMj-uz5vi]

no it's not ur just kissing disneys butt

[@byonty886]

@AndrewMj-uz5vi bro I'm saying that sonic is doing amazing compared to mufasa 🤨

[@MacStyran]

I ... just realized how much Dazz sounds like Timon. Now dress in drag and do the hula!

[@SquareCircleGames]

Dazz, where's the Wallace and Gromit review?

[@creato938]

Oh, i'm sad to hear they are going to remake Hercules, it was one of my favorite Disney movies growing and and the PS1 game was awesome.

[@PichusBlueberryPies]

It’s a shame too that this keeps happening. I heard that Toy Story 2 was a good game on Nintendo 64 and I didn’t play it yet so I may pick it up since I love the movies back before Toy Story 4 came.

[@EliRobGaming]

I went to Sonic the hedgehog 3 today... I can see why it destroyed Mufasa

[@ItzAdrian02]

Destroyed in box office? Mufasa has made more

[@Dosborreguitoscondoscabezas]

​@@ItzAdrian02And? It sucked

[@maikayee246]

It made more

[@RavenGamingOverLord]

@@ItzAdrian02 Wrong

[@Eniggma39]

Movie Sonic looks so good that I forgot that his arms not supposed to be blue lmao. It just makes sense.

[@tedothegamerbg6593]

Go and play Shadow Generations brother, you wont be disappointed.

[@BobbyTheDogGuy]

1. Mufasa made more money, so it won. 2. The lions in mufasa were not photo realistic

[@RoseleneSamedi-or1ip]

It's false, this is false information. Mufasa has beat Sonic The Hedgehog both Domestic and Worldwide

[@AndrewMj-uz5vi]

no it hasn't disney fan boy

[@darkstalkerknight63]

@@AndrewMj-uz5vi yes it has.

[@AndrewMj-uz5vi]

what a liar u must really love that rubbish lion shit

[@darkstalkerknight63]

@@AndrewMj-uz5vi Mufasa made 476 million to sonic 3 336 million sonic 3 was out in canada and norway and a few other places on the 20th of dem. stop lying.

[@deringjosuegarcia1531]

I'm going to keep repeating this until people stop blindly looking at box office total and nothing else. Mufasa has a budget of 200 million USD, and a box office total of 476 million, Mufasa has made 2,38 times its cost. Sonic 3 has a budget of 122 million USD, and a box office total of 336 million, Sonic 3 has made 2,75 times its cost. Please stop looking at box office numbers in a vacuum.

[@lesliengo8347]

Mufasa and Sonic are at each other just because both were released on the same date.

[@Rhiannercakes]

Sonic still wins in my heart.

[@DragonStar524]

Disney being jealous and petty.

[@darkstalkerknight63]

for winning at the box office.

[@DragonStar524]

@darkstalkerknight63 didn't Sonic 3?

[@darkstalkerknight63]

@@DragonStar524 no sonic 3 lost. Mufasa made 476 million to sonic 3 336 million. sonic 3 was out in canada and norway and a few other places on the 20th of dem.

[@DragonStar524]

@darkstalkerknight63 which is just baffling to me. But can't complain about something you can't control.

[@deringjosuegarcia1531]

@@DragonStar524 Ignore this guy, he's responding to any comment that says anything negative about disney with the same "Actually, Mufasa made more money!" comment. He's not even right about Mufasa making more money in terms of profit. Mufasa made a box office total of 476 million USD with a budget of 200 million USD Sonic 3 made a box office total of 336 million USD with a budget of 122 million USD That means that Mufasa made 2,38 times its cost, while Sonic the Hedgehog 3 has made 2,75 times its cost.

[@Thomassillyadventure]

Don’t worry sonic fans/ Disney haters Disney will learn their lesson at the end of the day because even if Mufasa makes more money then Sonic 3 is more like their success because remember sonics budget was $122 million and it’s already making is money back because a lot of people love and recommend sonic 3 meanwhile Mufasa budget was $200 million so it didn’t make is money back yet how ever they would earn back less money than sonic at the end of the day is realizing that even if you have a higher budget that won’t easily make your movie a success a good story.Is what people want and as well as original characters and less be honest sonic is getting back on track because the games are getting better and even if they bring back older franchises doesn’t make your movie good and that’s what Disney needs to learn sure inside out 2 as well as Moana made them money manly inside out 2 an old but yet newer franchise doesn’t mean it makes you money is the story that people care about.

[@darkstalkerknight63]

Mufasa: The Lion King box office total is 476,169,282 Sonic the Hedgehog 3 box office total is 336,466,642 Mufasa made their money back a week ago.

[@deringjosuegarcia1531]

@@darkstalkerknight63 I already told in your own comment, but since you clearly keep ignoring it Considering budget and box office total, the actual difference is only 62 million, not even half of 140 million. Mufasa has made 2,38 times it cost Sonic 3 has made 2,75 times its cost. So in the end, Sonic the hedgehog 3 was more profitable. Can you stop spamming your comment everywhere on the comment section, you look desperate

[@Mirage475]

⁠​⁠You are literally lying. Mufasa cost 200 million and profited 275 million so far. Sonic 3 cost 122 and has profited 210 million. How are you that incapable of doing math?

[@maikayee246]

Two words Sour Grapes.

[@Sonkkiustopmotion]

​@Mirage475 your right and sonic 3 may have lost the battle it has won the war (This comment might get outdated but will have to see and find out)

[@Nao-dq2yt]

As Sonic would say, “Gotta go fast!”

[@TheWaterEaterOffical]

Shocker 🐟

[@RisingDragon1981]

disneys going to fade ina mediocre blaze unless it buys every studio and ip on the planet.

[@bluefox8011]

MufASSa more like

[@AndrewLake-gq8tt]

Sonic- Shitic

[@manoftruth0935]

Mufasa discs will rot on the shelves and go unplayed on Plus. Sonic will fly off the shelves at super sonic speeds.

[@doomsterr]

Mufasa has made more money.

[@AndrewMj-uz5vi]

no it hasn't u dork sonic 3 is beating everything g and mufasa is garbage

[@doomsterr]

@ Mufasa has made over 460 million while Sonic has made around 340 million. Cry harder

[@Chillguyplayz]

Damn

[@deringjosuegarcia1531]

@@doomsterr You are aware that budgets exist, right? With a budget of 200 million USD, and a box office total of 460 million, Mufasa has made 2,3 times its cost. With a budget of 122 million USD, and a box office total of 336 million, Sonic 3 has made 2,75 times its cost. So that means Sonic 3 is more profitable.

[@pluckyleon6640]

​@@AndrewMj-uz5vicope harder 🤣

[@Cozy_Misfit]

The Sonic movies made me feel like there was something on the line. It had a real story to tell The Mufasa movie just felt like a Nice Guy story told through lions :/

[@fatedflame4252]

yes it did, stop coping, how can the sonic franchise still be so toxic. You all started this stupid bit, wich was fun at first but then you keept it going for so long and absolutly no reason. I honestly think sonic fans deserves this. Just take the L instead of spreading unfounded misinformation

[@superlionrw]

we won’t take the L because you shouldn’t be letting go, it’s already yours.

[@deringjosuegarcia1531]

But it did? Remember that Mufasa has a budget of 200 and Sonic 3 has a budget of 122. So, if Mufasa made 476 and Sonic 3 made 336, it means Mufasa made 2,38 times its cost, while Sonic 3 made 2,75 times its cost. It means that while Mufasa made more money, it's still less profitable that Sonic 3.

[@Blueberryyymuffin]

THEY ARE MAKING A LIVE ACTION TANGLED?! NO!! I love Tangled 😢

[@Progamer1013]

This entire thing has just made me love Sonic 3 more and hate that stupid sad excuse for a Lion King “prequel” even more

[@rexellerainbow1173]

As someone who watched the sonic movie twice, as a part of my goals in 2k24, once at the end of the year and once at the start, I'll just say, worth it. Yes i did make watching a movie as my 2024 resolution, but also to keep me alive. Had to make it twice incase i wanted to die even after watching it the first time. It didn't, insyead it made me want to try 4dx for the first time and that was a blast! Anyways i do find both the times i went to watch it, the theaters were only half full. But maybe it's just because of the unfortunate timing. Senior high school students in my country are all sitting for very important exams right now. And I'm one of them lol. Couldn't ask my friends to join me as they're busy studying. I was anticipating watching this movie from the start of last year. And coming into 2025, i have absolutely no regrets lmao. (Yes I'll probably fail my exams but still worth it lol).

[@irishrandomer5497]

I think people will forget Mufasa in the long run, Sonic 3 tho, even if you dont want to talk about sonic in anyway and talk about the actors, how did this film break Jim Careys no sequel rule after he said he was also retiring, its pulling big names like Idris Elba and Keanu Reeves. The first film was going going to be a flop then they listened to the fans. It also shows that changing things up from previous incarnations of established characters does not detract the public. Disneys only chance i feel to get anything close to this type of success and with this style, animated realistic style, is with Lilo and Stitch, but they will have to take the realistic part out, which i doubt because it's basically their brand now

[@MsCandyKush_YT]

Mufusa is dragging Sonic at the box office. Y'all just need to accept it.

[@Geheimnis-c2e]

I personally loved Sonic 3 but the thing that got me hyped up for more was the post-credits scene. I haven't been hyped up by a post-credits scene since the golden decade of the MCU! Sonic 4 will probably feature a romance subplot and I'm interested in how the Metal Sonics were made (wasn't he made by Robotnik in the Sonic games? I'm not entirely hot on the Sonic lore)

[@chrissumpton1503]

My theory is that some how hard boiled egg (grandfather eggman) time travelled from how much power that wall had and he was able to build an army of robot Sonic before Sonic arrived on Earth and he waited until then to release some of them or they decided to appear then because hard boiled egg is oooooollllllllddddd and he could of died.