Brass Comparison (Cinematic Studio Brass, Modern Scoring Brass, Angry Brass, Sample Modeling Brass)

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Daniel Beijbom

Daniel Beijbom

Күн бұрын

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@snarf1504
@snarf1504 3 жыл бұрын
2:13 - Modern Scoring Brass (full mix) 2:53 - Angry/Caspian/SM brass (full mix) 3:24 - Cinematic Studio Brass (full mix) 4:17 - Modern Scoring Brass (brass only) 5:24 - Angry/Caspian/SM brass (brass only) 4:41 - Cinematic Studio Brass (brass only)
@brianmichaelfuller
@brianmichaelfuller 3 жыл бұрын
These all sound fantastic because of how amazing your orchestration and composition is!! Great job.
@dk60ish
@dk60ish 3 жыл бұрын
I agree, which made it hard to judge first time around, but my choice would be Modern Scoring Brass, which gives you your money's worth!
@slimyelow
@slimyelow Жыл бұрын
They all sound massive and bombastic. CSB will be my favorite once i get my grubby hands on it.
@romeocastillo7020
@romeocastillo7020 2 жыл бұрын
Bro, how are we supposed to be able to tell shit from this video. You're composing and mixing WELL beyond a professional level. Literally everything gonna sound good with u behind the keys.
@kllswtch-reampingmixingmas1910
@kllswtch-reampingmixingmas1910 3 жыл бұрын
I liked Angry Brass and Sample Modeling the most, but the others also sound good. Good comparison, Daniel! Thanks.
@ASX2001
@ASX2001 Ай бұрын
one of the best fanfares I ever heard, great composition
@studio_musique_audionomie
@studio_musique_audionomie 2 жыл бұрын
Great ! Possible to have the midi please ?
@nRGmusicproduction
@nRGmusicproduction 3 жыл бұрын
I must admit your combination of SM and Angry Brass sounds best. Thanks for the video Daniel!
@VenomEmperor
@VenomEmperor Жыл бұрын
They all sounded great and it’s now a matter of personal taste which you’d want more. MSB - brighter but thinner sound Angry/Caspian/SM - brighter and more pointed sound CSB - wider and more controlled sound Personally I’d choose CSB but again, they all sounded wonderful.
@RicoDerks
@RicoDerks 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! Love the combo you made with caspian and angry brass!
@gogamusic
@gogamusic 3 жыл бұрын
I like the bite and the attack of modern scoring brass thanks
@VadimKupriyanov
@VadimKupriyanov 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Why one tuba used instead of different?
@NoamLevyMusic
@NoamLevyMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Discovered your channel today, top notch mockups.

 I think the trumpets in MSB sound great, and Angry Brass Trumpet Soloist (+ SM The Trumpet) is even better. It brings much more excitement to the piece than the CSB trumpets which don't quite get to the same level. However, with the horns, I like CSB better than the other options. They have a swashbuckling boldness & a rich golden tone that sounds very "Hollywood" to me.
@MrIanGrom
@MrIanGrom 3 жыл бұрын
How much new drawing of CC’s and re-recording of parts did you have to do between libraries to get relatively identical performances to the original MSB version? And around what ranges of CC11 or CC 1 are you in for SM trumpet and PS libraries when you are writing this upper range cutting type of stuff?
@scorepiano
@scorepiano 3 жыл бұрын
Combination! MSB best dynamics, CSB thick sound, AB brighter, also you may add FORZO and some things of SSB.
@adamz3090
@adamz3090 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting comparison! Personally I prefer the combinations of different libraries here, especially because the SM Trumpet. Its soo standing out from the mass brass section and adds another level to the realism with its shiny, edgy character. Second place is MSB for my taste and 3. is CSB.
@ownlifedanny
@ownlifedanny 2 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see your processing of the samplemodeling and angry brass! I have both libraries, but I can't make it sound as awesome!!!
@ld7724
@ld7724 3 жыл бұрын
Great comparison! In my ears MSB sounds the best, but also Angry Brass combined SM sounds great! Right now I'm using Century Brass, but your video makes me reconsider my current usage. Do you have some opinion about Infinite Brass as well?
@franckbass
@franckbass 5 ай бұрын
Hello Daniel, great video and composing ! IF you had to choose between Angry brass or MSB (and CSB as well), which one would you keep ? I know they all have their colors/ qualities and defaults, but I'm struggling between those 2, and cant make my choice...After spending time with Spitfire BBCOrchestra , Albion One + Cinebrass, I definitley think I need something else when it comes to Brass libraries (not to mention writing and arrangement is 99% of the job of course ) , but this "bite", especially on short staccato notes isn't easy to achieve...I also noticed Perfromance Samples has done "Fluid Brass" in partnership with Audio Imperia, but It might be kinda cheap. Once again, I know "magical" libraries don't exist and learning to use the one you got is crucial...Thanks in advance
@dbeijbom
@dbeijbom 5 ай бұрын
Thanks! :) Ok so since you have bbc orchestra, albion 1 and cinebrass, I would choose Angry Brass. Its the only library that feels different from the ones you already have. CSB and MSB are terrific, but the sound is closer to cinebrass. So if I had to pick just one I would go with angry brass to get another sound quality in my template. Again it depends what your needs are. For fast staccato bite you wont get that with angry brass. But cinebrass already has that more or less. So yeah if it was up to me, I'd go with angry brass. Best of luck!
@franckbass
@franckbass 5 ай бұрын
@@dbeijbom thanks a lot Daniel! I appreciate ! Cheers
@thesaint7380
@thesaint7380 3 жыл бұрын
Great writing ! MSB clearly sounds the best, realistic, balanced, like a real recording. The other two are not bad, but rather sharp and thin, with less convincing dynamics.
@ScottGlasgowMusic
@ScottGlasgowMusic 3 жыл бұрын
MSB sounds better then expected. I'll have to check those out.
@joonj
@joonj Жыл бұрын
This is amazing!! All expressions done just by a keyboard or other tools?
@tosvus
@tosvus 3 жыл бұрын
Hmm this is tricky, wish you would talk about the effort needed to get the sound out of each though! That's almost more important to me at this point than pure quality. (If I can reach 90% of the result with 50% of the effort...). I currently own CineBrass (complete), Spitfire Studio Brass Pro, Berlin Orchestra (including brass, but the berklee version with only 1 mic), Hollywood Orchestra (2 mic positions) and of course a bunch of other more ensemble type ones. I can get a good deal on JXL (I guess it is called Tom Holkenborg Brass now :)) and I am also considering Infinite Brass (I own infinite woodwinds) and getting into the Cinematic Studio Series. I'm somewhat drawm more to getting the cinematic studio series (as everyone raves about them, and I don't own any, plus they are supposedly easy to play). However, in this example, I probably would put my preference on your other two alternatives in terms of quality.
@chaddonal4331
@chaddonal4331 2 жыл бұрын
Dude! Use what you have!! You have made extraordinary investments already! (But if you need one more, Holkenberg's seems impressive!)
@vicfirth1
@vicfirth1 3 жыл бұрын
Very nice comparison video, thank you for sharing this. I do wish you would have said your opinion though.
@NikolaiMusicChannel
@NikolaiMusicChannel 3 жыл бұрын
Great comparison :-) Remembered hearing Reaching the summit while considering MSB a couple of months ago, and really love your composition. Ended up buying MSB, so take that as a compliment ;-) I like MSB so far, will put it through the motions in a bigger mock up of a piece I just composed, will be it's first real trial. Liked your combination group too, for a more angry tone, if that is what one wants. CSB sounded okey-ish here, but as always when I hear CSB demos I think it sounds a bit sterile and dull and sometimes synthy, although not as much in this demo. Would love to see the score for this piece to learn from :-)
@fabulousk9014
@fabulousk9014 3 жыл бұрын
How do you double the trumpets patches? Do you use 2-4 solo patches or an ensemble?
@MrCheesusrice
@MrCheesusrice 8 ай бұрын
Red. They all sounded good. Red boy for these ears
@saro2431
@saro2431 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing Content, Daniel! Will you upload some adventure music walkthrough in the near future? :) "Running of the Bulls"?
@ernzzz
@ernzzz 3 жыл бұрын
MSB sounds more Shiny and perhaps a bit more realist/closer to an orchestra, CSB is a bit Warmer/less shouty, and more Inteligible.. Angry/Caspian/SM has a nice timbre too, but it's a bit too Bright for my taste, and has considerably more reverb.. I would take MSB over Angry/Caspian/SM any day; bright but very good and realist, a good middle term. However I'm unsure about CSB vs MSB.. both are great in their own way!
@georgeguerrette
@georgeguerrette 3 жыл бұрын
Nice stuff! For this type of orchestral intensity, CSB blew MSB out of the water. And then, your Angry Brass+Caspian Horns+SM was superior to them all!
@jaketanner109
@jaketanner109 3 жыл бұрын
I preferred the combination brass...Performance Samples is great! SM is also quite good...sounded most realistic to me. CSB was the worst for me...very thin and small sounding (and not just because it was lower in volume).
@MrTsetso
@MrTsetso 3 жыл бұрын
Berlin Brass is the best!
@snarf1504
@snarf1504 3 жыл бұрын
Even for FFF?
@-Meric-
@-Meric- 3 жыл бұрын
For shorts yeah it's fine. For legato they're adding an update soon that adds a new FFF layer
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