DBG: Let's See The Damage: No Oil Pressure, In 769 HP 409ci Ford 351 Cleveland= ET 9.37 Result: Fail

This video cracked me up when Izzy and I were making it. Its the blooper in the beginning. This video documents DragBoss, and the Bossettes pulling down the bottom end of the 769 hp 409ci Ford 351 Cleveland. I give my opinion on modifying my current oil system, Dry/External wet sump, bracing new oil pick up, and keeping the same combo, My oiling mods work, proven on dyno, and track, only failing point was pick up. At this point, I am sending my oil pan to Stefs, and get a much better designed Aluminum oil pan/pick up, made for my application, with baffles, trap doors. We remove the Doug Garifo, Precision Oil Pumps, HV Melling unit. They also supplied the oil pump stud kit, and billet oil pump drive shaft. We remove the windage tray, and will not be replacing it. Darin Morgan told me he felt they loose HP. It may have contributed, may not have enough clearance between them. Next off is the main girdle. And then the main caps, overall you can see crank and rods are cooked, Coated Calico main, and Rod Bearings however were not that bad overall, Box up oil pan, and pump, and get these shipped to Stef's. Heard today from Bob, Beach, we are going to get this back together, at 82, he is coming out of retirement to help me get the 409 Cleveland back together. I will get crank out, and it evaluated, we will film the rebuild series at Beach Performance. This will be epic, can it come out and run 9.20s in the fall? What do you think
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where your always seeing and learning something new"

[@johnsalvaterra3116]

Hello Tim ! Those coated bearings appeared to have saved you from a worse scenario. I am impressed.

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Yes they had to have saved me some. I will get them again. Thanks for the 20 bucks. It will go towards the rebuild John. Thanks again my friend

[@lykinsmotorsports]

Coated bearings for the win! I always use them!

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Brent, crazy this happened. But will use them again.

[@rodcoulter8164]

I like it that you have your kids helping you that way they can learn while they're young does extremely important

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Thanks so much. Yes they need to learn the things they will never will learn in school. I teach old school

[@geneticrex]

My philosophy has always been to do whatever I could to improve the overall package whenever I was faced with any sort of setback. The thought of coming back even better gave me something to really look forward to and took some sting out of issue.

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Geneticrex, you got that right. I have learned a ton and now will implement what I have learned. Hope others learned something from my mistakes. 9.20s here we come.

[@geneticrex]

@@DragBoss351Cleveland There's always places to pick up something and a properly constructed pan with the correct amount of oil is worth quite a bit in a wet sump configuration.

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

@geneticrex figuring that, at this point, definitely an investment and improvement from what I have been using.

[@michaelclanton1152]

To me it looks like the crank could go .010"under and be fine for another engine I was supposed the bearings were not cooked more. Great VIDEO DBG.

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Thanks Michael. I was sure surprised too. I will see what crank guy says. I have to find his name. Arlen or something from MI I think?

[@rickcarmichael4661]

I give some credit to the Brad Penn oil. Good base stocks and additives kept the bearings in the saddles. Lol

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

I agree 💯Rick, definitely made a difference. Glad you’re here.

[@rolandtamaccio3285]

Amazing that it went the 9.37 ,,, !

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Roland, it’s a cleveland😉, one time dropped a cylinder from valve and cracked block. Car went 10.16 on 7 cylinders. Glad you’re here. You Need to do a live chat with me

[@peterschaefer2946]

all good mate steffs pans i was very lucky to meet joe many years ago you will be in good hands

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Thanks Peter, appreciate the positive insight. Need to get packed and sent.

[@arkhsm]

Coated bearings for the win !!

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Dam straight Adrian

[@joemateo9]

Great video. Really enjoyed it. Liked that you had your 2 little helpers, the "Bossettes" leading a hand. Great teaching moments for them. I hope to have a project car that I will work on in the future with my son & grandkids. Hope everything works out for you. Keep the videos coming when you have time. Blessings from Texas...🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Thanks Joe from Texas. Yes they are getting into engine and car work. Yes get that project car, you only live once, don’t pass it up

[@strokermaverick]

Younger and older sister banter, priceless!😀

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

You are so right. Sometimes I don’t even hear it. One day I will miss it.

[@FLfoxlife-zv6fh]

Yeah that definitely got to hot with all the blueing on the crank.I think you're on the right track. Good job guys and gals keep up the good work.

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Got hot as a tin roof in Texas. Great to have help in DBG, get r done

[@JoeBlow-dn9tn]

Could have been a whole lot worse. Didn't destroy the block or crank. That's the only good thing. Sorry Tim bad parts suck!

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Thanks Joe, you are dead on that statement. We got this.

[@arkhsm]

Still get the block crack tested Tim ! Can't think of too many engines staying together with no oil pressure at 8300rpm !!

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

I probably won’t test nothing. Looks killer clean and no obvious cracks. It’s a cleveland mate, we will be back soon. 😉

[@mavman351]

I am in shock still since it happened man, all the years spent on getting the car right and then the unthinkable! Looking forward to the rebuild and to the Mustang singing some sweet blue oval music! Blessings your way. DBG for the win!!

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Me too. But it happens and I will deal with it. Working to get things apart and rebuild full steam ahead. Mustang needs some lovin too

[@adambergendorff2702]

Sorry to see all the damage from that pickup.

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Tell me about it Adam. Made me sick but recovering slowly, 🙂

[@MsKatjie]

Good to see you back Tim. And yes, I bet that pissed you off. But the engine will be better next time. Thanks for showing us all, how it is done. Cheers.

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Appreciate you mate. Yes I was pissed, but now back in the game. More on the way

[@laurafreeze2861]

Glad to see you back Tim. I can tell you from my hobbies, sometimes you just have to step away for awhile and let the brain relax and forget about it. regroup an come back with a fresh look on things will get better. Since i have been following you i have noticed a whole lot of Cleveland motorers and parts an the Sandusky an Norwalk Facebook marketplace.

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Yes Laura, that is it. I need to walk away for a bit. Also had so much yard work and family outings, DBG can wait. I love to at everything for sale. Never know what you will find.

[@laurafreeze2861]

@@DragBoss351Cleveland ooooh yea, this time of year in north central Ohio yard work never stops. plus, yard sales everywhere

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

@@laurafreeze2861 we have so much stuff that do not use, should have a garage sale for sure.

[@laurafreeze2861]

@@DragBoss351Cleveland me to. I no longer do wood working an i have all kinds of saws just setting in my garage just in the way. so much stuff i havent used in years. could have a big yard sale.

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

@@laurafreeze2861 Yes kids are growing, and so many toys they don't use. Extra tools, and lots of stuff. have to see how it goes, thanks Laura, stay tuned

[@bobwhite4344]

rods and their journals developed significant bluing. seems great bearings and oil paid off with no structural failure.

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

You’re right on Bob W. Luckily no explosion damage.

[@dondotterer24]

Thanks for the videos. I know you won't stop. You got some great things coming up!

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Thanks Don, way more that will blow your mind. Trust me

[@dondotterer24]

Wow I wouldn't have guessed those rods got that hot. But now we know.

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Me either Don. Hope the crank is good. We soon will find out.

[@dougjennings297]

You got some good helpers there, sir.

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Yes sir Doug. Great helpers, and fun to have help in DBG.

[@jesse75]

Love your channel. Love your family. Love your truth. I'm Ford guy. Did over 500 engines over the years. Had my own shop. Customer blew up a BBC in a boat. Pickup tube feel off. If I ever did a Chevy, always brazed it on. If I were going to run an expensive Cleveland, I'd run a motor plate and use a rear sump. Get rid of the shock towers and suspension. The pickup tube is also going to be bolted to one of the main caps. Also, when I built figure 8 racing Cleveland engines to run at Monroe Washington, I ran two oil pressure gauges. One off the front of the block and one off the rear. Side note. Has to do with 4v heads, dot or not. I was looking through all my heads. A pair of 1971 boss 351 heads I have has no dot, just a big 4 in the corner. Anyone else find this ?

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

All good info Jesse, running the plate, shock towers cut back. As far as 4v heads go. The dots and all the bs means nothing just casting info. 4 is for 4v usually.

[@nhra7110]

Sorry for your mishap Tim, but I would say you are pretty fortunate to not have spun any bearings and done a whole lot more damage!

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

I am so lucky. Real teaching moment right there. We will get it back in the game.

[@johnelliott7375]

We will not forget your name or channel.

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Please don’t John. Keep on keeping on my friend

[@buddyrags1040]

I've learned alot from your videos and I thank you for that..

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

You’re most welcome. And way more on the way. Thanks Buddy

[@billfioretti3013]

Tim, you already proved what works and it worked for years. Stick with it. Rethink only what bit you...and that really ain't much. Endeavor always to prove yourself right rather than prove others wrong. Kitty will be back as strong or stronger than ever. You, Your Family and Your supporters will see to it. K.T.F. and to that person that thinks DragBoss Garage is winding down, WRONG, Tim and Team DragBoss may just surprise you with what's to come. B.T.W. Supporters T-shirts are great but there's something that can be even greater.😉👍

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Thanks my brother. Yes I always keep the faith. It’s what gets us through the tough times. Sometimes you just need a break away. Have 1k new stickers coming. 200 of previous ones. Also Mrs DragBoss is working on the shirts. Way more In store. Great info last nights Lake said that guy was on💯🇺🇸🏁

[@billfioretti3013]

@@DragBoss351Cleveland Yeah, right Tim. Those who know me best agree. "Bill, you're on" (something.)🤣 Jokes aside, Nothing can replace experience. More to come from DragBoss and Family. Stay tuned.

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

@billfioretti3013 you can’t beat experience. Yes there is way more on the way.

[@benrossbach6501]

Dragets garage replacing drag boss coming soon. Nice job mom and dad.

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Yes sir Ben, working on it and keeping the Bossettes happy and working.

[@edsmachine93]

First off Tim, you have some great helpers in the shop. They are getting in on the ground floor of some good experience. I glad that your engine is not hurt to bad. Should cleanup pretty good. I am thinking, torque the rods up, and check the housing bores. I bet they are small. Which would deminish rod bearing clearance. It will be interesting to see what you find. Definitely new bolts and a recon of the rods. I would check the pistons, pin bores and rods bushings also. As there was no splash lubrication. For pistons and pins. Atleast you have a fixable engine. You will be running better in no time Tim. Have a great week. 👍

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Thanks Ed. Not messing with rods, I will replace. Crank. I will get evaluated, but get another. I will use it somewhere along the line. Yes they are beginning to enjoy working on stuff In DBG. This is the time they learn the most. Thanks for the advice. Stay tuned and see what is next.

[@dondotterer24]

Yep the awesome new oil pan is going to be more reliable and make a few HP.

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

That’s what I figured Don. May be worth a bit.

[@bryancondrey6457]

Wonderful to witness patience with your girls. If you are lucky, they will pick up some of your mechanical passion. I wish you good luck with your rebuild.

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Thanks for Noticing, I sure hope they do. Be much easier to have some help In the future. 👍

[@dennisthomas4766]

Pull the rod bearing out of the connecting rod cap and see if the saddle is burnt, if so off to the machine shop to have rods reconditioned

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Not worth it too me Dennis. Rather have new rods. May get a crank too and have current one evaluated. Crank may clean with 10 under

[@dennisthomas4766]

@@DragBoss351Cleveland How are the saddles for the Main Bearings because if they are burnt whether caps or block the block will need align bored because the bearings won't last????

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

@@dennisthomas4766 My builder will eval. He said bring it down, and lets get going on it, for being bad, the bearings look good.

[@dennisthomas4766]

@@DragBoss351Cleveland I'm glad you caught it in time

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

@@dennisthomas4766 me and you both.

[@teddysgunshop2318]

Nice to see you both sorry about your motor

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

No worries Ken. We all learned from it. We will be back on track, thanks for the support.

[@kevinschreiner9182]

Training the next generation of engine builders. I love it.

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Trying to spark the interest. It’s catching on slowly

[@terryenyart5838]

Life is a learning experience & we all learn everyday in one way or another. Good luck getting everything back together & be faster😊

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Every day is a school day Terry. We sure will, come on 9.20

[@sherrylockhart305]

It is always good to learn something ! 😅

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Man that is the truth. Every day is a school day

[@stacetriebwasser6425]

The only thing to do is take a bad situation, learn from it, and come back better!!

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

That’s the ticket, your on the money 💰

[@nonenone1249]

That sucks when they break but the up side is they come back meaner and faster.you just move around the weakest link..you know how it goes sometimes..I would polish the crank and a set of bearings and send it myself if thats the worst of it...ha

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Thinking that too. New set of rods. Maybe a crank. Can always use one. Sending soon

[@rickyshouseofcrap8600]

WOW

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Right, double WOW from me.

[@drcolster]

As you said Tim, take the crank to Shaftec, they will crack test, xray, what they do in this instance...If it goes .010 .010 , its not a big issue.. get same rods, it will be a tickle on the rebalance.... It Lived though, not a Big Hand Granade...

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Dam straight on that. Agreed. Was think about that guy in Toledo or Mi who does a lot of cranks. Arlen or something. Know him?

[@drcolster]

@@DragBoss351Cleveland Tim, i'm in Australia Bro... you will find a shop, i've seen cranks worse that that come out ok...

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

@drcolster that’s the plan, get it evaluated and have plan B ready. Spare crank for this or another build. Thanks Mate

[@rebekahfrench5747]

Have broken them off when removing a pump but that really sux.. the joys of building motors is all experimental..

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Yep nothing is concrete. Have to adapt and improve. Still joyful

[@dondotterer24]

If you have to hone it and you have more clearance than you like. You can send the pistons to Line to Line coating. Lake has a video I think.

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Don current pistons have coatings, already. I doubt the bore by the looks is worn that bad. I used calico coatings.

[@dondotterer24]

You might have seen Steve Morris video on Sick week where he threw the oil pump belt off and didn't know it. He made 1 and 1/2 runs. They basically had to fresh it up and back at it. I couldn't believe it.

[@arkhsm]

And no oil pressure warning light hooked up ?!

[@dondotterer24]

@@arkhsm no

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Wow did not see that episode. Have to ck it out.

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Nope never had one.

[@dannylee9138]

I would like to get those rods if you decide to let them go

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

For what? I was going to keep one wall hanger.

[@nottelling620]

HI TIM , I felt very bad about your motor however your body was not. Its so nice to see your daughters and wife helping/supporting you. A quick question , WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT MAKING A 2 BOLT CLEVELAND BLOCK INTO A 4 BOLT , 1970CLEVELAND? I got 2 very seasoned enging builders saying you don t need it , another says you do. Good luck with the new build on your engine , I enjoy your channel , learning a lot. GOD BLESS CIAO

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Thanks you. Appreciate your comments. I have an awesome family. I would not waste your time converting. My engine is a 2 bolt main. If anything I would invest in billet caps. Ciao thanks for the blessings

[@coffeecan7440]

Haters mean you are doing things right, brush them off and keep up the great work!

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Yes sir. He later apologized to me, multiple times. No worries, no time for that. Moving forward. Thanks for watching

[@craigtuck1741]

that is not as bad as it could of been Tim, hope to see the engine back in the car

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

You’re so right. Working on it, taking engine to my old builder Bob beach. You may have seen his videos I made. Thanks Craig

[@brentonk461ismylostaccount]

Cute intro 👍

[@chimpfoos65]

Just my thoughts I believe it would be a good idea to start the new mechanics out with hand tools to learn them the techniques like when we all started IN the day

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Good thoughts, we are going to put back together to take to my old builder. I will have her use some ratchets and sockets.

[@vanlarson9213]

I rebuilt a 1970 351 4V motor that came out of a Mach1. I replaced bearings and gaskets, cleaned up pistons, and replaced rings. I honed the cylinders lightly and just broke the glaze. I replaced the oil pump with a hi volume, big mistake. I used the stock oil pan and broke in my motor with low revs and baby it for one thousand miles. I changed oil and filter and went out to Baylands race way park. Made my first short shift pass with a 15:50 et. In my second pass, I raised rpm to 5500 and let her sing. I went through the traps with my engine, making a lot of ticketing noise. I took it out of gear and gave a little gas, and the noise was still persistent. I got home and pulled motor out, and dropped oil pan. Nothing but fine shavings everywhere, rods got hot because they were discolored. It was an 11.1 compression motor, and the pistons were touching the cylinder head. I put a for sale on the car and sold it as is, motor and all. I never bought another Ford again. In the upper left corner is my 2018 SS Camaro that has never given me any problems.

[@arkhsm]

Get back to us when your Camaro runs 9.36@142.49 naturally aspirated !!

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

To me issues with cleveland is drain back. None of the oil drain backs line up with heads. Do oil mods like I have, 9 qt pan and go. Stock oil system good to 6800 ish. With out mods. Enjoy the Camaro

[@billfioretti3013]

My Fords have given many Camaros problems over the years. Clevelands and Windsors alike. Stock-style oil pans o.k. to use high-pressure, not high-volume oil pumps. Sounds as if you needed thicker head gaskets. For future reference on average, achieve quench clearance of .030 with steel rods and .040 for aluminum rods. And keep 'em under 7000 r.p.m.

[@vanlarson9213]

@DragBoss351Cleveland Thanks for your advise DragBoss'

[@vanlarson9213]

@arkhsm It's a street car, but it's last run was a 12:30 at 114 mph last time I took it out on street tires. It's got a 6.2 L with a 8 speed automatic, shifting points are 6,500 stock everything. Its a Street car @arkhsm'

[@fredkelso1089]

Tim with that RPM at the end ya gotta remember that the driveshaft is doing that too, you havent lived until it comes up through the floor and goes out the back window. The girdle design troubles me, what if you put nuts right on the main cap, pull em down then the girdle and another nut?

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Hey Fred, don’t want any driveshaft funny stuff happening. The girdle sits on thick washers that sit on main caps.

[@fredkelso1089]

@@DragBoss351Cleveland I watched you get it apart, just was thinking from a vibration standpoint put a nut on the cap, pull it down then the girdle then a nut on top to hold it on?

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

@@fredkelso1089 I see what your saying. but there is a big thick washer under girdle. How would a nut be better?

[@fredkelso1089]

@@DragBoss351Cleveland Im just thinking the nut with its clamping force on the main cap itself with the girdle above it may be better at surviving crank vibration, just thinking out loud

[@lautburns4829]

Hi Tim, wow lots of information in this one! BTW how did the timing chain and gears hold up? And what brand did you use? Great to see you are getting so much help from the Bossettes.😂

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Always fun to see the failure results. Timing chain and everything else seems perfect. I use Rollmaster with Torrington bearing under thrust plate.

[@benrossbach6501]

I hit the like but I dont like to like damage.

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Thanks Ben, me either but sure glad no real damage. Stay tuned

[@vdog4799]

Cool kid👍

[@brentonk461ismylostaccount]

Bummer about the pickup tube breaking. Might wanna do something about that. I wouldn't worry about what the uneducateds say about using a HV oil pump. just use what works. Recondition what ever needs too be done and put it back as it was.

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Right on the money. I do what works for me. Simple. Ready for the machine shop.

[@mikeg4163]

Play the intro at 2x speed……it’s awesome…lol

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

I will have to try it. Thanks Mike.

[@babaoreally8220]

Press fit oil pump pick-ups are known to come apart.Heat and cooling cycles loosen their connection over time.For the high stress of road or drag engines,a couple small TIG spots would be a good insurance policy.Ive seen this happen on aChevy and Pontiac engine in the 60’s,but very rare occurrence tho.

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

These pick ups are threaded, terrible design to me. Investing in a new Stefs pan, get that potential issue off the table.

[@babaoreally8220]

@@DragBoss351Cleveland Pretty thin material to accept a thread.With vibration,I’d be concerned with stress fracture at the bottom of the thread.Stef’s pickup mounting looks foolproof.

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

@babaoreally8220 you got that right. All nasty vibration. Will rebalance rotating assembly too. Stefs for the win

[@chimpfoos65]

Tim can a person use a low oil shut off like a lawn mower engine has and if so would it work you think to save engine in smaller situations if you research please inform me

[@mystang0304]

Spend more time on the motor than enjoying it!

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Yep, seems that way. But that’s racing, get it back going soon.

[@MsRockcrawler]

I run an external oil line from front to back and run full groved main bearings in number 2 and 4 mains to correct crank oiling for rod 2 and 7.

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

I run that line too, first time. Not sure if it makes a difference. Aftermarket cranks fix that oiling issue. Never ran grooved bearings.

[@MsRockcrawler]

this is my first one. It has been a dream of mine sins I was 19 to do up a Cleveland. Just fired in for first time other day. So nice.​@@DragBoss351Cleveland

[@MsRockcrawler]

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[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

@MsRockcrawler congratulations on that. Hope I could help. Good luck with it. Keep me posted. 🏁💯

[@pauljanssen7594]

So question is what really happened, high volume pump suck all the oil out of the oil pan, running full groove main bearings not a good situation. Better to cross drill the crank. They do make main bearings that are not full groups but partially. Like the Jaguar engines and other imports.

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

The answer is a broken pick up. Don’t have those other issues. Stick with aftermarket cranks and you’re ok.

[@williamrose8944]

Time to Build Bigger and Better more stroke 4.100.

[@williamrose8944]

If you need a Block and rear gears let me know I'm in Michigan I have some spare parts

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

@williamrose8944 thanks much. I think I will be ok this time around.

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Soon I will build a 4.125 iron cleveland. Stay tuned.

[@converseracing]

I have fixed worse you will be back together and running soon

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

I like hearing that. Thanks so much

[@pedroequis9396]

Enjoyed the video. Curios, is that just a 2 bolt main block?

[@arkhsm]

I know, who needs a fancy 4 bolt, when Tim's mere 2 bolt block has survived all this !!

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Yep just a 54 year old 2 bolt block.

[@pedroequis9396]

@@arkhsm 2 bolt and girdled

[@jesseduke694]

I just clicked on this video becouse i really like the car! I love cougers & i love clevlands! So i give ur channel another chance for today. But i havent watched ur channel ever since i heard you call the clevland a big block. Most chevy guys do think the clevland is a big block. Its not, but chevy guys do think so.

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Thanks Jesse. I will say this. I never ever called a cleveland a big block. Show me where I said that. I may have said that it is not small block. It is a 335 series engine. Yes Chevy guys do think it is a big block. Glad you’re here, stay tuned for more. Here maybe Ford 351 Cleveland Myths And Truths kzbin.info/www/bejne/e3m4Z2qhhs2oras

[@jesseduke694]

@DragBoss351Cleveland it was a long time ago. I can't show you. I have no idea what video it was even on? Could it be I cought part of a conversation? Could be?

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Never from me. In fact a made a video about it, being tired of people calling it a big block or small block. And that cleveland heads are the same as big block Chevy

[@jesseduke694]

@@DragBoss351Cleveland similar! Not the same

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

@jesseduke694 tomato or tamale 😂

[@williemoon7522]

you need a little more clutter in you shop .

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Yes will try to get more Willie

[@22vampyre]

Blue oval=good Blue rods=bad

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Blues=bad, I better right that down. Positive in and positive out. Thanks Vamp.

[@user-mj5qk4ko8h]

Dang U never seen anyone welding the pickup before you know the drill fixit betterer

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

It will be better, thanks much. Carry on

[@timmiller260]

Hopefully get runs before season ends

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Yes, it is possible. If it is meant to be, it will happen

[@deanstevenson6527]

🥝✔️

[@stephenpage-murray7226]

Off topic but when are you coming to Australia? Plenty of Ford expertise here.

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

I would love to come there with family and meets tons of Clevelands finest. World tour DBG

[@stephenpage-murray7226]

@@DragBoss351Cleveland Go to Higgins Heads, CHI etc. We know our stuff

[@dondotterer24]

Is the new oil pan have a crank scraper?

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Not sure Don. Need to get sent In.

[@user-yo1wo6yg2r]

I have to ask.who welded that pickup tube?

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Moroso

[@123nova87]

Whats the compression on your motor ??

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

13.3

[@user-zc6dn9ms2l]

lucky girls . Now a days you learn this around 16 years old . Very usefull knowledge . Why ? Mam , your porsche need a new engine !40000 dollars . You check . Find out electrical gremlin invasion is what is happening to your porsche

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Common sense ain’t so common anymore. Who know what influence this will have on their career or hobbies.

[@user-zc6dn9ms2l]

car cant strike the pose ? I guess she is striking the pose ?

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

That was hilarious. Have to clue what she was talking about. Yep the pose

[@jesse75]

Google this please: Redding California Craigslist, tunnel ram $700. What is this? Yes it's for a Cleveland.

[@jesse75]

Sorry, category Auto Parts.

[@jesse75]

Roseville.