dbrand x Casetify Lawsuit - WAN Show November 24, 2023

[@NoKi1119]

Dear God, my fingers. This was longer than the 5 Hours WAN Show due to the MM's, and the VOD took 40 minutes to process. -Timestamps- [0:00] *Chapters.* [1:23] *Intro.* [1:47] *Too many merch messages's due to Black Friday.* [2:15] *Topic #1: dBrand & JRE's Zack sue Casetify over skins.* > 2:41 Linus on copyrighting a sticker of a phone's inners, mentions Zack's video. > 4:25 Casetify's similar series, internal scan shortcut, funny comments on the quality. > 8:36 Casetify's lower quality & altered easter eggs from dBrand, LTT reference. > 12:33 dBrand cares about the tech space, legal action, skin to cover the legal costs. > 14:55 Casetify delists series, x-ray case originated from iFixit, iFixit's tweet. > 16:53 Casetify's HQ, funny FP comment on "identical," Linus on cost of x-ray. > 20:25 Casetify's collabs, Luke finds a duped image, Linus wanted to sit on this. > 23:02 Linus asks Luke if he watched Zack's video, discusses it. > 25:29 dBrand talks to Linus about influencers that discussed this. [26:34] *LTTStore's Black Friday deals.* > 31:30 LTT is now 15 years old. Sarah's LTTStore hoodie & shirt design, callbacks. > 34:22 Tom Arnold remade the tech tips from NCIX era, other callbacks. [37:05] *Merch Messages #1.* > 37:36 Worst game that you've played, either funny or actually bad? ft. Dan's overwhelmed. > 43:29 Thoughts on the 1st Gen Threadripper? ft Covering cool tech, Intel, server chips. > 59:18 Something old you wished could be brought back? ft. Luke is the Linux Community. > 1:04:01 Dan the Maniac, MMPS. [1:05:28] *Topic #2: Sony files a patent around "quicksaving."* > 1:07:38 Reason why Linus chose this topic, a patent around saving a game. > 1:08:32 "This would help content creators" article, Luke is upset. > 1:09:06 Cool things about this patent, Luke tries to find what this is for. [1:12:36] *Topic #3: Folding@Home's great month.* > 1:13:04 Luke explains Folding@Home, showing LTT's F@H month VI, prizes update. > 15:06 Linus went to the wrong timeline callback, explaining Linus's RX prediction. [1:16:55] *Topic #4: Ubisoft implements pop-in ads in old games.* > 1:19:38 L4D dev's comments on the game. [1:20:56] *Sponsors ft. Linus's perfect segue.* > 1:21:10 Ridge. > 1:21:51 Seasonic. > 1:22:26 Newegg ft. LTT's Black Friday deals stream, Merch Messages dashboard. [1:26:44] *Merch Messages #2.* > 1:26:50 I heard that I shouldn't buy a TV during Black Friday, is this still a thing? > 1:29:03 Handling the soulless aspects pushing an add-on purchase? ft. NCIX, Best Buy. > 1:40:59 Do you think season-based games will outperform traditional games? > 1:48:52 Linus recalls speed running merch messages. > 1:50:42 Tynan got the cargos, say they are good. [1:51:03] *Topic #5: Sam Altman returns after 95% of OpenAI threaten the board to resign.* > 1:52:33 Who was the bigger winner in this, and why is it Microsoft? > 1:53:59 Luke thought they'd become a part of MS, how long until this is a movie? [1:55:10] *Topic #6: PLEX's Discover Together feature sends summaries of friend's activity.* > 1:55:48 Feature is opt-out, Linus on how far Plex deviated. > 1:59:08 Luke looks at Plex's CEO LinkedIn, Linus's perfect world. [2:01:27] *Mouse jumpscares Dan, both him & Linus run to it, recalling the Bread.* > 2:04:33 Luke leaves, breaks the camera. > 2:05:23 Linus & Luke comes back, Luke on this being the DLLM Show. [Cont.] *Topic #6: PLEX's Discover Together feature sends summaries of friend's activity.* > 2:06:25 Luke mentions opt-in & Linus's deal, Linus on Luke's movies, Hackers, actors. > 2:25:22 Mentioning The Cable Guy, The Boondock Saints, Starship Troopers. > 2:27:26 Linus couldn't watch The Room, Disaster Artist was based on a true story. > 2:29:10 Linus recalls Thor: Ragnarok, mentions theatre banners. > 2:30:12 Linus hasn't watched many bad movies ft. Ghost Dan Cam. > 2:30:55 Dan mentions My Neighbor Totoro, compares to Spirited Away. [2:36:26] *Topic #7: Google Chrome's Manifest V3.* > 2:36:43 Luke laughs at "My Neighbour Angelina Jolie." [Cont.] *Topic #7: Google Chrome's Manifest V3.* > 2:37:22 Original proposal lowered, will turn of Manifest V2 by 2024. > 2:38:13 Artificial delay on KZbin to punish adblockers. [2:39:36] *Topic #8: Nothing reversed course and removed the Blue Bubble & Sunbird.* > 2:40:09 Sunbird collects & stores data on cloud, transfers via HTTP. [2:40:42] *Topic #9: EU enforces rules for parts, repairs & forces removal of software blocks.* > 2:42:30 Luke never guessed this would've been what solved the problems. [2:43:12] *Dan shows off funny case stickers.* > 2:44:44 Dan unironically wearing Uncle Linus hoodie. [2:45:22] *Unable to respond to messages, Dan's Chrome tab uses 4GB.* > 2:46:52 Linus tells Luke about profits from Black Friday. > 2:49:38 The sales won't end today. [2:50:05] *Merch Messages #3.* > 2:50:35 Has LTTStore tried to work with stocking Vessi? > 2:50:52 Next Scrapyard wars? ft. Dan on how much laptops can handle. > 2:51:16 Where do you draw the legal line on what topic to cover? > 2:53:01 Thoughts on the Crawlata project, a Linux/ChromeOS laptop? > 2:54:38 Linus you got $2M, you can spend it on Rivera, LTTStore B&M, OLED Ally, or new merch ideas? > 2:56:13 Would you get into non-tech experiences? > 2:56:22 With the new CEO, did the new implementations go through? What changes? > 2:56:44 What quirk of old games you sorely miss? > 2:57:34 When was the last time you broke something and thought you'd never recover? > 2:58:53 Roundup of all the smart home improvements Linus has done? > 3:00:26 Luke's trip to Japan ft. Pokemon, drifting, foods, merch messages. > 3:05:52 What scams you can catch but others fall for? > 3:07:22 You went to the wrong timeline! > 3:07:38 If Casetify sponsored you to wrap the Taycan, would you still stick to Warzone? > 3:09:36 Hairbrain tech? ft. Editor's den, Linus's case idea, Luke's inverter. > 3:16:22 Best deal you've ever gotten? > 3:17:47 Should we normalize building $2,000 PCs to play Minecraft? > 3:17:55 Real-life film adaptation of FFVI? > 3:21:32 Have you tried or considered padel? > 3:23:41 Have you tried Frostpunk? > 3:23:55 How does Linus deal with the aftermath of dropping stuff? > 3:24:48 Have you listened to the Black Mages yet? > 3:25:02 Any potential for a future LTT collab with dBrand? > 3:26:55 If you direct Creator Warehouse's budget towards making one product, what would it be? > 3:27:54 Scariest software bug or vulnerability you had to deal with? > 3:29:34 LMG band? New Christmas album with proper musician-ship? > 3:30:30 Any comments on using Steam Deck at work besides gaming? > 3:32:42 Thoughts on buying a controller for PC games? > 3:33:08 Are you Doctor Who fans? excited for the special tomorrow? > 3:33:58 How do you store your VR headsets? prevent lenses from fogging up? > 3:35:17 Has insider knowledge ever changed the way you use a service? > 3:38:04 Do you miss the stylus of your Samsung Note days? > 3:38:28 What LTTStore items was the catalyst that blew the store up? > 3:39:30 A game you played with a big flaw that doesn't let you say it's perfect? > 3:41:46 What music does Linus listen to, and has Beat Saber changes his taste? > 3:43:01 4 Days WAN Show due to merch messages. > 3:43:36 Why do Threadripper review videos not include the Sapphire Rapids W series? > 3:45:58 How are Linus's cats doing? Do they sleep on the bed? > 3:46:36 Many arriving, possible record of merch message quantity. [3:49:31] *Outro ft. Outro tries to load 400 messages.*

[@magician4058]

God didnt bless us with timestamps. You did.

[@leongao5120]

now sleep

[@executable3]

So glad youtube isn't hiding them this week. Bless you you magnificent person!

[@ChickenNuggies]

amazing.

[@spacemancanpee7114]

Timestamp guy needs a shoutout every WanShow and should be allowed to pass a message to the viewers every show lmao

[@JerryRigEverything]

Casetify scratches at a level 0 with deeper grooves at a level 1.

[@Elainyan]

Casetify too weak

[@MrNeosantana]

Casetify gonna die They can kiss their contracts goodbye

[@WDMurphy]

Heard about the dbrand thing from your channel first, good look to y'all.

[@B0B_BELCHER]

Ouch!

[@intelchip_x86]

oe emm jee its really THE jerryrigseverything 1111!!!!1

[@tonythesuperperson]

I’m glad to see you stand up for dbrand, not that they can tell you’re standing up

[@PeterDoesFarming]

It's funny because it's a short joke

[@bobhawkey3783]

Well played sir.

[@jjlortez]

Ok, that was pretty good. I would love if dbrand stole this for a marketing thing

[@colingale]

@@PeterDoesFarming yeah, that one went over my head. :-P

[@muhammadzafar8303]

Dbrand needs to hire you to insult linus

[@jelkk0349]

Ngl this saga has been the single best promotion for dBrand I've seen, really shows how much better the quality is compared to others.

[@poshinoposhi]

I really took it for granted and now seeing the comparison really shows how much QUALITY just oozes out.

[@eTiMaGo]

honestly I was on the fence about getting either a dbrand or casetify case for my phone, now it's a no-brainer!

[@marcochavanne]

I'd normally agree, but Dbrand has had some issues with their new Ghost cases and quality control. Companies can hit a home run every time they swing, but Dbrand acknowledged the issue and is sending everyone who got a Ghost case a second one with updates materials for free. Shhhh happens, but what really sets companies apart is how they handle it.

[@bennybouken]

a case that I just bought online for less than $5 does the same thing at about the same quality Lol

[@Mayurpaj]

If disney still collaborates with casetify after all this. People who pirate their content should do it with less guilt.

[@SquintyGears]

Bruh, if you're pirating something you dont have guilt to begin with. Disney can afford the loss anyways.

[@asumiluna9066]

Everyone getting pirated can afford the loss

[@Dynamic1080]

Never once felt guilty about pirating anything 😂😂😂

[@audistah2011]

Yarr!

[@chadbizeau5997]

​@@SquintyGearsI don't know, Kathleen Kennedy has cost them over a billion so far lol...

[@dav2mai]

Dan spooked by a mouse, Linus desperate for fresh cat TV and Luke laughing his ass off, that's what I'm here for! 😂

[@viniciusmedinarj]

I was listening to it as I playerd State of Decay2, and for an instant I thought he was talking about a computer mouse he needed to do a demo of something called Cat TV.

[@Renegade605]

​@@viniciusmedinarjI was also listening without video and had to go back and see wtf when I got to work.

[@yezakd]

Honestly, I ALWAYS thought Dbrand was stupid until this. Their breakdown of their art on this particular image made me respect their concept and idea the way none of their prior marketing has.

[@nealreiersen6823]

The funny thing is there are actual towns that exist today because map makers back in the day added things to maps to catch pirates like D-brand did on the skins

[@badbradmx]

The phrase you're looking for is paper towns, I believe.

[@akihitokoizumi2474]

same thing with dictionaries

[@TheMotlias]

The change to Plex would be a GDPR breach here in the UK and EU, personal data collection and sharing like that has to be Opt-in, not opt out

[@elone3997]

The whole thing is shady af. Theres mistakes and there's ahem 'mistakes'..

[@vinylmodsmanitoba]

Opt-out should never have been a thing in the first place!

[@nickwallette6201]

@@elone3997 Yeah this was a big oops. It has that turning point in a thriller movie kind of feel, where one person stops a conversation and says "wait, I never told you about that..." Plex, you're not supposed to know these things. Have you been watching me??

[@md3171]

when wan show does an " event" like a sale they need to bring in a few more guests, to help dan out with the messages. Like the old school telethons.

[@GhostTheToast]

Was thinking this exact thing. Could be extra fun with some labs members or writers

[@ichijofestival2576]

Get the feeling Linus doesn't realize just how stupid the patent system is. Within the gaming industry, it's been used to lock down ideas, then never use them again. (See: Namco loading screen games.) I have little to no faith that whoever's authorizing these patents is competent enough to reject the ridiculous submissions.

[@OrbObserver]

The Namco loading screen game patent actually expired back in 2015, you don't see anyone using them because loading screens don't really exist anymore.

[@LaughingOrange]

The job of the patent office is to look for novel ideas. If there isn't a patent already, then it's granted. The idea doesn't even have to work.

[@ruukinen]

I mean on the flipside, this patent is dumb enough that if it does get approved, fighting it in court to get it overturned is going to be a cakewalk.

[@digitalmurder]

If you ever invent anything at all i suggest you revisit this post and reflect.

[@2muchjpop]

It's literally a useless patent now that SSDs are default going forward

[@daylen577]

44:30 I get that people with budget builds want upgrade paths, but when you go Threadripper you're going all-out anyway, and you're either in a position where another $500 on a motherboard and faster RAM a few years down the line is utterly irrelevant or you don't plan on upgrading anytime soon. I bought my 3900x machine in July of 2020, and have not had to upgrade since. When I do upgrade, I am just going to do a new build because that whole platform is now irrelevant, and while I got the fastest memory available back then we're now a generation of DDR ahead that has double the speed. Upgrade paths really aren't as big a deal for most people. The theoretical ability to put a little bit of money into an upgrade is neat, but that really only works for the minor yearly upgrades, which most people don't do anymore.

[@MinaliaGames]

Back when I worked at Fry's Electronics, I found out that they don't WANT their computer salespersons to BE truly knowledgeable. If you KNEW computers you weren't likely to get a position as salesperson. They only want people who can push high margin products.

[@kz.irudimen]

That makes sense TBH. I worked as a "technical salesperson" (so I fixed computers but also sold them) in a small mom&pops shop, and when you were the tech and salesperson you really had to be 2 different people. I had some classes on how to really push stuff, and I hated absolutely everything I was taught in those. Thankfully the boss always told us we were "techs first" and she did not want us to apply those kinds of salespersons methods, she was a good person. But I can see why the stores you're talking about did not want techs selling, every tech I knew hated those types of methods.

[@0Rookie0]

@@kz.irudimen TL;DR *Sigh* Ho-hum... Losing faith in humanity* (*one trick salesmen with no knowledge and the push for more because sales are king to many business owners) _____ It's a shame, as an enthusiast, that most easy to find and get jobs are in sales. Which as you said, have nothing to do with sharing passion and product knowledge. I was always the person I wanted to see as a the customer, and my boss didn't like that at one job. The one time I took the advice to sell a new product, I got it wrong and we had to do a return and replace. I knew it felt dirty when I did it. I didn't know anything besides "it's really good, you need to try harder and get these out the door, we make a bunch on these." It was an edge case that I didn't check for compatibility on and the poor guy had to install and uninstall it which isn't trivial. I wouldn't have done that if I had done some research that I always did first. It stands out to me to this day because how wrong it felt to push a product I couldn't make a pros and cons list on the fly for. All it took was one time! And the other, I didn't stick around after the 8 hour training day. They were all about pushing deals people didn't ask about and wouldn't care for 60% of the time. Each person was to be sold to. It ruined my credibility with each person who cared about the interaction. I could feel it eating me. I knew what I was talking about and I knew the customer didn't need to buy any of what was on the desk to push. If it were general consumables I'd feel better about it. No 16 year old walking in for a $11 part wants to be sold $80 in headlight bulbs. It might work overall, but it's stupid on a per person basis. I'm into cars and powersports and am always uniquely and completely thrown aback with how ignorant most car sales people are. The ones who clearly aren't passionate. My S/O and I went to a large Subaru dealership and asked about their BRZ (a model they sold and had in stock) and the guy DIDN'T KNOW what I was talking about. Granted he was probably new, but my first job at Jimmy John's had a harder memorization test for the sandwiches than remembering a lineup of like 7 cars at the time. If he didn't have the shirt, name tag and desk, I'd think I was being pranked. We came to see a specific color (a pearl white) and he even failed that. I had to show him that the color options, on the car builder site, had names. We found an suv with the same color that they had on the lot so we could look at it. I've also had several older car salesmen throughout the years walk me through their car builder websites as if I needed the hand holding for the 3 steps it takes to get to a summary estimate online. Maybe it's the techy self-reliant way I am (and I feel most of us are). But it's rare for a salesman to know more than me. And if they seem to, I usually find out later they didn't know what they were saying because they got a big detail wrong. I hate when people, let alone, sales people, can't admit they aren't confident about something to a stranger. One salesman I met owned the small dealer I went to. He was super cool and we ended up talking about most of the cars on his lot. Point is, I don't expect a BestBuy employee to spout off the RAM options for each phone from memory but I do expect somebody trying to sell a $60K truck to a 20 something year old to not be incompetent. It's gross and morally bankrupt. And my favorite positions have always been where there is an understanding that there is no commission and that no underhanded tactics need to be present from anyone. Teaching is fun when you like the topic. I loved my time teaching people how to ride motorcycles safely, for instance.

[@ikagun]

Same thing at Staples. Push all the bullshit, sell someone who doesn't know any better something they don't need just to get them spending more

[@Schtiffles]

I worked at best buy and was given the boot from the computers department for not pushing useless addons and being generally knowledgeable enough to not recommend high end parts for facebook browsing. They didn't want to sell cheap parts because it was harder to justify tacking on service plans with them. But it was a win for me cuz they had me flying toy helicopters around the store instead. Good times.

[@jojojojo4332]

They need to take a look at the former CEO of Nintendo, you need someone knowledgeable.

[@daylen577]

3:25:05 I think it would be cool if dBrand carried the LTTStore designs as phone cases (with necessary modifications, of course, so they don't look like the designs you can get on the print to order sites where bots automatically upload stuff). Having a high quality WAN Show phone case would be lit.

[@RonsarLo]

Dinosaur case?

[@Pr0toc01]

Bread case?

[@Pr0toc01]

either for your phone in the shape of bread, or for actual bread. Im ok with either.

[@Adowrath]

@@Pr0toc01 A toaster with swappable tiles that can burn in the T-Shirt designs!

[@icanmakeeverythingilovedie9861]

I mean, it'd be cool, but it'd have to be subtle. Something like that with their usual designs would scream virgin.

[@baleavitt]

Dude, if the mice are coming out during working hours where you can see them, and ON TOP OF THE DESK in front of you no less, YES, you really have mice. Call the exterminator because those things will even chew power cables and you have LOTS of cables!

[@Iscream4j0y]

Sony should make a physical apparatus of sorts so that we can store these new saves physically, maybe we could plug it in and out of games, they could have various sizes too

[@rotmistrzjanm8776]

They literally had it on PS2

[@shakeelkhan9881]

Woosh

[@stewartnichol9546]

​@@rotmistrzjanm8776they had it on ps1

[@JohnnyBsKillz115]

Could call it a Save Card or... Memory Card?!

[@greg_one_izm]

Sounds pretty dumb, I doubt that would ever work.. How would you /move/ a save file? it's not a physical thing just up there in the cloud metaphorically right?

[@UltravioletMind]

Hope you solve the mouse problem in the lab ASAP!!! my dad ran an engineering business and rats got into the warehouse where they stored equipment and absolutely devastated hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of equipment. Every time they'd need to grab a some equipment from storage, only to find all the wires chewed to bits . I swear Ive never seen my dad look more like he was about to cry than that day.

[@Metal_Maxine]

The lab, logistics and writer's den are in a separate building from the studio. That said, there are more than enough munchy munchy things in the studio.

[@UltravioletMind]

@@Metal_Maxine I think linus mentioned they had set traps in labs as well. I hope its just the one mouse on an vacation, not recon. But all the fancy new equipment in that building is prime mouse target.

[@Matchstiix]

Sounds like an opportunity for an LTT warehouse cat.

[@Askaret]

Sounds like LLT python opportunity ;)

[@Metal_Maxine]

@@Askaret Perhaps Luke should hire a python coder (sorry)

[@tutacat]

You can use split heat pumps to move heat from place to place, which takes in or lets out heat into the system. Because the heat pump can let in heat from outside, or different rooms on the same loop.

[@technewb8241]

The launch of Threadripper is what got me into tech as a hobby. Prior to the hype around Threadripper, I saw computers as the internet box. But it introduced me to the LTT channel, got me watching content, and led to me getting started in PC gaming. I will never buy Threadripper because I absolutely don't need it, but I still have Threadripper packaging on display to commemorate it

[@5GTower1000Percent]

I have looked up Casetify, and they operate also in Germany, and by German law they have to have an “Impressum”, the literal translation would be 'imprint'. Where you should be able to see within a few clicks, I think by law it should be 2, where the company is registered, who is the CEO or responsible for the company. Further important information like company type, specific laws, etc. need to be mentioned if applicable to the field you operate in. Probably goes against other European law as well. If you sell your products in a country, you should at the very least follow that countries laws...

[@benjaminhofma5836]

I used to install air conditioners for a living in Australia and Mitsubishi were far and away the best brand, we stopped installing any other brands because we got sick of fixing them. Mitsubishi rarely had issues.

[@mikez6289]

You guys should put the 15 year design on 1 or 2 sizes of desk pads. Coolest design I’ve seen yet from the community and team

[@sogwatchman]

In Hackers when they hit the hook/receiver ten times they are using pulse dialing to dial a collective zero to get the operator. Depending on the phone system set up that could bypass the archaic phone system that the jail had.

[@TheInternetHelpdeskPlays]

6 minutes in and the sarcasm dripping from Linus gives me strength. So funny 😂

[@jarrodkober]

The community note on Casify's Twitter response is gold! They said they are a "bastion of originality," then the community note cites the Jerry rig video etc lmao

[@AlpakaWhacker]

1:06:49 I think you might be thinking of it wrong. To me, I interpret it as instead of loading up a previous save/quicksave which looses all progress from after the save was made, instead with this feature you essentially fast travel back to a point in your playthrough and retain the progress made since the last time you were there. In an open world game, you can already kinda do this but in a linear singleplayer game, this isn't typically something you can do. I don't think Sony should be granted a patent for this mechanic as it could prevent other studios implementing a similar system in their games but it's a fantastic idea.

[@Kobay350]

Copyright traps when done well are very effective. Unlike paper towns there isnt a risk someone would go create these elements inside the phone.

[@Lanidien]

I only really watch the WAN Show to see Dan and Linus try to catch mice

[@lpcustomvs]

I loved Carpool Critics/ It’s Just Movies. It was nice to listen to you all have opinions something different than consumer and server electronics. The convos often took an interesting turn. The only substitution for that from you is The WAN Show. That’s my 5 cents on your “you were never loved that much”. Adding to that, lot of my favorite episodes were the ones with Linus!

[@RamuneSky]

the new mouse product is lookin good! looks very realistic to a living mouse can't wait for the ShortCircuit review

[@mellertid]

Innovation or gimmick, this mouse have this non detachable short wire. A bit squeeky for a premium product.

[@SlippyMcKnot8472]

Hi Dll, I am sure you won't read the comments, but I have to apologize. I got so excited to finally be able to buy something and leave a merch message that I got straight to the point and didn't even say hi in my message lol. Thank you for the great products and great content I listen to the wan she every Saturday morning during work.

[@motbus3]

A note on Altman return. He replaced the not-for-profit committee with former oil and energy industry CEOs and removed the aí safety committee. Tell me, this was not just some stunt

[@onetruearchmage3993]

Linus, Jellyfin is a drop-in replacement for Plex. Before I fully committed to the move I had both running on the same library as well as a docker container that synced my watch stats. The only negatives of moving are that you can't skip intros on the app and your collections don't automatically move over, neither of which I would consider a huge deal given Jellyfin's "good enough" auto-collection and chapter features.

[@myfakeguuglaccount8307]

You can run both at the same time? I've been thinking of switching to Jellyfin.

[@vivianmason8867]

​@myfakeguuglaccount8307 I run both at the same time, I keep plex purely to use it on my phone away from home. At home I use Jellyfin only.

[@bgezal]

@@myfakeguuglaccount8307 I run both at the same time. They don't interfere with each other. Jellyfin has too many annoyances for me to make the switch yet.

[@onetruearchmage3993]

@@myfakeguuglaccount8307 Yeah, I had them both as docker containers pointing to the same media folders but there shouldn't be any issue with running the standalone apps together.

[@l0gic23]

​@@myfakeguuglaccount8307yes

[@demacherius1]

Hey guys just a small idea for merch messages: If one replies it should get send to the person via mail aswell. Would also solve the issue of displaytime on stream.

[@bastyz1]

I’d personally love this

[@stephenfrithofficial2453]

Good suggestion!

[@elone3997]

I love how Luke is literally loving hearing Linus describe the 'Hackers' plot because he loves it soooo much even through Linus's utter disdain 😂😂

[@liffei420]

Well it is a fun movie, if dumb and a piss poor depiction of hacking. But I would say a LOT of it is very much of the time and what was deemed edgy or cool or futuristic. But watching it now without historic context it all is very silly. Especially them geeking out over Jolie's laptop hearing them rattle off the specs is hilarious.

[@elone3997]

@@liffei420 Yeah, tech does NOT age well, especially in movies!

[@nickwallette6201]

@@liffei420 But it has a twenty-eight point eight bps modem!

[@BartekJuszczak]

I have a big appreciation for the fact that unlike most videos, your volume is actually mixed to the same volume as music streaming

[@brandonezra88]

I’m here doing an overnight at Best Buy and it looks like we have pulled these cases off the shelf.

[@etherealboomslang991]

Best buy should have went with dbrand anyway, they have cooler skins and cases XD

[@brandonezra88]

@@etherealboomslang991 agree

[@ac.creations]

I always get a fat pelican case and a Dbrand skin for any new phone. Why do they make phones so unholdable? They're slippery and just thin enough you can't grip with 1 hand (and too big at the same time)

[@richclubb]

The pressing the hang up button to dial a number fully works. I tried it as a child and was blown away

[@alloysiouschin4675]

"Theres a mouse on your table?" I love this show. The one podcast i actually WATCH instead of just listen

[@Jan12700]

2:27:12 Sadly in Germany Starship Troopers got butchered in translation so that it wasn't a satire anymore and everything was extremely serious. Because of the shift in tone it was also heavenly censored.

[@daylen577]

3:18 the annoying thing is Zack refers to himself as Jerry in his videos sometimes (in the third person), which makes it extra confusing. At this point his name might as well be Jerry.

[@magnificientmagnus]

Jerry was hi grandfather's name.

[@daylen577]

@@magnificientmagnus I know, that doesn't change my point

[@itsallgravy_9437]

Not the same domain (at all) but the YT'r Cleetus McFarland is universally known and called that name... despite his real name being Garret Mitchell...

[@ElDapperCaballo]

Linus' segue to the Ridge wallet was probably the best/smoothest segue to a sponsor that he's ever done. Bravo

[@tutacat]

Why not use HVAC ducting to remove warm air from the warm room and hope it pulls cooler air (or vice versa) Otherwise you can use mini split heat pump, which takes in or lets out heat into the system. Because the heat pump can let in heat from outside, or different rooms on the same loop.

[@MrNeosantana]

I'm legitimately amazed that I got a Casetify ad under this video

[@Pr0toc01]

He bounced the hangup on the phone when hes in jail. He gave the guard one number to call, then when the guard locks the keypad on the phone and walks away he bounces the hangup to get to an operator to say hes having trouble dialing a number, gave the operator the number and the operator connects the call. There is a scene where they use a pocket tape recorder to play back the tones to make a free call. I honestly think Linus just is so disinterested in it that hes mixing up the parts of the movie. It does bug the shit out of me when Linus trys to argue something that hes very clearly not right simply because he wasnt paying attention. Hackers was meant to be an over stylized, over the top, bombastic, super self aware take on the hacking culture of the late 80s and 90s The game in the CLUB that they are playing lead to the development of the WIPEOUT franchise.

[@AlexanderAPW]

Re hackers: it was made during time when most people didn't have computers or internet at home, nor ever heard the word hacker apart from maybe reading a news article about Kevin Mitnick who was caught around the same time. Phreaking was an integral part of hackers toolkit at the time which more often than not was more about social engineering than coding. The term hacker didn't even properly exist and meant "person who breaks into computer systems" - it had nothing to do with coding or researching code vulnerabilities. Think more of it as a penetration specialist - and social engineering or phreaking is a part of it as much as is anything else.

[@AspenFrostt]

exactly. you can use drop boxes and rubber duckys that aren't exactly typical hacking but still do the same thing and social engineering the front desk or security to break in and drop one of these devices is definitely a part of hacking.

[@tutacat]

VLC / File Manager is a good Plex alternative. But Jellyfin setup is a breeze as well. You will not struggle, just make sure your transcoding GPU is working, and don't force a resolution setting from the server, so it doesn't break the player.

[@vinylmodsmanitoba]

Jellyfin is so damn good!

[@nickwallette6201]

Honest question ... all I want is something that can do on-the-fly transcoding, so a stupid TV that knows how to parse an MKV file, but for some reason only supports like two codecs in the whole world can still play any DVD or BD rip. Is Jellyfin the right answer to something like that?

[@vinylmodsmanitoba]

@@nickwallette6201 yes. More or less. Jellyfin can transcode on the fly for a tv. You can even customize how it transcodes video files and how much it compresses them before sending the data stream

[@joekingsword2150]

36:00 them taking ideas from the community is what the improvement we hoped for since the change

[@danielt1g3r75]

Idea for a dbramd case: ltt-labs specs, - all the test data displayed on the case

[@sevilnatas]

There should be a law in the US that says that if a US entity sues an offshore company for IP related issues, if the offshore company doesn't respond or submit to the court case ruling, they should be not allowed to do business in the US. Otherwise, there is almost no consequences for the offshore company just not responding to the case.

[@BadMotivator66]

i've had some d brand skins and cases through LTT sponsorship and I do think the quality is pretty good. designs are nice too. I'd rather buy from them because the company appear to care about quality and put thought into their marketing too.

[@CptKillJack]

Best deal I have ever gotten. 60GB Sandforce Pheonix SSD for $60 in 2010. First day of Black november at 2am Mountain. They lasted 5 min. Was hanging out In EVGAs IRC at the time they posted it and someone posted the deal. We watched it go up. Get ours and watched it sell out.

[@MrSociofobs]

As someone who's into print on demand business myself, I hope this lawsuit will scare a lot of copycats and shift the design market towards original & unique designs. For years, copying the best-selling designs has been the default for a lot of merch "artists", as it's the easiest way to make quick sales. Casetify are far from the only ones doing this.

[@bladactania]

The guys completely missed the concept of the Sony patent. It's got nothing to do with saves. You can use the triggers to A) choose a spot to play even if youve never played the game before or B) you watch someone streaming a game and they can provide a link to a "trigger spot" in the game so that you can then click on which takes you into that exact same point in the game you just watched the streamer play and play it yourself

[@davemcdill8917]

I totally get Luke's point about "easy is boring" it's just like car guys love working on their cars, pulling bits off and putting bits on. Nobody wants to HAVE to work on their thing but if you have the option to work on it to make it better or more efficient. We love that shiz, and could lose days without thinking about it

[@maxwellrobinson2924]

For clarification a heat pump isn’t called a heat pump because it helps heat a room. It moves heat, either direction so if you’re cooling it moves heat away.

[@IndyMiraaga]

My room gets in the 27 degrees celsius range in the summer if I try gaming on my desktop, because the insulation in my room is god-awful so it becomes a terrible hotbox in the summer and can drop close to 12 degrees overnight in the winter unless I run my PC hard overnight. The idea of a case that expels heat outside for hot days would thrill the hell out of me. As long as it's in the $200 USD range or less, I'd totally grab one of those for a future AM5 X3D build.

[@killerkip1]

Older telephone systems would use dial tones to move from switch to switch, there was some people who recorded these sounds and used them to get free calls or directly connect. My memory is a little fuzzy on the details on how it was actually done, but that was a thing at one point.

[@nickwallette6201]

The 2600Hz tone. The phone hacking stuff was actually pretty reasonably accurate, with a few liberties taken to intentionally fall short of being a How-To guide.

[@killerkip1]

Reminds me of the oh-so-accurate scene with Rat in Core when he uses a gum wrapper as a flute to give the one guy unlimited call time lol

[@-B.H.]

Surprised yet not surprised that Linus doesn't like Hackers. Doesn't change it's a fun movie.

[@SenseiFamilyJedi]

love you guys. thanks for keeping me entertained and educated for over a decade!

[@mully006]

Just go for the separate radiator loop between the editing den and warehouse/outside. Keep it simple.

[@MrV1NC3N7V3G4]

2:14:30 Linus, you are so far out of your depth here. You keep using the word "hacking" like it only means breaking into computer systems when that was not even close to the original meaning. Originally, hacking was making something work in a way it wasn’t originally intended. People hacked everything. Phreaking was just another form of hacking and it didn’t just involve playing 2600Hz break tones or operator tones to make free calls. We hacked PBX systems, built hardware "boxes" of all sorts, in addition to making free public phone calls and having our quarter returned lol. We even had a "box" to reduce the voltage drop on the ring line just enough to answer the call but not enough to make the phone company think the receiver was picked up, so the caller was never charged.

[@element7821]

Hackers has to be seen as a movie of its time. The music is still awesome and even though the visuals is very movie-like, the technical side is actually not that far off. Password lists, dumpster diving, reconnaissance and the knowledge of network (the books) and systems is very valid. The payphone part is not entirely fiction either. Of course, the "flu-shot and 3D Gibson"-part is a bit cringe, but you have to remember that they made a movie about hacking in 1995. Most people didn't know internet existed back then. Of all the movies dealing with hacking, this one is actually pretty good.

[@grn1]

Linus mentioned Phreaking and said the reason he didn't like the payphone part is because the guy just hit the hang up thing a bunch instead of doing something even remotely realistic (like calling a toll free number then blowing on a toy whistle). I've not actually watched the movie myself though, I'm not a fan of dumb comedy (a good parody like Space Balls is ok from time to time).

[@element7821]

@@grn1 Phreaking (red boxing) was shown on the Razor&Blade show in the movie, and later used by characters in the movie to get free calls from payphones. This might be hard to believe, but it was actually a thing back in the 90s. The hammering of the phonehook was just a convenient way of reaching the operator of the phone line (yes, that was actually also a thing, but how to get it touch varied). I can recommend Kaspersky's writeup on the 25th anniversary of the movie, and there are a few really good summaries on Reddit as well. Short summary is that the GUI part is just for show but a surprising number of other details and topics are valid. I'm actually a bit disappointed in Linus for not knowing (or caring to obtain knowledge) before bashing the movie like he did.

[@davyrando1203]

2:25:22 "Isn't that a comedy?" "...allegedly." That made me laugh way harder than it should have

[@heyiceman]

Unironically my Casetify case just suffered catastrophic failure after barely a year, so this dbrand news surfaces just in time to save me from ever giving them any money again. Also, their branding on the screen protector pisses me off every time I see it. Nothing quite like a Casetify logo around two corners of my screen every time I use it.

[@bipbop3121]

I hadn't ever heard of them before this, but since my introduction is low effort IP theft, I expected they were crap cosmetic, than function. Thanks for the confirmation.

[@etherealboomslang991]

Did you know they had their logo on the screen protector before you got it? That's what put me off castify and i never ordered from them. Their stuff is branded out the ass.

[@heyiceman]

@@etherealboomslang991 nope, it wasn’t obvious from the product photos at the time. I wouldn’t have ordered if I knew and sent* a very angry email to customer support after getting it. :(

[@myfakeguuglaccount8307]

Chinese company doing Chinese company things. Shocked./s

[@killianjones224]

Half-Life 2 did what's described with save states perfectly. It supported auto saves in general, and if you had an auto save from specific parts of the story, you could select one of those parts, and it would load the most recent auto save from that moment. It even had screenshots. I even think there's some trickery you can pull with the steam:// protocol to link to chapters, so KZbin videos could link to a chapter that viewers could click on to load their most recent auto save from that chapter. That was 19 years ago. There's really nothing new here.

[@Pegaroo_]

1:26:06 Easy solution is have extra Dan(s) for the 2 or 3 times a year you know WANs are going to be busy

[@Metal_Maxine]

"Cloning your tech support genius is easy (not easy)"

[@Pegaroo_]

@@Metal_Maxine It's not tech support, it's an extra person (or 2) dealing with merch messages

[@Metal_Maxine]

@@Pegaroo_ I was just trying to come up with a job description for Dan. I thought cloning him would make a good (if impossible and cursed) LTT episode title. It was meant to be a reference to the "running a KZbin business is easy (not easy)" BTS episode.

[@Pegaroo_]

​@@Metal_Maxine I was giving an actual practical solution if they don't want to rebuild the merch message system to be quicker for those rare occasions that Dan can't keep up but I can see what you were getting at now

[@DanimalCannonOfficial]

3:35:18 oh my god is that a Boeing employee sounding the alarm?

[@lomelyo]

To be fair to get the images you have to pay for a photographer, the phones and thr editors. Jerry said it was thousands and thousands of hour (Was it 10 thousand). That means is thousands of thousands of dollars.

[@equizzix4804]

Linus and Zach address this in their videos

[@Rjmc19]

@@merrychase9744zach said in his video that casetify just copied the images because he had his own Easter eggs on the images and those appear/appeared in casetify products. So they used Zack’s images

[@Voltaic_Fire]

​@@merrychase9744Zack's version is transformative and thus considered an unique and protected work that he can monetise, not that I think that the manufacturer has copyright on their interior layout as a piece of art.

[@zebobm]

​@@merrychase9744they will most likely win if it is not settled. They don't own the copyright of the design of the phone, but they do own the copyright of the pictures like any photographer.

[@swiftdragonrider]

⁠@@merrychase9744if you make a creative work and you post it first it is usually a really good way to win any legal battle about copyright. Art is extremely subjective so copyright is given if your work is even slightly innovative and you don’t have to apply for it to get protection

[@AceofTunes]

First time I have ever had to fast forward through a Linus hot take. Hackers is hands down my favourite movie. I got into computers because of Hackers. I got into InfoSec because of Hackers lol Shaped my entire life

[@meowcheeses9870]

Luke and Dan almost having a fist fight over the site was one of the funniest things I've ever seen

[@Coolshows101]

1:07:12 what I want is the ability to rewind to ANY point in the game. Mainly so if you pause for any reason, but that means you die because lose momentum/input, you can rewind before the enemy bullet was fired or whatever, unpause and not die. Edit: They talked about racing games having rewind which I didn't know about.

[@dfdorsey85]

I will be curious to see if brands such as Disney or Joe Jonas or Kylie Jenner remove their products from Casetify. How do they feel comfortable having their brand or names represented by a company who "allegedly" blatantly plagiarizes with sub-par printing/artwork resolutions. DBrands marketing should strike fast and reach out to poach them away.

[@Metal_Maxine]

Disney already has (or at least their logo is goneski from the site)

[@arun279]

2:37:37 so I will be turning off my google chrome by June 2024. Need to try out different browsers and come up with a new default by then (most likely Firefox).

[@themusesquad8554]

Loading screen games also existed before Konami Patent it and they still managed to get it Pantented.

[@zexyhd693]

the amount of ad rev this man has made of me, his videos jus auto-playing in the background all night long bc i never turn my pc off xD

[@burretploof]

This WAN show really has everything, I can't 😂

[@eldukedrino]

honestly, the biggest news is that jerry's name is zack.

[@mellertid]

Eniac designers considered and tested rodent damage when choosing cables 😊

[@22oreos]

1:03:33 he's so true though! i don't miss overclocking at all but i don't want things to become easy to the point of it being boring

[@AlyxiSistahTweaky25]

From now on, I will be referring to Canadian Dollars as Beaver Bucks

[@gonzos-twin]

Their female spies are called a maple pots

[@AlyxiSistahTweaky25]

@@gonzos-twin And the male spies Moose Moles?

[@trapical]

"do not talk to me about 1995, i was there when it was written" What a hell of a line

[@HikariKnight]

I use threadripper just for the 64(60)+ PCIE lanes, i love my 1st gen threadrippper. for what i use it for i only need the lanes and 12-16 cores and it really sucks that i am completely priced out of the threadripper platform when the consumer platform has nowhere the amount of lanes i need (i might be able to get away with running the 2 x16 slots in x8 mode but i will still lose out on a lot of my storage needs, but frankly i do not want to waste money on that gamble when i know a platform that has all the lanes i need exists, its pricing and SKUs just sucks for us people caught inbetween)

[@ZesPak]

24:50 Yeah, that thumbnail almost had me avoiding the video. Glad I watched it though, good breakdown.

[@castortoutnu]

The Kung Fu Panda movies are genuinely fantastic movies

[@partyflockske]

3:27:20 when i bought the Logitech Harmoney 525, a year later i bought a second one, and 5 years later i bought one on ebay still wrapped... and i love the simplicity and the price of it.. but now i am using the last one...................... ( i hope it will go on for eternaty.. but probably not lol ) .... so a great replacement in that style would be awesome ... I use it for my pc, amplifier, tv, and sattelite decoder.

[@jswbr]

4:13 and that’s how map makers were able to successfully sue Trivial Pursuit for theft

[@garrenodom2554]

The longest discussion in this wan show is about hackers. What a time to be a WAN fan

[@Starscreamious]

The voice actor from Rogue Warrior is Mickey Rourke.

[@Maurus200]

I definitely unlocked a Radeon X800XT and turned it into an X800XTPE. I do sort of miss stuff like that. Good potential for value for those willing to risk bricking their cards.

[@bobhawkey3783]

Linus' sarcasm routine is a classic.

[@Nostalgia_Realm]

2:56:44 I miss cheat codes too, but also the bugs in single player games that always stayed the same. Now with digital ownership, bugs in games will eventually get patched. But back when games were not tied to an online account you just got the gold copy of the game as is. They would have too get a new CD pressed, which definitely happened. Sometimes bugs can be game breaking, but some can be fun to perform. Games at the moment can also completely change from what they were originally, as happened with Fortnite. It has changed a lot since I last played it in like 2019.

[@kristb2604]

Sounds like LTT needs humane mousetraps aka nonkill mousetraps so linus can get his cat tv back :D Edit: 1 min later Linus tells me they have livetraps.

[@slycordinator]

Anything someone adds to on top of a copyrighted work, even things seemingly trivial, are subject to copyright. Song lyric websites don't own copyright to any of the songs/lyrics, yet there have been cases of sites successfully suing competitors for copyright infringement, because of watermarking in the form of changing fonts, unique unicode characters for a letter, etc.

[@Thisandthat8908]

That "nothing" name joke got old quite a while ago. i'm sure that looked like a fun idea when they founded it.

[@cyb3rblitzx530]

Solution to backpack preorder, sell custom backpack shaped gift cards that are the exact value of a backpack pretax and shipping

[@RAYDEEY17]

Can't wait for dbrand to win the lawsuit. I know they will use the money to sponsor Linus and make him do ridiculous things 😅

[@scoastman]

The segue to the sponsors spot was masterful

[@0frikk]

Linus so wrong about Hackers it's funny 😊

[@wpgspecb]

1000% He has no idea what hes talking about and he is watching the movie for what he "wants it to be" and not for what it is. I must have watched that movie 100 times. Fun fact, AJ married her costar (dade) in real life.

[@FAB1150]

Furthermore, the images that end up on the skins are not the raw picture at all, there's loads of clean up and general small modifications made. Even if they had the same scanners with the same settings and ended up with the same image you wouldn't come up with the same skin.