I Think Apple Lied - WAN Show July 14, 2023

[@NoKi1119]

That outro felt like a vivid dream, you might need to duplicate Dan soon! -Timestamps- [0:00] *Chapters.* [1:02] *Intro.* [1:28] *The reason behind late WAN.* [3:00] *Topic #1: Apple's debatable iPhone satisfaction claims.* > 4:00 Satisfaction "rates," 451 Research's odd surveys. [9:56] *Topic #2: Intel discontinues NUC mini PCs.* [Cont.] *Topic #1: Apple's debatable iPhone satisfaction claims.* > 13:35 451 Research's quote on their service. [Cont.] *Topic #2: Intel discontinues NUC mini PCs.* > 14:40 Usages of NUCs, recalling GIGABYTE's BRIX. > 17:20 Intel will still support existing systems. > 18:16 Why did Intel's NUC fail? [20:43] *LTTStore's Lime Day deals.* > 22:38 Free shipping coupon for above $150, calls Nick. [25:40] *Merch Messages #1.* > 26:34 How does it feel to be a big part of peoples' lives? > 28:26 What happened to the CPUs with FPGA? > 32:13 Disney's TaleSpin's "Same danger time, same danger channel." [34:02] *Topic #3: China hijacks government e-mail via Azure.* > 34:26 Skyblivion's Discord was session hijacked. > 36:36 Forged authentications, discussing the danger behind this. [39:58] *LMG & Floatplane is hiring.* [Cont.] *LTTStore's Lime Day deals.* > 40:21 Free global shipping overwhelms DLL. [42:17] *Sponsors.* > 42:31 Seasonic. > 43:07 iFixit. > 43:59 *Secret Shopper - Sponsors Edition.* > 48:16 Vessi. [49:00] *Merch Messages #2.* > 49:10 Is photography allowed during LTT & Labs tour? > 58:16 Would a retired Linus & Luke do WAN Show? ft. Pleading Dan. > 1:05:55 Would LTT's gaming minivan video lead to more camping tech? > 1:09:16 Niche tech interests that wouldn't make it to LTT videos? > 1:12:04 "BOX!" - Jessica 2k23. > 1:12:52 Question about LTT's clickbait methodology. [1:14:29] *Mellow_Labs's "Hit me Dan!" desktop toy.* [1:19:05] *Topic #4: Amazon is not a "large online platform."* > 1:21:14 European retailers, discussing AWS & Amazon's response. > 1:31:36 Linus on how Amazon is not singled out, funny Zalando's photos. > 1:33:08 "Where's your Canadian Tire!?," collectible bills. > 1:36:43 Linus looks at pinball forums & Super Chexx thread. [1:42:08] *Topic #5: EU will require replaceable phone batteries.* [Cont.] *Topic #4: Amazon is not a "large online platform."* > 1:43:11 Video of modified Super Chexx. [Cont.] *Topic #5: EU will require replaceable phone batteries.* > 1:45:17 Would this result in replaceable batteries outside of EU? [1:50:10] *Luke notices the dashboard, "profitable margins."* [1:54:34] *Topic #6: PlayStation 5 Access Controller to release soon.* > 1:57:58 Discussing experience with DualSense. [1:59:50] *Topic #7: NVIDIA pressures board partners to stop building Battlemage GPUs.* [2:07:00] *Topic #8: Windows Update Restored updates old OSs.* [2:08:10] *Topic #9: Battalion 1944 refunds backers.* [2:12:51] *Topic #10: US Telecom cables' toxic lead hazard.* > 2:15:17 Luke on the $400B Broadband scandal. [2:16:56] *Merch Messages #3 ft. On a break Dan, WAN Show After Dark.* > 2:20:26 LTTStore Deskpad with a wrist rest built-in? > 2:22:37 Is it worth buying NAS drives for PLEX/NAS? > 2:23:35 How does LMG manage their supplier issues? > 2:25:07 Managing multi-role employees with LMG's growth? > 2:26:22 Dealing with management when they want to replace working on computers? > 2:27:56 How much in-house engineering do you do at LMG? > 2:29:46 Do you have creative ventures & would you write books? > 2:30:54 Would 16:9 stay the standard, or 21:9 be more widely used? > 2:33:16 Possible conflict of interest with LTT & iFixit? > 2:35:15 Schedules for LTX livestreams? > 2:36:05 LTTStore Sandals update? > 2:39:07 Any AR/VR glasses that are worth the price? > 2:40:23 How is Linus doing as the CVO? > 2:40:39 GS2 smartwatch as a replacement for Pebble? > 2:41:08 What are your best tinkering stories? > 2:45:30 A.I. designed RISC V chip, would A.I. aid with entering the CPU/GPU markets? > 2:46:53 Advice on protecting your devices from threats? > 2:48:52 What to do about GPU water blocks causing wrecked loops? > 2:51:03 Are headset reviews good, despite the lack of content creators? > 2:53:12 What businesses is Linus planning to get into? > 2:55:08 Where to look for discontinued monitors? > 2:55:35 Quickest seller during Lime Days? > 2:56:35 Any special colors for stubby screwdriver? > 2:58:45 Do you miss 5 hour WAN Show? > 3:00:32 Do you expect any mainframe tech to influence consumer electronics? > 3:01:28 How much did you expect to lose from Lime Day? > 3:04:27 ICE or hybrid cars on ShortCircuit? > 3:04:41 What would you say your highest high & lowest low at LMG? > 3:06:14 What would you test the gaming minivan with? > 3:06:58 WAN Show hat update? > 3:07:21 Where to send security concerns or bugs to FP? > 3:07:36 Would consumer feedback polling be useful for LMG? > 3:08:18 Favorite fruit? > 3:09:30 Anything Linus does about his insomnia? > 3:12:24 How do you keep yourself excited about tech? > 3:12:51 Ever considered hiring an analysts to find a trend with KZbin algorithm? > 3:14:26 How to get credible independent reviews you can trust? > 3:15:21 Are you thinking of hiring more management or organization roles? > 3:15:44 Hire writers to review video games for GameLinked? > 3:16:04 How do the ladies feel when they model merch of a channel with men viewers as a majority? > 3:16:59 What is your opinion on ethical pen testing for FP? > 3:18:22 Ever had an interaction with someone you wished you didn't? > 3:19:16 Any chance of LTTStore PJ shorts? > 3:19:33 How do FP developers grow & have a challenge daily? > 3:20:31 Canadian prices shown for LTTStore? > 3:21:01 Possible LTX in Europe? > 3:21:16 Any new baby tech that got your interest? > 3:22:50 How would Linus's retirement party's montage look? > 3:24:56 Could NVIDIA join the CPU market? > 3:25:47 Do you have any bad memories of your past teachers? > 3:29:58 How interested would Linus be to learn programming or web development? > 3:31:05 An automotive tech repair LMG channel? > 3:31:27 Anything to keep in mind with opening a computer repair shop? ft. Dad joke. > 3:32:07 LTTStore Ryzen 7000 CPU pillows? > 3:32:30 Knex automated systems for Linus's home. > 3:32:56 Any chance you'd need a physicist for Labs? > 3:34:15 Whale LAN PC cases that you would use or sell? > 3:35:10 What part of LMG's viewership is outside of NA? > 3:36:41 Events that nearly caused the cancellation of WAN Show? > 3:38:10 Creators Warehouse in Europe? > 3:40:44 What kind of data analysis tools does Labs use? > 3:41:10 Why isn't badminton as big money-wise as tennis? > 3:45:31 Mid-roll commercials in LMG's main channel. > 3:45:52 A service to replace M50X headcups. > 3:47:00 What is the purpose of the XY stereo mic on top of Linus's mic? > 3:47:49 Best job match for content creators when KZbin wouldn't work out? > 3:48:24 Upcoming LTTStore joggers or hoodies? > 3:48:45 Thoughts on shipping software when it's barely ready? > 3:49:10 What piece of tech that baffles you with how old governments are? > 3:51:07 is a comforter still in works? > 3:51:24 How many PCIE lanes do you need? [3:52:18] *$100,000 in sales, Luke on outro merch messages time.* [3:58:26] *Outro.*

[@HouseOfBard]

Be careful now, your a hero.

[@matthewjalovick]

Our Lord and Savior has arrived! Blessings upon you and your family.

[@vfreeman3188]

In thy name

[@adamleinss]

They should hire this guy to do this for every WAN show

[@JF-xj3cu]

thanks man

[@fran2911]

I love that Linus actually explains business costs and operations and doesn't just say "some day", you learn a lot about the complexity behind it all, I really appreciate that.

[@TheDaveQuito]

I’d actually love to go to a class hosted by Linus on the cost to run a business, and like stuff he’s learned about on the way

[@Juanni]

@@TheDaveQuitoI think he would want Yvonne to do most of that, since she’s always focused on the business side of things more than Linus

[@Sithhy]

That's why WAN Show is the only podcast I listen to. They go into great detail into each topic, debating the good & bad etc. not just saying "yeha, that sucks, nothing we can do about it so just give up" like a majority of them (would) do

[@TheDaveQuito]

@@Juanni I really like the way Linus presents stuff, and his views on things

[@fran2911]

@@Sithhy True the only podcasts I listen to in their entirety are the WAN show and TheOfficial podcast which is hilarious

[@LupusYonderboy]

German here. The one time I sleep through the live show you do free shipping! I'm a bit bummed, but I appreciate that you did it and apparently ATE IT HARD lol. You made a lot of people really happy, especially people not from the Americas.

[@fionafiona1146]

It was quite disappointing to me too, I certainly would have taken mystery hoodies for my boyfriend and in "cutting down into a dress" size at 20$

[@canihave1]

Ol

[@jnr2349]

Shipping costs are pretty bad for anyone not in mainland US as well. Just for getting something small to the caribbean it could be $50 and/or take you a month.

[@jakecolam33]

Who else woke up to this

[@minigreenmac08]

I did 😂

[@opred2]

yep LOL

[@Carl2k7]

Bro, I’m so sick of this, because i’ve watched so many 3 hour WAN shows in my sleep, every time I finish watching a video it will load a WAN show straight next! 🤯

[@Somebody_you_met]

Me

[@Duskydog419]

I feel like it plays every four days for me😂

[@bluegizmo1983]

🤣 Luke's hilarious comment "You guys did free GOLBAL SHIPPING?!" and hysterical laughter had me dying

[@saladgreens912]

Halfway through the show we get to see Linus going through depression/grief at all the orders. That’s a lot of money to loose covering shipping fees lmao I genuinely wonder if this sale just ended up loosing them money.

[@SeanSMST]

@@saladgreens912 100%

[@Thepeach_1]

​@@saladgreens912on the other hand they are missing out on a huge market

[@AzarokGames]

@@saladgreens912 100% because lets say they break even. they still have to restock that inv. i would expect them to lose prob 100k tbh like someone could of order the water bottle(onsale) and it cost them 700$ lol

[@BrianG61UK]

@@saladgreens912 Definitely did. Hopefully they'll get some return customers later on that'll begin to make up for it.

[@Rebelzize]

Very cool and very sad that me being hacked was part of this episode🤣 I watched the episode on the LTT and still managed to fall for the same thing.. Anyways thanks again for helping fast track the issue with your contacts, it probably saved a lot damage that could have otherwise been caused.

[@jurriaandejongh8677]

Well, there is going to be a lot more LTT merch in the EU now, that's for sure. Shame I missed it, the shipping costs has been stopping me from getting the screwdriver and many of my friends.

[@woutchauvaux6672]

Saaaaaaame... I really want one. Also not having tax included is so annoying. I put about 100$ of products in my cart (screwdriver and deskpad) and when i go to the final step almost 30$ of tax and 30$ shipping brings it to almost 160$

[@tylerburnell7306]

On the topic of the user replaceable batteries, what if instead of having a removable backplate like old phones, what if it was a cartridge that you could slide out of the bottom or side of the phone, in the same style as a SIM card tray. Just a thought.

[@leodaza2151]

@@tylerburnell7306 This is the way

[@scytob]

When I worked at Microsoft we regarded 451 research as a joke, that was 15 years ago. I am amazed how they survive.

[@fgf80]

If I didn't know better I'd think 451 was a reference to Fahrenheit 451, in which an authoritarian regime burns books to erase evidence of the past and romanticism about the future that might motivate people to change the world. The only reason I'm not sure if that's the point is because it seems like kind of a reach to get from that to misleading polling services.

[@TheEclecticDyslexic]

Them surviving makes perfect sense to me. They exist solely to be confirmation bias for executives with fragile egos.

[@joaomendes3907]

Welp, apparently they survive feeding off corporations like Apple

[@camioincogneato3635]

So not similar ideology to that depicted in the novel 'Fahrenheit 451'?

[@likebot.]

Paid sycophants.

[@adamd316]

Ahh, the good ol' days when a company knew not to push their brand more than "4 out of 5 dentists agree..."

[@timseguine2]

I was always confused as a kid how 4/5 dentists agreed that every brand was better than every other brand.

[@Javalar]

@@timseguine2 You illustrate the beauty of it: they don't, but people think they do. What they actually say is "9/10 dentists recommend", they never say "over other brands". The truth is, close to 100% of dentists recommend essentially all toothpaste brands because they are all perfectly fine. They don't use 10/10 in the ads because that sounds impossible, and since obviously they polled more than 10 dentists and at least one is bound to say no, they can round down to 9/10 and nobody can say they really lied.

[@LaughingOrange]

@@timseguine2 They're not comparing between toothpastes, they're comparing the toothpaste against mouthwash or other low quality tooth cleaning methods.

[@timseguine2]

@@LaughingOrange I didn't know that as a kid now, did I.

[@TheDGITA]

@@Javalar No wait that is not true, the company just cherry-pick data, when they say 9 out 10 dentists recommend this product they mean, BY THE 1000 dentists surveyed by OUR company (mostly sponsored by them), let's take a look just at the part of the data that recommend us, ignoring the dentists who didn't answer or weren't available. It is just marketing.

[@amckimmey]

I really appreciate Luke openly talking with his struggles in school and over coming his dyslexia. As someone who struggled similarly it’s always nice to hear others stories. 3:25:46

[@captainjolly511]

I refuse to buy anything during WAN show until my merch message can be used to hit plastic Linus in the face. Real Work.

[@nate2838]

Yes, THIS!

[@segiraldovi]

It would be wonderful if when making a merch message we had the option of executing the "hit me dan"

[@tehPete]

Indeed; it was the first thought that crossed my mind the moment I saw it, and if it had been set up today to punch every time a merch message came in it would have been hilarious. A 'facepalm' alternative for the fist might be a good idea though!

[@Daniel-dj7fh]

If you don't have to pay 24bucks for shipping, gönn dir

[@Daniel-dj7fh]

gönn dir is German for something like, "treat yourself"

[@ZiggyMercury]

- Bernard: "They had an opinion poll done, it seems all the voters are in favor of bringing back National Service" - Humphry: "Well, have another opinion poll done showing the voters are against bringing back National Service" - Bernard: "They can't be for it and against it" - Humphry: "Of course they can, Bernard... You know what happens: a nice young lady comes up to you, obviously you want to create a good impression... So she starts asking you some questions: 'Are you worried about the number of young people without jobs?' " - Bernard: "Yes" - Humphry: "'Are you worried about the rise in crime among teenagers?'" - Bernard: "Yes" - Humphry: "'Do you think there's a lack of discipline in our schools?'" - Bernard: "Yes" - Humphry: "'Do you think young people welcome some authority and leadership in their lives?'" - Bernard: "Yes" - Humphry: "'Do you think they respond to a challenge?'" - Bernard: "Yes" - Humphry: "'Would you be in favor of reintroducing the National Service?'" - Bernard: "Yes" - Humphry: "Of course you would, Bernard, after all you've told you can't say no to that... So, alternatively, the young lady can get the opposite result" - Bernard: "How?" - Humphry: "'Are you worried about the danger of war?'" - Bernard: "Yes" - Humphry: "'Are you worried about the growth of armaments?'" - Bernard: "Yes" - Humphry: "'Do you think there is a danger in giving young people guns and teaching them how to kill?'" - Bernard: "Yes" - Humphry: "'Do you think it's wrong to force people to take up arms against their will?'" - Bernard: "Yes" - Humphry: "'Would you oppose the reintroduction of National Sevice?'" - Bernard: "Yes" - Humphry: "There you are, you see, Bernard... The perfect, balanced sample" ("Yes, Prime Minister")

[@DrSloww]

I am not reading this

[@MandaClaudiuMCM]

​@@DrSlowwI couldn't either, but I did manage to read your comment 😂

[@SasidharPamganamamula]

​@@DrSlowwno one has to read it but everyone should already know it. One of the smartest comedies ever created.

[@DrSloww]

@@SasidharPamganamamula i prefer farts and poop

[@paulh009]

What is this from? It gives me vibes from the Australian defense policy skit.

[@MrTomHill]

The return of the 4 hour WAN show.

[@smashed_penguin]

3:59:08 but close enough

[@PHDarren]

Ex-CEO has time on his hands now.

[@castortoutnu]

Not even

[@BrianDickens4]

You liar! It's 52 seconds short! 😋

[@elusivelectron]

So it's super late so they put on a 4 hour show.

[@justinseans]

The kickstarter refund is the best thing i've heard. I never heard of it but to see people do what's right is nice,

[@jacobt1045]

We must make sure to ask each WAN show, until the final numbers are in, for how much Linus lost with the free shipping.

[@de89456]

T Tyy😮😮😮 T😮😮😮

[@de89456]

😮😮😮😮 Tutu Ty

[@SegmentW]

1:17:56 Luke's reaction to Dan's enthusiasm for hooking up the 'hit me Dan' button was great

[@justinchong1136]

Love how they do a 4 hr show past midnight live. They def love their job.

[@jacobpierce2548]

I think that’s what makes WAN so enjoyable. They are obviously relaxed and in their element. Just two bros chatting

[@wobblysauce]

The rolling timezones... as people go to tsleep and other wake up.

[@justinchong1136]

@@wobblysauce lol yeah. Fell asleep waiting for my regular dose. Got it as a surprise next day though

[@nemtudom5074]

They do it because they like it, not because they have to. You can bet your ass that they'd stop if they didnt enjoy it

[@tylerburnell7306]

On the topic of the user replaceable batteries, what if instead of having a removable backplate like old phones, what if it was a cartridge that you could slide out of the bottom or side of the phone, in the same style as a SIM card tray. Just a thought.

[@michaelmayhem350]

47:52 Linus talked about secret shopper sponsers a year ago. I'm so excited it's finally happening.

[@MrMartinSchou]

Amazon's argument really boils down to "we're different because it's the internet!" Like the good old days of "it's a shopping cart, but it's online, so we filed a patent for it!"

[@BogDrakonov]

Oh man! I love the NUCs! Nice ratio of heat/energy usage vs the compute power you get. When I lived in an apartment I had a whole bunch of NUCs running as servers. They made apartment home labs possible.

[@siggy6044]

I had an American Government teacher in high school that gave us a test on the first day. It was the American Citizenship test, and he told us if any of us got 100% on it we didn't have to come to class the rest of the semester and would get full marks as we already knew everything the class would cover. It was something he did with every class, and up to that point had never had a student get 100%.

[@riba2233]

Yeah, pretty ironic

[@kazzxtrismus]

weird flex to test people who signed up for a class to teach them that thing in the first place. weirder flex to pull on kids....and not adults who are also desperate to start a new life. ( it IS a class for new immigrants to sign up for readily available everywhere) adults can blaze through a highschool or college course with ease because most adults have learned to learn and focus and work hard...... Adults dont because nearly nobody can afford to put everything on hold for 4 years take near zero pay and still pay for a family.... and by the time youre 30 you realize college has been a waste of time since the 60s because you could have learned all thats needed in a year or 2 at work (as an adult) even most kids dont need it stretched to 4 years

[@aeaeaeaeoaeaeaeaeae]

​@@kazzxtrismusamerican government is a required part of the curriculum in many states, you dont sign up to take it

[@Lamb666]

@@aeaeaeaeoaeaeaeaeaecan’t argue with someone trying to be a pseudo intellectual that failed English.

[@kunicrossgaming]

It's the same in most countries with those tests, I think students are probably the most likely people to nail them.

[@PattleBass]

4 hour WAN show... Nature is healing

[@Skylancer727]

I will say NUCs were everywhere in commercial use. Basically every office I went in and even every single display running at Amazon had a NUC at it. But even then, many were made by HP. Plus many didn't even have the computer mounted on the back of the display, the ones displaying door info were just placed on a steel plate hanging off the wall.

[@AaronShenghao]

Yeah the skull is... Not so business friendly

[@SteamHeinz]

NUC´s in business? I mean those were overpriced since they exist, companies don´t thend to pay more if they can get the same result cheaper. You sure you don´t mean something with a similar formfactor?

[@stefan514]

​@@SteamHeinzeach and every (large) company I ever worked at or with had complete overpriced hardware. In those size categories you'll have only a very small amount of products that can fulfill the extremely broad and at the same time specific specifications.

[@Skylancer727]

@user-zk5wm9vz7p remember that they buy in bulk. Plus they didn't tend to have the newest models. Even the new ones tend to be old stock for cheaper prices. Remember that in many cases performance didn't really matter in these cases. As long as it could run a display and connect to the internet it was good enough.

[@jonatanrullman]

My sister I think still has their first gen and my brother for sure still has a fifth gen as his only computer. In both cases it was a question of really cramped office spaces and not minding spending $50 extra on something really small. Though frankly those first gen where so cheap I wouldn't be surprised if a full size equivalent would have been $100 more than the nuc.

[@cdangers]

Apple tech support here.. I directly hear from customers every day. You'd be surprised how many tell me they want to chuck their 14 and how their previous phones had less issues.

[@Butterbean32]

I would assume that’s just every year though, no?

[@Isengardtom]

@@Butterbean32probably to some degree yes, but it’s definitely gotten worse. Longtime iPhone user here

[@mysteriousm1]

What kind of issues are they having on the 14? I may have the pro version, but this is the best iPhone I’ve ever had

[@RichardCalder67]

I laughed out loud at Luke's comment about the kids not wanting to get out of the van. Many years ago we bought a Caravan with a DVD player for the back seat. We bought Weird Al's UHF at Costco one day and put it on for the kids on the way home. They all wanted to stay in the van until it was done xD

[@mcgherkinstudios]

UHF, what a film.

[@StewPedassle]

The comment at 2:14:06 that lead "tastes good" is actually true and part of the problem -- lead tastes sweet. The reason for "eating paint chips" being a meme was because small kids will put anything in their mouths, and when they discover it tastes sweet, it becomes something they seek. Similar reason to smelling exhaust fumes from the combustion of leaded gas (though that one I haven't really looked for further support than the person who told me, am older chemist I knew)

[@BlankDolphin]

Waiting for timestamp guy feels like forever

[@lifehackerhansol]

maybe they fell asleep waiting for the livestream lol

[@TetyLike3]

​@@lifehackerhansoltimestamp man never disappoints tho

[@Blodwynnn]

@@TetyLike3they’re actively disappointing

[@TehKazlehoff]

I r currently disappoint

[@bycare]

Yeah, I'm not watching this without timestamps. Can someone reply when timestamps are posted?

[@krysin]

As far as shipping goes, i actually just wish you would have the option to take orders for a country, say Australia and ship them over here in bulk then have them reshipped in their orders from there. Theres so many things i would like to have, but the shipping is usually 3x the price of the item.

[@sandmaster4444]

I wonder if they could do a subscribe and save type model: if you order from AUS, LTT will partner with a "local" company and ship in bulk to them for "local" redistribution if the total is over $XX,XXX on day Y of the month. They deal with shipping, taxes, and partnership once per month at most and can set the region minimum in accordance with their needed margins. Might get a lot of "Oh shit! AUS hit the target and cutoff is in 5 days! Tell your friends to get their order in!!"

[@druss5000]

You need to get some friends and do a group order. I just did that with a mate and the shipping cost was actually quite reasonable. Spent roughly $150 USD and shipping was $30 USD.

[@eastieoaks]

The not-quite-4-hour-WAN-Show

[@andreimadalin2526]

@Premier-Media-Group 7:18 More people like Kim Jong Un and Tim Cook than Linus and Luke (and Dan). 13:00 Linus says he can build a LTT Water Bottle PC that's better than an Intel NUC. 24:40 Linus retires from LMG CEO position, immediately tries to bankrupt company. 28:00 Linus takes credit for Canada wildfire outbreaks (too soon?). 37:15 The United States' NSA, which formerly was colloquially referred to as "No Such Agency", has rebranded itself as an, "Unspecified U.S. Government Agency" - causing headaches for agency branding specialists. 42:35 LTT sings the praises of other companies (for a fee) and Dennis makes a cameo. 46:45 enters the chat. 52:20 Luke admits to social engineering on Dan "a LOT". 59:00 Luke gazes deeply into the eyes of Producer Dan. Linus gets jealous and gets rid of Dan. 1:07:15 Linus willingly scoffs at U.S. $77.4 billion camping industry - states it's "too niche" to make videos for. 1:16:04 Luke punches Linus in the face and laughs about it. 1:19:55 Amazon says it's a European "mom & pop" business that hates minors. 1:35:15 Canadian Tire was THE first meme-coin. 1:50:00 Linus wants Apple to screw more. 1:56:39 Luke extolls the virtues of capitalism. 2:00:55 Linus proves to the world that he is still a shill for NVIDIA. 2:07:45 Windows ME and the Cole-Bar hammer collab? 2:10:00 Bulkhead earns the "Trust Me Bro" seal of approval. 2:12:55 Verizon saves money, kills kids. 2:17:25 WAN Show goes dark again, viewers break things. 2:18:20 Linus admits that Dan likes it rough; Dan shares his safe word with the world. 2:22:11 Luke tells Linus to work more, whine less. 2:23:00 Linus admits to wasting millions in Lab investments. 2:32:32 Linus farts, scares crap out of Dan. 2:36:31 $120k for a single LTT sandal. 2:39:00 Linus to be homeless because of free shipping success? 2:44:05 Luke liked to poke his pencil for power. 2:54:50 LMG to take on retro gaming mods; puts the onus on new CEO. 3:10:00 Sleepless in Vancouver? Linus admits to taking drugs to sleep better. 3:26:36 Luke blames 3 teachers for where he ended up in life. 3:32:00 Luke & Linus crap on viewer's dreams. 3:35:30 Linus dismisses importance of gay and/or German viewers. 3:43:10 Linus hates badminton camera operators (and match announcers). 3:49:25 Linus' boomer outburst about TikTok, Snapchat filters, and voicemail. 3:54:00 LLD have created a monster (or, "Linus Prefers Bubble Hockey to Dan's Overtime"). 3:58:35 "Gone in 0.5 Seconds" - Dan full sends Merch Messages.

[@TylerJones]

All of these times are like 10-45 seconds too late and it bugs me

[@emiliapains5527]

You’re a saint

[@damianich4824]

Can't believe I caught a live Wan Show from Europe after I woke up

[@tardvandecluntproductions1278]

I was confused too when I woke up and saw them live.

[@TechHorse888]

The main thing i loved about the NUCs, is that Intel had driver bundles for them on their site. One download, and you got all the latest drivers.

[@pepijn_m]

thank you for the free shipping! It was always to expensive for me because the shipping would be 30 and taxes would come on top of it only during payment. Making just buying the screwdriver to expensive(for me). I know that in the US it's normal to calculate taxes later but in the Netherlands, it's normally included in the product's price. So we aren't used to the price being a lot higher during checkout.

[@Kyle496]

I wish it was like that in the US. It was annoying when I had to keep track of how much I was buying in the grocery store and add about 10% tax (tax isn't that high, just kept me under budget). It's worse you go buy a car and they don't include taxes, registration fee, and all the other "because fuck you" fees and it's an extra 1 or 2 thousand dollars.

[@mikavbtje]

yeah I have the same problem as a Dutchie, let us choose or make it change automatically depending on your location (ip)

[@EpicWolverine]

@@mikavbtjeare there regional taxes? Doing it by IP probably isn’t precise enough, or may risk displaying an inaccurate price if your IP is not where you are. I think you’d have to be signed in to an account with an address already on file.

[@onatgz]

we use nucs at the airport i work. they are built into podiums with wheels. light, mobile, gets the job done and adding peripherals with special uses (like keyboards that have that passport swipe thingy) is easier to do than it is with a laptop.

[@matthewthedude146]

Almost 5am here on the east cost thanks Linus and Luke for the 4 hour stream!!!

[@FrederickMarcoux]

I went to sleep instead haha couldn't wait anymore for it to start 😂

[@iwontliveinfear]

​​@@FrederickMarcoux paused it after the Apple story, and will watch the rest now.

[@BS-eh1zf]

For me as a German the Intel NUCs made a lot of sense as small home servers because of their energy efficiency (Idle around 5-7W from the wall!). We pay 0.30 - 0.50€ (~0,45-0,75CAD) per kWh after all.

[@Icefumy]

Meanwhile here in the neighboring country The Netherlands it's about 'only' about 0,20€ per kWh..

[@fionafiona1146]

​@@Icefumyit's a result of conservatives fucking with energy policy after the 2009 elections and 2011 reactions to Fukushima. There are moments when electric power is free in Bremen (the same wind you get) and 64ct KWh down at Munich (the infrastructure to avoid that was planned by 2006 and construction had started)

[@fionafiona1146]

@Taistelupelto420 the 2009 plans wouldn't have left us in that mess. Shutting down coal as late as 2038 is embarrassing but Germany is still ahead of other nations in that matter

[@Dadgrammer]

Finally wan show in Europe time zone

[@Spenczar1]

Linus now suspect #1 in Canadian fires arson investigation. “Starting little fires everywhere”

[@abyssunderground]

Does anyone else not bother watching these until there's topic timestamps?

[@FarisEdits]

sometimes yes

[@Kanhow]

Always, perfect to listen too when do work around the house.

[@lukacolic4193]

Yeah, most of the time. Skipping topics idgaf is great

[@privatedoorknob7408]

​@@PippetWhippetthat is how I watch as well. Great background to work with

[@Premier-Media-Group]

*Clickbait WAN Show Timestamps* 7:18 More people like Kim Jong Un and Tim Cook than Linus and Luke (and Dan). 13:00 Linus says he can build a LTT Water Bottle PC that's better than an Intel NUC. 24:40 Linus retires from LMG CEO position, immediately tries to bankrupt company. 28:00 Linus takes credit for Canada wildfire outbreaks (too soon?). 37:15 The United States' NSA, which formerly was colloquially referred to as "No Such Agency", has rebranded itself as an, "Unspecified U.S. Government Agency" - causing headaches for agency branding specialists. 42:35 LTT sings the praises of other companies (for a fee) and Dennis makes a cameo. 46:45 enters the chat. 52:20 Luke admits to social engineering on Dan "a LOT". 59:00 Luke gazes deeply into the eyes of Producer Dan. Linus gets jealous and gets rid of Dan. 1:07:15 Linus willingly scoffs at U.S. $77.4 billion camping industry - states it's "too niche" to make videos for. 1:16:04 Luke punches Linus in the face and laughs about it. 1:19:55 Amazon says it's a European "mom & pop" business that hates minors. 1:35:15 Canadian Tire was THE first meme-coin. 1:50:00 Linus wants Apple to screw more. 1:56:39 Luke extolls the virtues of capitalism. 2:00:55 Linus proves to the world that he is still a shill for NVIDIA. 2:07:45 Windows ME and the Cole-Bar hammer collab? 2:10:00 Bulkhead earns the "Trust Me Bro" seal of approval. 2:12:55 Verizon saves money, kills kids. 2:17:25 WAN Show goes dark again, viewers break things. 2:18:20 Linus admits that Dan likes it rough; Dan shares his safe word with the world. 2:22:11 Luke tells Linus to work more, whine less. 2:23:00 Linus admits to wasting millions in Lab investments. 2:32:32 Linus farts, scares crap out of Dan. 2:36:31 $120k for a single LTT sandal. 2:39:00 Linus to be homeless because of free shipping success? 2:44:05 Luke liked to poke his pencil for power. 2:54:50 LMG to take on retro gaming mods; puts the onus on new CEO. 3:10:00 Sleepless in Vancouver? Linus admits to taking drugs to sleep better. 3:26:36 Luke blames 3 teachers for where he ended up in life. 3:32:00 Luke & Linus crap on viewer's dreams. 3:35:30 Linus dismisses importance of gay and/or German viewers. 3:43:10 Linus hates badminton camera operators (and match announcers). 3:49:25 Linus' boomer outburst about TikTok, Snapchat filters, and voicemail. 3:54:00 LLD have created a monster (or, "Linus Prefers Bubble Hockey to Dan's Overtime"). 3:58:35 "Gone in 0.5 Seconds" - Dan full sends Merch Messages.

[@ElementiaYT]

You’re a hero

[@Rotzahn]

I mean at least you are honest xD. Thanks, now i at least have a vague idea what i can skip :D

[@tj_enju]

awesome....

[@TheSirGoreaxe]

On the NUC front. I recommend that non technical family members that don't game should be using these. I got my mom an Beelink version for Christmas because she was using an old computer. It's supper small, she constantly only puts it to sleep so being efficient is great, and it pulls it's weight for the internet applications that she uses.

[@JAT985]

Asrock makes mini pcs very similar to the NUCs. Also they make AMD variants.

[@zyetta]

Those rare teachers don't get enough credit and appreciation for the fires they've lit

[@carlosmafia]

This was honestly the funniest episode of Wan Show I can remember. The free global shipping, the British Museum joke, so damn much laughter today.

[@AJMansfield1]

19:30 The card systems weren't for upgradability, they were for security compliance. You'd use them to make it easier to lock all the computers up in a vault each night, comply with contractual requirements to use totally separate hardware for different clients' projects, and enable hot-desking office layouts.

[@xDylzan]

I think Linus describing tennis scoring is the first time I've literally said "What? That's not how it works!" out loud while watching WAN show lol

[@freakazoid9889]

Regarding the NUCs. I use to recommend them to companies as Point of Sale Machines, retail spots often don't have a lot of space at the checkout counter. Depending on setup, being able to mount it on the back of the monitor was useful too.

[@Woodie-xq1ew]

6:30 that should be Apple’s new marketing slogan “IPhone 14, more popular than dictators” 😂😂😂😂

[@ipanesm]

3:43:45 excuse me? from google: "Tennis is a series of single-point battles that end when one player - or a pair in doubles - fail to play a legal return, meaning the opponent's score. " what does linus mean by tennis only making a point if you are serving? does them grossly misunderstood tennis?

[@developerpranav]

Thank you in advance, our timestamp hero! :)

[@corprall]

Thanks for being my entertainment on my unexpected drive across NZ for work immediately after waking up on a Sunday.

[@miikavuorio6925]

2:05:47 "thankfully intel runs their own fabs so they can play a little loose with the numbers" when discussing arc, but isn't arc fabbed by TSMC

[@Tommy_The_Gun]

Fun fact regarding old Play Sation controllers: PSX Dual Shock 1 did not had joystick drift. None. At all. How is a 25 year controller able to work let alone not have joystick drift ? Well, this comes from the times where thing were build to last. And as fot they joypad - it is made in a way in which it is always calibrating itself (moving away and back to center). Modern gamepads are made cheaper as they are not calibrated at all. I still have it and it still works. You can even connect it to PC and it will work with modern games. Amazing.

[@VinceW187]

Just smashed my face into my desk, could have watched the show live yesterday because you started so late, instead I decided to safe it for later. Now I learn there was free global shipping😂😂😂😂 You guys are nuts!!! Guess you saved yourself one massive shipment to Europe

[@javepadolina2383]

Qxz

[@PAINTnPONG]

Thank you for a long show, these are my favorite things to watch each Saturday :)

[@melonmelon2848]

Good show, guys! Hope that shipping promo mishap doesn't get you into too much troubles =/ Your team insistence on keeping your promises really is inspiring, I wish me a small business owner can emulate this too When my team can get our thin margin sorted out in the future, we definitely want to up our customer service game!

[@narayankumarneodankhara3932]

Hey Linus & LTT Team. What a week. I want you to know I am all in with you and your team. So take a breath and keep a calm. Now you had been making mistakes but you are human after all. Own your mistakes and most of all take your time to make change in LMG operations. It is not necessory to complete whole revamp process to be completed in 1 week. Take your time. If it requires more time it is not big problem for viewers. If it takes more time than video log it and realease it so we can feel connected to you guys. If you feel hammered from all sides I want you to ask these questions to your self. 1) Why you started LTT ?, 2) what was your motivation to start LTT ?, 3) What are the thing you would never do (off limits) for the good of your viewers ?, 4) What was your goal (vision) to start LTT ? ( I ) think you will get most of your answer for these troubled times. Take criticism to your heart and work on which is relevant. And remember if there is criticism that means you are progressing in your life.

[@Szaboo92]

Ure blinded bro.

[@sorrynotsorry8224]

As an Australian who would love to purchase some of your merch but will never due to the outrageous shipping costs, I wish I had the cash available to make a few purchases during the free shipping offer.

[@pino_de_vogel]

Same here in europe. Shipping costs are more then the water bottle...

[@stefan514]

It's all due to their refusal to simply pick a European distribution company based on some weird fears. Since the merch sells quite well, they would easily get into any European distributor with a quite nice split. Shipping for the end customer would fall to almost nothing, sales would increase. Easy decision

[@sorrynotsorry8224]

@@stefan514 Might sell well but not well enough. Also a European distributor would not help Australians at all. Shipping from the EU costs more than shipping from the US/Canada.

[@kazzxtrismus]

@@sorrynotsorry8224 canadian shipping rates are worse than european... i cant ship wireless earbuds to the next town for less than $15 canadian. canadian shipping rates are ruining the canadian economy WITHIN canada... let alone the pennies most of the world expects to pay by comparison... canadian companies offer free shipping on small items valued over $100 (minimum) europeans spend pounds and euro's like dollars....but your shipping is cheap! i sent a special metal hydraulic fitting the size of your finger to japan it cost $100 for the 3 week slow boat

[@stefan514]

​@@sorrynotsorry8224sorry for picking a specific example. One that's much more relevant than Australia. My bad that I didn't specifically say that this will only benefit the European market and not the Australian market. Because that's not extremely obvious

[@Theschoolbusdriver]

After watching for years I finally caught this live bought something and wrote a Merch Message. Just as it was about to come up Linus tabbed over to a different screen and back and my message was gone lol. Edit: Never mind they did it later at 2:41:08 about my Tinkering with Atari 2600 carts!

[@Jan12700]

We use mini PCs in the company all the time. They are simply easier to transport, to store and take up less space on or under the desk. Also with modern CPUs like Ryzen 5000 they are as fast as normal PCs. In particular we use the Lenovo ThinkCentre M75q with AMD Hardware, they are really good and reliable. We used to also have Dell Mini PCs but their Bios was just trash, you could hardly find any settings there and they crashed often or didn't boot into windows. 37:50 It's really dangerous but it's also a work much to use and maintain an Exchange Server. 1:46:42 Sadly there is one, the rule doesn't apply for things that are water proof up to some degree.

[@Altirix_]

NUCs were perfect for a tiny homelab, the price for new hardware vs an itx pc of similar performance made them tricky to see much of a benefit

[@lootmaster1337]

guess ill wait till the gigachad timestampguy helps navigate this 4 hour thing

[@nacoran]

I have a Chevy Spark I bought back in 2015. It had a 5 star user satisfaction rating. How did it get that? Guilt. They had two separate survey systems... one for actual in house stuff so they could improve their service, but another whole set to use in their advertising. You were told that if you didn't give your salesman 5 stars across the board he wouldn't be given his commission. Same thing for repairs- if you don't give your mechanic 5 stars he doesn't get paid for the job- but they had a whole different set of books for in house use. They were also insanely pushy with marketing. Within a year they were calling me asking me if I'd like to trade my new car in on another car. I'm a light driver (I'm at about 21k miles on that car here in 2023... I told them when I bought it I hoped to get 20 years out of it). They wouldn't stop calling. I keep weird hours and they kept waking me up. Apparently each department had its own phone number list. It took me a year of me angrily telling them to stop, including having to call them and go through several levels of management and reporting them to the Do Not Call Registry, NYS AG and constantly attacking the dealership on their FB page to just get them to stop calling me. I suspect Apple is doing it more for sales than for corporate. I suspect people buying stock are a little more sophisticated than the average Apple user.

[@abrodeur]

Got love them calling 6 largest grocery chain in the world "not large".

[@DivinityOfBLaze]

Enormous? Massive? Maybe that's their pet peeve

[@nullvoid3545]

Given how company's eat each other. Maybe the sixth largest is genuinely small and the other 5 are just massive conglomerates. The US only has like 2 or 3 grocery corps.

[@Arrynek01]

In case I miss it, which chain is that?

[@kuhluhOG]

@@nullvoid3545 Aldi (and Lidl who is on place 5) are huge it's just that their individual shops are small compared to e.g. Walmart

[@boscorner]

Maybe he was making a joke about the name sounding like little

[@Genzzry]

Linus sitting there worried nobody would wanna watch VR stuff... ...and here's me sitting with a Valve Index wanting to see more VR tech like vests, force-feedback gloves like the DIY ones they covered, 6DOF motional platforms, omni-directional treadmills, etc. You have the platform to promote VR & advances to the masses dude... go for it !

[@saladgreens912]

If my haptic feedback vest doesn’t simulate exit wounds I don’t want it!

[@CR7Ashironaldo]

why can't LTT post timestamps themselves when they live stream this ?

[@bm830810]

probably it lowers average watchtime else linus would have sorted it out.

[@MrEchoco]

For myself, a mini pc suited me due to wattage usage as well as size. I lived boondocked/traveling in a motorhome and wanted something I could run off my ecoflow / monitor. Yes, I could have gone with a new build, but I wanted something super small attached to the back of the monitor as I have it compact/tucked away easily (gaming + streaming). But I don't see it applicable in a lot of situations tbh.

[@voltare2amstereo]

As soon as Linus said free shipping, I bought a back pack, sxrewie and hoodie Shopping to Australia is usually $120aud So I jumped on it

[@wario7393]

How is it that every single time I watched a tech related videos and fell asleep to it, I will ended up with an LTT videos playing in the background

[@Maxinfamilyy]

I'm so sad I missed the free shipping 😢 but at the same time grateful I would have probably blown 300-500$ hahahaha Thanks for the show! Looking forward for the next free shipping day 😂

[@jire8989]

If you can blow 300-500, you can afford shipping

[@Maxinfamilyy]

@@jire8989 that's precisely my point. If I don't intend to spend that money without the discount in the first place, I shouldn't be blowing that much money because of a 20$ discount (it was meant to be a joke anyway 🙂)

[@Daqsun]

That box is now my box to South Africa. Love you guys, all the loves from South Africa

[@AaronShenghao]

Just saying. Anyone in EU stayed for this WAN show, they deserve the free shipping… it’s 4-5 o’clock in the morning…

[@CJonestheSteam72]

I woke up at 6am in the UK and it was only going for an hour

[@aaronjamt]

I know I'm a bit late here but a really good use case for gaming NUCs is VR: you could easily make a "backpack" with a NUC and a wired VR headset to make a cheap "wireless" VR setup Edit: And obviously a battery, but that's fairly simple with the 12v power input

[@treborrrrr]

Hey, has anyone mentioned the length of the stream yet? Did you know it was four hours? Well, not quite four hours, but very close. Did you know that this is quite a long time? Did you notice how it's longer than average? It was four hours guys. I'm not sure if anyone but me noticed or mentioned it, but it was actually four hours long. The show that is, the show was four hours long. That's longer than three hours actually. I just wanted to make sure you were aware of the fact that the show was four hours long.

[@rikwisselink-bijker]

I would also have bought a backpack if I had been in time for the sale.. I hope they do this again some time

[@dinodubin9241]

DAMN IT, if i knew WAN show was gonna be morning EU time i would of tuned in when i woke up hahahah

[@uptwist2260]

All merch messages were readable at the end. Just gatta go frame by frame. For those on desktop, its the comma keys to go back a frame and the period to go forward a frame.

[@goncal0mb]

57:55: Sorry Linus, apparently someone did upload video of that, in glorious 4K kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y6qcaXdta9Oqn9k. It was not that bad, you did touch rackets in the end. :)

[@LightPink]

He even brought the in-laws 😭

[@StewChicken42]

I love the confusion @ the Zolando site part of the show. "What is happening right now" just hit. 😂 I agree.

[@i-wanna-be-adored]

Timestamp guy

[@Qoushik]

Those merch message replies at the end were very much readable if you go frame by frame

[@thedayb4tomorrow]

AWS is relatively small in terms of "revenue" but it makes up 3/4 of Amazon's profit.

[@web_dev_cz]

Thank you Linus for mentioning the footprint of the PC. This was the ultimate reason I bought Louqe Raw instead of Ghost.

[@ff-qf1th]

"not a very large online platform" AWS hosts like a third of the internet

[@jasonpeterson5476]

The answer to the puzzle at 12:55 is that the phone takes up more space on the desk top surface because the length of the phone is greater than the diameter of the water bottle, but the height of the water bottle is greater than the height of the phone and the overall area and volume of the water bottle is greater than the phone so the water bottle takes up more space in general

[@tomleake8227]

Many military personnel use small computers as they can fit in a backpack or a deployment bag/ sack. Certain military's had found there personnel using a small computer like the Intel as a way to keep in contact with friends and family while on deployment, instead of taking up the FOB base phones, not to mention the use of gaming as a stress relief system when not on a operation.

[@LightPink]

Proof? Seems like a laptop would be the better device in this situation.

[@aldarrin]

@@LightPink This. Steam Deck makes more sense than a NUC. OP is right that space is at a premium, but so much so that the monitor, KB, mouse, etc is a problem.

[@djp_video]

The Intel NUC is a great little computer for what it is. I have about a dozen of them. I use them heavily for my video production business, primarily in my video production trailer. I can fit six of them on a shelf in a single equipment rack space (though I usually don't run that many at once). They can also be powered on 12V, which makes them really easy to run on battery/solar. I also have them in my guest bedrooms, tucked behind and connected to the TVs in those rooms. It makes it easy to give someone a computer they can work on while staying with me without taking up any space and having to mess with an HDMI cable from their laptops. I also use one as my home theater PC, running Plex. Works great for that.

[@DropTheNaOH]

Just ordered a screwdriver set with all the available bit sets!! Can’t wait to receive it! Love from Alberta! Will get the other bit sets when they are available.

[@tbrooke3016]

Luke telling the story of his dyslexia growing up felt really relatable. Hitting me in the feels

[@CubesAndPortals]

I'd tune in weekly for "old man linus yells at The Cloud"

[@tylerburnell7306]

On the topic of the user replaceable batteries, what if instead of having a removable backplate like old phones, what if it was a cartridge that you could slide out of the bottom or side of the phone, in the same style as a SIM card tray. Just a thought.

[@milamber319]

As an aussie it only made sense this time to buy a backpack. But maybe next time say $50 off shipping or something. That would cover most people at least a good chunk of the shipping without losing $200 on those wierd outliers

[@saladgreens912]

Aren’t you one of those weird outliers though? Can’t think of anywhere more outlier than aussiland.

[@milamber319]

@@saladgreens912 I mean if you think it's as expensive to get something here as some small pacific island you might need to recalibrate a little.

[@saladgreens912]

@@milamber319 You know what fair enough. I just hear a lot of complaints from the Aussies I know so that's just a bias on my part lol.

[@milamber319]

@@saladgreens912 to be fair I don't actually know what the comparison is. And Australia is a big arse country. I'm sure it's much more expensive to get something to Alice Springs than metro Melbourne. But it's about the same to get something here as Europe as far as I can figure.

[@saladgreens912]

​@@milamber319 I just mean in general there are a lot less options for ground shipping. Always hear complaints about nothing coming to austral so costs extra.

[@yenahh6954]

Not the "Good morning" i expected

[@georgeburduli7343]

Timestamp guy, we need you :(

[@HappyGutenberg]

I’m big fan since 2015 still watching when I have time, and I’m sure Linus is great guy but he is a bit Norotic and all over the place and his wife is the one that hold everything together so kudos to here and keep up the great job your doing 🤟😊

[@astra_m00n]

The voice message rant from Linus, made me feel like I am not the anomaly in hating them. Thank you! People that send them to me will know, I just wait until I am home and on my PC before I even bother listening to them.

[@jpjapers]

If anything the volume of european orders shows that you really need to sort out distribution outside of Canada and North America. The only time id ever consider ordering is when you have discounted shipping internationally because it often doubles the price of the order.

[@Neuzahnstein]

and in Austria (think in rest of europe as well?). A custome fee (not Tax) is applied at values above 150€.

[@jpjapers]

@@Neuzahnstein I cant confirm for sure as im in the UK and 52% of our country voted to create our own mess. But customs fees definitely would apply over a certain value.

[@OberstStein]

I hope Linus meantions at some point how high the shipping costs of that sale where.

[@Freakinkat]

Planning a trip and expecting everything to go as planned is such a wishful thing it's always interesting to hear how it was envisioned and how it actually turned out

[@twitch7406]

Wheres timestamp man? 😭

[@tuganms]

You need to address the Europe shipping if you want to sell more here! I have the last months/years fill the lttsore basket multiple ocasions with more then 100$ to later cancel due to the insane shipping costs, not accounting for the possible customshouse fees...