DC Absolute Universe Is Just New 52 All Over Again

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@jonnjones8263
@jonnjones8263 9 сағат бұрын
They should've just made the New 52 their ultimate universe in the first place.
@maxmazzotti6651
@maxmazzotti6651 6 сағат бұрын
I cannot agree more
@Lanterns_light
@Lanterns_light 4 сағат бұрын
Pass
@brandonscott4808
@brandonscott4808 3 сағат бұрын
It could've worked too, had DC not gone with 52 titles, start out small with a few heroes/teams active, tone down on the multiple solo titles of Batman (and even Superman), give the Wildstorm characters more screen time, and have an established time frame for the continuity to work. But to be honest, I think Flashpoint never should have merged Vertigo and Wildstorm as those universes should have stayed separate. Flashpoint could've also undid the merging of the previous Earths that occurred back in Crisis On Infinite Earths and start the new era of the New 52 on Earth 1.
@jaylucien669
@jaylucien669 2 сағат бұрын
💯
@Ali-dp3md
@Ali-dp3md 9 сағат бұрын
This is such a good take on the DC scene. I hope Snyder already has a clear idea on how to conclude the absolute universe before everything crashes.
@Awakeandalive1
@Awakeandalive1 6 сағат бұрын
I think you're not taking into account how many younger people got into DC because of the Justice League cartoons. I legitimately know guys whose favourite comic character is Martian Manhunter thanks to those cartoons.
@ryanwilliams7639
@ryanwilliams7639 10 сағат бұрын
Wes are you going to cover Mark Waid saying he’s done with Superhero comics because Trump won the election?😂😂😂
@john-zi9su
@john-zi9su 10 сағат бұрын
Really? No fooling? I hope so because that would be great.
@lorcankelly8871
@lorcankelly8871 9 сағат бұрын
Mark waid leaving comics because trump won please cover
@DrLynch2009
@DrLynch2009 9 сағат бұрын
Please tell me is true and not a joke.
@InfamyOrDeath-__-
@InfamyOrDeath-__- 9 сағат бұрын
Really? Oh my God that’s hilarious.
@tejayschwartz7681
@tejayschwartz7681 9 сағат бұрын
What a jack weed 😂
@oatmat
@oatmat 8 сағат бұрын
I agree it is more New 52 than DC's Ultimate Universe, I wanted DC's Ultimate Universe to look and feel more like what Mark Waid was doing with Worlds Finest not this (but still enjoying the Absolute Universe so far). Also I wanted to have new characters for GL and Flash, like they did from the Golden Age, Silver Age and Modern Age
@InfamyOrDeath-__-
@InfamyOrDeath-__- 9 сағат бұрын
Yes getting rid of Martian Manhunter was one thing I really hated about this reboot. He was always my favourite member of the Justice League. And his abilities can give you loads of things you can do, like linking all their minds together and things like that.
@brandonscott4808
@brandonscott4808 3 сағат бұрын
When I look back at Geoff Johns, run on Justice League, he never should've added in Cyborg because he felt out of place on that team. But looking back at it, though, I think Batman and Superman could have been left off the roster and only be established as honorary members and give their spots to the Atom and Hawkman (or Hawkgirl/Hawkwoman), especially when Martian Manhunter pretty much fills the role for both the Worlds Finest.
@LibraGamesUnlimited
@LibraGamesUnlimited 8 сағат бұрын
Instead of trying to win over younger readers with 'new, younger edgy' versions of their characters how about, and here is a radical thought I know, creating NEW characters and maybe giving them actual quality writing and artwork.
@actiongeek1
@actiongeek1 8 сағат бұрын
Batman today = Mark Millar's Nemesis
@InfamyOrDeath-__-
@InfamyOrDeath-__- 9 сағат бұрын
It’s funny because if I was still reading comics the Martian Manhunter would be the comic I’d be most excited for.
@lukeclaudius951
@lukeclaudius951 9 сағат бұрын
Earth One is awesome...
@CMKarm
@CMKarm 3 сағат бұрын
I maintain that the old DC continuity prior to 2011 still exists in another universe from what's written about now. Someday old versions will meet the current versions and not recognize their counterparts.
@jaylucien669
@jaylucien669 2 сағат бұрын
It did, when it reemerged during Convergence back in 2015. That led to Post Crisis Supes returning as main Superman during Rebirth. Then they just kinda phased him out. Anyway, I hope you're right because Post Crisis DC was the best.
@EvandroACruz
@EvandroACruz Сағат бұрын
@@jaylucien669 Pre-Crisis DC was best.
@CMKarm
@CMKarm 40 минут бұрын
​@@jaylucien669 Convergence was a decent event. Nothing landmark that stands out in my mind, but I enjoyed some of the crossovers. I someday hope old versions of characters return.
@MaxP_88
@MaxP_88 4 сағат бұрын
Yes, but at least this time is happening in a parallel universe. And it's better thought out and planned. So there's that.
@jbbrolic
@jbbrolic 9 сағат бұрын
DC/WB has already created tremendous divide amongst it's own audience between people who like the Henry Cavill character disguised as Superman and people who actually like Superman... You would think they wouldn't lean into that, especially with how much they have riding on the new Superman movie that is supposedly actually going to have Superman in it.
@WeirdScienceComics
@WeirdScienceComics 4 сағат бұрын
One issue out for the first three books and everyone is already talking shit - i’m so glad people are giving it a chance! Btw, i’m pretty sure most of you aren’t even reading any DC so why the hell do you even care?!?
@niccoloproia3678
@niccoloproia3678 4 сағат бұрын
The fact that of all DC characters the one that benefited the most from the New52 was Aquaman will never stop to be funny for me
@KingBearmane
@KingBearmane 8 сағат бұрын
To be honest, I actually liked New 52 Superman and is relationship with Wonder Woman.
@dayneinsayne
@dayneinsayne 6 сағат бұрын
I did too. I mean Lois will always be Number 1 but the Wonder Woman romance wasn't too far out of left field.
@michaelmacleod6517
@michaelmacleod6517 6 сағат бұрын
Hopefully DC will bring them back together for the Absolute Universe.
@KingBearmane
@KingBearmane 5 сағат бұрын
@@michaelmacleod6517 they won't
@KingBearmane
@KingBearmane 5 сағат бұрын
@@dayneinsayne it was cool to thank of them as two literal gods as characters. Why wouldn't you put them together? I bet out of all the abilities Superman has, immortality is one people hardly explores. And when it comes to God romances it doesn't always has to be with a human as they are written now.
@thundergodcid960
@thundergodcid960 Сағат бұрын
@@KingBearmaneIt’s not the first time that Superman & Wonder Woman hooked up. In “Kingdom Come” since both Superman and Wonder Woman either don’t age or age far slower than a normal human, they more or less outlived their respective love interests, things happened and they eventually got together. And they had a son named Jon Kent(Hyperman). Same thing basically happened in the Dark Knight Returns universe, and they had a daughter named Lara.
@Lanterns_light
@Lanterns_light 5 сағат бұрын
It is INSANE that even Green Arrow has an entire ‘Arrow Family’ of 37 different archers…. LOL😅
@elijahbrown3551
@elijahbrown3551 Сағат бұрын
For real?
@pete7164
@pete7164 9 сағат бұрын
Absolute is actually a reboot, New 52 was a half assed soft reboot. No comparison. Ultimately, the novelty will wear off and it’ll be swept under the rug
@jaylucien669
@jaylucien669 2 сағат бұрын
It's not a reboot. It's an alternate. Like The Ultimate Universe.
@Abhinav-m4o
@Abhinav-m4o Сағат бұрын
It's not reboot It's elseworld
@waynetech10
@waynetech10 9 сағат бұрын
Absolute is another excuse for the bad writers they hired to do fanfiction versions of the DCU, because they couldn't write a decent story set in the established universe. I hated the fundamental changes of the New 52, how many characters were unrecognizable. For every halfway decent one New 52 book, there were five or so that were complete garbage, and consistently getting cancelled or on the verge of cancellation. Absolute and New 52 have some similarities, but I think they're bad in different ways.
@treymykel
@treymykel 9 сағат бұрын
So basically which we already said it and I already talked about I said so the absolute universe is basically the new 52 2.0 because the reason why DC failed with the new 52 is it came out of nowhere and it replaced the main continuity that nobody asks for and people been begging for them to go back to post crisis for years for some reason DC refuse but in the new absolute Universe and everybody's loving it and it's just like yeah because it's not messing with the main continuity That's why it's working for people because it's not messing with the main continuity it's not tied down by the main continuity and I felt like that's what the new 52 should have been it should have been the ultimate DC Universe in 2011 but you still had post crisis and I think what would have happened is DC would have had two successful ongoing universes if they had just did the new 52 as a alternate universe instead of saying oh it's the main continuity who who asked you for that cuz I didn't ask for that at all especially when there was no buildup to it.
@jonnjones8263
@jonnjones8263 9 сағат бұрын
They didn't go back to post-crisis because post-crisis didn't sell well. Thats WHY they had to reboot in the first place.
@WeirdScienceComics
@WeirdScienceComics 4 сағат бұрын
I loved the New 52
@EvandroACruz
@EvandroACruz Сағат бұрын
@@WeirdScienceComics N52 ruined DC forever. Was DC being like Marvel.
@norrisford1583
@norrisford1583 4 сағат бұрын
Read Absolute Superman today and thought that it reminded me of the New 52 Superman with the armor uniform. He's all mopey, soy, and emo. Then there was all the class warfare on Krypton. Blah. Can I get some escapism? Didn't care for the book. I dont think the Absolute universe will make it beyond a year. I'll give it a few more issues to see if Aaron has something.
@myretronation
@myretronation Сағат бұрын
You hit the nail on the head in regards to the original Ultimate Universe... and that was the main reason why Ultimate Spider-Man was so crazy successful back then I'm skipping these Absolute books.... but I feel that we will see the 19th issues of these titles... in fact, I think they will last around 3 years.
@vortechx7176
@vortechx7176 9 сағат бұрын
this is what the new 52 should have been to begin with. and yes the Absolute universe is the new 52. and no the new 52 did not out sell marvel at all.
@Spiderweb444
@Spiderweb444 8 сағат бұрын
The first issues were good. Lets see how this line holds after 12 months.
@notyouraverageharleyquinnstan
@notyouraverageharleyquinnstan 9 сағат бұрын
Screw the new 52.
@Deathwing2001
@Deathwing2001 8 сағат бұрын
I hated it
@notyouraverageharleyquinnstan
@notyouraverageharleyquinnstan 8 сағат бұрын
@@Deathwing2001 same
@WeirdScienceComics
@WeirdScienceComics 4 сағат бұрын
@@Deathwing2001i loved it!
@EvandroACruz
@EvandroACruz Сағат бұрын
Worst DC Era ever. I hated.
@notyouraverageharleyquinnstan
@notyouraverageharleyquinnstan Сағат бұрын
@@EvandroACruz 💯
@e.e.-tv1683
@e.e.-tv1683 5 сағат бұрын
I think Absolute Batman, Wonder Woman & Superman should last 12 issues. They should tie into an Absolute Justice League book that last between 6 - 12 issues before switching the focus back to the main continuity.
@LibraGamesUnlimited
@LibraGamesUnlimited 9 сағат бұрын
For me, and just for me, I would love to see them take the characters back to their roots, get rid of the multiverse, and establish one version of every character and a tight singular timeline. Just do that and if you want to do stuff outside that continuity just go back to Elseworld as an occasional release. In other words, what they did after the Crisis served them so well for years after.
@yougottrolled5799
@yougottrolled5799 7 сағат бұрын
The problem is they don't trust themselves to keep continuity intact.
@LibraGamesUnlimited
@LibraGamesUnlimited 6 сағат бұрын
@yougottrolled5799 I don't think most of the people in mainstream comics today know what the continuity is not want to bother finding out.
@yougottrolled5799
@yougottrolled5799 6 сағат бұрын
@LibraGamesUnlimited i dont blame them why bother reading this if you gotta read that then find out the writer destroyed this character and then you got a Multiverse reset.
@LibraGamesUnlimited
@LibraGamesUnlimited 6 сағат бұрын
@@yougottrolled5799 Yeah, wiser heads than them got rid of the DC multiverse for a reason.
@yougottrolled5799
@yougottrolled5799 6 сағат бұрын
@LibraGamesUnlimited I agree I don't hate the Multiverse because it did offer interesting stories like all star superman. Batman under the red hood, etc etc. But when you put too much focus that you forget continuity, then it's a problem. For example, dc and Marvel should make 2 universe, maybe called Earth 1 and 2, just examples. And have those two universes live action and animation and have those be the main universe when characters get a beginning middle and end. And treat the other universes as you would do in mmo rpg quests. You can do them, but it's not mandatory.
@GeekpinEnt
@GeekpinEnt 3 сағат бұрын
Yeah Marvel kicked out 108 titles between ongoing, mini and one shots. It was an insane time as a retailer.
@themultiversalmagpie7827
@themultiversalmagpie7827 9 сағат бұрын
I just bought Batman year one and I have to agree with you Wes, it’s probably my favorite of the Batman stories I’ve read tho I’m not as well read on Batman as I am on marvel I’m really enjoying it
@michaelmacleod6517
@michaelmacleod6517 6 сағат бұрын
Earth One was awesome. I wish DC continued with it
@totomen666
@totomen666 9 сағат бұрын
Absolute Universe Is Just New52 but worse, i love New52 and can't look at Absolute without urge to scream /lmao Boomers ruin creativity Wokies ruin creativity Edgelords ruin creativity Everything should be at balance to make reader be interested, but since media/DC bending a knee to favor one specific group it completely disregards others, makes plot be politically driven mess or child story.
@TheSnapdad
@TheSnapdad 3 сағат бұрын
In the category of run its course, Batman White Knight. What would work in my opinion is to expand World’s Finest universe which should strip away the bloated families.
@Mah_Negrumpz
@Mah_Negrumpz 2 сағат бұрын
You realize superman and batman are coming up on 100 years old. Soon they will be open for anyone to do their own take. DC needs to make more versions now to keep the trademarks active
@TapCat
@TapCat 3 сағат бұрын
The only Marvel Ultimate book that really lasted was Spider-Man. Why? Because Bendis took the essentials of Spider-Man and used them to tell entertaining new stories. The specific events unfolded differently but it still FELT like Peter. Why does no one else follow that approach? These characters don't need to be reinvented and doing so will only weaken their appeal over time.
@InfamyOrDeath-__-
@InfamyOrDeath-__- 10 сағат бұрын
I liked a bunch of comics from the New 52 haha.
@GeekpinEnt
@GeekpinEnt 3 сағат бұрын
The new 52 happened cuz dc almost lost the rights to superman against the seigel family. So they "quietly" rebooted the dcu to place their superman who wasn't fully the superman most of us grew up with. DC & the seigel family came to some kind of agreement and 3 years later convergence brought in post crisis superman & lois lane into the new 52 universe and new 52 superman & lois were eventually killed off. Absolute reminds me of a mix between the silver age era of Earth 1 & 2 and Marvel's ultimate universe.
@MWP12
@MWP12 4 сағат бұрын
This is all to do with getting around copywrite problems. Which was also what New 52 was to an extent also. These arent meant to be the characters we know but bastardised versions of them that DC doesnt have to pay anyone for.
@TevyaSmolka
@TevyaSmolka 9 сағат бұрын
Honestly the absolute dc universe should’ve came out a long time ago, because the absolute dc universe if you really think about it is technically a new ultimate universe but for dc comics themselves but that’s just my opinion.
@DarthDread-oh2ne
@DarthDread-oh2ne 8 сағат бұрын
Hey man. I voted for you in the presidential election.
@TevyaSmolka
@TevyaSmolka 7 сағат бұрын
@@DarthDread-oh2ne nice and same here as well
@jaylucien669
@jaylucien669 2 сағат бұрын
Absolute Superman #1 is fantastic!
@brandonscott4808
@brandonscott4808 3 сағат бұрын
The Absolute Universe is no different from the New 52 Universe as both of them still kept pushing the concept of character deconstruction and ruining characters. Now, i didn't have that much of an issue with DC rebooting back then. The problem was that the company did it at the wrong time and did not let writers properly conclude their stories prior to Flashpoint.
@WarriorsforInfoTV
@WarriorsforInfoTV 3 сағат бұрын
Give me Absolute Lobo !! Take my money!! The last Bastiach!
@ComicBookMuscle
@ComicBookMuscle 7 сағат бұрын
Some of it reminds me of Dan Jurgens/ DC’s lesser appreciated Tangent Comics (see Green Lantern Dark). I am ok with Absolute as long as they commit to creating fun and engaging stories, but it’s starting to look like a place holder for whatever they decide to do in 6 to 12 months.
@ghostknight1865
@ghostknight1865 8 сағат бұрын
The "going bigger" part is just building to the Absolute Justice League, so they want the main characters to have their own books. As for the rest, I'd actually welcome if the Absolute Universe eventually ended some day. Focus on quality, give it a few years of amazing stories, then wrap it up in a way that feels rewarding and not a waste of time.
@yougottrolled5799
@yougottrolled5799 7 сағат бұрын
12:06 facts, people said the same thing when they saw the Justice League movie gods and monsters. Oh, this what they justice league should be.
@DavidSmith-dp6vb
@DavidSmith-dp6vb 7 сағат бұрын
This is my problem with separate universe lines: why not just put the effort and energy into the regular universe? The first Ultimate Universe early on is a bit of an outlier, due to peak BMB and the genius of Mark Millar.
@WeirdScienceComics
@WeirdScienceComics 4 сағат бұрын
Most of the all-in books have started out pretty good so they are putting effort in the regular universe
@cliffwoodbury5319
@cliffwoodbury5319 5 сағат бұрын
there are enough talented comic book writers for Marvel and D.C. Comics to both have multiple universe with quality but they don't treat the artist in a way to make them stay. Much of this has to do with pay (all the various ways to pay an artist) but I'm sure there are other factors. I think D.C.'s problem is all their other reboots should have been alternate universes and that indesicivness might bite them in their butts.
@jonnjones8263
@jonnjones8263 9 сағат бұрын
If we actually got Superman x Wonder Woman back this might be peak fiction.
@kaylemain2006
@kaylemain2006 3 сағат бұрын
nah... the new 52 replaced the mainline, this is just a side thing like the ultimate universe which is in my opinion the best way to explore new ideas with these characters. The good ideas can then feed back into the mainline, just like it did with the Ultimate universe. Also in my opinion the biggest issue with the new 52 was the absolute lack of planning and coordination, and the great disparity in quality between the books. You could get some good stuff like action comics, batman or animal man, and then garbage like mister terrific. The absolute universe seems to be focusing on just a few books at a time, making it more manageable. I am not a fan yet but that might change.
@patrickperry6735
@patrickperry6735 9 сағат бұрын
I would agree with this critique of absolute versions of DC characters except that this is not like New 52 in where the characters were replaced with modern versions of the classics. the Absolute trinity is just an alternate to the characters that simultaneously still exist. You still have real superman batman and wonder woman. Stop crying.
@JohnSmith-zi6xz
@JohnSmith-zi6xz 8 сағат бұрын
It's the same problem that Marvel faced with Miles Morales once the Ultimates line wound down. Miles is generally well liked, but since he was an alternate Spiderman, he is doomed forever be in Peter Parkers shadow. The fact that Peter Parker is also popular means that he can't simply be phased out for Miles. Coexisting has only caused problems as Miles is functionally redundant as long as Peter is around. These new "Absolute" versions of characters are going to face the same issue down the road. DC will either have to abandon these new iterations or they will have to rework them which will cause heartburn for fans of both versions.
@WarBrer247
@WarBrer247 7 сағат бұрын
The sales haven’t proved he’s “liked” beyond an incredibly small core.
@aurahoneydew9607
@aurahoneydew9607 7 сағат бұрын
To be fair Batman and Green Lantern pockets were pretty much untouched they kinda just had things added to them. Maybe year one but lets face it that story barely fits now that Batman has a foot in the 22nd century and the DC universe Gotham has the extraordinary and strange popped up way before the waynes and even then superheroes being a thing since the 40s in universe.
@john-zi9su
@john-zi9su 9 сағат бұрын
New 52 was one of the better DC eras at least I thought it was. I’m giving Absolute Batman another try and picking up Absolute Superman even though Jason Aaron is attached to it.
@treymykel
@treymykel 9 сағат бұрын
Tell me because they kept going with the new 52 and they didn't give up because they erased their main continuity for it Yeah it was the best era that DC had up till then because they literally had no choice to go all in with it whether we liked it or not and a lot of people didn't like it and that's why DC hasn't been able to recover from it ever since because it was a dumb thing to do
@john-zi9su
@john-zi9su 8 сағат бұрын
Ok take a deep breath and again I said “at least I thought it was good.” It’s cool if you didn’t like it. But it’s meant to imply I am not speaking for everyone.
@AL-ws5yi
@AL-ws5yi 4 сағат бұрын
I never read the new 52. I knew people who really hated it though. If this is similar it doesn’t bode well.
@threex0xthree
@threex0xthree 9 сағат бұрын
0:33 THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING TOO😮🤠!
@bigtomboye
@bigtomboye 8 сағат бұрын
Yes, yes, yes, yes!!! ✅️ 📯! Over and over, this nails it 🔨
@kamenrangerzeo8251
@kamenrangerzeo8251 9 сағат бұрын
Even if you believe that the absolute universe is the new 52 reborn I'm still okay with it this is kind of like a combination between the Ultimate Universe from Marvel and The New 52 from DC. The absolute version of Batman reminds me of Ben Affleck with a Spider-Man element added on to it, you have absolute Superman who reminds me of Henry Cavill and how the way that things are going for the new Man of Steel looks to be a combination of both new 52 style and the Henry Cavill Superman as one, and Wonder Woman is embracing her Goddess of War Heritage where she's acting like Kratos from the video game, and I'll be honest if play somehow end up making it where she has to fight the Olympians to restore her Amazon sisters and get revenge on what they had done to her family I say yes this is indeed like Kratos.
@1971thedoctor
@1971thedoctor 34 минут бұрын
The new 52 and the first run of the Ultimate universe both had a great start but I lost interest in most of the titles. I hope the Absolute Universe has a good run, I’ve enjoyed all three comics they put out so far, Wonder Woman was the biggest surprise for me and I like all the things happening in the Superman and Batman series. I just hope they can stick the landing
@nathanchildress9372
@nathanchildress9372 7 сағат бұрын
I think new 52 is better than this absolute universe
@namelesswhocares8648
@namelesswhocares8648 6 сағат бұрын
And as usual , they are not creating any new characters. Because they still refuse to give them their due and a fair wage. You know, the reason image comics was created. And this has been going on since the days of elseworlds and Gotham by gaslight. It's always a new take on existing characters. I'll pass
@SarcasticEnchilada
@SarcasticEnchilada 7 сағат бұрын
Idk man what’s the point in being cynical about everything, I’m just enjoying the ride right now. The absolute universe is a fun little side experiment that they’re doing and I’m interested enough to buy in. The mainline books have also looked promising, like Batman & Superman
@gorgeousgeorge5173
@gorgeousgeorge5173 9 сағат бұрын
This is a lot better than New 52.
@mayotango1317
@mayotango1317 9 сағат бұрын
No really, this feel more hope and heroic.
@treymykel
@treymykel 9 сағат бұрын
How does this feel more hopeful and heroic Batman got a battle ax Superman laser beating people like it ain't nobody's business and Wonder Woman is literally the princess of hell but what what heroic are we talking about compared to what lol
@mayotango1317
@mayotango1317 9 сағат бұрын
@treymykel And still they are more heroes that the New52 jerks.
@KidxChaos01
@KidxChaos01 4 сағат бұрын
Brother pleaseeeee stoppppp with the damn 2000s DC Logo 😭 nah I keep talking shit but love your videos man keep it up 👍
@hottakestuesdays7450
@hottakestuesdays7450 Сағат бұрын
It's not in main continuity.
@PridedTomb55
@PridedTomb55 9 сағат бұрын
5:08 that's how I feel about absolute superman like I just read it and I'm focused more on the dumb changes they made to him opposed to the story and when I'm reading the story I definitely don't want to see Superman fighting a team of peacemakers. He got a suit and it's a living armor suit and I'm like wth it just doesn't stick with me. My ranking is absolute Batman, Wonder Woman then Superman. Absolute Superman to me feels so out of character that I'm not drawn to the new changes of him well to be honest I'm not drawn to any of the new changes of any of the characters it's radical, dumb and stupid
@Ando1428
@Ando1428 5 сағат бұрын
It is the new 52. They just dont need to stick to the same conventions. I think it can work because their not wonder woman and batman and such. Yes they call themselves it but so did dc gods and monsters. Where they might go is up to the writer.
@DrDetfink
@DrDetfink 8 сағат бұрын
I think it’s a little smarter than new 52. It’s an attempt to make heroes more gritty, working class. At least the main three books are off to a decent start. Can’t say anything about Absolute GL, Flash, Martian Manhunter yet. How long will it last? Maybe 2-3 yrs tops.
@elijahbrown3551
@elijahbrown3551 8 сағат бұрын
Gritty and more working class sounds like The New 52.
@DrDetfink
@DrDetfink 5 сағат бұрын
@ boring and more of the same is new 52 right? Yup. Cause Y’know Harley part of the Suicide Squad fits to lighten up the humor. Clark is a blogger. And Johns GL series had the sexy Star Sapphires. Never see that again.
@chuckgibson3973
@chuckgibson3973 21 минут бұрын
This is the same problem as when they try to race or gender swap a character--- you've 'personality swapped' and 'circumstance swapped' them instead. I'll make the same suggestion I normally make --- if you like those personalities and circumstances and want to do new stories. create a whole new character and do those things with your NEW character. Keep Batman out of it! Just like the Joker movie --- you want the name recognition and the enthusiasm that comes with it --- but you want to toss out everything about the character that GENERATES that enthusiasm you're chasing. Doesn't work. Won't work. Knock the shit off! If you haven't gotten it to work over the last decade and a half.... I'm sorry, but it's bad and people don't want it.
@larrydoherty7403
@larrydoherty7403 9 сағат бұрын
This is a much needed entry point for new DC readers that is connected to regular DC continuity. Smart.
@treymykel
@treymykel 9 сағат бұрын
But it's not smart because both universes are screwed up and again the continuity is messed up there was no lead up for the absolute universe besides absolute power but nobody was reading absolute power so how was it a good idea honestly like if nobody was reading absolute power how was it a good idea for absolute universe you know Mike West said we have been doing brand new versions of Batman Superman and Wonder Woman for the past 8 years and ain't nothing stick and he's right this isn't going to last that long everybody's going to talk about how great it is for what maybe the first three months and then after that the sales are dip and then they'll give up on it after they're absolute event and then we'll never really talk about the absolute universe again.
@larrydoherty7403
@larrydoherty7403 9 сағат бұрын
It’s a good start, & it’s working. TON of new faces in shops, ( large number 1st time buyers discovering via TicToc)
@cicolasnage5684
@cicolasnage5684 9 сағат бұрын
@@treymykelstop it already with the parroting, you’ve made no valid points other than second hand subjective information. Regardless if anybody read it or not there was a lead up to absolute power with the All in special. Whether you like it not the absolute line so far has had huge sales, and reinvigorated interest in comics from old readers to new readers.
@misternegative4918
@misternegative4918 8 сағат бұрын
@@treymykelAbsolute Power is the one event thats happened recently that was very obviously led up to for quite awhile.
@WarBrer247
@WarBrer247 8 сағат бұрын
Lol
@WeirdScienceComics
@WeirdScienceComics 4 сағат бұрын
I don’t care what all you haters say - i like it!
@EvandroACruz
@EvandroACruz Сағат бұрын
There's no way to fix the damage that the N52 did to DCU. That shit ruined DC forever and until these days they don't fully recovered that. DC Rebirth was the only chance and they wasted. Continuity was screwed so badly in post Flashpoint that I feel that nothing I read truly matters. One of biggest reasons of way I don't buy a single DC book in years. Absolute universe it's just the N52 made in another way. Dark and Edge bullshit only. DC just refuse to learn with your past mistakes.
@themultiversalmagpie7827
@themultiversalmagpie7827 9 сағат бұрын
I liked absolute Wonder Woman but I think it should’ve been a 0 issue
@joshuatabor8755
@joshuatabor8755 6 сағат бұрын
i was gone so long form comics I loved allot of New 52. Alot started sucking and then I loved Rebirth. Then they killed that. I stopped.
@TheToyOdyssey
@TheToyOdyssey 2 сағат бұрын
Yup, that’s why won’t read any of it. I am reading All In and so far so good.
@ComicBookBob
@ComicBookBob 4 сағат бұрын
Absolute U has that "Communism will work, it just hasn't been done right yet." feeling. I'm kidding guys, put the pitchforks away.
@mikehunt1924
@mikehunt1924 Сағат бұрын
All DC has now is pointless revamps every few years. They've lost the ability to tell good stories with the characters they already have.
@Abhinav-m4o
@Abhinav-m4o Сағат бұрын
But wasn't new 52 a reboot
@DarthDread-oh2ne
@DarthDread-oh2ne 9 сағат бұрын
I have a question for Here: Who is your top five Batman love interests ?
@threex0xthree
@threex0xthree 9 сағат бұрын
I know you didn't ask me, but here's mine: 1. Selina Kyle 2. Diana Prince (come on, let's be for real) 3. Vicki Vale 4. Andrea Beaumont 5. Talia Al Ghul
@DarthDread-oh2ne
@DarthDread-oh2ne 9 сағат бұрын
That’s okay man. I love to have discussions about comic books. What do you think silver St. Cloud ?
@threex0xthree
@threex0xthree 9 сағат бұрын
@DarthDread-oh2ne honestly I can't determine where she stays because I've not really read any Batman issue where she shows up or maybe a few B:TAS episodes (if there were any) to make a clear decision.
@Ando1428
@Ando1428 5 сағат бұрын
No thats not true. The first ultimate universe stayed radically different and lasted years. Dc has the ability to do that as well. Especially if they bring in not just a few but all of the villains over. Giving dedicated arcs to even a screw up like condiment king. Hes likely been waiting for a decent contamination story line if they play it right.
@ellesse3862
@ellesse3862 9 сағат бұрын
I wouldn't have green lit this project, its a mini, a one shot Elseworlds at best. The fact we've had several new take lines that never last and as you say 'edgy' does indeed have a limited shelf life, doesn't inspire me, and I'd rather just have the heroes as they were .. probably why the wealth and diversity of DC Finest is more appealing to me.
@Tooznoze
@Tooznoze 5 сағат бұрын
I wasn't impressed with Batman. I decided to drop it already.
@pronouncedgooglewithat
@pronouncedgooglewithat 4 сағат бұрын
I’m probably in the minority, but I enjoyed New 52.
@DarthDread-oh2ne
@DarthDread-oh2ne 9 сағат бұрын
This is just earth-1 again .
@incubustimelord5947
@incubustimelord5947 5 сағат бұрын
The DC Comics New 52 Reboot fucking sucked. In fact, everything after Zero Hour: Crisis In Time has consistently sucked. DC stopped being good after 1994. Once 1995 rolled in, DC started getting worse and worse.
@sebastianhoward3304
@sebastianhoward3304 Сағат бұрын
I liked new 52
@SpiritOfParadox
@SpiritOfParadox 9 сағат бұрын
That's exactly why I like this DC universe.
@victoriapagac
@victoriapagac 6 сағат бұрын
ive been ewading wonder woman since second series around issue 40 no absoulte wonfer woman for me i also hated new 52 ww but read it anyhow
@KardboardKenny
@KardboardKenny 9 сағат бұрын
for me, The Cult is the best Batman story.
@Jaymalkin980
@Jaymalkin980 7 сағат бұрын
Comics will be worse then ever after today
@slavicone1355
@slavicone1355 5 сағат бұрын
So many comic pros melting down over Trump's victory.
@lebrongalvez
@lebrongalvez 5 сағат бұрын
I liked Absolute Wonder Woman. It’s pretty well written (surprisingly) and the art has its own style that fits Diana and her world perfectly. I may be in the minority but I did enjoy it a lot.
@milestrombley1466
@milestrombley1466 7 сағат бұрын
Just a rinse and repeat, but edger.
@ComicsForLife2023
@ComicsForLife2023 6 сағат бұрын
Dude let go of your gripe with NEW 52. We get it. You didn’t like it. Absolute Batman was fairly promising but hardly great. Absolute WW is pure, unmitigated dog shit! I just read Absolute Superman a couple of hours ago. It’s saving Grace is Rafa Sandoval but as far as the writing is concerned, it’s sewer waste! Self inserted, activism writing from a man that is hell bent on shitting on any classic traditional character he’s allowed to vomit on.
@DrLynch2009
@DrLynch2009 9 сағат бұрын
Call it. HA HA HA HA
@matthewgaudet4064
@matthewgaudet4064 8 сағат бұрын
New 52? what about rebirth. This is like the third rebranding.
@Ghostplanetmaxinc1.0-n6b
@Ghostplanetmaxinc1.0-n6b Сағат бұрын
Absolute garbage and nilelistic trash just like the new 52 Snyder films
@Ghostplanetmaxinc1.0-n6b
@Ghostplanetmaxinc1.0-n6b Сағат бұрын
Nilelistic trash not batman not superman not Wonder woman
@Ghostplanetmaxinc1.0-n6b
@Ghostplanetmaxinc1.0-n6b Сағат бұрын
Frank Miller and Alan Moore ruined dc with there nilelistic cynical shit
@Ghostplanetmaxinc1.0-n6b
@Ghostplanetmaxinc1.0-n6b 57 минут бұрын
Fake ultimate universe that's digshit and everyone has been con into shilling for
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